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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal hull.

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Speaker 2: For me, I'm a man, I'm forty.

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Speaker 1: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 1: be happy. You want to be happy for day Edith State?

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Speaker 3: Is that?

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Speaker 1: Whoo whoo? And Dan and tie Dan Rubinstein. Yes, we

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Speaker 1: called it so your oats Saturday. It did not look

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Speaker 1: as crazy in week six it did in week five.

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Speaker 1: We did not have as many obvious bangers on the slate.

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Speaker 1: It looked like, you know, a quieter week. Sure, certainly

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Speaker 1: it's always the quiet ones, isn't it, Dan, I.

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Speaker 4: Guess as a week it was a snake in the

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Speaker 4: toilet Saturday. It was what it was.

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Speaker 1: It's always the quiet ones. Just when we think we've

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Speaker 1: got it all figured out, that's when the chaos ensues.

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Speaker 1: In week five, yeah, we had the bangers, but in

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Speaker 1: week six we had three top fifteen teams lose to

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Speaker 1: unranked opponents. Throughout the course of this episode, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: do our part to go through all of that and

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Speaker 1: much much more. We also have a healthy batch of

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Speaker 1: reverbs that we're gonna dive into here. Towards the end

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Speaker 1: who are watching live who have straight up to watch

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Speaker 1: us live on YouTube. So if you've gotten any of those,

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Speaker 1: maul them over by the time we get to the

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Speaker 1: end of the show, we'll put some of those up

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Speaker 1: on the screen. Of course, we had a bunch of

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Speaker 1: dood alerts come in as per usual here on the

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Speaker 1: show and as a special treat just to get everybody

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Speaker 1: fighting a little bit more. I am going to reveal

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Speaker 1: my Top twelve ballot towards the end of Wow. Dan

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Speaker 1: Rubinstein here, lockdown, hit subscribe. We've got a lot to discuss,

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Speaker 1: my friend, welcome back to the show. How you doing tonight?

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Speaker 4: You're gonna vote on a personal top twelve with Cal and.

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Speaker 1: Duke still going that's right, that's right.

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Speaker 4: You're not gonna let Tron Grizzel affect your top twelve.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, not for as much as I like Cal and JKS. No,

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Speaker 1: Tron Grizel will not.

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Speaker 4: I think he just he just rolled his ankle. By

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Speaker 4: the way, JKS, he seems to be okay, beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, there is a lot to discuss here on

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Speaker 1: this episode. This, as you know, is kind of our

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Speaker 1: reaction stream. Welcome to all who are tuning in live

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Speaker 1: or to those of you who are listening after the fact.

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Speaker 1: Last week we did this live from a basement in

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Speaker 1: State College. Now we're at our normal basements home basement,

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Speaker 1: y com basement in Eastern PA, and of course out

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Speaker 1: in Chicago, Illinois. Dan, where do you want to start today?

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Speaker 1: Where do we lead this thing off?

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Speaker 4: Well? I want to start with my sympathies for those

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Speaker 4: of us who are for those of you who are

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Speaker 4: only listening to the show and not viewing it as

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Speaker 4: Tie is in his premium Lee Trevino, Look tonight, I

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Speaker 4: am with his hat and his crew neck sweatshirt and

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Speaker 4: his eyebrows. There's nothing better than this. Where do we

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Speaker 4: want to start? Let's start with ah Man, what was

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Speaker 4: the game that entertained me the most? Maybe Florida Texas,

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Speaker 1: I think we need to start with the Penn State game.

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Speaker 4: Sure, I mean I was entertained by Florida State Miami.

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Speaker 4: But okay, let's start Penn State at UCLA.

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Speaker 1: Look, the big story of the day was a Penn

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Speaker 1: State UCLA game. It was the biggest upset we've seen

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Speaker 1: biggest upset for the entirety of the twenty twenty five

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Speaker 1: college football season. It comes on the heels of the

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Speaker 1: game that we were at, the white out game that

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Speaker 1: went to overtime. Your Oregon Ducts edged out Penn State

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Speaker 1: in ot incredible environment. We did the show. You know,

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Speaker 1: as you might expect, right traveling cross country if you're

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Speaker 1: Penn State a week after taking Oregon to the wire,

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Speaker 1: going to overtime, there were expectations here. There was a

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Speaker 1: But the expectation was it was a reeling UCLA team

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and the one thing Penn State didn't factor into

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Speaker 1: Jerry Neuheisel play Collar and his wonderful moufossa maine of

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Speaker 1: where do we start here? I mean, loo, okay, Ucla

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, the season's.

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Speaker 1: Already a wash for UCLA. They are playing in an

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Speaker 1: Penn State's coaches were out coached by a team that

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Speaker 1: They came to play shit out out again. Jerry Neuheisel,

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Speaker 4: Heiseel with Tino Sensei and the team breaking up a

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Speaker 4: So Ucla in front of ninety six hundred people, forty

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Speaker 4: little bit less empty. I guess Penn State's not that good.

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Speaker 4: I'm speaking of the present tense. It doesn't mean that

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Speaker 4: they can't have a really good season today. Right now,

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Speaker 4: they are not a good team. They had opportunities last week.

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Speaker 4: That's a very good Oregon team. This is a UCLA

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Speaker 4: They've since had subsequent firings on the interim staff. Tim Skipper,

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Speaker 4: at UCLA. Nico Yamaliava looked like a blue chip quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Penn State's defense a beat up defense. No Tony Rojas,

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Speaker 4: and Nico looked great. The defense kind of knew what

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Speaker 4: Nico did make plays through the air. There's a certain

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Speaker 4: I'm going to run straight at this team. This play

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Speaker 4: I know you have thoughts about the Penn State side

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Speaker 4: after a big emotional loss. These are games that you

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Speaker 4: kind of less impactful to spotlight UCLA in this spot.

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Speaker 4: But man, did they come to play in all phases,

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Speaker 4: whereas Penn State kind of felt like they could show

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Speaker 4: Not so fast now.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look for all the talk on the Penn

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Speaker 1: zero mentality that were in pins around one to oh right. Sure,

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Speaker 1: for all of the talk and all of the work

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Speaker 1: as an elite caliber program, certainly they've done it. On

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Speaker 1: the recruiting trail. The defense never got off the plane today.

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Speaker 1: It did not get off the plane. And I understand

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Speaker 1: there are some injuries, but still that's no excuse. The

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Speaker 1: play calling on both sides was mind boggling. Dan, you

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Speaker 2: Talk about both sides of the ball for Penn State.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to talk about the predictability of the

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Speaker 1: been predictable going back a year now. Okay, so this

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Speaker 1: How many times he was like Mike Vick out there?

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Speaker 1: They couldn't stop him, and they committed no resources to

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Speaker 2: I agree.

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Speaker 1: And then on offense, they were down thirteen going into

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Speaker 1: establish the run with Nick's Singleton, who was not nearly

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Speaker 1: as good as k Tron Allen. In this game, it

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Speaker 1: it where they showed up and they expected that they

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Speaker 1: they didn't. They lost forty two to thirty seven. And

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Speaker 1: there are a whole hosts of questions. We've had a

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Speaker 1: bunch emailed into us already, but that's the crux of it, Dan,

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Speaker 1: this was a poorly coached team today. It was a

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Speaker 1: this is still a Big ten opponent. This is still

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Speaker 1: do not bring your a game, this is what can happen.

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Speaker 1: And Penn State learned the lesson the hard way, and

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Speaker 1: I am angry about it. I am frustrated with it.

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Speaker 1: I have many additional thoughts on the coaching staff and

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Speaker 1: the direction of the program and all of that, but

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Speaker 1: at its core, Ucla came to play and Penn State

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Speaker 1: did not and I credit the Bruins for getting the dub.

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Speaker 4: Well, they're only paying Jim Knowles like eighty five grand

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Speaker 4: this year, right for a result like this. Honestly, my

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Speaker 4: take here is I was almost surprised you wanted to

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Speaker 4: start with this game. I obviously know that you have

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Speaker 4: an interest in Penn State and you are a Penn

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Speaker 4: the way they played and the way that the offense

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Speaker 1: Well they do because this was and it continues a

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Speaker 1: as we talk about Texas losing, I mean, as we

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Speaker 1: have talked about with Clemson losing. I mean, there were

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Speaker 1: The thing that people have been sending it already is

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Speaker 4: Okay, my only issue with that is you've got a

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Speaker 1: But he's not a running quarterback. I mean, the system

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Speaker 1: It is not a talent thing. Though. It shouldn't be

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Speaker 4: Sure, but fifty million dollars to break up is a

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Speaker 4: different element to all of this. Man, I mean, this

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Speaker 4: State was your national champion, right.

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Speaker 1: In my national chamir, I jinxed everybody, man, everybody that

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Speaker 2: Look, not that I have any room.

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Speaker 4: I think I chose Texas, right, I want to say,

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Speaker 4: That's sort of a different.

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Speaker 2: It's a little mobomb on the piano.

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Speaker 1: For thank you. No, I appreciate that. Here's my point.

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Speaker 2: Uh, it's not, it's not.

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Speaker 1: It's just not. So. If you're eventually going to move

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Speaker 2: I'll shut up, okay, No, I'm everything you said is reasonable.

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Speaker 4: That was an uninspired performance and an inspired performance from

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Speaker 1: I scared the crap out of the dog. I threw

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Speaker 2: Sorry to hear it, Ty, I'm sorry to hear it.

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Speaker 1: Now, you were more entertained by Florida State Miami. Why

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Speaker 4: Because Malachi Coley plays for the one of those two teams.

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Speaker 4: Machai Toni, Malchai Toni, I said, Coley, Malachai Toni. I'm

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Speaker 4: I'm just off of my receiver names this year. I'm

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Speaker 4: And what Miami was able to do early on in

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Speaker 4: and as you what's your term oop to oop that. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: And you know, the best of Tommy Castelanos is very entertaining.

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Speaker 4: it just felt over very quickly.

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Speaker 4: Florida State scored I want to say, they went up

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Speaker 1: We had a little bit of Mario mode at the end,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Miami, and something like eighteen yards in the

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Speaker 4: It's an inappropriate sound because they won. So they won

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Speaker 4: this game. They looked faster, they looked angrier, they looked

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Speaker 4: And it's not to say that, like Virginia beat Florida

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Speaker 2: They're a different animal.

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Speaker 4: And so I came away thinking when you pair the

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Speaker 4: because I thought they ran the ball impressively as well,

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Speaker 4: But when you compare that with the fire that they

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Speaker 1: So not even no.

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Speaker 4: Where I put them amongst like the Ohio States, Oregons,

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Speaker 2: But they're in that conversation.

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Speaker 4: No, it does? And they look they weren't getting great

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Speaker 2: And I've got him in front of me right now.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you have like offensive defensive stats,

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Speaker 1: But it just felt like another game where their line

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Speaker 2: By the way, just blemish wise, you're right.

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Speaker 1: Malachai Toni reminds me of DeVante Smith a little bit

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Speaker 1: both cases is when they start running, you don't realize

436
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Speaker 1: how fast they're going.

437
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're never going to catch those dudes from behind.

438
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 1: It just looks smooth and you don't realize it until

439
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 1: you see him just lapping the field. So as a

440
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 1: true freshman they mentioned on the broadcast only turn eighteen

441
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,919
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago. I mean, the sky is the

442
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 1: limit for that kid. It's incredible. So I'm curious. We'll

443
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Speaker 1: see who is quarterback is next year. Yeah, we'll see

444
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Speaker 1: who the quarterback is next year. Yeah, let's stay in

445
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:40,399
Speaker 1: the state of Florida. And there was an upset twenty

446
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 1: nine twenty one, the Florida Gators knock off the Texas Longhorns. Dan,

447
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:48,239
Speaker 1: you called this one. You picked this? How do we

448
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 1: feel did the.

449
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,640
Speaker 4: Remember if I pected I don't know, if I picked

450
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,479
Speaker 4: Texas to lose this game, I forget my you know,

451
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 4: outcome pick. But yeah, this this fell under my rubric

452
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 4: of quality defense at home as a dog, a tough

453
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 4: place to play. How do I feel about this game.

454
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:09,919
Speaker 4: Texas is just okay, right that Texas measures itself the

455
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 4: way that they've been built against the best of the sport,

456
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 4: and Arch Manning appeared the best of Arch Manning appears.

457
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Speaker 2: To be very good.

458
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 4: You don't see it all that often, very hard to

459
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 4: see it behind this offensive line with an almost non

460
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 4: existent run game. The running backs finished with under fifteen

461
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 4: or twenty yards in this game.

462
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Speaker 2: No, I don't know if you have.

463
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Speaker 1: It in front of it in front of me, no,

464
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 1: but yeah, I think the.

465
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Speaker 4: Running backs did. There were you know, his touchdown throw

466
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 4: to Ryan Wingo was outstanding deep over the middle. His

467
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 4: deeper throws that aren't intercepted are great. But along the

468
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 4: lines of scrimmage in this game, both lines of scrimmage,

469
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 4: Texas was completely outclassed. They did not belong on the field.

470
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 4: They got pushed around in the run game when Florida

471
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Speaker 4: had the ball, and they were not able to figure

472
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Speaker 4: out the Florida pass rush when they themselves had the ball.

473
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Speaker 4: This is a mess. Like I say in the present tense,

474
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 4: Penn State is a mess. Texas is a mess because

475
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 4: arch has been there for three years now. There's a

476
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 4: lot of players who are are new? Are young? You

477
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 4: know there's a new offensive line. This wasn't a unit

478
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 4: that Sark went after guys in the portal to bolster

479
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 4: and help, and it shows I don't know how much

480
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 4: it would have been improved. Today, couldn't have been much worse.

481
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 4: And so I came away from this game thinking, I'm

482
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 4: not sure arch Manning knows how to read.

483
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 2: An SEC defense right.

484
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 4: Like just throwing into double coverage, making mistakes. There were

485
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 4: times where I felt like his footwork in the pocket

486
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 4: was extraordinary, like that he felt at such ease, and

487
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 4: there were times where he felt like he where I

488
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 4: felt like he didn't know where the pressure was coming from.

489
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 4: And so Texas just struggled in every phase against Florida.

490
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Speaker 4: And I've spent I've spilled too much audio ink on Texas,

491
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 4: specifically because Florida looked good.

492
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Speaker 1: They did.

493
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 4: Florida looked good many they felt inspired. You talk about

494
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 4: a freshman receiver in Malachai Toni who's popping off. Dallas

495
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 4: Wilson made his season debut. Long time Oregon comment Yeah,

496
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 4: Dallas Wilson signed with Oregon and then decided to switch

497
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 4: things over and dealing with stuff behind the scenes, and

498
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 4: it's all understandable and defensible.

499
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: He looked like an NFL receiver.

500
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 4: He bodied Texas DB's He looked real good. And so

501
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 4: where he transfers after billiy Napier gets fired, who's to say,

502
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 4: ty who is too such?

503
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 1: Jedfish will make sure that he and DJ Lagway stay

504
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: there as a tandem. Buddy.

505
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 4: Florida looks like this the rest of the season. We

506
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,239
Speaker 4: don't know how good Texas is, but who knows what

507
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 4: Florida looks like. They looked better. DJ Lagway looked more comfortable.

508
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 4: He knew he had more options. He knew that things

509
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,959
Speaker 4: were going to be easier given how successful to Florida

510
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 4: game was, and the Florida defense was extraordinary. The Florida

511
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 4: defense looked like a very good defense should look against

512
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 4: a discombobulated offense like Texas is. What did you come

513
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 4: away thinking?

514
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: This was just night and day. You know, we talk

515
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 1: off and on this show, especially when we're dealing with

516
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: the school like Florida that has fallen on some hard

517
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: times early, and I think it's my line. I know

518
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: it's been your line in the past, where we just

519
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: you can't always expect these teams to just sort of

520
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: switch it on. Switch it on against a better opponent

521
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: and a good defense, even if it's at home. That's

522
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: sometimes a bridge too far. Florida switched it on. They

523
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: switched it on. That's sort of what happened here. Dj Lagway,

524
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: as you said, was much better. The defense, which has

525
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: not gotten pressure at all this season, sack Darch Banning

526
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: six times. It felt like Florida was the physically dominant team.

527
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: They had ten more minutes of possession. And you know,

528
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: finally getting Dallas Wilson back was a huge coup in

529
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: the past game. Gave them a true wide receiver one,

530
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 1: or at least for this game, a wide receiver one.

531
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: He went off for six and one eleven and two touchdowns. Yeah,

532
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 1: talk about an instant impact. That was a big deal,

533
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: a really big deal getting him back. So I credit

534
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 1: Florida for finding some way to circle the wagons get

535
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: organized enough to beat a I still think a pretty

536
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: good Texas team, but a Texas team with flaws, they're flawed.

537
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 2: I agree.

538
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 4: Trey Wisner eight carries for eleven yards. He was their

539
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 4: leading running back rusher in this game.

540
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: They had two yards to carry two yards of carry

541
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 1: as a rushing entity, the Texas Longhorns, and so it

542
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: was all in Arch Manning. And like you said, the

543
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: best of Arch is a beautiful thirty eight yard touchdown

544
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: pass to Ryan Wingo. The worst of Arch doesn't recognize

545
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: the pressure shot puts the ball out there as funky

546
00:27:55,600 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 1: mechanics forces passes sometimes into traffic. I was watching Arch,

547
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 1: I was thinking, there's a little bit of Drew Aller

548
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: in his game, which is not a great comparison or

549
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: a compliment, I guess, but I think probably a fair comparison.

550
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: And to that point, there's a little bit of Penn

551
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: State in Texas. I just keep waiting for him to

552
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: pop into the next gear. I don't know if we've

553
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: seen it yet. I don't know if we ever will.

554
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

555
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 4: No, I mean it's all correct what you've said. I

556
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 4: just I go back to the fact that this is

557
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 4: his third year in the system, that by now, if

558
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 4: you are struggling to look comfortable consistently at home on

559
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 4: the road, whatever, you've been through this. You know the

560
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 4: film study that he's been through, the practices that he's

561
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 4: been through, the game experience that he's had, and he

562
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 4: just kind of seems like he is what he is,

563
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 4: and now you can use the lesson of any of

564
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 4: these teams of UCLA, of Florida, whatever, that you can

565
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 4: be in all sorts of really depressing depths as a program,

566
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,479
Speaker 4: as a team, and you can pull yourself out that

567
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 4: you can be terrible in September and improve in October

568
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 4: and November. Right that you can treat the season like

569
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 4: a living, breathing thing that grows and evolves and improves

570
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 4: and grows into your fully realized self. We just haven't

571
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 4: seen that direction from Texas yet. We haven't and we

572
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 4: didn't see it against Oio State, and we most certainly

573
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 4: did not see it in the weeks leading up to

574
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 4: this game against lesser, you know, quality opponents. So I

575
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 4: just I hold out hope for my own entertainment's sake

576
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:35,719
Speaker 4: that Texas improves, But it doesn't seem obvious how and

577
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 4: where it's going to happen quickly.

578
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: My final point on Texas and specifically Arch Manning, did

579
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: you happen to catch down the stretch? Arch's helmet gets

580
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: ripped off on a play, he has to sit out.

581
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 4: Oh the backup who came in.

582
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: Matthew Caldwell comes in and immediately rips a post twenty

583
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: six yards down the field.

584
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 2: Yep.

585
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: The throwing motion for Matthew Caldwell compared to Arch Manning

586
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,719
Speaker 1: was like silky smooth. It felt like a breath of

587
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: fresh air watching him throw the ball versus Arch throwing.

588
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if something's wrong with Arch. I don't

589
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: know if that's the way Arch has always looked, but

590
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: his mechanics, as compared to his backup, looked demonstrably more rickety.

591
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: And I don't know that hit me. That hit me

592
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: deep in my core. Arch is still a Manning. Arch

593
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: is still going to be probably, I'm sure pretty good.

594
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: But I don't know. It's just we're not necessarily getting

595
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: what we bargained for here, certainly not the people who

596
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: made Arch Manning the prohibitive favorite to win the Heisman

597
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: before the season. It's just it's not going to happen

598
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: this year, if it's going to happen at all.

599
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 4: Well, Matthew Caldwell has that Jared Parker DNA a Troy transfer,

600
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 4: so who's to say what his ceiling is? To be clear,

601
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 4: I had to look that up. Yeah, thank Matthew Caldwell

602
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 4: was Yeah, continue.

603
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:57,239
Speaker 1: Alabama thirty Van and fourteen. This is a game that

604
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: we talked a lot about. Given circumstances, given the baggage

605
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: from a yer ago, should come as no surprise. We

606
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: had people writing into us, a lot of people interested

607
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: in this game, a lot of people rooting for Vandy

608
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: in this game. I thought this was an incredible football game,

609
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: and there were a couple of moments early when I

610
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: said to you, Vandy looks like they could win the

611
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: damn SEC Bendy looked good for a good chunk of

612
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: this game. They look good. And I think there's some

613
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: real cognitive dissonance here for a lot of us when

614
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: it comes to Vandy, especially those of us who have

615
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: been covering the sport for a while, because Vandy's just

616
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: been so bad for so long. They weren't last year.

617
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: This year, I don't think they are either. I think

618
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: they're a pretty good team now. We just got to

619
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: get over it. And I'm speaking mostly to myself. They

620
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: are not just a cute story. They're a tough out.

621
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: They're legitimately good. And Alabama over the course of this

622
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: game did what Alabama is good at, and that is

623
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: give the ball to Ti Simpson, let him create plays,

624
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: allow him to extend plays. Yeah, with his ability in

625
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: the pocket, with his legs. He's not a runner like

626
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: Jalen Milroe, but he's really good at moving around. He's

627
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: good at extending plays. He was especially dangerous in this

628
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: football game. And I thought ty Simpson again continued to

629
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: do what he has done ever since that first week

630
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: of the season, and that is put Alabama in a

631
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: position to win, keep opposing defenses on skates, and be

632
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: really efficient through the air. He had an outstanding football game.

633
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

634
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 4: The big thing that I noticed with ty Simpson and

635
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 4: I picked Vandy to win this game, which you know,

636
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 4: for a couple minutes here, a couple of minutes.

637
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: There, felt pretty good about that pick.

638
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 4: But the big thing I've noticed about ty Simpson since

639
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 4: that Florida State loss was his decision making and his

640
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 4: like this is my move and I'm going for it now.

641
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 4: Like you can see that. He sat in film study

642
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 4: and somebody with a laser pointer was like, this is

643
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 4: when you throw it, dude, Like this receiver runs by

644
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 4: this safety. As soon as you see that's happening, your

645
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 4: wind up begins. You step in and you let it rip.

646
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 4: And it has become so much more of a joy

647
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 4: to watch him play because he seems so much more decisive,

648
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 4: and there's some like ambivalence in the pockets sometimes and

649
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 4: feeling pressure and taking sacks that he shouldn't be taking.

650
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 4: There's that kind of stuff with the first year starter.

651
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 4: But by and large, especially down the middle of the

652
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 4: field today, I mean finding you know, take your pick,

653
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 4: you know, I think he has a really nice connection

654
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 4: with Ryan Williams and Jeremy Bernard, but Josh Quavis got

655
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 4: into it the tight end, and I thought you saw

656
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 4: the difference in Alabama finally being able to run the

657
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 4: ball today, jam Miller looked really sharp and the running

658
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 4: game in general looked very, very sharp, and so I

659
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 4: just thought he looked so much more confident in what

660
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 4: he was seeing down the field. And he's got great

661
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 4: players obviously, but it just seemed like he was much

662
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 4: more sympatico not simpty, I don't know whatever, in line

663
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 4: with Ryan Grubb and Halen de Boor. And for Vanderbilt's part,

664
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 4: like Diego Pave made plays. He had the long run.

665
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 4: I think it was it said Alexander early on had

666
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 4: the sixty plus yard run. And there were some turnovers,

667
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 4: early turnover stuff early and obviously later in the game,

668
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 4: Bama had some red zone struggles. They definitely need to

669
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 4: clean that up. We saw that in the second half

670
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 4: last week, we saw it in the second half this

671
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 4: week against Vandy. But by and large, the Bama defense

672
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 4: came to play and they adjusted to Vandy really nicely.

673
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 4: I didn't think the Vandy defense adjusted all that well

674
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 4: to what Alabama was doing. They were getting shredded up

675
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 4: the middle. I don't know if they were just sitting

676
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 4: in some kind of zone that ty Simpson was seeing.

677
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to go back and watch the game

678
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 4: a little bit more closely, but the picture seemed like

679
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 4: it was in four K for and I don't know

680
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,240
Speaker 4: what the human eye can actually register, but ty Simpson's

681
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 4: vision was super impressive, and Alabama is playing with a

682
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 4: confidence against what I still think, and I think you agree,

683
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 4: is a very good Vanderbilt team that I think probably

684
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 4: is incredible to see if you're Obama fan. Things to

685
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 4: clean up, for sure, but a great next step in

686
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:05,760
Speaker 4: the season.

687
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: I think it's meaningful for Bama to cover. And we

688
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: don't play any of these games, at least you and

689
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: I don't view these games that much. Through the point spread,

690
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: but the whole saying about good teams winning, great teams

691
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: cover I think is meaningful in a game like this

692
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: because Vandy's a pain in the ass and they're a

693
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: good team, and they're going to beat others in the

694
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: sec before all is said and done, this is a

695
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: game Alabama. There was an obvious like set of baggage here.

696
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: Of course, there was a revenge tilt for them, but

697
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: Vandy wanted to do this again, and Diego Pavia has

698
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 1: proven very effective in games like this. So for Bama

699
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: to put Vandy out of its misery, for them to

700
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: be able to run the ball, which is something they

701
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: have not done much at all this season, for Ty

702
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: Simpson to have the kind of game he had, and

703
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: for Alabama I think to win going away as it felt.

704
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: If you watched this thing, I don't know, that's meaningful

705
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 1: to me. And that's something I definitely paid some attention

706
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: to when I was putting my ballot together, which I'll

707
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: show you guys a little bit later on in the show.

708
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 2: Can't Wait All Right?

709
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: Another one here as we switch gears and talk about

710
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: Big twelve football. Was a game that I think you

711
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: and I disagreed on as well. Cincinnati knocked off Iowa

712
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: State by a thirty eight to thirty score. Yeah, buddy,

713
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: not a lot of defense in this one. This was

714
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: an early game. This is kind of a big early

715
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: game at high New Eastern time for Cincinnati. It was

716
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: big play after big play after big play. I kept

717
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 1: waiting for them to stop. Surely, Dan, the big plays

718
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: had to stop at some point. Yeah, never did.

719
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 4: Not, really, No, And I'm curious to see what Iowa

720
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 4: States yards before contact number is because Evan Pryor was

721
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 4: running wild. Yeah, there was so much room for Cincinnati

722
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 4: in this game. I came away super impressed with what

723
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 4: Cincinnati was doing on offense, and especially in that first half.

724
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 4: I paused. You know, I went back and I was

725
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 4: at a kid soccer game during this game. So I

726
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 4: went back and I watched every play that I could.

727
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 4: And if you had told me the Iowa State defense

728
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 4: decided seven minutes before kickoff to have like a Thanksgiving meal,

729
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 4: it would have made a lot more sense watching the

730
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 4: Iowa State defense. I don't know how beat up they

731
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 4: are in this moment. They looked sluggish, they looked indecisive.

732
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 4: They didn't look like they had the fire needed to

733
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 4: win this game, and Cincinnati came out with their hair

734
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 4: on fire. It was such a striking contrast to me

735
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 4: that Cincinnati's game plan was just incredible and Iowa State

736
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 4: was just trying to react constantly. And I saw Rockebeck

737
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 4: throw the ball fifty times. That's not Iowa State football.

738
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 4: If he's thrown it forty eight forty nine times, it's

739
00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 4: bad news.

740
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean to the point, Iowa State was down

741
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: sixteen guys, yeah, to a three, and it did look it.

742
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: But even still, that's not really an excuse for the

743
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: poor tackling we saw in this game. This was still

744
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: a much much better defense statistically than they showed in

745
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: this game with respect to preventing chunk plays. Cincinnati just

746
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: pounded them and they were dominant up front. You were right.

747
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: They ran for season high two hundred and sixty yards.

748
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: I Alowa State was pretty much playing catch up the

749
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: whole game, and I give since he a lot of

750
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: credit for coming out really aggressive, for keeping their foot

751
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: on the gas. Even though i Always State did mount

752
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: a bit of a comeback towards the end, Cincinnati and

753
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: the lead that they got out to right away set

754
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: the tone established up front. That if Iowa State wanted

755
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: to win, they had to come from behind and do

756
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: so on the road. And kudos to Scott Sadderfield Cincinnati

757
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 1: forgetting a big win. This of course puts the Big

758
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: Twelve and more of a state of flex now with

759
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: a loss here. We saw a really close one in

760
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: the Big twelve. Baylor knocks off Kse State by a

761
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: thirty five to thirty four score. That was a wild game.

762
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: We could talk about that one. Texas Tech just steady eddy.

763
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: They end up winning thirty five to eleven over Houston.

764
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: We saw BYU win on Friday night over West Virginia

765
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: Arizona one. I believe TCU ended up winning their game

766
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: fourth Wall or late Yep against Colorado, and Kansas got

767
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: a dub as well over UCF. But there are a

768
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,919
Speaker 1: bunch of teams sort of just clustered in there where

769
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: you can make a case for a bunch of them,

770
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: and I think feel pretty okay about it. But there

771
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: is just so much variability now from game to game.

772
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: When we're talking about these Big twelve teams, a lot

773
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: of them feel the same, but each game feels a

774
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: little bit different, which is just very strange. And I

775
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 1: think adds to the whole appeal of the Big Twelve

776
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: being the most wide open, interesting conference in agree.

777
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, there's definite quality in bulk here we nailed that.

778
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 4: What was the Kansas State Baylor game did feel like

779
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 4: it was going to be tight back and forth. I

780
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 4: haven't watched the game as closely as I'd like to

781
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 4: and eventually will, but it seemed like k State had

782
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 4: this game.

783
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: Let me tell you what you need to know. What

784
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: you need to know about this game, if you didn't

785
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: watch it, if you're going to go back and watch it,

786
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: or if you're just interested from afar. Both fan bases

787
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: were pissed off after this.

788
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 2: Those are the best.

789
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, both were pissed off about something because if you're

790
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: a Baylor fan. There were early mistakes. They were falling behind.

791
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: They needed this furious comeback. It was a stadium that

792
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: looked a little bit too much like the Rose Bowl

793
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: for everybody's satisfaction. There were a lot of empty seats

794
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: on the k State side. They were giving up a

795
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: ton of chunk plays. They were not converting on some

796
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 1: of those early mistakes from Baylor. They blew a fourteen

797
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: point lead late. It was their fifth time in six

798
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: games that it was a one score margin. They just

799
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: cannot get separation. And I think the most frustrating part

800
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: of all. Avery Johnson has not been great this season.

801
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: He actually had a really good game, as you might

802
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: expect for any quarterback going up against Baylor, but it

803
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: was a late pick six that's going to overshadow everything.

804
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

805
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 1: So again, both fan bases come out of this one

806
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: and I think wanting and feeling like they left a

807
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: lot out there and they should be better than this.

808
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 2: Yep.

809
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 4: But only one one a clunker?

810
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, only one one a clunker over in the big ten, Dan, please,

811
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: We of course talked about I think the main one,

812
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: the Penn State loss, but we had Michigan knocking off

813
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: Wisconsin twenty four to ten.

814
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 2: YEP.

815
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: We had a Nebraska Michigan State game, which was one

816
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 1: of the more entertaining games of the day. Nebraska did

817
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: not cover the eleven and a half point spread by

818
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: a half point, that little hook, Yeah, thirty eight to

819
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:01,280
Speaker 1: twenty seven. Washington needed twenty one unanswered to come back

820
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: from a late deficit in the fourth quarter to win

821
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 1: at Maryland Traveling Cross Country twenty four to twenty YEP.

822
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: We had Illinois getting three hundred and ninety yards from

823
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: one week that and Northwestern gotta win over ul Monroe. Yes,

824
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: I am impressed with Michigan right now, and I think

825
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: a lot of people are sleeping on Michigan. It was

826
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: a season high two hundred and seventy yards passing for

827
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: Bryce Underwood. It was a fifth straight one hundred yard

828
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: game for Justice Haynes. Of course, you had your normal

829
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 1: complement of controversial calls and mispass interferences and mis false starts,

830
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: all sorts of weird stuff. But if you look at Michigan,

831
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 1: they're currently four and one on the road at USC

832
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: home against Washington and Purdue on the road at Northwestern

833
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: in Maryland close out the year. Of course, that big

834
00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: game against Ohio State. I'm just saying watch out for mission.

835
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: It feels like they might be getting better, and with

836
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: the schedule they've got coming up, I think most of

837
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: these teams are beatable, maybe with the exception of Ohio State,

838
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: but it could be interesting down the stretch with the

839
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: Michigan Wolverines. Do not count them out.

840
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 4: I'm still not thrilled with where Michigan is on offense,

841
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 4: and this is not to say not thrilled with Bryce Underwood.

842
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 4: It's more just the sloppiness from receivers, and I know

843
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 4: they made some changes at receivers and Donovan McCully actually

844
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 4: really stepped up today. I thought that's a really nice

845
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 4: step in the right direction. Wisconsin defense did enough in

846
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 4: this game, especially those first two two and a half quarters,

847
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 4: to make this a legit game. They start a new quarterback,

848
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 4: you know, it's sort of like one step forward, two

849
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 4: steps back with this offense. Luke Fickle had a weird

850
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 4: thing where he had his timeouts and they decided and

851
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 4: it was like a longer postgame conversation, but they were

852
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 4: able to move the ball. I think they kicked a

853
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 4: field goal to go down two touchdowns, and with like

854
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 4: three or four minutes left they had Michigan had the

855
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 4: ball and he just didn't call timeouts, and Michigan took

856
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 4: like two minutes off the clock. Yeah, it's like, okay,

857
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 4: that's not advisable. Not that Wisconsin had any sort of

858
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 4: reason to believe that their offense could score two quick touchdowns,

859
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 4: but it just I don't know, it felt like there

860
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 4: was white flag waving from Wisconsin, but by and large,

861
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 4: what Michigan was able to do today and sidebar. I

862
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 4: love the like yellow or the maze accents that they

863
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 4: were wearing in this game.

864
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 2: Really sure looks great.

865
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: I loved it. I loved it.

866
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 4: Got good runs from Justice Haynes, nice throws from Bryce Underwood.

867
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 4: Donovan McCully came to play. But I wouldn't say it

868
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 4: was an overwhelming effort for Michigan's offense.

869
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't.

870
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 4: I think there are positives to take away from it.

871
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 4: They I think they started a true freshman tight end

872
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 4: at one of the receiver spots and that was promising.

873
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

874
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 4: I think there's a lot to clean up still from Michigan,

875
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 4: and that's okay. It's a true freshman quarterback. That's understandable.

876
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: I should also mention that Ohio State one forty two

877
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: to three. They held the highest graded passer in the

878
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 1: Big Ten, Drake lindsay to ninety four yards. Meanwhile, Drew

879
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: Julian Sayin went twenty three of twenty seven for three

880
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: twenty six and three touchdowns. They outgained Minnesota four seventy

881
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 1: four to one sixty two. Don't think there was much

882
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 1: of a surprise at Ohio State won Big but this

883
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: was a dominant showing the two other things I just

884
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: want to call out very quickly since I know he

885
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: mentioned the game.

886
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 4: To point out it was it was a freshman receiver,

887
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 4: not a freshman tight end. Freshman receive, I think, yeah, Andrew.

888
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: Marsh, Yeah, I did not think Nebraska was overly impressive

889
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: in their game. They did.

890
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 4: I think there were elements of Nebraska that were impressive.

891
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 4: Their offensive line.

892
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: No, they did enough. They did make some big plays.

893
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: They got to win. Dylan Royl, you know, one four

894
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: touchdown ended up throwing a pick. They ran, okay, eighty

895
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: three yards with Emmitt Johnson, he had three touchdowns on

896
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 1: the ground. This was a win that they needed to get.

897
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:18,240
Speaker 1: They did hold Michigan State down on like third downs.

898
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: I think they went two to fourteen. They were a

899
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: couple turnovers in there. So like that side of it,

900
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: I think I take away as a positive. But offensively,

901
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: I felt like I wanted more. I felt like it

902
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: was there against this defense, and I just I wanted

903
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: a little bit more.

904
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:38,479
Speaker 4: It was in both of these teams defenses. In terms

905
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 4: of what these the stat line looks like it was

906
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 4: twenty mile an hour wins and so I don't know.

907
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 4: Dylan Royola has a big arm and so you got

908
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 4: to be able to throw through that sometimes, and he

909
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,919
Speaker 4: had some nice throws. The long touchdown, I want to say,

910
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 4: was a screen caught at the line of scrimmage and

911
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 4: then run for sixty yards, So that may have skewed

912
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 4: his bottom line a little bit, but a nice job. Yeah,

913
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 4: I think you're on target here because I thought it

914
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 4: was a nice job by Nebraska's defense. More than anything,

915
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 4: offensive line is a wreck, but that's nothing new. I

916
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 4: thought Riola was fine, he was okay, didn't get me

917
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 4: going all that much, but he's the quarterback for a

918
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 4: winning team, and to do what he does when he's

919
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 4: able to make plays behind that line, it's impressive.

920
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: And the only other big ten point I have is

921
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: that Washington deserves some praise for traveling cross country in

922
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 1: a letdown spot. Right. I had Ohio State last week

923
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: at home, obviously didn't win that game, but now having

924
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,760
Speaker 1: to travel cross country to play a Maryland team. Maryland

925
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: was up on him for most of the game. They

926
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: needed that comeback late in order to get the dub.

927
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: They were able to get the job done, so I

928
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 1: credit them. I think that was a really tough spot.

929
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: I think it shows a lot of resilience with.

930
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 4: The oh it was one hundred percent losable spot. They

931
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 4: didn't score in the first half, I don't I think

932
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 4: they went nearly seven straight quarters without scoring a touchdown

933
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 4: or yeah, seven quarters. They didn't score a touchdown until

934
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 4: the fourth quarter of this one. They needed three touch

935
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 4: downs to close things out. So an impressive effort from

936
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 4: Washington to close out an incredibly losable game for the Huskies.

937
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 4: And Maryland not closing this out. I know there's controversial

938
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,240
Speaker 4: calls both ways, and I understand it. Marylynd not closing

939
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 4: this game out is a pretty catastrophic look for the Terps.

940
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 4: This would have been a signature win for Mike Loxley

941
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 4: and not able to close it.

942
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 1: Out in the ACC Virginia gets another win.

943
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 2: Yep.

944
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: Louisville was my lock of the week, so obviously Virginia

945
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: gets the win in overtime. They're second straight overtime victory.

946
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: They win thirty to twenty seven on the road. A

947
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: much different game than we saw last week against Florida State,

948
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,240
Speaker 1: and I think that's interesting because two.

949
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 2: Defines some touchdowns. So yeah, well.

950
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, anytime you have a team sort of come out

951
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: of nowhere where there's not much expectation and suddenly they're

952
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: playing really well. There's the obvious question of, yeah, well,

953
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: what else can they do? We've seen them win a

954
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: couple of games like this, but how else can they

955
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: win games? If forced too? They answered some new questions

956
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: in this one. The offense was not nearly as effective

957
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: or efficient as we've seen recently. Never felt like it

958
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: clicked in this game, so the defense steps up. They

959
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: had fourteen points, one with a scoop and score another

960
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: with a pick six. They were able to dial up

961
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 1: pressure on defense. They ended up with five sacks in

962
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 1: the second half alone. On Louisville. They were really good

963
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: against the run. They didn't get roasted by Isaac Brown.

964
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: Something was up with the turf in this game. Yeah,

965
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: a chance to watch, but guys.

966
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,919
Speaker 4: I think that's like a weird reputation that Louisville has

967
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 4: in general, garbage turf that injures players allegedly.

968
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: It felt worse to me. I don't know if there

969
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: were sliding around like they were on ice out there,

970
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: that wasn't pleasant. But I thought the way that Virginia

971
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: won this game sort of in a different capacity than

972
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: we're used to seeing, or then we've been used to

973
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: seeing these last couple weeks of the year in September.

974
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: That to me was impressive. And there's not a whole

975
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: lot of AMMO left on that Virginia schedule, you know,

976
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if they've got the medal to sort

977
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 1: of run the table and go through this thing and

978
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: really surprise us. Even if they don't, what they've done

979
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: so far I think is a huge success and definitely

980
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 1: re ups Tony Elliott, like they're not going to get

981
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 1: rid of him at this point. How could they?

982
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, as long as they keep ponying up for portal

983
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 4: stuff every year or recruiting stuff and nil stuff, Virginia's

984
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 4: in a nice place.

985
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 2: I thought.

986
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 4: I was really impressed with. I think it's Jamari Taylor right.

987
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,240
Speaker 4: I'm trying to make sure I get my name's correct.

988
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 4: Tye at my advanced age, in sort of an all

989
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 4: purpose role for Virginia was great. Able to pull that

990
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 4: out against Miller, Moss and Louisville, I mean to do

991
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 4: it on the road, especially in that letdown spot as

992
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 4: you mentioned, and not getting it from Chanmo, who seems

993
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 4: off I don't know. There's something physically there. I don't know,

994
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 4: but very impressive from the who's wahu wah all right?

995
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: Rapid fire ACC other scores Pit wins by forty one

996
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: with a backup quarterback Mason Heinschel Eli Holstein benched. Yeah,

997
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 1: maybe this is what Pitt needed to realize their ACC

998
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 1: championship fate.

999
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,919
Speaker 4: Who knows, it's not too late, ty. My standings say

1000
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 4: they are one and one in the ACC in this moment.

1001
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: Thirty eight UNC ten. Guess who just got bur This

1002
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: was thirty five to three at half. It's what we

1003
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: would call typically a flash fry on this here show

1004
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: the Bill Belichick experiment is not working. It does not

1005
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: seem like it is working. This might have been an

1006
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: extreme case against one of the better teams maybe in

1007
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: the ACC, at least in the top half of the ACC.

1008
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 1: Maybe their defense got torched. They started Max Johnson. That

1009
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: wasn't a great showing from him. It was just all

1010
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: round bad, all round bad for North Carolina. You know,

1011
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 1: I don't know what the immediate future looks like, but

1012
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: if this is a measuring stick against Clemson, they didn't

1013
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 1: look up to it at all. We had Wake Forest

1014
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: going on the road to Lane Stadium in winning. We

1015
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: had SMU winning comfortably over Syracuse, though Qus came back

1016
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: a bit, and then we had a win from NC State.

1017
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: The Duke California game is currently ongoing. We'll have to

1018
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: get to that one when we talk about things on Tuesday.

1019
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 4: The Late West Coast affair should also mention regarding the

1020
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 4: Clemson game. This isn't a full Divorgeack experience, but opening

1021
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 4: play seventy five yard double pass trick play Antonio Williams

1022
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 4: to TJ Moore. The first six drives offensive drives in

1023
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:41,760
Speaker 4: this game for Clemson against a Bill Belichick and Steve

1024
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 4: Belichick defense were touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, punt, touchdown. Yeah,

1025
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 4: this game was over almost immediately. I cannot believe as

1026
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 4: I posted this on some plot maybe Blue Sky or something,

1027
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 4: that Hulu is going to exit exhaust SD card after

1028
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 4: SD card, of after SD card following a two to

1029
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 4: ten ACC team in which everybody seems to be quitting.

1030
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty cool.

1031
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: Wild wild, And just to round things out here for

1032
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: more results, to win Notre Dame one handily over Boise

1033
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 1: State twenty eight to seven.

1034
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 4: It was close, sloppily as at the same time too

1035
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 4: ace for a while, but I.

1036
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: Thought a good game from Notre Dame defense. Notre Dame

1037
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 1: was clearly the better team. It did take them to

1038
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:37,280
Speaker 1: get a bit to get moving, but force four picks

1039
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 1: from Maddox Madison. He was running for his life for

1040
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: most of this game. A nauseating performance from the referees.

1041
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:44,240
Speaker 1: If I don't say so myself.

1042
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 4: Could you see this game? Okay, Notre Dame was in

1043
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 4: the greens on greens.

1044
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: I struggled with this. Yeah, my color blindness did not

1045
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: appreciate that uniform choice. Okay, twenty four flags in this game. Oof,

1046
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: just a brutal watch a million player stoppages. That was

1047
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: not fun. But Notre Dame wins. They I think showcased

1048
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 1: that they were the better team. We had a boat

1049
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 1: race elsewhere in the SEC with Texas A and M

1050
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:18,240
Speaker 1: beating Mississippi State. They just slowly pulled away and suffocated Missisippi.

1051
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 4: Well, wasn't it It was like fourteen? It was close

1052
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 4: near the end of this game. It was a big

1053
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 4: fourth quarter. Obviously they turned a short field after a

1054
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 4: fumble into a score, but this was relatively close for

1055
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 4: a large chunk of this game. I know Ruben Owens.

1056
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 4: Every time I looked up, he was running wild. Yeah,

1057
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 4: but you know, a strong way to finish for Texas

1058
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 4: A and M. I'm excited to watch this game a

1059
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 4: little bit more closely.

1060
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 1: Georgia was dominant over Kentucky thirty five to fourteen. They

1061
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: outgained them by a four to twenty five to two

1062
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 1: seventy margin. Kentucky was like three of eleven on third downs.

1063
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 1: Gunner Stockton was good running on the ground, and Oklahoma

1064
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:56,760
Speaker 1: blanked kent State.

1065
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,879
Speaker 4: Mark Stoops very defensive after this game. Yeah, there were

1066
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 4: questions implying that maybe there should be thought to moving

1067
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 4: in a new direction for him for Kentucky, and he

1068
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,320
Speaker 4: seemed irritated at the notion.

1069
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: That's okay, So Dan, here is what my top twelve

1070
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: looks like.

1071
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 2: Okay, as a.

1072
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,280
Speaker 1: Result of what we saw this week. Okay, I'm ready.

1073
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,479
Speaker 1: I've got Miami as my new top team number one.

1074
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 1: I've got Miami as my top team. I'm going to

1075
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: Ohio State two, Oregon three. Now I had Oregon one.

1076
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: But one of the things, one of the things I

1077
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you about is, now, with what we

1078
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: saw from Penn State, if that takes some of the

1079
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: heat out of Oregon.

1080
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 2: I mean.

1081
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 4: Sure, but you know, doing it on the road, doing

1082
00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 4: it in that environment, and there are proven very good

1083
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 4: players on at least this Penn State defense that came

1084
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 4: in as proven guys. Doesn't mean Penn State is a

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00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 4: proven good team. But yes, I still think that game

1086
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 4: is impressive from Oregon. But yeah, you got to take

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00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 4: the whole, the whole scope of the Penn State experience

1088
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 4: into accounts. So if you want a doc Oregon, that's okay,

1089
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:20,479
Speaker 4: that's your prerogative, that's your poll.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Oregon didn't even play, so.

1091
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 2: He did not play.

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00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 1: Not a great logical reason to drop them. But this

1093
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 1: is a Liverpool. We get to move things around at will.

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00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: I've got A and M at four. I love A

1095
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: and M. I've got BAM at five, Georgia at six,

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00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,240
Speaker 1: Ole Miss at seven, So a run of four SEC

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00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 1: teams there, Indiana at eight, Oklahoma at nine, Missoo at ten,

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00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 1: Tennessee at eleven, Texas Tech at twelve. That's how I

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00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: felt in the immediate aftermath of Week six.

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Speaker 4: I might have Miszoo a little bit lower, just in

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Speaker 4: terms of resid a stuff. I don't mind where you

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Speaker 4: have Indiana, Nor do I mind where you have Oklahoma

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00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 4: or Ole, miss A and M resume wise, because the

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00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 4: Notre Dame win looks better, I guess I think I

1105
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 4: would have Bama ahead after today of A and M.

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00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 4: But that's just sort of personal preference and splitting hairs.

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00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 4: I don't think that's terrible. But I also when I

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00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 4: look at your poll, I think to myself, there is

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00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 4: no amount of money that I would feel comfortable wagering

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00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 4: on Miami to beat Ohio State on a neutral field

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00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 4: in this moment.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's fair, That's absolutely fair. If you've got thoughts

1113
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: on that, please write in. Come and fight me.

1114
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 2: I'm crying and fight you.

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Speaker 1: Come and fight me. I'm willing to defend my choices.

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00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: For those of you who are watching live, who have

1117
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: been staying up with us and paying attention to our

1118
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: week six reaction stream, I want to get some questions

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00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 1: from the verbaler who here before too long before we

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Speaker 1: get there, though, we should pay sweet homage Dan Rubinstein

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Speaker 1: to the kind folks that called in at eight five

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Speaker 1: five verbal three. That is the reverblind where people leave

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Speaker 1: voice messages. The sense that I get from listening to

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00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: this and from talking to our chief reverb engineer, Shay

1125
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Speaker 1: is that we had a lot of folks that were

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00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 1: shell shocked by some of these results. I'm sure we

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00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: had a lot of folks that were shell shocked. So

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Speaker 1: though we had sort of the normal amount come in,

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Speaker 1: we had a fair amount of people who I don't

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00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: know if they knew what to say in response to

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Speaker 1: what we saw. Here are your week six reverbs have listened.

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Speaker 5: My wife's window of opportunity went much longer than I

1133
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 5: expected today. So when I first sat down and saw

1134
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 5: the Penn State UCLA game in the third quarter, I yelled,

1135
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 5: oh my God, so loud. She ran to the room

1136
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 5: thinking I was hurt.

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Speaker 6: Hey, y'all, this is uh William in Clinton, South Carolina.

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00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 5: This is Andrew from Atlanta.

1139
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: Tommy here calling in from Virginia.

1140
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 2: I'm at a wedding.

1141
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: Just check the Penn State score and is it grunky times?

1142
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: Because Drew aller Man TI, I have.

1143
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 2: A poem for you. I hope you like it.

1144
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: Roses are red, bruins are blue.

1145
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 2: Penn State stinks fire games. Franklin too?

1146
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 6: Does tenn State have a Rose Bowl problem? Hey?

1147
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 1: This is Don from Laurel. Is this the better helpline.

1148
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 1: I'm Penn State alum and I need some help.

1149
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 6: I got a couple questions for you. You know, all

1150
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 6: we did is beat the dog miss out of a

1151
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 6: six time Super Bowl champion? Is that good? All we

1152
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 6: did is haying twenty eight points on him in the

1153
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Speaker 6: first court.

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00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. Is that good? I very much like

1155
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 1: it when Caden pract gets the ball. Please keep doing that, Alabama.

1156
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 3: Archill telmc comes off, got to hit out for a play,

1157
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 3: Paul well sling's a twenty six yard past. Arch just

1158
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 3: pooches it a My wife goes, why did they just

1159
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 3: leave that Caldwell guy in there?

1160
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Speaker 1: You just talk about Arch Manning. He's not that great.

1161
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 7: He's just a baby in the swamp to Billy Napier.

1162
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Speaker 6: You lost that game. Sheesh, my buddy, she.

1163
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Speaker 5: Granted if you can't spin your wheels for three quarters

1164
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 5: against the quality team, the twenty four unanswered on the

1165
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Speaker 5: road bowed.

1166
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Speaker 6: Down to Washington.

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Speaker 7: I can't believe Auburn managed to lose to the bye week,

1168
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 7: didn't even play. Still lost in all serious snows. How

1169
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 7: many rounds of golf did Hugh Freeze play this weekend?

1170
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Speaker 7: Setting me over here at three and a half and

1171
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Speaker 7: taking me over.

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Speaker 6: Nebraska definitely is not back. But I saw them do

1173
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 6: something today. I was starting to become convinced they.

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Speaker 1: Might never do again. Win a freaking clunker.

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Speaker 7: Gbr Baby, there's a new sheriff in town.

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Speaker 1: At Pitt's name is Mason Heinschel, who's CC champions dreams

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01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 1: are not dead man.

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Speaker 5: I didn't think a Pio State's the best win of

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Speaker 5: the season would come against ILLINOI.

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Speaker 1: Na ch yikes, Jay is still a dude.

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Speaker 6: I still love you, guys, but please, for the love

1182
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Speaker 6: of Jesus, never ever, ever, ever, ever lock up Louisville again. Okay,

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01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 6: thanks bye.

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Speaker 1: I know James Franklin isn't wearing a bald cap, but

1185
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 1: his head just kind of looks like he's wearing a

1186
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 1: bald cap all the time. Fire up chips, no, fire

1187
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Speaker 1: up ships. There we go eight five, five, verbal three.

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Speaker 1: A wonderful collection over bowlers as per usual. Dan Rubinstein, Yes,

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Speaker 1: let's bring this home. We got a couple questions that

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Speaker 1: have filed in here, this one from Trumpeter. Are we

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01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 1: all just diluting ourselves into thinking that Ohio State isn't

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01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 1: going back to back?

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01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 4: Maybe it's entirely possible. They looked really, really strong. They're defense.

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Speaker 4: They haven't a lot of touchdown in what three weeks

1196
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 4: or something crazy since the Ohio game. I want to say,

1197
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Speaker 4: they didn't allow it against Washington, didn't allow one against Minnesota.

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Speaker 4: They're not to get too into the weeds in this game.

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Speaker 4: I don't think they allowed a point after the first

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Speaker 4: Minnesota drive. Right the Minnesota scored three points in this game.

1201
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 4: That was the final tally for two. I just man

1202
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 4: Rvel Reese and Caleb downs on the same defense doing

1203
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 4: whatever they want. I just they're filthy and Carnel Tate downfields,

1204
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 4: Jeremiah Smith downfield or more intermediate. Today, I guess the

1205
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 4: run game came awake a little bit. But I'd rather

1206
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Speaker 4: have Ohio State than Miami. I probably would rather have

1207
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 4: Ohio State than Oregon in this moment. But I think

1208
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 4: it's very, very tight because I think Oregon's better on

1209
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 4: defense than they were last season.

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Speaker 2: But man, yeah, that's yeah. We're gonna have to make

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Speaker 2: peace with that.

1212
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to make peace with it. And though

1213
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: it was a popular talking point at the start of

1214
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 1: the year that Ohio State was losing a lot and

1215
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 1: they had to integrate a bunch of new pieces. It

1216
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 1: wasn't going to be the same team. I think that was,

1217
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 1: as Trevor points out, our way of maybe coping with

1218
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 1: the fact that Ohio State was still going to be very,

1219
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: very good. Yeah, and that the possibility of them going

1220
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 1: back to back was still very real. There was a

1221
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 1: reason why I think they were the championship favorite.

1222
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 4: Now, if you are going to say that you are

1223
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 4: discounting Organs win against a putrid Penn State because of

1224
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 4: how they look today, what exactly is the win that

1225
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 4: Ohio State has this season? And you can make an

1226
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 4: argument that the manner that they've won looks to be

1227
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 4: championship level. What is that team that you're like? Man,

1228
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 4: Since playing Ohio State, they've also looked terrific and just

1229
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 4: didn't against Ohio State. Texas hasn't looked good, Washington hasn't

1230
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 4: looked like. The offense against like Guppies has looked fine.

1231
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 4: They had no offense against Maryland for three quarters. They

1232
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 4: were it was a one touchdown game against Wazu late.

1233
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 4: Who is that team? I mean, I know you were

1234
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 4: a pff. Drake Lindsay guy. He did nothing against Ohio State. No, so,

1235
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 4: Ohio State may not have that win. They look like

1236
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 4: a championship team against their schedule thus far. But right

1237
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 4: as of now, there is no team where you're like

1238
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 4: they've otherwise looked good.

1239
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, coming up here, we're gonna find out.

1240
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll get a little bit more data. This coming week,

1241
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 1: they're on the road at Illinois. That'll be one of

1242
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 1: the big games of the week. That'll be the big

1243
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 1: noon game. They do have the game against Penn State.

1244
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I think some of the shine is off

1245
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 1: of that one.

1246
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 4: I've got the lost to Michigan at the end of

1247
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 4: the year.

1248
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 1: It's still going to obviously be a pretty big talking point.

1249
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 1: And then they're on the road in the Big House.

1250
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 1: As you said, the lost to Michigan at the end

1251
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 1: of the year November twenty ninth.

1252
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 2: We will see.

1253
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 1: I mean, there are a few other opportunities here for

1254
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 1: them to go up against some better competition. Not to

1255
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,439
Speaker 1: mention if they end up playing Oregon in the Big

1256
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 1: Ten title game, that could be another data point. But

1257
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 1: all signs at this point are pretty positive when it

1258
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 1: comes to the Buckeyes. I agree, all right, This one

1259
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 1: from Chaka or your G six favorites after a month

1260
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 1: and a half of the season.

1261
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 2: Great question.

1262
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 1: I think two lanes the answer. Really, I think tu

1263
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 1: Lane's probably the answer. Yeah.

1264
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 4: So November seventh, Tulane is on the road at Memphis, right,

1265
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 4: I believe there are a few teams so very quietly

1266
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 4: U and LV hasn't lost. Uh, Fresno lost to Kansas,

1267
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 4: but Fresno schedule is pretty good. I don't trust their

1268
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 4: past game. Long term, they could win double digit games.

1269
01:05:58,360 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 2: Though.

1270
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 4: Here's another quiet undefeated. The Midshipman of Navy have not

1271
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 4: lost a game yet. Correct fact check me on that. Okay,

1272
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:10,920
Speaker 4: but have you looked at Navy's schedule this season? We

1273
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 4: talked about Navy schedule in the preseason. In the preseason, Well,

1274
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 4: it's the same schedule as we looked at the and

1275
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 4: it finishes with at North Texas at Notre Dame Byron Brown,

1276
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 4: who I think went for three hundred and seventy three

1277
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 4: total yards today in USF at home at Memphis, and

1278
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 4: then the Army game whatever two and a half weeks later. WHOA,

1279
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 4: that's tough. So I think I favor Memphis lightly over

1280
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 4: Tulane at this point, just because the game is at

1281
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 4: Memphis and you know, having a win over an SEC team,

1282
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 4: and obviously Tulane has their Duke win, but I favor

1283
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 4: Memphis slightly. But I am taking note of teams who

1284
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 4: are taking care of business this first month of the season.

1285
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 1: I mean, the three teams that I would call out Tulane,

1286
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 1: South Florida, you know, I love South Florida. South Florida

1287
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 1: by the time all is said and done, could end

1288
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 1: up having a really good win over Florida. And we'll

1289
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 1: have to see how Boise ends up doing the remainder

1290
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 1: of their season, but those could end up being two

1291
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 1: monster non conference wins that do a lot of work

1292
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 1: for them through the eyes of the playoff committee. And

1293
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 1: then the other would be Memphis. You know, I think

1294
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 1: Memphis right now, despite the fact that they lost a

1295
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 1: lot from a year ago, Memphis is playing better defense

1296
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 1: than I expected, and I think that could end up

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Speaker 1: being like a real turning point for them in the season.

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Speaker 1: They're six and zero right now, and if you look

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Speaker 1: at the remainder of their schedule, I mean, you bring

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Speaker 1: up the game that they've got against Tulane second week

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Speaker 1: of November, but beyond that, it's a lot of teams

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Speaker 1: that look like they're very beatable. They've got USF, but

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Speaker 1: that's at home. They've got Navy, but that's at home.

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Speaker 1: Things set up pretty well for them, provided they can

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Speaker 1: keep trucking along.

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Speaker 4: You know who does not have either Memphis nor Tulane

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Speaker 4: according to the schedule. I'm looking at North Texas, the

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Speaker 4: mean green North Texas does have USF. I believe this

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Speaker 4: coming week, Week seven. That's a huge game in the

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Speaker 4: American But otherwise, UTSA, who just lost a Temple Charlotte

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Speaker 4: is in a rebuild. Navy will see. We just mentioned them.

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Speaker 4: They're undefeated, they're good, UAB is terrible, Rice is fine

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Speaker 4: but not amazing, and Temple will see. But they're also

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Speaker 4: in the middle of a rebuild. If North Texas's defense continues,

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Speaker 4: I think their offense is going to be good.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Hanging around man, final question here, can y'all give me

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Speaker 1: your top three risers and stinkers of the NL era? Okay,

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Speaker 1: bloods will be blue bloods. But who took advantage and

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Speaker 1: who has not taken advantage with respect to NIL?

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Speaker 2: Who pooped the bed?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, risers and stinkers of the NIL era. Well, the

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Speaker 4: NIL era is sort of tied to the Portal era,

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Speaker 4: so you know, limited sample size in this moment. But Indiana, Yeah, right,

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Speaker 4: they've come to play. Kurtz Signetti immediately got I mean

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Speaker 4: he's not nil, but I guess he is nil because

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Speaker 4: he's getting paid for his name, image and likeness. He

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Speaker 4: is extended and a monster in Indiana. Is that team

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Speaker 4: right now? Texas Tech will see the investment is there?

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Speaker 4: The results are TBD. They look like the strongest team

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Speaker 4: right now in the Big twelve, but there's a lot

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Speaker 4: of season left. I think they just got a commitment

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Speaker 4: from the number one defensive lineman of the class of

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty seven, which sounds like a fake year. I'm

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Speaker 4: going to further investigate to learn whether or not it's

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Speaker 4: a real year twenty twenty seven. Yeah, he's built like

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Speaker 4: Ford truck. He's a monster looked at.

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Speaker 1: I looked up his vitals before hitting go here, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's a pretty big get for them.

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Speaker 4: Yes, so they appear to be one of the winners.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to think of.

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Speaker 1: The other one that I would throw out. His old

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Speaker 1: miss sure, because Ole Missus is ever very active in

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Speaker 1: the portal and it seems like they've been able to

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Speaker 1: integrate guys pretty effectively a year in and year out, you know,

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Speaker 1: whether we're talking about like quarterback with just bringing over

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Speaker 1: Jackson Dart and turning him into a first round talent. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: what they're doing this year with Trinidad Chambliss is kind

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Speaker 1: of an entirely different thing. But they're getting a pretty

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Speaker 1: effective stat line out of him week in and week out,

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Speaker 1: and clearly they're an attraction in terms of getting guys

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Speaker 1: on campus. So I think ole Miss is one that

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Speaker 1: comes to mind. The question is I think a little

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Speaker 1: bit more complicated when you're talking about stinkers, you know,

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Speaker 1: because I think it's sure that you're going to have

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Speaker 1: schools that completely with Like an obvious example of that

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Speaker 1: will be Florida State last year. Florida State last year

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Speaker 1: tried a bunch of transfer maneuvers and il maneuvers and

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Speaker 1: none of it worked. That's why they want two games.

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Speaker 1: So we have some instances like that because so much

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Speaker 1: of this is dependent on the transfer portal. Now that

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Speaker 1: might be the most extreme example. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: it tends to be, you know, the type of thing

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Speaker 1: where we can very obviously point out who the stinkers are.

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Speaker 1: But we can clearly point out which players do not

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Speaker 1: work out. Like you can make a case that the

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Speaker 1: running back from Tulane who transferred up to Oregon, Makai

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Speaker 1: Kai Hughes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was.

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Speaker 1: A stinker in terms of the transfer portal because he

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Speaker 1: was not good enough. They paid him to come to

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Speaker 1: campus and he's gonna end up going somewhere else next year.

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Speaker 1: Oregon Bio large has not been a stinker with respect

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Speaker 1: to NIL or the transfer.

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Speaker 4: No, they've been a big winner, not even just because

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Speaker 4: of you know, finding transfers and the way that they recruit.

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Speaker 4: But they haven't lost a starter, I don't believe to

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Speaker 4: the portal. Notre Dame has done a really good job

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Speaker 4: in terms of retention and also stinkers in terms of

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Speaker 4: the Power Conference teams. Uh, look at the ones that

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Speaker 4: have fired their coaches because part of that, Like UCLA

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01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 4: has been a stinker in terms of NIL. Well, obviously

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Speaker 4: they got Nico and that paid off today. Oklahoma State,

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Speaker 4: we saw those stories. Virginia Tech just announced that they're

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Speaker 4: going to raise and invest a ton more in their

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Speaker 4: football program, which kind of points out to me that

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Speaker 4: it needed to happen, and they weren't anywhere near where

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Speaker 4: they needed to be. So that tends to be a

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Speaker 4: direction I would look in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, to only Arkansas.

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Speaker 4: Arkansas was famously artists, we're not weren't able to retain

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Speaker 4: quality players.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, And I mean it gets even more complicated

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Speaker 1: on the stinker side because you could argue that a

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Speaker 1: school like a Colorado is both a winner and a loser,

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Speaker 1: depending on your perspective. So that part is a little

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Speaker 1: bit more nuanced. But I think we have some obvious

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Speaker 1: answers with respect to who's been doing a pretty good

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Speaker 1: job of.

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Speaker 4: It, and you have some stinkers that are growing into

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Speaker 4: perhaps like USC is one of those teams that has

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Speaker 4: struggled to translate you know, nil and portal into consistent success.

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Speaker 4: But maybe they've turned a corner now, who knows.

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Speaker 1: Dan Rubenstein, let's close this thing out. As you know

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Speaker 1: often here on the show, we'd like to give out

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Speaker 1: dood alerts. Let's give out some dood alerts, shall we please.

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Speaker 1: Dood alerts are our version of players of the week.

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Speaker 1: We put out a call on social media, usually later

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01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 1: on at night, try and get the sense for who

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Speaker 1: deserves our praise. We had a bunch of names come in. Dan,

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Speaker 1: who do we got today?

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Speaker 4: Well, you mentioned the bear coat that Baylor players wear

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01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 4: after a turnover. But BYU employs a bear at quarterback. Yes,

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01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 4: Bear Bachmeier lit up West Virginia Friday nights and he's

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01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 4: been quietly very very good for BYU. So total dude

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01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 4: this week. Noah Fafida hasn't been good in a couple

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Speaker 4: of years. Guess what solves that? Playing Oklahoma State. Noah

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Speaker 4: Fafida welcome back to having a dude performance and absolutely was.

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01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 4: I'm gonna put Ty Simpson in there. I'm gonna put

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01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:02,919
Speaker 4: I mentioned Byron Brown going for three hundred and seventy

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01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 4: some odd total yards, ran for one sixty two. Jam

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01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 4: Miller Alabama with the big improvement on the ground, and

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01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 4: he was a major reason obviously why along with that

1424
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 4: offensive line. Carnell Tait went for over one hundred and

1425
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 4: eighty yards against a Minnesota defense that had thus far

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01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:21,680
Speaker 4: been pretty good. Hank Batty continues to make plays for Illinois.

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01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:24,559
Speaker 4: I thought he was super impressive. Michael Trigg for Baylor

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01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 4: got a couple of votes to Sean Singleton for Nebraska.

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01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 2: Two picks.

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01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:30,679
Speaker 4: Six tackles and a scoop and score that was called

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01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 4: back per chance on Twitter or whatever it's called now.

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01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 4: Dallas Wilson one game one dude performance, pretty good, ratio

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01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 4: not bad. I'm trying to think of anybody else. Jacob

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01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:47,600
Speaker 4: Rodriguez got a bunch for Texas Tech, and you're in

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01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 4: my Los Angeles Dodgers full of dudes winning Game one

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01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:50,839
Speaker 4: against the Phillies.

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01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 1: Come on, by the way, a crazy stat on bear

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01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:54,680
Speaker 1: Bachmeyer that I saw.

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01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:58,719
Speaker 4: Please so they win? To be clear, Tiger Bachmeyer's brother.

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01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 4: Tiger Bachmeyer's brother.

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01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 1: Yes, bear Bachmeyer starting quarterback number forty seven, which is

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01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 1: weird for BYU steps in after Retsliff leaves. He's been

1443
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 1: pretty good. This was a really good game for him

1444
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 1: at three hundred and fifty one yards. I am going

1445
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:17,599
Speaker 1: to start referring to him as the Bear. I've started

1446
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:19,680
Speaker 1: pulling sounds from the show FYI.

1447
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 4: The show The Bear. I haven't finished season whatever it

1448
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 4: was for yet. I won't spoil it.

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01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 2: I promise I appreciate it.

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01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:27,720
Speaker 1: That's not why I bring this up, though. Bear Bachmeyer

1451
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 1: connected with Chase Roberts laid in the second quarter for

1452
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:34,760
Speaker 1: an eighty five yard pass and ended up setting up

1453
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 1: a touchdown for LJ. Martin. That play was BYU's longest

1454
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 1: pass completion since nineteen ninety six. Dan, so it's been

1455
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:47,679
Speaker 1: a hot minute since they had an eighty five yard completion.

1456
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 1: But yes, we've got the bear. We've got Chase Roberts

1457
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 1: an eighty five yarder set up the touchdown most importantly,

1458
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:59,360
Speaker 1: But it's been a hot minute nineteen ninety six since

1459
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 1: they had that one of a pass completion. There you go,

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01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:07,160
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Speaker 2: What a guy, Tye is?

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Speaker 1: What a guy? What a guy you are? Dan, I'm

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Speaker 1: glad you're feeling better at least for me too. All righty,

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Speaker 1: you again so much for bearing with us here. More

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Speaker 1: into week seven, looks like it's going to be a banger. Damn.

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Speaker 1: It's like a lot of them are going to be

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Speaker 1: bangers moving forwards, so we've got them a lot more

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Speaker 1: football still to come. We hope you will be there

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Speaker 1: rest of your evening, Enjoy the rest of your day,

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01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 1: whenever it is you're listening to this For that guy

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01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 1: over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Tie Hildebrand.

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01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:29,719
Speaker 1: As always, you know the drill, Stay solid, Peace,