1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks, DJ, Bucky 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: back together and Buck. We've got it. We've got a fund. One. Today, 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about Jalen Hurts and his development and 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: uh take a little deeper on that one. You've done 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: some work on that. We're gonna talk about building a 7 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: championship college roster, which I think is a fascinating discussion. 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: Signing day, I believe it's tomorrow, the early signing day 9 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: here for college football transfer portal is popping. We've got 10 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: some thoughts on that, how to how to build that out. 11 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: And we're also going to recap what we saw last 12 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: night in the game that I don't know that too 13 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: many folks were all that interested in, but we'll talk 14 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: about it anyways, with the with the Packers and the Ramps. 15 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: How you do man, this should be fun, so f man, 16 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: let's get right to it. Man, Let's talk about Jalen 17 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: Hurts being an m v P DJ. And I think 18 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: the reason why this is such a fascinating conversation is 19 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 1: because I think each and every year we're in this business, uh, 20 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: scouting or even as a media scout. I think you 21 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: come away with lessons that you learn an evaluating players, 22 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: and I think Jalen Hurts is gonna be a case 23 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: study in how to evaluate the person more so than 24 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: the player. I think everything about Jalen Hursts, and we'll 25 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: talk about the skills on the field, but all of 26 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: the stuff that makes him successful between the lines is 27 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: all of the intangible stuff. The football character stuff that 28 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: we used to talk about in meetings, UH, the work 29 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: ethic UH, the leadership ability, UH, the ability to really 30 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 1: put team over self. All those characteristics that really go 31 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,199 Speaker 1: unspoken about when we're when we're talking about it maybe 32 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: sometimes on TV. Those are the ingredients that allow him 33 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: to be the leader of the team and allows him 34 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 1: to kind of stand in front of the team and 35 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: be the guy that everyone wants to follow behind. And 36 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: so we talked about the quarterback position being a lot 37 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: of different things, but the one thing that we know 38 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: it is it's a leadership position. And Jalen hurts football 39 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: journey going from Alabama to Oklahoma then the Philadelphia he 40 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: displayed a lot of extraordinary qualities that have served him 41 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: will once he became the starting quarterback Eagles. Yeah, I've 42 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: I've got a couple of things I want to get 43 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: to here, but I'm gonna play a little game called 44 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: high low hare Buck, and I want to show you 45 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: how this thing has come together so perfectly for Jalen 46 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: Hurts in the Philadelphia Eagles. Let's start. We're gonna go 47 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: low high low high. So let's start low expectations, right, 48 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: not a first round pick, somebody who went in the 49 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: second round. Um, you had Carson Wentz was already there, 50 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: remember it was you know, we're just gonna try and 51 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: collect as much quarterback town as we possibly can. So 52 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: you have low expectations, but you have high talent. There's 53 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: tons of ability in Jalen Hurts. We knew what he 54 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: can do as a runner in Alabama. We saw him develop, 55 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: uh and kind of that trend line heading up at 56 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: Oklahoma under Lincoln Riley. So you've got low expectations but 57 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: a high level of talent. You've got low ego, right, 58 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: does not have a big ego, doesn't come in thinking 59 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: he knows everything. Um, he's he's definitely somebody that's very humble. 60 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: So you've got low ego, but you've got a high 61 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: work ethic. Somebody you have to kick out of the building. 62 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: You talk to people there, they say he's there when 63 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: you get there in the morning, he's there when leaving 64 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: the evening. Uh, he is committed. You've got somebody who's 65 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 1: low on words. Right. How many times have we seen 66 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 1: quarterbacks We saw it with Zack Wilson this year kind 67 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: of get in trouble for you know, saying something they 68 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: shouldn't have said or not not doing the right thing 69 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: in a press conference. He's not gonna have any issues there. 70 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: And then he's he's high on character, high on actions. 71 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: So to me, everything that kind of comes together with 72 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts was a perfect storm. He went to the 73 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: right place. But make no mistake about it. He's where 74 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: he is and they're where they are because this guy 75 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: has an insatiable work ethic. Book. He's just he's an 76 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: animal the way he gets after it. And you've seen 77 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: the growth in the development year after year. You've seen 78 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: the growth in development, and I encourage anybody man On 79 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: social media, there's a clip going around where he's standing 80 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: after the game addressing the media and they're asking him 81 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: about the Bears game and those things, and he's talking 82 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: about respect, respecting every opponent, and not worried about the 83 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: outside noise. And now some weeks reporters don't ask him 84 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: about the other team because everyone is maybe kind of 85 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 1: setting this team up the field or looking for the 86 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: other shoe to drop. And he talked about just going 87 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: about your business, really committing to the process. And a 88 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: lot of times when we hear that stuff, we think 89 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: is just coach speak, But in watching Jalen Hurts, Jalen 90 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: Hurst lives out all of those things that we've heard, 91 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: the cliches from coaches along the way, the stuff, the 92 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: sabanisms that we've heard for years and years for people 93 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: coming out of Alabama. He really embodies that stuff. And 94 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: I think what happens is when your quarterback is consistent 95 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: like that, your team takes on the personality of the quarterback. 96 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: He is straight, flatline, right across the board, no ebbs 97 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: and flows, not too high, not too low. He just 98 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: goes about his business each week. And because of that, 99 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 1: you have a team that has been very consistent and 100 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: how they perform and how they play. And so I 101 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: want to give a lot of credit to him in 102 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: the football character side. When he was coming out, I 103 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: had a conversation with uh an executive about Jalen Hurst 104 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: and who he reminded me of, and he reminded me 105 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: a lot of Dak Prescott when Dak Prescott was coming 106 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: out of Mississippi State. This fels with what they were. 107 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: But when you talk to the people down and Startville, 108 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: everyone said the same thing. Man, leader of men, work ethic, 109 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: all those other things were superb. Dak Prescott, you talked 110 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: about low expectations, high talent. He steps into a Dallas 111 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: Cowboys situation, not expected to be the starter, Tony Romo 112 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: gets hurt, he takes off, and they flourished. Very similar 113 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: to the path that Jalen Hurts has taken. And the 114 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: one thing that Jenaln Hurts has done each and every 115 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: offseason he is committed to getting better and improve in 116 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: some aspect of his game and you see it play out. 117 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: I don't think we can underestimate the football character part 118 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: of the evaluation when we're looking at quarterbacks going forward. Okay, 119 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna challenge you here, Okay, because this 120 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: one I've been thinking about Jalen Hurts and I'm trying 121 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: to draw some similarities. I love your Dak Prescott comp. 122 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: We talked about that a lot in the run up. 123 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna challenge you right now, Buck, and I think 124 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: you can do this. Tell me five things that Jalen 125 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: Hurts and Joe Burrow have in common, because when I 126 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: look at their stories, how they were developed, how they 127 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: grew up, what they've done, and where they are right now, 128 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of similarities. So much 129 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: challenge you right now. Can you give me five things 130 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: in common between Joe Burrow and Jalen Hurts. Uh, undeniable, 131 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: unshakable confidence is one grit, a level of toughness where 132 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: they don't blink your flinch in adverse situations. UM are 133 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: proven track record of success where they have won, and 134 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: one at the highest levels. Jenna Hurst won Alabama and 135 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: went to Oklahoma. He came off the bench and through 136 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: a critical touchdown pass in the SEC championship game. And 137 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: if Deshaun Watson doesn't make a miraculous play or leader 138 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: miraculous drive, he was a national title as a true 139 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: freshman for an Alabama team. So you have that, you 140 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: have the winning pedigree. UM, I think you have a 141 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: guy who was committed to working on his game off 142 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: the field, because he was never viewed as the best 143 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: quarterback in the country, in the room and those things, 144 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: and I think there's enough humility about them that they 145 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: don't believe that they figured it out. So there's a 146 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: curiosity to see, how can I make my game that 147 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: much better? So this is a cop we don't hear 148 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: a lot of. But I think it's interesting because you 149 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: just mentioned confidence, grit. They were winners, their workers, their 150 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: humble They're both correcting me if I'm wrong, sons of coaches. 151 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: They both were underappreciated at that first college stop had 152 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: to transfer, and when they transferred, they took their game 153 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: to another level. So overcoming adversity was a big part 154 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: of their deal. And there's also just that, you know, 155 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: I think of that video, remember the video at Ohio 156 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: State of Joe Burrow, and they were like, what was 157 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: it like a whole rope where they were, you know, 158 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: like wrestling or something on the field. I'm like, this 159 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: guy is a warrior, Like he is a warrior. I 160 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: think some of that warrior mentality I know Jalen Hurts 161 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: has that those guys have a lot more in common, 162 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: I think than anybody ever talks about. So you talk 163 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: about the video of Joe Bird doing in Madrill's How 164 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: about the video of Jalen Hurts squad and was his 165 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: six hundred pounds in the weight room all the guys 166 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: around him as he's taking it up. DJ is one 167 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: of those things where we're talking about the quarterback right, 168 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: and a lot of times you want to see quarterbacks 169 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: live to see how they interact with their teammates. The 170 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: one thing that you would appreciate if it's a quarterback 171 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: is one of the guys meeting. He's willing to do 172 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: the same work that the guys do. He doesn't necessarily 173 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: set himself apart. So on offense, it's not one in ten. 174 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: It is a collective eleven million unit. And so with 175 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow and Jalen Hurts, you walk away confident that, 176 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: hey man, these guys assimilate well into the fabric of 177 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: the team. And because their team guys man, the rest 178 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: of the team loves doing whatever it is that they 179 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: asked them to do, because they respond will to their 180 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: leadership styles. It's been a while since I've donated anything 181 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: to the Bucky Brooks column the notebook. Can we hammer 182 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: that out? Because I think that's I think it's fascinating 183 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: because you never hear those guys mentioned they have a 184 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: lot in common. Now they play the game a little 185 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: bit differently. Um, but man, those guys they have a 186 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: lot more in common than they don't have in common. Oh, 187 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: they absolutely have a lot in common. But DJ is 188 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: the same thing we look for in players, like we 189 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: always talk about, UH football character and UH maybe just 190 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: for the masses, people have to understand what we're talking 191 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: about football character. We're talking about those intangible qualities that 192 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: allow you to overcome and thrive in new situations. And 193 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: so when you're digging down and you're scouting, it's not 194 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: just about what you see on the film. Is what 195 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 1: you hear about the player, what you witnessed from the 196 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: player when you were around him. Is what the people 197 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: down the line, the administrators, the coaches, the at the 198 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: UH custodians. What do they say about the people when 199 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 1: no one is watching? How do they respond? How do 200 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: they make them feel about themselves? And so we can 201 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: talk about Jamen Herts's game, his running ability, the way 202 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: he's improved as a pastor and all those things, and 203 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: those things are great, but I really believe his superpower 204 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: man is his character, his toughness, his leadership skills, and 205 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: his ability to persevere when things are tough. These two 206 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: might be on a collision course here. They could be 207 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: seeing each other in the super Bowl when this is 208 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: all said and done, with the Bengals and the Eagles 209 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: both playing phenomenal football. All right, we're gonna take a break. 210 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 1: When we come back, we're gonna talk about this Rams 211 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: Packers game. What can we take away from it? Somehow 212 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: the Packers are still alive. I don't know how, but 213 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: they are still alive at this point in time. Need 214 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: to win out and get a little help. But we'll 215 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 1: dig into that game right after this break. It's a 216 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: season for miracles and for the fiftieth anniversary of the 217 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: Immaculate Reception, NFL Network is celebrating with the rematch for 218 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: the Ages. The Las Vegas Raiders played the Pittsburgh Steelers 219 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: live in primetime this Christmas Eve, the Holiday Classic December 220 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: that's eight pm Eastern only on NFL Network and streaming 221 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: on NFL Plus. UH that has a lot at stake 222 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: in it. Buck Steelers are still kind of hanging around 223 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: UH as far as I know, unless they've been they 224 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: have been eliminated. Have they? I know the a f 225 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: c's pretty wide open. I think there are several sels 226 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: play for their um. The Raiders, on the other hand, 227 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: coming off one of the most bizarre games UH we've 228 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: seen in the ending we talked about the other day 229 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: with the New England Patriots. But let's get to let's 230 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 1: get to what we saw last night. Rams Packers Again. 231 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: I don't know how the Packers are live, but they 232 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: are alive in the NFC at this point in time. 233 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 1: They handle the Rams who were shorthanded. Baker Mayfield a 234 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: little bit of a drop off after that big drive 235 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: he had the last time we saw him. Kind of 236 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: a I want to say, an ugly game, but let 237 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: me give it to you. I won't leave the witness. 238 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: What did you take away from this one? My takeaway 239 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: is that the Packers are finally playing the way that 240 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: they need to play to be able to UH succeed. 241 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: With Aaron Rodgers at the twilight of his career, we 242 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: saw more of the running game and the running and 243 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: backs featured not only as runners but as receivers out 244 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: of the backfield. A J. Dillon, Aaron Jones being kind 245 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: of like the focal points of the game plan. Saw 246 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: a level of physicality from the offense that has been 247 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: lacking and so if the Packers played like this, yeah 248 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: they have a chance. We also saw the growth and 249 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: development of the young receivers. Uh Dobs and Watson both 250 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: made um plays. They both were involved in the passing game. 251 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: But it's more of a controlled ball control outfit. Um. 252 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: That's not the high power offense that we're used to 253 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: seeing under Aaron Rodgers direction, but as one that gives 254 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: them a chance to play the complimentary style the football 255 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: that he need to play to be able to kind 256 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: of scratch and sneak their way into the postseason. Yeah. 257 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think they did anything that wiled 258 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: you offensively. When you watch this game, I flipped over 259 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: to the other side. I thought, maybe one of the 260 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: bigger takeaways in this game, the Rams have been so 261 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: beat up and you up front on the offensive line, 262 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: when you look at some of the pieces they're missing 263 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: from last year to this year, when you think about 264 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: what we're not being there, anything about center being out 265 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 1: now and they they are not good up front. They 266 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: give up five sacks in this game, and poor Baker Mayfield. 267 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 1: Mayfield went from a really solid kind of a cocoon 268 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: type operation there in Cleveland, where he played behind a 269 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: good offensive line, had weapons. Goes to Carolina, the offensive 270 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: line is not great, his play goes down the drain. 271 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 1: Then he ends up with the Rams. I think he 272 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: might be on an offensive line that's as bad or worse. 273 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: You know, that Caroline offensive line was playing some young 274 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: guys was getting better. This group right now is not good. 275 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: And he did not look comfortable at all getting swallowed 276 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: up by this Green Bay Packers pass rush. And he 277 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: didn't look comfortable. And anytime the quarterback is uncomfortable like 278 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 1: bad things are gonna happen. So you can see the 279 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: turnovers to happen, you're gonna see the skinnish playing, the 280 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: inconsistencies when it comes to the passing game. And because 281 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: the Packers were able to rush for and drop seven 282 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 1: into coverage, they were able to kind of make those 283 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: windows tight because Baker Mayfield couldn't set up and deliver 284 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: on time. Uh. The other thing that I think we 285 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: saw from the Rams DJ when you when you don't 286 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: necessarily accumulate enough of that mid level talent, man, it 287 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: really shows up when your stars are out and so 288 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: I'm looking at two two at well playing. I'm looking 289 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: at some of these other guys play, and I mean, 290 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: I would like to say they're nice players, but they're 291 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: not good enough to sustain drives and make enough plays 292 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: to really threaten the defense. And so when you're the 293 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: Rams and you're taking this approach where you're gonna be 294 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: really top heavy with the stars, man, you gotta do 295 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: a really good job of acquiring talent in those mid 296 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: rounds and really undrafted free agents, guys that can legitimate 297 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: play and maybe outplay their drafts us or they're signing status. Yeah. 298 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you see the Green Bay Packers at six 299 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: and eight technically still alive. I think they've won their 300 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: last game of the year. Buck you look at their schedule. 301 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: They are at Miami. I don't see them beating the 302 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins. On the road, they play the Minnesota Vikings, 303 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: who maybe, you know, maybe that's a shot the Minnesota 304 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: don't have a ton to play for with a couple 305 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: of weeks left in the season, but I don't see 306 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: them winning that one. When you look where those two 307 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: teams are right now, and they finish up the final 308 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: week against Detroit, who could be in a win and 309 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: in scenario at that point in time, it's not a 310 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: good football team. Um, and Aaron Rodgers has taken a 311 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: step back. I know made the coup plays last night, 312 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: but this is not the explosive Aaron Rodgers that we're 313 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: used to seeing. So when you look at that, you 314 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: look at this schedule that they have, I think this 315 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: is on its way to a very disappointing six and 316 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: eleven type season. You know, it'd be tough. And I 317 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: think the hard thing for us on the outside is 318 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: we always love our stars, right, we love our superstars. 319 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: We never see them fade. We never want to see 320 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: them kind of decline and did. But this is a 321 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: significant decline that we're seeing from Aaron Rodgers. And if 322 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: all the time kids is up with everybody's start over 323 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: with him, like he's thirty eight years old, he's not 324 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: supposed to be playing you know what I'm saying, Like 325 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: that's not a normal deal to be playing football when 326 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: you're almost forty years old or whatever he is. And 327 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: so that that that's very challenging and difficult until the 328 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers not only changed just style, but embrace 329 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: a changing style on offense, it's always gonna be hard. 330 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: And I think the thing that what happened is if 331 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: the Packers do somehow find their way into the tournament, 332 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: everyone is going to expect a magical bounce Premier and Ron. 333 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: It's not gonna happen. And so if this team is 334 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: going to win, it's gonna be the running game and 335 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: the defense that does it. And right now we don't 336 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: have a enough of a sample size from both of 337 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: those parts of the team to suggest that the Packers 338 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: can rely on those elements to lead them far into 339 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: the postseason if they even make it. Yeah, I don't 340 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: see that happening. I don't see it. Again. I don't 341 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: see him one another game. So I don't think they 342 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: do end up getting into the postseason. On the other 343 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: side of this thing with the Rams, how about that 344 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: pick now, that trade with Stafford with the Detroit Lions. 345 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: As of right now, the Detroit Lions have the number 346 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: four overall pick. So, man, you talk about the uh, 347 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: you know that coming back to get you a little bit. 348 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: The trading picks for stars is great, and you can 349 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: run all the numbers on all those picks in the 350 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: twenties and how it's kind of a little bit of 351 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: a crap shoot in terms of getting impact guys down 352 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: there at the bottom of the first round. You got 353 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: the fourth overall pick. The Detroit Lions have a chance 354 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: to get a real difference maker with that one. I mean, 355 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: what a year for Detroit to be playing as well 356 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: as they're playing, hunting down a playoff spot, and then 357 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: to watch the Rams season completely crater. Yeah, you're gonna 358 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: have a top five pick, uh and a potential playoff team. 359 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: That's a good spot to be in. This is good 360 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: spy to be in. And let's let's just say this, Uh, 361 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: this front office has shown the ability to take advantage 362 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: of those picks. You think about eight and Hudson is 363 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: in coming over being what looks like a start. Jamison 364 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: Williams is already making an impact. He hasn't even really 365 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: played but a couple of games, you know. And so 366 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: now you give them an opportunity to get a top 367 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: five pick uh in a draft that should be uh 368 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: solid when it comes to pass rushers and playmakers. Yeah, 369 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions have an opportunity to put together a 370 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: nice foundation while already having a quarterback in place, so 371 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: they don't have to make the transition of oh, let's 372 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: put the young quarterback in their life through the growing pains. 373 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: They still have Jerry Golf on the contract. They still 374 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: can lean on him while those young foundational pieces they 375 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: have superstar talent really emerge. Man, things are really looking 376 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: up in Motel. Yeah, no, it is. You look at 377 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: the other team that I'm just going through the draft 378 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: order right now is where we stand. The Philadelphia Eagles 379 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 1: right now have the ninth pick from New Orleans from 380 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: that trade in last year's draft to Philly might win 381 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, ended up with the top five, top 382 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: six type pick. Um. So normally we see those teams 383 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: that you're trading future first round picks, you feel like 384 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: you're close. H You don't envision those picks coming back 385 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: to be top ten picks. That changes the outlook of 386 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: those moves that got made in a big way. Yeah. 387 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: It just changing. It changes, And look, that's the gamble. Now. 388 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: I've been one of the guys it's advocated, Hey, give 389 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: me players over picks. But what happens if the players 390 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: on the team don't one, Well, then the picks look 391 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: really good and the picks become prime time picks, and 392 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: those prime time picks can become stars, and so that 393 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: is the consequence of making the move. So when you 394 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: do it, you gotta hope that it plays out and 395 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: the Ramps can cherish their super Bowl. But now you 396 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: wonder how long will it be until they have another 397 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: team that is capable of contending at that level. Because 398 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: we thought this room would be maybe two three years. 399 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: It ended quickly. So now the Detroit lines have an 400 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: opportunity to catch it on some premium picks that may 401 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 1: give them an opportunity to make a nice little run 402 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: at a time. Yeah, I mean, who knows that if 403 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 1: we don't know, if we've seen a trade that's produced 404 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: a super Bowl on each side of the trade, maybe 405 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: maybe we're headed towards that eventually. You know, I don't 406 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:44,959 Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen. It's not gonna happen this year 407 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: for Detroit, but they might be a year or two away. 408 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: The way they've built this team the offensive line. Now 409 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: you're seeing the defensive line pieces that they have in place, 410 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: not just Adan Hutchinson, but James Houston when he's done. 411 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: On the other side, Now they've got extra picks from 412 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: that trade. What if Detroit ends up winning a super 413 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 1: Bowl year or two from now, we could look back 414 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 1: and say, what a trade you talked about when when 415 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: it got the immediacy for the Rams, they get a 416 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: super Bowl because of Stafford, and then long term Detroit 417 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: they're set up to maybe potentially go on their own 418 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: super Bowl run. Could go down as one of the 419 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: most beneficial trades in an f NFL history. A true 420 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: when when there any other takeaways on this game? Buck Uh? 421 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: It was again, We've had such an amazing weekend. I 422 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: couldn't get too fired up about this one last night. 423 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: I don't really have any anything else to add on 424 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: that one, how about you. It was hard for that 425 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: game to live up to what we saw over the weekend. 426 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: We saw so many exciting games, so many fantastic finishes. Yeah, 427 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: it was fine, but after all of that, it was 428 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: a little little debbie down there. It was a little 429 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:41,959 Speaker 1: bit of a letdown compared to some of the other 430 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: games that we saw over the weekend. All right, let's 431 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: just cut it right there. Then, we want to we 432 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: want to get to this next discussion here. We're gonna 433 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: take a break. When we come back. It is National 434 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: signing day for colleges and We've been talking about this 435 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: off the AAR, so we want to have this discussion 436 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: on the air, on the record here about how to 437 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: build a championship roster. Now, if you're a team trying 438 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: to to go win a college up ball national championship 439 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: with the transfer portal kind of changing everything here, how 440 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: do you balance that with recruiting these high school kids. 441 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: We'll give you our thoughts on that right after this break. 442 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: NFL Plus is here, which means, no matter where you are, 443 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: this is how you football. You can stream live local 444 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 1: and primetime games on your phone or tablet, forty five 445 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: minute game replays with NFL Plus Premium, and more. This 446 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: is NFL for every fan. This is football freedom. This 447 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: is your game on the go. Go to Plus dot 448 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: NFL dot com and sign up now. DJ. I'm really 449 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 1: excited for the topic that we're about to tackle because 450 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: you and I always love talking about the team building 451 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: process and so much of the time we talk about 452 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: NFL stuff, But we're both avid college fans. We both 453 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: have skin in the game when it comes to watching 454 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: our favorite college teams kind of make their way of 455 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: the rankings, and so were signing day being upon us. 456 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: I want to kind of talk about the changes in 457 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: the way you build your teams and college particularly using 458 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: the transport the transfer portal, it has been a huge development. 459 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: It has changed the way that guys are going about 460 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: building their rosters. And so we got to talk about it. 461 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: And so if I gave you an opportunity to be 462 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: let's say you're the GM of your favorite collegiate team, 463 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: how would you use the transfer portal to build a 464 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: championship caliber team. Well, I think it's interesting because it 465 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: does change things, but I think there's a lot of 466 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: different strategies of how you go about it. You know, 467 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: to me, I think you need to look at a 468 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: lot of factors where they're planning, you know, the level 469 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: at where they're playing, how many years did they have left, 470 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,959 Speaker 1: what positions uh do they play. I think a lot 471 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: of those things will factor into how you're trying to 472 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: construct and build this roster. Um. You know, we just 473 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: saw as why we're coming on right now Kentucky. They 474 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: end up losing Will Levis, Uh, he goes out into 475 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: the draft um and then they get right into the 476 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: portal and they bring in a quarterback from NC State 477 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: who's very talented. So um, that's a situation where we 478 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: need somebody to come in and play right away. We're 479 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: gonna use the portal. It's a lug and play starter. 480 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: It's an experienced guy um at a you know, in 481 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: a power conference. That's the top of the list. If 482 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: you can get a guy who's experienced and played well 483 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 1: and a Power five program, those are the premier guys 484 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: to come in and play right away when you're losing 485 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,479 Speaker 1: guys to the NFL draft, like somebody like Will Levis. 486 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: But when you get into the decision, I'll hit you 487 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: on this, like, let's look at offensive lineman for example. 488 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: If I've got a chance to get an offensive lineman 489 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: who's played, let's just say the MAC. He's a three 490 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: or four year starter. He's been developed and he's playing 491 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: in the MAC and he's got two years left. Or 492 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: I've got a five star offensive lineman from you know, Alabama, 493 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: Georgia wherever that hasn't been able to get onto the 494 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: football field. But you know he he has that he 495 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: has the heightweight, speed, He was a big time recruit 496 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: coming out of high school. You haven't seen him on 497 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: the field. Where are you on that buck between that decision? 498 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 1: Say they say they each have the same amount of eligibility. 499 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: Ones the five star who hasn't played at Alabama. The 500 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: other one is a three year starter at at Bowling 501 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: Green who has played you know, good football where you 502 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 1: go there. You know, It's funny because, like I still 503 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: believe at every level reps matter, and I'm more partially 504 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: lean to the guy who has played because at least 505 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: I know exactly what I'm getting. Now. It might be 506 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: at a lesser level. I may not be as talented 507 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: as the prospect that we're talking about that was a 508 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,479 Speaker 1: five star, but I have an ability to know exactly 509 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: what I'm getting. I have a resume of his production, 510 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: and at the worst, he's going to perform at the 511 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: level that we saw Matt when he was at a 512 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: mid major conference. Also, if it's a guy that is, 513 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: let's just say he played at a mid major level, 514 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: but he has graduated, and maybe I have two years 515 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 1: to maybe keep him and develop him and do those things. 516 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: I think what you're trying to do is, even though 517 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: you're using the transfer portal to maybe build your team, 518 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: you want to level consistency that allows you also to 519 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: build a program. And the difference between building a team 520 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,959 Speaker 1: is one year, you're thinking about one year and you're 521 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: trying to redo it over the next year. A program, 522 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 1: you're trying to sustain that level of success over time, 523 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: and so if I have guys that have multiple years 524 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: left when they transfer in, it just gives me an 525 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: opportunity to kind of have some of the continuity and 526 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: consistency that I would like as I'm trying to build 527 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: a championship caliber team that is built to last overtime. 528 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: I think with the offensive line, it's fascinating because I 529 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: think you have the luxury now to take some developmental guys, 530 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: some high school kids there maybe two fifty pounds two 531 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: hundred sixty pound athletes that you're gonna kind of build 532 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: up and grow into offensive lineman. You can kind of 533 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 1: have this track of be patient with those guys. Then 534 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: as you're kind of graduating some players, Hey, you know what, 535 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: he's not quite ready. Let's go to the mid majors. 536 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: Let's get a plug and play guy for one or 537 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: two years. But I can still be kind of developing 538 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: these young guys while also getting some ready made guys 539 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: from those mid majors. I think for the offensive line, 540 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense now you're talking about 541 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: white outs if we stay on the offensive side of 542 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: the ball. Jamison Williams is a perfect example of somebody 543 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: who was incredibly talented but was blocked at his position 544 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: at Ohio State, goes to Alabama and completely takes off. 545 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: So with that one, I think the wide receiver position, 546 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: I think I'd be a little more I might be 547 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 1: a little bit more traits oriented. Like, let's go get 548 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: some guys who have a ton of ability. Maybe they've 549 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: just been you know, stuck behind a loaded position group 550 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: at an Ohio State, you know, the Clemson, Alabama and 551 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: Georgia one of those type places. I think I'd be 552 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: more willing to take a shot, take a flyer on 553 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: some of those guys, you know, DJ, I think this 554 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: is unique, right because we've seen a lot of our 555 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: our former colleagues, a lot of buddies who have jumped 556 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 1: down to the collegiate level and they're playing the facto 557 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 1: general manager for these colleges. And the one thing that 558 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 1: I now look and having this conversation with you, uh, 559 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: the college game is more like the NFL than ever 560 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: when it comes to the way that you have to 561 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: structure your front office and the synergy that needs to 562 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: exist between the front office and the coaching staff. I 563 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: think the general manager, even though he doesn't have the 564 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 1: power of the head coach, I think the general manager 565 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,239 Speaker 1: also has to scout his coaches because how good are 566 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: my coaches at developing players? How many of my coaches 567 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: can turn average players and the good players, good players 568 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: and the great players based on the work that they 569 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: do in between the lines. If I don't have great developers, 570 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: but I have great recruiters, then I need more of 571 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: that ready made product, more of the guy that is 572 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,479 Speaker 1: already coming in with five star ability, and I can 573 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: throw them out there and just let the talent overwhelm 574 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: the opposition. But I do believe the general manager his 575 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: role now is very similar to what we're doing at 576 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: the NFL level, where you're mixing in free agent signings 577 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: with draft picks and you're trying to build a team 578 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 1: that has a mix of both. Where I got the 579 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: young guys that are developing for the future, while I 580 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: have my right now guys who can make contributions in 581 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: the immediacy, and so it's it's a different hustle and 582 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: depending upon where you're at. Um you know, if you're 583 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: a Texas state, you may not be getting the same 584 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: kind of players at Texas and TCU. Are we just 585 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 1: open for business for all transfers? And does my head 586 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: coach have the ability to reset and re establish the 587 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 1: culture each year with a transient program. There are a 588 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: lot of factors when it comes to this, and it's 589 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: not just a decision that's made in a silo. I 590 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: think everybody has to be on board. Administrators at the 591 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: highest level, the head coach, the general manager. How you 592 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: build this out is fascinating, and you have to have 593 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: a clear understanding of where you are in terms of 594 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: how we're going to build a team for success to 595 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: be able to pull this all. Do you think we 596 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: ever get to a point where we actually have feeder programs, 597 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: like almost like a var scene in JV where you 598 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: have a relationship and you know, I'll use this one 599 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: just because it's in the same statement. Say you have 600 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: a South Alabama and Alabama, right, so they have a 601 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 1: relationship and it might be something where Alabama just goes 602 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: to them and says, hey, look with our guys that 603 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: can't get on the field, that need to play in 604 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: order to get evaluated, to get a chance to play 605 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: in the NFL. They're gonna be talented kids that can't 606 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: get on the field for us. We're gonna try and 607 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: guide them and funnel them to you. But you know, 608 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: once every three years, you're probably gonna have a player 609 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 1: who ends up being a little bit better than South 610 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: Alabama and we're gonna end up pulling him. But we're 611 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna be a two way street. We're gonna 612 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 1: be sending you players, we're gonna end up plucking some 613 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: of yours. And maybe there's even some type of a 614 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: you know, a financial thing that could work on between 615 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: those programs where it's headed. I don't know that that's 616 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: the craziest thing ever. Uh DJ, You know what you 617 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 1: sound like. You sound like an old high school program 618 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: that has a couple of middle schools that feed into it. 619 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 1: So where I grew up, Millbrook High we had East 620 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: Millbrook and West Millbrook. And so what you would do 621 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 1: my old coach, Coach Smith, he would give both of 622 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 1: those programs the playbook. Right, they run our plays, they 623 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 1: run all that stuff. Everyone's being developed in the system. 624 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: And so now you're talking about in Alabama, you've got 625 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: South Alabama, North Alabama, You've got some other schools, like, hey, 626 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: we'll put a couple over here from you, a couple 627 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: over here for you. We'll do some of these things. 628 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: You developed the guys and we came back. It is 629 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: a very sensible thing because you do wonder, Hey, if 630 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: I'm one of those programs, and no disrespect to like, 631 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: uh South Alabama, but if I am one of those programs, 632 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: am I willing to take on a player for two 633 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: years knowing, Hey, I'm gonna lose him, but take advantage 634 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: of the town because it might be superior to what 635 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: I would currently have. You do wonder and you also 636 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: want to dj You know how we see assistance leave 637 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: from like in Alabama and go elsewhere. Maybe a former 638 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: assistant is more willing to do that. Uh the coach 639 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: up at Marshall spent a lot of time at Alabama. 640 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: Maybe he's more willing to take on some of those 641 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: players and say, Okay, yeah, I coach, I'll take him 642 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: off for a little bit and then send it back 643 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: up there. He'll be a better player because of it. Yeah, 644 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: there's a lot of things to consider when it comes 645 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: to that kind of stuff. Yeah, it's gonna be wild man. 646 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: But I mean you can. We saw a Michigan State 647 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: uh the year before with all those transfers and including 648 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker, and they had an unbelievable year. Lincoln Riley 649 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: this year showed, I mean, obviously got the Heisman Trophy winner, 650 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: came over, Caleb Williams. He kind of helped change that 651 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: thing around massive amounts of transfers. And now, you know, 652 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: I think it's you know, I think Clemson. I think 653 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: Dabbo is one who had said I will never take 654 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: a transfer. He's gonna have to alter that. Thinking the 655 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: way this is headed Buck. But as eventually you're gonna 656 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: end up having some players leave and you're not just 657 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: gonna be able to replace them with high school kids. 658 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: So I'm curiously how long that how long that can last? Yeah, 659 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: it's funny because DJ takes complete buying from the academic institution. 660 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: I was reading something about Stanford last night, and Stanford 661 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: doesn't really get into the trans reporter because it's hard 662 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: for them to get transfers into the school period just 663 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: as students. And so now, how do you handle that 664 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: part of it when you're an institution that has always 665 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: frowned upon taking transfers in you wanted homegrown products amongst 666 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: your student body. Does that change for your athletic programs 667 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: where other academic institutions are more willing to take in transfers? 668 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: And how do those things the credits and all that, 669 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: How does that line up so you're still on track 670 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: to get your degree and all that other stuff. Is 671 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: it's different? Um. I think the one thing that I 672 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: encourage all of the players, man, you have more options 673 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: when you go in there, and you really kind of 674 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: bust your tail to put yourself in a position to graduate, 675 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: because man, the option are plentiful. If you're able to 676 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: be a grad transfer with some years of eligibility, you 677 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: might be able to get into some of those other 678 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: schools there were off limits when it comes to the 679 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: regular transfer fort is some one of my final thoughts 680 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: on this thing. Do you think we get to the 681 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: point where, you know, on the NFL side, you have 682 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: your college scouts would actually live in different regions of 683 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,959 Speaker 1: the country and they're in charge of we we did 684 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: the job. You're in charge of forty schools. Are these 685 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: are these big time, big time programs going to start 686 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: having analysts that are living in you know, different parts 687 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: of the country and going to these games and actually 688 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: scouting these players even though they're on another roster in 689 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: real time. I don't imagine you could wear your your 690 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: your official school gear from that place. But you know, 691 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: just in terms of maybe a little on the slide, like, hey, 692 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: we get to take Now, let's let's build the staff 693 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: like a legit scouting staff and go scout every single 694 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: college out there for potential guys without getting people in trouble. 695 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: I certainly believe that there are enough consultants out there 696 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: they are available to go to some of these games 697 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: and see it in DJ. Is not only that, but 698 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: like if you're talking about it, because we're talking about 699 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: Phineus guys stuff, imagine being hid as a consultant to 700 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: not only do what we do on the West, goes 701 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: for these college games, but hey, you know what St. John's, 702 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: Bosco and Mode to Day are playing. Maybe I go 703 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: check that out too, Maybe I can give you another 704 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: set of high and all some of these prize prospects 705 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: that are coming out. There may be something to it. Now, 706 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: it kind of the bunks the amateurism thing that we 707 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: talked about in college football. But if we're talking about 708 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: college football being big business. There is a different way 709 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: of thinking about putting your business model together where you 710 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: can make recruiting, uh more like what we do when 711 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: it comes to scouting at the NFL level. Yeah, it's fascinating. 712 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: How are you going to construct these rosters? And again 713 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: we've got National sign Day coming up tomorrow. Um, it's 714 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: not as much buzz about it anymore because that might 715 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: not be the best way to improve your roster. Um. 716 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: You know, you get a chance to go out and 717 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: get these ready made college kids. Maybe it's preferable to 718 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: get in, you know, seventeen eighteen year olds and hoping 719 00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: they're gonna come in. We saw with Texas A and 720 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: M last year signed everybody they're terrible. Um, they needed 721 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: some better veteran players, so and everybody fascinating time. Yeah, 722 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: and a bunch of them left and a bunch of 723 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: them already gone. Absolutely right, all right, anything else you 724 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: want to have before we get out of here? Buck, 725 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: You know, I love those kinds of disgusts. I can't 726 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: wait though, because I know in my mintioned I have 727 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people talking about, how are you gonna 728 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: dismiss South Alabama like that? What are you talking about? 729 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: Like we'll get hit the jack Rabbit fans are gonna 730 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: be upset. Jaguars, Jaguars, jaguars. Thank you very much. You 731 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: could have got me a real jars. You're right, You're right, 732 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: all right. That's gonna do it for us today. I 733 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: appreciate you guys hanging with us. We'll be back one 734 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: more episode this week as we head towards Christmas in 735 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: the holiday season. Hope you guys are having a wonderful 736 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: time with your family and friends. We'll see you next time. 737 00:33:44,880 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: Right here, I'll moving the sticks. You you are can 738 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: get