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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Second hour of Clay ad Buck starts right now. Thanks

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Speaker 2: for being here with us. Everybody all across the country.

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Speaker 2: We have now with US Governor Kevin Stitt of Oklahoma.

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Speaker 2: Governor stant we know you're super busy trying to do

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Speaker 2: the best possible for the good people of your state.

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Speaker 3: You just signed earlier this week.

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Speaker 2: A bill that well, there's the way that the Democrat

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Speaker 2: media is writing about it. It basically prevents children from

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Speaker 2: having gender mutilation surgery done to them by going after doctors.

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Speaker 2: Can you can you just tell us what's it contained

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Speaker 2: in the bill and what the reaction has been.

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Speaker 4: Well, listen in Oklahoma. I mean it's common sense. I've

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Speaker 4: had so many people just thank me, call me, text me. Governor,

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Speaker 4: thank you for perfecting our young people. Listen. All it

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Speaker 4: says is we're not going to let mutilation gender surgery

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Speaker 4: harmful surgeries happened to minors. That's all it says. And

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Speaker 4: I've been public to say, listen, if you want to

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Speaker 4: do an elective surgery after you're an adult, and you're

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Speaker 4: gonna pay for it, go knock yourself out. But when

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna use taxpayer dollars, and we're certainly not gonna

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Speaker 4: let it happen to our youth. We've got to protect them.

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Speaker 4: They can't, you know, buy alcohol or cigarettes or get tattoos,

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Speaker 4: and and then we think it's okay to let them

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Speaker 4: mutilate their bodies like that. That's just it's nonsense. It's

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Speaker 4: not going to happen in Oklahoma.

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Speaker 2: Kevin and governors, did I just have to ask you

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Speaker 2: as well our our because I haven't seen this in

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Speaker 2: the in the writeups of it. What kind of opposition

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Speaker 2: from Oklahoma state Democrats did this bill receive or did

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Speaker 2: some of them.

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Speaker 3: Go along with it?

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Speaker 4: You know, I can't, I'll have to pull up the

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Speaker 4: exact vote camp. But yeah, they all vote in a block.

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Speaker 4: They all vote against anything that's common sense in my opinion.

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Speaker 1: And so they did.

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Speaker 2: They voted against this. They did not go That's all

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Speaker 2: we really need to know. They went along with They're

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Speaker 2: sorry they would not go along with this.

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Speaker 4: That is correct. That is correct.

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Speaker 1: Governor appreciates you coming on year round and both of

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Speaker 1: our ages. And would you have ever believed I was

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Speaker 1: tweeting about this recently that we would be in a

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Speaker 1: place where kids would be having transgender surgeries, which is wild.

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Speaker 1: And also simultaneously that if you say men who identify

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Speaker 1: you mentioned Democrats voting in bloc. I believe only RFK

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Speaker 1: junior of someone who affiliates with the Democrat party, has

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Speaker 1: even been willing to say women who identify men who

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Speaker 1: I mean, where do we go from here? Because it

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Speaker 1: seems like the legislation that you signed is very important,

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Speaker 1: but we're truly to a place where insanity is the

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Speaker 1: preferred position of one of the major political parties out

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Speaker 1: there when it comes to just simple things like athletics.

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Speaker 4: Well you said it so well. I mean I signed

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Speaker 4: that bill. We said, listen, you know, going to play

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Speaker 4: boys for sports, girls gonna play in girls. I had

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Speaker 4: the Washington Post interview me and they were like, Governor,

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Speaker 4: you signed this controversial bill, and I said, well, hang on,

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Speaker 4: hang on, it's not really controversial in Oklahoma. We know

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Speaker 4: the difference between boys and girls, and it's fundamentally unfair

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Speaker 4: or playing volleyball or a or a college athlete track

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Speaker 4: star at the University of Oklahoma. UH, to compete against

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Speaker 4: biological males. And that's just so common sense to us.

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Speaker 4: We we think that the left has lost their mind,

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Speaker 4: and I'm telling you it is. It is pausing the

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Speaker 4: a lot of different normally democratic voters to swing our

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Speaker 4: direction because they know how crazy this is. And uh,

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Speaker 4: and they have daughter in fourth grade that they want

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Speaker 4: to protect, and and and so. To us, it's just

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Speaker 4: common sense. And we have to have more people standing

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Speaker 4: up just calling us, calling, just saying listen, this is

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Speaker 4: this is right and wrong.

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Speaker 2: We're speaking to Governor Kevin Stitt of Oklahoma. Governor, you know,

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Speaker 2: just last week the Justice the Biden Justice Department, announced

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Speaker 2: that they are suing the state of Tennessee for its

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Speaker 2: law that protects children from transgender surgeries, which I believe

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Speaker 2: is quite similar to what you just signed this week.

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Speaker 2: So are you prepared for and are you expecting that

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Speaker 2: the Biden DOJ is going to bring suit against your state?

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Speaker 3: And what would that mean?

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, the federal government sometimes tries to, you know,

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Speaker 4: federal government can you know, stop funding roads and bridges

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Speaker 4: Health and our healthcare authority the way we run our medicaid,

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Speaker 4: because you know, we believe in the Tenth Amendment, which

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Speaker 4: just basically says that what's not specifically given to the

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Speaker 4: federal government belongs to the state or the people, the

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Speaker 4: states or the people, and so we're so much closer.

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Speaker 4: And let me the first to tell you that I

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Speaker 4: represent four million Oklahomas and we're going to do things

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Speaker 4: different than they do in California, or they might do

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Speaker 4: it in Texas or Illinois. And that's the great thing

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Speaker 4: about our countries. There's fifty different examples of democracies, laboratories

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Speaker 4: of democracies, and so we're going to do things differently.

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Speaker 4: We believe in low taxes, we believe in smaller government,

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Speaker 4: we believe in freedoms. I refuse to shut my state

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Speaker 4: down during COVID and now you're seeing people move to Oklahoma.

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Speaker 4: We're top ten, right now and people move into our

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Speaker 4: state because of our freedom, pro business policies, and traditional

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Speaker 4: family values. We believe in this Governor.

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Speaker 1: You're obviously a neighbor of Texas. And I'm wondering as

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Speaker 1: Title forty two is set to be repealed, whether you

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Speaker 1: guys in Oklahoma are having to prepare for a potential

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Speaker 1: influx of illegal immigration, and or what you think governors

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Speaker 1: should be able to do to respond to what's happening

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Speaker 1: at our southern border, which Joe Biden seems quite content

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Speaker 1: to just leave wide open.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know that's something that the Republican Governors Association

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Speaker 4: we're kind of in lockstep on that. I went down

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Speaker 4: with Governor Abbott. There was ten governors that went to

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Speaker 4: the border. We put a ten point plan together. We

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Speaker 4: need to go back to the Trump policies of remaining

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Speaker 4: in Mexico. We have to have a strong border. It's

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Speaker 4: just beyond me. It's mind boggling. It makes no common

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Speaker 4: sense to not say we have to know who's coming

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Speaker 4: through our southern border. You've got the fetanol issue that

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Speaker 4: that's really what is affecting my state and bordering states

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Speaker 4: to Texas. And because we know that's flooding in through

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Speaker 4: the southern border. At the same sense, once we have

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Speaker 4: So uh again, it all flows together. Ronald Reagan had

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Speaker 4: an immigration policy. We need to be talking about that,

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Speaker 4: But we can't even have that conversation because you're just

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Speaker 4: gonna be uh, you're just gonna the mass migrace is

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Speaker 4: going to continue to flood in if you don't have

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Speaker 4: a strong border. So again, I just can't tell you

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Speaker 4: how strongly we should be, you know, defending our border,

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Speaker 4: making sure we know who's coming into our country and

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Speaker 4: uh and what whatever it is putting more border. Oh,

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Speaker 4: thanks so much, guys.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk to you soon, yes, sir.

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Speaker 2: You know Clay Uh, it's it's such an interesting stat

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Speaker 2: that he brings up about Oaklall.

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Speaker 3: You know, Oklahoma's not a big state, so for it.

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Speaker 2: It's one thing when Florida and Texas are getting a

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Speaker 3: There are places that for a long.

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Speaker 2: Time have been uh, you know, there's reasons why people

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Speaker 2: would go seek them out. You know, it's interesting in Oklahoma,

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Speaker 2: I think just because of policy. Sure, there's economic opportunity

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Speaker 2: in terms of home and quality of life, cost of living,

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Speaker 2: all that stuff. But these red states are running up

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Speaker 2: the scoreboard, and the redder they are increasingly, we see,

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Speaker 2: the more people are just like, sign me up. I

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Speaker 2: got to go to this place. I've got to figure

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Speaker 2: You know, one thing that I was curious about, and

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Speaker 2: I'm wondering if maybe we could get the Governor of

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Speaker 2: us at some point and explain this. It seems to

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Speaker 2: me that we're at a point where with the we

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Speaker 2: mentioned the Trends Shooter Manifesto, it has been delayed once again.

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Speaker 2: Could could could Governor Lee just say, I mean, he's

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Speaker 2: the head of law enforcement in the state of Tennessee,

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Speaker 2: that they need to release this thing.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: I feel like if it were Oklahoma, they would have

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Speaker 2: released it. I feel like there's a little bit of

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Speaker 2: it was the FBI, the FEDS, and now it's Nashville

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Speaker 2: in and say the people of this state have a

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Speaker 2: motivation here was and what happened.

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Speaker 1: No, I think you're right. And for those of you

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Speaker 1: depending litigation, they are not going to be able to

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Speaker 1: release the Trends Manifesto. Now, the manifesto, as I understand it,

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Speaker 1: buck is not one document. This transshooter had a bunch

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Speaker 1: But I've been told, and I said it on the show,

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Speaker 1: releasing it. And now we're sitting thirty seven days out

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Speaker 1: and it still hasn't happened, and now I question whether

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Speaker 2: Really, I think that they could have handled this very

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Speaker 2: public safety issue. It's a public it's an issue of

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Speaker 2: public need to know. We would have said an intelligence community, right,

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Speaker 2: why did this person do what she did? Now, if

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Speaker 2: it's just that she's a complete, you know, psychopathic lunatic

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Speaker 2: and there's nothing else that anyone should be aware of

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Speaker 2: political motivations of some kind, then they should say that.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 2: They could tell us, look, we've scrubbed all the information

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Speaker 2: we have and here is our honest, best assessment of motivation.

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Speaker 2: And that would at least now, I think, still eventually

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Speaker 2: you have to release the manifesto. But remember they won't

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Speaker 2: tell us motivation at all. Nothing We've heard nothing about this.

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Speaker 2: They won't tell us motivation, and they won't release the

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Speaker 2: source material. That's what makes it feel so much like

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Speaker 2: a cover up. Now you could say, well, Buck, they

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Speaker 2: You've got people who just want to get the training

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Speaker 2: Maybe there's an armed teacher, I don't know who it

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Speaker 1: That's what I have been told is that her decision

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Speaker 1: The Nashville police, to their credit, responded heroically to this shooter.

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Speaker 1: And I think every citizen of now Ashville, and I'm

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Speaker 2: If if there was a change if she's a terrorist, okay,

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Speaker 2: By the way, when I was in the CIA and

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Speaker 3: The jihattists, there's all. There's all kinds of crazy.

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Speaker 2: They're still thinking about how they can kill maximum number

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Speaker 3: They're crazy, but they're still trying.

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Speaker 2: To there's a logically they're correct, they're trying to be

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Speaker 1: And I again, if this person had been a dranged

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Speaker 3: Voices of sanity in an insane world, Glade Travis said,

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Speaker 1: We're talking about the Nashville Police Department saying they will

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Speaker 1: not release this manifesto. And Harold in Huntington, Tennessee, when

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Speaker 8: It's why why would the governor give give the Justin

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, this is a really good point

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Speaker 1: There is the.

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Speaker 2: Possibility, Clay, that the Tennessee State Legislature we're sitting here

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is really important. I think the Tennessee Legislature,

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Speaker 2: And I think it goes deeper than that. Two in

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Speaker 2: on my sentencing from the gun free zone is gonna

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Speaker 2: make me think twice.

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Speaker 3: It is an abjectly moronic policy.

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Speaker 1: It's basically waving to any shooter there's going to be

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Speaker 1: almost no guns to combat you here.

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Speaker 2: What it does is, and I can think about this

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Speaker 2: from a counter terrorism analysis standpoint, it takes what is

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Speaker 2: always going to be a soft target. Let's let's understand

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Speaker 2: that a school is you know, school is not a

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Speaker 2: military facility, right, and it's not going to be. But

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Speaker 2: it takes what is a somewhat soft target and makes

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Speaker 2: it the softest target possible, meaning it makes it a

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Speaker 2: situation where a mass shooter can reliably act on the

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Speaker 2: belief that anyone else good people who obey laws are

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Speaker 2: defenseless in this facility. So you can go in there

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Speaker 2: knowing that until law enforcement arrives on the scene, you

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Speaker 2: are not going to have any real, you know, any

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Speaker 2: real opposition that can bring force to bear to end

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Speaker 2: the threat, to neutralize that threat. Now, decades of gun

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Speaker 2: free school zones haven't stopped any shootings, as we know.

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Speaker 2: And occasionally someone who's you know, going to go sporting,

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Speaker 2: clay shooting or something after school that someone sees a

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Speaker 2: twelve gage shotgun in the back of the pickup truck

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Speaker 2: and it's, oh my gosh, gun free zone, and then

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Speaker 2: it's does this person get locked up?

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Speaker 3: All this panic. There are people listening to this right now.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you used to go to schools before this

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Speaker 2: became a federal It was a federal law, federal issue.

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Speaker 3: They've made this.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure they brought guns in their truck or in

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Speaker 2: their car to school in the parking lot to go

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Speaker 2: shooting afterwards.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 2: I mean back in the back in the seventies, back

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Speaker 2: in the sixties, this was a thing nobody was I've.

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Speaker 1: Talked to people who were going to schools that had

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Speaker 1: shooting teams and they would actually take their rifles to

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Speaker 1: the school so that they could go out on the

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Speaker 1: shooting team after school for practice, which is which is

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Speaker 1: kind of emblematic. Guess what, there weren't any school shootings then.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is this is so important, yone to

478
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Speaker 2: understand the people who shriek and you know, rage and

479
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Speaker 2: shout venom at anyone who thinks that arming and allowing

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Speaker 2: teachers to be armed is the way we should say it.

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Speaker 2: Allowing teachers to conceal carry, advocating for more armed security

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Speaker 2: at schools, advocating for a program to take veterans who

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Speaker 2: we train to use firearms to be protecting schools in places,

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Speaker 2: and you know, of course if the veteran can be

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Speaker 2: protecting the school, and also you know, it's another presence

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Speaker 2: often going to be a male presence on campus to

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Speaker 2: help out with other things and be a role model

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Speaker 2: for the kids. And you know, there's there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of stuff that could come to this. The people, though,

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Speaker 2: who sneer at those ideas are never going to want

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Speaker 2: to hear that not only are they not sound in

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Speaker 2: terms of policy, but their lunacy in terms of.

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Speaker 3: The gun free school zones. And you know, we have

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Speaker 3: to take all.

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Speaker 2: The guns out of all the law buying people's hands

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Speaker 2: may have made schools left safe and resulted in more

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Speaker 2: casualties of adults and students in these schools. They're just

498
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Speaker 2: never going to want to accept that, so there's a

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Speaker 2: big psychological impact they're trying to avoid.

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Speaker 1: We'll open up your phone lines because I'd like to

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Speaker 1: hear calls if we're missing anything. Eight hundred two A

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Speaker 1: two two eight A two. But buck, isn't it the

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Speaker 1: most easy and straightforward an important thing for the Tennessee

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Speaker 1: legislature to do. Both the House and the Senate just

505
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Speaker 1: say we can't really look at red flag laws and

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Speaker 1: potentially changing the law when the reason we're meeting is

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Speaker 1: this school shooting and we're not able to see what

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Speaker 1: the motivations for this shooter actually were.

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Speaker 3: Red red flag laws aren't going to work, folks. F

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Speaker 3: laws aren't going to get they are part of it.

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Speaker 2: To red flag laws, I will say, are well intentioned

512
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Speaker 2: and theoretically could possibly maybe under certain circumstances work, but

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Speaker 2: you know that you're going to miss you know, ninety

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Speaker 2: nine out of one hundred of these instances, I think,

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Speaker 2: just because to try to catch somebody in.

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Speaker 3: And maybe it's maybe not.

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Speaker 2: I'm more open to the idea of the red flag

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Speaker 2: laws if very clear on what the judicial oversight isn't it.

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Speaker 2: But you know, it gets tough. The implement of this

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Speaker 2: is where it all falls apart.

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Speaker 1: Well, to me, you could balance red flag laws with

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Speaker 1: adding more security at schools if the goal is to

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Speaker 1: respond to this shooting and try to make it less likely,

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Speaker 1: which I would imagine everybody's goal is that.

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Speaker 3: And the problem is they'll be abused though too. This

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Speaker 3: is what we all do.

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Speaker 2: Flag laws will be abused and so this is what

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Speaker 2: But it's a conversation that's I understand people.

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Speaker 1: At a minimum, you can't respond to a shooting until

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Speaker 1: you know all the details and motivations of the shooter.

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Speaker 1: And so we're sitting here thirty seven days after the shooting.

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Speaker 1: This seems quite simple to me for the legislature, the

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Speaker 1: leaders to just say, hey, this whole thing has to

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Speaker 1: be released in order for us to have this special

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Speaker 1: legislative session. I would say the same thing to the

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Speaker 1: governor anybody in state government. To me, this is a simple,

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Speaker 1: straightforward demand that should be that should be acted upon

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Speaker 1: before you can decid Hey, we're going to try to

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Speaker 1: change existing law. You need to know how the existing

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Speaker 1: law failed. That's the most basic foundational level here, and

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Speaker 1: I think it would get a response in some way

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Speaker 1: other than there's pending litigation. So we can't release this

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Speaker 1: very strange, very odd behavior by the Nashville Police Department

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Speaker 1: legal team, whoever they may be making this choice. Eight

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Speaker 1: Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out

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Speaker 1: with us. We are rolling through the Wednesday edition of

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Speaker 1: the program and we have got a lot of people

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Speaker 1: who want to weigh in on this story surrounding the

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Speaker 1: school shooting and the failure to release the manifesto. Let's

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Speaker 1: dive right in. Sergeant Major Taylor from East Tennessee, Thanks

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Speaker 1: for your service. How would you assess the failure to

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Speaker 1: release this manifesto?

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Speaker 7: You know, sir, Thank you for accepting my call. It's

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Speaker 7: a great honored bill on your show. Listen to you guys,

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Speaker 7: luck Thank you as a political hat job. I mean,

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Speaker 7: come on, you know, I punted Terris all over the

578
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Speaker 7: world and I've never seen anything like this before.

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Speaker 1: I mean as a Tennessee And how disgusted are you

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Speaker 1: that this thing's not getting released?

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Speaker 7: It makes me violently ill to my stomach. I mean,

582
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Speaker 7: you know, we live in a great free state, yep.

583
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Speaker 7: And you know Governor Ly is supposed to be a conservative,

584
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Speaker 7: pro gun, this, that and the other. Now he's pulling

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Speaker 7: up red flag laws and all this stuff just because

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Speaker 7: some terrorists goes in and shoots up a Christian school.

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Speaker 2: Notice somebody else, Clay, who's a practitioner from the military side.

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Speaker 3: The word is terrorist. This is a terrorist and gentleman

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Speaker 3: is correct.

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Speaker 1: And the motivations here make a big deal, right, Sergeant Major.

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Speaker 7: Yes, sir, absolutely, I mean it's the same motivations all

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Speaker 7: over the world. I mean, you know two and two

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Speaker 7: equals four, you see one. I'm saying, So this is

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Speaker 7: just this is a political not mayor.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's a cover It's a cover up.

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Speaker 2: It absolutely is, and we're furious about it too, and

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Speaker 2: we've been calling it as you know, Serger Major, And

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Speaker 2: thank you so much, sir for your service. And thank

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Speaker 2: you for calling in. You know, we keep bringing We've

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Speaker 2: been bringing it up when it wasn't even a news cycle.

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Speaker 2: We've talked about last week, talking the week before. We're

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Speaker 2: not forgetting this because that's the whole game that they play.

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Speaker 2: That is what they are they're trying to do. You know, Clay,

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Speaker 2: did you see this?

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Speaker 3: Oh wait a week Oh sorry, we got every line lit.

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Speaker 3: I was like, wait is that? Do you want to

607
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Speaker 3: get to a couple of others.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's keep powering.

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Speaker 2: Justin the truck driver in Wilmington, North Carolina, love our

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Speaker 2: truck driver listeners.

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Speaker 3: What's going on?

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Speaker 6: Justin Paul?

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Speaker 5: Yes, sir, I'm just driving down the highway hands free.

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Speaker 5: So let's not forget where the gun free school's own

615
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Speaker 5: law came from. It came from crooked Joe Biden in

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Speaker 5: nineteen ninety and I believe it's part of his design

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Speaker 5: for his anti Second Amendment propaganda genda. You know, the

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Speaker 5: name is just garbage.

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Speaker 2: I just want to point out you are your your correct, sir.

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Speaker 2: The nineteen ninety Gun Free School Zone Act federal penalties

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Speaker 2: for possession and possessing a firearm on school ground, signed

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Speaker 2: by George H. W.

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Speaker 1: Bush, by the way, but Biden was.

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Speaker 2: Involved on the Senate side in the passage of that.

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Speaker 2: He introduced, Wait, let me just make sure that's correct here,

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at the Reuters fact checking of Ah. God, see,

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Speaker 2: there is the problem when you try to fact check

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Speaker 2: on the fly and you find a fact check you

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Speaker 2: can't trust the people that call themselves the fact checker.

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Speaker 1: Who checks the fact checkers? You look that up, Johnny

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Speaker 1: the truck driver also, Brooklyn, what do you got for us, Johnny?

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Just this weekend, me and my daughter were training

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Speaker 6: with our less than legal personal protection and she mentioned

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Speaker 6: to me that one of her teachers went over to

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Speaker 6: deers and don'ts if there is a school shooting. You're

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Speaker 6: not supposed to go start prussing your phone and calling

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Speaker 6: done one one because it'll make noise. So I asked her,

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Speaker 6: I said, would you be more comfortable if your teacher

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Speaker 6: was packing, if your teacher had a firearm? And she

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Speaker 6: said one hundred percent. Now, maybe my daughter might be

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Speaker 6: a little distant because I trained her up since she

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Speaker 6: was six years old, like all my other kids, how

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Speaker 6: to handle firearms safely, so it wouldn't concern her if

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Speaker 6: somebody was armed. But some of these parents and kids

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Speaker 6: really don't want their teachers to firearms in the school,

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Speaker 6: which is nonsense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate the call. Look, I'm fine if teachers

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Speaker 1: are well trained with the idea of a teacher having

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Speaker 1: a gun. I think what is imminently clear is that

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Speaker 1: every single school should have well trained security in that school,

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Speaker 1: like officers, security officials directly assigned to the school who

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Speaker 1: were armed. That's what happens at my kids school. That's

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Speaker 1: what I want for everybody.

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Speaker 2: We have a lot and and you know, a state

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Speaker 2: like Tennessee, you know how how many how many you know,

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Speaker 2: retired former military or retired former law enforcement veterans of

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Speaker 2: law enforcement out there with the firearm skills, with the

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Speaker 2: situational awareness, would would you know, would consider taking up

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Speaker 2: one of these roles and protecting the school and those

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Speaker 2: tons of them?

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 2: So, by the way, I want to just get to

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Speaker 2: this because it's clay, It's classic. There was a fact

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Speaker 2: check of the did Biden and introduce the Gun Free

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Speaker 2: School Zones Act from Reuters and you know what they.

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Speaker 3: Said, Oh well, it's not really true. Oh I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: It is kind of true though, because.

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Speaker 2: The legislation of the Gun Free School Zones Act of

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety was included in the crime bill that Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden's sponsor, So yeah, it was his. He was the

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Speaker 2: guy behind the crime bill, which he later repudiated as

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Speaker 2: we know, and the gun Free School Zones was in

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Speaker 2: the Biden crime Bill. So you start to see the

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Speaker 2: politics of this, friends, and you understand why the cover

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Speaker 2: up seems to be underway.

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Speaker 1: And in this way we come back. We got several

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Speaker 1: stories we still need to hit, including Raymond Royo from

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Speaker 1: Fox Newho's going to be in studio. But what in

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Speaker 1: the world's going on with the Tucker Carlson story. We'll

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Speaker 1: discuss next