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Speaker 1: Welcome back to movie Mike's movie podcast. I am movie

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Speaker 1: Mike on Twitter and Instagram at Mike destro and this

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Speaker 1: week we're talking about the worst A list actors of

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Speaker 1: all time. Now, don't get me wrong, these are all

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Speaker 1: highly successful actors and great in their own respects at

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Speaker 1: what they do, but for some reason online you'll look

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Speaker 1: it up and people will slam them time after time

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Speaker 1: every time they put out a movie. And I just

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Speaker 1: investigate why I think that they are viewed as being

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Speaker 1: bad actors. Was it bad roles? Is it really that

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Speaker 1: they can't act? So I'll get into all that. I

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Speaker 1: was inspired by this because over the weekend I watched

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Speaker 1: the movie called The Way Back with Ben Affleck, and

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Speaker 1: I think he's one of those people that people just

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Speaker 1: great of actors. So I'll give my review on that,

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Speaker 1: which was the inspiration behind this whole topic this week.

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Speaker 1: And then also I will be ranking my favorite superhero

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Speaker 1: of all time is Spider Man. So what I did

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Speaker 1: Man movies right now, I'll give you which ones to

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Speaker 1: the line, but that's what I'm talking about on this

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Speaker 1: the Nashville Podcast Network Movie Movie Podcast. All right, so

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Speaker 1: today we're talking about the worst A list actors of

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Speaker 1: all time. So while these actors are successful, you can

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Speaker 1: that review now because I kind of have more to

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Speaker 1: say on Ben Affleck. So take a quick break and

433
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Speaker 1: then I'll get into that review next. All right, I

434
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Speaker 1: gonna get into my review now. Oh The Way Back

435
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,120
Speaker 1: starring Ben Affleck. So, Ben Affleck plays this character who

436
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,880
Speaker 1: was a big star on his high school basketball team

437
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,879
Speaker 1: back in the day and now he is the construction

438
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 1: worker and an alcoholic and you kind of learned throughout

439
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 1: the movie what got him to this kind of a

440
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 1: dark place in his life. But where you find him

441
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 1: is he gets asked to be the head coach of

442
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 1: a struggling basketball team at a Catholic school after their

443
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 1: coach suffers a heart attack, and he kind of battles with, Okay,

444
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 1: should I go back and do this? Should I go

445
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,719
Speaker 1: back and play basketball again? Basically because I haven't done

446
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,879
Speaker 1: it's in high school. So that's the kind of setup

447
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,159
Speaker 1: of this movie. We'll get into the review, but first

448
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,679
Speaker 1: here's a little bit of the way back. Our basketball

449
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,120
Speaker 1: coach had a heart attack the other night. We need

450
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 1: a new coach, Jack, And you know you give any

451
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 1: good no the last time you made the playoffs back

452
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 1: when you were playing. First of all, let me start

453
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Speaker 1: off this review with saying that it's not a feel

454
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,880
Speaker 1: good movie. So I feel looking for something right now

455
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 1: to make you feel good. This movie is not going

456
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 1: to do it. It's pretty sad. There's some pretty sad

457
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,639
Speaker 1: low parts, and mainly through Ben Affleck's performance in this

458
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,400
Speaker 1: so kind of what I was talking about earlier if

459
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 1: he is a bad actor or not, And in this

460
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,239
Speaker 1: movie I felt there was maybe some cheesy parts of

461
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 1: his acting that was kind of apparent, just mainly because

462
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 1: sometimes in movies where they kind of over tell the

463
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 1: story a little bit, where they want to tell every

464
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 1: little detail and have every kind of moment wrapped up

465
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 1: in there, there's stuff you just don't need to say.

466
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 1: Sometimes there's a scene in particular where he's like yelling

467
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 1: at a player on the team, and then it's just

468
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 1: kind of a weird exchange where I think it's maybe

469
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 1: a little bit cheesy, but I don't think it really

470
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 1: holds anything to him being a bad actor. I think

471
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Speaker 1: he actually does a pretty good job in this movie.

472
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,880
Speaker 1: And what I liked about this is that it does

473
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: get kind of deep into it of his character and

474
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 1: his struggle with alcohol, and it's kind of crazy to

475
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 1: kind of see that, Like it goes pretty dark on

476
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 1: that and then it doesn't really let up from that.

477
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: And what he kind of does in this movie is

478
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: he's coaching these boys throughout the day and then at

479
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 1: night he just pretty much goes and just gets drunk,

480
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 1: and then he'll come and back in and kind of

481
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 1: coach the team throughout. And I think it's really strong

482
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 1: in the beginning kind of showing that dramatic side of

483
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 1: it and his interactions with the players, and it kind

484
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 1: of really as a really promising beginning, and then I

485
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 1: think maybe in the middle it goes to a little

486
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 1: bit formulake where you kind of know what's going to happen.

487
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 1: About halfway through, I could kind of predict how what's

488
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: going to end. But what I think you don't expect

489
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 1: is the story of actually what got him to be there.

490
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 1: And it was even like a quick little moment where

491
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 1: they kind of lead like a little foreshadowing moments to

492
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 1: kind of describe what happened to his in his life

493
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 1: and what you know, made him turn like this and

494
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: what made him drink so much and what made him

495
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 1: kind of not want to be what he was was.

496
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Speaker 1: So I think this movie is I I would say

497
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,439
Speaker 1: it's pretty okay. The fact that I could watch it

498
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Speaker 1: at my house for about six bucks made it a

499
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Speaker 1: lot easier. If I would have paid that twenty dollar

500
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 1: price they had on when it first came out, I

501
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 1: think it would have been a little upset. But I

502
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 1: think right now, if you're looking for something new to watch,

503
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 1: something kind of dramatic and something with a unique kind

504
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,640
Speaker 1: of story, maybe a little bit formula, a little bit

505
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 1: cliche at times, I think it's pretty good. I would

506
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Speaker 1: give it three point five out of five basketballs. And

507
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 1: it's mainly because I like seeing Ben Affleck in this.

508
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: I like seeing him be that kind of character, and

509
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: in it, he plays, he looks a little bit different too,

510
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,439
Speaker 1: like he's a little more like beefed up bed Affleck,

511
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: which I thought was kind of cool to see, and

512
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 1: throughout the movie it's just kind of funny at times

513
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: where essentially, how I kind to describe this movie as

514
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: Ben Affleck getting drunk, yelling a bunch of curves words

515
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: and then some basketball. That's kind of what this movie is,

516
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: and I think that's fine. I think it's entertaining. I

517
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 1: think it's a little bit sad, and even some parts

518
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 1: in there it's not really cry worthy sad, but it's

519
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: just kind of a darker story to tell. So overall,

520
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: I think Ben Affleck is actually a pretty good actor.

521
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 1: He's done some really great movies that I like. Argo

522
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: was probably my favorite of his, and also Gone Girl

523
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: was really great, So I think he's a good actor,

524
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 1: just kind of takes some bad rules here and there.

525
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 1: But I think he's also an actor who can carry

526
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Speaker 1: a movie, which pretty much it's all him and this one,

527
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: So for that, I gotta give a shout out to

528
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: Ben Affleck. Maybe didn't work out with him as Batman,

529
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 1: but in this movie, pretty solid performance. I think A

530
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:52,239
Speaker 1: decent watch, all right, I want to try another new

531
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,959
Speaker 1: thing out on the podcast where I rank an entire

532
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Speaker 1: series of movies. So this week I'm gonna do spider Man,

533
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: because there have been eight differ print spider Man movies

534
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: and kind of have their own different incarnations and some

535
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: hit some high points, some really great ones, and then

536
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: some also hit some kind of low points. So I

537
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 1: want to go through and talk about where they got

538
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 1: stuff wrong, where they got stuff right, and kind of

539
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 1: my favorites at all this. And I think unique thing

540
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: about spider Man and why he's my favorite superhero is

541
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: because unlike maybe a Batman or maybe a Superman, which

542
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: are kind of knows the bigger ones, I think he

543
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: just has a more unique story and a more kind

544
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 1: of classic contrast of it being funny and also really

545
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 1: action pack, which I think Batman doesn't have that and

546
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: Superman doesn't have that. I think Superman is a pretty

547
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: flat character to be getting like in movies, like I

548
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: think Superman as a movie like, I feel like the

549
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: Superman storyline in movies just hasn't really been told in

550
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 1: a great way. So I feel like he goes around

551
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: the window Batman. It's a bit different, but that's such a.

552
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: The way Batman was then, right, was so dark and

553
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,239
Speaker 1: just so kind of in its own unique world. I

554
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: feel like when you put spider Man into there, you

555
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: can kind of go with the dark red a little bit,

556
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: but you can also go to really comedic, just action

557
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: feel part of him, which I think which makes him

558
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: my favorite superhero. So now, before I get into this list,

559
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: just know that where I stand on this is I

560
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: love pretty much every Spider Man movie, so I'm already

561
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: rating these is my favorite movies. I don't feel like

562
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 1: there's been one that's just been completely awful, So I

563
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 1: already hold these to a whole different standard when it

564
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 1: comes to superhero movies because Spider Man is my favorite.

565
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: But I feel like sometimes they got things wrong or

566
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 1: in some cases I would particularly let down, which the

567
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: way they decided to do things. So I'm gonna start

568
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Speaker 1: Wars number eight and I'm putting the amazing spider Man

569
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Speaker 1: two which came out. Now. This is Andrew Garfield playing

570
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,239
Speaker 1: Spider Man for the second time, and the reason I

571
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 1: was really let down in this movie is because the

572
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 1: introduction of Jamie Foxx in this, which I thought was

573
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: kind of cool. He was playing Electro and how kind

574
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: of a minor villain that kind of came out to

575
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: be was underwhelming. And I think the whole dynamic between

576
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 1: Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone in this never really got

577
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 1: anywhere for me because they were dating at the time,

578
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: and I feel like that relationship didn't really translate to

579
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: any chemistry on screen. And I just felt with these

580
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: Amazing Spider Man movies ever so much kind of going

581
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: on in them that they never really truly found their charm.

582
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: They were kind of trying to get back to like

583
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: the original kind of comic book character I guess of

584
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: Spider Man, because they were calling the Amazing Spider Man

585
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: like was you know when he first came out, but

586
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: yet like the only real difference they did. Instead of

587
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: Emma Watson playing Mary Jane Parker, she was playing when

588
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: Stacy was just I felt ended up being confusing for people.

589
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: And I felt in this one the fact that I

590
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: was just so let down by Jamie Foxx and this

591
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: that I had to put it as the worst one

592
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: and easily the most forgettable at number seven. I gotta

593
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: give it to Spider Man three. Now, it's really hard

594
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: to do a trilogy and have the third movie be great,

595
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: and I think Spider Man just really dropped the ball

596
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: in this one, and I think kind of going back,

597
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: you go back and watch it and kind of see

598
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: how cringe it was, which I didn't really feel that

599
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: at the time. I was a lot younger than and

600
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: I just felt like, well, that wasn't very great. Now,

601
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: it wasn't the Emo dance scene that lost it for me.

602
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: What did it in for me was that Venom was

603
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: introduced into this movie. And Venom is arguably one of

604
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: the best comic book villains of all time. Now he's

605
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: just this really creepy, crazy villain that I loved from

606
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: like the cartoon, in the video games, and he just

607
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: looks awesome. And when I knew he was gonna be

608
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: in this movie and made me want to go see

609
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: this kind of how I was underwhelmed with Jamie Foxx

610
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: in Spider Man The Amazing Spider Man too, and this

611
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: one they really just glossed over Venom and you have

612
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: essentially Eric Foreman from that seventies show Out of Nowhere

613
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: becoming Venom and it's a like a very quick part

614
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: at the end of the movie and then it's gone.

615
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,239
Speaker 1: So I felt like that was just really overlooked and

616
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: just had nothing to do with it, And it was

617
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: really the only reason I kind of was interested in

618
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: this one at this point, and I felt that mixed

619
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: in with just the overall weirdness of the movie, it

620
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: just kind of didn't really have the charm as the

621
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: other one. Still a decent superhero movie, but just really

622
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: kind of lost it in the end. At number six,

623
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: I have to put the Amazing Spider Man from twelve now.

624
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: I felt it wasn't a bad movie. I actually like

625
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: Andrew Garfield as Spider Man. But I think the reason

626
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: people don't like this one as much is because it

627
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: was such a quick reboot from the original two thousand

628
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: and two Spider Man. It just felt so quick, like

629
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: ten years later, they're just doing the same movie again.

630
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: They didn't really change the story much aside from a

631
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: few kind of different details and his origin story. They're

632
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 1: really just kind of chasing the same thing here, and

633
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: I think it was just too soon to do a

634
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: reboot for Spider Man that audiences and people even like

635
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: me who are big fans of it, weren't really seeing

636
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: anything completely different to kind of buy into this. And

637
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: another thing, they kind of went on with this is

638
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: they were trying to really make There was a big

639
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: petition to make Spider Man so different, the fact that

640
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,479
Speaker 1: they were rebooting it so soon, they were like, oh,

641
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: we'll make them different. And there was even like a

642
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: campaign for a minute online to get Donald Glover who

643
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: is childish, Gambino, like have having played Spider Man, like,

644
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: have somebody different completely do it just to make it

645
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: a bit different. And then the fact that they went

646
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: with Andrew Garfield and kind of did the same movie

647
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: again is I think why people didn't really buy into

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Speaker 1: this whole two rebooted movies. So again, not really a

649
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Speaker 1: bad movie. I just felt it didn't really change anything.

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Speaker 1: At number five, I'm gonna put Spider Man two from

651
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Speaker 1: two thousand and four Tobey Maguire here. It's a great one.

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Speaker 1: I just think I wasn't that big a fan of

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Speaker 1: Jock Ock and in the first one you had Green Goblin,

654
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Speaker 1: which was such a great character, and then here you

655
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Speaker 1: have another kind of crazy scientist. Again, I didn't particularly

656
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Speaker 1: love it. I also didn't really like how Harry and

657
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: Peter Parker's kind of relationship played out in this movie. Again,

658
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: a really great sequel like the fact that the first

659
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Speaker 1: one was so big and this one kind of stayed

660
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Speaker 1: on par if not got better than that. I just

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Speaker 1: think it didn't really have the original charm is the

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Speaker 1: first one, but again, still a great Spider Man movie

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Speaker 1: here and number four getting into my really favorites of

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Speaker 1: all of these, now, I put Spider Man Homecoming from

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Speaker 1: and I feel like this is really where they got

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Speaker 1: Spider Man right in the reboots, where they kind of

667
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Speaker 1: had Andrew Garfield just be the same thing is Toby Maguire.

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Speaker 1: Here you have Tom Holland, and they make him a

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Speaker 1: lot younger, they make him kind of funnier, and they

670
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Speaker 1: really kind of get that essence of Spider Man down

671
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Speaker 1: here where the charm that Spider Man had in the

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Speaker 1: cartoon and even like in the video games is that

673
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Speaker 1: he has like really wise, cracking and kind of funny.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's kind of what they got right

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Speaker 1: here by making him younger and in high school and

676
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Speaker 1: the fact that he's just so thrilled by everything, and

677
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Speaker 1: the fact that him being a superhero is just so

678
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Speaker 1: crazy to even him, like it really makes the movies

679
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: a lot funner and enjoyable to watch. And another thing

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Speaker 1: is that they got away from the origin story of

681
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Speaker 1: his uncle dying, which I think kind of made Peter

682
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Speaker 1: Parker seemed very emo while it is a tragic event

683
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Speaker 1: over the time and just kind of be like, oh,

684
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: this is the same thing happening over and over again,

685
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Speaker 1: and we don't really want to see that anymore. We

686
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Speaker 1: don't need that origin story. We just need to know like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is him, this is what he's doing. He's Spider Man,

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Speaker 1: he's in high school, and it's fun, and I think

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Speaker 1: this is where they got it right. So then also,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to go straight into number three is where

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Speaker 1: I put Spider Man Far from Home, which came out

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Speaker 1: last year, and I think that one really took it

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Speaker 1: a step up, mainly because it came right after the

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Speaker 1: last Avengers movie, which was such a big movie and

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Speaker 1: had such a dramatic ending that this was kind of

696
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Speaker 1: the fallout rollout of that movie, of the continuation of that,

697
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,919
Speaker 1: which I think hit pretty hard just how this movie

698
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: kind of started. But given that it also came into

699
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,439
Speaker 1: be a really great movie on its own, and one

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Speaker 1: that I'm really just kind of excited to see now

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Speaker 1: where they take it, because it kind of leaves you

702
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 1: if you haven't seen it on a cliffhanger, what's to

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00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: kind of come with the new Spider Man movies. And

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Speaker 1: I think this one just has really great action in it,

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Speaker 1: and with that you kind of see Tom Holland in

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Speaker 1: a whole different category of superhero movie because he's just

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Speaker 1: so great at what he does, and he makes Spider

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Speaker 1: Man be kind of so fun and relatable again that

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00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: the movie just kind of has almost the same charm

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Speaker 1: as the Avengers movie. But he can do that on

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Speaker 1: his own, and I think it's kind of what made

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Speaker 1: us love Toby Maguire in the early movie so much

713
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Speaker 1: that it's back there again, and even so much now

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Speaker 1: that the c g I and the graphics and all

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Speaker 1: the action is even better. I think Tom Holland has

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Speaker 1: a chance to break the curse of the Superman. I

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Speaker 1: think Tom Holland actually has a chance to break the

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Speaker 1: curse of making an actually good trilogy to a superhero movie.

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Speaker 1: Spider Man could have do it back in the day,

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Speaker 1: Iron Man hasn't been able to do it. I think

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Speaker 1: this third Spider Man movie will break that curse. At

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Speaker 1: number two is one maybe not a whole lot of

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Speaker 1: people have seen, and I don't know why, because maybe

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Speaker 1: sometimes people just don't give animated movies a chance because

725
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: you think, oh, it's animated, it's for kids. Not true

726
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Speaker 1: with this movie, and it's a movie that came out

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Speaker 1: in ten. It's Spider Man into the Spider Verse, which

728
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: is actually on Netflix now if you want to watch it.

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Speaker 1: But I think the reason people love this one so

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Speaker 1: much is because how detailed this movie is, and it's

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Speaker 1: not just a great movie on its own. With the storyline,

732
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: which is really great and really just nothing that's been

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Speaker 1: told in a Spider Man movie before. It's this whole

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Speaker 1: kind of world. But outside of that story alone, visually

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00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: it's pretty amazing. Like the animation in this is a

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Speaker 1: whole step forward into a whole different kind of genre

737
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Speaker 1: of movie and it's something you've never really seen before.

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Speaker 1: But it also has all the elements of what makes

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Speaker 1: a Spider Man movie great and as the comedy, and

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Speaker 1: then it has the twist and everything inside of it

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Speaker 1: with the villains. It's just a really fun movie to watch.

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Speaker 1: And just the fact that it's animated doesn't mean that

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Speaker 1: it's just for kids. I think they use animation as

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Speaker 1: a tool to make things possible that would it be

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Speaker 1: possible in a live action movie. And it takes you

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Speaker 1: into this kind of whole different world that you couldn't

747
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Speaker 1: really get from an Avengers movie. And I think that's

748
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Speaker 1: kind of while it's been so critically acclaimed, why I

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Speaker 1: actually won an Oscar for the Best Animated Feature. But

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Speaker 1: don't let the fact that it's a quote unquote cartoon

751
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 1: keeping from watching this one. Because I loved it when

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00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: I saw it in theaters, loved it again when I

753
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: re watched it at home. So if you haven't seen

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Speaker 1: this one, highly recommended. That's why I put it at

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Speaker 1: number two and at number one, would it really be

756
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Speaker 1: a list if I didn't put the O G Spider

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Speaker 1: Man from two thousand two one that really started it

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00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: all for me at number one. Now, I remember watching

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Speaker 1: this movie back in the day as a kid and thinking, Wow,

760
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: this is gonna be the way and the standard that

761
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: movies are gonna be held to you for a while.

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Speaker 1: And it's kind of where you started to see that

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Speaker 1: shift of superhero movies really being a thing, because back

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Speaker 1: in the early two thousands you had X Men kind

765
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Speaker 1: of taking on that first wave of like everybody buying

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Speaker 1: into the fact that superhero movies could be mainstream, and

767
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: Spider Man took that and shattered all expectations with that

768
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Speaker 1: and just crushing it at the box office being such

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Speaker 1: a big hit. And I think the reason is because

770
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: this one's kind of classic, and it was the best

771
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Speaker 1: telling of not only his origin story, but also with

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Speaker 1: the Village of the Green Goblin, the love story with

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Speaker 1: Mary Jane. It just had all these elements that people

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00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: could relate to that weren't necessarily comic book vigians, that

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00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 1: he didn't have to really understand the entire superhero world,

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Speaker 1: which I felt later with the Avengers movies, you kind

777
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: of had to watch all those to kind of get

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Speaker 1: what was going on inside this world. I think this

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00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: movie kind of stands alone in that, and I think

780
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 1: everything's kind of done just in a really classic way

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00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: from the actual Spiky Suit in this too, him learning

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Speaker 1: his abilities and him kind of really coming into being

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Speaker 1: Spider Man, and I think it was just such a

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Speaker 1: big pop culture moment in the yearly two thousand's that

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Speaker 1: it really kind of put Spider Man and superhero movies

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Speaker 1: on the map. It has funny moments, it has really

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Speaker 1: kind of dark moments, even the action with like Green

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Speaker 1: Gobblin and it may of him kind of like terrorizing

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00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: her and kind of really getting to the core of

790
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: what a great superhero movie is from being down there

791
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: like there's no way he's gonn to meet this villa

792
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: into kind of rising up and being Spider Man. So

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Speaker 1: I think it's the best telling of the Spider Man story.

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00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 1: It still holds up visually to the standards of today.

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00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: And I just think what it was as a movie

796
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: on its own in that time and how it kind

797
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: of just from the soundtrack to everything just shattering like

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Speaker 1: what the culture was at that time. I just think

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Speaker 1: I have to put this one at number one is

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Speaker 1: being the best Spider Man movie and just still holds

801
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: up as being my favorite. So that has been my

802
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Speaker 1: list ranking all the Spider Man movies. Let me know

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00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 1: what's your favorite. And if you haven't seen any of these,

804
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: I would highly recommend. Probably if you had to watch

805
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: one that you haven't seen, I would have to go

806
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 1: with into the Spider Verse, just because it's pretty recent

807
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: and that one I think could actually make you feel

808
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: good right now. So checks that one out. And that

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Speaker 1: has been this list, all right, And that's the episode

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Speaker 1: for this week, But before I go, I gotta give

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Speaker 1: Instagram to add Brittany Lee Gretta on Instagram, who tagged

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Speaker 1: me when she was listening to the last week's episode

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Speaker 1: on Monday and said, oh my gosh of this podcast.

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Speaker 1: I love the Goofy movie. I just rewatched it on

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Speaker 1: Disney Plus this weekend. Thank you so much for your

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Speaker 1: great movie nowled No, thank you for listening to this podcast.

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Speaker 1: I was talking about that on my Underrated Movie of

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Speaker 1: the of the Week last week if you missed that,

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Speaker 1: and all you have to do to get an Instagram

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Speaker 1: shout out or a Twitter shout out is just tag

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Speaker 1: reposted about the week and then give you a shout

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Speaker 1: out on next week's episode. If you have a suggestion

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Speaker 1: of a topic you think I should cover, you can

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Speaker 1: always tweet me or message me on Instagram or also

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Speaker 1: send me an email. It's movie Mike d at gmail

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Speaker 1: until next week I will talk to you guys later.