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Speaker 1: What's up? Thank Jay? What up? Pop? Yeah? You got

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Speaker 1: some sleep? Man like good? I had to get up

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Speaker 1: in the morning and get my um, get my situation together,

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Speaker 1: get it getting in the gym, Yeah kind of. I

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Speaker 1: ain't drinking no stealcie as yet. Okay, you need your

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Speaker 1: booster What the hell is booster? Okay, but that ship

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Speaker 1: hips with your math? Well, I ain't even get them

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Speaker 1: folks out of that right there where I tell y'all. Yeah, Jake,

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Speaker 1: what's what's the word? I'm a really Gucci? You know

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Speaker 1: you know who for no Gucci? Wait two thousand four?

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Speaker 1: She no big Cat? Well how did the verse goes? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: By Simpson? Gucci? What's saw my mind to day? When

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Speaker 1: you was talking about some kind of cool before we

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Speaker 1: lolled on? I think we could we could build off

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Speaker 1: of that, Yes, for sure. So basically Um. What I

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Speaker 1: was talking about is there is a black hair care

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Speaker 1: and skincare cosmetics line UM called MEO Organics, UM, and

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Speaker 1: they fucking blew out of the water because black women

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Speaker 1: were raving about how their products were actually effective on

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Speaker 1: every aspect of the black woman, like the natural hair,

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Speaker 1: the fucking natural skin. You know what I'm saying that

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Speaker 1: the stuff, all the stuff the black women go through,

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Speaker 1: like MEO had basically found a remedy for it, and um, recently,

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Speaker 1: well I don't want to say recently, but a few

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Speaker 1: months ago, there was a Caucasian woman that made a

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Speaker 1: TikTok using the Meal products. And once the Caucasian woman

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Speaker 1: made the TikTok, all of the rest of the Caucasian

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Speaker 1: women started buying the products and it sold out everywhere,

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Speaker 1: so there was not no more Meal nowhere for the

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Speaker 1: black women. And the discussion on Twitter was that black

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Speaker 1: women felt like, Okay, this was another thing that was

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Speaker 1: misappropriated by the Caucasian people and taking away from the

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Speaker 1: African American people. I just want to yes, who created

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Speaker 1: the project the product again as a black woman? Right? Yes? Man? Okay,

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Speaker 1: my bad man. Sorry, I'm sorry. You know what I'm

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Speaker 1: saying like, look, a black woman created a product. Yes,

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Speaker 1: so can you create a product and stop anybody from

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Speaker 1: I guess it could in quite Caucasian women could have

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Speaker 1: been using it forever, but it didn't blow up on

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Speaker 1: to it until this lady made this TikTok and then

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Speaker 1: it's sold out allegedly because of the Caucasian purchase. But

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Speaker 1: here's a here's the here's the even bigger picture to

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Speaker 1: the ship. Here's the kicker. So. Um, also, not too

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Speaker 1: long ago, a few weeks ago or whatever, she actually

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Speaker 1: sold the company to Procter and Gamble, which is, you know,

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Speaker 1: they produced like all of the household products whatever whatever,

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Speaker 1: and they're also owned by Caucasian people. Um but um.

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Speaker 1: But as far as as far as the African American

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Speaker 1: community is concerned, um, A lot of them, based off

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Speaker 1: care about you know how. They're going to change her

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Speaker 1: to where she was able to sell she said, the

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Speaker 1: whole company. Yes, So I got two questions ahead, a

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Speaker 1: ready questions? Shoot, all right, Oh, did Dion Sanders sellout?

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Speaker 1: He stayed down at an hbc U for three or

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Speaker 1: me to play devil's advocate. Okay, so devil's advocate on

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Speaker 1: on one hand, you could say my personal opinion. So

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Speaker 1: same thing with every other situation is going on in

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Speaker 1: the world today. If he gave his Jackson State team

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Speaker 1: then I don't think that he sold out. How you

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Speaker 1: owe somebody that's a lord for your life. Though a

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Speaker 1: He it is what it is. But we still don't

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Speaker 1: we keep people in mind for our decisions, but as

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Speaker 1: not saying that's necessarily have to but if if if

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Speaker 1: I'm um Dion, and you're fucking the Jackson State team.

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Speaker 1: If your life decision or whatever coming here, anybody need

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Speaker 1: reason for committing to this entity or to this university

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Speaker 1: here solely because of the promises that you made me

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Speaker 1: feel like you you don't necessarily owe an explanation to anybody,

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Speaker 1: don't know the time. But but the time you would there,

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Speaker 1: And we don't know. We don't know personally what he

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Speaker 1: funk the mood that I'm making for my family. Did

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Speaker 1: And and and you can't pay for that, yeah, and

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Speaker 1: ship show j D cakes right, all right, Now the

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Speaker 1: folks come with a big bag of money, saying some

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Speaker 1: propting Gavil type folks, we want these entities. Right, So

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Speaker 1: what do you do if ten ms are better comes

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Speaker 1: and it's going to some folks, that's gon turn the

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Speaker 1: What it is ain't know saing things selling because at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, when you create a business,

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Speaker 1: the building, to me, the ultimate goal is to sell

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Speaker 1: the business. No matter what we start, they're coming to

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Speaker 1: get j Da Case. They're gonna get you timms, but

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Speaker 1: the jdkse ain't gonna taste like Jada Case. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what. I'm just trying. I'll just try to get clarity.

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Speaker 1: So we'll give you what you want. We'll give you

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Speaker 1: fifty jade, but we're gonna change some ingredients. We'll still

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Speaker 1: how your face on it if you want. I don't

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Speaker 1: the same. But the name Turner, they can keep the name,

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Speaker 1: get it, but you gotta post it. That's part of

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Speaker 1: the money. We want you to endorse it and marry

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Speaker 1: it because we know that's culturally. How are you pleasing

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Speaker 1: the same motherfucker you pleasing could have could have been

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Speaker 1: the same mother. Like I'll said about the lady while

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Speaker 1: I mean, it almost was just like niggas. Niggas and rappers.

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Speaker 1: You ain't been to see niggas jumping around at your shows.

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Speaker 1: You're going the white ball gonna jump around at your shows.

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Speaker 1: The ultimate goal is to dude, coachya all a little

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Speaker 1: So I think it's too I think it's two ways

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Speaker 1: What's selling out supposed you're supposed to make a business.

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Speaker 1: You're supposed to make a business for the purpose of

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Speaker 1: but they might be giving it a little too quick. Okay,

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Speaker 1: they're just like Pinky cod We're gonna take Sletty Vigan, man,

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Speaker 1: she wanted tell a shotside of the pinky mad if

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Speaker 1: she wanted to just keep Sletty Vigan. I want to

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying just an avenue. I mean, what does

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Speaker 1: She did something to well a ship for them to

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Speaker 1: be like McDonald's, like the open the motherfucker's up everywhere.

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Speaker 1: So do I keep this like a mom and pop

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Speaker 1: or do I syndicate my ship choir? Which is debating? Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: So y'all remember um the family in California that was

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Speaker 1: suing California about a beach that their family owned, like

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Speaker 1: in the nineteen twenties or the nineteen tens, and they

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Speaker 1: finally won the case in California had to give them

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Speaker 1: of California for like a hundred something million dollars. So

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Speaker 1: again there was a whole big discussion and the whole

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Speaker 1: big thing of about them being sellouts because they fought

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Speaker 1: resell it back to the same people that had a

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Speaker 1: I think. Let me let me tell you what I

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Speaker 1: think of sellout is right? If I say own whatever

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Speaker 1: how build a rally mind t I will never do that.

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Speaker 1: I'll never sell this to them, folks. I'll never do it.

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Speaker 1: And you stand on that and it be gets big

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying the whole time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and ship, I'd be like, bro, how haven't you got

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00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: at his money? How the niggas ain't on until you

423
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 1: get on? You see? Like I could be done. Gave

424
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 1: a nigga two million chances he could be somewhere and say,

425
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 1: I tell fun him, But he he's not been to

426
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 1: say the two chances I gave him. He's not gonna

427
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 1: say how many times I went in the whole dealing

428
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: with him. So no matter what you do to somebody,

429
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 1: you're gonna be the soul that and they they in

430
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 1: the environment to stand around to make you the conversation

431
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 1: of a sellout. So how that's gonna work. So this

432
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 1: lady who doesn't sold her ship whoever, and the black

433
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 1: ladies who who probably bought this ship one time or

434
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: never bought it, it's gonna say she is to sell out,

435
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: Like that's what I'm saying. So what I'm trying to

436
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 1: say is me my opinion is how the fund diddon

437
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 1: sell out. I took my time to come to Jackson

438
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 1: State to make Jackson State even come out of our

439
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 1: mouth now. And he never said he would be there forever.

440
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: That never came out of his mouth, but said I'm

441
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 1: going down here to do this and change the culture

442
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: of this ship. Now, Jackson State University was never a

443
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: topic until he went. So I did my job for

444
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 1: Jackson State. And there's a lot of black coaches going

445
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: to hbc U s now, a lot of them, like

446
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,120
Speaker 1: five plus. So y'all gonna tell me not to gonna

447
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 1: be prime time, We're going not gonna be prime time

448
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: in Colorado. It's gonna eventually lead me to an NFL

449
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: head coach, I'm appoed to grow. No, I'm not saying

450
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: that you're not supposed to grow, but playing Devil's advocate,

451
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 1: what I was saying is that when you when you're

452
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: when you're leading people, the followers that you're leading that

453
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: are solely following you and your word only deserve some

454
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: kind of something. I get that, but what I'm saying,

455
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is how much of it do

456
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 1: they deserve? So, like I said, do you think anybody

457
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 1: that was up under d coaches, students, anybody in that

458
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: facility didn't gain from being around this man. That's all

459
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying. In a situation like that, don't do it

460
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 1: to your own detriment. I feel like if he left

461
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 1: them cold, like what do that? He didn't do He

462
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: ain't even type of person. Didn't do that. He opened,

463
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: That's all I was saying. And I say he talked

464
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: to him before he made a decision, but he didn't

465
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: do that. He sat them down and said this is

466
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: what it is and pretty much told her if y'all

467
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: get opportunity to grow, y'all need to grow too. You

468
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And it's a higher, higher end challenge.

469
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: So if he is able to accomplish and be successful

470
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: in Colorado, that's gonna make the whole situation a little better.

471
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: I just feel like the end of the day, but

472
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: you can't make the season off for motherfucker's saying you're

473
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 1: gonna sell if you ain't sold out internally. But you

474
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: tell that's how you said when you know you can't

475
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: live with your live with your decision. But now people

476
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: gonna sell out, and like Masket, though they know they

477
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 1: can't looking at me, they know they sold their people

478
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: out of sold out. That's what I said. I feel

479
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 1: like when you sold out, you know, and the sucker ship, right,

480
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,239
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. If

481
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 1: you know in your heart you ain't did no sucking ship,

482
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: you ain't did no sucker ship, no matter how what

483
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: mass you put on, some people throw it off though

484
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: they don't understand that they did some sucker ship until

485
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: way later. Well that kind of goes they know, Hell, yeah, bro,

486
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: you know, get what if you got to think about

487
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: it more than one time after you've done it, you

488
00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: know you did some bullshit. Yeah, you make a decision

489
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: about something and then you don't think about it the

490
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 1: mode that the right decision in Mama, look at it's

491
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: a way to look at it. I don't know. I

492
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: could be wrong, but me the way I operate, I

493
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: can't make a decision for Jay. I can't make a

494
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: decision for screen, right, you know what I'm saying. And

495
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: I can, but I can't explain to y'all while I'm

496
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 1: making this decision for me for sure. So how the

497
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: funk am I selling out? Batters? If someone whoever that is,

498
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: was so strong on I will never That's the only way.

499
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: When you get in a relationship with a woman and

500
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: you marry her, you say I would me, and you

501
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: say I would never leave you. You're speaking on if

502
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: there ain't no different, bro, Because at the end of

503
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: the day, she felt like you would never leave her.

504
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: So what's she gonna say? You will sell out? Niga

505
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: sold me out. Happened, nothing may not happen. You may

506
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 1: outgrow her, But what was the reason? Yeah, that's the reason.

507
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 1: What I'm saying being a reason. I'm just I could

508
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: wake up one day be like I'm suck of this

509
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: bitch man. If Banks say I ain't, If Banks say

510
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,479
Speaker 1: I ain't never dye my hair blond with purple streaks

511
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 1: in it. We're gonna hold you to that, bro, And

512
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 1: if I do that, I'm a bit in my mind

513
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: because I feel like that's selling out. You might have

514
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 1: just never be that. That's what I'm saying. The word never,

515
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 1: that's what That's what you understand this when you tell

516
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: your wife, you don't you tell your wife, Jessica, baby,

517
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: I'm never leaving you. You You and my understand that. Okay,

518
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: God forbid, God forbid. You wake up a whole new

519
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: nigga and say, well, she say I sold it out.

520
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: She saw me out. How you you? You put it there?

521
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: You you you put it there. You could have just

522
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: been in this situation and never made that promise. You

523
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: could have but that. But that's how you feel in

524
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: the moment too, though. Sometimes never be in the moment,

525
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: and we all sell up. Sometimes never be in the moment,

526
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: then we all sell out. Sometimes never been. I always

527
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: say I'd never take my goals. I got some goals

528
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: in my mouth, forget them. That's gonna lad to ninety years,

529
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: King Tuck Goat, I'm gonna take the motherfucker's out soon

530
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: or later. But at the time, I felt like I

531
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: never would ye this situational. This situational. Yeah, and motherfucker

532
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: might see me when I get the white teeth, Like

533
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: isn't gonna sold out? But okay, I guess a look.

534
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: I think a look is different than a cause. You

535
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like a cause is like enhancing

536
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: people's health or people following you for that's what I said.

537
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: I said morally, like you can never you can. Like

538
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: I remember I said I would never wear skinny jeans

539
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: when they first came out, but then he got skinny

540
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: and he but then that's all they sold. Yeah, it

541
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: wasn't no more big boot cut jeanes, no mo bro,

542
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: all the genes. Even though we got him a we

543
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: wm tight. They we wore skinny jeans though every gene

544
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: came skinny fit at this point, at the point I

545
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: think you said before like you would never get on

546
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: social media. Yeah, social media, That's what I'm saying. But

547
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: that just be a mind framing this light. You get

548
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, Ship you'll say in the moment

549
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: like I never do this, but you just you really

550
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: only mean that for now because times you could grow

551
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: into it, and thank you bro, that's all I'm saying.

552
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: So it's the better is the better is the more

553
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: the story. Never say never? Now I can go for that.

554
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: I'll never say never because at the end of the day,

555
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: like like you said, a motheruckers say I never signed

556
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: a contract because they're doing good in their space, but

557
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: they've never had the mother to tell them or presenting

558
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: them with the money. They know they are never mate

559
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: being independent. That's why they're saying that, right, never say never.

560
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: I think that's that's part of the moral of the story. Yeah,

561
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: you can never say never, bro, because never by some

562
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: ships you can I can't self like I'm not gonna

563
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: go in that back room and yeah, like morally, b yeah,

564
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:01,959
Speaker 1: I get it, that's what I'm saying. But you can

565
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: never say what's gonna happen in the street ship morally though,

566
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: Like we're going back to that hood ship, like he

567
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: will never do a record with so and so because

568
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: the hoods whatever is the street ship morally or is

569
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: it not? It depends on its situational situation. Because at

570
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I could say I'm never

571
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: doing a record with a nigga because of jade, because

572
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: you don't folk with but me and Jay fall, I

573
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: ain't really have no property folks, so I never would

574
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: do a record with them because of Jade. But I

575
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: really fought with the nigga. But my morals and my

576
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: this my dog, so it ain't funk with y'all nigga.

577
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: But then she turned to some bullshit. I don't got

578
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: no problem with nigga if I see y'all a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

579
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: let's get let's let's get it, make business and let's

580
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: do it. It's still a business at the end of

581
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: the day, right, So what is it sellout a motherfucker

582
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: that doing something that goes against his morals? To me,

583
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, maybe, and maybe that isn't going again.

584
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: So girls colding morals to sell that ship, because maybe

585
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: that was up playing the whole time. Thank you. Maybe

586
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: we don't know until we bring it in. Everybody listen,

587
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: everybody lists send back saying that she sold out, didn't

588
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: get no money off that ship, right, that's the key,

589
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: and her family feel like she sold out or whoever

590
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: is been a fitting off the next company she's about

591
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: to cree. You can never say never, bro, never say never.

592
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: And then she probably through I'm think they probably I'm through, Bro,

593
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't. I didn't did everything I need

594
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: to do for my life. Yeah, that's the purpose of

595
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: this ship. I think people do miss the business purpose

596
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: of it. Likes it sounds so good when that new

597
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: rapper say everything you want to hear, right, So it

598
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: sounds so good, especially if you're in that space with him.

599
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, man, this is the voice of us,

600
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: and this is the person that that that. But hey,

601
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: Taylor swifting them call talking about some other ship and

602
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: you tie the dealing with all the ship at that

603
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: level as an artist, you might go ahead and but

604
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: why wouldn't you? Though? Bro? What's what's the ultimate goal

605
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,479
Speaker 1: in business? I think everybody else's. I think everybody's goal

606
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: is different though, especially this day, because we're in a

607
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: cloud error. So the ultimate goal might not just be money,

608
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: not even popularity. Yeah yeah, not even money, a cloud

609
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: of popularity. And I'm saying, like to me, when you

610
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: get in music ship unless you're doing the ship for

611
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: a hybb, But the ultimate goal is to be number one? Right.

612
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: In order to be number one, what do you think

613
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: you have to do? You gotta be the biggest brand

614
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: that you can be. You gotta be a pop star,

615
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: regardless of what. You can't be the biggest, nothing like

616
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: my popler Savage. He's a fucking pop star. No matter

617
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: how good are he talked on these rappers, on these records,

618
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: He's a fucking pop star. Model all this ship he did,

619
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: he's still a good But he did it his way.

620
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: I think that's important. He did, but he still did

621
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: songs with Post Malone. Yeah his way, yeah his way,

622
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: but but he but he still is a pop star

623
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: no matter what, no matter his way, the tattoos, no

624
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: matter what, no matter how. When you look at this nigga,

625
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: this is a pop star, nothing else like. But some

626
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: people can say that that sold out because he got

627
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: white teeth. I think the sold out would be if

628
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 1: you heard him on some bullshit doing some like weird election.

629
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: They just and he was he conformed to if he

630
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: did it dayway. He didn't do it dayway. You understand

631
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 1: I was saying, and they said, you can't rap about this,

632
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: and you can't say this, and you can't do that,

633
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: and you can't do this, and he went for it.

634
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: That's not what he did. He crossed him over to him.

635
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 1: That's what he came out. But but but before Samma's

636
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: got the streets, he already had the crockers. No, he

637
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 1: came in as a rock star rapper for sure. First.

638
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: But what I was saying is he did you you

639
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking alone, even on the songs with

640
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: all these other people that he's done songs with on

641
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: some like super duper overly crossed over pop star ship,

642
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: He's still a little man from Glenwood in facts, That's

643
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Facts have a just But you're still walking,

644
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: You're still doing ship. You're walking in these fashion shows

645
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: and ship that ship you never we never thought you

646
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: would do. But he ain't doing it's big, He's still

647
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: He's still but the ultimate goal is to be number one, though,

648
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: but some people feel like you're being a pop star

649
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: to sell out. What I was saying is to number one.

650
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: When I feel like I feel like, okay, speaking on

651
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: the pop star music ship, I feel like being a

652
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 1: sellout is when you go home at night, you take

653
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 1: off all the clothes, you take off all the ship,

654
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: and you are not yourself exactly. That's what I'm saying.

655
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, he didn't do

656
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 1: nothing morally different than himself. Right, So he did. But

657
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: if you think about it, you think the people that

658
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: didn't go with him to the top not saying he

659
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: sold out. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's always gonna

660
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: be somebody to say you sold out regard I got

661
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: the streets, you got this, You ain't. Ain't no black

662
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,919
Speaker 1: posts at your show? What the who the fuck care?

663
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 1: He's still the same nigga with bigger dreams. I'm trying

664
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 1: to think of it, That's all I'm trying to say.

665
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of an example of a sellout

666
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: and a sellout that knows they sold out. But it

667
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: ain't came to me yet. Let me keep thinking, keep talking.

668
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 1: It's just like this. If you come in one way

669
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: and you try to be another way to get there,

670
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 1: you probably sold out. Like you come in too hard,

671
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking. And then you try to be

672
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: like the girls. Yeah, now you're turned into God. Now

673
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: walk walk, You don't turn into that. You sold that

674
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: you talk, You know what I'm saying, Like, because you

675
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: came in talking this ship. Yeah, that's selling out. We'll

676
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: not get big. This is interesting. What makes an artist

677
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: a sellout? In terms of music art, selling out is

678
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: associated with attempts to tell the material to a mainstream

679
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 1: or commercial audience. It's wikipedia, that's I don't believe. I don't.

680
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: I don't agree with because at the end of the day,

681
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: why is you getting initiat if you're not trying to

682
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: be mainstream? Yeah, it's just like right now, Okay, we

683
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 1: stopped smoking on our show just to get more sponsors.

684
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: Did we sell out? If we stop cursing? Did we

685
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: sell out? See? The curse part is did we elevate?

686
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: I mean we can elevate, but the curse part it

687
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: is kind of our core, Like what the core do

688
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: though the court keep you at certain levels? Did we

689
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: really sorry? Like they can sell out moments in our

690
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 1: culture and they say, and don't disrespect the o g

691
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: legend that it came posing for play Girl. You see

692
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: a picture of that. It came pollos of Playgirl. Is

693
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: that sell it up? That's so? That's so? So? What

694
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: was Tupac in the tub? Yeah? We guy apples and orangins,

695
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: tomatoes and tomates. Black Eyed Peas was just a rap group.

696
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: They say, black Eyed Peas adding Fergie and going pop.

697
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: Is that selling up? I ain't know ship about them

698
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: so far you got it. This is just like the

699
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: guy damn Brandy was talking about. Ain't nothing that the

700
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: choices bro the man POVERI play girl. They said he

701
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: sold out. Let me picture look fish just she does.

702
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: But now let's let's ask the question. Okay, I don't agree.

703
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: I don't think he crossed over. That's just like what's

704
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: her name? But man from Florida, Florida. But he came

705
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: out the boots with the fire now, but then when

706
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: he saw his winning his lane. But only and I

707
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: can't remember every lyric. It only matters if you said

708
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: I'll never do that ship. Yeah, that ship don't work

709
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: for everybody. That don't work for everybody exactly. No, let's

710
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: go back to the podcast. Okay, if we remove, if

711
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: we take a deal right now to say, okay, a

712
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: sponsor agent comes, we clean it up with y'all cleaning up. Yeah,

713
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 1: did we sell out? Jay said we do because I

714
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,959
Speaker 1: caught one here was cussing. No, I don't. Here's here's

715
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: the thing. I just feel like, okay, the smoking thing. No,

716
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: it's not selling out because you're trying to get to

717
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: the next level. But as far as like to me,

718
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: the cursing like a completely and totally clean podcast with

719
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: no cursing. Like when it I feel like when it

720
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: comes to us, like some curse words are our form

721
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: of expression. So and that's what that's what people like

722
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: to hear our core tone it down in a problem.

723
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, it would sound weird as hell if we

724
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: never said not one know, that's talking different. Bro's talking different,

725
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: said talking different. Yeah, we just sisor sis. I don't

726
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: want to hear that our coring. I don't want to

727
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: hear that. But your court don't want to see you

728
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 1: get no money in Is your court really with you?

729
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: It's a tricky one. Is your court really with you?

730
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: Or is your court wants you to stay ignorant? So

731
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: do you got the right cor that what you gotta

732
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: ask yourself? Brother? I can't argue with that. I'm just

733
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: saying that, what you gotta ask yourself. I think it's

734
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: levels to it. Like if we're coming here, that's one thing.

735
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 1: If you're talking different, bro, I just were just saying

736
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: all these words that I'm saying right now with no

737
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: kurch words, I'm still talking like bank this me. Yeah,

738
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: then that's keeping it what it is? This me. But

739
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,919
Speaker 1: if you, if if we both come in with blond

740
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: hair and a three shades lighter and all that type

741
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: of ain't saying that. My grand baby tell me that

742
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: you're saying bad words when we're public eating. So if

743
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: I stop cursing, I sold out. But I still talk

744
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: like me. I still expressed and say things the way

745
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: that I say, staying the same thing instead of saying

746
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: the same ship, I'm saying the same thing. What's the difference? No,

747
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: you're right, I don't think that, but I think that

748
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: I think what Jade is getting that is the the

749
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: the concerted effort part. Like if it sounds like you

750
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: try every time you say something stop yourself, that's not

751
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah not for sure. But if

752
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: you just master just doing it that way, it is

753
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 1: what it is. That's growth. That's all I'm saying. Like,

754
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: but if you if you say a hundred times, people

755
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: wouldn't even notice. You Gotta think about it, bro, if

756
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,919
Speaker 1: we just if we didn't like not saying it's gonna happen,

757
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: if we didn't curse and still talk like, people wouldn't

758
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: even notice until they'd be like, damn, they ain't say

759
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: no cause word that that that what's the name? You

760
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: get what I'm saying. But when you try to do

761
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: something like you said you you and the mother, trying

762
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: to be like oh oh no bro you yeah yeah,

763
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 1: because because that ain't you. It's like you get on

764
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: the record with that pop star and you're trying to

765
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: be like them when they called you. Yeah, they called

766
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: you turn them up in this culture. But you over

767
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: there trying to be like watering your ship down to

768
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 1: be like them when they called you. That's sell out.

769
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: So when they call you, they got to know it's

770
00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 1: on my terms. I'm coming to do what I do.

771
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: Just the only reason why I say and I don't

772
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 1: know if we're about the end of what But I

773
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: don't read why I say sellout is situation. What's what's

774
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: the situation? Not situational? Um? I don't know. I don't

775
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: read why I say, um, sell out. It has to

776
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 1: be within you. It's because everybody have an opinion on everything,

777
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: everybody to do. So no matter what you do, I

778
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: can I can just we like I wear sweats all

779
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: the time. I might say I sold out because I

780
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: don't what is imam? That's what I'm trying to tell you.

781
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: So if it don't, if it don't affect you morally

782
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 1: or affect the people that's right around you saying like, hell, love, man,

783
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: I ain't tripping. How you tripping? I feel like, but

784
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: if I'm selling out screen, I'm gonna be like, got

785
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: a call from screen or she'll tell you she ain't

786
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 1: laying with that. I mean, like, bro, what the funk

787
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: is wrong with you? That's when I'm gonna know I'm tripping.

788
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: My son, them didn't go for that. I think of

789
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So the motherfucker that don't know me

790
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 1: saying some shit about me, how that work? It don't matter.

791
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: That don't matter. No, that don't matter. The general the

792
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: general public and opinion don't matter. All I'm saying you

793
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: ain't sell to yourself, in your family and your immediate

794
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: a circle. Who the funk else can call yourself? This

795
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: is my whole point and the whole thing. It's only

796
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: it's only when you say you'll never bro. I just

797
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: said I never do a lot of ship and do

798
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: a screen. I won't trying to tell you so because

799
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 1: it's because I like light these Jens is slaying fitting up. Yeah,

800
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: that's a little bit different. I'm talking about some ship.

801
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: Then it's impactful for people like not just what you're wearing.

802
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: But if you're saying, I'll never tell that that's that's

803
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: but to me, that would be morally wrong, right, Yeah,

804
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: I agree. I'm saying I don't agree with you, But

805
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,919
Speaker 1: I was saying, some of these people think it will

806
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 1: be morally wrong for me to cross over and do

807
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: a certain type of music, and they make whole songs

808
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: and albums about it. They whole out and be like

809
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: them got there, the niggas and the commercial niggas, and

810
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: they do that and they become that. That usually is

811
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: what happened with rappers. But that's the growth. To me,

812
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: I understand that ain't saying that's growth. At the end

813
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: of the day, you you're not gonna think the same

814
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: way if you've been in the game ten fteen years.

815
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: You know, Shnoop Dogg never thought he would be on

816
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 1: the show with Martha Stewart. Yeah, but it didn't change

817
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: who he was. What you mean he goes smoke weed

818
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: in front of Martha stoodents. Oh yeah, yeah, it's all

819
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: the same way that that a little bit that savage

820
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 1: is savage wherever he goes no matter who he's around.

821
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: Snoop Dogg is gonna Snoop dog no matter who Snoop

822
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: dog totally different though at the super Bowl he's totally different.

823
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,399
Speaker 1: He's smoking, but he still but they saying he's still

824
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: totally different than he wo murder what his case came out.

825
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: Don't get it totally, not totally. His brand is totally different,

826
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: not totally. I disagree, you're going the same smoking, don't

827
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: banging for sure, don gang banging different more. Don't say

828
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: it was totally different more. That's what I'm trying to tell.

829
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: It's a difference. So if you look at Schnoop Dogg

830
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: from back in the day, from doggar style to Snoop Dogg,

831
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: now you think it ain't an old lad nigga hit

832
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 1: the neighborhood saying then' there gonna sell out? It is

833
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: I that saying he's a sellout now was probably a

834
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: hater back then. We can look at interviews, they're saying

835
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: that he wasn't like that, he wasn't like this. He

836
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: shoot night, them just slap him out and all that. Man,

837
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: I don't vote death row now he never said, but

838
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 1: he never said that he wasn't gonna He never said

839
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna do that. It wasn't a never say.

840
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: He never say when I joined the Crip, I'm saying,

841
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 1: I'm never letting a nigga play with me. That's all

842
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But that don't mean this abody gonna play

843
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: with dog Bro. I'm saying, like y'all ain't getting him

844
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: trying to no matter what happened, somebody gonna say you

845
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: sold that for sure, Yes, no matter what happened. And

846
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: Snoop brands not the same thing. He wouldn't be able

847
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: to go all right. When he was pulling up back

848
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: in the day, he pulling up fifty sixty niggas he

849
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: pulling up, that probably just him shining in the security

850
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: or something with smoking weed. That's a difference. And he's

851
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: still smoking weed and he's still blew That's what I'm saying.

852
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: But that's a difference. Though. It's a difference. It's a

853
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: different nick putting up with a bunch of nigga shooter

854
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: sticks and all that. That's a difference, right, some people

855
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 1: looking at that, it's selling out where your niggas at.

856
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: I don't need you'll understand with me with math, Stewart.

857
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: That's a total different brand, right right, right. But I

858
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: just ain't never hear him saying I don't want to

859
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 1: keep going to show. I ain't never hear him say

860
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: I will never. You think he ain't telling niggas I'll

861
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 1: never leave, y'all. I'm always hear my niggs with me.

862
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. We don't know niggah in Yeah, we

863
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: don't know. It's always gonna be some like you. For

864
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: what these niggas said on records. It's something these niggas

865
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: said never and they did it. Yeah, that's so you

866
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: think back in the day that them niggas didn't didn't

867
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: take in the studio, I'd never be be a pop

868
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: star because you know that was frowned upon back in

869
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: them day until popular music took over. I think it's

870
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: started happening naturally. It just became pop music. Ain't trying

871
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: to be pop star as they are. I think't happened

872
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: when run DMC did Walked This Way with Aerosmith, that

873
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: was that was, That was that was That was like

874
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 1: the tip of the iceberg of it. But it's like ship,

875
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 1: these motherfucker's became like I don't think Nelly was writing

876
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: that song like right, like I'm gonna do that. It

877
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: just happened, but he still was. I don't know that

878
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: a day. But all I'm saying is if it ain't

879
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 1: morally wrong, bro, and when you feel like in your

880
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: heart that you know what I did some bullshit businesses

881
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:52,919
Speaker 1: bidden and in mindset change every day. Fact, I'm saying,

882
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: I get there in my head, I'm just not. I

883
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: have one particular situation where I know people said, you

884
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: remember when you said that, right? I know, should I

885
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: grew whatever I said, I'll never do radio that I'm

886
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: in the streets mixtapes. I say that on the mixtape.

887
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 1: It's there. It's gonna hunt me forever. But you'll be

888
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: a damned I was a damned fool back then when

889
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: I said that. That's all I'm saying. Get you, you

890
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: can never say never. But that's just I don't feel

891
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: morally like I crossed nobody and nobody. That's that you

892
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: just saw the whole day. I agree. I agree, but

893
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: it's not for a cause. It's not for a cause.

894
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 1: It's differently rich was a cause who were just still

895
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: that's what you said that on a hood rich mixtape.

896
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: I never ripped I know the radio. You had to

897
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: go do radio by yourself with me, but the opportunity.

898
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:45,479
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, the folk who've

899
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: watched they want to hear no I get I can't

900
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: got them say something, bro, I can't say that bank.

901
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: I just said, like call back screen. You can't get

902
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: break twenty mics in him, but like say something your turn,

903
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: No no DJ scream talking on the radio. And if

904
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 1: your niggas love you like I said, like we said

905
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: last man, they with you. Brother, you have chosen one

906
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: bro right, I got it. And they're gonna get on

907
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: their knees unless you stand on their backs. Yeah, you're

908
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: the chosen one, b because at the end of the day,

909
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: you pulling you're pulling the brand up anyway by you

910
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: being in radio. That's all I'm saying. So at the

911
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 1: end of the day, how you sell out when I'm

912
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: still told this hood rich flag? Right? No, I agree

913
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: with that. So I'm sure y'all what's possible out of

914
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: this ship. Well, we thought we weren't gonna never do.

915
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: Look what they look what the world has pushed up to.

916
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:49,760
Speaker 1: But if me going from that to that was detrimental

917
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: to a real cause a real thing. That's that's what

918
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: you wouldn't beady to take it. That's like you don't

919
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: even sound the same for me. Exstapes and you were

920
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: sound retarded, trying to sound the same old rad yo say.

921
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: But you still did it your way. DJ Strenge still

922
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: DJ spreen because coming to mother who you did me

923
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: stay fun the first day they still be like even

924
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: shouts oide um U takeoff and they were like, man, no,

925
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: we had to get that DJ scream me take They're

926
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: still looking at you a DJ screams. It has evolved

927
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,879
Speaker 1: until now I'm talking to you on your podcast, king

928
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: for sure. No, I agree, you don't hunt me. I'll

929
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 1: just bring it up because every now and then, remember

930
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: that's just niggas. Thank you and get what them niggas

931
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: still listening to your podcast like no screen the podcast.

932
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: But you said you were gon never but I'm glad

933
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: you did exactly. I get it. I get it. Yeah

934
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: a little people with y'all sell uh JD case and

935
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 1: ship show like like in the movie. Like I said,

936
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 1: I would never play homosexual role. I would never do that.

937
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: I wouldn't give a funk. They said, billion dollars I'm

938
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: never doing that because I can't play like that right,

939
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: Like how I just won't be an actor. So never

940
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: say never. But they are never. That's the more the story.

941
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: They are plenty, never cliny never, But because it's it's

942
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: within you morally, like they can come to me and

943
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: tell me, like eating with the rap ship, we're doing

944
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: the rap ship. I just felt like, Man, I ain't

945
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 1: doing this ship. This ain't me. I quit then feel right.

946
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: People probably feel like, Bro, why you quit? You could have?

947
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: You could have. I didn't feel right, Bro. I get

948
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: anxiety on stage and ship that ain't for me because

949
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: they don't feel like my purpose. I walk on stage,

950
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 1: now what y'all doing this? Ship? I feel good. I

951
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: don't have to throw up. I don't have nothing because

952
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: this I feel like I'm in my purpose, like I'm

953
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: just being me. That's a difference, bro. Yeah, you know

954
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 1: you're doing something that ain't right. Bro, in your core

955
00:51:55,960 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: you could feel it. Brom No, for sure that while

956
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: every time you you'd be like, year, I gotta see

957
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: what brother say, because you know if that ship feel

958
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: like this ain't nitche screen, I ain't doing it. Yeah, Well, look,

959
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: we anxious to know what y'all think you know saying

960
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,040
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00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,120
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964
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