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Speaker 1: there war room for in center news and draft analysis

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Speaker 1: Star in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys Selecte and now your hosts

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Speaker 1: Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us. Well, we

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Speaker 1: welcome you to the draft show here in the SWBC

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Speaker 1: Mortgage Studios. We're down one scout today. We had some

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Speaker 1: mechanical issues with Dame Burglar, so we're gonna miss him today.

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Speaker 1: David Hellman and I will carry on with you this

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Speaker 1: uh this morning and make do right, make do. We've

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Speaker 1: got a couple of things that we can talk about today,

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Speaker 1: mainly with what's going on with the wide receiver position.

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Speaker 1: We've hinted that there was a possibility that the stay

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Speaker 1: would come when they were released, as Brian and now

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Speaker 1: you as that transfers into another area of reality. Now

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Speaker 1: it's reality now, and you know all the things that

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Speaker 1: we've talked about in round tables and speculations and things

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Speaker 1: like that, it's it is reality. And so David, I

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Speaker 1: want to get into these wide receivers this morning, and

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Speaker 1: everybody else, Yeah, and and and I want to get in.

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Speaker 1: I think we've talked about wide receivers plenty on this

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Speaker 1: on this program. That's can I just I mean and

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Speaker 1: I get I mean, trust me, I get it. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know you're talking about one of the best receivers

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Speaker 1: you know, face of the franchise for the last eight

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Speaker 1: at what seems like the number of people who were

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Speaker 1: caught off guard by this. Um. It shouldn't have I know.

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Speaker 1: And that's that's my point. Is I feel like, and no, UM,

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to say I told you so, because

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Speaker 1: I think most of us there was always an air

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Speaker 1: know for sure, but this timeline David, Yeah, yeah, timeline,

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Speaker 1: the way the fact that they didn't talk to Dez

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Speaker 1: I can talking to Dez Bryant. He was like, they haven't,

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Speaker 1: They've been spoken to me. My point is, like Hindsight's

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty, I definitely wasn't and you, to be fair,

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Speaker 1: he's gone, you went very firm. Yeah, And I wasn't

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Speaker 1: quite ready to do that, but I wasn't surprised. And

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Speaker 1: I would hope that nobody that listens to this show

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Speaker 1: was either which you know people, I would hope that

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Speaker 1: it's people who don't really follow this thing as closely

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Speaker 1: as we do. Sure they're like, well, what does that

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Speaker 1: change at wide receiver? What they got to pick at

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Speaker 1: nineteen that like, no, they don't very reactionary fan base. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think that's just people in general, like nothing has changed,

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Speaker 1: because if you're doing this the right way, you've been

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Speaker 1: bracing for this possibility since February. We've talked about this

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Speaker 1: on the Draft Show. The fact that that of guys

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Speaker 1: they brought in for thirty visits, you know, two potential

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Speaker 1: We talked about they looked at every receiver worth looking at.

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Speaker 1: They had private workouts with with Sutton, They've had workouts

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Speaker 1: with Kirk, They've done everything in there. They went down

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Speaker 1: tried to figure out this you should have seen, really

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Speaker 1: David Hellman, Yeah, does this mean, though you absolutely have

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Speaker 1: to draft a wide receiver at nineteen. No, I don't

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Speaker 1: think so either, not even I'm glad you said that,

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Speaker 1: And that's I mean, it's if you listen to this show.

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Speaker 1: It's well documented how much I like DJ Moore, But

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Speaker 1: it's looney tunes to say that you got a draft

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Speaker 1: don't buy it. And that's not the way that they've

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Speaker 1: And it was you know the current Cowboys receivers And

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Speaker 1: what he could bring to your receiver group. But if

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Speaker 1: what you just explained, because they're there run first team,

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Speaker 1: you just wait until you wait until fifty and go

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Speaker 1: something we need here? Yeah? Absolutely, he came in here

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Speaker 1: size is a no. Yes is what he's I mean,

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Speaker 1: favorite player in the draft. But you could easily make

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Speaker 1: and you're less interested in a guy like a Calvin

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Speaker 1: now don't really have so much. Yeah. I think though

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Speaker 1: a big receiver, though it's not like he's a Cole

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Speaker 1: think he could play the X. I think that Jacksonville,

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Speaker 1: I think that was just more out of necessity for

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I looking more at an X. I don't

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Speaker 1: think they're looking for a guy that they can compliment

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Speaker 1: with Hearns, then you can move in, you can move

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Speaker 1: into Dj Moore to play the X. I think Ridley

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Speaker 1: would be a little bit more. Okay. Then it's to

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Speaker 1: your theory or the question of hey, they went for

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Speaker 1: Let's Sutton runs four five five. He didn't run again

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Speaker 1: in his pro day, right, that's about what he is.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you do see some separation, but he is

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Speaker 1: looking for that speed, I think Thompson's going to be

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Speaker 1: the speed here. Yeah. I think that's the guy that's

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Speaker 1: going to be the speed down the field guy. And

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Speaker 1: then the quickness with Beasley, I think. But to look

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Speaker 1: at just to say okay, we're only looking at X's Now,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's I don't think that's necessarily the

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Speaker 1: mean I think you'd want him on the move as well.

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Speaker 1: Where does the big homie Noah Brown factor into all that?

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Speaker 1: For see? Now, this is this is where, this is

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Speaker 1: on the receivers. The thing about I think with Noah Brown.

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Speaker 1: Noah Brown and from all I've seen standing up and

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Speaker 1: one of them, never misses, He's always there. I know.

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Speaker 1: Ah Brown and Ryan Switzer have they figured it out.

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Speaker 1: They figured out that this Lancellor, they figured out though

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Speaker 1: this wide receiver thing could be a little bit of

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Speaker 1: be here, work out, be ready, have a great training camp,

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Speaker 1: make this football team be productive, keep going. You know

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Speaker 1: that's where these guys. So, yeah, I'm not sleeping on

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Speaker 1: Noah Brown at all. I'm always I'm reluctant to put

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Speaker 1: a ton of faith into a seventh round draft pick.

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Speaker 1: Should Okay, But but after a year of being here, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: he You now have an idea of like, Okay, this

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Speaker 1: is what he did for me, can he do more? Sure?

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Speaker 1: You throw on the Ohio State game of his last

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Speaker 1: round pick. There's every reason to be optimistic that Noah

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Speaker 1: Brown can develop into badass X type receiver. Absolutely, but

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Speaker 1: I'm just not that's that's perhap Yeah, yeah, um, okay,

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Speaker 1: I mean, as you might imagine, a lot of wide

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Speaker 1: world DAK friendly. Which one of these guys strikes you

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Speaker 1: catch radius. Give me the guy that's gonna snatch the

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Speaker 1: ball behind him over his head. Low Miller's that type

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Speaker 1: of guy. Yeah, you know, I've seen I've seen I've

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Speaker 1: seen more Dj Moore catch up eight different quarterbacks, all

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Speaker 1: kinds of things going on. I mean, he makes some

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Speaker 1: circus catches too. Give me the guy though you need,

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Speaker 1: You need the guy that could separate because he obviously

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Speaker 1: guy that could separate. Give me the guy that could

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Speaker 1: finish the play with the catch. Give me the guy

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Speaker 1: that's got some run after catch. Yeah, you know, the

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Speaker 1: it gonna be one of those things that you're gonna learn.

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Speaker 1: Is he gonna have to learn? Yeah. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: you know, hey, give me the guy that can from

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Speaker 1: he gets open, finds a way, find some space, give

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Speaker 1: it up for the quarterback finish the play. And I

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Speaker 1: a very good all around receiver, but he struggled last

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Speaker 1: polished receiver who used that to make up for non

635
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: elite athletics. Yeah, I mean you see that work all

636
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: over the league. Um looking down here at I'm looking

637
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: down here to hit me, No, just periscope. People are like,

638
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: you need to address the coaching situation here. I think

639
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: we address the coaching situation all the time on this show,

640
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: which on this show, on all our shows, and I

641
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: try and fire the guy every year. I mean, please, folks,

642
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: don't leave the coaching thing along. Were they more? They're

643
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: they're like, you know, why why the problems? You know, Yeah,

644
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: it's coaching. Yeah, we try, we talk about that. People

645
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: are saying, you should address the coaching situation. You know,

646
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: he's got it. There'll be a new receivers coach here,

647
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: you know, there'll be some new ideas. No, they're just

648
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: making comments. They don't. They're they're tired of blaming the players.

649
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: Periscope comments are my favorite. Yeah, yeah, that's that's I mean,

650
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: there we go. Yeah, need to separate the head coach

651
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: from the team, much bigger concern, Rob. Okay, yeah, we

652
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: get you. Wow, I've tried. Yeah, let's not act like

653
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: I haven't. So Rob, you can kind of walk into

654
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: the draft now you've you've had your say, I've got

655
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: you out there. That is a word wild conversation in

656
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: the Sinuary, December and January. Sure it is. If they

657
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: don't win games, then Rob, you'll get your wish on

658
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: April sixteenth. If you're absolutely whining about that, I don't

659
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: know what to tell you. Yeah, exactly. We'll see what

660
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: happens this coming season. Okay, go ahead, I'm starting a

661
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: new reptation. So you're good. They caught my eye there,

662
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: you know. And I feel like we talk about the

663
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,479
Speaker 1: coaching situation a lot on all our platforms. Yeah, we do.

664
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: We do. It's not some of these things that like, oh,

665
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: because Jerry Jones signs our Chucks, you guys can't talk.

666
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: That's such bs. Yeah, it is such bs. Absolutely yep.

667
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: Um Okay, So here's and I mean, okay, wide receiver,

668
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:38,479
Speaker 1: but now you're looking linebacker, wide receiver and then a

669
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: lot of people and I think they're right. Offensive guard

670
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: is another thing you gotta consider. So Chad says, you know,

671
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: between wide receiver and guard, where do you get the

672
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: better value at nineteen? And where do you get the

673
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: better value at fifty? And the guard thing, the guard

674
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: thing at fifty is gonna not be as I think

675
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: you would have to trade up. I just see In

676
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: and Hernandez being late ones, early twos if we not

677
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: and we we beat winning Hernandez into the ground in

678
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,760
Speaker 1: February early we did because and now we're not talking

679
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: about it at all. Yeah, is that a mistake. No,

680
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 1: I think that. I think that they're still in play.

681
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 1: I think a guard. They didn't visit either one. Yeah

682
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,720
Speaker 1: but this, but but they visited a guy like Daniels. Yeah,

683
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: they visited He could be like a guard center or

684
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: center guard combination guy. This team also has a relationship

685
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: with Hernandez. I mean, like they do him, they do well,

686
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: So they do but well and okay, well let's talk

687
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: about about that. I mean, can this team get away

688
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 1: with not drafting a guard until day three, Well, obviously

689
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: feel pretty good about Martin Marcus Martin, or or feel

690
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: pretty good that they're gonna move Vile College. That's that

691
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: to me. Dave is the ultimate thing. Did you see

692
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: Did you see his Instagram post last night? You probably

693
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 1: probably not what happened on a millennial like me. He

694
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: just he posted a photo of himself and he's like,

695
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: I can't wait to get back to work. But he

696
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: put hashtag right side. Yeah, and he's I mean, it's

697
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: not up to Collins at the end of the day,

698
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: but I know where he wants to be. Yeah, he's

699
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: figured things out on that right side. I don't move

700
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: Vile Colins now that that's what this team does. I know,

701
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: they move guys around. And then like again, we go

702
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: back to forty eight games of Byron Jones. Hey, Byron,

703
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: by the way, We're gonna move you the corner now,

704
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: you know, and maybe maybe Christi Shard has a better

705
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: plan for him. Maybe it's the secondary. You'll see some

706
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: things differently here with this with this group, may you know,

707
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: I mean as the way they play, the concepts, how

708
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: they attack people. Let's not Rob Mary Nolly can learn

709
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: some things. He could definitely learn some things from Christier

710
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: Shard especially. I mean, yeah, a former defensive coordinator on

711
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: his staff absolutely is like a young buck. Absolutely absolutely. Um.

712
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: I really like this question from Eric. It's really more

713
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: just about scouting in general than any specific player. But

714
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: he wants to know how many games of tape do

715
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: you need to watch to get a player? And then, yeah,

716
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: compare Obviously you're trying to get as many guys as possible,

717
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: you're doing it for a podcast. Compare what you do

718
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: now to what you did then. Well, back then in

719
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: two thousand and five, when I was lasting in a

720
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 1: draft room, in a scattering room, you had beta tapes, sape.

721
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: She just popped the tape into the and so you

722
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: had games. He's just wall of beta tapes and you

723
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: went and okay, let's grab the Florida State Miami game.

724
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: Boom pop it in. Nowadays, with the way with the

725
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: DV sport and the way they have things cut up

726
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: for us, I mean I could physically go in and

727
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,439
Speaker 1: watch every third down throw that Josh Allen made, right

728
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: from from the first throw to the last throw. I

729
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: could say, okay, I could program and say show me

730
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: all his intercepts, show me show me all his interceptions,

731
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: show me all his touchdown passes. Yeah, when we want. Yeah,

732
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: that's how we watch it. Oh, we're watching tape and

733
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: it's just one crappy play after the next one, like,

734
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: oh my god, this guy's terrible, and you realize that

735
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: it's all lumped together. Yeah, then you get to the

736
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 1: good plays and you're like, oh, this guy never does

737
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 1: anything wrong. They had they had it now to the

738
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: point where they could break plays down to like for

739
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman run pass. You know, they could break

740
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: it down to pass sets. They could break it down

741
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: to down a distance. They could. It's so much different

742
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: than when I was. But to feel good about a player,

743
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 1: like I say, when they cut up a player here

744
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: and put it in that machine, I could watch a

745
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: wide receiver and it's thirteen games, right, you know it's

746
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 1: or you know some of the case of Ridley you're playing,

747
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: you got playoff games. You could even go to well,

748
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: we and we have talked to scouts though that's saying

749
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: you can't undervalue that. You can't forget the value of

750
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: watching a full game of tape, not at all. How

751
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: many how many games usually four per per player. Yeah,

752
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 1: when you sit down back again back in the day

753
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: and then in the nineties and early two thousands, you

754
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 1: would sit down and you would you would you would

755
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,720
Speaker 1: find four really good games of a guy. You always

756
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: want to see him against good competition. You know, you

757
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: would skip through some. You know, you would skip through

758
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: some if a team had a really good set of

759
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: wide receivers and you're watching a corner, that's what you

760
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: try and do. You try and watch him. I was

761
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: watching today. I was watching Boseman, the center from Alabama. Yeah,

762
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: and he was playing in the in the National Championship game,

763
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: and I was watching him trying block Roquant Smith. That

764
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: sounds fun and you know, and he you know, if

765
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: he was getting him one at it every four times,

766
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, that's a pretty good day right there.

767
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that usually four games, if you're

768
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: just doing straight, straight tape, is what you would do.

769
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: You made me do this in the first segment, So

770
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna return the favor Dylan wants us to compare

771
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: Rashaan Evans and Leyton vander esh and say, two of

772
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: the definite favorites to be the pick at number nineteen.

773
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: Just what are you getting in each of them? What

774
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: does one do that the other doesn't do as well. Yeah,

775
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at my notes for Rashaun Evans, and

776
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: if he gave me a choice of one over the other,

777
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Evans. Okay, So I'm gonna take And

778
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 1: I think that with Evans, and this is a square player,

779
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: and I mean squaring the way the way he plays

780
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: along the line of scrimmage. He finds his way to

781
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,919
Speaker 1: the ball. He plays off blocks. He sometimes he'll guess

782
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: a little bit, not as much as what we saw

783
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: with our guy at at the University of Texas that

784
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: tends to guests at linebacker Malik Malik. But but he

785
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: does have quick reactions. He can work through the cracks

786
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: and the gaps. He'll fall back inside to make tackles.

787
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: He's not afraid to step up and take on blockers.

788
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: He's a physical player. I think that's the biggest difference

789
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: between him and Vanderish. I think this guy is I

790
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: think Evans is a much more physical player. I think Vanderish,

791
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: for his size, relies more on his athletic ability to

792
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: get sideline to sideline to kind of avoid blocks. Danes right,

793
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: you watch the Oregon game Oregon in block. But Oregan's

794
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: got one player Crosby the offensive tackle. You know everybody

795
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: else's can't block. Yeah, you know that's why the coach

796
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: left to go to Florida State. I mean it's a

797
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: good job, but still, you know you're in a situation

798
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: right now where you know Vanderish, I'm watching him and

799
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,439
Speaker 1: he's just running past guys. Guys aren't even be getting

800
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 1: second level blocks on him. So I think that's the really,

801
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 1: really biggest the difference I like to evans I think

802
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: he will give himself up to help a teammate, Like

803
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: he will give himself up on a block, take on

804
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: two blocks. So some one of his teammates, you know,

805
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 1: Mica Fitzpatrick or somebody, can come up and make a tackle.

806
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: He will. He will do that. So I think he's

807
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 1: got a really good concept of that. Like Vanderesh, though

808
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: he can cover some ground. I just like the physicality

809
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: of him more than I do Vanderish. That's the way

810
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: I kind of say that is the one thing I

811
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: love about evans Y. He just brings the thunder. Oh

812
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: he just keeps. He attacks, He attacks, he attacks, and

813
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: he's he's physical. He hits and like I say, Vanderesh

814
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: tends to get when he is in like position to

815
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: take on Blox, he will kind of his head will

816
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: go down. He will go down like his shoulders. His

817
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: head goes down, and then he kind of misses, you know,

818
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: he kind of a miss miss taken on the block

819
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: and then it kind of affects him on the tackle.

820
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: Vanderish can cover. Though. Vanderesh can cover. His athletic to cover,

821
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: he can run. He is the sideline to online player.

822
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: Don't compare him to Bobby Carpenter, though I know some

823
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: people out there they're thinking because he's a white linebacker,

824
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: he's Bobby Carpenter. He's not Bobby Carpenter. He's a much

825
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,439
Speaker 1: better player, much better athlete than Bobby Carpenter. How much

826
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 1: more time we got, I'll tell you what one more

827
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 1: and then we will. How about I promise oft the

828
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 1: board here? I promised to go off the board. Uh

829
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: let's see here, everybody's on board with Jack SINCHI, by

830
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: the way, that's something. Yeah, fire question real quick. The

831
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: next question I see here on Oh boy, let's see. Yeah,

832
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: vander Esh gets lost in the trash. I don't always

833
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: see that, you know, I don't, But anyway. Okay, well,

834
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: we gotta go to break. I didn't get a question,

835
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: FeAs a little bit. There's something I want to talk

836
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: about on the other side. Okay, we're not to tease it.

837
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: Then what do you got. Well, let's let's address the

838
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: elephant in the room created by this des okay situation.

839
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,280
Speaker 1: We'll do that next. Cowboys fans know that the second

840
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: best of anything simply won't cut it, and your skincare

841
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: should be no different. A long time locker room favored

842
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: of the players and the official men's skincare brand of

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Speaker 1: the room up, that elephant residing in the Great Northwest,

904
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: the elephant that wears teal and navy blue. You're yeah,

905
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 1: whatever those damn colors are. I don't know. Um, I'll

906
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Speaker 1: get I mean, okay, is this why you made this move?

907
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're freeing up money to do

908
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: this or you fear you have money to go All right,

909
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: let's let's let's bring it and let's tie it into

910
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Speaker 1: the draft. Are you willing to again? I am not

911
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 1: John Schneider, my my long time buddy, an intern, former intern.

912
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: He is not getting anything more than my fiftieth pick.

913
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: That's it. I'm not going to give him any more

914
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,919
Speaker 1: than fifty. And I think to get this guy done,

915
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: that's a great way to set this up, because I

916
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: think you're making a mistake if you think that that's

917
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: what this means. You're like, oh, they cut that you

918
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: were going here? Yeah, I like it, I like it. Yeah, Yeah,

919
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: you're making a mistake if you think that. They're just like, yeah,

920
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: this is what we're doing. We're freeing up some space.

921
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: We're going after Earl. Yeah. But again, that's kind of

922
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: the MLA. This team is. You make moves, free you

923
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: up to be as flexible as possible in the draft,

924
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: right right, Well, you got three picks in the first

925
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: two days. You got way more cap space than you

926
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: used to. You know, this is just me supposing, but

927
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: Seattle is probably asking for a lot right now. They

928
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: do not have a second or a third round. Maybe

929
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 1: when that clock starts ticking on Thursday or Friday, all

930
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: of a sudden, that price becomes a little more negotiable. Right,

931
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Speaker 1: And again, I have no idea if this is going

932
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Speaker 1: to happen. If I was a betting man, I would

933
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Speaker 1: say no way, I really, I don't think so. If

934
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Speaker 1: I had to guess, I would say no. But it

935
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: is not like a week ago it was not possible.

936
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Speaker 1: I don't think you can't, Like you can't give up

937
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: what you'd have to give to get him and pay

938
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Speaker 1: him and manage all those salaries. Yeah, it is possible

939
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Speaker 1: now it is. It's totally possible now it is. Will

940
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: it happen? I doubt it. But maybe you call him

941
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Speaker 1: on Thursday or Friday and have a little chat and

942
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Speaker 1: see how they I talked to him Thursday morning for

943
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Speaker 1: the day the morning the draft. You would I would

944
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: I thought you said you did talk to him. No, No,

945
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Speaker 1: I would tell me more. If I was the Cowboys, Yeah,

946
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 1: I'd call John Snyder Thursday morning, I said, you've changed

947
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,720
Speaker 1: your mind on that guy. I'd call him again Friday morning,

948
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Speaker 1: Oh sure, and say, yeah, you're not going to pick

949
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Speaker 1: tonight unless you want to do to do some business. Yea.

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Speaker 1: So well, that's the thing about it, too, is he's

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Speaker 1: got to figure out that he's got to look at

952
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Speaker 1: the situation, say, he's probably not going to get role

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Speaker 1: Thomas back, and he's dismantling that defense one piece at

954
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Speaker 1: a time. Is what he's doing. Would you give you

955
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Speaker 1: would not give up fifty and eighty one? Nope? What

956
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: about fifty and one sixteen? Nope? Fifty and one ninety

957
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 1: two nope? Really seriously, seriously, I would give up fifty.

958
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: I would give up fifty and one thirty seven. No

959
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: reason too, Okay, no reason too. He's the one, He's

960
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: the one all pro well. Would let me ask you this,

961
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: would you would you give up eighty one on a

962
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 1: one year rental? Yes? Only eighty one? Yeah, that's what

963
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But I would I would give up fifty

964
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 1: and a fourth with the nah, I would not sure,

965
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 1: I would do it. I would do it, I know what,

966
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: because he's the one. You've got the leverage here. He

967
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 1: knows he's not going to resign the guy you've got

968
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: the leverage. But it like, you know what's if you

969
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: if you don't you know what, if you don't want them,

970
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: if you don't want my pick, I'll go draft a player.

971
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: I just scared money. Don't make money. That's the cliche

972
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: I was trying to use. Yeah, I don't, I don't.

973
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: I'm not sing. You know what. Let me let me

974
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: be honest with you. We gave Seattle two first round picks,

975
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 1: one time for a player they owe the Cowboys. That's

976
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: not how this works. Oh, it should be none if

977
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: the football gods, Oh, Jerry Garry and Stephen Jones are

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Speaker 1: the only people on either side who are still around

979
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Speaker 1: to be part of it. I'm here. Oh I remember

980
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: when he said he two ones. I almost I threw

981
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Speaker 1: up in my mouth. You're not in the room where

982
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: it happens, John Hamilton, John Mike Holmgren told me he said, Hey,

983
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Speaker 1: I only asked for the one. I only ask for

984
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 1: the one first one. I some I severely doubt that

985
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 1: this happens. But you know, okay, but but but all

986
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: all spring, I've kind of rolled my eyes, like, sure,

987
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 1: why are we talking about this? But it's I'm not

988
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: rolling my eyes anymore. You're trying to get a Seattle

989
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: type of a scheme in the secondary with players, you know,

990
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: moving byron, join whatever you have to do. Why not

991
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: go get the guy that could play free safety, that

992
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: understands it to explain it to those young kids better

993
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: than anybody. If you can get Seattle to play ball,

994
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: I think it's it's a good idea. Probably not good

995
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: talking about a guy in or contract this way. But yeah,

996
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: we're it's all speculation. Literally. I was going to talk

997
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: about it on Twitter on the twenty. Yeah, and I

998
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Speaker 1: couldn't assign it to one guy because so many people

999
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Speaker 1: out know. They wanted on on periscope too, They were

1000
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: asking about that. But to them, I say to you, yeah,

1001
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Speaker 1: I don't know. If I'm on camera right now pointing

1002
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Speaker 1: right at you. Yeah, there we go. You. Yeah, if

1003
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: you're expecting it to happen, you're making a mistake. Yeah,

1004
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: but it is in the realm of we've talked about

1005
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: it now, it's plausible. Yeah, it's plausible. Absolutely, it's it's plausible.

1006
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: So that's how I feel. I don't give up more

1007
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Speaker 1: than I have to, Dave, because I don't feel I

1008
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: have to. I feel like a second round pick is

1009
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 1: more than the fair for a thirty year old safety

1010
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna have to pay fifty for Earl. I

1011
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: know we've definitely we've talked about going fifty up to

1012
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: go get with somebody maybe better. I know we've had

1013
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: this exact conversation, but I forgot your answer. Fifty for

1014
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: Earl or nineteen and fifty for Darwin James or Roquan

1015
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 1: whatever I like you, like Smith, Smith or James is

1016
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: the one I'm trading up for. You like you, you

1017
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,280
Speaker 1: always want the younger guy. And I you know, fifty

1018
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 1: fifty for the linebacker would be good for me. Fifty

1019
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 1: for the safety would be good for me. Yeah, I'm

1020
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: just trying to say. I'm just trying to say, though,

1021
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: if you want fans out there to be back on

1022
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: board with what you're trying to do in this front office,

1023
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: oh boy, you go make this move. I mean, not

1024
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: that they not that they care what we think. That

1025
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: I mean I was about to say, but that is

1026
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: on out of the way to let us know how

1027
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: much they don't care what we Well, no, that's a thing.

1028
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: Oh no, absolutely. But see that's what I'm saying though,

1029
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: that you could you say, hey, we had to take

1030
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: Dez's money to go do this right. Like I've said

1031
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: all spring long, that you're a You're not a better

1032
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: team with Dez Bryant off the roster, Bright, but with

1033
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: Alan Hearns on the roster, Das off the roster, and

1034
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 1: he who must not be named he must not be

1035
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 1: named yet on the roster. I'm sure. Yeah, you're cooking

1036
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 1: with gas you might, and you'd still have nine other

1037
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: picks to do this stuff with. I just worry about

1038
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: going up in this draft now, David, Why because I

1039
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: think these I think the quarterback situation is still so murky.

1040
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: You know, where's where's it gonna you know what, what's

1041
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 1: the price going to be? It's somebody gonna hold me

1042
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: up for a two and a four to get up

1043
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: in there. You know. Yeah, I've done this, I've done

1044
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: all those studies. If I want to go to San

1045
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: Francisco at two and a four, I want to go

1046
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,760
Speaker 1: to Oakley at ten two and five. There's there's there's

1047
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: your you know, there's your having to give up multiple

1048
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: picks and then and you know, I see, to me,

1049
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: that's worth it more so than paying a giving it

1050
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: for a thirty year old safety. Yeah, that's where I

1051
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Speaker 1: could stomach given to two and a four to San

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Speaker 1: Francisco if I knew I was gonna get Quand Smith

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Speaker 1: or Derwin James. Yeah, but I hear you, you know

1054
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Speaker 1: with with a thirty year old safety that I'm gonna

1055
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Speaker 1: have to really pay. Yeah, John take my fifty police.

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Speaker 1: I know I said it at the top of the show.

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Speaker 1: I mean nothing that happened with Dez should drastically alter

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Speaker 1: their their their strategy. But does this team do you

1059
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 1: think this team hasn't has so many pressing needs that

1060
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: they can't afford to trade up, Like between you want

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00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: to find a receiver week that's obvious. You need a

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00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: linebacker who can play right away, and you probably at

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00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: least want a guard who can compete with the guys

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00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: that are here for that starting staff. Is that well?

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Speaker 1: I wonder if this is a big smoke screen not

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Speaker 1: bringing in any guards, but they put in those tackles.

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Speaker 1: They brought in mcclinchey and Miller, which tells me that

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Speaker 1: they would consider are moving Lyle Collins that they drafted mcclinchy.

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Speaker 1: They brought in, didn't they brought in like a mid

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Speaker 1: some mid round guard type guys, didn't they Washington State kid? Yeah? Madison,

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Speaker 1: you're absolutely right about it, Yeah, Madison. So maybe maybe

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Speaker 1: they're talking about a top guy like Hernandez or win

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Speaker 1: between Lyle, Marcus Martin, and Joe Looney. Maybe they just

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Speaker 1: think that the guys that are here can do it.

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Speaker 1: Not to say they don't want to draft the guy,

1076
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: but they don't want to spend a top fifty pick

1077
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: on a guy, and I can hear a lot of

1078
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: people screaming about that. I'm just offering there what they

1079
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Speaker 1: might be thinking. What would they scream more about? Honestly,

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Speaker 1: what would be the one position that do you think

1081
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 1: they would scream about the offense of the guard? Would

1082
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: they scream if they drafted mcclinchy. Somebody would, for sure,

1083
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: I mean I would. Why would you take it? Well,

1084
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: then they would probably say, we're gonna move Le Collins

1085
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: a guard, thank you very much. Their needs are so

1086
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: diverse and the options that we've presented are so far

1087
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: flung that I think somebody will be really happy about

1088
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: damn near anything that they do, and somebody will be

1089
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: really mad about it. I mean, I wouldn't want them

1090
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Speaker 1: to draft Mike McGlinchey because I don't want them to

1091
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: move Lyle Collins. But I can make a compelling case

1092
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 1: for why Mike McGlinchey is a great pick. Yeah. Well,

1093
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: I mean it's easy to do. But sure, Tyrone's injury history,

1094
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:20,879
Speaker 1: the fact that he could start right away, the fact

1095
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: that he gives you great depth. Yeah, you put him

1096
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: next to Zach Martin. Yeah, and hopefully you get him

1097
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,879
Speaker 1: and him McGlinchey and Nelson Collin and then I mean,

1098
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: it won't make Lyle Collins happy, but you'll I mean,

1099
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Speaker 1: you move him to guard, you'll have a pretty fantastic

1100
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Speaker 1: starting five. I'm not doubting that so but that, I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's the beauty of it. It's it's so wide open

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Speaker 1: that I think there will be people that will be

1103
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,919
Speaker 1: really happy about whatever they decide to do and people

1104
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: that will be really mad about it. That's I mean,

1105
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 1: if they don't, if they have not drafted a guard

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Speaker 1: by the end of Friday, there will be a lot

1107
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Speaker 1: of people that are really upset about that. I don't

1108
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Speaker 1: know if they will be, but yeah, just the way

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Speaker 1: it goes, all right, man, that's about all the time.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, look at that. About that, I thought we

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Speaker 1: were gonna miss Dane. We did just fine without him.

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Speaker 1: Well sometime, Yeah, we do miss Dane out Sterile as

1113
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Speaker 1: a fountain of knowledge, no doubt about that. Again. I

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Speaker 1: want to thank David Hellman for always coming with some

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Speaker 1: great content. Ken Garrison, we thank Kayden, Dave, those guys

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Speaker 1: and TV. I want to thank everybody out there for

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Speaker 1: fall along with us. I want to thank the folks

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Speaker 1: out there on periscope as well. Folks that watched us

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Speaker 1: later on, we appreciate you stay tuned. Shannon Gross and

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Speaker 1: his band of pirates are going to come in here

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Speaker 1: and do a little show for you and hang out

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Speaker 1: with him, maybe some carry on, some conversation, maybe some

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Speaker 1: more desk talk for you, Bill Drafts, you will be

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Speaker 1: back next Thursday at eleven am Central. We'll see then,

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Speaker 1: keep watching the tape.