Speaker 1: All from Connor?
Speaker 2: Hello?
Speaker 1: Hello?
Speaker 2: Is this what I say is echo?
Speaker 3: Guy?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: This is who you think it is. It's the guy
Speaker 2: you're doing buddy? How you doing?
Speaker 1: Man? I'm doing all right. How are you?
Speaker 2: I'm okay, I'm I am. You know, I don't know
Speaker 2: man A lot. So life is a series of uh
Speaker 2: you you you keep going to you wake up and
Speaker 2: you do things and then you go to bed.
Speaker 1: Right, I hear that.
Speaker 2: You hear that, but I know you know enough waxing whatever?
Speaker 2: What's up with you? Man? What's going on? What's your name?
Speaker 1: First of all, my name is Connor.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm just sitting here in the BUCkies parking lot.
Speaker 3: I pulled over because you called and I recognize the
Speaker 3: area code.
Speaker 2: Oh fuck? What did you get at BUCkies?
Speaker 3: I was gonna get gas, but then I saw you collin,
Speaker 3: So I've postponed that for a minute.
Speaker 1: Hopefully my car doesn't run out. I've been sitting here.
Speaker 2: What is the car on?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Well, well, well, how bunch gas is left in it?
Speaker 2: Right now?
Speaker 3: I have forty nine miles, so we've got a time
Speaker 3: frame here. I'm not turning my air conditioning on.
Speaker 2: Wait are you driving right now?
Speaker 1: No? No, no, no, no, I'm sitting there. I'm sitting
Speaker 1: in BUCkies.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, So why would the car why would it
Speaker 2: run out of Why would either you or the BUCkies
Speaker 2: run out of gas?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm real scattered right right now, I'll
Speaker 1: be honest.
Speaker 2: That's all right, man, did you get any beaver nuggets?
Speaker 2: Do you know what a beaver nugget is? The beaver nuggets?
Speaker 3: I do know what a beaver nugget is. I'm uh,
Speaker 3: the food is tempting because I'm really hungry, but I'm
Speaker 3: sitting here with my buddy. We're going to get dinner
Speaker 3: after this. Oh I'm going to try and keep myne
Speaker 3: I've postponed the dinner to talk to you.
Speaker 2: If your friend is in the car with you, he is.
Speaker 3: He just took a picture of me talking to you
Speaker 3: because he knows you too.
Speaker 2: Oh okay. I was going to ask if it was
Speaker 2: kind of pissed off that you just like you were like, Hey,
Speaker 2: I gotta talk to this gecko guy from the internet.
Speaker 2: Let me just ruin our lie, let me just postpone
Speaker 2: our life real quick.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, he's he's as excited as I am.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's good. All right. This is good because I
Speaker 2: want to talk to both of you. I don't want
Speaker 2: to talk to both of you at once. I want
Speaker 2: to actually, I want to experiment with something. I want
Speaker 2: to have a full, complete conversation with you and then
Speaker 2: talk to your friend. Is that okay? Is that cool?
Speaker 1: Or is that okay? All?
Speaker 2: I heard Sean go oh yeah in the distance, and
Speaker 2: so it sounds like Sean's game. So I don't. I
Speaker 2: don't feel bad anymore than I'm ruining day. Okay, Well, Connor,
Speaker 2: you texted me and you said I just finished directing
Speaker 2: a musical that I had been planning for a year
Speaker 2: and a half and I don't think I'm ready to
Speaker 2: let go. Is that is that accurate?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Pretty accurate. We we had our final show yesterday. It
Speaker 3: was Little Shop of Horrors, and uh, I don't know,
Speaker 3: man Like, I feel like I don't know what to
Speaker 3: what to do with myself at this point.
Speaker 1: I've been.
Speaker 3: You know, some of my best friends in my life
Speaker 3: that I have right now, I met after finding out
Speaker 3: that I was going to direct this show. So it
Speaker 3: feels like the whole lifetime has passed and I've gone through.
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm just trauma dumping right now. But
Speaker 3: I guess that's kind of what the show's for. I've
Speaker 3: gone through all kinds of crazy, not crazy things, because
Speaker 3: the stuff that everyone goes through, but like I've dealt
Speaker 3: with some hard stuff in the time of me planning
Speaker 3: this show. The now, and this show like for the
Speaker 3: entire thing was always the light of the tunnel, Like
Speaker 3: I've still got little shop. I've still got little shop,
Speaker 3: and now that's done, and like I don't know, like
Speaker 3: I experienced the whole ego death in the middle of
Speaker 3: preparing for this show. Yeah, And I mean it's just
Speaker 3: gonna be a weird.
Speaker 1: Shift suddenly having time because.
Speaker 3: I work right next to the theater that I've been
Speaker 3: directing at, so I don't.
Speaker 1: Really have.
Speaker 3: A good excuse for the thirty minute drive home between
Speaker 3: work and the rehearsals.
Speaker 1: So for like two or three months now.
Speaker 3: As we've been actually rehearsing for the show, I've been
Speaker 3: away from the house for pretty much seventeen hours a day,
Speaker 3: just you know, working and then working on this passion project.
Speaker 3: And I don't know, I'm excited.
Speaker 1: To be able to focus on the other aspects of
Speaker 1: my life.
Speaker 3: There's definitely stuff that's fallen by the wayside in the
Speaker 3: mania of directing.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just I'm kind of waiting for the
Speaker 1: post show depression to hit me. You know.
Speaker 2: Interesting, it sounds like it already has a little bit.
Speaker 1: Oh, it hit me hard last night.
Speaker 3: We went to a little kind of like bar and
Speaker 3: grill place afterwards, and I like, the guy that played
Speaker 3: the main character is like one of my best friends
Speaker 3: in the world, and I like, I sobbed into his
Speaker 3: shoulder for like ten minutes. But yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Don't know if I really need advice or anything.
Speaker 2: I kind of do kind of No, no, no, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't take that at all. I know what you mean.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you've been out of your house for
Speaker 2: seventeen hours working on the same thing for a year,
Speaker 2: then once it's gone, yeah totally, you're gonna be like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck? I mean? That's happened to me a
Speaker 2: bunch of times. It's a weird and really, I think
Speaker 2: examining that is what makes me feel so fucking like
Speaker 2: existential and crazy is that there is no like the
Speaker 2: perpetual motion of life has driven me crazy a little bit,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And then you you kind
Speaker 2: of take yourself out of that perpetual motion and take
Speaker 2: yourself out of your own thoughts by being busy all
Speaker 2: the time. Because you're in the flow state, you're not
Speaker 2: thinking about fucking anything else. But you know, a little
Speaker 2: shop of horrors for a year and a half, and
Speaker 2: so now you have time to think. What have you
Speaker 2: been thinking about now that you've had time to think?
Speaker 3: Mainly work? I mean, my job is kind of kind
Speaker 3: of fucking me right now. So now that I've not
Speaker 3: had to be thinking about coordinating with twenty people on
Speaker 3: making some big, playing pretend project, I've been really irritable
Speaker 3: with work.
Speaker 2: How has work been fucking you?
Speaker 3: Well, pretty much. I was actually just my buddy Sean
Speaker 3: about this. I'm a construction worker and I install shelves,
Speaker 3: bathroom accessories and doorknobs and new construction. And the way
Speaker 3: that I'm typically paid is I'll have a base pay
Speaker 3: for the week, but everything I install has a dollar
Speaker 3: amount of sign to it. So if I pass the
Speaker 3: base pay and that total amount that I've installed, I
Speaker 3: get paid that instead. I've come to find out recently
Speaker 3: that Shun's chucklin' right now because he can see how
Speaker 3: irritated I'm getting. But I've come to find out that
Speaker 3: if I take off a single day of work, I
Speaker 3: forfeit my base pay for the week. So rather than
Speaker 3: getting paid like the full base pay for every day,
Speaker 3: I'm only paid what I install.
Speaker 1: And business is very slow right now.
Speaker 3: So this amounted to me making two hundred and seventy
Speaker 3: two bucks.
Speaker 1: For four nine hour days of a physical labor job
Speaker 1: last week because I took off a single day of work.
Speaker 2: Really like like just contractually, you got fucked.
Speaker 3: I got contractually thought, Yeah, that's insane, man.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I had no idea that that that that was
Speaker 3: how taking off a day would affect me until now.
Speaker 1: And I've been working at this company for almost a year.
Speaker 2: You're a You're an interesting combination. I would not expect
Speaker 2: construction worker slash theater director. That's an that's an interesting combination.
Speaker 3: I've been doing theater stuff for a lot longer, and
Speaker 3: my my mo for finding a job was always like,
Speaker 3: if it's something that leaves me room in the evenings
Speaker 3: for theater, that's what I want to do. All I
Speaker 3: need to do is show up and make money, leave
Speaker 3: and then have my evening to do the stuff that
Speaker 3: I give a shit about but and that this job
Speaker 3: was that for a while, but now I'm getting in
Speaker 3: tractionally fucked, as you put it.
Speaker 1: So I'm pretty frustrated.
Speaker 2: So like, where are you directing these like musicals at? Like,
Speaker 2: are you you're not in college still, are you? Are you?
Speaker 2: Is it like a community theater thing?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: No, No, it's it's a local community theater thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, cool man, that's that's awesome. And you've been doing
Speaker 2: that since like pretty much your whole life.
Speaker 3: Well, I started acting about four years ago, and this
Speaker 3: is my first time directing, or it was.
Speaker 2: And so about the whole I guess ego death thing
Speaker 2: of like having time to think, which is a very
Speaker 2: real phenomenon. Are you planning another directing about soon?
Speaker 1: I'm not super soon. I was.
Speaker 3: I was asked to come back and direct in about
Speaker 3: two years at the same theater because the whole next
Speaker 3: theatrical season is uh is booked out because they do
Speaker 3: it for like months and months and months in advance.
Speaker 3: But uh, the little shop got enough, UH got enough
Speaker 3: recognition from around that they asked me back.
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm pretty excited about that.
Speaker 2: Wow, two years it'll be Yeah, that's so that's like that.
Speaker 2: It feels like it's like it's not even like a
Speaker 2: comprehendible amount of time.
Speaker 3: No, but like I've had that thought. But then I
Speaker 3: think about the fact that I planned Little Shop for
Speaker 3: a year and a half and it just flew by,
Speaker 3: So like, I have confidence that this show will.
Speaker 1: Get here a lot quicker in my brain than it
Speaker 1: actually is, but it's it's.
Speaker 3: Still a long time, and I'll be acting between now
Speaker 3: and then, of course, But.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think part of what I meant
Speaker 1: by let go in my original text is it's.
Speaker 3: Going to be really hard to go from being like
Speaker 3: the director over a show to now having to be
Speaker 3: the one taking direction again, I guess, And that sounds egotistical,
Speaker 3: I know, but it'll it'll be a weird shift, I think.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 2: So, now that you're not doing this anymore and that
Speaker 2: you're like, Okay, I'm going to come back in two years,
Speaker 2: are you like the time that you were spending directing
Speaker 2: the musical, have you like filled that with anything else.
Speaker 3: I've got a few shows lined up that I'm planning
Speaker 3: on auditioning for to perform in because that's my first love.
Speaker 3: I think if it was between directing and performing. I
Speaker 3: would much rather be a performer, but directing scratches a
Speaker 3: whole different itch.
Speaker 2: You know, what are you trying to audition for?
Speaker 3: We're doing Bonnie and Clyde soon. I'm doing a Christmas
Speaker 3: follow the Christmas Extravaganza. It's like a variety show. I'm
Speaker 3: doing that this December, and then there's a few after that.
Speaker 3: I know SpongeBob is a big one that I want
Speaker 3: to go for.
Speaker 2: Bro I want to see SpongeBob. I want to see
Speaker 2: the play. I haven't seen it. I want to go
Speaker 2: on Broadway to see SpongeBob. I think that'd be sick.
Speaker 2: Who are you going to go out for? Are you
Speaker 2: going out? Are you going out for SpongeBob?
Speaker 3: I want Plankton more than any role I've ever wonted,
Speaker 3: because I mean, you hear my voice, right.
Speaker 2: I hear it?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I would.
Speaker 2: I think you're I was thinking you, but I to
Speaker 2: be uh, I was thinking you would go out for
Speaker 2: squid word.
Speaker 3: I that is a very close second. But this voice
Speaker 3: that you're hearing is coming out of a five to
Speaker 3: six insanely skinny frame. So me playing Plankton would be
Speaker 3: fucking perfect.
Speaker 2: If you ask me, and but is this another like
Speaker 2: local theater production.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's the same theater.
Speaker 2: Same theater. Okay, so the same theater is like in
Speaker 2: the next when and then when is when are they
Speaker 2: doing SpongeBob? Is that in like fucking five years?
Speaker 1: SpongeBob? Is this coming summer?
Speaker 2: Okay? Okay, so they haven't even casted it yet?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, Were you a theater.
Speaker 2: Kid in high school? Like like now? And I know,
Speaker 2: I know you like you? You Well, how how old
Speaker 2: are you? I'm twenty twenty okay, So so yeah, so
Speaker 2: you started four years ago, so you would have been
Speaker 2: in in high school when you were doing it. Were
Speaker 2: you like a theater kid type of guy? Because you
Speaker 2: don't strike me as like a theatery guy in your demeanor.
Speaker 3: The I mean, I'm flamboyant as fuck, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 3: But the community that we've got around here, there's not
Speaker 3: a whole lot of the like when you think theater kid,
Speaker 3: I don't think you typically think of the kind of
Speaker 3: people that we have hanging around. Because can I go
Speaker 3: on a tangent? Because I love theater and I need
Speaker 3: everyone to hear about it. Community theater is so beautiful
Speaker 3: to me because.
Speaker 1: Unlike the like higher levels.
Speaker 3: Or higher quote unquote levels of like theater where you're
Speaker 3: getting paid to do it and whatnot. Instead of like
Speaker 3: everyone there being like an actor and.
Speaker 1: That's like their thing, you have like.
Speaker 3: Fifty people sometimes showing up and like doing this beautiful
Speaker 3: performing art from.
Speaker 1: All different walks of life.
Speaker 3: Like I've been in shows with pops, I've been in
Speaker 3: shows with doctors. It well, like just people I would
Speaker 3: never interact with in any other setting and we all
Speaker 3: come together to perform and.
Speaker 1: Show our passion to an audience.
Speaker 3: And it's it's such a special thing. It's really really
Speaker 3: important to me. But all that is to say, we
Speaker 3: we don't really get a lot of the typical like
Speaker 3: tiktokie theater kids in the in the community. And I'm
Speaker 3: glad that that bullet missed me.
Speaker 2: And I know I said I was going to talk
Speaker 2: to you guys separately, But what about your boy? Is
Speaker 2: he is he a theater guy as well?
Speaker 1: He is? That's how we met.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, Okay, I'm ready to talk to him if he's.
Speaker 1: Down to talk you down to Sean. There you go, Hello, what.
Speaker 2: Hey, are are you sure you guys are cool with this, Like,
Speaker 2: you don't you're not like you don't have like a
Speaker 2: reservation or something.
Speaker 4: Oh no, we don't have a reservation. We were just
Speaker 4: going out to dinner.
Speaker 2: Are you also twenty?
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 4: I just turned eighteen?
Speaker 2: Oh, rock and roll? What are you going to do
Speaker 2: now that you're Now that you're eighteen?
Speaker 4: I mean, the plan right now is to just get
Speaker 4: finished with high school and then I I've been applying
Speaker 4: to colleges and everything, and I just got my acceptance
Speaker 4: letter to a college called the University of South Alabama,
Speaker 4: and I'm very excited to be able to go. It's
Speaker 4: really what I want to do is to go to
Speaker 4: college and get my bachelor's in nursing so I can
Speaker 4: get my postgrad degree and be a nurse nethicist.
Speaker 2: Cool. Man, that's awesome. Yeah, that's like such a I
Speaker 2: don't know, man, that's like a it's a very like
Speaker 2: that's a real life, that's a real job, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. Like, that's uh, that's very admirable.
Speaker 4: It's it's scary thought overall, just the fact that I'm like,
Speaker 4: I'm not a kid anymore. I've never felt like I've
Speaker 4: been like the quintessential like teenager archetype or anything. But
Speaker 4: it's weird that I'm like, I'm an actual, like legally
Speaker 4: I am an adult now, and it's it's kind of
Speaker 4: stressing me out. I have to be honest, going like
Speaker 4: man all that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what I like, Sorry, yeah, go ahead, all right.
Speaker 4: It's just I'm moving away from home for the first time,
Speaker 4: and it's just I don't know exactly how I'm going
Speaker 4: to pay for everything because I'm not I'm not like
Speaker 4: so smart that I can get the best scholarships and everything,
Speaker 4: and it's just it's very expensive to go to college
Speaker 4: for how long I want to, and I just I
Speaker 4: don't know if it's gonna be working out or not.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. But yeah, you know, you're It's not like
Speaker 2: if you told me you were going into debt to
Speaker 2: get a theater degree, I'd be like, I don't know
Speaker 2: about that, but you're going for like a real fucking
Speaker 2: thing to be like a nurse.
Speaker 4: It's I've one for the longest time to do something
Speaker 4: in the medical field because my great grandfather passed away
Speaker 4: years ago from a heart disease and it runs in
Speaker 4: my family and everything, and I just I just want
Speaker 4: to do something to help others who are like afflicted
Speaker 4: with any kind of diseases or illnesses, and anesthesia specifically
Speaker 4: is what it helps people where they go into surgery,
Speaker 4: it keeps them passed out and everything.
Speaker 1: And I just.
Speaker 4: Feel like that's a job that's very underappreciated, and I'd
Speaker 4: love to be able to help people by assisting them
Speaker 4: in that way.
Speaker 2: You're a very wholesome guy.
Speaker 1: Man. Thank you.
Speaker 2: When you said you didn't get to live the teenager life,
Speaker 2: what does that mean?
Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like a lot of the time
Speaker 4: teenagers are kind of like in like media and like
Speaker 4: the news and everything, it's always teenagers are out causing
Speaker 4: a ruckus or going to parties and that kind of
Speaker 4: stuff and hang out with their friends every other day.
Speaker 1: And I try.
Speaker 4: To be with my friends as much as possible, but
Speaker 4: it always feels like sometimes it just doesn't work out,
Speaker 4: and I'm always I spent a lot of time just
Speaker 4: alone at my house more than anything else, and it
Speaker 4: just it doesn't feel like what I thought it would.
Speaker 4: I guess if that makes any sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes total sense.
Speaker 1: I have.
Speaker 2: I mean, like, were you sitting in your house being
Speaker 2: like I wish I was causing a ruckus or were
Speaker 2: you sitting in your house like all right, this is
Speaker 2: this is fine.
Speaker 4: I was sitting in my house just relaxing. I wasn't
Speaker 4: very stressed out about like not being like a hair
Speaker 4: society or anything.
Speaker 2: Not a terror of society, but you know, like, uh,
Speaker 2: some people get stressed out of it right about like
Speaker 2: that they're not living whatever life they think they should be.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's one of my biggest fears. I feel like
Speaker 4: that goes back to going to college and for four
Speaker 4: years to get one degree, to go again for three
Speaker 4: you can get another degree. It's just that's a lot
Speaker 4: of time of my life that I'm going to be
Speaker 4: losing out on. And I don't know if that's like
Speaker 4: like I really want to go, but it's almost that's
Speaker 4: seven years of my life is gonna be taken up
Speaker 4: before I even get a chance to get the job.
Speaker 4: I want to get it, and that's just I really
Speaker 4: want to do it. It's just that what if I
Speaker 4: get there and then it's just I don't like it
Speaker 4: And it's just been a waste of time and money
Speaker 4: for the past almost a decade.
Speaker 2: But I don't know the way that you're talking about
Speaker 2: it is very passionate because you're not over here like,
Speaker 2: well my parents want me to do it, or well
Speaker 2: I think I'll make money or this and that. The
Speaker 2: other thing, the way you're talking about it is like,
Speaker 2: this is something I really want to do, you know,
Speaker 2: So I think that taking a shot on something that
Speaker 2: you really want to do is a good idea. Well,
Speaker 2: I mean, what the fuck else would you do?
Speaker 1: That's a good point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, well so right, because you're like, oh, oh,
Speaker 2: I would waste all my time getting into medicine. But
Speaker 2: I like what I you know, do you You're not over
Speaker 2: here like I want to go around destroying mailboxes that
Speaker 2: I didn't get to destroy when I was in high school.
Speaker 2: You know, like, do you I I do you even
Speaker 2: fantasize about what else you would you would do with
Speaker 2: your life if not this.
Speaker 4: I mean, if not anesthesia in any kind of way,
Speaker 4: I would. I've been learning more and more about myself
Speaker 4: that I enjoy music as a hobby and I'd love
Speaker 4: to be able to do something with that. You know,
Speaker 4: it's just like a side hustle in the future. I
Speaker 4: just I really enjoy listening and writing and playing and
Speaker 4: all that stuff. I love learning about the instruments. It
Speaker 4: fascinates me in a way that not much else does.
Speaker 2: Well, look at your boy, man, he's fucking holding down
Speaker 2: his construction job and still makes time to do what
Speaker 2: he loves in the musical world.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 4: He's actually I've thought for the past couple of years
Speaker 4: that he's more like a brother to me than just
Speaker 4: a friend. Like he's been like an older brother I
Speaker 4: never actually had. And not to be all like sappy
Speaker 4: or anything call it, but like, I really do look
Speaker 4: up to him as a person.
Speaker 1: I think he's great.
Speaker 4: He recently, like got he started a band recently, and
Speaker 4: I'm so proud of them. It's beautiful to see it
Speaker 4: all come together, and it just makes me really happy.
Speaker 4: And seeing him able to do that really helped me
Speaker 4: like realized that I did like music a lot, as
Speaker 4: well as anesthesia stuff along those lines.
Speaker 2: That's so nice, man, you know, that's fucking cool. That's
Speaker 2: fucking cool. I wish I had friends like you in
Speaker 2: high school, you know, who were who were wholesome and nice.
Speaker 2: My friends were kind of assholes, but that's because I
Speaker 2: was also an asshole. But uh hmmm, that's nice, man,
Speaker 2: that's really nice. Yeah, I mean your boys doing it.
Speaker 2: I'm inspired. I'm inspired by your boy. I mean the
Speaker 2: fact that he's fucking holding down these seventeen hour days
Speaker 2: making time for uh he started a band. I mean
Speaker 2: that's crazy, man, to be making time for doing your
Speaker 2: regular job and also directing a musical and also being
Speaker 2: in a band. It goes to it goes to show.
Speaker 2: I don't know, some people are just wired with that
Speaker 2: amount of fucking energy or whatever. But yeah, dude, I
Speaker 2: mean I think that. Uh, I think that you can
Speaker 2: live a life that's abundant, so to speak, where you can.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're eighteen, man, you should. You should take
Speaker 2: a shot at living as though you can do you
Speaker 2: can achieve all your dreams. You can figure out whether
Speaker 2: or not you can later, but you might as well
Speaker 2: live now as if you can.
Speaker 1: I I agree.
Speaker 4: That's Actually that's really good sentiment to have.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: And uh yeah, it sounds like you really wanted to.
Speaker 3: This.
Speaker 2: Uh go for it in in medicine, but you can
Speaker 2: also make music on the side. Have time to hang
Speaker 2: out with your boys, especially while you're young man, because
Speaker 2: I don't know you are you? You seem like you're
Speaker 2: a family. Man, you seem like you want to make
Speaker 2: an offspring have a wife and a fence and ship.
Speaker 2: That seems like you're m o am I wrong.
Speaker 4: Uh, maybe I have fully decided on everything I'd like
Speaker 4: to in the future be able to have that kind
Speaker 4: of vibe where I can come home and be happy
Speaker 4: and everything and you know all that, like the quintessential.
Speaker 1: Stuff I get.
Speaker 4: Not that I'm like the kind of uh you like
Speaker 4: the uh Uculear family kind of dynamics. That's not really
Speaker 4: what I'm looking for. But I do love the idea
Speaker 4: of having somebody to come back to, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean?
Speaker 2: Oh, what state of you guys in right now?
Speaker 4: We're in Alabama.
Speaker 2: You're in Alabama. I love this, man. I love I
Speaker 2: love just being able to fucking like like fly on
Speaker 2: the wall in uh in the car of a and
Speaker 2: I love I love being able to be a lie
Speaker 2: on the wall of a parked car at a BUCkies
Speaker 2: in Alabama with two just a wholesome like you know,
Speaker 2: like homies. This is an interesting It's an interesting experience.
Speaker 2: Hm hmm, is am I on speakerphone? But right now, okay,
Speaker 2: let me talk to Conna. Yeah, let me. I'll talk
Speaker 2: to Connor real quick.
Speaker 1: All right, you're on speaker now.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, all right, I can all right, I got
Speaker 2: both the boys, you do, yep? So what's the what's
Speaker 2: the plan after this? I'm glad you got I'm glad
Speaker 2: I got to talk to you guys. I'm glad I
Speaker 2: got this little slice of slice of cake into your life.
Speaker 3: We're actually meeting up with another friend at a really
Speaker 3: great like Hawaiian.
Speaker 1: Ball plays called Poke.
Speaker 2: Oh mm hmm. That's good ship.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty I've been thinking about it all day.
Speaker 2: That's good ship. That's good ship. Hmmm. Uh. Connor, what's
Speaker 2: your what's uh? What's your dream in life? I feel
Speaker 2: like I feel like I got I feel like I
Speaker 2: got deeper into it with Shane than I did with Connor.
Speaker 2: Shane or Sean Sean. I feel like I got deeper
Speaker 2: into it with Sean than I did with Connor. I
Speaker 2: gotta I gotta even it out now.
Speaker 1: You're fine. I mean, really, I would be this.
Speaker 3: This is probably a stupid thing to say at twenty,
Speaker 3: but I'd be perfectly content to live out the rest
Speaker 3: of my life as as I am right now, just
Speaker 3: working some job to pay the bills and then doing
Speaker 3: my creative stuff, uh, with whatever time's left over. I mean, obviously, sorry,
Speaker 3: there's a car getting broken into and BUCkies not actually
Speaker 3: broken into, the.
Speaker 1: Alunch, just going off.
Speaker 3: But obviously the dream would be for theater to just
Speaker 3: kind of take over and start making me money.
Speaker 1: But I'd also love if the band, uh if the
Speaker 1: band kind of took off and we we got to
Speaker 1: live that last style because we're we're having a really
Speaker 1: good time with it right now.
Speaker 3: We played our first show for a for a cancer
Speaker 3: fundraiser about a month back.
Speaker 2: Man, this is this is this might be. This is
Speaker 2: like low key one of the most wholesome conversations I
Speaker 2: think I've had on this show recently. I don't, I
Speaker 2: feel like I don't. I don't. I don't have the
Speaker 2: right words for it. But yeah, I like you guys.
Speaker 2: You guys are cool.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate what you do.
Speaker 2: Man, mm hm, did you get gas yet?
Speaker 3: No, I'm sitting at forty three miles till I'm empty,
Speaker 3: So we're doing okay.
Speaker 2: Wait what was it at the beginning of this call?
Speaker 1: I think forty nine ish?
Speaker 2: Wait, what the fuck?
Speaker 1: I've drive an old car?
Speaker 3: Man, there's I I've been so focused on the show
Speaker 3: that I haven't even given myself the time to get
Speaker 3: anything checked out on this thing. What goodness knows is
Speaker 3: there's a lot of shit wrong with my old ship.
Speaker 2: But wait, I don't know anything. I don't know anything
Speaker 2: about cars. But if you guys are parked and the
Speaker 2: car is off, how is it losing gas?
Speaker 1: It's it's not off. We've got the we've got the
Speaker 1: ac running.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, all right, all right, that makes sense, But still,
Speaker 2: like does it? Why does it need gas to stay still?
Speaker 1: You know, I've had that question for a while. That's
Speaker 1: a great question. I don't I'm not going to pretend
Speaker 1: to know the answer for it. For you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, fuck medical school, fun construction. You guys
Speaker 2: should go to school to figure out the answer to
Speaker 2: that question and then report back.
Speaker 1: We'll get back to you, yo.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you guys taking time out of your out
Speaker 2: of your day to chat with me. I'm gonna let
Speaker 2: you guys get back to your pok bowl. Is there
Speaker 2: is there anything that either of you you you boys
Speaker 2: want to say to the people of the computer before
Speaker 2: we go.
Speaker 1: Do you mind if I shout out my band We've
Speaker 1: got Instagram.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, please here, I'm much, I'm.
Speaker 1: A little.
Speaker 3: It's pair a pair of vel It's just the castle
Speaker 3: from Nardia.
Speaker 1: Care are c A I R space E A R.
Speaker 3: A B E L.
Speaker 1: Space?
Speaker 2: Is there there's a space?
Speaker 1: You mean like?
Speaker 2: Is it an underscore or a space?
Speaker 1: I think? Hold on, I gotta pull it up again.
Speaker 1: It's been a second since I looked at it.
Speaker 2: Care, Uh, it's the it's the castle from what.
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 3: Sorry, I just I gave you the name of the
Speaker 3: band and not the name of the Instagram. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: no spaces C A I R E A R A
Speaker 3: V E L the band.
Speaker 2: Caravelle. Okay, Caravelle the band. Okay, I definitely fucked this up. Wait,
Speaker 2: what's the name of the what's the castle named after?
Speaker 1: It's named after the Castle from Narnia.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm just going to start the Castle from Narnia. Okay,
Speaker 2: what's the new?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: Okay, care pair of Okay?
Speaker 1: There we go? Is it is?
Speaker 2: Okay? So instagram dot com slash but with a instead
Speaker 2: of a P. Okay, are you a big Narnia?
Speaker 3: It's the reason that we named it after that was
Speaker 3: I actually acted in Uh, the Lion, the Witch, and
Speaker 3: the Wardrobe.
Speaker 2: Tell me you're as Tell me your ass was as loon, dude,
Speaker 2: tell me your ass was as loon.
Speaker 1: I was as fuck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awesome, but.
Speaker 1: That show was actually the first time that all four
Speaker 1: band members were in the same place.
Speaker 2: I give you guys a follow care paravel the band.
Speaker 2: If you all, if you're listening to this and you
Speaker 2: all follow this guy, but you also don't know how
Speaker 2: to spell that ship, you just google.
Speaker 3: The uh.
Speaker 2: The castle from Narnia?
Speaker 1: Look? Is this all?
Speaker 2: Is this all four? Is this the band? Uh? These
Speaker 2: these you? You two, and then these three people.
Speaker 1: Sean isn't in the band, but I'm the number one fan.
Speaker 1: He is the number one fan.
Speaker 2: Hell uh, you guys already got a groupie.
Speaker 1: We do. He's he's been day one. You gets sent
Speaker 1: all the demos we make so excited every time. And
Speaker 1: now I gotta post something.
Speaker 2: Well, you already have picture. You have a picture. Look
Speaker 2: at you have a picture of yourself eating a fucking
Speaker 2: sheet cake or something. You already got stuff. This is
Speaker 2: this is good. Who needs music? Just keep posting photos
Speaker 2: of random ship. We're all gonna die.
Speaker 1: We'll turn it into a food block.
Speaker 2: Now, you guys are cool.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you guys talking to me. You guys. Uh,
Speaker 2: you guys have a good rest of your rest of
Speaker 2: your lives.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, thank you man.
Speaker 2: Hey, take care guys, by bye bye. That was really nice.
Speaker 2: I'm in a really chill mood right now. Uh. Sometimes
Speaker 2: you just we just come on here. We just have
Speaker 2: really chill ass conversations. I don't know. Yeah, sometimes we'll
Speaker 2: get into crazy shit. B other times we'll just have
Speaker 2: just a chill conversation. Well, just I like this. One
Speaker 2: of the things I like about doing this is you
Speaker 2: just we just get to meet you and me, the listeners.
Speaker 2: We get to meet just a wholesome dude in the
Speaker 2: parking lot of a Bucke's in Alabama. God damn it,
Speaker 2: the world is okay. Everything's gonna be fine. All right,
Speaker 2: everything's gonna be fine. You look around this, you really look,
Speaker 2: or if you're in there's certain places you can go
Speaker 2: to on the internet or in the world and be
Speaker 2: like everything's crumbling apart. The ice caps are melting and
Speaker 2: it's they super are. But you know, there's also two
Speaker 2: nice guys parked at a BUCkies in Alabama, living out
Speaker 2: their dreams. It's nice, it's good. I uh, it makes
Speaker 2: you feel makes you feel good?
Speaker 5: How from I'm returning in this school?
Speaker 2: Hello?
Speaker 5: Hi, this is Alan.
Speaker 2: What's up Ascelin? How you doing? How's life?
Speaker 5: I'm doing good? May I ask what you called?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: This is the Gecko guy.
Speaker 5: Oh hi, nice to talk to you.
Speaker 3: Wait wait am I on.
Speaker 5: The Gecko right now?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, you're on the Gecko show? That Wait?
Speaker 1: Is that?
Speaker 2: Is that cool? Do you have do you have time?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna just to give some context. I sometimes like,
Speaker 2: all I'll give you some context. Like sometimes I live
Speaker 2: stream myself doing this, and other times I'm just like you, like,
Speaker 2: all right, So while I'm live, people like text me
Speaker 2: ship and then sometimes I'm like, you know what, instead
Speaker 2: of going live and having new people call me, let
Speaker 2: me just call back let me. It's kind of insane, actually,
Speaker 2: now that I think about it, because I'm just like, oh,
Speaker 2: this person texted me something they wanted to talk about
Speaker 2: a week ago. Let me just call them randomly and
Speaker 2: see if they pick up and we can talk.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, no, oh I got time. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 5: got time?
Speaker 2: You got time? Okay. It's weirdly worked it's weirdly been
Speaker 2: working people there. People are massively unemployed across the planet Earth,
Speaker 2: which is good for me because it means they have
Speaker 2: time to talk on my podcast.
Speaker 5: I'm not unemployed. I actually have three jobs, but I
Speaker 5: got time.
Speaker 1: How do you?
Speaker 2: Uh, how do you have three jobs but time to
Speaker 2: talk to a get go? I'm glad. I appreciate you
Speaker 2: fitting me in your schedule.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, that's not why I wanted to talk to you.
Speaker 5: I have three jobs just because I'm going through a
Speaker 5: lot right now and you gotta kind of like work
Speaker 5: a lot just to I don't know, to get your
Speaker 5: mind off shit. Dude, but that's so crazy.
Speaker 2: I know what you mean.
Speaker 1: I know what you mean.
Speaker 5: Perfect time. I just got home.
Speaker 3: Dude.
Speaker 5: Do you know what Hawaiian bros Is? I don't know
Speaker 5: what state you're in, but do you know Hawaiian bro's
Speaker 5: in your state?
Speaker 2: Hawaiian Bros? Yes, No, it's funny. I just talked to
Speaker 2: uh to Hawaiian bros that were wrong their way to
Speaker 2: a Hawaiian restaurant? Is it?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 2: Wait, it's Hawaiian Bros. Is that a fucking hold on
Speaker 2: Hawaiian Bros?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, I think I've seen Hawaiian Bros Before.
Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, they in my state. They have this stain
Speaker 5: running where you can get two plates and it comes
Speaker 5: out to like thirty dollars, but you get you don't
Speaker 5: have to pay for one of them. It's like buy one,
Speaker 5: get one three. I just got four trays for like
Speaker 5: thirty dollars. I'm not even gonna eat any of this.
Speaker 5: I'm not to go hand it out to some homeless
Speaker 5: people probably, but yeah, I got I got a lot
Speaker 5: of food.
Speaker 2: Oh that's nice. No, I I Google image searched Hawaiian Bros.
Speaker 2: This looks fucking amazing.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, it is. It's just chicken. You could
Speaker 5: just make it at home. It's just chicken with karaoke
Speaker 5: stuff on it. But yeah, no, okay, wait, I need
Speaker 5: your advice on something. I don't know if you saw
Speaker 5: my text, but yeah, I text you like I think
Speaker 5: it was like a year two years ago, and then
Speaker 5: I texted you the other day because that same issue
Speaker 5: kind of popped up.
Speaker 2: I can try my best to give it. I could
Speaker 2: try my best to give advice on on whatever's going on.
Speaker 5: Well, see, I think it's fucking hilarious. It's gonna sound sad,
Speaker 5: it's funny.
Speaker 3: Just know that.
Speaker 5: So basically, my ex shot himself in the head like
Speaker 5: two years ago.
Speaker 4: He's dead.
Speaker 5: Anyways, I'm over that. Whatever time goes on, you know,
Speaker 5: I've uh wait wait.
Speaker 2: Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait I listen, here's Ash.
Speaker 2: I really your Ash is your name? Yeah, I really.
Speaker 2: I want to trust you because you're a guest on
Speaker 2: my show. I want to trust you that this is
Speaker 2: somehow funny.
Speaker 5: But so okay, maybe it's not funny, but I think
Speaker 5: it's I think it's funny. Basically, I, you know, went
Speaker 5: on some like spiritual paths and I went to isolated
Speaker 5: for two years. I started working a fuck ton started
Speaker 5: doing sales job. Well, actually no, I didn't do anything
Speaker 5: for like almost two years. But recently, these past couple
Speaker 5: months this year, I've been just like working, working, working, working, working,
Speaker 5: focusing on myself, trying to do better. Da da da. Anyways,
Speaker 5: time goes on, I'm like fucking perfect, dude. I am
Speaker 5: twenty one years old. I was making like in my
Speaker 5: last job, I was making up to like sixty something
Speaker 5: thousand dollars every year. I just got my own apartment,
Speaker 5: and dude, I have a spiral staircase, and he was
Speaker 5: Life's good. Right. Then I go to the smoke shop
Speaker 5: one day. I had like long hair. I don't know.
Speaker 5: I was just kind of like, you know what, I'm
Speaker 5: gonna do something crazy, So I chopped off all my
Speaker 5: hair going to the smoke shop, and I see this
Speaker 5: guy and he looks exactly like my ex and he
Speaker 5: sounds maybe he doesn't look exactly like it, but he
Speaker 5: sounds exactly like my fucking eggs. And I don't know
Speaker 5: what to feel about that. It's just kind of weird.
Speaker 5: It's maybe yeah, maybe it's not funny. I think it's funny,
Speaker 5: but it's weird.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so let me wrangle this all in. You
Speaker 2: texted me saying the guy I'm dating looks like my ex?
Speaker 2: So are you dating this smoke shop guy?
Speaker 5: Not anymore? Kind, It's complicated. We're gonna talk on Friday.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 5: I just had to like push all that shit off
Speaker 5: to the side for now because that was like too
Speaker 5: much for me to fucking amble.
Speaker 2: But like, okay, okay, I thought you were okay, you
Speaker 2: met you started dating guy who looks like your ex boyfriend.
Speaker 2: I thought this was leading up to it somehow being
Speaker 2: funny that your ex shot himself.
Speaker 5: No, no, that's not funny.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't think that was funny either. But I was like,
Speaker 2: you know what, the world, this world surprises me every day.
Speaker 2: I'm going to relinquish my faith to you. I guess
Speaker 2: that's all. Well, it makes sense. I mean, I assume
Speaker 2: you dated this guy because he was, uh, you found him.
Speaker 2: He was your type in some way, shape or for him.
Speaker 2: So it makes sense that you would be attracted to
Speaker 2: a guy who looks like a guy that you were
Speaker 2: attracted to before.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean yeah, he was like I see, I
Speaker 5: didn't even think that. Here's the thing.
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 5: I just kind of like walked in there. He went
Speaker 5: a house in News. He's like, oh, dude, here's my flyer.
Speaker 5: Name's actually I don't need to give out his names anyways.
Speaker 5: That's the that's that. And then we were like talking
Speaker 5: and then we start to like I don't know, maybe
Speaker 5: like two or three weeks, we kind of like told
Speaker 5: each other like yeah, I like you whatever, whatever, whatever
Speaker 5: you know, And then he brought that up. Actually, then
Speaker 5: I kind of like he he thought that because I
Speaker 5: sort of had like a for two years. I had
Speaker 5: a picture of my ex on my Instagram. I took
Speaker 5: everything off now because I was like, yeah, it's dumb.
Speaker 5: Why do I still have that? But he saw that
Speaker 5: and he comes up to me and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 5: me and my friend's talked and something something. He thought
Speaker 5: he kind of looked like it, and I was like, no,
Speaker 5: that's not true, and I told him, like, nah no.
Speaker 5: But then I was like looking at it and I
Speaker 5: was like a little bit, just a little bit. But
Speaker 5: here's the even weirder part. I was listening to a
Speaker 5: voice memo of what he sent me the other day,
Speaker 5: and then I was listening to like another voice memo
Speaker 5: of my ex from like a long time ago. They
Speaker 5: sound like the same person.
Speaker 1: And it's weird.
Speaker 2: Interesting. Why so what are you guys talking about on Friday? Whise?
Speaker 2: Is it not going well?
Speaker 1: Or is it?
Speaker 2: Or is it like a good talk? Is it like
Speaker 2: a wed let's be exclusive talk?
Speaker 5: Oh no, we already had that talk. I kind of
Speaker 5: like broke up. I don't know if he's weird. So
Speaker 5: like on top of all that, like not to like,
Speaker 5: I don't know, it's not my place to talk about
Speaker 5: my relationship issues on live TV.
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm not.
Speaker 5: I guess I don't know. I didn't date for two years.
Speaker 5: I wasn't really I wouldn't say I'm not, like, well
Speaker 5: now I know I'm not ready for a relationship, and
Speaker 5: I just kind of like we're we took a break.
Speaker 1: We're on a break right now to make it all right?
Speaker 2: So what's the is the talk? Is it like let's
Speaker 2: get back together talk or like a here's where we're
Speaker 2: at talk?
Speaker 5: Probably a here's where we're at. I'm just gonna tell him, like, sorry,
Speaker 5: I kind of like slipped out there.
Speaker 1: You know, my bad?
Speaker 5: Uh, okay, probably don't want to date you, but like,
Speaker 5: and that's not the point.
Speaker 2: I'm not.
Speaker 5: I don't know. I'm not even like worried about the talk.
Speaker 5: But it's like, I don't know, do you ever meet people?
Speaker 5: I guess it's I feel like, okay, I don't want
Speaker 5: to sound crazy.
Speaker 2: I feel like the world okay to sound crazy that
Speaker 2: what you said, the world is testing you.
Speaker 5: I feel like it because it's like I don't know,
Speaker 5: there's a lot of I don't know obviously my so
Speaker 5: my ex, Like I don't know, I don't know. It's
Speaker 5: like I feel like there's a lot of parallels.
Speaker 2: I guess there's a lot of between your ex and
Speaker 2: this boy. Yes, oh my god, they have do they
Speaker 2: have similar personalities?
Speaker 5: So here's the part that's the So my ex was
Speaker 5: kind of like a I don't want to say, a
Speaker 5: shitty person. He was just not mentally okay. So he
Speaker 5: convinced me that he was like this bad and the
Speaker 5: other would tell me all these things and then go
Speaker 5: and tell his friends like something else completely, and then
Speaker 5: I found out all of these lives after he died.
Speaker 5: So I in my head, the person that I knew
Speaker 5: was not the person I was dating when it comes
Speaker 5: to my ex, but the person who he tried to
Speaker 5: convince me that he was is the person that my
Speaker 5: new boyfriend actually.
Speaker 2: It ooh, which is like, it's interesting, Yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 2: It's interesting. I haven't told I mean, I'm I'm I'm
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry that uh that all of that that
Speaker 2: that happened with your ex boyfriend minutes. That's a horrible,
Speaker 2: uh way for that to have ended. It's interesting that
Speaker 2: you're yeah, I guess meeting someone who is uh yeah,
Speaker 2: I guess the person that you thought your ex was.
Speaker 2: But you're not. But you're not. You don't want to
Speaker 2: date anyone right now, You're you're living your life. You're chilling.
Speaker 2: What do you what are you doing?
Speaker 5: Want I'm oh, oh, I'm so glad you asked so
Speaker 5: for two years. So this happened on like twenty twenty two. No,
Speaker 5: it happened in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So for the past like two years, I was, Oh,
Speaker 5: I wasn't doing shit, Like I sound like a fucking loser.
Speaker 5: I wasn't doing anything. I was just like couch popping.
Speaker 5: I was like living with other people. I lived at
Speaker 5: this like I don't know, just it was just bad.
Speaker 5: Like I didn't I couldn't keep a job, I couldn't
Speaker 5: really do anything. I was making like I was hustling though,
Speaker 5: like I don't want to sound like I was just
Speaker 5: a complete mom. I was definitely hustling. But now these
Speaker 5: past six months, since like February April around that time,
Speaker 5: I have been oh, my god, So I did like
Speaker 5: door to door. I went from doing nothing to I
Speaker 5: did door to door for a bit. They had me
Speaker 5: like traveling out of state. I was like door knocking
Speaker 5: in the middle of a blizzard. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 5: fuck that, I don't want to do this. Did a
Speaker 5: bunch of other sales jobs I worked in my last
Speaker 5: position I was I was a sales representative and a
Speaker 5: call center, so I was just setting appointments for people
Speaker 5: all day. And then I recently lost that job kind
Speaker 5: of like I don't know, I met this guy I've
Speaker 5: known him for like, I don't know. It felt rush.
Speaker 5: That's another reason I don't want to like dream. But
Speaker 5: it was like, I don't know, I I wasn't doing
Speaker 5: good these costumers. And then I was like, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I kind of just cut that off for a little bit.
Speaker 5: And then I I just got accepted to get my
Speaker 5: insurance lessons with I was.
Speaker 1: Uh, oh great, Yeah, they gave you a thing.
Speaker 5: That said I was a Blue Ribbon higher, So I'm
Speaker 5: gonna be on a track to the stupid money.
Speaker 2: How How old how old are you?
Speaker 1: Ash?
Speaker 5: I just turned twenty one?
Speaker 2: Oh you did? Okayh yeah you know what Ash? Uh, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you've been through some fucking shit.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: That's some that's some fucking ship. I mean, that's that's uh,
Speaker 2: that's a lot. I'm happy for you, Ash, Honestly, you
Speaker 2: seem like you. You seem like, Look, you got your
Speaker 2: own apartment, You're getting your money up. You know, you
Speaker 2: went through some crazy shit. You're meeting crazy guys. This
Speaker 2: sounds like this is a nice time for you to
Speaker 2: develop your own life. You know, you have your you
Speaker 2: have four plates of dude. This chicken looks fucking awesome.
Speaker 2: You have four plates of Hawaiian brothers chicken. Are you
Speaker 2: doing good? I'm I'm I'm not worried about you. You
Speaker 2: have three jobs. Yeah, you know, you're saving up some money.
Speaker 2: You'll be You'll, you'll you'll, You'll be okay, You'll be okay. Yeah,
Speaker 2: don't let uh, I don't know, don't don't don't delay yourself.
Speaker 2: I guess getting into some crazy.
Speaker 1: Thing.
Speaker 2: I suppose. Hmm, Well, I'm glad. I I don't know
Speaker 2: if this phone I was this phone call uh helpful
Speaker 2: for you in any way, shape or form. I advice.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I can give you advice. Yeah, no,
Speaker 2: you did.
Speaker 5: I just kind of wanted to ear that out and
Speaker 5: that was awesome, dude, Thanks for calling. It's yeah, I
Speaker 5: don't know. I just want to say to you really quick.
Speaker 5: I've been watching a lot of your videos recently and
Speaker 5: I you're fucking awesome, dude, Like you're so fucking funny.
Speaker 2: Oh thank you Ash, thank you Ash. Oh good. I'm
Speaker 2: glad you said funny. I feel like I'm I feel
Speaker 2: like I've gotten so serious over the over the years.
Speaker 2: I don't know life is.
Speaker 5: That's why you're funny. Somebody will be like, just drop
Speaker 5: some shit in you and you're like, yeah, well this
Speaker 5: is what I think. I don't know.
Speaker 2: You're I appreciate you, man, I appreciate you. Is there
Speaker 2: anything else you want to say to the people of
Speaker 2: the computer before we go, No.
Speaker 5: To anyone watching this, go drink some water.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Ash, you have a good one.
Speaker 5: Okay, bye?
Speaker 2: That was Ash. Fuck this, Hawaiian Brothers said, like, go
Speaker 2: on Google images and search up Hawaiian brothers.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 2: It's just chicken. But I love places like that, like
Speaker 2: uh shitty Chinese food places and just places where you
Speaker 2: just go and they just put a bunch of or
Speaker 2: like or like there's a kariaki chicken place by my house.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll go there tonight, eat some chicken, put or
Speaker 2: put some rice in there, some vegetables. Yes, fuck man,
Speaker 2: that's all A guy needs. That's all anyone needs. You
Speaker 2: don't need a fulfilling relationship or career. You don't need friends,
Speaker 2: you don't need you don't need anything. You just need
Speaker 2: a styrofoam plate that has a protein, a carbon, a vegetable,
Speaker 2: and you'll be okay, okay. I have been strongly enjoying
Speaker 2: this new format of thing where I read viewer mail
Speaker 2: to close out the phone calls. So I'm gonna do that.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna read viewer mail to close out the phone calls.
Speaker 2: This is this is end of therapy Gecko session viewer male.
Speaker 2: Good calls today, Good calls today? I don't know since
Speaker 2: sometimes is the we get like a podcast is interesting,
Speaker 2: right because sometimes I mean for those of you who
Speaker 2: listened for a while, sometimes we get like because I
Speaker 2: just get whatever comes in. Sometimes you get a big
Speaker 2: crazy story of a crazy wow. I mean it's like life.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you're on a big crazy adventure.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: You're you're you're traveling on trains and you're what am
Speaker 2: I am I doing? Hold on, I got I gotta
Speaker 2: look at I can't even remember any of this ship
Speaker 2: you're travel I'm looking at my own part. You're traveling
Speaker 2: on trains, and you're ah going a strong woman competitions,
Speaker 2: and you're uh inheriting your dad's business in Vietnam or
Speaker 2: wherever it was. You guys, remember that sometimes you're doing
Speaker 2: crazy shit. But then you know, but that's not all
Speaker 2: that life is. Sometimes life is just sitting with your
Speaker 2: homie in a in a parking lot out of Bucky's,
Speaker 2: or it's eating fucking chicken. You know, that's that's life.
Speaker 2: I want that. I think it's good. I think it's
Speaker 2: good to have big, crazy things and then also just
Speaker 2: normal life stuff. Let's read some emails. I got a
Speaker 2: few of them here right now in front of my face. Uh,
Speaker 2: let's see here. Okay. Actually I lied when I said
Speaker 2: they had them. If I really had them in front
Speaker 2: of me, I wouldn't be looking for them right now.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Therapy Gecko mail at gmail dot com. By the way,
Speaker 2: if you want to to have me read your email,
Speaker 2: you can send an email to therapy geckomail at gmail
Speaker 2: dot com. If you if you sent me an email
Speaker 2: at one point, send send me one again. Maybe I'll
Speaker 2: I need any more emails to read. I'm addicted to
Speaker 2: reading email. This is from Sianna. Subject line. I'm dropping
Speaker 2: out of law school to work at REI. Hey gek,
Speaker 2: I don't care about remaining anonymous. My name is Sianna
Speaker 2: and I am a twenty two year old soon to
Speaker 2: be ex law student. After performing really really well in
Speaker 2: my first year and a half of law school, I
Speaker 2: am dropping out to work at RII and probably do
Speaker 2: some other weird stuff that makes me happy. I grew
Speaker 2: up poor, and I think I convinced myself that nobody
Speaker 2: likes their job, so I might as well do something
Speaker 2: that I'm good at and pays well. I went to
Speaker 2: law school mostly because I knew I could do it.
Speaker 2: I did not grow up around any lawyers, and I
Speaker 2: had no idea what the profession looked like. I know
Speaker 2: it isn't entirely fair to generalize an entire profession, but man,
Speaker 2: these people are miserable. I hated law school, I hated
Speaker 2: legal work, and when I ended up hating a clinic,
Speaker 2: I thought I would really enjoy working in I decided
Speaker 2: that I can't sunk cost fallacy myself into an insanely
Speaker 2: expensive degree that I despise just because I might make
Speaker 2: a lot of money. Recently, I have met a lot
Speaker 2: of people who really love what they do, and I
Speaker 2: want to live my life more like them. I am
Speaker 2: living in an entirely different area for the first time,
Speaker 2: and while ARII is not a solid way to grow
Speaker 2: a career, it sounds fun and I am so so
Speaker 2: burnt out. Life is too short to do something that
Speaker 2: I hate, and I know I can find a way
Speaker 2: to make this work. There's a lot more to the story,
Speaker 2: but I mostly wanted to tell you this anyway. I
Speaker 2: love the podcast. I've been listening to it for years,
Speaker 2: and I appreciate your Gecko wisdom. I appreciate your fucking
Speaker 2: Siana wisdom. Dude, Kudos kudos. That takes a lot of
Speaker 2: courage to do what you do, to do what you did,
Speaker 2: to do what you did what you do. It takes
Speaker 2: all my courage to do what you did, Sianna.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's capitalism or what it is,
Speaker 2: but like you, I think in society we are not
Speaker 2: encouraged enough to like take a step back and be like, wait,
Speaker 2: why am I actually doing any of the things that
Speaker 2: I'm doing. It's an important thing. You only get one life,
Speaker 2: you know, you might as well you might as well
Speaker 2: try if you have the ability to you might as
Speaker 2: well try to do things that you uh, that you like.
Speaker 2: And it's cool, especially because, yeah, I guess you can.
Speaker 2: You kind of conditioned yourself into believing, like, well, why
Speaker 2: the fuck should I like what I do? You know,
Speaker 2: I was talking about this a little bit on the
Speaker 2: previous episode, like, like, I like, I've convinced i've you can.
Speaker 2: You can kind of condition yourself to be like, well, well,
Speaker 2: why the fuck am I supposed to be happy? Why
Speaker 2: the fuck am I supposed to like my job? Why
Speaker 2: the fuck?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: Who do I think I am? To enjoy my existence
Speaker 2: on this planet? And you know, I think it's a
Speaker 2: stupid way to live. So I'm glad that you're living
Speaker 2: in the opposite and doing what makes you happy. It's cool. Sienna,
Speaker 2: I have a Sienna.
Speaker 1: This is.
Speaker 2: This is from Eric. Subject line is OI, hey gek.
Speaker 2: I hope you're doing good. For a while, you seem
Speaker 2: to be doing a lot better, but lately you seem down.
Speaker 2: Oh no, maybe it's just a phase. But try to
Speaker 2: remember all the little things to be grateful for and
Speaker 2: stay positive. We love you, Thank you, Eric, You're very
Speaker 2: very sweet. My name is Eric. I'm a twenty four
Speaker 2: year old that struggled with substance abuse and found my
Speaker 2: way out through the gym. I just became a dad
Speaker 2: five months ago, and it's made me the happiest I've
Speaker 2: ever been. It's wild. I've tried to call a few
Speaker 2: times with no luck, but I'd really like to talk
Speaker 2: to you about dealing with substance issues, going to the gym, parenthood,
Speaker 2: or anything. Really. I have listening to your podcast since
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, and it's been getting me through tough workdays.
Speaker 2: I know you always say you're not a real therapist,
Speaker 2: but damn dude, you can give some pretty solid advice.
Speaker 2: I really like how most of the time it's you
Speaker 2: telling people not to be afraid of something they've wanted
Speaker 2: to do. Seems to be one of the repeating things,
Speaker 2: or at least what I've gotten from listening to the show.
Speaker 2: Hearing it so much motivated me to post gym content
Speaker 2: on TikTok after contemplating it for so long. I hope
Speaker 2: one day I can go to one of your shows
Speaker 2: and say, what's up, gek bless ps my TikTok is
Speaker 2: he put his TikTok handle in there. If you'd like
Speaker 2: to check out what I've posted so far, and I
Speaker 2: will pps. I'm not sure what it is, but you
Speaker 2: remind me of Charlie from It's Always Sunny. I hope
Speaker 2: that's not offensive. Thank you. I am really happy that
Speaker 2: you said Charlie En, not Frank, because I'm getting dangerously
Speaker 2: close to Frank. Okay, I'm gonnasten. I'm gonna look at
Speaker 2: this guy's TikTok. I'm gonna look at Eric's TikTok. His
Speaker 2: tick track is air ww I c I look at
Speaker 2: this guy. Holy shit, this guy's fucking ripped.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this guy's ripped. I'm not surprised this guy is,
Speaker 2: so you know, it's can I be like super honest
Speaker 2: on here. I'm like, I Eric, I like, I appreciate
Speaker 2: you saying these nice things about me, but like you,
Speaker 2: I just I'm just looking at your I'm just looking
Speaker 2: at you, and I'm like you are like you're You're
Speaker 2: the real therapy. Get you know, you're like a real person.
Speaker 2: You're like a you look like a full adult. You
Speaker 2: have a baby and you have abs. That's incredible. You
Speaker 2: should get. I want to listen to your fucking podcasts. Damn,
Speaker 2: look at this man. He's just holding a he has
Speaker 2: this TikTok where he so he has a is that
Speaker 2: a do rag? He's a red do rag on his
Speaker 2: head and he's holding his baby. And his baby has
Speaker 2: a do rag and his baby has abs. I'm glad,
Speaker 2: I'm glad you sent me this. I'm glad I clicked
Speaker 2: on this. Let's see here, I'm trying to find some
Speaker 2: some emails here. I got a whole Oh okay. This
Speaker 2: is from Nicholas's subject line hippopotamus problem. If you were
Speaker 2: just chilling one day and a purple hippopotamus unexpectedly entered
Speaker 2: your bedroom, what's your first move? I would scream?
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: This is from Amelia. Hello. My name is Millie and
Speaker 2: I'm from Adelaide, Australia. I was at your show when
Speaker 2: you were here years ago. I was sitting in the
Speaker 2: front row. Hell yeah, yeah, that was a fun time.
Speaker 2: I've always wanted to call in, but I'm worried about
Speaker 2: how much an international call like that would cost. I
Speaker 2: have recently found myself single, and it has been a journey,
Speaker 2: but a journey I am grateful to be on. I
Speaker 2: have reconnected with some people from my past and I
Speaker 2: have made closer friendships and will be going on my
Speaker 2: first international trip soon that does not involve a parental figure.
Speaker 2: My friends and I are going to Korea in September
Speaker 2: to see the Bouldering World Champs, specifically the women's They
Speaker 2: are all so hot and sexy and strong, and it
Speaker 2: is such a gay awakening. I have cried several times
Speaker 2: from anxiety around this trip. Why anxiety. I get very
Speaker 2: bad plain anxiety, and I have never been to a
Speaker 2: country where English is the first language. My friend that
Speaker 2: I'm going with is super excited and is super confident,
Speaker 2: and we've had conversations about how I might not do
Speaker 2: so well and he has been super supportive, which is
Speaker 2: just so sweet. I've recently come across a quote that
Speaker 2: has been helping me a bit. We don't follow the mood,
Speaker 2: we follow the plan. I don't know if I agree
Speaker 2: with that. I feel like we naturally, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I feel like I make plans. I feel like I'm
Speaker 2: half and half. I'll follow half of a plan, but
Speaker 2: then once my mood interrupts the plan, that plan is fucked.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I really struggle with my emotions and they can
Speaker 2: usually get the better of me. And because of that
Speaker 2: I end up not doing things that I really should
Speaker 2: be doing. But I have plans now that I want
Speaker 2: to achieve, and I think the quote is a good
Speaker 2: matra get bless. That's the email. Sorry, I'm sorry to
Speaker 2: mean to fuck up your quote, but I don't agree
Speaker 2: with it at all. I think, I think if you
Speaker 2: have a different interpretation, I don't agree with what I
Speaker 2: interpret the quote to be. I think if you have
Speaker 2: a different interpretation and it's a helpful to you, then
Speaker 2: don't let me suck that up. But let me tell
Speaker 2: you something about planes, Millie. Let me tell you something
Speaker 2: about planes. Cars are so much more dangerous than planes.
Speaker 2: You are, weirdly enough, extremely safe in an airplane, even
Speaker 2: the turbulence, even if it's like shaken violently in your
Speaker 2: banging your head against the fucking roof of it, you're
Speaker 2: safer than in a car. So you find I think,
Speaker 2: there's let's google this. How many how many? How many
Speaker 2: commercial airline crashes have there been? How an airline crashes
Speaker 2: have there been in Australia in the last ten years.
Speaker 2: They're pretty good about it. There have been no fatalities
Speaker 2: in scheduled commercial air transport in Australia since two thousand
Speaker 2: and five, So that means nobody has died in a
Speaker 2: commercial airplane travel in twenty one years. So it's not
Speaker 2: gonna be you. You might die in the in the
Speaker 2: car ride over there, but I don't think you're not
Speaker 2: gonna die on the plane, so you'll be all right.
Speaker 2: I don't think you're gonna die on the cab right
Speaker 2: up there either. I think you're gonna be fine. What
Speaker 2: I actually think is gonna happen is you're gonna go
Speaker 2: on a beautiful trip. You're gonna see beautiful climbing ladies
Speaker 2: and you can have a fun time. Also, yeah, go
Speaker 2: into countries where they where English isn't the first language.
Speaker 2: It can be a little bit intimidating. But once you're
Speaker 2: like that, once you're there, everything's gonna be okay. Yeah,
Speaker 2: once you're there, I mean things can be They'll be
Speaker 2: excited to talk to you. They'll be like, you know,
Speaker 2: you're Australian. Koreans. I think Koreans like Australians. I'm basing
Speaker 2: that off of no information. Do those countries have a history.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna google that too. What's the history between Australia
Speaker 2: and Korea. Oh, okay. Australia had a strong military involvement
Speaker 2: in the Korean War. Following the war, Australia helped with
Speaker 2: UN efforts to reunite Korea, and it became a strong
Speaker 2: ally to South Korea and established diplomatic relations in nineteen
Speaker 2: sixty two. The relationship has grown significantly into a strategic
Speaker 2: partnership with robust security and people to people ties. Okay,
Speaker 2: so you're good. They love you over there. You're gonna
Speaker 2: be okay. Yeah, they're excited for you to come. So
Speaker 2: you're gonna be all right, Millie, let me know how
Speaker 2: it is. This sounds fun. I want to go to Korea.
Speaker 2: I want to go to Korea and dress up as
Speaker 2: a get go and walk around.
Speaker 1: Hm.
Speaker 2: That was a nice email. Should I read one more?
Speaker 2: Let me see if let me see if I can
Speaker 2: find like a nice, short and sweet one to just
Speaker 2: just bring us on home. Okay, this is from Maximus.
Speaker 2: Subject line idk Man. Maximus says, I couldn't think of
Speaker 2: anything to say, so here's a picture of my cat.
Speaker 2: He sent the picture of his cat. I know this
Speaker 2: is an audio podcast and you can't see the cat,
Speaker 2: but you can you can know that I am looking
Speaker 2: at a picture of a cat right now, and maybe
Speaker 2: that does something for you. This was the Therapy Gecko podcast.
Speaker 2: I hope you guys had a good time. I hope
Speaker 2: you guys had a good time. If you live in Edmonton, Canada,
Speaker 2: I am doing a show at what the fuck is
Speaker 2: the name of this college may Swan University on November sixth.
Speaker 2: It is in fact open to the public. So if
Speaker 2: you live in Edmonton and you want to come see
Speaker 2: my Gecko show on November sixth, then come hang. I'll
Speaker 2: put the link to the show in the podcast episode
Speaker 2: description if any of you guys live in Edmonton and
Speaker 2: want to come. Other than that, got anything else to say?
Speaker 1: This was? This was.
Speaker 2: I hope you enjoyed this hour of hanging out. I
Speaker 2: know I did. I'm a little sleepy now I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go to sleep. Much love to everyone out there listening
Speaker 2: to the show. I'm gonna I'm gonna go to sleep.
Speaker 2: Thank you guys for listening and see you next time.
Speaker 2: Thanks for tuning in to our program. Piepe goes on
Speaker 2: the line taking your phone calls every night, Goes, I'm
Speaker 2: just teaching you cloud of your life. He's not really
Speaker 2: an expert