Speaker 1: Oh that's notopp as if you heard this one before.
Speaker 1: But that team in Oklahoma City is on a hot
Speaker 1: streak again and the Celtics.
Speaker 2: With both teams winning, I'm so angry.
Speaker 1: I am a little bit about it, but hey, look
Speaker 1: it is what it is. They've been winning six straight.
Speaker 2: It's on earth.
Speaker 1: I mean, other teams like the Lakers and MAVs are
Speaker 1: getting healthy. That's one way to look at it, and
Speaker 1: hopefully with enough time to ramp up again the look.
Speaker 1: But we're getting into all of that and more with
Speaker 1: NBA Writer vocal songwriter Player to Loon on today's episode.
Speaker 1: I'm Miles Gray and I'm Jack O'Brien and this is
Speaker 1: Miles and Jack got mad, boosty.
Speaker 2: Three got it?
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Speaker 3: Fatter number eight, Gene, that's been secure the Celtics or
Speaker 3: NBA champions.
Speaker 4: Okay, war to Moon NBA right at the Guardian.
Speaker 1: A bit of a vocalist musician as they say, for
Speaker 1: tiny deaths. Uh not? Like who is that one the
Speaker 1: rapper who is convinced when she's in that Bobby all
Speaker 1: top thing, she's like a musician. I'm not a MAGICIANI
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not.
Speaker 1: But you are a musician and a fantastic writer talking about,
Speaker 1: you know, the NBA, but also a fan of one
Speaker 1: of the best teams, one of the best franchises in history, obviously,
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Lakers.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's one of your favorites right my house,
Speaker 2: one of your favorite teams?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get Lakers. I mean I don't really sort
Speaker 1: of wear my fandom just out there like that. But
Speaker 1: I guess if you if you had to pressed me
Speaker 1: and asked me who I'm a fan of, I guess
Speaker 1: I would say the Lakers probably Yeah, yeah, yeah, streets
Speaker 1: are sick Suki Hanna, that's right, Jabar, thank you for
Speaker 1: that one. But anyway, have you been, Thanks for thanks
Speaker 1: for coming back.
Speaker 5: I've been good. I've been.
Speaker 6: It's been a crazy year to be covering the NBA
Speaker 6: in l A. So oh yeah, I've been. I haven't
Speaker 6: had a dull moment since October.
Speaker 2: It's do you hear about the Luca trade?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 2: That guy is so good good?
Speaker 1: You think something's wrong with him? What's wrong with him?
Speaker 2: He's wrong with them?
Speaker 5: Honestly?
Speaker 2: Actually, radio act Yeah, giving off radio.
Speaker 1: Your counter next that guy, not Matt Geiger, the basketball.
Speaker 2: No, not even his energy in the locker room. He's
Speaker 2: literally radioactive, like doctor Manhattan.
Speaker 5: That's that's why I said it was the first time
Speaker 5: hearing of this.
Speaker 1: You guys just missed my Matt Geiger joke.
Speaker 2: I accept it, but he can give you that's radioactivity.
Speaker 1: There was science, there was old obscure sixers references.
Speaker 2: You know what Geiger counter is Matt Geiger. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: forgot about Matt Geiger. I mean not not in my era.
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no anyway, Sorry, and Claire,
Speaker 1: thank you for bringing it back down to earth.
Speaker 2: That's a reference.
Speaker 1: So washed, thank you, thank you for keeping us humble.
Speaker 2: And any laugh you do here on this will be
Speaker 2: pity laughs, pity laughs, only laugh around. So, yeah, you
Speaker 2: don't want to give people too much hope, right, they
Speaker 2: might go into comedy, they might start their own podcast
Speaker 2: or something. How do you feel just generally Lakers heading
Speaker 2: into the postseason. We're going to get into it a
Speaker 2: little more detail. But you are a Lakers fan. Are
Speaker 2: we allowed to say that?
Speaker 6: I feel like I try and compartmentalize because you're a
Speaker 6: compartmentalizer professional. I think I I spend so much time
Speaker 6: close to this team that like, there's so many human
Speaker 6: beings that work there, whether it's a player or like
Speaker 6: a front office person, that I want to see happy
Speaker 6: because I know them personally. So to that degree, I
Speaker 6: would say so. But I also, like, I am a journalist,
Speaker 6: so I try and I try and stay relatively objective.
Speaker 1: But do you know the photographers too, Yeah, some of them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's my boy, that's my boy.
Speaker 5: The lovely smile.
Speaker 6: Anyway, to answer your question, Jack, I think that this
Speaker 6: is it's not a great time to have kind of
Speaker 6: lost momentum, which is what it seems like is happening
Speaker 6: to them right now because obviously like reintegrating Ruiy and Lebron,
Speaker 6: and they lost several games while Lebron was out. They
Speaker 6: were down, you know a lot of guys for a
Speaker 6: while there, and it seems like they're kind of just
Speaker 6: they've kind of just lost a little bit of momentum,
Speaker 6: kind of like getting that back. Obviously, not a super
Speaker 6: opportune time to have to do that with the playoffs,
Speaker 6: you know, sort of hovering in the in the not
Speaker 6: too far distance.
Speaker 5: But I'm not like panic button level.
Speaker 2: Sure, yet I do. I just you know, as a
Speaker 2: Sixers fan, I do always remember the year that they
Speaker 2: went into the playoffs on a winning street, like a
Speaker 2: nineteen game winning streak, embid like got hurt halfway through it.
Speaker 2: It was Ben Simmons' rookie year, and it was like
Speaker 2: Sixers are the hottest team in the NBA. They're going
Speaker 2: all the way and it didn't mean any thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there is them, there is.
Speaker 2: And I think that, like generally is a good rule
Speaker 2: of thumb to keep in mind, is like how people
Speaker 2: are playing heading into the playoffs rarely carries over.
Speaker 6: I feel like I would just say, like Dallas last year,
Speaker 6: I feel like as an example of the opposite, where
Speaker 6: you know, they had a really rough start to the
Speaker 6: season and they kind of top fire like the exact
Speaker 6: right time, and it took them all the way to
Speaker 6: the NBA Finals. But I do agree with you that
Speaker 6: it's not it's not necessarily like a death sentence by
Speaker 6: any means. It's also not like a guarantee of playoff success.
Speaker 6: It's just sort of like you want to be playing
Speaker 6: your best basketball or at least ramping up towards it
Speaker 6: around now, Like now is the time you would like
Speaker 6: to start really kind of like rounding into form. And
Speaker 6: I feel like the Lakers were on that trajectory and
Speaker 6: then injuries kind of set them back a little bit
Speaker 6: and they just don't have a ton of time to
Speaker 6: ramp up for the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Sure, but better than happened when they did and not
Speaker 2: in the playoffs, right, And that's just I think health
Speaker 2: is very important. I say this thing that nobody else
Speaker 2: says that health. Staying healthy is a skill. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: agree with that, And I also think shot making is important.
Speaker 2: Say that I'm a unique thinker.
Speaker 5: Yeah, takes before this is really Yeah.
Speaker 1: The thing is your team's got to have the bigger
Speaker 1: number than the other team at the end.
Speaker 5: Yeah, at the end of the game, not in the middle.
Speaker 2: At the end, I actually have the defense. If NBA
Speaker 2: fans come by, I sit on my couch, I close
Speaker 2: my eyes and they just play game tape for me,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, shot making, you need to add. Shot
Speaker 2: making is.
Speaker 6: Really kind of bringing back the imposter syndrome that I
Speaker 6: had early in my career because I just feel like
Speaker 6: you're just blowing my mind.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to bring in some Rick Rubin for the
Speaker 2: you know, so you can relate as both an MBA
Speaker 2: writer and a song right, yeah, absolutely? And then just
Speaker 2: real quick, best Lebron song and why is it?
Speaker 5: It's a I.
Speaker 6: Think it's the og. It's og is the one that
Speaker 6: gets stuck in my head the most. And you know
Speaker 6: what can I tell you guys something? I was going
Speaker 6: to ask Lebron about the trend on TikTok. They had
Speaker 6: their last home game though, was like a really depressing
Speaker 6: blowout against the Bulls, So I'm I pretty much never
Speaker 6: ask a question in the locker room unless I absolutely
Speaker 6: need to after a loss, and especially after a bad loss.
Speaker 6: But my plan had been to ask him if he's
Speaker 6: heard the songs, what he thinks of them?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's his favorite? What's the one he's listening to
Speaker 2: on his headphones as he goes?
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I'm like almost certain he has, you.
Speaker 1: Know, he's a millennial, He's he's online enough seeing them.
Speaker 5: On Instagram reels, but not TikTok?
Speaker 2: Who do you even thinks? Right?
Speaker 1: Right? I don't know which one?
Speaker 5: What's that on Lebron Lebron things?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Man in the Mirror. Then there's the new
Speaker 1: Katy Perry, I glazed Lebron.
Speaker 5: I haven't heard that one, did you?
Speaker 1: Guys?
Speaker 6: Hear the press conference earlier this season where JJ used
Speaker 6: the word glazing like he was like giving Lebron. He
Speaker 6: was saying, Lebron has been playing at like a first
Speaker 6: team all defense level, and he was like, the kids
Speaker 6: are going to say I'm glazing, right, And I was
Speaker 6: just like, this is proof that JJ is still very.
Speaker 5: Online even though he doesn't post anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's but also maybe doesn't know what glazing
Speaker 2: means if he's dropping that, like.
Speaker 5: Does it actually act?
Speaker 1: Yeah? But the game of the week we were touching
Speaker 1: on that. You can blame it all on me. We
Speaker 1: had Okac at the Clippers on Sunday, which was a
Speaker 1: pretty which is a real close one one O three
Speaker 1: one or one. Thundertook that one away. Shame.
Speaker 2: By the way, this was not the game of the week.
Speaker 1: Okay, So it was supposed to be the Clipper.
Speaker 2: It was the Grizzlies at Clippers. Jaw was hurt and
Speaker 2: and so using our powers as broadcasters, we flexed it,
Speaker 2: yeah and changed it to okay, see it Clippers game.
Speaker 2: We are flexed it. That is such a such a
Speaker 2: overly self aggrandizing term for just like changing the schedule
Speaker 2: because he did a bad job making it in the
Speaker 2: first plit weshed. We have to flex on that one
Speaker 2: change we've been flexed on, which is a shame because
Speaker 2: they're uh, you know, like it's actually very entertaining to
Speaker 2: be rooting for them to lose every game.
Speaker 5: From this point forward kind of entertainment.
Speaker 2: They're in a real dead heat with the Nets. It's
Speaker 2: it's pretty exciting because so they're now currently have the
Speaker 2: first fifth worst record in the league. Our pig is
Speaker 2: top six protected. If they land in seven, it goes back,
Speaker 2: the pick goes to.
Speaker 6: Okay when the time is the funniest thing ever to me,
Speaker 6: Like fact that the Sixers could have the kind of
Speaker 6: season that they've had and okay, so you could end
Speaker 6: up gets their pick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 2: It is very funny, Claire, And I'm glad you think
Speaker 2: it's funny too, because I think it's hilarious and sometimes
Speaker 2: keep myself up laughing all night over it.
Speaker 1: So you are, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: It's so they need to lose everything from here on out,
Speaker 2: Like they just need to keep losing to protect themselves
Speaker 2: from from that scenario that indibility. Yes, it's entertaining. I'll
Speaker 2: tell you what.
Speaker 1: Shaden looked great. He was seven of twenty nine from
Speaker 1: the floor in the game of the week, Game of
Speaker 1: the Week, Yeah, exactly, and that one. But you know,
Speaker 1: they were check lists. They still figured, you know, how
Speaker 1: to play it off. My boy Alex Caruso still had
Speaker 1: another you know did Okay. I love watching him just
Speaker 1: just be the young man we always knew him to be.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they're twenty eight and seven on the road
Speaker 1: this season, uh, thirty three and eleven versus Western Conference,
Speaker 1: twenty six and for in one for is the Eastern Conference.
Speaker 1: They are fourth in offensive efficiency, first in defensive efficiency,
Speaker 1: first in steals, fourth in blocks, first in deflections, first
Speaker 1: and lowis balls recovered.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they just play harder than everyone. Yeah, and that's
Speaker 2: actually that's actually a bad thing because they're not gonna
Speaker 2: be played harder than everyone in the playoffs and so
Speaker 2: they're actually screwed. Man.
Speaker 6: I Mean, my thing is, like, I don't think there's
Speaker 6: anything left to learn about them as a regular season team.
Speaker 6: I think they've proven they're the best team in basketball
Speaker 6: in the regular season. The thing we're gonna learn is
Speaker 6: how that translates to the playoffs because we haven't seen
Speaker 6: it translate yet.
Speaker 5: I have no reason to believe that it won't. But
Speaker 5: like that's the thing is possible.
Speaker 6: There's no one sitting here like like, oh yeah, they're
Speaker 6: not like an incredible, like historically great regular season team,
Speaker 6: Like I think everyone, even people who doubt them in
Speaker 6: the playoffs feel that way. But we have seen to
Speaker 6: your earlier point, like regular season success is not a
Speaker 6: direct you know, like one for one with postseason success.
Speaker 6: Like it makes me think of the Phoenix Suns a
Speaker 6: couple of years ago when they were like the best
Speaker 6: team in basketball with a bullet all year long.
Speaker 5: They were incredible and then they.
Speaker 6: Got upset by Dallas, lost at home in game seven,
Speaker 6: I think it was in the second round.
Speaker 5: So you know, that's that's the thing.
Speaker 6: That's what I'm keeping my eye on, is like, is
Speaker 6: this the kind of team that's like susceptible to an
Speaker 6: upset or not in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: But overall, but like you said, you're like, but I
Speaker 1: you feel that it will translate on some level.
Speaker 5: I think this will be fun.
Speaker 6: I mean, like, you know, injuries obviously, like injuries are
Speaker 6: the one sort of X factor of the playoffs that
Speaker 6: you just can't especially a team that's been playing that
Speaker 6: hard all year. Like that's the one sort of X
Speaker 6: factor you can't really account for. But assuming everyone stays healthy, like,
Speaker 6: I have no reason to believe right now that okayc
Speaker 6: isn't coming out of the West.
Speaker 2: Right, scariest matchup for Okay so ok in the playoffs? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's a great question. Last year, you'll remember they lost
Speaker 2: to Luka Doncic, I will remember and the Dallas Mavericks.
Speaker 2: But so and this a lot of people aren't talking
Speaker 2: about this, but Luka Doncha is no longer on the
Speaker 2: Dallas Matvericks. I actually got traded to Lakers and so
Speaker 2: now he plays on the same team as Lebron James. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the man on the Lakers. Yeah, just asking you to
Speaker 2: say his name.
Speaker 6: I don't think as a team they're the worst. The
Speaker 6: Lakers are the worst matchup for OKAC. So this is
Speaker 6: going to sound counterintuitive as a team on paper, I
Speaker 6: think Okay's actually a bad matchup for the Lakers. However,
Speaker 6: I think Lebron and Luca are a nightmare matchup for
Speaker 6: anybody in the playoffs, and I would still pick the
Speaker 6: Lakers as the most likely other team to come out
Speaker 6: of the West if it is not Oklahoma City.
Speaker 2: O wow, okay, okay, I mean the West is a
Speaker 2: what like it is so stacked from top tobata, Like,
Speaker 2: there's just so many good teams right now. So right
Speaker 2: now as we record, the Thunder first seed, Rocket, second Nuggets, third, Lakers, fourth, Griz, fifth,
Speaker 2: Warriors are coming on strong. They're sixth. The Clippers are
Speaker 2: going to be in the play in the Wolves, seven
Speaker 2: and three over the last ten are going to be
Speaker 2: in the playing and then you know, down below you
Speaker 2: get the Kings in the Suns. Not not as scary.
Speaker 6: I would say the worst matchup is maybe the Warriors
Speaker 6: for them actually, like that would be okay, see, yeah,
Speaker 6: that would be the one that I would be the
Speaker 6: more concerned about because the Warriors are also pretty deep
Speaker 6: as far as like you know, perimeter athleticism and defense
Speaker 6: and all the things that okay see kind of hangs
Speaker 6: their hat on and then they have they can go
Speaker 6: star for star with Steph and Shay and then like
Speaker 6: I mean, I would argue, this is maybe a hot take.
Speaker 6: I would argue, like Jimmy Butler over you know, is
Speaker 6: on par with chet or Jada right now, so that
Speaker 6: that would be a team that I feel like that
Speaker 6: would be an interesting series at the very least, I
Speaker 6: don't know, you.
Speaker 2: Know, Jada is the like that I remember, you know,
Speaker 2: I had, Okay see on like a big like. I
Speaker 2: bet on them to win title last year in the
Speaker 2: off season, so I had a big like stood to
Speaker 2: make some money if they won the title, and so
Speaker 2: I was really rooting for them against Dallas and the
Speaker 2: j dub of it was yeah, you.
Speaker 5: Know, they keep flos too. Even with that, I mean, it.
Speaker 2: Was did, but it was it's not fun to rely
Speaker 2: on the people on that team who aren't SGA or
Speaker 2: at least it wasn't last year. They've obviously been much
Speaker 2: better this year, but it's still like they are amazing.
Speaker 2: They had they have a lot of but like that
Speaker 2: number two three score is just like not as reliable
Speaker 2: as you want it to be.
Speaker 6: And I think that's why I'm high on the Lakers
Speaker 6: as like a potential like second choice to come out
Speaker 6: of the West, is because I think in the majority
Speaker 6: of series they end up in, they have two, if
Speaker 6: not all the series they end up in in the West,
Speaker 6: they have two of the three best players on the
Speaker 6: floor in Luca and Lebron, and in some of those series,
Speaker 6: two of the two best players on the floor, you know,
Speaker 6: like the top two. So I think pretty much against
Speaker 6: everyone except for Shay and then Denver, they arguably probably
Speaker 6: have the best player on the floor at any given time.
Speaker 6: So I think that's why I'm higher on them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense to me. Miles is just giddy
Speaker 2: over there.
Speaker 1: Well let's get into the Lakers, but first let's take
Speaker 1: a quick break. We'll be right back to discuss the
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Stakers after this.
Speaker 2: How you do that?
Speaker 1: And we're back. So the Lakers forty three eight Lakers?
Speaker 2: So the Lakers, Okay, how do you do?
Speaker 1: I said, how look at you? You guys are so
Speaker 1: high up in defensive efficiency. How you do this? So
Speaker 1: right now, the thing that's happening with the fans losers
Speaker 1: of three straight and seven out of ten, we're just
Speaker 1: getting Lebron and really back in the starting lineup and
Speaker 1: other guys in the rotation that have been in and
Speaker 1: out as well, and that was a huge thing. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: let's just a little bit if people like really come
Speaker 1: back and we can we can van, we can really
Speaker 1: see how this is all gonna work out. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: that game against the Bulls was Bubba Sparks, as Bubba
Speaker 1: Sparks will say, uglay. Yeah, but again I think the
Speaker 1: way thank you so much. Look, I try and only
Speaker 1: do things at least at a minimum twenty years old.
Speaker 1: If not, If not, I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1: Benefit yes, yes, yes, and he had three x's in
Speaker 1: his name. I don't know if you remember that detail.
Speaker 1: But this team, I think again, a lot of people
Speaker 1: were like, what's happened? What happened to the defense? It
Speaker 1: was a mirage? This is I told you it was
Speaker 1: fake nonsense. Now part of me is saying they are
Speaker 1: exhausted and there are some sustainability issues here, and maybe
Speaker 1: that's something we can take a look at before saying
Speaker 1: this is an absolute disaster. What happened? Sorry, we're gonna
Speaker 1: be playing the MAVs and the play and like people
Speaker 1: thinking like, that's how far off it's gonna fall. But yeah,
Speaker 1: from what we've seen that, the things we saw did
Speaker 1: not feel like Flukes. Granted, there obviously there's a little
Speaker 1: bit of inconsistency right now, but I chalk a lot
Speaker 1: of that up to fatigue now, Claire, And because of that,
Speaker 1: I've adjusted a little bit my expectations from being completely
Speaker 1: out of this world and being like hang up the
Speaker 1: banner number eight teams going up to a little bit
Speaker 1: like Okay, I'll be happy if we get to like
Speaker 1: the QUSTIONN Conference finals. That'll never be respectable. How how
Speaker 1: do you see just sort of this recent run of
Speaker 1: games and put that into context for someone like me
Speaker 1: who wants to believe more or maybe I'm believing just
Speaker 1: amount the right amount.
Speaker 5: I think you can believe.
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't think it should deter your belief
Speaker 6: that they have, you know, a championship ceiling, but I
Speaker 6: think it has exposed some real flaws. Like, for example,
Speaker 6: like you were saying the defense, like obviously their defense
Speaker 6: was incredible for months. Part of that was just like
Speaker 6: super high effort and like playing super super hard, and like,
Speaker 6: I don't know how sustainable that is. Additionally, like I
Speaker 6: think teams are maybe starting to game plan a little
Speaker 6: bit now that they have a sample size of how
Speaker 6: they are playing defense, and so you're starting to see
Speaker 6: that show up. My biggest concern from this sort of
Speaker 6: losing streak is more so Ruey Hatchmura's health, Like he
Speaker 6: said in a postgame press conference the other day that
Speaker 6: he feels like his knee is at about seventy to
Speaker 6: eighty percent and that he doesn't think it'll be able
Speaker 6: to like fully recover until the off season when he
Speaker 6: can rest it, because rest is really the only thing
Speaker 6: that will like help his I think his tendonitis in
Speaker 6: his name. So that's concerning because I think the highest
Speaker 6: level of Ruy, like Ruey at his one hundred percent
Speaker 6: was really important to this team and was kind of
Speaker 6: fundamental to a lot of what was working.
Speaker 5: So that's like my biggest concern.
Speaker 6: Lebron just looks like someone who's missed a couple of weeks,
Speaker 6: Like I think he'll ramp up. I think the team
Speaker 6: is just reintegrating a couple guys that missed a lot
Speaker 6: of time, and that's going to take time. I think
Speaker 6: they have tended to play down to worse teams, which
Speaker 6: is like they're losing to sub five hundred teams. I
Speaker 6: think that's been kind of characteristic of this team over
Speaker 6: the last few years. I still think they have a
Speaker 6: really high ceiling, especially because I don't think they've even
Speaker 6: hit their offensive ceiling with Luca and Lebron yet.
Speaker 5: In Austin, of course.
Speaker 6: But I do think that you're seeing some flaws exposed,
Speaker 6: and you know, I would also point out, like this
Speaker 6: roster was not constructed with Luca Dontet in mind. It
Speaker 6: was constructed with Anthony Davis in mind, and they haven't
Speaker 6: had an off season to really address that. So I
Speaker 6: think anything beyond you know, like the second round would
Speaker 6: be probably like some level of overachieving, like whether it's
Speaker 6: the conference finals, finals, championship, based on the sort of
Speaker 6: like haphazardness of the roster right now. But I still
Speaker 6: think they you know, I would be I would not
Speaker 6: be surprised at all if they made the conference finals,
Speaker 6: and I do think they have a shot at making
Speaker 6: the finals.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think just talking about the Mavericks,
Speaker 1: I think like, in context, we weren't nest necessarily like
Speaker 1: being like, yeah, we need to build a team around
Speaker 1: Luka Doncic like it happened, whereas the maps are like
Speaker 1: we need Anthony Davis and that's what we're needing. And
Speaker 1: I think just the fact that we kind of that
Speaker 1: not as if we stumbled upon this, but the way
Speaker 1: it came together. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm like, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know what, No, Like, I think, just in a
Speaker 1: more practical sense, there would need to be just a
Speaker 1: little bit more time for the roster to kind of
Speaker 1: actually form, like hardened in a way that it's coming
Speaker 1: together with the right team and like James Harden, like
Speaker 1: James exactly take a step back.
Speaker 2: I mean, so maybe we should be talking about the
Speaker 2: Mavericks then, because they seem to be the ones who
Speaker 2: were intending to build this roster. They're doing exactly what
Speaker 2: they wanted to. So let's see where. Oh sorry, no,
Speaker 2: we won't to actually talk about them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, welcome back eighty though. I think it's commendable.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. My dumb basketball brain is just like, well
Speaker 2: I didn't think it was the Mavericks heading into last
Speaker 2: year's playoffs, and Luka Doncicic was good enough that he
Speaker 2: was able to just like drag them there, and now
Speaker 2: he has Lebron James on and now he has Lebron
Speaker 2: James on his team, so maybe again, maybe he do
Speaker 2: that again.
Speaker 5: Maybe again.
Speaker 6: I picked them as my dark horse to come out
Speaker 6: of the West last year in our like Guardian pre
Speaker 6: playoffs predictions and they were a five or six seed.
Speaker 5: I think so. I feel that's like one of my
Speaker 5: best hot takes ever.
Speaker 2: I did not have that. I did not have that
Speaker 2: on my all. We gotta go. We got to go
Speaker 2: into this next segment, which is where we ask you
Speaker 2: to tell us if somebody is a contender or pretender.
Speaker 2: And before before we even get to the teams that
Speaker 2: we had, who is your your dark horse for the
Speaker 2: two divisions? Who you got coming out of the East.
Speaker 2: If it's not like one of those teams, if there
Speaker 2: is another situation like last year where I don't think
Speaker 2: anybody had the MAVs coming out other than you, other
Speaker 2: than me, who would you say, could maybe we don't
Speaker 2: even do this because I do think it's going to
Speaker 2: be it's gonna be one of those yeah sells to
Speaker 2: the Cavs. But who out of the West could you
Speaker 2: see be in the dark horse?
Speaker 6: Would you say, like, so, should we put aside the
Speaker 6: Lakers now since you already.
Speaker 2: Know that that's one of them, we are, Yeah, we
Speaker 2: are putting inside the Lakers. I think the consensus seems
Speaker 2: to be even if they're not, they don't end up
Speaker 2: as the top two seed that they it's like them
Speaker 2: or the Thunder, possibly because the Lakers just get so
Speaker 2: much coverage in the national media. But I do feel
Speaker 2: like they're not sneaking up on.
Speaker 5: Anybody, right, I would say I would go the Warriors.
Speaker 6: I think they are an example of a team that's
Speaker 6: kind of getting hot at the right time. I think
Speaker 6: the Jimmy Butler trade just really really like reinvigorated Stephan Draymond.
Speaker 6: I'm a huge Jimmy Butler apologist believer, Like I've never
Speaker 6: sold my Jimmy Butler stock at any of these stops.
Speaker 6: I think he's the kind of guy where it's like,
Speaker 6: if you pay him, he's fine, Like he's not going
Speaker 6: to cause problems. He just wants to get paid for
Speaker 6: his services. So I think he's paid, he's happy. He
Speaker 6: still hasn't want a championship, but he would love to.
Speaker 2: So I think Madonna to be.
Speaker 5: Paid, I know, right.
Speaker 6: I feel like the narrative is just like, oh, he's
Speaker 6: such a curmudget in every stop. It's like he does
Speaker 6: great everywhere he is until the front office doesn't want
Speaker 6: to pay him, you know, the whatever the max is
Speaker 6: that he can get paid, and then he causes issues
Speaker 6: until they send him somewhere where he can get that money.
Speaker 5: So I don't know, I feel like.
Speaker 6: You know, in this economy, yeah, relatable, but you know
Speaker 6: you're worth honey. He's also one of like the biggest
Speaker 6: like playoff risers that we've seen in the last decade.
Speaker 6: Like he's someone who absolutely elevates his game to the moment,
Speaker 6: and Steph is the same. So I think I would
Speaker 6: definitely not count out the Warriors. I think they're deep,
Speaker 6: I think they have good defense. I think they have
Speaker 6: they could have the best player on the floor and
Speaker 6: a given night.
Speaker 5: So yeah, has.
Speaker 2: There ever been anybody as who it was as consistent
Speaker 2: about just like beating a whole step better in the playoffs,
Speaker 2: Like not like somebody who always comes up in the
Speaker 2: clutch in the playoffs, but like somebody who just was
Speaker 2: like yeah and then yeah, and then I take it
Speaker 2: like to another notch, and I play like a first
Speaker 2: team All NBA player even though I'm not even in
Speaker 2: that conversation in the regular season.
Speaker 6: That's a great question because I feel like all the
Speaker 6: people you think of who your like incredible playoff performers
Speaker 6: are also like top ten, top fifteen players in the
Speaker 6: regular season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5: I don't know he might be.
Speaker 6: I mean they call him playoff Jimmy, like if he
Speaker 6: has a whole separate name for how he is in
Speaker 6: the playoffs.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's him and I guess you know Paul
Speaker 2: George playoff p the two people with playoff nicknames. Then yeah,
Speaker 2: that's why I like hopes for the sixers.
Speaker 1: Just like looking at listicles from certain like you know,
Speaker 1: basketball outlets and things talking about like the top playoff performers,
Speaker 1: and you're just describing like the top five like they're
Speaker 1: just all time players.
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan was really good in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Or Jordan number two Lebron Ron James pre sh Okay.
Speaker 6: I will say it to like not to be like
Speaker 6: a super Lebron Homer, but I will say with Lebron,
Speaker 6: like he's obviously incredible in the regular season as well,
Speaker 6: but he is someone who I would say his play
Speaker 6: gets better and better and better and better, like almost
Speaker 6: to like a mathematical degree as he ramps up for
Speaker 6: the playoffs, generally speaking, like barring injury, Like I think
Speaker 6: he's he's not like a he's like a marathon not
Speaker 6: a sprint kind of guy, right, you know, what I mean.
Speaker 6: So that's not the same as Jimmy, but he's almost
Speaker 6: always better in the playoffs than he was in the
Speaker 6: regular season, regardless of how good he was.
Speaker 1: And even if it's a little quiet, it feels like
Speaker 1: he's doing that thing where he's like he's merely taking
Speaker 1: a deep breath before exerting himself. And that's what you
Speaker 1: see when things begin to seemingly be like less than optimal.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so what contender, pretender or chicken tender? Shall
Speaker 1: we do it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Wait, what is chicken? Can you define?
Speaker 1: I just wanted to add that. Should we have a
Speaker 1: third category?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Like fun delicious, little Chris, fun delicious.
Speaker 5: But not trying to be anything other than what.
Speaker 2: They not a full chicken meal, just a chicken tender.
Speaker 1: Or a contender for the NBA Finals.
Speaker 2: So contender, pretender, they're just pretending to be good and
Speaker 2: there is malice in their soul. They're trying to trick people.
Speaker 2: Chicken tender, they're fun, we liked them, they're just not Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're just a more of a one night thing. They're not. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're for dipping, not not for a full full meal.
Speaker 2: The calves contender, pretender, Chicken Contender, Okay, and you're not
Speaker 2: You're not scared off by the It was so they
Speaker 2: had a four game losing streak.
Speaker 5: I think that's okay. I'm not worried about that.
Speaker 2: It was weird, like everybody they played it was almost
Speaker 2: like they're winning was a communicable disease, where like everybody
Speaker 2: they played started playing out of their minds and then
Speaker 2: like they like the Suns was the last one the
Speaker 2: Sons beat them, and now the Sons have been like
Speaker 2: playing really well for the first time. It's tough, but
Speaker 2: now the Suns have been good ever since. But I think, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: they're like, what was that movie good Luck Chuck? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Great?
Speaker 5: The worst movie is a.
Speaker 2: Great but the premise was this is the guy who
Speaker 2: you sleep with and then you meet your partner for life,
Speaker 2: Like they this is the team on this road swing,
Speaker 2: this is the the Cavs are the team you played
Speaker 2: and suddenly like figured your team out.
Speaker 6: And I just feel like they've been playing really really well,
Speaker 6: really consistently, like like scary consistently. They how many losses
Speaker 6: do they have on the season, Like they've just been
Speaker 6: playing out of their minds from since October. I think
Speaker 6: it's natural to they have the number one seed locked
Speaker 6: up with a bullet fourteen losses, fourteen losses total, they
Speaker 6: have the number one seed.
Speaker 5: It's not even close.
Speaker 6: No one's going to come close to like taking that
Speaker 6: number one seed from them, not even Boston. So it's
Speaker 6: kind of natural, I think, to have like a little
Speaker 6: bit of a leutdown when you're like, okay, let's just
Speaker 6: get to the playoffs, Like, we have the number one
Speaker 6: seed locked up. So I'm not concerned they're a contender,
Speaker 6: all right.
Speaker 2: There they are four and a half games up on
Speaker 2: the on the Celtics, so it would be tough for
Speaker 2: the Celtics to catch them up.
Speaker 1: Next who we got mouse Clippers contender pretender, chicken tender pretender.
Speaker 2: Wow, you think there is malice malice.
Speaker 6: And their so I think I just hear people talking
Speaker 6: about them like, oh, don't forget about the Clippers and
Speaker 6: playing really well, and it's like, I think we've earned
Speaker 6: the right to forget about the Clippers at this point.
Speaker 6: I think that there's been enough years of evidence for
Speaker 6: me to not like hitch my wagon to Kawhi Leonard
Speaker 6: and James Harden in the playoffs and they look awesome.
Speaker 6: They're so fun, they're playing great that not signing Paul
Speaker 6: George thing is looking incredible.
Speaker 5: It's aging like a.
Speaker 2: Fine Okay, I had that trade Eternal Sunshine of this
Speaker 2: outless minded, out of my brain, so actually understandable.
Speaker 6: But yeah, so I just don't think like I think
Speaker 6: they're they're a contender to upset someone in the first round,
Speaker 6: but I don't think they're a contender. Contender they can't
Speaker 6: win for playoff rounds. I would be bowled over.
Speaker 2: Like right now. They would go against Houston. That could
Speaker 2: be an interesting serially, Yeah, all right, last one Nuggets.
Speaker 2: I mean, this one's kind of putting this on a
Speaker 2: platter for you. They're named after one of these things.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm just kidding. I want to say, chick contenders
Speaker 6: so bad, it's just commedically right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know.
Speaker 5: Here's a hot take. I think they're a pretender.
Speaker 2: Whoa, yeah, yeah you stink. It's everything that.
Speaker 6: Is amazing, and if you had like even one more
Speaker 6: helpful player, I would probably put them in the contender tier.
Speaker 6: This is like, I think I'm on an island with
Speaker 6: this take. I think pretty much everyone I know has
Speaker 6: them as a contender. They are not that good this year.
Speaker 6: They beat up on bad teams. They have a losing
Speaker 6: record against teams above five hundred. Obviously, like Jamal Murray's
Speaker 6: another sort of playoff risories, someone who does a lot
Speaker 6: better in the playoffs than in the regular season historically.
Speaker 6: But I just don't think they have enough in their
Speaker 6: supporting cast this year. And like you don't need you know, obviously,
Speaker 6: rotations shorten in the playoffs. You don't need to have
Speaker 6: a ton of depth, but you need to have someone
Speaker 6: besides Jokich, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: You can't play one on five. Their defense is atrocious.
Speaker 5: It's been bad all season.
Speaker 6: I think they're like twenty something ranked in defense and
Speaker 6: like as good as their offenses. I just don't think
Speaker 6: you can win four playoff rounds with like a bottom
Speaker 6: of the league defense.
Speaker 5: So they're a pretender to me.
Speaker 2: Incredible incredible hot takes. You heard it here first, It's
Speaker 2: gonna be what they bring me for HOA Lakers Warriors
Speaker 2: Western Conference Finals. I think, I like how we just
Speaker 2: eliminate everybody else? Is that here?
Speaker 5: I said for sure?
Speaker 6: Like was my number one choice to come out of
Speaker 6: the West Losers, Like you heard it.
Speaker 5: Here first CLA.
Speaker 2: And we didn't put the Celtics in there, so we
Speaker 2: also think they stink and have no chance chicken tender,
Speaker 2: Chicken tender, chicken contender. Actually, they would be pretenders. They
Speaker 2: have malice in their hearts.
Speaker 5: They're they're not fun, They're just Slytherin contenders.
Speaker 2: You know, they are slytherin right, like everybody.
Speaker 6: Like the Celtics organization has slytherin energy and I.
Speaker 1: Should fight me and the same color scheme too, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Is that a coincidence? There are no coincidences.
Speaker 1: There are none. There aren't.
Speaker 2: In the hypothetical off season for this show, we should
Speaker 2: just go through and group every NBA team by Harry
Speaker 2: Potter House.
Speaker 1: And wait, so who's in Slytherin? How many of the
Speaker 1: Celtics would you put in Slytherin?
Speaker 5: Like, oh, I haven't done individual players.
Speaker 2: You just do teams.
Speaker 5: That would be a lot of work.
Speaker 1: Celtics.
Speaker 5: It wasn't to do the team.
Speaker 1: But Celtics were Slytherin.
Speaker 5: Yeah for sure.
Speaker 2: It was a year too.
Speaker 6: It was like I was like thinking of like I
Speaker 6: didn't do every single team, but I was like, oh,
Speaker 6: this team from this year is definitely a Slytherin this team,
Speaker 6: like for example, the Calves in twenty sixteen Gryffindor vibe
Speaker 6: such Griffin. Even the color scheme, the spur like the
Speaker 6: Tim Duncan Spurs. Slytherin vibes to me personally interesting.
Speaker 2: Okay, I thought they were like more harmless dumb dumbs,
Speaker 2: but like not not.
Speaker 6: And I feel like the Nuggets, but you have the
Speaker 6: championship Nuggets had hufflepuff.
Speaker 2: Energy huffle puff That's what I was thinking. Yeah, who's
Speaker 2: Raven Claw?
Speaker 5: I know, right, Memphis.
Speaker 6: I don't think it's like super cerebral, like who plays
Speaker 6: like I guess Golden State. It's like super like high
Speaker 6: level cerebral brand of basketball.
Speaker 2: But trying to do this game having only read like
Speaker 2: one of the books.
Speaker 6: I haven't read them since I was a child, but
Speaker 6: I'm very familiar.
Speaker 2: It's like the this is like the vibes.
Speaker 6: This is like street Man astrology. I feel like how
Speaker 6: Harry Potter House is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly so.
Speaker 6: And I'm a big astrology person, so I kind of
Speaker 6: know every.
Speaker 1: Susan Miller yep.
Speaker 2: And then rename all the uh, all the players as JK.
Speaker 2: Rowling would name them. Oh, actually, we're out of time.
Speaker 2: That would be too offensive. Let's take a quick break.
Speaker 2: We'll be right back, and we're back.
Speaker 1: Maybe we're back.
Speaker 2: Any kind of fool could see. Damn I sang that
Speaker 2: so well. We have to worry about, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: this episode being taken down.
Speaker 1: The sound sweeper, catching that with soundsweeper. It was the
Speaker 1: real thing. Nah, just worry about the street sweepers. Fam
Speaker 1: guess what Claire to loon is a fourth quarter rapid
Speaker 1: fire round of questioning. We love having you on the show,
Speaker 1: and you are pretty good at being you know, band
Speaker 1: banded string with us. But I just wanted you to
Speaker 1: know that in this in this, in this segment, we
Speaker 1: will be rude, will be very rude if you take
Speaker 1: too long. We're about speed right now. Okay, yep, you
Speaker 1: already know. It's the fastest question answered segment in all
Speaker 1: podcasting history. We asked you a question, you just fire
Speaker 1: the answer right back. Are you ready?
Speaker 5: I think so?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, he's so angry. I can't oh this time?
Speaker 1: All right, Jack, who's going first? You go first?
Speaker 2: I didn't go first. That's okay with you? Go ahead,
Speaker 2: go ahead, So Claire, yes, Doc Rivers recently said he
Speaker 2: doesn't get enough credit for winning three games in playoff
Speaker 2: series where he blew three one leads. Uh, no one
Speaker 2: tells a real story, And I'm fine with that. It's
Speaker 2: unfair in some ways. I don't get enough credit for
Speaker 2: getting the three wins. I get credit for losing. I
Speaker 2: always say, what if we had lost to Houston six?
Speaker 2: Apparently he always says that no one cares. Anyways, you
Speaker 2: want more credit for the three wins he won in
Speaker 2: the series where he blew a through on lead. Just reminder,
Speaker 2: he's blown three three to one leads in the course
Speaker 2: of his career in the playoffs. There are thirteen total
Speaker 2: in the history of the league. He's got three of them.
Speaker 2: Three hundred and fifty coaches who've coached in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: He's blown five three to two leads, one two oh lead.
Speaker 2: But he's never been swept. Baby, what's another skill that
Speaker 2: you think we're underappreciating in the NBA? In the same way,
Speaker 2: I had to jam this in there somewhere. I was
Speaker 2: so impressed. I was so impressed by his ability to, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, find a skill like what about the three wins? That?
Speaker 1: And I'll open my next question with a Darvin Ham quote.
Speaker 2: So you'll forget the question, what's another underappreciated skill that
Speaker 2: isn't actually a skill that we should appreciate.
Speaker 6: More grabbing the camera, uh, and then showing it to
Speaker 6: the RAF to show them that Lebron James Scott fouled
Speaker 6: end of Lake Salt. It's only happened one time in history,
Speaker 6: but it was an incredible skill.
Speaker 1: Screamed, I thought to grab the camera.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me get that.
Speaker 1: Let me It was just so weird to see Pat
Speaker 1: Bev holding a camera.
Speaker 5: He's clearly never held the camera.
Speaker 1: Definitely has not hold held the camera because my father's
Speaker 1: a photographer. If I grabbed the camera by the lens
Speaker 1: like that, he would have lifted me to the sky
Speaker 1: and I would have floated away. But yeah, Pat Bev
Speaker 1: loved that gesture. Love that gesture.
Speaker 6: Just creative, a creative way to show the refs that
Speaker 6: they messed up.
Speaker 1: Next question, Claire Darvin Ham once said, and here's my question,
Speaker 1: who's the more dominant player Luca and Kobe's era or
Speaker 1: Kobe in today's era.
Speaker 6: I'm so sorry, it's really hard to be fasten. You
Speaker 6: guys are being so funny. No, no, no, Kobe in
Speaker 6: this era like Kobe in this era. Yeah, I think.
Speaker 2: And that's with that game that he had then, or
Speaker 2: is it just knowing that he would add wrinkles to
Speaker 2: his game to make him no idea.
Speaker 1: I think to make it fair.
Speaker 2: It's like you just oh take them as this.
Speaker 6: I was gonna say, like, Kobe is such a psycho competitor.
Speaker 6: I just feel like he's the kind of person he
Speaker 6: would like figure it out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly. I don't know.
Speaker 6: I think they both have skill sets that translate very
Speaker 6: well to both eras. Is that a political cop out answer?
Speaker 2: M hmm, yeah, I guess that's fine.
Speaker 1: We'll take it. We'll take it Luca.
Speaker 2: They'd be like, this guy's a gimmick. He shoots so
Speaker 2: many threes.
Speaker 6: Actually maybe okay, wait, I'm changing my answer to it.
Speaker 6: Would be Luca because he's just like a sort of
Speaker 6: pudgy looking Balkan dude and that had never had success
Speaker 6: in the NBA before.
Speaker 5: So they would definitely be like, I got the white guy. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I got the guy from like.
Speaker 2: Slvigia or whatever, seven r Vitas Sabonus. Yeah, I think
Speaker 2: I'll check him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna be asked.
Speaker 2: All right, you can pick any former Lakers legend to
Speaker 2: make a run with this current team.
Speaker 6: Who you got, Oh, I'm gonna go Shack because I
Speaker 6: think he has the skill set that they need the
Speaker 6: most on this.
Speaker 1: Storm missing We're missing a center. We're missing, missing the center. Yeah,
Speaker 1: right right exactly.
Speaker 6: Can you imagine Lebron Luca Shack starting lineup?
Speaker 5: Are you joking?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm about to fire up two k right now,
Speaker 1: make that happen.
Speaker 6: Actually, I would go Shack over Cream just because I
Speaker 6: think with with who they're going to have to play, yeah,
Speaker 6: to get to the finals, I think the imposing physicalness
Speaker 6: of Shack is more the skill set that they're lacking.
Speaker 1: Yep, yep, yep. Here's a bit of Lakers trivia, Claire.
Speaker 1: We know Magic is the all time triple doubles leader. Now,
Speaker 1: how many can you give us after Magic on the Lakers,
Speaker 1: most triple doubles, most.
Speaker 5: Triple doubles on the Lakers. Yes, Lebron's got to be
Speaker 5: up there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, number two forty nine?
Speaker 5: Uh is Russ Russell Westbrook?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, in.
Speaker 5: A Lakers universe. Yeah, okay, So it has to be
Speaker 5: someone with a long tenure that's a good question.
Speaker 1: They're a Jerseys, they're all hanging up.
Speaker 5: They're all hanging up. Oh okay, it's magic and then.
Speaker 2: Lebron magic Lebron.
Speaker 5: I'm like, Kobe doesn't pass.
Speaker 1: Like he actually is he up there?
Speaker 2: He did twenty one games, because.
Speaker 5: Number four it would have been, yeah, okay, you got.
Speaker 1: One, two, four, you're missing three and five.
Speaker 5: Can I have a hint?
Speaker 1: Old you were not alive and we were not alive? Jerry, Well,
Speaker 1: that's number five, number five with a lit and one more.
Speaker 1: You got to think of old just an old school legend,
Speaker 1: old school legend.
Speaker 2: She is legitimable for this, Uh, helps keep.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna bailor you out.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say Taylor, but I was like, you
Speaker 5: got it, good job.
Speaker 2: Oh that's incredible.
Speaker 5: Yeah that was cheating.
Speaker 6: But I say I was gonna say Elgin, but then
Speaker 6: you guys, you know I was second guessing myself.
Speaker 5: Look, I don't want to respect any Laker legends.
Speaker 1: We don't mean to do that. That was shocked.
Speaker 5: That's what we's on that list. Can I just say I.
Speaker 1: Know I was, I'm like, those are yeah, those were
Speaker 1: just double.
Speaker 2: Doubles all day, sure, all time, defensive wind shares leader.
Speaker 2: This this was interesting to me, Like what, I'm not
Speaker 2: expecting you to get it, but all time defensive wind
Speaker 2: shares leader. It's like a on the Lakers.
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, defensive wind Can you define defensive wind share?
Speaker 2: Like? What is your overall defensive impact according to like, say, you.
Speaker 1: Know the number of names a player contributed through their
Speaker 1: defensive play?
Speaker 2: That's right?
Speaker 5: Is it?
Speaker 2: Is it a D? No, it's not.
Speaker 1: You're in the neighborhood though, is wait really like the
Speaker 1: right era? No, oh, I'll do that. Just say what
Speaker 1: you will.
Speaker 2: Yes, how the not according to a D? But yes,
Speaker 2: is it? Kareem is Kareem? Yay? That's why the only
Speaker 2: reason I was like, maybe Kareem overshack is Kareem all
Speaker 2: time defensive wind shares leader. I mean, I guess that's
Speaker 2: maybe at a time when everybody shot, like when everybody
Speaker 2: drove into the paint and then did a set shot
Speaker 2: from their chest.
Speaker 6: So it was like you here, I know, I'm like
Speaker 6: Kareem playing defense right now in the twenty twenty five
Speaker 6: NBA playoffs might look a little different, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would look a little while. And last question,
Speaker 1: you are a musical talent. You appreciate music, So let's
Speaker 1: do a bit of a music question and a little
Speaker 1: bit of fantasy world building. You can create your own
Speaker 1: updated Up and Smoke Tour to another timely reference using
Speaker 1: artists of today. Give us your lineup for the Up
Speaker 1: and Smoke Tour?
Speaker 5: Who was on the original Up and Smoke Tour?
Speaker 1: It was like a rap show. It was like Redman
Speaker 1: and Method Man. I think Cypress Hill was on it.
Speaker 6: You know, I'm an agent of chaos. So let's go
Speaker 6: Kendrick Lamar and Drake Wow. Yes, Like it's like the
Speaker 6: Marie Condo, like meme, I Love Mess.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, fantastic, Yeah, oh yeah. The real lineup Snoop,
Speaker 1: dre ice Cube, eminem, members.
Speaker 2: Of D twelve Throat.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, yes there it is. Well that was actually
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Speaker 2: Oh, did we pick a game of the week? No
Speaker 2: game of the week, game.
Speaker 1: Of the week? Yeah, yes, yes, yes you.
Speaker 2: Friday nextep Bucks Saturday, Lakers at Chris Sunday, Clippers at Calves?
Speaker 2: Who you got?
Speaker 1: Who we watch?
Speaker 6: I feel like Nick Bucks will be interesting, like little
Speaker 6: maybe playoff preview situation.
Speaker 5: I don't know, it'd be cool.
Speaker 2: Let's go with that, all right?
Speaker 1: Mix and Bucks?
Speaker 2: You got me?
Speaker 6: They're both like the Knicks without Jalen Brunson and just
Speaker 6: the Bucks in general, or like they could lose any game,
Speaker 6: but I'm gonna.
Speaker 2: Get let's go day.
Speaker 1: Well, there's your homework, y'all, Knicks that bus on Friday,
Speaker 1: do your homework so you don't mess up in class
Speaker 1: when we see you next time.
Speaker 2: And players on the Knicks and Bucks don't make us
Speaker 2: flex you out all right. We don't have to do
Speaker 2: it again, but I will.
Speaker 1: We will do it to you, all right, y'all, Bye,
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