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Speaker 2: I made this pack too. If you're out there and

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Speaker 2: I don't remember who you are, but let's get married,

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Speaker 1: Feel like everybody does make that pack, but very rarely

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Speaker 1: But that night he tried and it turned out so

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Speaker 3: It was crazy.

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Speaker 1: It went a lot deeper than the pact, but it

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Speaker 1: did leave the door cracked open ever so slightly for

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Speaker 1: maybe an opportunity there. And now we actually have an update.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: So you're gonna hear the original call first, then we'll

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Speaker 1: find out what happened since that fateful night in your

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Speaker 1: closure call update. Next, it's Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning,

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Speaker 1: and this segment is meant only for listeners who aren't

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Speaker 1: currently stuck in an elevator. Because those people already have

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Speaker 1: closure and they hate it. Yeah, this one isn't necessarily

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Speaker 1: about physical closure. It's more of an emotional thing that

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Speaker 1: and that's why we do a closure call.

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Speaker 3: Yes, oh, we had a door sound effect for that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's the sound of you getting closure, and one

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Speaker 1: of our listeners, Vincent, needs some help getting a little

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Speaker 1: peace of mind in his own life. So Vincent, welcome

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Speaker 1: to the show man hid because he's here, we don't

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Speaker 1: have the budget for that sound effect. That's all we

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Speaker 1: could afford helping. Next year we can get both sounds

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Speaker 4: Vincent, I just want to thank you for being on

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Speaker 2: Sorry, we're joking on the details of the second.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe your problem is something involving doors.

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Speaker 1: Tell us why you emailed the show.

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Speaker 5: So back in high school, I had a good female friend, Gina,

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Speaker 3: And so like, what if you dated? Is that what

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Speaker 1: What if you were like a superhero team, the two

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Speaker 3: I haven't thought about my friends.

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Speaker 5: It was like, what if it was more than platonic?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like super platonic?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? How long can I ask?

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Speaker 4: Like? Is this are we talking ten years ago? We're

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Speaker 4: talking three years ago?

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Speaker 5: Oh about twenty years ago?

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, it's been a minute. And do you still

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Speaker 5: We kind of exchange Facebook message here and there and

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Speaker 3: Who didn't make a pack? Like, I don't remember.

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Speaker 2: Who I made that packed with. I did make the pack.

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Speaker 2: If you're listening, find me because I'm in my thirties

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I feel like it's a pretty common

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Speaker 5: It was actually on our prom night? You know, we're

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Speaker 1: And how many girls did you make that pack with

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Speaker 5: No, it was just one for sure.

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Speaker 3: Did you guys kiss or anything that night?

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Speaker 5: We actually did. We sealed it with a handshake and

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we made the pack. Of course, we graduated and

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Speaker 5: You know. I definitely would have connected with her on

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So fast forward to two weeks ago, we had

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Speaker 5: I sent her a message saying you better be coming,

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Speaker 1: You might show up right to the reunion in your tucks,

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Speaker 4: So wait, what was it like when you guys reconnected

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Speaker 5: At the reunion, I see her and she gave me

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Speaker 5: She was just kind of cold toward me, to be honest,

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Speaker 4: Or maybe you're just I mean, there could maybe you're

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Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, but she drifted apart with everybody else too,

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Speaker 3: Born guy at the bar and you're like diverting him. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: There's something wrong, man, Okay. I mean we're starting from

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Speaker 2: the thumbs up. You don't send that unless you're just

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Speaker 3: Yeah. It is kind of passive aggressive feelings.

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Speaker 1: So that Facebook message with no response, that's the last

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Speaker 5: Yep, that was the time.

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Speaker 1: That's when you reached out to us to get some

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Speaker 1: she's still willing to follow through on your promise. That's

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Speaker 1: a huge question, I'm asking him.

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Speaker 5: We don't have to get married or owner the pact,

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Speaker 5: but I definitely think like we'd be good going on

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Speaker 1: So Vincent, you know how this works. Obviously, you've been

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Speaker 1: working with our producer to come up with some questions

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Speaker 1: that we've already sent out to Gina. Yep, we did, Okay,

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Speaker 1: so we printed out her answers. No one else in

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Speaker 3: She did respond via email to these questions.

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Speaker 1: Unless somebody like type them out for her. Kind of weird,

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Speaker 1: but we got a response. It's just like it might be.

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Speaker 1: Remember, Vincent does not know the answers either. He's gonna

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Speaker 3: Curious to even hear your question.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna find all that out when we do

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Speaker 1: your closure call next. All right, we're already running short

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Speaker 1: heard from one of our listeners, Vincent, Because twenty years ago,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but that was when they were in college, right,

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Speaker 1: worked with our producer to send four different questions to Gina.

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Speaker 1: She answered all of them and we're about to read

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Speaker 1: them right now. So, Vincent, apparently the first question that

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Speaker 1: wanted to make her laugh. Yeah, it would lighten her.

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Speaker 3: Uh, it's really really it's smart. It reminds her of

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Speaker 3: the friendship that you guys once had. Your connection.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, don't make it sound so like forever over.

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Speaker 3: He said that they only message each other like on Facebook.

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Speaker 3: I want to be a joke.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So you guys sent Gina a joke,

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Speaker 1: and you had our producer write one sentence. It was

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Speaker 1: it's been a while. Are your three favorite things still?

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Speaker 1: Eating my family and not using commas? You get it, like,

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Speaker 1: not using commas eating my family?

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Speaker 3: Kind of a visual. It took a second.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, probably works better over email.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Vincent, that's pretty good.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I felt like that was a good opener.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys have a lot of grammatical inside jokes

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Speaker 1: back in the day. But Gina replied, she said, quote

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Speaker 3: What did you do next? Vincent?

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Speaker 1: Obviously we had to get to the more serious meat

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Speaker 1: of things, so we sent We've been friends for so long.

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Speaker 1: I would really appreciate one hundred percent honesty. I don't

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Speaker 1: understand why you're not responding to me on Facebook. Did

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Speaker 1: I make you feel uncomfortable at the reunion because of

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Speaker 1: our dumb pact? I could tell something was off?

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Speaker 3: Okay, so we brought up the packed right away.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what else it could be other than that.

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Speaker 5: I really don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna read it. Gina wrote back, I'm sorry

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Speaker 1: that happened, but yes, it was extremely awkward for me,

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Speaker 1: but it had nothing to do with the pact. Please

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Speaker 1: don't hate me. But the truth is I felt so

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Speaker 1: guilty because a decade ago I went through some hard times,

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Speaker 1: got into drugs, stole from my family, ended up with

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Speaker 1: no money, Oh my god, and then at my lowest point,

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Speaker 1: I stole your identity.

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Speaker 2: Wait what what identity?

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Speaker 5: Wait?

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Speaker 3: Vincent?

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Speaker 1: What she says? I never told you this, but I

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Speaker 1: racked up a lot of debt under your name, and

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Speaker 1: every time I see you online or in person, now

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Speaker 1: I can't bear to face you. I'm so ashamed.

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Speaker 5: My god, are you freaking serious?

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Speaker 3: Wait?

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Speaker 1: Did you go through like an identity crisis thing like that?

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Speaker 5: That was a long time ago, that was over a

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Speaker 5: decade ago.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I mean, are you angry?

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Speaker 4: Like are you what is your first Like, I'm just shocked,

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Speaker 4: like I see that coming?

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Speaker 1: Whatsoever? Vincent, you said that you guys connected and she

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Speaker 1: spent the weekend with you that one time after college?

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Speaker 1: Is that maybe? Do you think that's where she could

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Speaker 1: have swapped your credit card or something?

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Speaker 5: It must have been. Yeah, when I went through that,

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Speaker 5: I mean, it was really tough for me. It took

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Speaker 5: me years to get my credit back to normal. You know,

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Speaker 5: I just never would have thought that that was her

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Speaker 1: We have the third question here, which is nothing to

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Speaker 1: do with it. I know, it feels because we sent

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Speaker 1: all these at once. Yeah, and so we probably wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have sent the rest of these. Have we gotten that answer?

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Speaker 1: But the next one we asked if there was any

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we would have asked that, if

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Speaker 3: Do you still want that, Vincent?

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Speaker 5: I really just want to hear what she has to say.

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Speaker 5: I'm almost speechless.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, she responded by saying, I doubt after you know

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Speaker 1: I totally get it.

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Speaker 5: That's it. That's all she said.

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Speaker 1: And then she asked for your pin number two. That

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Speaker 1: was all she said. That was all she said. For

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Speaker 3: I would steal again, right, I mean that's the thing.

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Speaker 3: She just feels terrible. Yeah, and as she should.

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Speaker 1: No, there's no good way to deliver this news to

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Speaker 3: But it's pretty amazing. She was so honest.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to the last question that we sent her,

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Speaker 1: which was regarding the pact. Can we amend it to

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Speaker 1: forty if you're getting cold feet, I'm willing to go

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Speaker 1: up to forty five.

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Speaker 5: Lol. Yeah, I said that when I was in a

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Speaker 5: good mood. I didn't know about the identity.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I gives you just a small detail you might want

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Speaker 3: to know. Don't know what she says.

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Speaker 1: She is resourceful, so it could be good to be

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Speaker 1: on her side and be aligned with her in that way.

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Speaker 1: But Gina did right back, and she said, considering my

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Speaker 1: credit score at this point and probably yours, it would

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Speaker 1: be a bad financial decision to consider merging our lives.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, but she says, but it's a sweet thought.

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Speaker 1: I'm just happy I'm sober and clean, and I hope

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Speaker 1: you're happy too. Maybe down the line we can be

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Speaker 1: friends again, if you can forgive me. Oh that's a

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Speaker 1: good question, Vincent.

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Speaker 3: That's a big statement. She just made.

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Speaker 2: Forgive her or press charges too late for that? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think I really need to process all this.

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Speaker 4: But you know, people are different when they're under, you know,

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Speaker 4: an addiction. I kind of lean towards forgiveness on this one,

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Speaker 4: if you can get there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, at least she didn't blame you for getting her

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Speaker 1: spent on the roof together. She could have pinned the

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Speaker 1: whole thing on the Oh yeah, smoke some crap. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a positive.

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Speaker 3: Broking Jeffrey in the morning.

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Speaker 1: That closure call happened about four months ago.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm still like shaken now.

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Speaker 1: Vince is back on the phone to give us an update,

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Speaker 1: and Vince, everybody here is wondering. I'm assuming that we're

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Speaker 1: doing this call because you actually met up with Gina

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Speaker 1: again I did.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, is still Vince?

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Speaker 3: What was going through your head?

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Speaker 5: Well? We reconnected, you know, we started chatting and we

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Speaker 5: just decided to meet up and grab some drinks at

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Speaker 4: So you were angry at all? Like I was just

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Speaker 4: wondering if after you processed.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I was angry. Okay, I was, but we did

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Speaker 5: talk and I thought, well, okay, you know, let me

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Speaker 5: meet up and see what happens. Okay, So we met

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Speaker 5: up at a bar, and she felt horrible for what

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Speaker 5: she did. She was very apologetic. She offered to pay

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Speaker 5: for the entire night. You know, we had food and

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Speaker 5: drinks and with credit card. Interesting, you would ask, we're

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Speaker 5: telling stories for a few hours. It was actually really

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Speaker 5: nice and we were definitely connecting. And then she went

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Speaker 5: to close out her tab and the bartender says, what's

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Speaker 5: the name on the card? And the name was and

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Speaker 5: san or so I don't even know what the name was,

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Speaker 5: and something definitely wasn't Gina.

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Speaker 3: Had like mended her old ways.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, doesn't appear so and she just kind of smirked

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Speaker 1: So, where are you guys gonna go next? Then get

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Speaker 1: a vacation in there nowhere.

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Speaker 5: We have not talked since you don't want to get

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Speaker 5: caught up in the He.

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Speaker 3: Got home and immediately checked his wallet to make.

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Speaker 2: Sure, because back he's like, where's my home?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Thanks for keeping us posted on your life, Vin, So

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Speaker 1: make sure you stay in touch, all right, Good luck

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Speaker 1: out there. Sure thing

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Speaker 3: Broken Jeffrey in the morning,