WEBVTT - The Plot to Undo Mary Eleanor Bowes, Part 2

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Noble Blood, a production of iHeartRadio and Grim

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<v Speaker 1>and Mild from Aaron Manky. Listener discretion advised. This is

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<v Speaker 1>part two of our two part series on Mary Eleanor

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<v Speaker 1>Bow's so if you haven't listened to part one you

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<v Speaker 1>should probably start there. And just a brief content warning,

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<v Speaker 1>this episode contains descriptions of spousal abuse. In early February

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen eighty five, a scandal swept the coffeehouses of upper

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<v Speaker 1>crust Georgian London. Mary Eleanor Bows, one of the richest

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<v Speaker 1>women in Britain, had disappeared. She had always been a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit eccentric, but in the years after marrying Irish

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<v Speaker 1>soldier Andrew Robinson Stoney, things had gotten well stranger. Bows

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<v Speaker 1>was known for being well spoken, elegant and poised, but

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<v Speaker 1>recently she had been appearing at dinners in tattered clothes

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<v Speaker 1>with cuts and bruises, sometimes barely saying a word, and

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<v Speaker 1>then one day she was gone. The most plausible hypothesis

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<v Speaker 1>was that she had eloped with some other man, but

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<v Speaker 1>even that was far fetched. No one had even heard

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<v Speaker 1>a rumor about another swain or suitor. The truth was

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<v Speaker 1>something no one could have guessed Mary Eleanor Bow's wealthy

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<v Speaker 1>heiress was hiding out using a fake name with no money,

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<v Speaker 1>in a small apartment off an alleyway. At the time

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<v Speaker 1>of her disappearance, Mary Eleanor Bows had been married to

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Robinson Stoney for eight years. As she discovered soon

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<v Speaker 1>after their shotgun wedding, he had wooed her under false

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<v Speaker 1>pretenses orchis an elaborate scheme including a fake psychic reading

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<v Speaker 1>and a fake duel to marry her and arrest control

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<v Speaker 1>of her vast coal fortune. Stony then made Mary Eleanor's

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<v Speaker 1>life a living hell, starving her, isolating her, and beating her,

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<v Speaker 1>which brings us to her disappearance in early seventeen eighty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Fearing for her life, Mary Eleanor escaped with the help

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<v Speaker 1>of a few of her maids. She fled to a

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<v Speaker 1>little apartment off an alleyway in Holborn, with no possessions,

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<v Speaker 1>no money, and using a false name. Soon the public

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<v Speaker 1>would learn what had happened. As Mary Eleanor made initial

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<v Speaker 1>steps to secure her independence, she set in motion three

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<v Speaker 1>separate legal proceedings to try to get her freedom. The

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<v Speaker 1>first was to protect her life, getting physical protection from Stony.

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<v Speaker 1>The second motion was to protect her fortune, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>ensure a prenup that she had managed to secretly smuggle

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<v Speaker 1>away from under Stoney's nose would be honored. But it

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<v Speaker 1>would be the third motion that would prove most difficult

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<v Speaker 1>of all. Mary Eleanor Bowes was seeking a divorce from Stony,

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<v Speaker 1>the man she accused of quote beating, scratching, biting, pinching, whipping, kicking, imprisoning, insulting, provoking, tormenting, mortifying, degrading, tyrannizing, cajoling, deceiving, lying, starving, forcing, compelling,

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<v Speaker 1>and ringing of the heart. Under British law, that was

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<v Speaker 1>technically grounds for divorce, but in practice divorces were expensive

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<v Speaker 1>and extremely uncommon. Most of the plaintiffs in divorce cases

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<v Speaker 1>were men. Women rarely filed for divorce and rarely won.

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Eleanor must have been daunted by the legal battles

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<v Speaker 1>She knew she faced ahead, but achieving her freedom would

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<v Speaker 1>turn out to be more lengthy, expensive, and emotionally taxing

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<v Speaker 1>than she could have ever imagined, and it would put

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<v Speaker 1>her fortune, her reputation, and her life at risk. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Danish Schwartz, and this is noble blood. Back at Gibbside Castle,

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<v Speaker 1>Stony was already enraged at Mary Eleanor's disappearance, so we

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<v Speaker 1>can only imagine his anger when he heard of the

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<v Speaker 1>three motions she was filing. He set his sights on

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<v Speaker 1>tracking his wife down, bribing servants to find and reveal

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<v Speaker 1>her address, and even paying off shop owners to keep

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<v Speaker 1>them from giving her food, hoping that if she's starved,

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<v Speaker 1>she might be more likely to return to him and

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<v Speaker 1>reconsider divorce. Stony also began in timid and paying off witnesses,

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<v Speaker 1>threatening to fire maids and valets to prevent them from

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<v Speaker 1>testifying against him. While he was stalking Mary Eleanor and

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<v Speaker 1>bullying potential witnesses in private. He took great pains to

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<v Speaker 1>appear in public as a long suffering, compassionate husband whose

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<v Speaker 1>mercurial wife had suddenly up and left, deserting him and

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<v Speaker 1>two young children. This made it all the harder for

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Eleanor, who was trying to find support for her

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<v Speaker 1>legal cases while still in hiding. Unlike Stony, who had

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<v Speaker 1>unfettered access to her family's estate, Mary Eleanor had no money.

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<v Speaker 1>She reached out to her own family for financial, legal,

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<v Speaker 1>or even emotional support. But they politely declined they saw

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<v Speaker 1>her divorce as an embarrassment. Surprisingly, it was actually Stoney's

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<v Speaker 1>family who was far more sympathetic to Mary Eleanor's plight.

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<v Speaker 1>Stoney's sister, who was grieving the death of her first child,

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<v Speaker 1>wrote a letter to Mary Eleanor saying, quote what a

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<v Speaker 1>blessing it would be if my brother had been taken

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<v Speaker 1>off at that age, while Stoney's father told Mary Eleanor

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<v Speaker 1>that Stoney was quote the most wretched man I ever knew,

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<v Speaker 1>But family loyalty prevented them from publicly supporting Mary Eleanor.

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<v Speaker 1>They refused to appear in court. While the Georgian elite

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<v Speaker 1>was more than willing to cast Mary Eleanor aside, as

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<v Speaker 1>scholar Wendy Moore put it, quote, those who had the

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<v Speaker 1>most to lose showed her the greatest loyalty. Mary Eleanor's

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<v Speaker 1>maid supported her without wages and were willing to appear

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<v Speaker 1>in court to speak about Stoney's abuse, putting their careers

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<v Speaker 1>and even their lives at risk. When shopkeepers were forbidden

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<v Speaker 1>from providing Mary Eleanor with food, gardeners sent her fruit

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<v Speaker 1>and vegetables to eat. Mary Eleanor's lawyers worked on her

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<v Speaker 1>case pro bono, assuming they would be paid if she won.

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<v Speaker 1>Needing a panoply of witnesses to provide proof of Stoney's mistreatment,

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Eleanor spent her days writing and responding to letters

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<v Speaker 1>trying to drum up support for her case. As her

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<v Speaker 1>maid and close confidant, Mary Morgan, ran the letters to

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<v Speaker 1>the post office. Being granted a divorce by a British

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<v Speaker 1>court required a high burden of proof. A separation would

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<v Speaker 1>only be granted if the offending party perpetuated life threatening,

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<v Speaker 1>unprovoked acts of violence and cheated habitually. Mary Eleanor had

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<v Speaker 1>a few witnesses testifying to Stoney's violence, but she needed

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<v Speaker 1>to prove his adultery to shore her case. Dorothy Stevens,

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<v Speaker 1>a wet nurse in the Beau's household, not only witnessed

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<v Speaker 1>Stoney's abuse but suffered it herself. Stoney had raped her

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<v Speaker 1>and gotten her pregnant before depositing her in a brothel

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<v Speaker 1>and leaving her and her newborn child destitute. When Mary

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<v Speaker 1>Eleanor tried to get in contact with sex workers that

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<v Speaker 1>lived with Dorothy, no one had seen any sign of her.

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<v Speaker 1>Four weeks it wasn't until Dorothy's parents reached out to

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Eleanor in April seventeen eighty five that Mary Eleanor

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<v Speaker 1>figured out what had happened. In order to prevent Dorothy

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<v Speaker 1>from testifying against him, Stoney had kidnapped her and their

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<v Speaker 1>three month old daughter and imprisoned them in a house

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<v Speaker 1>in Kensington. Mary Eleanor and Dorothy's parents obtained a writ

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<v Speaker 1>of habeas corpus to free her from Stoney's grasp. Dorothy

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<v Speaker 1>appeared in court two weeks later, calling Stoney quote a

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<v Speaker 1>man of very cruel, savage and abandoned disposition. Dorothy's testimony

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<v Speaker 1>opened the floodgates. From then, many of Stoney's tenants and

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<v Speaker 1>staff came forward with their own first hand experiences of

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<v Speaker 1>his violence toward his wife. Perhaps sensing that the tide

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<v Speaker 1>was turning against him, Andrew Stoney proposed an arbitration to

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<v Speaker 1>divide up the estate between him and Mary Eleanor in

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<v Speaker 1>exchange for Mary Eleanor suspending her divorce case. She agreed,

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<v Speaker 1>but we should know by now that peace seeking was

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<v Speaker 1>not in Stoney's nature. What would have normally been a

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<v Speaker 1>conciliatory move masked Stoney's plan to crush Mary Eleanor into submission,

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<v Speaker 1>Stoney used the guise of reconciliation to try and track

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Eleanor down. He told his staff, who he knew

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<v Speaker 1>were providing Mary Eleanor with provisions and support, that they

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<v Speaker 1>had reconciled and that there was no more need to

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<v Speaker 1>hide her location. Finally, Stoney managed to find his wife

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<v Speaker 1>by seizing a weekly delivery of garden produce from one

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<v Speaker 1>of the groundskeepers, which contained her address. But Mary Eleanor

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<v Speaker 1>was tipped off to Stoney's attempt to find her, and

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<v Speaker 1>she managed to flee her apartment with no time to spare.

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<v Speaker 1>She rejected Stoney's settlement and pressed forward with her trials.

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<v Speaker 1>Back when Stoney had been trying to woo Mary Eleanor,

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<v Speaker 1>he had staged a duel. Now in an effort to

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<v Speaker 1>push back their divorce, he told the press that he

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<v Speaker 1>had shot himself. He hadn't, but he thought the confusion

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<v Speaker 1>might delay things. But on May sixth, seventeen eighty six,

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<v Speaker 1>the divorce suit finally came up for hearing. According to

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<v Speaker 1>the court conventions at the time, lawyers had been hearing

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<v Speaker 1>depositions from witnesses on both sides for over a year,

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<v Speaker 1>cross examining them in private. The court convened just so

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<v Speaker 1>that the judge could make his decision. Astonishingly, he sided

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<v Speaker 1>with Mary Eleanor. The judge mandated that the couple be

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<v Speaker 1>divorced from bed bored and mutual cohabitation, and allotted Mary

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<v Speaker 1>Eleanor three hundred pounds a year in alimony on the

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<v Speaker 1>grounds of both adultery and cruelty. Mary Eleanor must have

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<v Speaker 1>been relieved to see her hard work pay off. She

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<v Speaker 1>had only sex workers and servants on her side, no

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<v Speaker 1>money to pay her lawyers, and struggled against a patriarchal

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<v Speaker 1>society that demonized divorce. But after an unless win, Mary

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<v Speaker 1>Eleanor perhaps could exhale. But this was only the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of the legal battle ahead. Mary Eleanor's prenuptial agreement was

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<v Speaker 1>still up for debate, which would either give her access

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<v Speaker 1>to the fortune she had lost or condemn her to

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<v Speaker 1>a life of poverty. Moreover, Andrew Stony, a man who

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<v Speaker 1>had faked his own death two weeks earlier to avoid

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<v Speaker 1>appearing in court, was not going to let go so easily.

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<v Speaker 1>He immediately appealed the divorce decision, sending the couple back

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<v Speaker 1>to court once again, and this time he was going

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<v Speaker 1>to play dirty to win. Even with another divorce trial

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<v Speaker 1>on the horizon and her prenup still up for debate,

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Eleanor was free, at least for a moment. At

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<v Speaker 1>social events, she appeared happy and relf. She visited friends

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<v Speaker 1>in the countryside and played quadrille at opulent parties awaiting

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<v Speaker 1>the new legal term in the fall. But when the

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<v Speaker 1>conversation veered toward her ex husband, Mary Eleanor's fear and

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<v Speaker 1>anxiety emerged. She spoke to friends about strange men pretending

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<v Speaker 1>to be law officers appearing at her doorstep, of deranged

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<v Speaker 1>women trying to break into her house, of carriages following

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<v Speaker 1>her down city streets, her male getting intercepted. Polite society

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<v Speaker 1>dismissed her concerns, calling her paranoid. Behind her back, even

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Eleanor was questioning her own sanity. One night in

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<v Speaker 1>October seventeen eighty six, one of her maids told her

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<v Speaker 1>that a Hackney carriage had been following their coach. The

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<v Speaker 1>maid could have sworn that she saw Stony leaning out

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<v Speaker 1>of the window of the carriage, but it turned doubt

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<v Speaker 1>that she was mistaken. He had been convalescing in bed

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<v Speaker 1>after falling off his horse a few days prior. Even so,

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<v Speaker 1>Mary barred any strangers from entering her house, and she

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<v Speaker 1>vowed to stay inside until her divorce appeal was over.

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<v Speaker 1>She hired a bodyguard to keep an eye out for

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<v Speaker 1>any suspicious carriages or onlookers lingering outside her home. After

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<v Speaker 1>a few days, on November tenth, seventeen eighty six, Mary

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<v Speaker 1>Eleanor felt sick of being cooped up and decided to

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<v Speaker 1>visit a friend on Oxford Street, not far from the

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<v Speaker 1>house on Bloomsbury Square where she was staying. Her bodyguard

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<v Speaker 1>told her that she had nothing to worry about, but

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Eleanor had trouble relaxing. She had barely sat down

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<v Speaker 1>for tea when she heard some commotion outside, and, fearing

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<v Speaker 1>the worst, she locked herself in a garret room before

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<v Speaker 1>her bodyguard appeared and told her it was safe to leave.

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<v Speaker 1>As Mary Eleanor walked out the door onto Oxford Street,

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<v Speaker 1>she was greeted with a crowd of armed men pointing

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<v Speaker 1>their pistols right at her. Her bodyguard told her that

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<v Speaker 1>she was being arrested, and he led her into her

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<v Speaker 1>carriage at gunpoint. Mary Eleanor screamed for help, begging to

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<v Speaker 1>be let go, but the gathering crowd simply watched as

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<v Speaker 1>the carriage sped away. She wasn't being arrested. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a kidnapping. On the carriage ride. Mary Elinor must have

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<v Speaker 1>wondered whether this was Stoney's doing or whether she just

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<v Speaker 1>happened to be the unlucky victim of an extortion or crime.

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<v Speaker 1>But as the carriage arrived at the Red Lion Tavern,

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<v Speaker 1>she had her answer. Stoney was waiting for her outside

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<v Speaker 1>the front door. It turned out that all of Mary

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<v Speaker 1>Eleanor's paranoia was warranted. Stoney had been planning this kidnap

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<v Speaker 1>for almost a month. Fearing that he would lose his

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<v Speaker 1>divorce appeal, Stoney came up with yet another scheme. If

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<v Speaker 1>he couldn't threaten Mary Eleanor into dropping the suit, he

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<v Speaker 1>would force her to live with him, which would undermine

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<v Speaker 1>her case, because the thinking went, why would he file

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<v Speaker 1>a divorce against someone you were quote unquote willingly living with.

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<v Speaker 1>He had bribed the man that became Mary Eleanor's bodyguard

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<v Speaker 1>to insinuate himself into her life when she hired him.

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<v Speaker 1>He reported to Stoney daily update about what she was

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<v Speaker 1>up to. The bodyguard told Stony that Mary Eleanor planned

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<v Speaker 1>to leave the house on November tenth, and so Stoney

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<v Speaker 1>set the last steps of his plan into motion. He

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<v Speaker 1>gathered together a group of cronies with guns to surround

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<v Speaker 1>her and force her into a carriage. Immediately upon returning

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<v Speaker 1>to Gibside Castle, Stoney and Mary Eleanor sat beside each

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<v Speaker 1>other at the long dinner table in the dining room.

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<v Speaker 1>He held a pistol to her breast, threatening to shoot

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<v Speaker 1>her if she didn't drop the lawsuit. She refused. He

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<v Speaker 1>told her to pray, and she did, saying I recommend

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<v Speaker 1>my spirit to God and my friend to his protection.

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<v Speaker 1>Fire and Stony did, but when he pulled the trigger,

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<v Speaker 1>the gunpowder failed to ignite. Enraged, he punched her twice

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<v Speaker 1>and asked her if that made her change her mind.

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<v Speaker 1>She said, you may shoot me or beat me to

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<v Speaker 1>a mummy. My person is in your power, but my

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<v Speaker 1>mind is beyond your reach. Perhaps a little in awe

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<v Speaker 1>of her determination, he said, by God, you are a

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful woman. He had two of his cronies drag her

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<v Speaker 1>up to their bedroom and he ordered her to sleep

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<v Speaker 1>with him, knowing that if they had sex, he could

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<v Speaker 1>claim that she wanted to remain his wife, which would

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<v Speaker 1>render the divorce suit invalid. But Mary refused to consent,

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<v Speaker 1>saying that she would accuse him of rape if he

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<v Speaker 1>laid a hand on her. Stoney relented, letting her sleep alone.

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<v Speaker 1>The next day, he fled the castle and went into hiding,

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<v Speaker 1>taking Mary Eleanor with him. Mary Eleanor's supporters produced a

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<v Speaker 1>writ of habeas corpus ordering Stony to bring Mary Eleanor back,

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<v Speaker 1>but that wouldn't be enough without a nationwide police force

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<v Speaker 1>to help her. Supporters hired a court tipstaff, which is

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<v Speaker 1>basically an armed bailiff, to track her down. Stoney and

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Eleanor moved throughout the English countryside, where he told

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<v Speaker 1>villagers that he was a doctor and she was his

0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:07.840
<v Speaker 1>delusional patient, which meant that the villagers could ignore her

0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:11.879
<v Speaker 1>cries for help. In the days after her kidnapping, the

0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:18.199
<v Speaker 1>astonishing story spread throughout England as multiple newspapers reproduced the

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<v Speaker 1>sordid details. A plowman who had heard about the case

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<v Speaker 1>spotted a mysterious couple riding in Tunetia and ambushed them

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<v Speaker 1>with that Mary Eleanor hopped on the generous plowman's horse

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<v Speaker 1>and they rode away back to London. Mary Eleanor appeared

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<v Speaker 1>in court a few days later, on November twenty third,

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<v Speaker 1>to call for Stoney's arrest. She was clearly disheveled, covered

0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:50.240
<v Speaker 1>with bruises and welts, and was in so much pain

0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:54.240
<v Speaker 1>she could barely walk as she spoke of her kidnapping

0:19:54.359 --> 0:19:59.000
<v Speaker 1>and mistreatment. The journalists and spectators in the crowd were

0:19:59.119 --> 0:20:04.040
<v Speaker 1>shocked and moved. One wrote, quote, Lady Strathmore, from the

0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:09.600
<v Speaker 1>extreme ill treatment she has perceived since forced from the metropolis,

0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:13.199
<v Speaker 1>is become an object of the most extreme pity and

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<v Speaker 1>compassion to every beholder. Stoney tried to make a play

0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:22.800
<v Speaker 1>for the audience's sympathy using his favorite trick, faking his

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<v Speaker 1>own death. He gave himself an emetic and made a

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<v Speaker 1>show out of vomiting on the street, bribing a doctor

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<v Speaker 1>to tell the court that he was too sick to

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<v Speaker 1>come in, But the judge dismissed his claims, and the

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<v Speaker 1>audience booed and heckled him as he limped into the courtroom.

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<v Speaker 1>The judge ordered Stony to jail until the divorce case

0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:48.680
<v Speaker 1>was heard setting his bail at twenty thousand pounds, which

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<v Speaker 1>was likely the largest bail figure to date in a

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<v Speaker 1>case of domestic abuse. According to Wendy Moore, Stoney's lawyers

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<v Speaker 1>begged the judge to let him free, as a stint

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<v Speaker 1>in jail might make his injuries and illness worse. The

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<v Speaker 1>crowd laughed, tipstaffs carried Stoney out of court, and a

0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:13.720
<v Speaker 1>huge mob of onlookers crowded him, hurling insults and jeers.

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<v Speaker 1>Even on the way to jail. Stoney still had tricks

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<v Speaker 1>up his sleeve. The incredible story of Mary Eleanor's kidnapping

0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:26.679
<v Speaker 1>had made the trial a media circus, with onlookers and

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<v Speaker 1>journalists filling the courtroom. Stoney planned to exploit the gossip

0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:36.879
<v Speaker 1>hungry press to turn the tide against Mary Eleanor and

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps rest control over her and her fortune once and

0:21:42.080 --> 0:21:51.840
<v Speaker 1>for all. Stoney had already made modest attempts to undermine

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Eleanor's reputation in the press even before his arrest.

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<v Speaker 1>Less than a month after Mary Eleanor won her first

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<v Speaker 1>divorced tree, while he commissioned a pornographic cartoon of her,

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<v Speaker 1>which appeared in the window of a print shop. The

0:22:07.680 --> 0:22:11.800
<v Speaker 1>caption proclaimed that Mary Eleanor was going to give her

0:22:11.840 --> 0:22:16.080
<v Speaker 1>stepson a taste of her dessert after dinner. A scene

0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:19.960
<v Speaker 1>performed every day near Grosvenor Square to the annoyance of

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<v Speaker 1>the neighborhood, and she was pictured drunk and bearing her

0:22:24.480 --> 0:22:29.840
<v Speaker 1>breasts as she beat an afraid looking boy. Other cartoons

0:22:29.880 --> 0:22:35.200
<v Speaker 1>would follow. A particularly salacious one was her breastfeeding her

0:22:35.280 --> 0:22:39.560
<v Speaker 1>cats as her son cried, I wish I was a cat.

0:22:39.800 --> 0:22:44.600
<v Speaker 1>My mama would love me. Then, now, with Stony's reputation

0:22:44.840 --> 0:22:48.160
<v Speaker 1>in shambles, he had to bring out the big guns.

0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:52.600
<v Speaker 1>One off cartoons in random print shops weren't going to

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<v Speaker 1>cut it. It helped that he had purchased an interest

0:22:56.520 --> 0:22:59.640
<v Speaker 1>in The Times, which was more than willing to give

0:22:59.640 --> 0:23:03.280
<v Speaker 1>air time to his side of the story. From his

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<v Speaker 1>prison cell, Stoney promised the press that Mary Eleanor's sympathetic

0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:12.200
<v Speaker 1>story was not what it seemed, and that he would

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<v Speaker 1>reveal her equally scandalous misdeeds in court. On January twentieth,

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen eighty seven, when Mary Eleanor's second divorce hearing began,

0:23:22.680 --> 0:23:26.879
<v Speaker 1>onlookers and reporters filed into the court room Stoney began

0:23:27.040 --> 0:23:31.480
<v Speaker 1>the hearing with a bombshell allegation that Mary Eleanor had

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<v Speaker 1>been brazenly and repeatedly cheating on him with any male

0:23:36.160 --> 0:23:39.760
<v Speaker 1>acquaintance that would give her the time of day. While

0:23:39.800 --> 0:23:43.439
<v Speaker 1>most of these made up encounters were dismissed by the court,

0:23:43.960 --> 0:23:49.040
<v Speaker 1>one made a particular splash. Stony accused Mary Eleanor of

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<v Speaker 1>an affair with George Walker, the executor of her prenup.

0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Stony was probably trying to kill two birds with one

0:23:57.080 --> 0:24:02.320
<v Speaker 1>stone here, both smearing Mary Eleanor's image and introducing evidence

0:24:02.359 --> 0:24:05.880
<v Speaker 1>that could get the prenup annulled. The problem was there

0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:10.960
<v Speaker 1>was no evidence for this alleged affair. Later, Walker told

0:24:11.000 --> 0:24:14.320
<v Speaker 1>the press that Stoney had approached him with a bribe

0:24:14.720 --> 0:24:19.240
<v Speaker 1>to lie on the stand, but Walker responded, I despised

0:24:19.280 --> 0:24:24.280
<v Speaker 1>his offers, as I despised the man, even though his

0:24:24.520 --> 0:24:30.359
<v Speaker 1>claims she committed adultery strained credulity. Stoney's lawyers brought out

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<v Speaker 1>a document that would shock the court and the public alike.

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<v Speaker 1>During their marriage, Stoney had forced Mary Eleanor to write

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<v Speaker 1>a list of her sins to prove that she deserved

0:24:44.480 --> 0:24:49.840
<v Speaker 1>his abuse. Stoney's lawyers brought this one hundred page document

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<v Speaker 1>to court titled The Confessions of the Countess of Strathmore.

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<v Speaker 1>In the document, Mary Eleanor revealed various flirtations, the affe

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<v Speaker 1>she had had well married to her first husband, multiple abortions,

0:25:05.640 --> 0:25:09.000
<v Speaker 1>and her pregnancy out of wedlock, and all of it

0:25:09.160 --> 0:25:14.359
<v Speaker 1>was unmistakably in her handwriting. At first, it seemed like

0:25:14.640 --> 0:25:19.080
<v Speaker 1>Stoney might have made a mistake in introducing the document

0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:23.360
<v Speaker 1>to the court. Mary's lawyer dismissed it since it had

0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:28.240
<v Speaker 1>clearly been written at Stoney's insistence. Even if the scandals

0:25:28.280 --> 0:25:32.120
<v Speaker 1>it contained were true. The lawyer called it a pocket

0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:36.320
<v Speaker 1>pistol meant to destroy her ladyship's fame and to harden

0:25:36.359 --> 0:25:40.320
<v Speaker 1>and steel the hearts of everyone against her. The judge agreed.

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<v Speaker 1>The courtroom clerk read only a few pages before the

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<v Speaker 1>judge told him that this document was irrelevant to the

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<v Speaker 1>case at hand and should be thrown out of court.

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<v Speaker 1>They were right. Even if Stony had not forced Mary

0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:57.600
<v Speaker 1>Eleanor to create the document, and even if we agreed

0:25:57.640 --> 0:26:01.360
<v Speaker 1>that having an abortion or cheating on your cold, indifferent

0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:07.199
<v Speaker 1>first husband were unpardonable sins, Mary Eleanor's misdeeds would have

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<v Speaker 1>no bearing on whether or not Stoney had abused her.

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<v Speaker 1>The judge granted Mary a divorce yet again on May seventh,

0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:25.280
<v Speaker 1>seventeen eighty seven, but the court of public opinion began

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<v Speaker 1>to see things differently the times which Stony had a

0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:33.760
<v Speaker 1>staken wrote quote, the cause of her ladyship is not

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<v Speaker 1>so immaculate as the world at large have been taught

0:26:37.960 --> 0:26:42.040
<v Speaker 1>to believe. Even Stoney's father, who had called his son

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<v Speaker 1>quote the most wretched man he knew, was now saying

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<v Speaker 1>that quote, there has certainly been many faults on both sides,

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<v Speaker 1>and that the divorce would set quote a dangerous precedent.

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<v Speaker 1>That said, he didn't totally take the side of his

0:26:59.040 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 1>son when when he died the following month, he left

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:07.080
<v Speaker 1>Stoney only two pounds as an inheritance. Even though Mary

0:27:07.119 --> 0:27:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Eleanor's quote confessions were thrown out of court, Stoney's more

0:27:11.960 --> 0:27:17.199
<v Speaker 1>sympathetic framing in the press did have legal implications. His

0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:21.560
<v Speaker 1>jail time was reduced from fourteen years to two, and,

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<v Speaker 1>feeling optimistic about the turning tide of public opinion, he

0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:31.359
<v Speaker 1>appealed the divorce decision yet again at the High Court

0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:34.560
<v Speaker 1>of Delegates, which is the highest court of appeals the

0:27:34.560 --> 0:27:39.639
<v Speaker 1>case could go. Mary Eleanor struck back with another lawsuit,

0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:44.480
<v Speaker 1>charging Stoney with quote five counts of conspiracy that accused

0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:48.000
<v Speaker 1>him of imprisoning Mary in order to compel her to

0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:52.639
<v Speaker 1>drop her divorce suit, which brought the total lawsuits in

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:57.760
<v Speaker 1>process to three, the prenup lawsuit, a divorce and a

0:27:57.800 --> 0:28:01.679
<v Speaker 1>criminal trial. The criminals suit was heard first, and the

0:28:01.760 --> 0:28:05.960
<v Speaker 1>trial more closely resembled what we picture in a modern courtroom,

0:28:06.359 --> 0:28:09.879
<v Speaker 1>with a jury, a judge, and two lawyers cross examining

0:28:09.920 --> 0:28:15.479
<v Speaker 1>witnesses and giving impassioned arguments. Mary Eleanor's lawyer spoke in

0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:18.560
<v Speaker 1>front of the crowd as he described her kidnapping and

0:28:18.720 --> 0:28:24.520
<v Speaker 1>imprisonment in lurid detail. While kidnapping one's wife at gunpoint

0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:29.960
<v Speaker 1>in broad daylight was considered uncouth, it wasn't technically illegal

0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:33.439
<v Speaker 1>at the time. A husband had the legal right to

0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:38.920
<v Speaker 1>confine and reprimand an unruly wife, but Mary Eleanor's lawyer

0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:43.480
<v Speaker 1>pushed against the legal limits of the time. He described

0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 1>how Stony forced himself on Mary Eleanor as she fought

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:52.120
<v Speaker 1>him off, telling the likely skeptical all male jury that

0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:55.440
<v Speaker 1>a husband is liable to be tried for a rape,

0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:59.640
<v Speaker 1>even on his own wife, even though marital rape would

0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:03.960
<v Speaker 1>not considered a crime for another two hundred years. The

0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:08.160
<v Speaker 1>strategy worked. It took only a few minutes for the

0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:13.240
<v Speaker 1>jury to unanimously declare Stony guilty, and the judge sentenced

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:17.040
<v Speaker 1>him to three years in prison. On June twenty sixth,

0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:22.760
<v Speaker 1>seventeen eighty seven. The next trial was for reinstating Mary

0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:27.200
<v Speaker 1>Eleanor's pre nup. This case, hinging on the validity of

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:31.680
<v Speaker 1>a decade's old document might seem tangential, but this was

0:29:31.840 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 1>as important as the divorce trial itself, because even if

0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Mary Eleanor was granted her divorce, she would not be

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:43.960
<v Speaker 1>entitled to any financial remittance outside of the poulsterry monthly

0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 1>alimony payments. Meanwhile, Stoney was flush with money that, lest

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:55.000
<v Speaker 1>we forget, was originally Mary Eleanor's inheritance. While Mary Eleanor

0:29:55.080 --> 0:29:58.400
<v Speaker 1>had no money to speak of, relying on her friend's charity,

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:03.280
<v Speaker 1>Stoney was i enjoying a rich man's life on her dime,

0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:08.520
<v Speaker 1>even while ostensibly in prison. He lived in a lavish

0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:12.400
<v Speaker 1>apartment in the Marshall, where he threw parties, eight decade

0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:16.600
<v Speaker 1>in food and had affairs with mistresses, in addition to

0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 1>hiring various cronies to abduct friends and servants of Mary Eleanor's.

0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:27.760
<v Speaker 1>Mary Eleanor wrote quote, I believe that, instead of being tamed,

0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:31.960
<v Speaker 1>Stoney will grow more and more desperate. I am therefore

0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:37.360
<v Speaker 1>doubly cautious. On May nineteenth, seventeen eighty eight, the jury

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:42.000
<v Speaker 1>convened for the prenup trial in Westminster Hall. The trial

0:30:42.080 --> 0:30:47.080
<v Speaker 1>began with another bombshell, giving spectators and journalists even more

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 1>fodder for gossip. Mary Eleanor's council revealed that Stoney had

0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:57.560
<v Speaker 1>courted her under false pretenses, faking the duel that duped

0:30:57.560 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 1>her into an abusive marriage, with witnesses testifying to his

0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:07.240
<v Speaker 1>faked battle scars. Stoney's lawyers didn't even try to prove

0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:11.360
<v Speaker 1>that the duel was real. Instead, he essentially shrugged and

0:31:11.520 --> 0:31:16.000
<v Speaker 1>said quote strategem was fair in love as well as

0:31:16.040 --> 0:31:19.560
<v Speaker 1>in war. He tried his best to appeal to the

0:31:19.640 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 1>patriarchal sensibilities of the all male jury, maintaining that Mary

0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:30.360
<v Speaker 1>Eleanor's prenup quote defrauded Stony of that absolute power which

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:34.080
<v Speaker 1>the law gives the husband over the personal estate of

0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:39.000
<v Speaker 1>his wife. But After hearing the details of Stoney's scheme,

0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:43.200
<v Speaker 1>it was hard to have any sympathy for him. The

0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 1>Lord Chief Justice said, quote, it was a marriage brought

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:51.240
<v Speaker 1>about by a fraud, a fraud of such a kind that,

0:31:51.400 --> 0:31:54.760
<v Speaker 1>had it been practiced to obtain a hundred pounds from

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Lady Strathmore, mister Bows must have answered for it Criminally.

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Eleanor won the suit and her vast estate was

0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:09.000
<v Speaker 1>finally hers once more. When the decision was announced, the

0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:15.400
<v Speaker 1>crowd erupted into cheers. Only one lawsuit remained, the final

0:32:15.640 --> 0:32:21.040
<v Speaker 1>divorce appeal, the last hindrance to Mary Eleanor's independence. The

0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:27.080
<v Speaker 1>court convened on February thirteenth, seventeen eighty nine, and after

0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:31.920
<v Speaker 1>so many years of retrying the same case and hearing

0:32:32.040 --> 0:32:37.360
<v Speaker 1>constant updates in the press, spectators, jurors, journalists, and judges

0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:41.920
<v Speaker 1>alike were more than familiar with the story. A parade

0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:46.680
<v Speaker 1>of servants and sex workers testified to Stoney's abuse, while

0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Stoney tried again to undermine Mary Eleanor's character. After reconvening

0:32:53.520 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 1>on March second, the six judges took just thirty minutes

0:32:57.920 --> 0:33:02.800
<v Speaker 1>to make their decision, and through Robinson, Stoney and Mary

0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Eleanor bows were officially divorced with no possibility of appeal.

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:15.840
<v Speaker 1>It would take hundreds of years for the legal freedoms

0:33:16.000 --> 0:33:20.080
<v Speaker 1>Mary Eleanor achieved to be codified into law in the UK.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't until eighteen seventy, a century later, that women

0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:29.000
<v Speaker 1>were able to retain control over their estates after marriage

0:33:29.080 --> 0:33:33.080
<v Speaker 1>without a prenup. In the United States, starting in eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>thirty nine, women gained the right to have their own property,

0:33:37.600 --> 0:33:42.400
<v Speaker 1>to inherit independently of their husbands, to work for a salary,

0:33:43.000 --> 0:33:48.840
<v Speaker 1>right wills, and file lawsuits. Except for divorces. Women in

0:33:48.840 --> 0:33:51.680
<v Speaker 1>the United States would not be able to file for

0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:56.720
<v Speaker 1>divorce until nineteen thirty five, and even then they had

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<v Speaker 1>to prove adultery, cruelty, or desertion, nearly the same standards

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<v Speaker 1>as in Mary Eleanor's time. In England, women with Mary

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<v Speaker 1>Eleanor's means and tenacity could file for divorce, but it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't until nineteen twenty three that the burden of proof

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<v Speaker 1>was lowered. The relentless physical abuse Mary Eleanor suffered would

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<v Speaker 1>not be illegal in the United States until nineteen twenty

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<v Speaker 1>and marital rape, which Mary Eleanor's lawyer, tentatively raised in

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<v Speaker 1>court in seventeen eighty seven, would not be a crime

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<v Speaker 1>until nineteen ninety one in the UK and nineteen ninety

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<v Speaker 1>three in the US. After her divorce trial, Mary Eleanor

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<v Speaker 1>shied away from the public eye and resigned herself to

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<v Speaker 1>a quiet life. She prioritized rebuilding her relationships with her children,

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<v Speaker 1>who she had been barred from seeing throughout her marriage.

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<v Speaker 1>She also lavished attention on her he many pets. She

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<v Speaker 1>had many cats and dogs, a donkey, a parrot, and

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<v Speaker 1>a robin named Bob. She insisted that each of her

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<v Speaker 1>dogs have a bed of its own and a hot

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<v Speaker 1>meal every day. Although Mary Eleanor set her literary and

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<v Speaker 1>botanical ambitions aside, she wrote a poem to Stony in prison, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>he was the very enemy of mankind, deceitful to his friends,

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<v Speaker 1>ungrateful to his benefactors, cringing to his superiors, and tyrannical

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<v Speaker 1>to his dependence. She died at age forty six. In

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<v Speaker 1>her will, she made two requests for her burial. The

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<v Speaker 1>first was that she wanted to be buried in her

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<v Speaker 1>wedding dress from her first marriage to the Earl of

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<v Speaker 1>Strathmore back when she was eighteen. Even though it seems

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<v Speaker 1>a little weird for someone who had such agonizing, miserable marriages,

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<v Speaker 1>it speaks to a romantic sensibility that survived even an

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<v Speaker 1>unspeakable violence. Her second request was for a statue of

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<v Speaker 1>the blindfolded Figure of Justice to be placed on her tomb.

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<v Speaker 1>That request was unfortunately ignored, but even without the statue,

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<v Speaker 1>her life was a testament to justice. Mary Eleanor Bows

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<v Speaker 1>fought for it in the face of a cruel system

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<v Speaker 1>and a pathologically abusive husband, and despite the odds, she won.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the story of Mary Eleanor Bow's but keep listening

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<v Speaker 1>after a brief sponsor break to hear a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more about one of her descendants. It was a divorce

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<v Speaker 1>trial that catapulted Mary Eleanor Bows into the spotlight, and

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<v Speaker 1>almost two hundred years later, the lives of one of

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<v Speaker 1>her direct descendants would also be changed forever because of

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<v Speaker 1>a divorce, or rather because of a divorcee. In nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six, King Edward the Eighth abdicated the throne in

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<v Speaker 1>order to marry the woman he loved, an American named

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<v Speaker 1>Wallace Simpson, who was twice divorced with her previous husband

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<v Speaker 1>still alive. Seeing as the King of England was also

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<v Speaker 1>the head of the Church of England, that simply could

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<v Speaker 1>not be abided, and so Edward the eighth stepped aside

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<v Speaker 1>and his younger brother rose to the throne as George

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<v Speaker 1>the sixth. And at George's side was his wife, Elizabeth

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<v Speaker 1>Bow's Lion, a woman who never would have imagined that

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<v Speaker 1>she might become queen now. The late Queen Elizabeth is

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<v Speaker 1>more frequently known as the Queen Mother because she was

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<v Speaker 1>the dowager Queen for decades and mother to the Queen

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<v Speaker 1>Elizabeth who reigned for much of the twentieth century. But

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<v Speaker 1>Elizabeth Bow's Lion Queen Mother was also the great great

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<v Speaker 1>great granddaughter of Mary Eleanor Bows. Noble Blood is a

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<v Speaker 1>production of iHeartRadio and Grimm and Mild from Aaron Manke.

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<v Speaker 1>Noble Blood is created and hosted by me Dana Schwort,

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<v Speaker 1>with additional writing and researching by Hannah Johnston, Hannah Zwick,

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<v Speaker 1>Mira Hayward, Courtney Sender, and Lori Goodman. The show is

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<v Speaker 1>edited and produced by Noemi Griffin and rema Ill Kahali,

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