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Speaker 4: The old gez are back. We got agent fucking zero

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Speaker 1: If it's one man got more jobs than me. If

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Speaker 5: That's the hey, mine, they live in color I got

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Speaker 1: Listen, it's easy for you because you went from playing

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Speaker 5: the guys that I knew that retired, say, man, get

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Speaker 4: And Gil he's one of the only guys that got

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Speaker 2: We just don't know. We just.

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Speaker 4: We're in summer league right now, so talk about we're

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna look very good out here because everybody

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Speaker 5: In fact, all that draft shit, all that shit the

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Speaker 3: All that?

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Speaker 1: He was broken, He's not gonna be broke when I

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Speaker 2: We're playing one on one spots, shooting.

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Speaker 1: You got the number one two pick, you really putting

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Speaker 5: I think it's just a shiny toy syndrome. It's the

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Speaker 1: We got on the fatigue ship and I don't know

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Speaker 2: I was like, hey, listen, I feel you. I'm like

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Speaker 2: d waited and stuff right now. Y'all right, So I

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Speaker 1: I was like, man, I just tweaked my my growing.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how long I'm going to be. I

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Speaker 1: It was I was offended because the NBA, because you

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, yeah, we were just we just

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Speaker 5: I think they got it right this year. They got

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Speaker 1: Listen, they have they have enough stars to minimize, you know,

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Speaker 1: When we talk about the ninety two team, the only

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Speaker 2: All twelve players made it right.

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Speaker 1: So when you start looking later on, you're like, I'm

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Speaker 1: get it there. You you know, listen, I cool, you know,

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Speaker 2: We should. But you're gonna be the fifteen guy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I canna have Jimmy Butler's the

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Speaker 1: Kim Olajain came off the bench in the ninety sixteen.

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Speaker 1: That's what's coming off the bench thirty and.

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Speaker 3: Ten most dominant forces.

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Speaker 1: I only need a dude that's averaging five and five

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Speaker 5: This is the only thing I will say. This is

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Speaker 5: and I don't know if we are the most dominant

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Speaker 4: And if you're gonna flip to me, that's that's an

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Speaker 4: like they were almost changing into them, right, Like they

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Speaker 3: They're gonna beat.

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Speaker 4: Us on that all the time because they play together

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Speaker 3: That's my take.

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Speaker 4: And and and that's almost are almost almost transit into

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Speaker 1: But you think the game, you think it's gonna work

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Speaker 5: We just get to put five guys out there and

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Speaker 5: just say hey, your turn, Yes, your turn.

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Speaker 2: That's what that's what, that's.

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Speaker 1: How, that's how we did because one thing that they

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Speaker 1: So you know when we talk about they're taking over

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Speaker 2: It's just their foreigner fives. They're foreigner fives.

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Speaker 2: They're not they're not good enough to compete the NBA players. Right.

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Speaker 2: You got Luca who's just different, right, he's different.

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Speaker 1: Who's the second and third best player in your row,

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Speaker 1: ford it's there four and five that's stretching the floor

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Speaker 4: It's really like it's to me, it's no different than

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Speaker 4: our starting lineup, you know what I mean, Like for

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Speaker 3: Her ass doing that, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Like I never figured it out like d'An TONI had

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Speaker 4: like the like European basketball is getting way better, there's

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Speaker 4: no question, but we can't. We can't try to do

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Speaker 4: I've never figured it out my life. We'd be Game

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Speaker 4: And also we have a new starting lineup.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that ain't it. We're gonna get cut, yeah cook, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that ain't it. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But that's you know, that's kind of similar to what's

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Speaker 1: It's like when they have those fake arguments. If shot

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Speaker 2: Ship, We're gonna throw down sixteen thirty four, gonna three.

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Speaker 3: Three, we're gonna play. We're gonna play down coverage and

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Speaker 4: Man, listen, I'm glad you bring up Shack, most dominant

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Speaker 4: we had a defense for him, right like, we had

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Speaker 3: There was nothing you could do with it. There was

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 3: You didn't even know you got filed though. Yeah. I

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Speaker 4: One time my arm hurt and I was like, damn,

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Speaker 4: my bad baby, he goes you hear me, the ship

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Speaker 4: hurt my feelings. U talk about the off season, then,

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Speaker 4: so who who's the biggest winners and losers the off

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Speaker 4: your who's your biggest winners lose?

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Speaker 1: Philly's up there right Yeah? As a winner for sure,

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Speaker 2: Like winning for Philly was getting big fella healthy. That's

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, bringing Backbrave Kayla Martin.

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Speaker 2: Kayla Martin got the low who else New York Knicks?

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Speaker 1: New York Knicks is the biggest win because you got

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Speaker 1: a guy who is going to hit you for two

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Speaker 3: Six months and takes one. Are you doing that?

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Speaker 5: So listen, we had we had this conversation. I'm telling Mike,

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Speaker 5: there's no way and god damn hell that that man

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Speaker 5: something being said, whether they texted to him, and they

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Speaker 5: just take the letter home and.

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Speaker 2: Read it when you get home. Whatever hwghever it went.

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Speaker 2: Ain't no way in hell.

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Speaker 5: I ain't got to have all the sins. But I

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Speaker 5: man lead that money on the table Uless.

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Speaker 1: There's a conversation. I told Mike.

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Speaker 5: The motherfucker ain't gonna never have to worry about nothing

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Speaker 5: else again in his life. He won't be sitting courtside

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Speaker 5: like retired players. He'd be sitting in the owner box

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Speaker 5: when he's done. No fact, there's no way he takes

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Speaker 5: There's no way that takes because that's what I'm saying. One,

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Speaker 5: because you're you're signing it right now and two seventy

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Speaker 2: Is it one hundred and twenty million gap? Yes, go

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Speaker 1: And then you can say, all right, you know I'll

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Speaker 2: Some buildings in his name and something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my daughter daughter got damn it got foundation from

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Speaker 1: the you know because this.

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Speaker 2: Right there changed. They changed their franchise for the better.

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Speaker 3: Oh for sure. I mean it gives them all the

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Speaker 1: Bridges is going to take a pay cut as well

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Speaker 1: when it comes to his time.

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Speaker 2: This reminds me of This reminds me of that that

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Speaker 3: You know, when does it? I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know it really does.

442
00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,639
Speaker 4: We're the ones taking lesson.

443
00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,359
Speaker 1: Say that's crazy because we're trying to make that money

444
00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,960
Speaker 1: up right now, right now, go damn jobs, try to

445
00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,480
Speaker 1: make that ship up right now. God damn, you're not

446
00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:47,000
Speaker 1: to make up millions out.

447
00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:50,439
Speaker 2: You better. You better win.

448
00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:52,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the only way it's gonna feel good.

449
00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,120
Speaker 4: I get I get traded. We're gonna go story time

450
00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,960
Speaker 4: for a minute. I get I get traded the Wizards,

451
00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,959
Speaker 4: right I walk in there first time. He's coming back,

452
00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,480
Speaker 4: just getting healthy. And I know I played against Gill

453
00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,119
Speaker 4: ship Tone. I had a good team too, we were loaded.

454
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,240
Speaker 4: I remember that team. I didn't realize how good this

455
00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:09,960
Speaker 4: motherfucker was. Though til I walked in there and he

456
00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,200
Speaker 4: was killing everybody and letting everyone know about it. I said,

457
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,440
Speaker 4: this motherfucker is nuts. But he just did it like

458
00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,200
Speaker 4: on a regular basis, and our team was so loaded.

459
00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,960
Speaker 4: Talk to me about that team. Obviously that year went crazy,

460
00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,879
Speaker 4: but like your time in Washington and stuff like that,

461
00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:25,880
Speaker 4: talk about that a little.

462
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,760
Speaker 5: Bit before we get there. The ship talking, is that

463
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,440
Speaker 5: that grew up? Is that that playing in the park

464
00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,080
Speaker 5: with the homies, Like, that's just that's just the culture.

465
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,080
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. You know, when you because

466
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 5: everybody ain't accustomed today, everybody ain't used to that. But

467
00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,159
Speaker 5: that's that's like playing because that's how we played. We

468
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,560
Speaker 5: talked that ship. The only way you can back it up.

469
00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:43,199
Speaker 5: You can shut me up.

470
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:43,639
Speaker 3: You better win.

471
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, play with the old playing with the older dudes

472
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,639
Speaker 1: going out there, right, you know I used to, you know,

473
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,760
Speaker 1: Sunday mornings, wake up with my dad six am and

474
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 1: have the older dudes go out there. And then from

475
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 1: from the start they just talking tracks.

476
00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,600
Speaker 5: Nobody talked ship like a motherfucker on the seventies and

477
00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,920
Speaker 5: eight motherfuckers talk that ship. Nobody talks shit that a

478
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,200
Speaker 5: motherfucker from seventies and eighties.

479
00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 1: So so what I learned was this when when it's

480
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,359
Speaker 1: when you're in season, we have a pecking order, right,

481
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 1: if you're the best player on the team, are you

482
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 1: really being challenged? The only way you're gonna get challenged

483
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,360
Speaker 1: if you start talking shit, pissing the person off. Now

484
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,400
Speaker 1: you have to give me your agent. So that means

485
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,159
Speaker 1: you have to you have to make me better, right,

486
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:26,879
Speaker 1: because if you just let me just go and do

487
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,159
Speaker 1: what I do, and I'm I'm not taking practice serious

488
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,920
Speaker 1: because it's really not for me, right, It's we're gonna

489
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 1: run these plays that we're not gonna do in the game, right,

490
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You know, because I set

491
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,120
Speaker 1: a pig and you know, passing the branding. No, we're

492
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:39,679
Speaker 1: not gonna do that, right, It's gonna be fucking one

493
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 1: four fly. So from there it's like, hey man, Larry Hughes,

494
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 1: you ain't shit.

495
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 2: You can't stop me?

496
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 1: Now, Larry got Oh what hey, coach put me on

497
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,119
Speaker 1: another team. Now I get the best defender guarding me.

498
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,640
Speaker 1: Now I get to sharpen, I get to sharpen my tools.

499
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 1: And that's what that was It was just I was

500
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,359
Speaker 1: just talking shit just to keep everybody going, so I

501
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 1: can get everybody's best study everybody. I like that you

502
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 1: laughing at the one for a flat.

503
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 3: Right, It's right, look it out there. Damn, don't check

504
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 3: your bodies. Give me sixty five.

505
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 1: Used to pull up to the park in d C

506
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,639
Speaker 1: and get it, get it popping with the park, to

507
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 1: put up to the park at.

508
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 3: D C and just get the hooping. Talk about that

509
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,360
Speaker 3: three man you lady Jersey.

510
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 2: On the ground. Oh we was Seattle. Yeah, so it

511
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 2: was Seattle.

512
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 1: So I already this was this was after the Olympic

513
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 1: ding and I said on record that I was going

514
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,399
Speaker 1: to give fifty to Phoenix and.

515
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 3: UH Blazers for what reasons? Give them the people at home.

516
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 1: Okay, I couldn't go against coach K because it was

517
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 1: in college anymore. So then Tony was still coaching, and

518
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,879
Speaker 1: Mike mcmill was a name Miller. He was coaching, right,

519
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 1: So those are the two teams, Like, all right, y'all

520
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 1: coaching on that team? Got damn, they ain't have ship

521
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 1: to do with this, But I couldn't. I didn't know

522
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 1: where to place this anger I had. So they gonna

523
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 1: get it right, they gonna get it.

524
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 2: So we go to we go to Portland first, horrible.

525
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 2: Oh I sunk that ship up right. I had the

526
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 2: game winner air ball.

527
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 1: I did a floater air ball the floater right, Uh

528
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 1: skip baitas them talking ship like.

529
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 2: Oh, he said he's gonna so we're playing Seattle the

530
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 2: next night. Caught fire. Oh yeah, I caught fire in Seattle.

531
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: And then hit the game winner and then basically took

532
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 1: my jersey off and said again to the fen ladies

533
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 1: in the middle, I'm here.

534
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 2: I'm here, baby, I'm here. Laid it down, had.

535
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 1: The gu the wife beat onybody be man, Wow, I

536
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 1: remember the beat y'all.

537
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 5: Motherfuckers just loaded Corab Butler. We had a nice web Antoine.

538
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 5: James and Wade used to hate playing against your ass.

539
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,199
Speaker 5: Day used to hate playing against you, playing against him

540
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 5: because d Wade hated playing against you.

541
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 2: So so I don't know if you ever heard the story.

542
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 1: So the beginning of the season started right, this is like, uh,

543
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 1: it was after the O four that because he was

544
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 1: on the Old four team and they lost, right, and

545
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 1: we're coming into the Old four O five season, and

546
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 1: everybody's talking about the heat, you know, shot went over there,

547
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 1: and I said, oh, yeah, we'll just treat d Wade

548
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: like they did Olympics.

549
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 2: Just play a zone. Oh ship, right, they didn't think

550
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 2: nothing of it. Ship.

551
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 1: You know how you're looking at the scoreboards, like because

552
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 1: like Miami's coming.

553
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 2: Close, like we got three games, like forty forty five

554
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 2: forty five? Amen?

555
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 1: Did he circle the date? Because this is the way

556
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 1: he's coming towards us and he's called the hotel. Hey

557
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 1: it's Dwayne. Hey man, listen, this is a gal Hey.

558
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 2: That stuff.

559
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen it about two weeks ago. Yeah,

560
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: miscic screwed that. I ain't say it like that, right,

561
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: I just just let you know, hook up like who warm.

562
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 3: Up lind.

563
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 1: On demon Mode. I was like, I don't know if

564
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 1: motherfucker's warm up like this, but he don't look like it.

565
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 2: Don't look like he. That phone call helped.

566
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: And I remember at halftime Larry Hughes like, hey, if

567
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna start talking about players.

568
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 2: You guard him. I had noted, because when he's doing

569
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 2: and when he doing out there, and you got he

570
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 2: taking it personal.

571
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: He said not that that was the last time I

572
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: ever said anything about a player.

573
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 2: My record against y'all with three and sixteen. Damn yeah, yeah,

574
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 2: And I think I got.

575
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 1: That when I got the Orlando and one of those games.

576
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 1: They even went to me for a game when that

577
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: ship was crazy. But Rouse was drawing that ship up.

578
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: D Wade was saying it was in Miami. I never

579
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 1: forget Rouse was drawing that ship up. He Wade was

580
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 1: sitting right there around you. The ball up to go

581
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: to me and d Wade and looked up. Shit, I

582
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: looked up too. Well, okay, shout of nervous in the motherfucker.

583
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 2: But I made it.

584
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: I don't think Antoine Jamison was thinking I was gonna

585
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: shoot the motherfucker.

586
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 5: He thought I was a decoy. They threw the ball

587
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 5: to me and he just stood behind me. Just game winner,

588
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 5: game over.

589
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: We won.

590
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 5: But I don't think he really thought I was gonna

591
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 5: shoot the motherfucker because the way and that motherfucker, let

592
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:21,959
Speaker 5: me tell you somethbody d way quiet.

593
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: But he the closest thing to Bruce Ley. I know

594
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 1: you talk about the motherfucker taste their own blood and

595
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: go crazy on your ass. That's the type of motherfucker.

596
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 2: The way it is.

597
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 5: He the closest got damn thing to Bruce Ley. You

598
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 5: push that button, he tastes his own blood. He goes crazy.

599
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 5: Now I'm complete opposite. I taste my own blood. You

600
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 5: got to take me out. I can't play.

601
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 2: I lost it.

602
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: I'm on some street shit. Now it's over with, you

603
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But he was the complete opposite,

604
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: and I always admired the way he was able to

605
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: control his emotions when he got mad or frustrated and

606
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,199
Speaker 1: play better. Because some people get mad and frustrated, they

607
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 1: play worse. You gotta take them out. You ain't gonna

608
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 1: get nothing else from them. The rest of the night.

609
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 2: That was me.

610
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: I was very self aware of who I was. You

611
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. If I get mad and frustrated,

612
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: I can't make a shot, I can't do shit right.

613
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,479
Speaker 1: I was supposed to be y'all teammate. Really, two thousand

614
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: and three, I'm a free agent. So I'm a free

615
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: agent and it's Lamar Oldham the number one free agent.

616
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 2: I'm number two.

617
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: So you guys already had d Wade, So pat Riley

618
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: was coming after me, and they were saying, we're going

619
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: to play you guys at the one and two. So

620
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 1: I have a back court and me and him at

621
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: the one and two. And because they want to try

622
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: the waging at the one, we can put you at

623
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: the two. We can go vice versa.

624
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:30,959
Speaker 3: Right.

625
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 2: So, but pat Riley said, I don't.

626
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: I don't feel comfortable paying a young guy fifty five

627
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: million that who hasn't proven himself, because to be honest,

628
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 1: I only played about a total one hundred some games

629
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: my first three years, right forty the first game, then

630
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 1: eighty two. So he was like, I don't, I don't

631
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: feel comfortable paying him this this type of money. So

632
00:27:54,200 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: the salary cap went up. B Scott Brian Russell out

633
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: of this deal, and UH Wizard's money went up to

634
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 1: about sixty four to sixty five. I ain't even negotiating

635
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: no more. I said, I'm taking it. I'm taking it

636
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 1: because when I was in when I was at Golden State,

637
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: I literally asked for after my rookie season, right, seven

638
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 1: years twenty four million, and they said no, they laughed

639
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: at seven years twenty four, they laughed, twenty four Get

640
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: on up out of here.

641
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 4: But by the way, that's gonna be the greatest pay

642
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 4: raise in NBA history, going from six hundred grand man.

643
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 5: Basically that man. Talk about that shit. You were for

644
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 5: six hundred grand and Wizards. What was how much that that.

645
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 6: First year was eight It was like eight point nine million.

646
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 6: It was think about eight point nine million right now.

647
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 6: That's frecking and it's crazy. This is ridiculous because you

648
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 6: you we were talking point nine million. Just so people

649
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 6: at home understand this, it is yes, twenty twenty four.

650
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 6: Eight point nine million. Back then was a lot of

651
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 6: fucking yeah. No, no, But but in retrospect we had.

652
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 3: To put things.

653
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: We'll put it even better. Yeah, my free agent year

654
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: and my my max right. I signed for the six

655
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: year sixty five right back then there was seven year deals.

656
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant in the max player no, no, no, no, no,

657
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: seventy nine million. Really wow, they were on the seventy

658
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: nine million dollars. So this is how my deal was

659
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: supposed to be. Because they couldn't afford me because of

660
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,479
Speaker 1: the bird rights. I had to sign a one year

661
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: deal for four point nine to come back, and then

662
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: I had a seven year, seventy nine million dollar.

663
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 2: Deal on the table that Joe Smith joint.

664
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: But when we crunch the numbers, it would have been

665
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: like an eight year eighty something million dollar deal. By

666
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,959
Speaker 1: the time the money matched up, if I went to Washington,

667
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: I would have been out signing the max if I

668
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: was playing how I was supposed to be playing. So yeah,

669
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: I don't know about them numbers that was in that

670
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: mid level exception. That was the conversation I have about that.

671
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: That man level exception now is about one hundred twenty.

672
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 4: That's a damn And like I to tell you, like

673
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 4: when we're going through it with for us, it was,

674
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 4: you know, usually had those a lot of those guys

675
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 4: in that forty nine, forty two to forty nine and

676
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 4: then one or one MAX guy.

677
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 3: Now it's just completely different.

678
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 4: I mean, like if you put up things in like

679
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 4: right now, they'd be like a guy getting the second

680
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 4: round pick making six hundred grand the next year getting

681
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 4: forty two million.

682
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Pat, that's what's crazy.

683
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 5: Bam just signed one sixty six extension three years, three years,

684
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 5: he's on his second one.

685
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: He will re up again.

686
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 5: By the time he's twenty nine thirty, he would be

687
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 5: just hitting his prime and he'll go and I don't

688
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 5: know what the money gonna be Like, Man.

689
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Let's talk about it.

690
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 3: Let's talk about the game.

691
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. The amount of money. You know,

692
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: the boy got his own money. Hey, I was looking

693
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: like we looking at them the first round. Did you

694
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: see what they had? Wimby making ninety.

695
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 4: Seven million, ninety seven million be the first round the

696
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 4: first year of was Max Steel.

697
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, his rookie Ded.

698
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 3: Pollows. Pollows was fifty five.

699
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 2: Oh.

700
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 4: I don't want to talk about his money, but it's

701
00:30:56,120 --> 00:31:01,959
Speaker 4: fifty five million. Fifty five yeah, yeah, I don't want

702
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 4: to sorry by talking about your mind.

703
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: But that's just the different like the back then first

704
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: the first round, like Kwame brown in.

705
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 2: My draft, thirteen million guaranteed for the number one pick.

706
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 4: Coach, I was the fifth pick in the draft, packing

707
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 4: two point three. That's the twenty ninth pick, now twenty nine.

708
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 4: That's the motherfucking fifty five Brownie.

709
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: Brownie's making the same as what the fifty We talked

710
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: about that.

711
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 5: We talked about it earlier because second round picks couldn't

712
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 5: even sign four year deals. But I didn't even know,

713
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 5: and I still didn't know that was possible till I

714
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 5: seen Brownie do it. I still did the first time I.

715
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: Saw that the last pick last year signed a four year,

716
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: seven point nine h Chris Christ Chris. Yeah, there was

717
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: like three players last year that had big money. This

718
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: year even this year, there's there's like three players. So

719
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: somebody had a eight.

720
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 3: Pars a bunch of them.

721
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 5: Lou Dort had a weird deal. Yeah, it was like

722
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 5: a six year, one point something million dollars. Now I

723
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 5: try to be funny. It was some weird ship. I'm

724
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 5: saying all these deals. I don't even understand how this

725
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 5: shit worked no more. Yeah, you trying to be funny

726
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 5: to kill what was? It was a weird ship.

727
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: Why it sounded like like minimum for like more than

728
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: one year or some ship like that. So it's all

729
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: these different deals that they're doing out here that I've

730
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: never seen this ship before.

731
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 2: You know what, It wasn't me. It was Carlos Boozer.

732
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: So I opened the flood gate for second rounders to

733
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: have more than a two year deal, to get the

734
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: three year deal.

735
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 4: You change, You changed the game on it, because what

736
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 4: it did was it forced GMS to rethink the second

737
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 4: round guys. And then what happened was in Houston, I

738
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 4: think it was Daryl Morey. Actually it might have been

739
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 4: where he started basically saying, Okay, we'll drafting the second round,

740
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 4: but we're gonna do a four year deal and it's gonna.

741
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 3: Be option, option, option, option, options.

742
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 4: So they wanted to go get talented guys at a

743
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 4: million dollars, but at the second round pick, you're forced

744
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 4: to basically do it. If I'm a second round pick

745
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 4: and I'm trying to make my bread and make my

746
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 4: living in this, I'm gonna give you four years, four million,

747
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 4: but we got options every year.

748
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 3: You're in jail for a four year year. I mean.

749
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: I got them. I know, I see some weird like that.

750
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 3: I'm just giving. I don't know if that's exactly I'm

751
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 3: just saying, but that's in that area.

752
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 2: But didn't do it options because they didn't want.

753
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 3: They didn't want what happened with him.

754
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 4: If that's something blow up and then that can't afforda can't.

755
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: Afforda point like what happened with his he did to you.

756
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: So what happened is after that, here comes Carlos Boozer,

757
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: where they had, uh, they added a third year, so

758
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: Carlos Boozer, so they was like the third year gives

759
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: them the bird rights, right, So what Carlos Boozer that

760
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: they had a three.

761
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 2: Year deal, team option on the third that Cleveland, yep, yes.

762
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: So he was balling. So his I think his wife

763
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: at the time, and said that we really want to

764
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: be here. We love this city. Right, we know that

765
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: you know he has one more year. We're ready to

766
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: sign right now. Right, you say you've got twenty four

767
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: million dollars for us, So yeah, let's do this, right.

768
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: She was already negotiating with Utah if they if they

769
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: let you out, we got this as soon as there's

770
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: a all right, we're just gonna we're gonna let you out.

771
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 2: I heard that, I heard do it. They're gonna do it.

772
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 3: It was good.

773
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,479
Speaker 4: But think about it, though, guilt tell you. If they

774
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 4: offered them four years at that time, you probably would

775
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 4: have taken it in the second round.

776
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: After my my rookie season, that's what after my rookie season,

777
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: average ten and I was like, yeah, I do seven year,

778
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: twenty four million ship.

779
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 3: Listen, it's life. If it's the numbers. Numbers changed, but

780
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 3: the security is about.

781
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 2: Back then, we would have took that.

782
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: It was easy to say now, but back then we

783
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: just paid all my money on the escalator. But when

784
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: I got drafted, but I thought I was for sure

785
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: anywhere from eleven to twenty something, So calculate, I can

786
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: afford that my first year was four hundred thousand, and

787
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: I spent half the ship on that big dumb ass

788
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: h too hum remember that ship, and the other half

789
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: I spent gasing that dumb ship. That ship was the

790
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 1: worst gas cousin list. I seen the dumbest idea half

791
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: h another two hundred gas and that ship. I couldn't

792
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: go to the grocery store, but I spent half a gallon.

793
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 2: On that month.

794
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: I was like, when you're talking about poor NBA, PlayListen, listen,

795
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: I see I didn't know I can order room service

796
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: and just charge it to the room. And then I

797
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: realized I have to pay for that, or I can

798
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: just charge it to other people. Rum right, I'll be like, yo,

799
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: this is Larry said, this is Larry Hughes. But I'm

800
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: in this room. Can you get me two hamburgers? Like

801
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: it took me a minute. Other than that, I was

802
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: waiting for people to push their.

803
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: Plate thousands me get that half a burger? Cut that,

804
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 2: and I was I was eating like that because I

805
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 2: didn't have no money.

806
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 3: Man, you people on your escalator, p dimn.

807
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 2: I lost that gambling trying to double up ship. I

808
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 2: got one hundred and twenty dollars, like.

809
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 5: Oh, I need to last his whole trees to be

810
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 5: shooting dice like a motherfucker with that for damn boy,

811
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 5: shake and roll. Hey, listen, you can always tell how

812
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 5: poor motherfucker grew up by the way they eat, by

813
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 5: the kind of shit they eat.

814
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: I swear to God, I knew the way.

815
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 5: Was poke because all that motherfucker was chicken fingers, the fry.

816
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 5: That motherfucker did not want a vegetable when he first

817
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 5: got to the Miami Heat, regardless of how rich he

818
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 5: is now. I knew that motherfucker with Poe, he never

819
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 5: ate a fucking vegetable. All I ate was chicken fingers.

820
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 5: I mean all I ate was chicken wings. He all

821
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 5: he ate chicken fingers. You know, I had some bad

822
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,959
Speaker 5: ass eating habits ninety sandwich, I eat all that book.

823
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 2: I was eating leftover room service. Man, he left over

824
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 2: room service. It was left over.

825
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: I went for everybody to push they plates out, and

826
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: I'm just looking through the halls about eleven twelve.

827
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 2: Because I didn't. I didn't know I can order. I

828
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 2: was like, I didn't have no money, and all the

829
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 2: plain food.

830
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm taking all them fruit and vegetables because I

831
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: got to survive, like I didn't. I literally like, I

832
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: spent all my money on that Escalate five TVs with

833
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: the four twelves in the back, the little fake cubits Ofconia,

834
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: big ass initial chain.

835
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 2: Right. So I gave my dad some money.

836
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 1: Now think about everything I'm saying, and didn't get three

837
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: hundred thousand, so I so I had to.

838
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 2: I had so.

839
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: Jason Richardson vouch for me so they can give me

840
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: a two year deal. That two year deal helped me

841
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: because that money we got to calculate. So I had

842
00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 1: after I picked my apartment, and I had four hundred

843
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: dollars to live.

844
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: On after rent Jesus, that's gas.

845
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 4: Food for the month, after get girlfriend, two dogs, after

846
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 4: get out there getting buckets on four hundred dollars.

847
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 2: That's why I said I lived.

848
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: When I say I lived at the Arena ship, I

849
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: lived there.

850
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 2: This is the best. This is the best house I had.

851
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 2: I got all of them bars, gatorade, water. Literally, I

852
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 2: was all that I got a girlfriend I'm bringing to you.

853
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 2: It's all me.

854
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 3: It's all mean sweetheartier you mean twenty thousand square?

855
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 2: But places you really is NBA? You know what I mean?

856
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: That's Troy Jamison.

857
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: That man. It seems like just yesterday, man.

858
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 4: Talk about talk about this year champs. Obviously Boston. You

859
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 4: had some things to say about Boston.

860
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 2: What do you think.

861
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: They were the better team? Hands down? Did they play

862
00:37:55,880 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: championship basketball? No, they had an advantage they you're talking about.

863
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: They were bigger than Dallas Dallas and played the defense

864
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 1: that could have stopped them, and they spent ninety percent

865
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: of the time just checking threes. Horrible threes too, Like

866
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: like Tatum's my dude, and he was frustrating the ship

867
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: out of me picking you got one?

868
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 2: You got was it kim Kimber? On you? Kimber?

869
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: Was it a mexicler? You're taking side step jumpers against him?

870
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's what that is? A one full

871
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: flat if I've seen one. But you got one, dude,

872
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: you get him to take a side Like, if you're

873
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: gonna take the side jumper, dude on a smaller guy,

874
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: don't get the big dude on you. To shoot the

875
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: same three. He can challenge your shot. It was just

876
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: little things that in the basketball world, it just didn't

877
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 1: make sense. Right, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna shoot

878
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 1: jumpers againsty'all.

879
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 2: Y'all can challenge that. I'm gonna take you guys off

880
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 2: the dribble.

881
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: The smaller guy Mario Chomas, Okay, let's sey I do

882
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: some size, I'm not gonna do it. Pick a roll

883
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: to take a jumper on you and I and that's

884
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: all I said. I'm like, yo, just driving it.

885
00:38:58,320 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 2: But they got no.

886
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: Nobody this Luca back there, take him off the dribbo

887
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: just jumped. They're not gonna do nothing. So it seemed

888
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: like they made the game very, very hard.

889
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 3: Do they have a chance to run it back next year?

890
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 2: Not shooting fifty fifty something three is going nineteen for

891
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 2: fifty naw.

892
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: That's I'm gonnall, you're not gonna do that. You can't

893
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: do that against him b You're not gonna be able

894
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 1: to do that against jo Kisch. You're not gonna be

895
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: able to do that against a healthy Bucks because Johann

896
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: is just trying to get to the basket. So you're

897
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: sitting there just chucking threes all through past. Yeah, he's coming.

898
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 5: What I will say is this and what I what

899
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 5: I've grown to know about Joe Missoula, and this is

900
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 5: me giving Boston credit. He is an analytical monster when

901
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 5: it comes down to the analytics. I mean how tedious

902
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 5: he is. I had the chance to have a conversation

903
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 5: with him in the finals about the defensive side of

904
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 5: things and how they decided to guard Luca and how

905
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 5: they decided to guard Kyrie, and he went into the

906
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 5: analytics of where they shoot from different positions on the

907
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 5: floor and how every single time they made sure they

908
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 5: pushed those pushed the guys to those spots that made

909
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 5: them the most uncomfortable. Now, offensively, I don't know this

910
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 5: for sure because we didn't have offensive conversations, but I

911
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 5: gotta believe he's just as tedious and he's just as

912
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 5: analytical when it comes to the offensive side of things.

913
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 5: I don't agree with the way they play offensively, because

914
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 5: that's just not my style of play. But I think analytically,

915
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 5: I think there's something there for them and that's why

916
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 5: they play the way they play.

917
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

918
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 5: I think there's a method to Joe's madness, I said,

919
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 5: I will say I could.

920
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: Have saved him a lot of film nights right when

921
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 1: I'll watch the YouTube, was like, I agree with you though,

922
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 1: because we've been able to combat that.

923
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 5: And I'm not gonna talk about how, but we've been

924
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 5: able to combat that. But I will say I think

925
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 5: there is a method to his madness. Yeah, probably, but

926
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 5: I could have saved him some straight hours. I'm going

927
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:52,280
Speaker 5: to YouTube.

928
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, this is gonna be a full old

929
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: It's about to be full old. Yeah, we knew that

930
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: was going to be a four to one. Yeah, well,

931
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: there's no way that they can play Luca and just

932
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: Kyrie offensively the whole time. Right, you got Derrick Jones

933
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 1: and you got PJ. Washington in the corner waiting to

934
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: get the ball, shooting threes. Yeah, that ain't gonna That

935
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 1: ain't gonna win this series?

936
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 3: Does does Clay? Then? Speaking of Dallas, does Clay didn't

937
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 3: make them better?

938
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 1: Like that Clay style?

939
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 2: How does that?

940
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: See what we are worried about? How does that jail?

941
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna give right now, I'm gonna give Jason

942
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: Kidd the credit. That's what we said, You're gonna give

943
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: him the credit to put in some type.

944
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 2: Of plays for Clay.

945
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: But Clay has been used to movements, chasing, run around,

946
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: coming off doubles.

947
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 2: Right, you gotta treat him like Rip Hamilton what j

948
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 2: Kidd had.

949
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: If you don't treat him like that, and he's just

950
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: sitting in the corner, just waiting for a shot, yeah,

951
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: so you don't make him look bad.

952
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,439
Speaker 5: So my question is, can you win with those guys

953
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 5: that Lucas, the guys like the Hardens who say going

954
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 5: into assist them, I am a consistent Can you win

955
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 5: a championship with those kind of guys? Because that is

956
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 5: the question right now that everybody wants to know the anstitude.

957
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 5: Can you win a championship with those kind of guys?

958
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 2: To me?

959
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 4: And I want you to answer that because me, when

960
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 4: you talk about that Clay like, it's gonna be way

961
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 4: more of an adjustment for Clay than it is for Dallas, Like,

962
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 4: oh the balls he's used to pass chase someone like,

963
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 4: he's gonna be like being uncomfortable with being uncomfortable. You

964
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 4: think that's That's what I'm getting at. But like he

965
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 4: just talked about it, he had Derek joneson and PJ.

966
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 4: Washington both really good players, but Clay is not usually

967
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 4: just sit in the corner being and catching shoot dude,

968
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 4: and you're not gonna to me. It's the hardest thing

969
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 4: for They put a lot of pressure on Jay Kidd

970
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 4: because the way they make the finals was putting those

971
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 4: two motherfuckers in ball screens and creating everything for everybody else.

972
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 2: Used to that.

973
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 1: I think with Luca it's there's just certain players that

974
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 1: you have to like like a Magic Johnson, Like think

975
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 1: of Magic Johnson. With someone like Luca, right, the ball

976
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: is in his hand, he's a bigger guard. You can't

977
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: go small with his talent, right, Going small hurts him. Yeah, yeah,

978
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 1: he You you can't have Kyrie at the two, Klay

979
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: six seven at the three, then you got six eight

980
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: at the four.

981
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 2: That's not how you win with this guy.

982
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 3: You have to go big.

983
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: You have to go with seven foot sec because now

984
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 1: who has to guard him? Yeah, you can't hide him.

985
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: Now he gets to pick a part at Now when

986
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 1: he's coming down the lane, he gets to do whatever

987
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: he wants. You have to have a big line up

988
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: with Luca, right, That's the only way Luca. When you

989
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: put smaller guys around Luca.

990
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 2: It hurts him.

991
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: He's gonna get his numbers. But that's not how you win.

992
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: You gotta have big shoot guards. Like his shooting guard

993
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 1: should be six eight, you know what I mean. He

994
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 1: needs a big shooting guard, big three. Like they're sitting there,

995
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: they can all switch, yes, and everybody posts it. Now,

996
00:43:54,400 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: now you're forced to say, all right, Derek and Drew, Yeah,

997
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to sit here.

998
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 2: We're gonna have to put Tatum at the one, Brown

999
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 2: at the two.

1000
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: Right, We're gonna have to have light ups like that

1001
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 1: against Luca because the guys are too small, because the

1002
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: shooting guard is six eight and the three is six,

1003
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: so we can't.

1004
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 5: Now it's the luxury Boston hats that they were able

1005
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 5: to switch those picking rolls, and Dallas wasn't able to

1006
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 5: take advantage of that. I mean, you're switching dere White,

1007
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 5: You switching motherfucking I'm gotting goddamn brain freeze, Drew switching

1008
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 5: Drew onto him, and you're not getting anything out of

1009
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 5: those triggers because the guys are not able to post

1010
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 5: those guys up.

1011
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: And now you just spread the floor. Now, White, yea,

1012
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: when they put tatum on on Gaffer and they didn't

1013
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: just throw the ball down to gafferd just five straight

1014
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: times just to see what's gonna happen. Right, even he

1015
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: kicked the ball out of mounds, it didn't matter, just

1016
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: like you're gonna put Oh no, we're gonna let's let's

1017
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: let's try to see what happens. But the fact that

1018
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: he's just sitting there. Minnesota tried to throw the ball

1019
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: to Rudy down there on a couple of times that

1020
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: it ain't go that.

1021
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 2: Sh it ain't go right.

1022
00:44:54,840 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: That's the most frustrating in the world, right when you

1023
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: see the mismatch and then you throw it back, you

1024
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: throw it down there like, oh man, it's gonna be a.

1025
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 2: Long night, bro.

1026
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: I mean, because you want to be able to exploit

1027
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: that somewhat just to a degree. Yeah, he doesn't have

1028
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:12,959
Speaker 1: to score up sixty down there, but if.

1029
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 4: You can make a cop you want to make an adjustment,

1030
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 4: Jacob enough to make Dallas have to think about hold up.

1031
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 3: Because here's the deal. The coaches.

1032
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 4: The coaches are the biggest overreactors in America. Yes, so

1033
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 4: so if you do it one time, right, fuck, we

1034
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 4: can't do that no more. Instead of instead of just

1035
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 4: picking their poison. Okay, well, Rudy Gobert gonna have to

1036
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 4: have fifty. They'll never do that. No, Like to me

1037
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 4: in my life, I'm like, we're cool with this thing.

1038
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 4: But they're the biggest overactors in the world. We just

1039
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 4: get the rude one time he lays it in, They're like, damn,

1040
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 4: we can't do that. Under under under under under.

1041
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 5: And now that we talk about some of the things

1042
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 5: that you have to be cool with, that's one of

1043
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 5: the things that we talk about with that we're playing

1044
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 5: against Boston. Be cool with them making a contested three. Yeah,

1045
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 5: be cool with them making a contested three. It's okay,

1046
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 5: don't overreact. You had your hand there, you was in

1047
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 5: his face. That's a thirty five excuse me, twenty five percent,

1048
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 5: twenty five percent shot.

1049
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: Be cool with making that. But they got to make

1050
00:45:58,280 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: him for full quarters. I mean, you gotta do it

1051
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: to take away to They gotta make contested ones for

1052
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:03,439
Speaker 1: forty eight minutes.

1053
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 4: You want to take away to open. There's gotta be adjustments.

1054
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 4: But if you're making major adjustments in the playoff series,

1055
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 4: you're gonna get fucking boned anyway.

1056
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 2: Well, once again.

1057
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: Now you're talking about major adjustments in the playoffs series.

1058
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: Let's go back to the conversation that we had earlier

1059
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: habits because the playoffs where your habits are revealed, sure

1060
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: and lack of are revealed. We talk about Joker and

1061
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: we talked about Embiid, and I say that, yes, Joka

1062
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: is great, and yes you start your team with Joker

1063
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: if you're picking the team today. But I said, it's

1064
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: only because Joker has better habits. If you're asking me

1065
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: who is the better fucking talent, I'm going with in

1066
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: b seven days a weeknd twice on Sunday, and me

1067
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: and Mike was arguing for this shift.

1068
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 2: About an hour. But that's what you got. But that's

1069
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 2: but that's the but that's the argument. Right, one is

1070
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,439
Speaker 2: super talented, one has better habits? Right, Who you starting

1071
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 2: your team with? Right now? If I had to pick one,

1072
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 2: you gotta win a championship.

1073
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: If I got to win a championship, I'm gonna go

1074
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 1: with Joki, right or The reason is Embiid is no

1075
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: different than some of them most talented players we've ever seen.

1076
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 2: Right, They're so talented that they don't they don't jump

1077
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 2: into the next.

1078
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: Category right, Why do I need to get in top

1079
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: top shape if I'm averaging thirty five and.

1080
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 2: Fifteen that's what we were talking. I mean, you think

1081
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 2: you ever figure it out?

1082
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: No, it's too easy form wishing for the mont he's

1083
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: I'm hoping for.

1084
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 3: He's sitting there, you're making sixty five million and getting buckets.

1085
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 1: I mean just just seeing what he's capable of. I

1086
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: would love to see what that would look like.

1087
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 3: You figured it out.

1088
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 2: And that's that's just me a fan. You know the game.

1089
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 3: We all agree that.

1090
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 2: And this is when we say this out loud, they

1091
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 2: think we're hated.

1092
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 1: He like when I said, Jannis, if you got it

1093
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: back to the basket post up playing it, you know

1094
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: how great you will be, like you averaging thirty two

1095
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 1: to just running down hill just after if you learned

1096
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 1: how to play this game.

1097
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 2: Oh my gun man, your engine man.

1098
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: My last forty five career, my last four or five years,

1099
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: was based off getting rid of motherfucker's bad habits and

1100
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,240
Speaker 1: they got paid. And go down the list of guys

1101
00:47:58,360 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 1: that got.

1102
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 5: Paid that came to Miami that will undrafted or on

1103
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 5: their way out of the league, and we're figured out

1104
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 5: how to change their fucking habits and they got paid

1105
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 5: like this fucking has.

1106
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 2: Would then beat.

1107
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: It's more like you just look at little things like

1108
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 1: like there was a picture of there was a video

1109
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: of Yokis playing street ball.

1110
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 2: Oh I saw that, and you're saying, like, look in

1111
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 2: shape he is? I saw that. U n B. Bro.

1112
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:21,879
Speaker 2: If you put down I don't mean to be rude.

1113
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: You putting down in the full Hamburgers before the game,

1114
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: you eating all this bullshit before it like getting healthy

1115
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: by dude, right, like I said, But him being healthy

1116
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: is part of their fucking reasons why he can't reach

1117
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 1: his potential. And part of the reason why he can't

1118
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: reach his potential and he's not healthy is because of

1119
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: his habits.

1120
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 2: It's just his habits with.

1121
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 4: With the what where the game is now? And all

1122
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 4: this young town coming to who you starting your team

1123
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 4: with right now?

1124
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 2: How young are we going?

1125
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 3: I mean just that the league sits right now, players

1126
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 3: in it, you get, you get one player.

1127
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 2: M ship uh, I'm gonna go win by great.

1128
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: The reason I hard to argue that, the reason I

1129
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: like with Wimby is as as a general manager, you

1130
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: don't have to be brilliant, No, you don't. You know

1131
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: what I mean, you don't really have to be smart.

1132
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: You're allowed to make a few mistakes drafted. Same thing

1133
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 1: with someone like Jokics, right, because he can pass, he

1134
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: can post up, he can do a lot of things.

1135
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: If I pick him moving forward, I can make a

1136
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: couple of mistakes and his talent can adjust to it.

1137
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 2: That's the thing.

1138
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, the thing about Jokic, I mean, you can go

1139
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 4: on free agency and get guys that players that other

1140
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 4: teams don't really value for the low and what he's

1141
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 4: gonna do is get them paid. Because they're gonna come

1142
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 4: in there and he's gonna fucking dot him up. They're

1143
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 4: gonna be a lot better. And also they're gonna get

1144
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 4: the money to go somewhere else. But they can continue.

1145
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 4: It's a revolving door, all right, who's next? Oh you

1146
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 4: didn't like him over there, but he shot thirty eight? Okay,

1147
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 4: you're gonna be back cut. You can play through you.

1148
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 4: I mean, Wemby's Women's a good show. I mean, it's

1149
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 4: hard to argue that.

1150
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 2: It's just it's just it's easier from if I have

1151
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 2: to go like guards or like.

1152
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: I'll say, probably a man, right, because he has that

1153
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 1: besides the marketing, with the charisma and stuff he has.

1154
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 2: That what a coach needs from a star player. Never

1155
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 2: never seems like he's rattled.

1156
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: Yes, right, So no matter if you're down O three

1157
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: in the playoff game, oh two, just lost by thirty

1158
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: when he talks, you don't know if he lost or won.

1159
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: You know, you know, a little rough today, but we're

1160
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 1: gonna get him. Already told him we're gonna get him.

1161
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: Were coming back like and you know you need that

1162
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: type of player's confidence, man, because you know we've been

1163
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: in locker rooms where you can you look at the

1164
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: star player and he just.

1165
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 2: Yes.

1166
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 4: Man.

1167
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 5: I love the fact that he's changed the the mindset.

1168
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 5: He's changed how we look at the Minnesota Timberwolves. He's

1169
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 5: changed that. I think they somewhat as a team collectively

1170
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 5: have embodied his attitude and his personality just a little bit.

1171
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,240
Speaker 5: And I think that's helped the way we view Minnesota.

1172
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 5: We don't view him as the losers, and obviously they've

1173
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 5: been to the playoffs a couple of years, but we

1174
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 5: don't view them as the lose that we used to

1175
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 5: view them as. And we also don't view them at SOLF.

1176
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 5: Can they view them like that.

1177
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 3: Can they speaking of that?

1178
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 2: Man?

1179
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 3: Can they win it with their seeing their team right now?

1180
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 2: To be honest, it's some of their pieces are.

1181
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 3: Still young, and oh they got nice pieces.

1182
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: It's it's just gonna be I think it's I think

1183
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,439
Speaker 1: it's the same thing with Boston. I want to see

1184
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: everyone develop a little bit more and see what they

1185
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: look like twenty twenty six, and man is going to

1186
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 1: be twenty four, right, you.

1187
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 2: Know what I mean?

1188
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,919
Speaker 1: Some of those other guys that they have pieces gonna

1189
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: be two years older. Don't don't react now, Let's just see,

1190
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean. Like sometimes you're like, oh,

1191
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: we need to get rid of developed. They're gonna sit

1192
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: here and trade these pieces. I'm like, well, a man,

1193
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 1: it's only twenty two right now. This is where y'all got.

1194
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: Let's wait to he's twenty four. See what he looks

1195
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: like with this roster. NA with six minute a year,

1196
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: he didn't have a great playoff. He could have did

1197
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: a little better.

1198
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 3: Daniels like these, what do you think of meth is

1199
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 3: coming in the season?

1200
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: Hey listen, I thought whoever drafted Edie in the first

1201
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: in the top fifteen picks gonna get fired, right. I

1202
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: was like, Yeah, you're gonna get fired for this pick.

1203
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: And then it goes to Memphis and you're like, that's

1204
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: what we said that.

1205
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 3: I was like that.

1206
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 2: Goddamn doll. That is like you know what I mean, like.

1207
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: When you're talking about where you want to get drafted

1208
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: for success, right, being a number top top five pick

1209
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 1: or the perfect position. If I'm him, I'm sitting there

1210
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 1: like this, thank you, because this is the best you

1211
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: got John Morant right with his style of play easy

1212
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: buckets right, oh my god, easy right. The fact that

1213
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: they don't have really a post guy because.

1214
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 4: You know, Jared Jackson, Steve moves, it moves. Jared Jackson

1215
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 4: physic band makes every shoty ship fargus smart has never

1216
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 4: been healthy. They're really because of job missing to so

1217
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 4: it's gonna be interesting.

1218
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 2: So everybody gets back in their place.

1219
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: Then you got Jackson, right, if they put him at

1220
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 1: the three you're sitting here with, you might have a

1221
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: nice little got, little young bouncy, light skinned cat.

1222
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know his name.

1223
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: I can't remember his name, little young bouncy motherfucker with

1224
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: the dreads.

1225
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 2: Damn what was his name? Who?

1226
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 3: For Memphis?

1227
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,399
Speaker 5: Yes, he's bouncy and ship. He's like, come off the bench. Yeah,

1228
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 5: he's like a six seven six eight four guy Williams. No,

1229
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 5: I don't know his name, but I apologize. But the

1230
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 5: Brandon Clark, Brandon Clark, he's bouncing. They got some pieces

1231
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 5: there and like I said, they just they lost Steven Adams.

1232
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,479
Speaker 5: So I think he moves into the star hennabably double

1233
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 5: money yea one thing though. They got to go through

1234
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 5: s Jam, they got to go through them boys. Let

1235
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 5: me tell you something. The boy g you're thirty and

1236
00:53:58,600 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 5: the sweat. I don't know what kind of lo shit

1237
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 5: to you? What body watched the motherfucker be having all?

1238
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 5: The ship is insane. I ain't never seen no motherfucker.

1239
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 5: I thought I was a cool motherfucker. I know, be

1240
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 5: sure you thought you was cool, the coolest nigga.

1241
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 2: I say cool.

1242
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 1: This motherfucker is cool, and I'm a man. I can

1243
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: say that because I'm confident in my manhood. You're a

1244
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: cool motherfucker, really right, Like he makes like it's cool, like.

1245
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,399
Speaker 2: Like goddamn, this took for real.

1246
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: This ship is crazy, like a cool motherfucker. Man, You

1247
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That's not forget they got my

1248
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: fucking Caruso for bag of chips innisoda. No disrespected Josh Giddy.

1249
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: I just thought that they got him for for a

1250
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: lad chip and soda.

1251
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 2: Just suspecting you.

1252
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: Call it, Josh giddya bagg of chips in the soda.

1253
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: We talked about being poored sometimes. The bag of chips

1254
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 1: and the soda all you need when you do this

1255
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 1: for hours.

1256
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 3: Before I let you go, I want to do some

1257
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 3: speed questions real quick from from fan questions.

1258
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,280
Speaker 4: It's a good one. Start Benching, cut, m J, Lebron

1259
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 4: and Kobe. Oh God, God, damn man.

1260
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,399
Speaker 5: See this the ship. I hate that man tell people

1261
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 5: all the time, but say things can be true. Man,

1262
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 5: two things can be true. M J can be your

1263
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 5: goat and Lebron can be the goat today. And that's

1264
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 5: what I tell people all the time. MJ is my goatron.

1265
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:10,839
Speaker 2: Answer.

1266
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 1: No, I'm just letting him aswer this question. But I

1267
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 1: think why people dont understand sometimes two things can be

1268
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: trust the.

1269
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 4: Same thing we just said about him, Be like, you're

1270
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:17,800
Speaker 4: not you're not you're not saying you're not being negative

1271
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 4: and hating on him because that conversation, right, it's unfair.

1272
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm gonna we're just gonna just piss everybody off.

1273
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start Lebron bench Jordan's. Cobe cold is my

1274
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: favorite player of all time. But I can't have Jordan

1275
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: and Kobe on on the same team because obviously, if

1276
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: if Jordan starts and Kobe is coming off the bench,

1277
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: Jordan ain't coming out for him, right, So so if

1278
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 1: I start Kobe, he ain't subbing in Jordan's. So I'm

1279
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 1: gonna go with the safe pick as a coach. I'm

1280
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: gonna start Lebron Jordan off the bench. Bron will come

1281
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: out the game. You play the right way, you switch

1282
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: it up and have Jordan's Bron ain't never getting in

1283
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: the goddamn game. I can take that the sure fact fact.

1284
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,399
Speaker 2: It's a great point. I love the current. I love

1285
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:02,879
Speaker 2: that current.

1286
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 4: If if you had to pick three current players to

1287
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 4: go back in time and play within your era, who

1288
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 4: would be and why in my era?

1289
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 2: Or we could play with.

1290
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: Oh I want to play against I want to play

1291
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: against Curry. I want to play against Dame. I want

1292
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: to play against.

1293
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:21,720
Speaker 2: Brunton.

1294
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: You said Curry.

1295
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 5: Now I don't, but you made a comment one time

1296
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 5: you said Steph wasn't a generational talent.

1297
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: Oh okay, because only I said that because I know

1298
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 1: they don't know how to use the word right, right,

1299
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: So generational talent is That's why I said it exactly,

1300
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: that generational talent.

1301
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 2: It's an amateur status.

1302
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: Your generational talent means you have potential still, right, So

1303
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 1: Wenby is the generational talent. How can him and Stephan

1304
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: be on the same platform?

1305
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 2: Right? So one is not used. Right.

1306
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 1: So once you become a player, right, you are a

1307
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 1: generational player. So step is a general It's like talent

1308
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,399
Speaker 1: is something that he hasn't He hasn't been proven yet.

1309
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: But he's seven foot, he got he can.

1310
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 3: Do all the things.

1311
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: Well, he has the talent to do all these things,

1312
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 1: but manifested.

1313
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's.

1314
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: Already manifested, so you can't get he's a generational player,

1315
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 1: not a generational talent.

1316
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 2: So it's like my girlfriend, right, this is my girl.

1317
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 2: Once I marry her, I can't call him a girlfriend

1318
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 2: no more. Right, that's disrespectful. So I wasn't a disrespectful one.

1319
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 2: They were for calling the man talent.

1320
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: But he's clearly four champions, he's a generational player at

1321
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: this point. Got that.

1322
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 2: But that's how I go fira up a little bit.

1323
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 3: Last question, who's the most similar player to you in

1324
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 3: the league today?

1325
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 2: I want you.

1326
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 3: I want y'all at hall. I hope, man, you realize

1327
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 3: what this man fucking did.

1328
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: I'll say Maxie, with the way he plays, he just

1329
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 1: comes downhill, gonna take his shots.

1330
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 2: Right.

1331
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: But you know, I had an element to the game

1332
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 1: that people didn't really understand. I posted up a lot, right.

1333
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: If I see the mismatch, I was gonna whole stuff

1334
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 1: some of those smaller guards, right, So I'll say Maxie

1335
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 1: a little bit of the Dame Young Dame.

1336
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking.

1337
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: It was, you know, the Young Dame that the new name.

1338
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: He's done elevated, you know what I mean. So it's

1339
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: like Maxie and a little bit of Dame. Yeah, that's

1340
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: that's what I've seen a little bit of that day. Yeah,

1341
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: that ship, that ship.

1342
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1343
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 3: Man, listen, man, I appreciate you taking this time with us.

1344
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 2: Man, it's been fun. Yeah.

1345
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 5: I got one more question, because we all fathers and

1346
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 5: we got kids, can fucking listen. You're a little bit

1347
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 5: so slaughtersh It's okay, a little bit a little bit

1348
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 5: major painish, but it's okay.

1349
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, actually I'm not right. Like so look,

1350
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: I woke up at five thirty to go to the

1351
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 1: gym every day. One thing I say is I'm not

1352
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: waking you up, no doubt you're alone. This ain't my

1353
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: This ain't my love. This is your love.

1354
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 2: This is just my habit es right, so right now

1355
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 2: you love it? I mean you like the game. You

1356
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 2: don't love the game, right, So what I can do

1357
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 2: is just be the example of what someone.

1358
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 3: At the next next level looks like.

1359
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: So you have that's great, take a thous shot today,

1360
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 1: this and this at this point, do it when you

1361
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 1: want to. I'm just telling you it's easier to do

1362
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: the ship in the morning, yeah, because you get double

1363
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 1: back later if you wait till midnight. You know, Brian,

1364
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: who doesn't you know me got to cook Brian mine said,

1365
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: and woke up at three am, five seven, Like he's right.

1366
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 1: All I can do is just here's the time and

1367
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 1: this is what what's out there? So you got to

1368
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: do it on your own. But he's very talented. He listens,

1369
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: he's you don't know if they're winning the game or

1370
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: he's smooth.

1371
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 3: He's he's really good.

1372
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 5: I mean you're doing like I said, you're doing a

1373
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 5: lot of things, doing a little bit of club. You

1374
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 5: touching everything, man, so shout out everything.

1375
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 2: You got a man like listen, man, listen, listen.

1376
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: When I retired, man, hell, you have to ask your girlfriend, so, uh,

1377
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 1: what's your name?

1378
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 2: Aga?

1379
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 7: Okay, okay, okay, because like it's it's like learning somebody

1380
00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 7: all over like yeah, I know you, Like, let's six

1381
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 7: hours a day, you know, once a week.

1382
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 5: Seeing that that motherfucker retirement statistics when NBA players retired,

1383
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, I gotta get my ship to

1384
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 5: know it.

1385
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to get my ship and get out.

1386
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 1: One of the two somethings gonna have to happen. But

1387
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 1: I've seen why because you get there and you start

1388
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: like really like really, you're there, there's no running.

1389
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 2: You get it like you know us, we get in

1390
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 2: an argument. I'm gone, oh yeah, we will fix it

1391
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 2: on text. Get back. We're back in the fact. Now

1392
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 2: you're sitting there, So who is this?

1393
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: Oh?

1394
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 2: Oh you want to go to the mall. You need

1395
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 2: in the mall. Here's my car, here's a black car.

1396
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 4: Oh Jesus the car you will get out of there, that,

1397
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 4: oh Jesus appreciate you coming here.

1398
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 2: Blah ma