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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am Dale Ali. He is Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 1: and this is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio and

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Speaker 1: Matt Little Fantasy Football Focus here on a Friday Friday

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Speaker 1: Fantasy football Focus. How about that? How about the alliteration

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Speaker 1: with that you sent me Evan Silva's twenty twenty three

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Speaker 1: Steelers fantasy preview. Yes, and so I thought we'd take

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Speaker 1: a look at that, looking here at the projected starting

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Speaker 1: lineups and everything. In terms of Kenny Pickett, Evan's well,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think you know, we've talked a lot

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Speaker 1: about this. Obviously, Kenny Pickett needs to do a better

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Speaker 1: job in the red zone. Yeah, no question, needs to

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Speaker 1: have a better So he had a one point eight

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Speaker 1: touchdown rate across touchdown rate on his twelve starts last year.

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Speaker 1: That needs to be better. That needs to be I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to say it needs to be double.

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Speaker 2: Three point six, but you need to be honestly, is

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Speaker 2: nowhere to go but up.

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Speaker 1: You need to be approaching three point six percent percent,

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Speaker 1: you know, if he's at if he's if he's above

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Speaker 1: three this year, m hm, that's the I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think with how much they want to want him to

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Speaker 1: throw the football which is not a ton. But if

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Speaker 1: he's at three point three percent or three point four percent,

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Speaker 1: that's a nice number for him.

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Speaker 2: Well, I know his red zone attempts will go up.

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Speaker 2: He only attempted forty passes in the red zone last year.

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Speaker 1: That's going to go up. Yeah, without a doubt.

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Speaker 2: Eighty And assuming he's played seventeen games, which he didn't

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Speaker 2: of course, is a rookie real quick. I mean, this

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Speaker 2: is a really good at rite up I evan on

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Speaker 2: Established run dot com. But I've I've mentioned I'm doing

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Speaker 2: a lot of these best Ball drafts and some of

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Speaker 2: my most owned players and folks, that's my money. That

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Speaker 2: has nothing to do with me being on the air here.

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Speaker 1: Right, This is what you what you're gonna bet on?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right right. I own Pickett in almost every one

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Speaker 2: of my drafts. I've gotten Warren and Deontay often, and

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Speaker 2: Friar movesment on my team a fair amount as well,

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Speaker 2: you know, so like for where these guys are going

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Speaker 2: in fantasy, And I will tell you it's a lot

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Speaker 2: harder now to get Deontae or Warren than it was

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Speaker 2: a month ago. Like the world's starting to figure it out,

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Speaker 2: and Pickett's ADP's going up, like the world is starting

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Speaker 2: to warm up to the Steeler offense is better than

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Speaker 2: we originally thought.

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Speaker 1: Well, much like the talk that we had in the

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Speaker 1: first segment where the betting lines have either come down

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Speaker 1: or they've reversed themselves, where the Steelers were underdogs when

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Speaker 1: when the lines came out, and now they're not. I

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Speaker 1: think you're I think you're one hundred percent right. I

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Speaker 1: think people are starting to realize and I think Evan

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Speaker 1: points out something here that that for fantasy purposes, is

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Speaker 1: especially interesting with Picket. He flashed just enough running Prowss.

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Speaker 1: He hit two hundred and thirty seven yards rushing last

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Speaker 1: year in his twelve games.

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Speaker 2: Yep, that's a.

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Speaker 1: Lot over us over a seventeen game season. Feel pretty

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Speaker 1: good that he's gonna run for over three hundred yards,

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Speaker 1: maybe four hundred, maybe four hundreds.

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Speaker 2: Right, yep. Maybe he's a very scrambler.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, got four to seven to three speed. Again, that's

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Speaker 1: not top of the line, but it's better than I

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Speaker 1: don't know, fifteen to sixteen guys in the league. He's

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Speaker 1: in the top half of the league in terms of

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Speaker 1: scrambling ability.

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Speaker 2: So I'm in super nerd season for metrics and advanced

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Speaker 2: stuff and all that kind of thing. And a thing

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Speaker 2: that I've read or discovered or whatever this past week

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Speaker 2: or so, is the most efficient play in the NFL

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Speaker 2: right now is a quarterback scramble, not a quarterback designed run.

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Speaker 2: A quarterback scramble and.

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Speaker 1: The defense has it's back to the quarterback and he

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Speaker 1: gets gets out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, like, your first read's not there, your

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Speaker 2: second's not there. Go make something happen, scramble whatever. And

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Speaker 2: I think Pickett's exceptional at that where fields hurts lamar.

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Speaker 2: They're phenomenal designed running quarterbacks, and I'm not saying they're

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Speaker 2: bad scramblers, but Pickett surprised me how good of a

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Speaker 2: scrambler he is. You know, you call a pass put

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Speaker 2: a pass was called, and you end up running the ball.

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Speaker 2: As a quarterback across the league, that is an extremely

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Speaker 2: hard thing to defend. It's being asked upon by offensive

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Speaker 2: coordinators more than ever, and it's putting up more yards

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Speaker 2: in an efficient manner than any way of moving the football.

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Speaker 2: And he's really good at it. So he doesn't need

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Speaker 2: to break tackles to do that. He doesn't have to

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Speaker 2: a lane, my first two reads aren't there? Pick up

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Speaker 1: Can he be Daniel Jones like in those situations?

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Speaker 2: Because I think Jones is a faster, more physical, designed

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Speaker 2: running quarterback. As a scrambler, I actually think Kenny's better.

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Speaker 1: That's what I was asking because I okay, okay, let's

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Speaker 1: you know discern that now.

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Speaker 2: The rushing yards no, but scrambling yes or better?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I don't the Steelers aren't going to design

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Speaker 1: runs for Kenny Picket at least not a lot of them.

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Speaker 2: I mean even I have two quarterback draws and a

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Speaker 2: handful of you know.

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Speaker 1: Sneaks and things of that nature.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and they're not going to run power with

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Speaker 2: them and stuff, you know.

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Speaker 1: Right. But what I go back to is so in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty, Joanes's second season in the NFL. Now, last

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Speaker 1: year he ran for seven hundred and eight yards, but

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Speaker 1: that was on one hundred and twenty carries.

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Speaker 2: Right, I mean, he's a that's part of their offense.

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Speaker 1: That's part of their offense. Right in twenty twenty, when

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Speaker 1: it was just okay, if you don't see it run.

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Speaker 1: He had sixty five carries, he had four hundred and

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Speaker 1: twenty three rushing yards.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, Yeah, I think.

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Speaker 1: That's I think that's what Kenny Pickett can add to

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Speaker 1: the running game.

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Speaker 2: So I hate pairing people. I always make this joke,

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Speaker 2: who's your mind you of, Oh, Michael Jordan? You know? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: But the mold for me for Tenny is how Mahomes plays. Now,

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Speaker 2: you know, like they don't design a lot of runs

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Speaker 2: for him either. Yeah, I mean, they don't need him

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Speaker 2: taking hits here and there in Super Bowls, in playoffs. Yes,

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Speaker 2: but he's to me as good of a scrambler as

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Speaker 2: you'll see. And he's a better athlete than Kenny, but

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Speaker 2: not by leaps and bounds. He's not fast fast, you know,

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Speaker 2: He's just agile, quick, sees the field extremely well. And

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Speaker 2: when that's what you take, that's what you take. You know,

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Speaker 2: they're playmakers. But if he could be used in a

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Speaker 2: similar manner to Mahomes as a scrambler, which I think

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Speaker 2: he kind of was, and I'm looking at it, sixty

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Speaker 2: for Mahomes last year, that's that's a possibility. Yeah, here's

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Speaker 2: sixty carries a season, mahomes.

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Speaker 1: Here's why I bring up Daniel Jones, Matt, Yeah, Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 1: You know what he ran at the combine, four four

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Speaker 1: eight one really wow, pickets faster.

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Speaker 2: I will fight you on that on tape. But he's

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Speaker 2: faster that the obviously the combine.

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Speaker 1: I'm just calling up pickets combine stats here as well.

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Speaker 1: out the splits, Yeah, because Jones Jones was a one

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Speaker 1: six five ten yard split, so picket, I bet Pickets

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Speaker 1: is better in the ten picket four seven three into

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Speaker 1: forty one five nine. In the ten yard split Jones

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Speaker 1: one six, one six five for a good second half

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Speaker 1: of the season here for killing. And then finally in

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Speaker 1: the twenty yard shuttle, Jones was four four one Pickets

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Speaker 2: That doesn't surprise me either. His change in direction as

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Speaker 2: a stealer shocked me. His agility, his burst, overall quickness, twitchiness,

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Speaker 2: he's twitchier than Jones. Jones is heavier too. Jones is

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Speaker 2: two forty or something like that too.

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Speaker 1: At the combine, Jones was two twenty one.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's leaner than he is now.

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Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, so Picket now is is it to twenty

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Speaker 2: Mhm.

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Speaker 1: I think he can be a better runner than Jones.

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Speaker 1: I think that's something that they could use more of.

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Speaker 1: Now that being said, you don't want to put your

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Speaker 1: quarterback at risk a lot doing that, and I don't

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Speaker 1: expect them to have a lot of design to runs

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Speaker 1: for Kenny Pickett. But he moves. He moves really well

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Speaker 1: He is a good feel for it.

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Speaker 2: It was one of my biggest shocks. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: never thought he was a bad athlete to pitt and

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Speaker 2: combine numbers aside, his elusiveness, quickness and twitchiness overall as

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Speaker 2: an athlete and a lot of it was a looting

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Speaker 2: free rushers or as a runner as a scrambler was

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Speaker 2: better than I thought it was without question. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just think in year two, when he has a

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Speaker 1: much better feel for where the pressure is coming from

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Speaker 1: and things of that nature. Oh yeah, and when do escape,

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Speaker 1: when they run and when not to run, I think

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be better this year running, you know, getting

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Speaker 1: out of trouble and doing things of that nature. Jones.

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Speaker 1: Jones ran for seven hundred and eight yards and seven

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Speaker 1: touchdowns last year.

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Speaker 2: So much of that is designed too. Yeah, he's following

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Speaker 2: Barkley through the hole or whatever, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 2: like it's more of a Hurtz type of strategy than

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Speaker 2: what the Steelers will use.

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Speaker 1: His one hundred and twenty rushing attempts last year produced

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Speaker 1: fifty seven first downs.

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Speaker 2: Jones Jones, Okay, yeah, I mean that's someone.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So you know, I think that's a weapon that

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Speaker 1: the Steelers can use for Kenny Pickett that you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe you don't do it all the time, but if

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Speaker 1: he does it once or twice a game, I.

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Speaker 2: Think four hundred rushing yards is a number to shoot.

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Speaker 1: And I think those extra first downs that you got

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Speaker 1: last year, the percentage in the second half of the season,

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Speaker 1: they were, you know, much better at that they were

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Speaker 1: if they extrapolated what they did in the second and

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Speaker 1: over the final half of the season, they were to

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Speaker 1: number one in the league in first down conversions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and no one even looks at this, but they

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Speaker 2: were also like one or two on fourth down.

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Speaker 1: On pickts fifty five rushing attempts last year, twenty three

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Speaker 1: of them went for first downs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's smart and situational about it. Like no

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Speaker 2: one remembers Aaron Rodgers being that guy, but he was

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Speaker 2: that guy, you know, like.

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Speaker 1: Oh he was. It was maddening with it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he need six.

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Speaker 1: He ate six yards. He rushed runs for seven and

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Speaker 1: ducks out of bounds.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and laughs in your face and you know, tick

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Speaker 2: to drive and then throws a dagger to Jordy Nelson.

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Speaker 1: Yards before contact on pickets rushing yards last year, I

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Speaker 1: bet they're high. Of his two hundred and thirty seven

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Speaker 1: contact because.

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Speaker 2: There's scrambles as they're scrambles. Scrambles and design are two

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Speaker 2: By a you know, defensive tackles, Cam Hayward's arm is

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Speaker 1: Whereas if you look at Jones in twenty twenty when

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Speaker 2: See, I'm betting just knowing that organization and such an

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Speaker 1: I mean there's a difference there between the scrambles and

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Speaker 1: So I think Pickett's kind of an underrated fantasy guy.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I forgot this what we're talking about.

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Speaker 1: Where I was going with this whole thing. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll bet everything I owned that it gets better.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's gonna be the best, but it's

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Speaker 1: The scrambling is still there. That isn't going anywhere. I

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Speaker 1: he also runs for another four or five hundred with

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Speaker 2: Actually are lower and say, yeah, four hundred rushing yards

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Speaker 2: and three rushing touchdowns Jones Fantasy Jones last year was

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Speaker 2: Because of that seven hundred rushing yards. He also had

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Speaker 2: It's funny you say that because he also where Kenny

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry he only had fifteen touchdown passes.

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Speaker 2: I say, I think you're wrong. I think he only

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Speaker 1: And when we talk about that we talked about that

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Speaker 2: I'd say it has to be high.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, well not high, but it's higher than it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's not high.

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Speaker 1: But the difference was he only threw four hundred and

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Speaker 2: I enjoy this Daniel Jones pick of comparison. I think

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Speaker 2: Pickett might be a better player than him, right now.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I think he's a better He's.

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Speaker 2: A better football player, right ready.

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Speaker 1: So I think that I think the ceiling for Pickett

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you could live with Daniel Jones in fantasy, right. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So Jones runs for more yards than Pickett though, well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so as well. But I think I

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Speaker 1: think Pickett averages at least fifty more yards passing per

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, not with you. I mean, in the world

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Speaker 2: such an uphill climb. But Kenny could be the seventhish

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Speaker 2: about where he was on a per game basis last year, right.

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Speaker 1: I think people are sleeping on that in the Fantasy Award, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And he's QB twenty Yeah. Oh sometimes later too, like

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Speaker 2: I get them. I get him when there's like eighteen

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Speaker 1: Because people just look at they're looking at the per

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Speaker 1: two of those games. One of those games he came

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Speaker 1: play a half of those games, right, right, right right.

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Speaker 2: If you look at a person snap, it's not nearly

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Speaker 2: as bad as per game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean the yards per game were one eighty

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, much. Yeah, it's it's a little bit of

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Speaker 2: the Deontay Johnson argument.

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Speaker 1: Too, it really is. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, no one's gonna take the de Auntay Johnson

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Speaker 1: Well, he's gonna he's going to Yeah, absolutely, yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we need to talk. We talked a

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Speaker 1: I think you know we understand that that's friar mouth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He had the sixth most receptions and the sixth most

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Speaker 2: Yep. He would never look at him in that light,

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Speaker 1: Only had the two touchdowner line.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. I I think if I were ranking friar Mouth

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Speaker 1: it shock you? If you? Okay, he finishes this season

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Speaker 2: Mhm, That's where I'm ranking him.

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Speaker 1: Right, That's the way you need to look at this.

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Speaker 1: Don't look at the touchdown. Touchdowns when you're looking at

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Speaker 2: Right right, right, targets, targets, targets.

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Speaker 1: He had seven touchdowns as a rookie.

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Speaker 2: So even in terms of team target share, I know

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Speaker 2: you know, starting tight ends, he's near the top of

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Speaker 2: the pecking order of all of them not named Kelsey. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean they want to give him football.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's he's going He's vastly underrated right

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Speaker 1: now as well in terms of fantasy football, because he's

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Speaker 1: he's going to like tight end nine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like there's there's a lot of controversy, not controversy.

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Speaker 2: I've heard a lot of discussion Najoku, Ingram, friar Mooth.

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Speaker 2: How do you rank those guys? And I like the

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Speaker 2: I mean, but I think he's closer ottert who's in

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Speaker 1: I do too, And here's why. So those other two

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Speaker 1: storylines in both of those? In Cleveland and in Jacksonville. Well,

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Speaker 1: we went out and out of these these pass catchers.

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Speaker 2: Oh a, see you're saying, I was thinking quarterback angle

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay.

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Speaker 1: There's nowhere for those two to go. Are they going

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Speaker 1: Their mat I get bigger. Yeah, I mean, are they

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Speaker 2: For Elijah Moore and Tillmore.

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Speaker 1: Elijah Moore in Cleveland. Yeah, I mean there, there's nowhere

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Speaker 2: Up right, I agree, No, I think he's like and

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Speaker 2: we can fight about Kyle Pitts still the cows come home.

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Speaker 2: I have Pitts still really high. I can't quit him

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Speaker 2: because he's unbelievably talented. Kelsey's number one, Andrews is clearly

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Speaker 2: Friar Moose to me, but I don't think Friar Moo's

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Speaker 2: far off those guys. H We just mentioned that that pile.

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Speaker 1: No, I think so as well. Yeah, I think right now,

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Speaker 1: Nauseie Harris is a little underrated.

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Speaker 2: I mix feelings on that because the only thing I'm

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Speaker 1: Well, there's that. I get it.

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Speaker 2: They're not going down back, but.

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Speaker 1: I don't see the Steelers going away. They're going to

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Speaker 1: of last year, no question, no question. The only difference

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Speaker 2: So this is strictly a fantasy note. So everyone in

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Speaker 1: Because here's where's why. After the Week nine by last year,

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Speaker 2: Games, and he's blocking will be better.

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Speaker 1: That's just what he does. And you expect to block

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Speaker 1: eighty seven point eight times seventeen. It's almost fifteen hundred yards.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, say it's a time it's fourteen ninety two. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And he's gonna score touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he will catch passes, but that's gonna get

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Speaker 1: Okay, maybe he catches it catches. If he rushes for

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Speaker 1: And right now he's at RB like RB twenty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, he's too low. Don't get me wrong. I

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Speaker 2: think he's way too low. Because he would I'd be

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Speaker 2: probably perfectly.

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Speaker 1: Willing to take him as my RB one and be Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to be like, oh I got Nausee

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Speaker 1: Harris in my RB one because I'm going to back

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Speaker 1: him up with another guy who's similar to him.

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Speaker 2: Mm hm.

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Speaker 1: And maybe I don't. Maybe I maybe gets back to

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Speaker 1: our conversation from from Wednesday. Maybe I don't take Echolar

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Speaker 1: in the first round. I'll take nausea. Harris at eighteen

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Speaker 1: and be happy.

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Speaker 2: You'd get him in the third though, But.

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Speaker 1: I could get him in the third. That's the thing

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Speaker 1: he's going. He's going too low because I don't think

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Speaker 1: I think people are looking at again, they're looking much

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Speaker 1: like Kenny Pickett. They're looking at the entire package of

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Speaker 1: last year. Well, he didn't have a very good year.

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Speaker 1: He had a really good second half.

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Speaker 2: He had a really good second half and the film

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Speaker 2: was much better.

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Speaker 1: Again, if he gets me, he gets me thirteen hundred

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Speaker 1: yards on the ground, I.

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Speaker 2: Think both of us would take the under on fifteen

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Speaker 2: hundred yards.

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Speaker 1: Right, I don't expect that, but again I think he

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Speaker 1: I thirteen hundred take.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he might be fresher for non fantasy reasons

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Speaker 2: as well, you know, like playoffs week seventeen, Week eighteen.

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Speaker 2: He'll have less tread on his tires, you know, things

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Speaker 2: like that, you know, just for Steeler purposes in general,

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Speaker 2: because Warren's not going away, as my point, he's never

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Speaker 2: went away.

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Speaker 1: No, you're right, he's a good football player.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think.

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Speaker 1: They can they can compliment each other. Well, I don't Again,

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Speaker 1: if Najie Harris is getting eighteen touches per game, but

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Speaker 1: they're eighteen quality touches because he's a little more arrested

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Speaker 1: because Jalen Warren's out there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take that. And I don't think he's ever

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Speaker 2: going to break long runs, but I think he'll break

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Speaker 2: more chunk runs.

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Speaker 1: Like I think when you know, when in the fourth

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Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, if they're winning some of these games, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's getting the football. He's gonna he's gonna wear down people.

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Speaker 1: He's a big, big back. I don't think people truly

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Speaker 1: understand unless you've seen this guy in person, when.

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Speaker 2: You're standing next to him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like he is the closest thing I've seen Eddie

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Speaker 1: George Seddie George.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good comparison because Eddie.

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Speaker 1: George was a big dude. Yeah, with big thighs and

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Speaker 1: just run through you.

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Speaker 2: Oh he looks like a Greek god. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what Nzie Harris looks like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it looks as good as ever in terms

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Speaker 2: of physical conditioning and all that good stuff too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So I think people are sleeping a little bit

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Speaker 1: on the Steelers offense when it comes to the fantasy world.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's all because they didn't score a touchdowns las year.

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Speaker 1: They didn't score touchdowns last year. That's not going to

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Speaker 1: keep up.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I read a lot of these fantasy profiles

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Speaker 2: and they'll always be like, this is gonna be a

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Speaker 2: low scoring offense. A lot of questions about the second

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Speaker 2: year quarterback. I don't have many questions about the second

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Speaker 2: your quarterback. And I know the touchdown numbers will go up.

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Speaker 2: Like I'm not saying they're gonna be the Chiefs, but

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Speaker 2: it's gonna go up.

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Speaker 1: I think they if I had to put a number

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Speaker 1: on it right now, as we say it again July seventh,

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Speaker 1: what I think the Steelers offense averages this year? M h,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say twenty three twenty four points a game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's not unreasonable.

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Speaker 1: And people are gonna look at that and say, wow,

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Speaker 1: that's not thirty points a game. Nobody in the league

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Speaker 1: averaged thirty points a game last year.

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Speaker 2: Twenty four Oswall is gonna be better.

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Speaker 1: Twenty four points a game gets you into top ten

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Speaker 1: for what was what everybody did last year. The Jaguars

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Speaker 1: were like twenty four last year.

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Speaker 2: No, that's the neighborhood you need to be in and can.

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Speaker 1: Be and can be again going back to our original

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Speaker 1: or previous argument, if the defense is giving up seventeen

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Speaker 1: a game, you'll take twenty four all day long.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean, I don't have the numbers. I

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Speaker 2: was gonna cite them last stat or last segment. But

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Speaker 2: nothing a sack prohibits. Sacks turned into punts more than

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Speaker 2: anything in the league, Like fumboy are like a penalty,

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Speaker 2: blah blah blah. Nothing kills a drive like a sack.

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Speaker 2: And if their sack numbers go up, that's all I'm

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Speaker 2: saying is you're gonna have more offensive possessions if your

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Speaker 2: sack numbers go up, and.

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Speaker 1: They're going to possess the football and they're gonna I

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Speaker 1: mean again, they had as many. Are that The only

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Speaker 1: team that had more ten plus play drives last year

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Speaker 1: than the Steelers were the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: M hm, No, I don't.

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Speaker 1: There's nowhere to go but up for the offense.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you noticed a couple of tweets

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Speaker 2: I said out lately though there I mean again, I'm

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Speaker 2: nerding out on these stats. But during the second half

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Speaker 2: of the season, after the after the bye, the Steelers

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Speaker 2: were seventh in scoring rate per drive in third in

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Speaker 2: yards per drive, only the Chiefs and Lions were better.

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Speaker 2: Okatty good?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty good, pretty good the end zone.

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Speaker 2: A lot of those ended in field goal tries. I

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Speaker 2: mean your drives for game is great and scoring rate

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Speaker 2: per drive is great. Now it needs to be touchdowns

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Speaker 2: per drive. Touchdowns, that's what you need to score touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna do it. For the show today, met funf Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Uh. You know, talking a lot

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Speaker 1: of Steeler stuff, and sometimes we get off on other

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Speaker 1: tangents here, but certainly talking a lot of Steelers here.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back again next week closing in on training camp.

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Speaker 1: Can't wait for that. If you missed any of our

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Speaker 1: show today, you can hear it on all of our

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Speaker 1: different shows that we do here on Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: But for my partner Matt Williamson, I am Dale Lollie.

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