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Speaker 2: I saw Devin Williams is the only one I saw

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Speaker 4: But his his his he had Yeah, he had more

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Speaker 4: No, he definitely didn't shave this morning. But he's just

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Speaker 5: He is that guy. So good for him.

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Speaker 3: All Right, Well, we're excited to talk to some Yanks.

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Speaker 3: Let's charge the mound while we have time. Well it

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Speaker 3: Look, let's sit the inside scoop e Ft senior insider

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Speaker 3: Ken Rosendahal with us right now, and you've got a

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Speaker 3: J and Kratz from Yankees Camp. Ken, great to see

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Speaker 7: What are they doing?

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Speaker 3: Why aren't they signing Katana right now? So can you

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Speaker 2: If you want to play, you're gonna play for whatever

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Speaker 7: And that's what Arnatto's thinking.

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Speaker 3: That's Ken Rosenthal obviously fair territory coming up to tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what he said.

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Speaker 5: That's what he said.

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Speaker 3: That's what he said. All right. We love Max Schurz

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're biased.

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Speaker 4: They need to have one with even without the people

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Speaker 3: they do a good job. They do a good job,

438
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Speaker 3: but a good job for them still could be ninety

439
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Speaker 3: two percent, and that means they miss eight percent of

440
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Speaker 3: calls that day and now we have an opportunity to

441
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Speaker 3: fix some of them. And yes, on top of all

442
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,880
Speaker 3: of this, so far, it has been roaring, roaring reviews

443
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:10,400
Speaker 3: from players, fans, managers, front office, basically everybody in baseball

444
00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,520
Speaker 3: has been a fan of this. If you're super old

445
00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,600
Speaker 3: school and you just believe that everything should be exactly

446
00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,840
Speaker 3: how it was, okay, But I mean we had this

447
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Speaker 3: argument about the pitch clock too, and the pitch clock

448
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Speaker 3: has actually brought the game more back to a seventy

449
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Speaker 3: eighties nineties style of pace because it got slowed up

450
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Speaker 3: because people took advantage of the rules and said, hey,

451
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Speaker 3: I'm just going to slow this game down so I

452
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Speaker 3: could manipulate it the way I want to. So anyway,

453
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Speaker 3: conclusion is it's been awesome. Todd Father, remember the good

454
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Speaker 3: old days when we would have the cards and the binders,

455
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456
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Speaker 3: to sell online and it's just real clunky. They really

457
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,080
Speaker 3: actually weren't the good old days, were they?

458
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Speaker 9: No, they were definitely not. But now there's a better way.

459
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460
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461
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462
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463
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464
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473
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Speaker 3: foul codefoul for twenty percent off your first purchase. Let's

474
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Speaker 3: get to cal Raley actually on the ABS system. He

475
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Speaker 3: spoke yesterday.

476
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Speaker 10: Well, the first thing I would do is not implement

477
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Speaker 10: the ABS.

478
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Speaker 3: Oh okay, why.

479
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Speaker 10: I just think it's good for the game. I just

480
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,680
Speaker 10: don't think that robot ops should be going the whole game.

481
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,199
Speaker 10: I think there's a good human element to it. It

482
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Speaker 10: holds accountability and honestly, like people want to see, you know,

483
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Speaker 10: some bad calls every once in a while, and they

484
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,200
Speaker 10: want to see people get thrown out of a game.

485
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 10: And like, if you take it all that away, nobody's

486
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 10: gonna get thrown out. And that also draws, you know,

487
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 10: a larger crowd to watch in baseball. So I would

488
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 10: not implement the ABS. I don't think it's a good idea.

489
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Speaker 10: The challenge system is interesting.

490
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Speaker 3: It feels like a good middle ground.

491
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

492
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Speaker 10: Maybe, like it's it's out there, so it's like maybe,

493
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Speaker 10: you know, we'll see how it goes.

494
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Speaker 3: Cow Cow. I'm gonna represent the fans here. We do

495
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 3: not want bad calls. We do not go to a

496
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Speaker 3: game and say, man, I can't wait until the umpire

497
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Speaker 3: really blows that call. We actually want this challenge system,

498
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 3: like krat said, so we can go, uh, you're wrong.

499
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Speaker 3: The machine said, you're wrong. Let's play on and fix this.

500
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Speaker 5: I think he said two things.

501
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Speaker 2: I think I think he meant more like, we're taking

502
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Speaker 2: all the argaming out of the game. There's no there's

503
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 2: nothing for our managers to argue. They can't argue. They

504
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,880
Speaker 2: can't argue anything because replay covers almost everything. Now they're

505
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 2: gonna gonna be able to argue balls and strikes.

506
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Speaker 1: What what good? What fun is it?

507
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 2: How are you gonna come and see Loop Panela kick

508
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 2: dirt and Lloyd mcclennon pick a bag up and steal it,

509
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 2: and Earl Weaver and all these managers come out and

510
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 2: put on a show for the fans and get their

511
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,679
Speaker 2: team fired up. I mean, I get it, But at

512
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Speaker 2: the same time, I'm like, I like the challenge system.

513
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,400
Speaker 2: Let's not go to full at full automatic the challenge system.

514
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 1: Because you know what it does. Also, we've taken all.

515
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Speaker 2: The strategy out of the game by getting rid of

516
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 2: the National league teams. Anyways, so are the National league rules?

517
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 2: So let's have something. We got to have a little

518
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Speaker 2: strategy to do. Yeah, I don't know when do.

519
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Speaker 1: I tap my head when coach Hey Boney can.

520
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Speaker 5: I no, not you, not you me, No, not you.

521
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Speaker 4: I think I think when what cal said could get

522
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Speaker 4: misconstrued in the sense he was talking about the ABS system,

523
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Speaker 4: which is a strictly the robo umpire, and then he

524
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Speaker 4: talked about the challenge system, which I think I haven't

525
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 4: heard anybody complain until Max talked about it there about

526
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Speaker 4: how well if we have a challenge system, I think

527
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Speaker 4: it could be something that could work. But the strict

528
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 4: robo umps. I don't even think people, you know, as

529
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Speaker 4: Scott's representing the fans. I don't even think fans would

530
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 4: love to see nobody back there except for to call,

531
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Speaker 4: you know, play at the plate, so the umpire comes

532
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 4: running out as the play at the plate happens. I

533
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Speaker 4: don't I don't think anybody wants to see that.

534
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm good with challenge. That's my decision at least

535
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Speaker 3: for now. The only thing I would do is say

536
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 3: you get two and then you get one more, starting

537
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Speaker 3: in the say seventh inning.

538
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 2: More more, more, two, and then you get one more

539
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Speaker 2: and then if you get that one right again, I mean, like,

540
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Speaker 2: come on, you just have unlimited challenges and it'scott no,

541
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Speaker 2: you get two, you get in the head.

542
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Speaker 1: Three.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I went four. Can I get a four hundred five?

544
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Speaker 5: We got four? Kind of get five? I think.

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Speaker 4: I think it's like the mound visits. The mound visits

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Speaker 4: started I think at seven and then they went to six,

547
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Speaker 4: and then it went to five because he saw that

548
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Speaker 4: they weren't really using them. But there has to be

549
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,679
Speaker 4: some kind of leeway in. There has to be some

550
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 4: kind of like bumper and I know it's not coming

551
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 4: in this year, but it has to be a bumper

552
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 4: where you're like, okay, we're not using them, but man,

553
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 4: that was egregious. We can still go and do that

554
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 4: because they do that with a mound visits.

555
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Speaker 5: You get to zero. And if something haywire goes.

556
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Speaker 4: On and the umpire feels like it's fine to use

557
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Speaker 4: a you know, to go and have a mound visit.

558
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Speaker 5: They allow it. They're not gonna allow it for just anything,

559
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 5: but you have to use common sense when they do

560
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Speaker 5: finally implement this.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, as I just asked for three three

562
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Speaker 3: total instead of two get three.

563
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Speaker 7: I want four.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's the problem. See, I mean one's fine.

565
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Speaker 2: I don't want five, don't I want to because it's

566
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 2: more strategicy. More strategicy, the less you have because you

567
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 2: got to pick one to use them. And like, listen,

568
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Speaker 2: what is what is John Schneyder gonna do in Max

569
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 2: ers or goes like this and he's wrong. He's gonna

570
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Speaker 2: take Max in the corner and punish him. No, I

571
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Speaker 2: don't think, Nope, he's not gonna yell at him. He's

572
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,199
Speaker 2: gonna be like man. But then sure Teachery comes in

573
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 2: in Max next time might not top his head as.

574
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Speaker 3: Quick and then it's bottom eight and flatties up and

575
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 3: he gets wrung up.

576
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Speaker 2: And now it would be cool. What happens if they

577
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 2: forget they're out of challenges? Do they like lose a

578
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 2: run like a basketball every when Michigan called time out,

579
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Speaker 2: Chris whoever? They got a technical right? Like, I tap

580
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Speaker 2: my head, Oh wait, you're out of challenges. Guess what

581
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Speaker 2: your doctor?

582
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 1: Run?

583
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Speaker 5: You're thrown out of the game like a technical challenge?

584
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Speaker 5: Are you arguing with me? You're gone?

585
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 3: I think the yump just gets to say, ha ha,

586
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 3: you challenge two times already in this game and we're wrong.

587
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 3: So ha ha, you don't get it. Play on. I

588
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 3: think that's what you do.

589
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Speaker 1: That's a terrible game. You missed.

590
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Speaker 2: You missed the other eighteen I missed you challenge that

591
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 2: was right, and.

592
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Speaker 3: Hey if they start arguing, good, then you got your

593
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 3: argument still and then someone can get kicked out.

594
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 2: What if, like say, sake off for bid, somebody goes

595
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Speaker 2: like this and they're just adjusting their helmet and they're like,

596
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Speaker 2: we're challenging, challenging the umpires at him for something and

597
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 2: they're like, oh, he challenged even though pitch was like

598
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 2: way out, like it was an intentional walk or some

599
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 2: pitch out or something.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

601
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 3: So you're playing into what you're saying. There's still many

602
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 3: other ways to get in arguments with umpires and put

603
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 3: on a show at times where people will get thrown

604
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 3: out of games. You guys asked Ken about this, but

605
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 3: I want to get your take on both Arnado and Rizzo.

606
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 3: Let's start with Arnatto. He took a long trip to

607
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 3: be here. Can you take me inside how that went down?

608
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 3: Do you think that was more Nolan or the team?

609
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 3: And do you think that him showing up in Tampa

610
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 3: shows the Yanks a little bit extra that he wants

611
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 3: to be there. And do you really think that if

612
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 3: he performs well or looks good that it can lead

613
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 3: to anything? Or is this just eyewash.

614
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 5: You're asking me?

615
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think listen, he didn't want to make

616
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Speaker 2: a four hour, three and a half hour drive unless

617
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 2: he really maybe wanted to go play for the team

618
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 2: that they're playing against. I don't know it to me. Listen,

619
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Speaker 2: the Yankees if he ends up in the Yankees are

620
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 2: do you know what Nolan R and Onno could do?

621
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Speaker 2: So the fact if he drove this far, I don't

622
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 2: know if we should be giving him credit or I'm

623
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 2: asked more of like why. I remember when I saw

624
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 2: him walk in, I was like, man, Ollie Marmle hates him.

625
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 2: If he had to drive all the way here, and

626
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 2: you know they were laughing at No. He wanted to come,

627
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 2: so good for him he wanted. I mean, when you

628
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 2: get to a certain point in your career, Scott, you

629
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 2: can make those decisions. And Nolan wanted to come. Now

630
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 2: why he wanted to come, I don't know. Maybe he

631
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 2: has family in Tampa, maybe there's someone he wants to

632
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 2: have dinner with Maybe he enjoyed the hotel they were

633
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 2: staying in last night.

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Speaker 5: I don't know. Maybe he's golfing up at Innisbrook, maybe

635
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Speaker 5: he's driving something like that.

636
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

637
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Speaker 4: But as focused as he is, and the fact that

638
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 4: he's a VET, he definitely asked to come on this trip.

639
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 4: He could have played all games in Jupiter and never

640
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 4: had to leave Jupiter. Yes, I agree with you that

641
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 4: a dog that all the teams Dodgers, Yankees, Tigers, Red Sox,

642
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 4: they all know what Aeronauto can do and has done,

643
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 4: But he is kind of trying to rebuild his value

644
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 4: a little bit after the season. There's no better way

645
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 4: to show a team than by putting yourself right in

646
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 4: front of them. Because today the Yankees are gonna be

647
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 4: working out all their infielders. They're gonna have certain guys

648
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 4: at third, they're gonna have certain guys at second, and

649
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 4: maybe something happens to me. I think this is very deliberate,

650
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 4: and I think it is a in my opinion, hats

651
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 4: off to Aeronato because it shows while he doesn't want

652
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 4: to be with the Cardinals, he doesn't want to play

653
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Speaker 4: at all. Twenty nine other teams, well now twenty eight

654
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 4: because the Red Sox don't want him and the Astros

655
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 4: seem to not want him. But it shows he wants

656
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 4: to go somewhere, and maybe he's showing that he's willing

657
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 4: to change his change the teams he'll go to.

658
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 3: And then I want to ask you about Rizzo too,

659
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 3: especially because you're at Yanks camp and he was part

660
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 3: of the Yanks the last couple of years. I know

661
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 3: he's dealt with injuries. We talked to this, talked about

662
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,959
Speaker 3: this with Ken Rosenthal. But whether you believe in it

663
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 3: or not, and whether you think that it should drive

664
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 3: value for a player, front offices are not just looking

665
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 3: at basic stats, and even if they did, they don't

666
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 3: look great recently for Anthony because he hasn't been on

667
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 3: the field as much and doesn't look like the prime

668
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 3: Anthony Rizzo. And that's okay, But if you go to

669
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 3: his stackass page, I mean the percentiles in terms of

670
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 3: where he ranks among the league in most of the

671
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 3: hitting peripheral numbers or towards the bottom right. The only

672
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 3: one that you know he's got some red four is

673
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 3: some contact, but everything else, you know, expected slugging, exitb

674
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 3: low barrel percentage, hard hit percentage, et cetera. Is towards

675
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 3: the very bottom of baseball. Okay, So no matter who

676
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 3: he is, and obviously the credentials that he has, he's

677
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 3: not getting five million bucks to join a team right now.

678
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 3: It's just how it is. I would say our show

679
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 3: gives credit to players for getting their value more than

680
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 3: any other show right where like, hey, this player's getting

681
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 3: screwed in this situation. I'm just legitimately feel like it's

682
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 3: late career hitting you and it's hard to get phone

683
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 3: calls like that. But you guys tell me if you

684
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 3: feel otherwise.

685
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 2: That's what I don't know what I said, Isn't that

686
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 2: what I said? Like, there comes a point where you

687
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 2: got to just decide if you want to play or

688
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 2: not and if the money's worth it. There's I mean, yeah,

689
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 2: I mean you can look at all you want, but yeah,

690
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: he has some intangibles. He could bring leadership, defense, whatever

691
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 2: it is. Maybe he bounces back, but at the end

692
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 2: of the day, you've got to make a decision for

693
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 2: you and your family. Do I want to play or

694
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 2: do I not want to play? Is a million bucks

695
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 2: worth it? Most people on the Street would say yes.

696
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 2: But maybe Anthony Rindol has made enough to where he

697
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: doesn't have to pay for a million bucks. He doesn't

698
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 2: want to play.

699
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 5: For a million bucks.

700
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 2: That's his decision. Many people have made this decision in

701
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 2: the passcott, So listen, it just comes down to does

702
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 2: he want to play or not if he has offers

703
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 2: on the table. And you know, when Ken's talking about

704
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 2: non roster invitees, you're late into camp. Most rosters are full.

705
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: Guess what if you're a veteran guy like that and

706
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 2: you call If someone calls Anthony Rizzo, they're not calling

707
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: him to have him come to camp and not make

708
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 2: the team. You're probably gonna make the team unless you

709
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 2: just are so out of shape and just look off

710
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 2: or you're a turd. Yeah, exactly, unless something goes haywire,

711
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 2: which we've never heard about Anthony Rizzo. So that's why

712
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 2: when he's like, oh, these guys are getting non roster invitees,

713
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 2: of course they are, because team to have him over

714
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 2: the barrel right now because games have started. Camp's already

715
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 2: multiple weeks in and if you haven't signed by now,

716
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 2: then they know you're getting desperate.

717
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: So it's a tough situation.

718
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 5: It is.

719
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I couldn't agree more. And there's nobody

720
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 4: that can speak on understanding or not understanding your value

721
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 4: to play baseball than me. Like I took the lowest

722
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 4: I took NRIs non roster invites all the time, and

723
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 4: I knew the exact opposite of what he was saying

724
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 4: about Rizzo. I most likely, unless there's an injury, I

725
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 4: was going to triple A. There's a couple couple of

726
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 4: times where it was like, Oh, no, you're gonna make

727
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 4: the team. You're gonna be our second guy, You're gonna

728
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 4: be the backup. We're carrying three catchers, whatever it is.

729
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 4: So you have to understand your value, and you have

730
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 4: to understand where you're at with or where the team's at,

731
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 4: but also where you were at with all those numbers

732
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 4: that you were talking about. Scott, if he thinks his

733
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 4: value is higher than that, but he's okay being at home.

734
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 4: You have to be okay being at home. You have

735
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 4: to go out on your terms or you're gonna feel

736
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 4: some type of way about baseball, like, oh, baseball screwed me,

737
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 4: no matter what it is.

738
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I understand players saying, hey, I gotta make

739
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 3: sure that I don't mess up future players with comps.

740
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 3: But I'm like, I don't see this at all here.

741
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 3: You know that not at the bottom defense at the

742
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 3: bottom of the hittings are at the bottom of his career.

743
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 2: He's not in the prime of his career. He's at

744
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 2: the end of his career. So at the end of

745
00:33:58,320 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 2: your career is different than when you're in the prime.

746
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 2: When you're in the prime of your career, that's when

747
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 2: you can move the market. But when you're at the

748
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 2: end of your career, you're just trying to get whatever

749
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 2: you can as far as I'm concerned. I mean, you know,

750
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 2: so the next time a thirty eight year old I think,

751
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 2: is Rizzio thirty eight? How old is he he's thirty whatever,

752
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 2: he is, thirty.

753
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 3: Thirty six or seven, something like that in that range.

754
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 2: The next time a thirty six thirty seven year old

755
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 2: first baseman coming off basically two bad years in a row,

756
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 2: not great years, and he's a free agent. Oh no,

757
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 2: he's only going to get two or three million dollars.

758
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 2: Like most of the times, guys would be like, Okay,

759
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 2: I got to prove myself and I have a good year,

760
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 2: I can do it again. Right, So it just it

761
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 2: just comes down to do you want to play? I

762
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 2: keep saying it, Anthony Rizzard, you want to play or not?

763
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 5: That's it.

764
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 2: Do you want to play? If you want to play,

765
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 2: great and if not, even great too. I don't totally

766
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 2: look to you like you've done enough. You won a

767
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 2: World Series, You've done a lot of cool things. You've

768
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 2: hit big homers, you've played in Chicago, San Diego, New York. Like,

769
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 2: you've done a lot of great things. If you're ready

770
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 2: to hang them up, guess what, go home and live

771
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 2: your life with your family and be happy, and it'll

772
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 2: be great.

773
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 3: Also, there's a first baseman who right now, in my

774
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 3: mind is a better player than him for this coming season,

775
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 3: who just took a minor league contract. His name is

776
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 3: Rowdy Tiles. He had better numbers last year. You had

777
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 3: better peripheral numbers last year. I think even his defense

778
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 3: rated better last year. Obviously, Anthony Rizzo much better career.

779
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 3: But right now, this second, you just had a guy

780
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 3: that took a minor league contract with the Mariners. Rowdy

781
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 3: signed with the Mariners.

782
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:29,479
Speaker 4: I didn't know last week.

783
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that was on Friday. So you didn't

784
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 5: hear it.

785
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 1: That's why I didn't see it.

786
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 5: Ima.

787
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 3: That's so rude, but that's my point. Rowdy. I know, Rowdy.

788
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 3: Rowdy is a better player. One more quick thing too,

789
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 3: because we didn't get a ton of time to talk

790
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 3: about it. But I just want to circle back to it.

791
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 3: Kyle Finnegan thirty eight saves last year. He was an

792
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 3: All Star. He was great at the back end of

793
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 3: the bullpen for the Nats. High v low guy, low

794
00:35:54,800 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 3: strikeout guy, right ground ball guy, but really really effective

795
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 3: pitcher who also I think gets dinged by some of

796
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 3: these peripheral statskrats. You know, he's not striking out the

797
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 3: world in the ninth inning, but he got six million bucks,

798
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 3: and I do think he's got value. I do think

799
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 3: the Nats hurt his value a little bit by non

800
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 3: tendering him, because then other teams are like, oh, well,

801
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 3: you don't think he's worth eight or nine, Okay, but

802
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 3: he still goes back and gets almost that number. And

803
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 3: I think it makes the Nats a lot better because

804
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 3: I was pretty worried about that bullpen.

805
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, but six minutes, like, who doesn't have six million dollars.

806
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 4: That's why I had my fingers up. Who doesn't have

807
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 4: six million dollars for Kyle Finnegan as like your backup

808
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 4: to the backup plan for the sense of we got

809
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 4: a closer. You know he's going to be down for

810
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 4: fifteen days. Bang, we throw Kyle Finnegan in to get

811
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 4: some saves, like he's done it before.

812
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 5: Having that experience is huge. But I.

813
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 4: Six million, I feel like I feel like everybody's got

814
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 4: six million, all the teams.

815
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, of course, I'm curious how the offseason

816
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 3: went for him and what kind of phone calls came through.

817
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,919
Speaker 3: But he also does get to take the ninth inning back,

818
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 3: so I'm glad it worked out for him. Yeah, he

819
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 3: was the name where you're looking around, You're like, hey,

820
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 3: what's going on? Why any teams looking at Kyle Finnegan.

821
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 3: We didn't really hear many rumors about him throughout the offseason.

822
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: True, what are you gonna do?

823
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 7: Though?

824
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: I mean again, it's tough, man, It's tough.

825
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 4: You play musical chairs, musical chairs in your little there's

826
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 4: no chair left exactly.

827
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 3: Get out of here, Trevor. It's time for your bet MGM, futures.

828
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 3: Look at Brent. Everyone can okay, thirty four and a

829
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 3: half homers. We're going up or down on this. I

830
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 3: need analysis on Sacramento. Hey, J Kratz, it's gonna play.

831
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 5: Can you hear me?

832
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I think.

833
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 5: I think they muted.

834
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 2: But I must say, I must say I'm not touching this.

835
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 2: I mean because I don't know how it's gonna play.

836
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 2: I don't know how Sacramento is gonna play, Thank you too.

837
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 2: I don't know how it's gonna play. How Sacramento could

838
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I played there twenty five years ago, Like,

839
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 2: I don't know. It was a good place to hit,

840
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 2: but I just don't know because it's different. I'm not

841
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 2: I'm saying don't touch it. I mean for me personally.

842
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 2: I hope Broker hits more than that, just from a

843
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 2: personal standwoy, because I like him. But other than that,

844
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 2: I do not touch this.

845
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 4: It's one of those things that the number is gonna

846
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 4: go up if it plays like a PCL park. But

847
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 4: as far as PCL parks go, it's not one of

848
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 4: the bigger ones. I mean, it's it's not one of

849
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,919
Speaker 4: the ones that a ton of dudes hit a ton

850
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 4: of homers.

851
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 5: It's it's one of.

852
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 4: The ones that was more fair, but you're also playing

853
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 4: in Tucson at the time, you're also playing in Reno.

854
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 4: You're playing in places where it's just you're on the

855
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 4: moon and Sack Albuquerque. Sack wasn't one of those. But

856
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 4: it doesn't mean when you put big leaguers in a

857
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 4: minor league park that it's not gonna get bigger.

858
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. You're saying it wasn't one of

859
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,439
Speaker 3: those top top hitting parks in that league. But where

860
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 3: does it compare to a big league park? It still

861
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 3: could be a bandbox. Did you get that, Vive or

862
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 3: it's too hard to tell based on comps.

863
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 2: It's hard to tell because here's I mean, they do

864
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 2: use big league balls in Triple A now, so it's

865
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 2: a little bit different. But it's not big league hitters,

866
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 2: it's not big league pitching, it's not big lead atmosphere,

867
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 2: it's not big lea everything.

868
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: So I don't know.

869
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,879
Speaker 2: It's too early to tell until I see. You're gonna

870
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 2: have to see it, you know, a month or two

871
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: of games before you can decide it. Because everyone remember

872
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 2: Toronto used to be a great place to hit. They

873
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,439
Speaker 2: move the fences and everyone's like, oh, it's a pitcher's park, Like, wait,

874
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 2: what happened? It's the same park and I never played

875
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 2: in sack. I played in every triple A stadium. That's

876
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Speaker 2: one of my.

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Speaker 3: All right, I'm taking the under on that one. From

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887
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 3: who's in Cubs camp who's just hanging around with the guys,

888
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 3: back with his old fam.

889
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,280
Speaker 1: Anthony Rizzo? Anthony Rizzo.

890
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 3: No, no, not on Rizzo too soon. By the way,

891
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,919
Speaker 3: the other thing I thought about with Rizzo was how

892
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 3: he was insulted about their extension offer. He would have

893
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 3: made more money with that extension from the Cubs. The

894
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 3: Cubs got a lot of crap back then for offering

895
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 3: extensions to everyone, and some of the guys did better,

896
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 3: like Chris Bryant, and some didn't.

897
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: Just saying anyway, it happens.

898
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 3: The answer, the answer we were looking for, is Sammy Sosa.

899
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 5: Hello, Sammy, look at Sammy.

900
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 2: That's else you know what. Good for Sammy. Welcome back

901
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 2: sa Listen. Say what you want about Sammy the way

902
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 2: he left them. He did leave I think his last

903
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 2: game in the middle of the game, which is something

904
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 2: I had never heard of before. And he didn't leave

905
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 2: on the best terms. But welcome back Sammy, because you

906
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 2: can't tell the Cubs history without Sammy sos to being

907
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 2: a large chunk of it. I mean from the home

908
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 2: run chases to him running out. Remember when he ran

909
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 2: out with the flag out the yfield after nine to eleven, Like.

910
00:41:58,440 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: How cool was that?

911
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, you know, listen, there's ups and downs

912
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 2: in everyone's career. It's a shame the way it ended

913
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,919
Speaker 2: with them there, But Sammy is part of Cubs history

914
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 2: and he deserves to be around. Good for you Cubs,

915
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 2: Good for you Ricketts family, and good for you Sammy.

916
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 4: Yes, big, big for Sammy, because I know there's feelings, hurt,

917
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 4: feelings hurt on both sides, So good for them for

918
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 4: coming together because he is. If you think about storylines,

919
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 4: people are going to bring up the No Championships twenty

920
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 4: sixteen Bartman and Sammy Sosa as your top some of

921
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 4: your top five stories.

922
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: True.

923
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 3: I agree, Yeah, especially in the past like thirty years

924
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,240
Speaker 3: or so. Obviously there's more history if you go further

925
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 3: back Arnie Banks and Ryan Samberg, etc. Anyway, I want

926
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 3: to spend the last few minutes talking about Andrew McCutcheon

927
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 3: talking about Mike trout AJ. We need't get to really

928
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 3: slice up those comments, but did you take it as

929
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 3: Cutch saying, Hey, Trouty, you were a legend, But if

930
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,439
Speaker 3: you want to stay on the field, maybe you take

931
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 3: some of those DH spots on certain days where you're

932
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 3: feeling it.

933
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

934
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 2: You know what's funny is we talked to Aaron Boone

935
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 2: about Cody Bellinger. I saw Cody earlier and he was

936
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 2: trying to get here but he ran out of time

937
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 2: and I mentioned it and he said, you know, the

938
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 2: difference in center field is again what we've talked about.

939
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 2: You have to cover so much ground and you're always

940
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 2: in play. The ball can go either way. You have

941
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 2: to back up your right and your left fielder. He says,

942
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 2: you know, right or left field. You know, a batter

943
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 2: hits it, you know what's going usually one one way

944
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 2: or the other. But in center you have to cover

945
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 2: both gaps. You have to cover kind of both lines.

946
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 2: You're running all over the place. He's like, listen, I

947
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 2: can play center field every day. I'm still young enough.

948
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 2: I still really enjoy it. But he's like, good for Trout.

949
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 2: You know what his biggest thing was that we both

950
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 2: agreed with. We both want Mike Trout on the field,

951
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 2: just so we can see him, whether it's dh right field,

952
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 2: first base, second base, wherever he's got to play, to

953
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: be on the field.

954
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: It's good for the game. We need Mike Trout on

955
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: the field, whatever it takes.

956
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 4: And that's players. That's player, player on player fanboy. Yeah,

957
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 4: Cutch wants to see Trout out there. Belly was SETI

958
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 4: saw it on the show, right, Yeah, he said he

959
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 4: saw touch his interview. So it's like players understand, and

960
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 4: players like this, like guys kind of help and they

961
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 4: like want to see certain players out there because they're

962
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,479
Speaker 4: freaking good and they're great for the game.

963
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 3: Kratz hats at the Buzzer here.

964
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 4: Obvious another new era special, but Boonie's Boonie came out

965
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 4: with the pants on and they matched. It really made

966
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 4: the hat. Might not it might not wear the hat

967
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 4: many other places, but appreciate your new era Yankees hat,

968
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 4: the home hat. I had the great one on the

969
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 4: other day. I like the great one better for an

970
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 4: everyday hat.

971
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 3: Thirty seconds left, say your.

972
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you the Yankees, the people that came out,

973
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: Aaron Boone look.

974
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 2: Weaver obviously got to see a bunch of people, and

975
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 2: I know Crats and Cardinals camp, but I got to

976
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 2: see a bunch of the Cardinals too, so for me

977
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 2: it was like a home week. They were sad I

978
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 2: won't be able to see you tomorrow. Thank you for

979
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 2: everybody who came out and talked to me before the show.

980
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 2: More on the show maybe next time, but it was

981
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 2: great to see a bunch of the dudes that I

982
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 2: hadn't seen in a long time.

983
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 3: Weaver was great. Boonie is always great and gives us

984
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 3: that exclusive content. Cardinals Camp tomorrow, Mets Camp on Friday,