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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show, Hoop. All of you had fabulous weekends. We

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Speaker 1: are now rolling fully into the month of December. We

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Speaker 1: can say officially, next month the voting for the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four presidency begins. We have a lot of different

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Speaker 1: data out on that front, and also an upcoming debate

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday down in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, where many people are

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Speaker 1: still celebrating the fact that they are Crimson Tide ended

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Speaker 1: up in the fourteen playoff. I know that it is

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Speaker 1: a big sports story when even Buck is reaching out

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Speaker 1: to me like, hey, what in the world's going on?

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Speaker 1: We will talk about that. We'll take some of your calls.

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Speaker 1: Our good friend Bill O'Reilly will swing by at one

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Speaker 1: thirty Eastern about halfway through the show. There are polls

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Speaker 1: out that continue to be very favorable for Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: in the battleground states.

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden has.

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Speaker 1: Hit and all time for most of our lives low

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Speaker 1: in approval rating net positivity of any incumbent president, and

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Speaker 1: I bet almost any of the lives of anyone listening

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Speaker 1: what does that mean?

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Speaker 2: How might it change now?

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Speaker 1: As we are under a year until votes will begin officially,

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Speaker 1: and we're going to be just breaking down a lot

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Speaker 1: of what's going on in the larger political process, including

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Speaker 1: lots of rallies that continue to attack Jewish people all

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Speaker 1: over this country, threats against Joe Biden from Arab voters

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Speaker 1: that they will no longer support him. All of those

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Speaker 1: directions we will be going. But we begin with a

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Speaker 1: situation here when Buck texts me and says, what in

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Speaker 1: the world is going on? When Donald Trump has put

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Speaker 1: out a statement saying, if you're upset about the college

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Speaker 1: football selection process, just blame Ron Desantas.

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Speaker 2: He's the governor of Florida.

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Speaker 1: For those of you who do not know, this has

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Speaker 1: continued to grow into an uproar started yesterday at noon

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Speaker 1: Eastern basically when the playoff rankings came out Florida State University.

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Speaker 1: Those of you who are Seminole fans in our audience

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Speaker 1: still fuming, still furious, thirteen and zero left out of

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Speaker 1: the college football four team playoff. Twelve and one Texas

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Speaker 1: and twelve and one Alabama both get in instead, thirteen

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Speaker 1: and oh Michigan and thirteen and Oh Washington, not at

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Speaker 1: all controversial, but those are the four teams that will

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Speaker 1: play for a national championship. Buck, you now live in Florida.

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Speaker 1: Your wife is a University of Florida graduate. So I

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Speaker 1: suppose if you had to take sides in the Florida

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Speaker 1: Florida State rivalry, it would be good for you to

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Speaker 1: be on the side of the Florida Gators based on

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Speaker 1: your wife. My assistant Katie, who you know that works

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Speaker 1: with me and has been with me for nearly a

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Speaker 1: decade now, is a Florida State seminole fan. So when

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Speaker 1: she showed up here at the Travis residence, she is

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Speaker 1: still fired up, as like I said, a Florida State alum.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, Congressman Byron Donald's open phone line

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Speaker 1: for Congressman Byron donalds if he or his staff want

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Speaker 1: he has fired up with my opinion that Florida State

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Speaker 2: So, Buck, you could potentially.

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Speaker 1: Be a moderator in the great did Florida State get

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Speaker 1: screwed debate or not? In the event that Congressman Donald's

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Speaker 1: I don't even know how busy I think there are

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Speaker 2: I think they're still in DC. But that is what

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Speaker 1: Congressman Donald's big Florida State seminole fan, represents the Naples

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Speaker 1: area in Congress, so he has fired up about that.

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Speaker 2: And I know that.

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Speaker 1: Senator Scott has said that there should be a congression.

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Speaker 1: I think he said a congressional investigation opened into this.

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Speaker 1: Marco Rubio is a huge college football fan. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure that he said anything, and I don't think that

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Speaker 1: I missed it.

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Speaker 2: But that is the chaos.

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Speaker 1: What as a non sports fan, buck, do you feel

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Speaker 1: like you just kind of saw a big fight happen

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Speaker 1: but it just like it was impossible to ignore.

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Speaker 3: I was the guy in the movie when the bar

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Speaker 2: So yeah, now I have some idea of what happened here.

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Speaker 1: So basically, and I understand a lot of people out

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Speaker 1: there who don't follow a college football are going to

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Speaker 1: think this is crazy, But they just have a committee

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Speaker 1: that decides who the four best teams are at the

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Speaker 1: end of the year and then seeds them one to four,

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Speaker 1: and they now compete in the playoff on New Year's Day,

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Speaker 1: the semifinals, and then about you know, seven or eight

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Speaker 1: undefeated teams. Some of you are going to think that

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Speaker 1: I am speaking you know, Chinese, because you don't pay a.

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Speaker 2: Lot of attention to this.

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Speaker 1: But if you are, and I would guess a substantial

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Speaker 1: majority of our audience does pay attention to college football

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Speaker 1: in some sense, because I see where we rate highly

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Speaker 1: to us right now, following along with college football and

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Speaker 1: certainly many parts of the Big Ten country and the SEC.

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Speaker 2: This is the heartbeat of a region.

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Speaker 3: And for the New Yorkers in Californians, you do not

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Speaker 3: watch any college football. I find that on the coast

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Speaker 2: Yes, they are, they are. That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I might as well be speaking Chinese right now, right

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Speaker 1: out of the open. But I'm there for you.

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Speaker 3: Guys, for you guys who have no idea, and gal's

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Speaker 3: what is going on there?

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Speaker 2: You go.

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Speaker 1: So all of this ties in with the looming chaos

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Speaker 1: Because I do think that is that is very funny

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Speaker 1: And you know, I went on with Dana Perino, Buck

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Speaker 2: So every now I think Dana does sports.

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Speaker 3: I have Trumpierre, Florida State was traded very badly by

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Speaker 3: the Committee. They've become the first Power five team to

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Speaker 3: be left out of college football playoffs. Really bad, really

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Speaker 3: bad look bad lobbying efforts. Let's blame desanctimonious.

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Speaker 1: That's actually what a good A good read as Trump too,

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Speaker 1: just very very funny. Uh, the governor of Florida just

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Speaker 1: on the side of Florida State. I think I was

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Speaker 1: trying to think from a political perspective. You know, Texas

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Speaker 1: doesn't feel like they were screwed. Trump's got Alabama locked

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Speaker 1: the ballot in the state of Alabama.

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Speaker 2: So maybe you go.

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Speaker 1: Ahead and try to score a few political points with

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Speaker 1: got the right decision. I know Alabama Crimson Tide fans

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Speaker 1: Texas fans not always happy. I think the college Football

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Speaker 1: Playoff Committee got it right. So I am of the

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Speaker 1: opinion that they did nothing wrong at all. You can

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Speaker 1: that is my hot take. They did everything right.

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Speaker 2: I did. I would have voted the exact same way

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Speaker 3: To your expertise on this one, man, I have watched

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Speaker 3: a college football game all year.

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Speaker 1: You should take the other side and scream Florida State

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Speaker 1: So then we're good. Oh no, didn't Florida's five and seven?

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Speaker 1: They didn't even make a playoff A They're not even

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Speaker 2: Florida Gators have never had three straight.

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Speaker 1: Losing seasons since nineteen forty seven.

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Speaker 2: Probably blame the sanctimonious.

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Speaker 1: Yes, all right, so that is out there. We'll take

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Speaker 1: some of your calls, probably have some fun with it.

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Speaker 1: But the debate is actually happening. Ironically, in an incredible twist,

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Speaker 1: Meghan Kelly, who's not usually involved in sports, may even

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Speaker 1: the debate Wednesday, Buck in Tuscaloosa, and Alabama is the

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Speaker 1: team that benefited against Florida State. So let's set the

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Speaker 2: But I want to mention one other thing that was great.

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Speaker 1: You know, I was at the Tunnel to Towers gala

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Speaker 1: Times Square Buck this weekend. It's why I was up

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Speaker 1: Drew Brees, of course, former New Orleans Saints quarterback who

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Speaker 1: That event raised over five million dollars for Tunnel to Towers,

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Speaker 1: and Frank Stiller got up, as many of you know,

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Speaker 1: the Union address where he basically said, I want to

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Speaker 1: end veteran homelessness once and for all, and he said

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Speaker 1: he asked everybody out there, and I'm going to ask

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Speaker 1: all of you two were in the holidays, if you

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Speaker 1: have eleven dollars a month that you can donate ninety

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Speaker 1: five percent of all money goes directly to help those

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Speaker 1: Not surprisingly, they've been audited, they have been checked out

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Speaker 1: a ton. They are taking care of so many people,

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Speaker 1: including Captain James Howard. He served for years in the

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Speaker 1: serious injuries and as a C five quadriplegic, all four

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Speaker 3: and to communicate effectively. Is that even really a job

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Speaker 3: that the modern presidency? Are those skills that the modern

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Speaker 3: presidency even requires that much? I think that's unfortunately something

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Speaker 3: of an open question, and I still hold to this.

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Speaker 2: I do not believe assuming I don't care who the or.

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Speaker 3: Well, no, if it's Trump, if it's another Republican, I

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Speaker 3: think actually maybe Biden would, but probably not. I do

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Speaker 3: not believe Joe Biden will debate Donald Trump in a

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Speaker 3: general election debate.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he'll do it.

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Speaker 3: And I think that the president of Trump not debating

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Speaker 3: in the primary will be used as a partial justification,

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Speaker 3: and then the rest of the justification will be Joe

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Speaker 3: Biden saying I cannot platform somebody who was a threat

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Speaker 3: to democracy in this country like he's on the ballot, Fine,

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Speaker 3: my Justice Department's trying to throw him in prison, Fine,

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Speaker 3: but I'm not going to stand on a debate stage

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Speaker 3: shake his hand and pretend like this is okay.

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Speaker 2: Do you agree with me on that you think that's

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Speaker 2: where this is going.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's one hundred percent where this is going.

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Speaker 1: And I think if you watched what DeSantis did to

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Speaker 1: Newsom last week, which we talked about quite a bit,

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Speaker 1: I think the odds of Biden getting on a state

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Speaker 1: with Nicky Haley or Ron DeSantis or Vivek Ramaswami are

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Speaker 1: equally slim because I don't think that Biden could be

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Speaker 1: on a stage with them.

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Speaker 2: I think it would be utter destruction.

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Speaker 1: And I think the Biden team knows that, and I

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Speaker 1: think they would come up with a reason why he

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Speaker 1: wasn't able to get on. I will say I do

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Speaker 1: think Nicky Haley has benefited quite a bit from the

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Speaker 1: debates because if you go back and look, you're right

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Speaker 1: that Viveik had a blip after the first debate back

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Speaker 1: in August and Milwaukee, a lot of people are very

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Speaker 1: interested in him.

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Speaker 2: Does not seem that he's sustain that interest.

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Speaker 1: I think without the debates, Nicki Haley never gets into

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Speaker 1: the conversation to potentially be the rival against Trump. So

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Speaker 1: so I do think she's benefited. I think DeSantis has

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Speaker 1: kind of been stationary. That is, he's always been kind

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Speaker 1: of right there as the second best choice. I don't

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Speaker 1: think other than this Newsom debate, which I do think

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Speaker 1: gave him a lot of momentum, I think DeSantis needs

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Speaker 1: to be a one v one setting. I think that's

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Speaker 1: what you can take from Newsom, and I'm curious to

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Speaker 1: see what we get on Wednesday. I think the fewer

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Speaker 1: people that are on the stage and we'll be down

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Speaker 1: to four, I think the more substantive the debate is

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Speaker 1: going to be.

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Speaker 2: We got a bunch of people who want to weigh in.

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Speaker 2: Let's take some of these calls.

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Speaker 1: John in the Woodlands, Texas, what you got for us?

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Speaker 5: Clay, I agree with your opinion on the four teams

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Speaker 5: in the playoffs. I think Florida State, if they had

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Speaker 5: played the schedules that Texas, Alabama, and Georgia played, even

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Speaker 5: with their starting quarterback, would not have been undefeated. And

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Speaker 5: without their starting quarterback, I don't think they're at top

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Speaker 5: sixteen ten and I think this will be proven when

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Speaker 5: Georgia takes them apart in the New Year's Days ball game.

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Speaker 5: They're gonna face each other. I mean, I'm not an

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Speaker 5: that CC fan. I've played baseball in the ACC years ago.

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Speaker 5: You know the is not the football program that the

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Speaker 5: Big Ten, the Big twelve, d SCC are.

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Speaker 1: So I appreciate the call. John, I think you are

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Speaker 1: a smart man. By the way, By the way I get.

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Speaker 2: Only the only.

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Speaker 1: Person that can send me notifications is the Wall Street Journal.

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Speaker 1: As John is talking, Buck Heartbeat Heartbreak discussed infuriation. This

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Speaker 1: year's college football playoff selection was a cruel but fitting

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Speaker 1: farewell to the four team format. That's what just popped

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Speaker 1: on my phone as John was talking. So even the

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Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal is sending me alerts about the college

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Speaker 1: football playoff. Charles in North Carolina? What you got, Charles

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Speaker 1: in North Carolina? You got us?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I got you? Fire away hemmy, yep, yeah.

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Speaker 6: I wanted to weigh in about this Florida state issue.

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Speaker 6: I'm a I'm a fifty year fan of the Atlantic

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Speaker 6: Coast Conference, but I do understand what seems to be

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Speaker 6: about to happen. But I think if the conference had

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Speaker 6: a nutsack at all, they would be getting their lawyers

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Speaker 6: ready to sue the absolute snot out of the college

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Speaker 6: football playoff system in the NCAA because this is gonna

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Speaker 6: do nothing if not accelerate Florida State's interest in leaving

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Speaker 6: the Atlantic Coast Conference.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for the call.

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Speaker 1: I do understand the idea that if Florida State wants

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Speaker 1: to leave the ACC. Buck, this is like, this is

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Speaker 1: all goblygook to you, but it is kind of fascinating.

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Speaker 1: There are two major conferences now, the SEC and the

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Speaker 1: Big Ten, and they have all the power, and Florida

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Speaker 1: State probably wants to be in one of those two conferences.

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Speaker 1: At this point, I will say the twelve team playoff

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Speaker 1: I think is going to diminish this because the ACC

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Speaker 1: will basically have an automatic bid and this would not

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Speaker 1: happen to Florida State and a twelve team playoff. But

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Speaker 1: I do think that's interesting. Last call here, Jeff in Louisville, Kentucky.

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Speaker 1: Another place where number one overall. We appreciate you listening, Jeff.

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Speaker 1: What you got for us?

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Speaker 4: Hey, hey, Buck, first time calling in since you guys

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Speaker 4: took over. It's gonna sound weird, but as a kid,

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Speaker 4: my grandpa had me calling a rush, so it's pretty excited.

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Speaker 2: To get back. What'd you call in to rush about?

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Speaker 7: Man?

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Speaker 4: There was a kid in around my age you called in,

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Speaker 4: and my grandpa was like, hey, just go in and

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Speaker 4: say that. You know your grandparents and your parents are

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Speaker 4: raising you, right, So I guess here I am. I

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Speaker 4: guess it worked out for him, But I just wanted

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Speaker 4: to say that, you know, regardless of who got in

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Speaker 4: or who was left out, I think ESPN is the

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Speaker 4: reason that the SEC got a team in SEC or

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Speaker 4: the ESPN's hurting for ratings when it's not college football season,

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Speaker 4: and so with the massive contract they just signed, I

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Speaker 4: think it benefits them to get Alabama in. I'm not

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Speaker 4: saying they're not deserving. I'm just pointing out that ESPN

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Speaker 4: is no longer the worldwide leader and and they're hurting. Man,

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Speaker 4: So leave it up for debate. It's a lot of fun,

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Speaker 4: but ultimately I think that's what happened.

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Speaker 1: Look, ESPN is in bed with the SEC, FOX is

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Speaker 1: in bed with the Big ten, and there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a lot of people talking about all the chaos that's

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Speaker 1: going on and also behind the scenes political machinations. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's the reality. Anytime you have twelve or thirteen people

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Speaker 1: voting on anything and that's all the committee is, people

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Speaker 1: talk about the committee. It's just what twelve or thirteen

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Speaker 1: people think, what kind of horse trading might have been

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Speaker 1: going on. Senator Rick Scott just put out a statement

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Speaker 1: saying that he wants basically an investigation from the Senate

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Speaker 1: into how this decision was made. Now, I would point

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Speaker 1: out he is up for reelection in the state of

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Speaker 1: Florida in eleven months. Probably not bad politics to go

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Speaker 1: all in defending a local state team that you feel

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Speaker 1: like was screwed. And I think that's probably partly part

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Speaker 1: of this issue. By the way, I've been talking Buck.

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Speaker 1: As you well know, my fifteen year old has a

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Speaker 1: pure talk phone. My thirteen year old is playing now

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Speaker 1: it's into basketball season. It's sometimes hard to find him.

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Speaker 1: My wife thought it was hysterical because he sounded like

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Speaker 1: My middle sent I don't even know where Lincoln is

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Speaker 1: right now? Can you find him? Can you track him down?

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Speaker 1: I don't know why you guys haven't given him a

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Speaker 1: phone yet. Well, in the Travis household, we're trying to

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Speaker 1: That's the line we've drawn. You get to be fourteen

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Speaker 1: worked so well, we're definitely going to get them a

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Speaker 1: It's been fantastic for you too. Yeah, I had it overseas.

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Speaker 3: Use it in Scotland's a lot of fun just taking

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Speaker 3: my photos and sending them overseas back to family to

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Speaker 3: show them Me and the Highlands.

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Speaker 2: In your kilt.

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Speaker 1: It was phenomenal. It worked for Buck, it works for me.

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Speaker 1: It'll work for you too, Pound two five zero, Do

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Speaker 1: it today again, pound two five zero. All right, well

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Speaker 1: we come back, Buck, what you got for us?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 3: There was some discussion on the Bill Maher Show involving

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Speaker 3: James Carville over the weekend. I think he said what

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Speaker 3: a lot of Democrats feel but aren't willing to say

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Speaker 3: out loud. We'll dive into that. Our friend Dave Rubin

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Speaker 3: was there holding the fourth down for sanity, and then

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Speaker 3: Clay will get into hamas Israel third I mean a

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Speaker 3: second hour, so right after that, So stick around, everybody.

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Speaker 1: Don't miss a minute of Clay Buck and get behind

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Speaker 3: You know, there's some moments of sanity that will occur

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Speaker 3: even in very liberal liberal settings, left wing settings, and

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Speaker 3: there were some on the Bill Mahers Show over the weekend.

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Speaker 3: On the representing sanity was our friend Dave Rubin and

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Speaker 3: representing the Democrats. Therefore the craziness James Carville and who's

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Speaker 3: been in the game for quite a long time, perhaps

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Speaker 3: most famous for his cameo in the movie Old School

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Speaker 3: when he debates Will Ferrell unsuccessfully, I might add, but

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Speaker 3: he throws in the towel.

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Speaker 2: But here he is.

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Speaker 3: And look, at some level, I think political punditry for

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Speaker 3: some people, it's just you say what you got to

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Speaker 3: say to get the attention and to be talked about

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Speaker 3: on shows like this. But I told you what's on

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Speaker 3: the front page of the New York Times. I'm you

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Speaker 3: know this. This isn't just a one off. The Republicans

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Speaker 3: are going to destroy the country and end the country

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Speaker 3: and create fascism if Donald Trump wins. This is a

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Speaker 3: mainstream Democrat talking point, at least in the media, and

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Speaker 3: that Speaker Johnson and the Supreme Court are even in

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Speaker 3: on this. Listen to Carville plays wealth.

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Speaker 7: If there's a bigger threat than al Qaeda up to

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Speaker 7: this country.

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Speaker 2: They and let me tell you something, speak of the House.

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Speaker 7: They got probably at least two Supreme Court justices, maybe more.

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Speaker 2: Don't tell yourself.

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Speaker 7: And people in the press have no idea who this

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Speaker 7: guy is. Hires form what the threat is, and this

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Speaker 7: is a fundamental threat to the United States. It is

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Speaker 7: a fundamental They don't believe in the Constitution. They'll tell

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Speaker 7: you that that Wright Johnson himself says, what is democracy

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Speaker 7: but two o's and a lamb having lunch? They believe that,

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Speaker 7: and they're coming.

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Speaker 3: Speaker Johnson is a the new House Speaker is a

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Speaker 3: bigger threat than al Qaeda. Clay this this this is

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Speaker 3: passing for analysis over at the Democrats side of the

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Speaker 3: table at whatever the Bill Marshaw is real time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then just look the analogy that James Carville made.

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Speaker 1: There is one that my con law professor used to

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Speaker 1: make all the time, which is a really good one. Right,

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Speaker 1: democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what's for

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Speaker 1: what's for lunch? Right, It is a funny thing, right,

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Speaker 1: because you got two wolves. Okay, they're going to eat

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Speaker 1: the sheep. But the way that's typically used is actually

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Speaker 1: to defend the role of the courts, because the courts

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Speaker 1: are supposed to protect the rights of the sheep, to

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Speaker 1: make sure that all the time the two wolves don't

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Speaker 1: just devour the sheep.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: The idea that the analogy that he broke out there

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Speaker 1: is actually to defend the role of the courts to

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Speaker 1: manage our constitutional republic. So that's not even a good

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Speaker 1: analogy by James carvill And I don't even.

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Speaker 2: Think he believes this.

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Speaker 1: This this We're gonna have to get used to this

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Speaker 1: book because there's only two things that Democrats.

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Speaker 2: Can argue in twenty twenty four. One.

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Speaker 1: Democracies at stake. Assuming Trump's the nominee, Trump is Hitler.

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Speaker 1: But mark my words, if it were the ak Ramaswami,

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Speaker 1: if it were Ron DeSantis, if it were Nicky Hayley,

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Speaker 1: they would all turn into Hitler too. Remember what they

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Speaker 1: did to Mitt Romney, So they're going to label and

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Speaker 1: even as you saw DeSantis post twenty twenty two start

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Speaker 1: to rise up, they started to attack him as what

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Speaker 1: worse than Trump, worse than Hitler. So whoever the nominee is,

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Speaker 1: look at what they did to Mitt Romney, they are

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Speaker 1: going to absolutely fillay that person.

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Speaker 2: You know by the second one is abortion. Yeah, the

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Speaker 2: second one's abortion. That's it.

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Speaker 1: That's all they got. Trump is Hitler or whoever else

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Speaker 1: is Hitler. Democracies at stake and abortion. That is their

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Speaker 1: whole case. That's it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I would like to put up a bet

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Speaker 3: with Liz Cheney. She says that a vote for Trump

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Speaker 3: may mean the last election you ever get to vote in.

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Speaker 3: I would like her to know what sum of money

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Speaker 3: could we put up? Man, Maybe we could do this

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Speaker 3: for charity.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Well, that was a great sum of money that you

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Speaker 3: will want to know that this will not be the

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Speaker 3: last election we ever get to vote in if Donald

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Speaker 3: Trump wins.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this is.

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Speaker 3: Moronic stuff to say out loud, but it's reported on

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Speaker 3: and talked about and spouted from the most elitist liberal platforms.

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Speaker 2: Great idea by you, Liz Cheney and her people.

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Speaker 1: If they're listening, I will put up, just like I

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Speaker 1: did for the WNBA buck, one million dollars of my

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Speaker 1: own money. I don't know that Liz Cheney has a

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Speaker 1: million dollars. She might have it from her dad. But

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Speaker 1: whatever dollar figure she can actually put forward, I don't

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Speaker 1: want donors that regardless of what happens in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 1: there will be an election that we all get to

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Speaker 1: vote in two twenty six. Whatever dollar figure Liz Cheney

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Speaker 1: wants to put down on the table, I will bet

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Speaker 1: against her. That we will have elections in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: Balls in your court. She's got a new book coming out.

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Speaker 1: Let's see if she actually has the stones to step

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Speaker 1: up and actually stand behind what she's claiming.

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Speaker 2: And if she doesn't believe that, why say it?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Why be a part of the hysteria. Why be

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Speaker 3: a part of trying to tear down the Republican Party? Well,

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Speaker 3: because it was really never about the country of the

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Speaker 3: Republican Party.

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Speaker 2: It's always been about Liz Cheney. For her