1 00:00:11,697 --> 00:00:14,937 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure 2 00:00:14,977 --> 00:00:17,977 Speaker 1: you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or 3 00:00:18,017 --> 00:00:21,537 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, welcome to the 4 00:00:21,537 --> 00:00:24,497 Speaker 1: Buck Brief. Wilfred Riley back in the mix. He is 5 00:00:24,697 --> 00:00:28,817 Speaker 1: a professor an author of lies. My liberal teacher told me, 6 00:00:29,137 --> 00:00:32,897 Speaker 1: Who's an excellent book. Highly recommend you get it. Professor. 7 00:00:33,177 --> 00:00:34,417 Speaker 1: Great to have you back in the mix. 8 00:00:35,537 --> 00:00:36,897 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on. Good to be back on 9 00:00:36,937 --> 00:00:37,297 Speaker 2: the show. 10 00:00:38,057 --> 00:00:41,217 Speaker 1: How are you feeling about the situation in this twenty 11 00:00:41,297 --> 00:00:45,617 Speaker 1: twenty four election right now? Kamala Harris. They're changing everything 12 00:00:45,657 --> 00:00:48,097 Speaker 1: about her. They're telling us all kinds of things that 13 00:00:48,137 --> 00:00:52,177 Speaker 1: are either untrue or they're saying things that we're true 14 00:00:52,257 --> 00:00:54,617 Speaker 1: or not true. What's going on? Is this going to work? 15 00:00:55,857 --> 00:00:57,177 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I'm kind of worried. As a guy 16 00:00:57,257 --> 00:01:01,937 Speaker 2: that generally votes Republican. I mean, I think it might work. Yeah. 17 00:01:02,097 --> 00:01:03,697 Speaker 2: I think what you had in this election where a 18 00:01:03,777 --> 00:01:06,337 Speaker 2: lot of the double haters I've heard people call him 19 00:01:06,377 --> 00:01:09,697 Speaker 2: from other consultants in my side field over to commentators 20 00:01:09,697 --> 00:01:12,977 Speaker 2: like Ben Shapiro. Those are people that just hated you know, 21 00:01:13,297 --> 00:01:16,537 Speaker 2: Orange Julius Caesar, Donald Trump, and that also hated Joe Biden, 22 00:01:16,617 --> 00:01:20,257 Speaker 2: who's been you know, dead for three years. They wanted nothing, 23 00:01:20,257 --> 00:01:24,617 Speaker 2: no part of either candidate. And now Biden is gone. 24 00:01:25,297 --> 00:01:28,657 Speaker 2: And Democrats who have been on the race and gender 25 00:01:28,737 --> 00:01:31,297 Speaker 2: bandwagon for a decade, now I have a chance to 26 00:01:31,377 --> 00:01:34,897 Speaker 2: vote for a black woman who's fifty nine, which is 27 00:01:34,937 --> 00:01:37,897 Speaker 2: a spring chicken in US politics right now. And so 28 00:01:38,057 --> 00:01:41,057 Speaker 2: you've seen that vote that was at fourteen percent for 29 00:01:41,097 --> 00:01:45,217 Speaker 2: Independence right for a while, RFK, Cornell West, all these people, 30 00:01:45,297 --> 00:01:48,137 Speaker 2: Jorgenson that we've got in the race. Technically that's down 31 00:01:48,177 --> 00:01:51,857 Speaker 2: to about five percent, and I think that's cut almost 32 00:01:51,897 --> 00:01:54,097 Speaker 2: all away from Trump. So I'm a little word. 33 00:01:55,737 --> 00:01:59,497 Speaker 1: I feel like in the end it'll all be okay. 34 00:01:59,537 --> 00:02:02,177 Speaker 1: But maybe I'm just that's a coping mechanism at this 35 00:02:02,257 --> 00:02:06,937 Speaker 1: point because the Trump campaign does seem to be a 36 00:02:06,977 --> 00:02:11,057 Speaker 1: little bit of a of a tough patch, rough spot. 37 00:02:11,217 --> 00:02:14,297 Speaker 1: I would say. I know they're bringing back Corey Lewandowski. 38 00:02:14,337 --> 00:02:16,377 Speaker 1: That was some of the news today from twenty sixteen. 39 00:02:16,537 --> 00:02:18,217 Speaker 1: He wasn't even on the campaign for that long in 40 00:02:18,257 --> 00:02:22,137 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. So it feels a bit like they are 41 00:02:22,217 --> 00:02:25,577 Speaker 1: unhappy at where the numbers have gone. But with Kamala Harris. 42 00:02:25,577 --> 00:02:30,457 Speaker 1: It's fascinating to me, Professor. It seems like everyone knows 43 00:02:30,537 --> 00:02:34,617 Speaker 1: that she's trying to do the bare minimum of campaigning 44 00:02:35,057 --> 00:02:37,457 Speaker 1: and that that's the best thing for her, and somehow 45 00:02:37,457 --> 00:02:39,977 Speaker 1: that doesn't seem to be a big problem. Right, Like 46 00:02:40,417 --> 00:02:44,017 Speaker 1: hiding from the public at some level is tactically smart 47 00:02:44,097 --> 00:02:46,777 Speaker 1: and everyone knows it, and no one seems to find 48 00:02:46,817 --> 00:02:49,297 Speaker 1: that to be disingenuous or dishonest. 49 00:02:50,377 --> 00:02:52,817 Speaker 2: Well, I think we've gotten used to this from these 50 00:02:52,857 --> 00:02:57,657 Speaker 2: politicians during COVID nineteen and then during mad guess this 51 00:02:57,737 --> 00:03:01,457 Speaker 2: is during COVID nineteen. I mean the Biden campaign, you know, 52 00:03:01,537 --> 00:03:04,817 Speaker 2: the subsequent this campaign where Biden didn't want to engage 53 00:03:04,817 --> 00:03:07,697 Speaker 2: Trump until that one disastrous debate. So, I mean, it's 54 00:03:07,817 --> 00:03:11,417 Speaker 2: almost Kamala Harris has taken some heat for giving the 55 00:03:11,497 --> 00:03:14,577 Speaker 2: same speech every time she talks, and I don't like 56 00:03:14,697 --> 00:03:17,097 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris, but I want to remind you guys that 57 00:03:17,097 --> 00:03:19,737 Speaker 2: that's called a stump speech. We used to see a 58 00:03:19,737 --> 00:03:22,257 Speaker 2: lot of this, where a politician would go give five 59 00:03:22,337 --> 00:03:24,777 Speaker 2: or six speeches a week and it'd all be eighty 60 00:03:24,817 --> 00:03:29,057 Speaker 2: percent identicals. You go to Cleveland, Cincinnati, Toledo, Dayton, That's 61 00:03:29,057 --> 00:03:31,697 Speaker 2: what they're supposed to do. So we've gotten used to 62 00:03:31,817 --> 00:03:37,377 Speaker 2: politicians not really engaging the media, not really engaging the public. Harris, 63 00:03:37,497 --> 00:03:39,497 Speaker 2: as I just implied, is actually doing that more than 64 00:03:39,537 --> 00:03:41,697 Speaker 2: a lot of people, so as Trump was doing israellies. 65 00:03:42,537 --> 00:03:45,897 Speaker 2: And the awkward reality there is that we're almost in September, 66 00:03:45,937 --> 00:03:49,697 Speaker 2: the elections in November. So can Harris get away without 67 00:03:49,737 --> 00:03:52,697 Speaker 2: more than say, two tough press conferences, without more than 68 00:03:52,697 --> 00:03:56,737 Speaker 2: one debate? Yeah? Probably, Like I don't think Harris would 69 00:03:56,737 --> 00:03:58,737 Speaker 2: have had much of a chance against Trump if this 70 00:03:58,777 --> 00:04:02,537 Speaker 2: had been a full on year and a half traditional campaign, 71 00:04:02,577 --> 00:04:03,297 Speaker 2: but it's not. 72 00:04:04,857 --> 00:04:08,817 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's remarkable that the truncated timeline does seem to 73 00:04:08,857 --> 00:04:12,337 Speaker 1: be uh, clearly an advantage for Harris, right. I mean, 74 00:04:12,577 --> 00:04:15,057 Speaker 1: I don't know anyone who's disagreeing with that right now, 75 00:04:15,457 --> 00:04:18,137 Speaker 1: and they're really hoping they can pull this off just 76 00:04:18,297 --> 00:04:21,657 Speaker 1: as as quickly as possible and with the bare minimum 77 00:04:21,697 --> 00:04:25,337 Speaker 1: of vetting. But what do we do with Actually, before 78 00:04:25,337 --> 00:04:27,097 Speaker 1: I get to that question, I want to ask you this, 79 00:04:27,697 --> 00:04:31,297 Speaker 1: what do you find to be the most objectionable thing 80 00:04:31,337 --> 00:04:35,577 Speaker 1: about Kamala Harris as somebody who is trying to become 81 00:04:35,577 --> 00:04:37,497 Speaker 1: president the United States? Like, what is the worst thing 82 00:04:37,497 --> 00:04:39,457 Speaker 1: about Harris as far as you can see. 83 00:04:40,937 --> 00:04:43,337 Speaker 2: It's not really I mean the things people bring up 84 00:04:43,337 --> 00:04:45,417 Speaker 2: about past dating and all that, it's not really any 85 00:04:45,457 --> 00:04:48,457 Speaker 2: of that at all. It's the most the most objectionable 86 00:04:48,457 --> 00:04:50,577 Speaker 2: thing about Kamala Harris I think is that she's not 87 00:04:50,937 --> 00:04:53,937 Speaker 2: the people's choice in any real way. And I mean 88 00:04:53,977 --> 00:04:56,857 Speaker 2: you could say, well, she might be if she wins 89 00:04:56,897 --> 00:04:59,257 Speaker 2: this election. I mean she might if she goes forward 90 00:04:59,257 --> 00:05:01,297 Speaker 2: and she gets fifty one percent over someone as popular 91 00:05:01,337 --> 00:05:04,897 Speaker 2: as Trump. Okay, you know she proved it. But Kamala 92 00:05:04,937 --> 00:05:08,497 Speaker 2: Harris has never gotten a vote in a presidential election. 93 00:05:09,177 --> 00:05:11,377 Speaker 2: I mean, this is someone we hear this. We hear 94 00:05:11,417 --> 00:05:13,377 Speaker 2: this about Advance. We even heard it about Obama. I 95 00:05:13,497 --> 00:05:15,577 Speaker 2: pay well, then the Senate for a year. Harris is 96 00:05:15,617 --> 00:05:17,137 Speaker 2: the classic example of this. I mean, she was a 97 00:05:17,137 --> 00:05:20,777 Speaker 2: short term senator from California. As I understand, she ran 98 00:05:20,817 --> 00:05:25,457 Speaker 2: against Joe Biden for the presidency and she was out 99 00:05:25,577 --> 00:05:29,097 Speaker 2: by the first primary. And she was pretty ruthless in 100 00:05:29,137 --> 00:05:31,337 Speaker 2: that campaign. I mean, she called Joe Biden a racist. 101 00:05:31,737 --> 00:05:33,697 Speaker 2: She said some things that were right on the verge 102 00:05:33,737 --> 00:05:36,257 Speaker 2: of lying, like when you know, I was a young 103 00:05:36,297 --> 00:05:38,537 Speaker 2: girl that had to be bussed to school and a 104 00:05:38,617 --> 00:05:42,217 Speaker 2: racist America. I mean, Kamala Harris grew up in Berkeley, 105 00:05:42,897 --> 00:05:45,697 Speaker 2: I mean in a wealthy Indian American household. As I recall, 106 00:05:45,737 --> 00:05:48,417 Speaker 2: the bust she took was to Magnet School. So I 107 00:05:48,417 --> 00:05:52,777 Speaker 2: mean she really went hard at mister Biden. You know, 108 00:05:53,217 --> 00:05:55,777 Speaker 2: despite that he said he wanted a diverse woman. He 109 00:05:55,857 --> 00:05:57,737 Speaker 2: kind of picked her up off the scrap peat she 110 00:05:57,777 --> 00:06:00,777 Speaker 2: became vice president. She was pulling at one point seventy 111 00:06:00,857 --> 00:06:04,057 Speaker 2: nine percent when he kind of rescued her. She became 112 00:06:04,057 --> 00:06:05,977 Speaker 2: the vice president. She was one of the least popular 113 00:06:06,097 --> 00:06:09,777 Speaker 2: vps we've had, and now all of a sudden, because 114 00:06:10,217 --> 00:06:12,577 Speaker 2: Biden is bringing her to the four against Trump. I mean, 115 00:06:13,217 --> 00:06:16,217 Speaker 2: she's polling very well. So we're in this weird situation 116 00:06:16,257 --> 00:06:19,537 Speaker 2: where we could see Kamala Harris win or narrowly lose 117 00:06:19,577 --> 00:06:23,537 Speaker 2: a presidential race despite never having gotten a presidential vote. 118 00:06:23,697 --> 00:06:26,537 Speaker 1: It does look a little bizarre, yes, And I think 119 00:06:26,577 --> 00:06:29,297 Speaker 1: also in the context of a party that had the 120 00:06:29,337 --> 00:06:34,337 Speaker 1: super delegates essentially rigged the system against Hillary in twenty sixteen, 121 00:06:34,977 --> 00:06:39,337 Speaker 1: and then had the party powers that be decide that 122 00:06:39,417 --> 00:06:42,417 Speaker 1: Joe Biden in twenty twenty would become the nominee after 123 00:06:42,497 --> 00:06:44,497 Speaker 1: he was way behind everybody else all of a sudden, 124 00:06:44,537 --> 00:06:47,457 Speaker 1: South Carolina. It does feel like there's a system at 125 00:06:47,457 --> 00:06:50,377 Speaker 1: work here that gets to make the important decisions for them. 126 00:06:50,377 --> 00:06:52,577 Speaker 1: But we'll come back into that. Priessor Ryley here in 127 00:06:52,617 --> 00:06:56,057 Speaker 1: just a second. You know, sponsor, this half hour is 128 00:06:56,337 --> 00:07:00,217 Speaker 1: a tunnel to Towers Foundation. Jerry Paget enlisted in the 129 00:07:00,337 --> 00:07:03,817 Speaker 1: US Navy and deployed multiple times to a rock in Afghanistan. 130 00:07:04,057 --> 00:07:06,817 Speaker 1: While on patrol in Afghanistan, Jerry was injured and improvised 131 00:07:06,857 --> 00:07:10,497 Speaker 1: explosive device blast. He starffered a spinal cord injury, traumatic 132 00:07:10,497 --> 00:07:13,497 Speaker 1: brain injury, and audio and visual impairments. 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Everyone knows that. 150 00:08:04,977 --> 00:08:08,257 Speaker 1: And they're trying to run stories about Kamala Harris as 151 00:08:08,257 --> 00:08:10,657 Speaker 1: though she's a border hawk. Now even some ads you've 152 00:08:10,657 --> 00:08:14,817 Speaker 1: probably seen these. Is the audience for this, essentially people 153 00:08:14,857 --> 00:08:19,497 Speaker 1: who are looking for an excuse to vote for Harris? 154 00:08:19,737 --> 00:08:22,257 Speaker 1: Or is the audience people that just don't know anything 155 00:08:22,457 --> 00:08:25,737 Speaker 1: and so you know they'll see this and actually believe it. 156 00:08:27,697 --> 00:08:31,017 Speaker 2: Well, I think the audience is Democrats and independents, So 157 00:08:31,097 --> 00:08:34,377 Speaker 2: I mean it's people who think that Harris is maybe 158 00:08:34,617 --> 00:08:38,337 Speaker 2: five percent too soft on the border and who are 159 00:08:38,417 --> 00:08:41,977 Speaker 2: ready to be convinced or something like that, Like who 160 00:08:42,017 --> 00:08:46,657 Speaker 2: could hear that Trump blocked a bipartisan immigration bill that 161 00:08:46,817 --> 00:08:51,017 Speaker 2: Harris supported. I mean, for conservatives who are fairly well 162 00:08:51,137 --> 00:08:53,777 Speaker 2: educated on immigration, the impression would be something like, well, 163 00:08:53,817 --> 00:08:57,457 Speaker 2: Harris is two hundred percent too soft on the border. 164 00:08:57,737 --> 00:08:59,577 Speaker 2: I mean, there tends to be some knowledge from your 165 00:08:59,617 --> 00:09:01,777 Speaker 2: audience in mind that Harris was, in fact the quote 166 00:09:01,817 --> 00:09:04,057 Speaker 2: unquote borders are That's a pretty good title for it. 167 00:09:04,377 --> 00:09:07,297 Speaker 2: So people aren't really gonna fall for the nonsense. But 168 00:09:07,337 --> 00:09:09,097 Speaker 2: I mean you're pitching people who don't really know a 169 00:09:09,097 --> 00:09:12,017 Speaker 2: lot about immigration, and you're pitching people who are from 170 00:09:12,057 --> 00:09:13,937 Speaker 2: her party who think she was just a little bit 171 00:09:13,977 --> 00:09:17,297 Speaker 2: on the soft side. Yeah, that's what your target base 172 00:09:17,537 --> 00:09:20,217 Speaker 2: is going to be there. And I mean there's a 173 00:09:20,257 --> 00:09:23,337 Speaker 2: lot of stuff like this. I mean generally when you 174 00:09:23,417 --> 00:09:28,177 Speaker 2: do something like I mean the bearded white guys for 175 00:09:28,377 --> 00:09:31,257 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris call, where you had all these guys, I mean, 176 00:09:31,257 --> 00:09:33,777 Speaker 2: some of them were a feat nerds, but some of 177 00:09:33,777 --> 00:09:36,617 Speaker 2: them were in a pretty good lumberjack cosplay. But where 178 00:09:36,657 --> 00:09:38,377 Speaker 2: all of them were saying, you know, as a white 179 00:09:38,417 --> 00:09:41,537 Speaker 2: man who played Gannadelf on television, I'll be given to 180 00:09:41,577 --> 00:09:45,417 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris, You're not really pitching to base camps in 181 00:09:45,537 --> 00:09:48,057 Speaker 2: North Dakota. And so with that sort of thing. What 182 00:09:48,057 --> 00:09:52,337 Speaker 2: you're doing is appealing to a general, mostly female audience 183 00:09:52,337 --> 00:09:55,577 Speaker 2: of independence by saying, well, look, I mean there's a 184 00:09:55,617 --> 00:09:58,537 Speaker 2: diverse pool of people coming out for this candidate. I mean, 185 00:09:58,577 --> 00:10:00,417 Speaker 2: I would assume that one of the big effects of 186 00:10:00,457 --> 00:10:03,497 Speaker 2: that is that you increase donations from white women. So 187 00:10:03,777 --> 00:10:06,537 Speaker 2: there's actually a sophisticated kind of chess play that goes 188 00:10:06,577 --> 00:10:07,417 Speaker 2: on with that kind of thing. 189 00:10:08,897 --> 00:10:12,737 Speaker 1: He's I'm the wrong candidate now that Kamala Harris is 190 00:10:12,737 --> 00:10:13,777 Speaker 1: the Democrat candidate. 191 00:10:15,297 --> 00:10:17,337 Speaker 2: That's actually a great question. I mean, is Trump the 192 00:10:17,417 --> 00:10:19,857 Speaker 2: wrong candidate? I mean, I've I've always liked the big 193 00:10:19,857 --> 00:10:23,417 Speaker 2: guy myself, but I mean, so Trump's advantages over Biden 194 00:10:24,097 --> 00:10:27,097 Speaker 2: were very clear and evident. I mean, so Trump is 195 00:10:27,137 --> 00:10:30,817 Speaker 2: an older guy, but he's this big, vigorous man. He's 196 00:10:31,457 --> 00:10:34,737 Speaker 2: mid seventies. Biden, as I believe, over eighties eighty one. 197 00:10:35,937 --> 00:10:38,657 Speaker 2: So Trump can come out and make Biden look pretty foolish. 198 00:10:38,937 --> 00:10:41,577 Speaker 2: But I mean mid to late seventies, that's pretty old. 199 00:10:41,697 --> 00:10:45,377 Speaker 2: So when Harris, who's fifty nine, comes out and speaks, 200 00:10:45,457 --> 00:10:47,457 Speaker 2: and you have Trump on the other side of the podium, 201 00:10:48,017 --> 00:10:50,337 Speaker 2: it's possible for her to do to him what Trump 202 00:10:50,337 --> 00:10:54,857 Speaker 2: did to Biden. Yeah, and a lot of Harris also, 203 00:10:54,937 --> 00:10:58,577 Speaker 2: as a black woman, has advantages on the Democratic side 204 00:10:58,857 --> 00:11:02,977 Speaker 2: that Biden really didn't. The Democrats have played a race 205 00:11:03,017 --> 00:11:05,017 Speaker 2: and sex based game for a really long time. So 206 00:11:05,137 --> 00:11:07,977 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris is kind of a dream candidate for a 207 00:11:08,017 --> 00:11:10,577 Speaker 2: lot of their basis. I mean, black women are the 208 00:11:10,777 --> 00:11:15,577 Speaker 2: most reliable Democratic voting block, and Kamala Harris can do 209 00:11:15,737 --> 00:11:20,217 Speaker 2: the entire dim pitch to them, like every four years, 210 00:11:20,257 --> 00:11:23,177 Speaker 2: you have to come out and save America, my sisters. 211 00:11:23,657 --> 00:11:28,217 Speaker 2: I went to Howard I pled aka Alpha Kappa Alpha. 212 00:11:28,857 --> 00:11:32,537 Speaker 2: You know, I'm not going to do the sorority noise, 213 00:11:32,697 --> 00:11:34,377 Speaker 2: you know, but like it's just like, I mean I've 214 00:11:34,417 --> 00:11:36,457 Speaker 2: dated people that are from that background. Like it's going 215 00:11:36,537 --> 00:11:40,497 Speaker 2: to be pretty effective that the whole like boss lady thing, 216 00:11:40,657 --> 00:11:43,097 Speaker 2: race aside, all of that is going to be brought 217 00:11:43,137 --> 00:11:47,177 Speaker 2: against Trump. I mean Trump was civilly found liable not 218 00:11:47,217 --> 00:11:50,577 Speaker 2: of rape and all, but of sexual assault public sexual 219 00:11:50,617 --> 00:11:53,577 Speaker 2: contact with a woman like Harris can bring all that 220 00:11:53,617 --> 00:11:57,737 Speaker 2: against Trump. Whereas Biden, who's an older male and a 221 00:11:57,777 --> 00:12:00,777 Speaker 2: Brooks brother suit who also has been charged with worse 222 00:12:00,857 --> 00:12:03,337 Speaker 2: sexual contact. I mean, he could not have done any 223 00:12:03,337 --> 00:12:03,497 Speaker 2: of that. 224 00:12:04,937 --> 00:12:07,377 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's get into what you think Trump can 225 00:12:07,417 --> 00:12:10,657 Speaker 1: do to offset some of that and to get back 226 00:12:10,737 --> 00:12:15,017 Speaker 1: on track here for a win. But first up, there's 227 00:12:15,017 --> 00:12:16,897 Speaker 1: a lot happening. We're talking about it here on the show. 228 00:12:16,937 --> 00:12:19,297 Speaker 1: A lot going on week in, week out, and that's 229 00:12:19,297 --> 00:12:22,537 Speaker 1: why I've launched a new E newsletter and it's going 230 00:12:22,617 --> 00:12:25,057 Speaker 1: to keep you informed about politics, court events, and also 231 00:12:25,097 --> 00:12:27,577 Speaker 1: the markets. Now I'm not a market's guy. 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You can 241 00:12:58,097 --> 00:13:00,537 Speaker 1: go check it out for yourself and sign up right now. 242 00:13:00,897 --> 00:13:04,817 Speaker 1: Go to the Urgent Message dot com. The Urgent Message 243 00:13:04,857 --> 00:13:09,297 Speaker 1: dot Com Professor Riiley is what does Trump have to 244 00:13:09,297 --> 00:13:11,337 Speaker 1: accomplish betwe now in the election to win this. 245 00:13:11,337 --> 00:13:16,817 Speaker 2: Election, Well, that's a good question. I think what Trump 246 00:13:16,857 --> 00:13:20,937 Speaker 2: has to accomplish is getting his voters as excited as 247 00:13:20,977 --> 00:13:25,057 Speaker 2: Harris's voters and getting them out to the pulls. And 248 00:13:25,137 --> 00:13:28,497 Speaker 2: it's going to be somewhat uphill for Trump because he 249 00:13:28,537 --> 00:13:31,377 Speaker 2: also has to overcome a certain degree of I don't 250 00:13:31,417 --> 00:13:36,297 Speaker 2: say cheating, but flexibility in the voting rules that benefits 251 00:13:36,337 --> 00:13:39,257 Speaker 2: the other party. So like when we talk about the 252 00:13:39,377 --> 00:13:43,377 Speaker 2: last election, I mean, people ask was the election rigged? 253 00:13:43,417 --> 00:13:47,337 Speaker 2: Almost every time as a right leaning political consultant, you talk, 254 00:13:47,817 --> 00:13:49,457 Speaker 2: and there are two ways to look at that. One 255 00:13:49,617 --> 00:13:53,137 Speaker 2: is like, did they actually have boxes of fake votes 256 00:13:53,497 --> 00:13:56,897 Speaker 2: hidden under tables in Chicago? And, as tempting as it 257 00:13:56,937 --> 00:13:59,417 Speaker 2: is to say yes as a former Chicago businessman, no, 258 00:13:59,497 --> 00:14:03,657 Speaker 2: probably not. But the second question is were there people 259 00:14:03,857 --> 00:14:08,017 Speaker 2: that were by one vote in state legislatures with a 260 00:14:08,057 --> 00:14:12,457 Speaker 2: two vote Democratic margin changing the election laws so that 261 00:14:12,537 --> 00:14:16,657 Speaker 2: you could vote by mail for four weeks before the election, 262 00:14:16,857 --> 00:14:20,657 Speaker 2: with votes being counted for six days after the election, 263 00:14:20,777 --> 00:14:22,657 Speaker 2: this sort of thing like we both know that happened, 264 00:14:23,137 --> 00:14:26,337 Speaker 2: I mean, and there were votes being counted for a 265 00:14:26,457 --> 00:14:29,937 Speaker 2: week in some states after voting had closed. I mean, 266 00:14:29,977 --> 00:14:33,257 Speaker 2: there's that famous graphic of his boxes of votes were 267 00:14:33,297 --> 00:14:37,097 Speaker 2: coming in, the vote totals changing from pro Trump to 268 00:14:37,697 --> 00:14:41,137 Speaker 2: pro Biden. Now that I actually I'm a trained statistician, 269 00:14:41,177 --> 00:14:44,417 Speaker 2: that does not necessarily indicate technical fraud. But what it 270 00:14:44,457 --> 00:14:48,217 Speaker 2: does indicate is something that you almost never see in 271 00:14:48,257 --> 00:14:51,817 Speaker 2: a first world electoral process. I mean, you don't normally 272 00:14:51,857 --> 00:14:55,857 Speaker 2: allow people to fill out ballots and then put four 273 00:14:55,897 --> 00:14:58,257 Speaker 2: of them in the same time in the mailbox in 274 00:14:58,297 --> 00:15:00,577 Speaker 2: front of their house and wait for someone else to 275 00:15:00,617 --> 00:15:03,537 Speaker 2: collect them. And all of that stuff advantages the Democrats 276 00:15:03,577 --> 00:15:07,737 Speaker 2: who live in concentrated urban areas, who have well organized 277 00:15:07,777 --> 00:15:11,777 Speaker 2: ballot harvesting operations. I don't know why there was never 278 00:15:11,817 --> 00:15:14,297 Speaker 2: any mainstream media attention paid to this, but there's quite 279 00:15:14,337 --> 00:15:18,057 Speaker 2: a famous Veritas or something video of someone in ilhan 280 00:15:18,137 --> 00:15:21,057 Speaker 2: Omar's Minneapolis driving around with a car full of votes saying, 281 00:15:21,297 --> 00:15:22,977 Speaker 2: you know, I got them pretty much legally, but here's 282 00:15:22,977 --> 00:15:25,937 Speaker 2: a car full of votes. So the Republicans are going 283 00:15:25,977 --> 00:15:28,057 Speaker 2: to have to overcome all of that, which is worth 284 00:15:28,057 --> 00:15:31,897 Speaker 2: maybe half a point point. So to do that, Trump 285 00:15:31,977 --> 00:15:35,497 Speaker 2: is going to have to have a really on point message, 286 00:15:35,617 --> 00:15:38,697 Speaker 2: a really on point operation Now, when I think Trump, 287 00:15:38,777 --> 00:15:40,657 Speaker 2: I think, you know, a decent, effective leader. I don't 288 00:15:40,657 --> 00:15:43,937 Speaker 2: actually think really on point. I don't think a guy 289 00:15:44,057 --> 00:15:47,857 Speaker 2: in every state of you know, Scott Presler quality going 290 00:15:47,897 --> 00:15:53,137 Speaker 2: out knocking on doors, getting everyone ready to go on message. Unfortunately, 291 00:15:53,857 --> 00:15:56,377 Speaker 2: I do think that Trump has a pretty effective message, 292 00:15:56,377 --> 00:15:58,657 Speaker 2: which is that Biden has been one of the worst 293 00:15:58,697 --> 00:16:01,537 Speaker 2: presidents in recent history. And I don't say that just 294 00:16:01,577 --> 00:16:03,817 Speaker 2: because I'm more likely to vote for the other party. 295 00:16:03,817 --> 00:16:06,937 Speaker 2: I mean, when you think about the Biden administration, there's 296 00:16:07,017 --> 00:16:11,697 Speaker 2: been kind of this default if you've ever owned a parrot, 297 00:16:11,777 --> 00:16:15,497 Speaker 2: kind of almost avian squat from the media, best ever. 298 00:16:16,057 --> 00:16:18,537 Speaker 2: But I mean, like, if you look at what's happened, 299 00:16:18,577 --> 00:16:22,937 Speaker 2: I mean, you saw crime after George Floyd skyrocket over 300 00:16:22,977 --> 00:16:25,417 Speaker 2: twenty thousand murders for two or three years, I mean 301 00:16:25,457 --> 00:16:28,097 Speaker 2: twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two. You can't 302 00:16:28,097 --> 00:16:30,577 Speaker 2: blame that on Trump. Trump's that office for two of 303 00:16:30,617 --> 00:16:33,257 Speaker 2: those years. I mean, inflation got up to nine percent. 304 00:16:33,337 --> 00:16:37,657 Speaker 2: This went on until early last year. I mean immigration, 305 00:16:37,897 --> 00:16:40,857 Speaker 2: this has been yeah, bad, it's a bad recon good 306 00:16:40,897 --> 00:16:41,537 Speaker 2: good summary. 307 00:16:41,777 --> 00:16:44,857 Speaker 1: It's been pretty crazy the whole twenty two because Kamala. 308 00:16:45,297 --> 00:16:48,857 Speaker 1: Depending on what the issue is is either a continuation 309 00:16:49,257 --> 00:16:53,497 Speaker 1: of the Biden legacy or has nothing to do with Biden, right, 310 00:16:53,537 --> 00:16:55,817 Speaker 1: and it changes day to day. It's it's been a 311 00:16:55,817 --> 00:16:58,737 Speaker 1: pretty pretty astonishing process to see how that goes. I 312 00:16:58,737 --> 00:17:00,217 Speaker 1: want to ask you about the debates here in just 313 00:17:00,257 --> 00:17:03,737 Speaker 1: a second. 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Go 330 00:17:55,657 --> 00:18:00,697 Speaker 1: pick up your copy, Professor. The debates we've got Harris 331 00:18:00,737 --> 00:18:03,777 Speaker 1: and Trump in two that have been agreed on. She 332 00:18:03,817 --> 00:18:05,737 Speaker 1: won't do Fox News, which I said on radio, there's 333 00:18:05,737 --> 00:18:07,657 Speaker 1: no way she's going to the Fox News debate, and 334 00:18:08,697 --> 00:18:11,377 Speaker 1: which is ridiculous, but that's the way it. Jd Vance 335 00:18:11,537 --> 00:18:16,777 Speaker 1: and Tim Walls Mono amano one time. Does it matter? 336 00:18:17,257 --> 00:18:20,897 Speaker 1: If so, why or if not why? 337 00:18:21,657 --> 00:18:24,337 Speaker 2: Well, the debates do matter, because I mean, as we 338 00:18:24,377 --> 00:18:27,217 Speaker 2: saw with Joe Biden, a good debate can really make 339 00:18:27,337 --> 00:18:30,657 Speaker 2: or break a race. I don't expect Trump and Harris 340 00:18:30,657 --> 00:18:33,017 Speaker 2: are both fairly good debaters. I mean, they both have 341 00:18:33,057 --> 00:18:35,177 Speaker 2: the potential for an embarrassing moment, but I don't really 342 00:18:35,217 --> 00:18:40,097 Speaker 2: see that as incredibly likely. You know, I think Harris 343 00:18:40,097 --> 00:18:43,337 Speaker 2: will come at Trump and try to play the tough prosecutor, 344 00:18:43,577 --> 00:18:46,497 Speaker 2: you know, saying things like you're convicted of thirty four felonies. 345 00:18:46,777 --> 00:18:49,377 Speaker 2: I'm the kind of person that puts bad white men 346 00:18:49,457 --> 00:18:52,297 Speaker 2: like you in jail. But I mean I think Trump 347 00:18:52,337 --> 00:18:54,817 Speaker 2: can come back and easily note, well, you haven't put 348 00:18:54,817 --> 00:18:57,217 Speaker 2: a lot of people in jail recently at all, have you, 349 00:18:57,537 --> 00:19:00,497 Speaker 2: And bring up crime, bring up the border. The borders 350 00:19:00,537 --> 00:19:03,217 Speaker 2: are role so on down the line. You know, the 351 00:19:03,217 --> 00:19:05,497 Speaker 2: only people you put in jail were poor young black 352 00:19:05,537 --> 00:19:08,377 Speaker 2: men with bags of weed twenty five years ago. So 353 00:19:08,457 --> 00:19:10,697 Speaker 2: they can go back and forth at each other. The 354 00:19:10,817 --> 00:19:13,817 Speaker 2: Vance Walls debate. I'd give the edge to Vance there 355 00:19:13,937 --> 00:19:17,617 Speaker 2: because of the quote unquote stolen valor issue, and I 356 00:19:17,657 --> 00:19:19,177 Speaker 2: mean I looked into that and it seems like this 357 00:19:19,217 --> 00:19:21,457 Speaker 2: is a real albatross for Tim Walls. Like I feel 358 00:19:21,457 --> 00:19:24,897 Speaker 2: like Harris didn't have the time to investigate this. You know, 359 00:19:25,057 --> 00:19:27,377 Speaker 2: Walls was a guy who was in the National Guard 360 00:19:27,417 --> 00:19:30,297 Speaker 2: for twenty four years, didn't deploy beyond trips to Italy 361 00:19:30,337 --> 00:19:33,617 Speaker 2: and Germany, and essentially found out his regiment was going 362 00:19:33,657 --> 00:19:37,217 Speaker 2: to be sent to Iraq and left. I mean mentioned 363 00:19:37,217 --> 00:19:39,097 Speaker 2: that he was in the middle of a congressional race, 364 00:19:39,617 --> 00:19:43,897 Speaker 2: filed papers of separation papers to leave the military. Obviously 365 00:19:43,897 --> 00:19:45,697 Speaker 2: pulled some strings because he was in the middle of 366 00:19:45,697 --> 00:19:47,697 Speaker 2: that that run for a power position to get out. 367 00:19:47,777 --> 00:19:49,777 Speaker 2: You can't separate after four years if you're in for 368 00:19:49,857 --> 00:19:51,657 Speaker 2: six have a lot of buddies in the military and 369 00:19:51,697 --> 00:19:55,777 Speaker 2: officer roles not out. He was able to leave and JD. 370 00:19:55,937 --> 00:19:58,297 Speaker 2: Vance was a He was a combat marine. I mean 371 00:19:58,337 --> 00:20:00,057 Speaker 2: he was in a combat zone. I don't know if 372 00:20:00,057 --> 00:20:03,577 Speaker 2: he took fire himself, but I mean that's something that 373 00:20:04,017 --> 00:20:05,657 Speaker 2: is going to be brought up. The other thing with this, 374 00:20:05,777 --> 00:20:08,817 Speaker 2: because otherwise they both would have served honorably. Walls seems 375 00:20:08,857 --> 00:20:12,057 Speaker 2: to have spent years arguing that he was in not 376 00:20:12,137 --> 00:20:14,777 Speaker 2: just a war, but a combat zone. I mean he's 377 00:20:14,817 --> 00:20:16,777 Speaker 2: said things like, I care no one should carry an 378 00:20:16,977 --> 00:20:19,617 Speaker 2: AR fifteen like I did in the war. Like I've 379 00:20:19,657 --> 00:20:21,897 Speaker 2: listened to these quotes, and as someone who respects the troops, 380 00:20:21,937 --> 00:20:24,857 Speaker 2: I listened with the most sympathetic here possible. It's it's 381 00:20:24,897 --> 00:20:27,617 Speaker 2: impossible to mistake. I mean he did this over and 382 00:20:27,657 --> 00:20:30,297 Speaker 2: over again. I mean his Congressional medal, the sort that 383 00:20:30,337 --> 00:20:32,857 Speaker 2: they can give to friends and local leaders. I mean 384 00:20:32,897 --> 00:20:36,377 Speaker 2: it has a command sergeant major's insigny on it. You 385 00:20:36,417 --> 00:20:39,297 Speaker 2: can just google Walls metal and you'll see it. I 386 00:20:39,297 --> 00:20:41,857 Speaker 2: mean it's the top, rocker the bottom. It's got ten 387 00:20:41,937 --> 00:20:44,617 Speaker 2: stripes on it, star in the middle. So I mean 388 00:20:44,817 --> 00:20:47,057 Speaker 2: I think jad Vance is going to be savvy enough 389 00:20:47,097 --> 00:20:50,657 Speaker 2: about the military speaking to a heavily Republican audience to 390 00:20:51,057 --> 00:20:53,697 Speaker 2: point some of that out, to have drawings with him 391 00:20:53,697 --> 00:20:56,137 Speaker 2: and so on. So I think Vance wins out. Walls 392 00:20:56,177 --> 00:20:57,897 Speaker 2: is probably going to try to play the weird card. 393 00:20:58,377 --> 00:21:00,497 Speaker 2: But by this point Van's is dirty tricks guys, if 394 00:21:00,497 --> 00:21:03,337 Speaker 2: you're on Twitter, of similar stories about Wall. So both 395 00:21:03,337 --> 00:21:06,817 Speaker 2: of them may just avoid mutually assured destruction there. In 396 00:21:06,897 --> 00:21:11,257 Speaker 2: terms of actual practice, I think Vance has a heavy 397 00:21:11,257 --> 00:21:14,737 Speaker 2: advantage there. Trump and Harris, i'd expect a more even fight. 398 00:21:15,457 --> 00:21:18,097 Speaker 2: Again right now, I'd give Harris a slight advantage just 399 00:21:18,217 --> 00:21:20,977 Speaker 2: based on that edge of novelty. And again, this is 400 00:21:21,017 --> 00:21:24,497 Speaker 2: something a Republican can never forget, the electoral advantage of 401 00:21:24,537 --> 00:21:26,617 Speaker 2: the way the election is structured, and the fact that 402 00:21:26,657 --> 00:21:29,937 Speaker 2: Harris has the entire media behind her running stories like 403 00:21:29,977 --> 00:21:32,257 Speaker 2: this is the Kamala Namenat. That's a real headline. 404 00:21:33,497 --> 00:21:36,537 Speaker 1: Well, I know the media has been doing crazy stuff, 405 00:21:36,657 --> 00:21:39,537 Speaker 1: creating this whole it's fabricating this whole narrative. Aou kama. 406 00:21:39,657 --> 00:21:42,337 Speaker 1: Before I let you go, your professor, you're a very 407 00:21:42,417 --> 00:21:45,137 Speaker 1: very well read guy. We've talked before about some history stuff. 408 00:21:45,417 --> 00:21:47,937 Speaker 1: It's mid August. Some people like me are gonna be 409 00:21:47,977 --> 00:21:50,497 Speaker 1: taking off some time soon. Want a book to read. 410 00:21:50,777 --> 00:21:53,177 Speaker 1: If someone's looking for a book to read, a history 411 00:21:53,177 --> 00:21:58,737 Speaker 1: recommendation that you would say is just can't miss. It's 412 00:21:58,737 --> 00:22:02,297 Speaker 1: so well written, such an interesting topic. What would it be. 413 00:22:02,337 --> 00:22:05,217 Speaker 1: What would be your recommendation for whether you're by the lake, 414 00:22:05,297 --> 00:22:08,497 Speaker 1: the pool, the you know, out in the woods, whatever. 415 00:22:10,297 --> 00:22:11,777 Speaker 2: I am, my buddies. Right now, we're reading some of 416 00:22:11,777 --> 00:22:14,497 Speaker 2: those really manly man's history books, like one is called 417 00:22:14,497 --> 00:22:17,497 Speaker 2: The Washing of the Spears, which is about the Bantu migration. 418 00:22:18,057 --> 00:22:21,457 Speaker 2: The Bantu migration is the forgotten Great Conquest. It's how 419 00:22:21,457 --> 00:22:24,457 Speaker 2: the sort of medieval tech level black people that we 420 00:22:24,497 --> 00:22:26,937 Speaker 2: think of as black took over Africa. There used to 421 00:22:26,977 --> 00:22:29,457 Speaker 2: be a lot of other people in Africa, Pigmies which 422 00:22:29,537 --> 00:22:34,537 Speaker 2: call Koiitson, bushmen, coastal Caucasians, basically whites North Africans. Now 423 00:22:34,537 --> 00:22:37,377 Speaker 2: there aren't. The Black warriors basically killed them all got 424 00:22:37,377 --> 00:22:39,857 Speaker 2: a little more primitive as they moved south. So Washing 425 00:22:39,897 --> 00:22:41,537 Speaker 2: of the Spears is about the Zulus and all that 426 00:22:41,577 --> 00:22:44,737 Speaker 2: how they came into South Africa. The Zulus invading from 427 00:22:44,817 --> 00:22:48,097 Speaker 2: the north basically got into South Africa when the whites 428 00:22:48,177 --> 00:22:50,857 Speaker 2: invading from the south got into South Africa, and this 429 00:22:50,937 --> 00:22:52,897 Speaker 2: proved to be very bad for like the sort of 430 00:22:52,937 --> 00:22:55,017 Speaker 2: lovely sheep hurting people that were there at the time. 431 00:22:55,457 --> 00:22:57,617 Speaker 2: So The Washing of the Spears is a good book 432 00:22:57,617 --> 00:23:01,657 Speaker 2: about the Zulu Wars. There's another one called The Wheel, 433 00:23:01,737 --> 00:23:04,257 Speaker 2: the Horse and Fire or something. You'll google The Wheel, 434 00:23:04,257 --> 00:23:06,217 Speaker 2: the Horse, you'll find it. But that's the one we 435 00:23:06,217 --> 00:23:08,177 Speaker 2: have queued up. After that. It's about the yam Naya. 436 00:23:08,777 --> 00:23:12,017 Speaker 2: There were these fairly civil, sort of chariot writing people 437 00:23:12,057 --> 00:23:15,217 Speaker 2: that existed before recorded history. They had kind of a 438 00:23:15,217 --> 00:23:17,337 Speaker 2: written language, they just couldn't really figure out how to 439 00:23:17,337 --> 00:23:20,417 Speaker 2: write it down before paper. But those were the people 440 00:23:20,417 --> 00:23:23,057 Speaker 2: that came out of like the Great Step and sort 441 00:23:23,097 --> 00:23:27,257 Speaker 2: of began European civilization. And they were almost forgotten until 442 00:23:27,257 --> 00:23:30,097 Speaker 2: people started doing archaeology out in the Sea of Grass 443 00:23:30,137 --> 00:23:32,737 Speaker 2: there and they had had some amazing, beautiful stuff. So 444 00:23:32,777 --> 00:23:35,457 Speaker 2: we're now starting to rediscover them. So those are my 445 00:23:35,537 --> 00:23:38,297 Speaker 2: two books about like historical travels and conquests. Right now, 446 00:23:38,337 --> 00:23:40,897 Speaker 2: what one group of white guys, one group of black guys. 447 00:23:41,697 --> 00:23:43,657 Speaker 1: All right, there we go, I'm gonna pick them up 448 00:23:43,697 --> 00:23:46,577 Speaker 1: and lies my liberal teacher told me, which is Wilford 449 00:23:46,617 --> 00:23:50,217 Speaker 1: Riley's book. Professor, have a great rest of summer. We'll 450 00:23:50,257 --> 00:23:52,057 Speaker 1: talk to you after Labor Day, and thanks so much 451 00:23:52,057 --> 00:23:53,057 Speaker 1: for being with us. 452 00:23:53,497 --> 00:23:54,817 Speaker 2: Thank you, sir, thanks for having me on