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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show

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Speaker 1: Live from Washington, d C. A bunch of different moving

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Speaker 1: parts on the program today, a lot of different stories underway.

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Speaker 1: We started off the day at the CIA, which I'm

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Speaker 1: allowed to tell you because they took a photograph of

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Speaker 1: us inside of the CIA that I imagine at some

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Speaker 1: in time will be shared. Pretty cool. I've never been

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Speaker 1: to CIA headquarters, Buck, you work for a long time.

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Speaker 1: Turning to my high schoolers, Yes, we met a lot

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Speaker 1: of people doing really good work on behalf of President

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Speaker 1: Trump at the CIA, and we will talk about that

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Speaker 1: a bit as the program progresses. Several different stories to

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Speaker 1: update you on. Elon Musk has apologized, as we suggested

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Speaker 1: would likely be the case, to President Trump for his

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Speaker 1: tweet that went megaviral last week. We will discuss what

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Speaker 1: exactly is happening there. Inflation for a fourth straight month

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Speaker 1: has come in below. Quote expert economic opinions. The important

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Speaker 1: thing about inflation is not only what is the rate

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Speaker 1: at which it is rising, but more importantly are your

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Speaker 1: wages rising faster than the cost of goods? And for

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Speaker 1: much of Joe Biden's tenure in office that was not

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Speaker 1: the case. That's why when you went to the grocery

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Speaker 1: store you had far less money than you did before.

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Speaker 1: It's not just that prices rose, it's that your wages

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Speaker 1: did not keep pace as a whole with the cost

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Speaker 1: of goods. That is now flipped in the President Trump economy.

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Speaker 1: Wage growth around four percent, which is very good, the

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Speaker 1: cost of goods growing at about two point four percent,

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Speaker 1: which is low. So that means that every single month

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Speaker 1: you are netting out on average. Somebody's financial circumstances are

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Speaker 1: not the exact same, but more money in your pocket

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Speaker 1: for the goods you are purchasing. Inflation conquered and we

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Speaker 1: should be having And now there is increasing motivation for this,

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Speaker 1: the FED lowering interest rates, which would be very transformative

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Speaker 1: in a positive way for overall economic circumstances. Whether it's

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Speaker 1: for mortgages, whether it's for car loans, whether it is

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Speaker 1: for credit card interest debt, all of those different things,

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Speaker 1: the borrowing costs would become cheaper. That is the direction

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Speaker 1: we are going. Early this morning, Trump announced also that

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Speaker 1: the China and the United States trade deal has effectively

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Speaker 1: been reached and that we are going to have consistent

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Speaker 1: fifty percent tariffs in place. China will have a ten

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Speaker 1: percent tariff on our goods, and that is another positive story.

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Speaker 2: They're going to give a little more rare earth minerals

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Speaker 2: to us in the bargain as well, or more openness

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Speaker 2: to that, which is certainly a good thing. So we

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Speaker 2: need some of that. But progress clay on this which

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Speaker 2: we had been told all along. Oh my gosh, Trump

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Speaker 2: is going to run the global economy into a ditch.

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Speaker 2: That's the opposite of what is happening. Yes, not a

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Speaker 2: surprise to us.

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Speaker 1: We are approaching all time record highs in the stock market.

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Speaker 1: Those record highs set in February and so they are

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Speaker 1: probably going to be challenged in the near future. We

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Speaker 1: are very close, which means, basically, as we told you,

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Speaker 1: even if you bought stocks for the first time in

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Speaker 1: your life in February, that is, you had never purchased

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Speaker 1: stocks before in the history of your life. You had

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Speaker 1: never had a retirement account, no four to oh one k,

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Speaker 1: absolute apex, you could not have bought at a worse time.

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Speaker 1: You bought on the day and the hour that the

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Speaker 1: if you just didn't pay attention at all to stock

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Speaker 2: On paper, Yeah, that's gonna be very few people, most

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: The market the way it most immediately affects you has

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Speaker 2: to do with your four oh one K, your IRA,

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Speaker 2: your retirement accounts. So you're probably invested in the market

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Speaker 2: in those accounts. If you're in mutual funds for a

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Speaker 2: long period of time, and if you've just let the

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Speaker 2: money sit, it's doing what it's supposed to do. Getting

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Speaker 2: rich slowly or being wealthy slowly is the only sure

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Speaker 2: the US economy. Uh, there are otherwise. I know there

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Speaker 1: That wins the race. Clay.

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Speaker 2: There's also I think just victory in the air so

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Speaker 2: far on the protests, which is a major a major

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Speaker 2: win for the administrations. You've got the good economic data,

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Speaker 2: the China trade uh trade movement. Let's say it's not,

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Speaker 2: I think he had a ninety minute phone call Ishesion

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Speaker 2: Paying a few days back. So Trump is very much

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Speaker 2: and he's isn't amazing he's doing the phone call. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we just had an administration. We just had a president

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Speaker 2: Now we have a president who is going up against

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Speaker 2: doing I think a very good job of it. There's

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Speaker 2: supposed to be some protests elsewhere. We're watching this pretty closely.

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Speaker 2: Texas Governor Abbott, for example, saying Clay exactly what should

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Speaker 2: be said. Same thing with Governor DeSantis and Florida might

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Speaker 2: add protest all you want.

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Speaker 1: Protest is great.

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Speaker 2: You want to say that this is horrible, that they're

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Speaker 2: enforcing the law against illegals. You know, subtexts you're nuts,

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Speaker 2: But okay, fine, you know you're you're allowed to say that.

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Speaker 2: You start hurting people or breaking property or breaking laws.

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Speaker 2: Can't at block roadways. You're going to get arrested, You're

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Speaker 2: going to be held responsible. Just think about what a difference.

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Speaker 2: It is a vibe shift. As the kids say, from

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Speaker 2: We'll get into someone Gavin Newsom is saying. He clearly

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Speaker 2: is positioning himself as the leader of the nationwide Democrat

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Speaker 2: resistance to Trump. I think he is from Ghostbusters if

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Speaker 2: we were choosing the form of the destructor. I think

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Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom as the leader of the Democrats is to

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Speaker 2: he certainly thinks he will be. But the fact that

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Speaker 2: they're able to largely so far could break out and

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Speaker 2: get crazy tomorrow, but largely meet and contain this anarchy

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Speaker 2: in the streets of LA is really encouraging.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I think it, as we said yesterday, is a

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Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that there may not be some chaos

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Speaker 1: in blue states and cities. But to your point, I

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Speaker 1: to allow this to get out of control? Now? Could

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Speaker 1: this get out of control in some blue cities in

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Speaker 1: blue states? Do I think that Tim Walls is going

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Speaker 1: to stop people from rioting in Minneapolis? Sadly no, And

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Speaker 2: The overall feeling around this, though, the zeitgeist, the sense

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Speaker 2: very different as a percentage, I think, than what it

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Speaker 2: susceptible to emotional manipulation. That's my belief. I think we

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Speaker 2: saw that play out, and that's not the hardcore left.

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Speaker 2: I just mean a lot of people all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: I even do some conservatives. Look, there were some Republicans

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Speaker 2: who were like, you know, we need to do police reforms,

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Speaker 2: Like this does not mean we have to do police reform. Yes,

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Speaker 2: different now though, Clay, because ten plus million illegals come

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Speaker 2: in under Biden, the exploitation of the kindness and decency

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Speaker 2: of the American people very clear for all to see,

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Speaker 2: the lawlessness, the destruction of sovereignty, and those numbers. We

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Speaker 2: talked about this yesterday, that you have legal immigrants moving

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Speaker 2: forty points toward get these illegals out of here. It

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Speaker 2: is very hard for them to run the usual playbook

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Speaker 2: of this is racist, this is xenophobic. I mean you

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Speaker 2: any group any is saying we actually need to have

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Speaker 2: a secure border. A majority of that group is saying

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Speaker 2: we need to have a secure border. So when it's

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Speaker 2: all Americans by majority saying what the administration's doing is good,

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Speaker 2: this is why this resistance movement is crumbling. We knew

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Speaker 2: this would be it. By the way, the deportations. We

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Speaker 2: They want some grandma who seems kindly and elderly to

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Speaker 1: I think they are struggling because the overwhelming majority of

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Speaker 1: the Maryland Man, the Maryland father who actually, according to

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Speaker 1: It gets harder to make a case when you pick

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Speaker 1: This is really important what you're hitting on, and it

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Speaker 1: it was always we can agree that violent criminals should

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Speaker 1: clear to anyone paying attention, you guys, meaning the Democrats,

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Speaker 1: people who are praying on their fellow human beings and

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Speaker 1: fellow Americans, or rather Americans, not fellow Americans here who

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Speaker 1: think that they are using Los Angeles as a test case,

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Speaker 1: and we'll see on Saturday. There is an expectation that

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Speaker 1: Here's the challenge that I think they're going to have one. Overwhelmingly,

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Speaker 1: the American public are saying, No. Two. What's the end goal.

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Speaker 1: Do you think there's anything they can do that's going

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Speaker 1: to make Trump stop trying to deport people. I just

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Speaker 1: don't think that Trump was susceptible because that was an

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Speaker 1: number one thing that I hear from friends of mine,

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Speaker 1: to speak. And this is this is why Bainal commentary

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Speaker 1: like diversity is our strength is actually not true, right,

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Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is diversity of thought

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Speaker 1: is a strength. But in order to communicate that diversity

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Speaker 1: of thought you have to be able to speak a

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Speaker 1: common language. So in order to have diversity as a strength,

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Speaker 1: there has to be an agreement on its baseline foundational

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Speaker 1: levels that allow the communication to take place. And I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's a bad thing to have kids learning English.

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Speaker 1: I think the problem that you're speaking of, Buck is

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of people who come to America

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Speaker 1: and aren't bothering to learn English. They aren't trying to

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Speaker 1: assimilate in some way to speak with the larger community

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Speaker 1: around them, and one hundred and eighty different languages. How

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Speaker 1: in the world can a public school accommodate that kind

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Speaker 1: of diversity of language when it comes to being able

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Speaker 1: to instruct everybody. And so look, I understand what may

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Speaker 1: Or Cuomo is trying to say. By the way, he's

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Speaker 1: running for president in twenty twenty eight by winning new mayor.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but New York City last year had, by their

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Speaker 2: own assessments, fifty percent proficiency at grade level in reading

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Speaker 2: and math. So half of New York City public school

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Speaker 2: kids to be not proficient based on these public school standards,

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Speaker 2: means you are way below where you need to be.

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Speaker 2: This is not that's remember, proficiency is not I'm getting

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Proficiency means you can.

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Speaker 2: Operate at that level generally speaking, so to be non proficient.

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Speaker 2: And so in that situation, you grow up, you're a

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Speaker 2: you're a kid, you're a Latino American kid, you're a

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Speaker 2: Black American kid in poor parts of New York City,

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Speaker 2: and you're you know, you want more attention, you want

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Speaker 2: more resources, you want a better shot. And then you've

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Speaker 2: got the illegal migrants who are showing up one hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty thousand of them in one year in New

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Speaker 2: York I think was that it was the height of it.

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Speaker 2: And then they're all going into the school system. Of

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Speaker 2: course that's going to slow things down. Of course that's

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Speaker 2: going to make the budgets the school system more strained

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Speaker 2: than they already are. You know, they get a lot

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Speaker 2: of money. But that's a whole other conversation, and it's

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Speaker 2: just this is basic common sense. What other country Clay

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Speaker 2: is prancing around and talking about how great it is

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Speaker 2: or what are their politicians? Maybe some places in Europe

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Speaker 2: that are the same problems we do, But you don't

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Speaker 2: have this anywhere else in the world where they say,

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Speaker 2: you know what we want as many people as possible

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Speaker 2: to show up here who don't speak the language and

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Speaker 2: know nothing about this place.

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Speaker 1: Let's get that going on. Well, I think the challenge

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Speaker 1: too is you said that they're saying fifty percent of

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Speaker 1: New York City kids are proficient and reading in math.

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Speaker 1: One of the big problems we have in America today

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Speaker 1: is that we continue to define standards of proficiency down.

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Speaker 1: So it's not only that let's say fifty percent of

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Speaker 1: kids are proficient, it's that proficiency in twenty twenty four

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Speaker 1: and twenty twenty five is quite a lot different than

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Speaker 1: proficiency in nineteen eighty four and nineteen eighty And by

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Speaker 1: the way, that's actually the way they shared that statistic

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Speaker 1: of New York City fourth graders last year were proficient

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Speaker 1: in math, one third proficient, two thirds not proficient at

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Speaker 1: the fourth grade level. And once you get behind at

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Speaker 1: those look. I don't want to make this just an

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Speaker 1: education discussion, but the point here is people recognize there

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Speaker 1: are very This is why the bussing people to Democrats strongholds.

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Speaker 2: Okay, fine, you want to play this game, Go to

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Speaker 2: New York, go to Chicago, let those cities deal with it.

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Speaker 2: This is what Governor Abbot did in Texas. Ron de

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Speaker 2: Santis did some of this as well in Florida, and

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Speaker 2: it was fine, you take these illegals. Yes, they are

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Speaker 2: very much a drain on public resources, and there are

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Speaker 2: people that need those resources who are saying, what's going

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Speaker 2: on here? Why are we devoting this to people who

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Speaker 2: aren't even supposed to be in the country in the

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Speaker 2: first place.

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Speaker 1: No doubt. And again, I think the under sort of

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Speaker 1: the foundational story that's going on here is you're already

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Speaker 1: starting to see aggressive jockeying to win the Democrat primary.

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Speaker 1: Prepare yourselves. If Andrew Cuomo wins the mayorship of New

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Speaker 1: York City, and I think he will, he's going to

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Speaker 1: run for president in twenty twenty eight. This is his

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Speaker 1: redemption arc. He can say the people of New York

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Speaker 1: forced him out as governor. He's already saying he shouldn't

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Speaker 1: have left, that he didn't actually sexually harass anybody. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna say that's in the past. I've done a great

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Speaker 1: job as mayor. I'm just telling you what his argument's

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Speaker 1: gonna be. And Gavin Newsom is coming against Trump because

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Speaker 1: he's gonna run. They're all setting up for that primary

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Speaker 1: and you're gonna have New York top official Cathy Hokals out.

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Speaker 1: You know, Chuck Schumer's not running, maybe AOC will vote

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Speaker 1: for me.

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Speaker 2: I will no longer grab you around the waist or

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Speaker 2: kiss you strangely on the side of the face.

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Speaker 1: That is Andrew Cuomo on the show right now. Let

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Speaker 1: me also point this outbuck AOC endorsed Andrew Cuomo's top arrival.

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Speaker 2: That they want to talk about a guy who keeps,

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Speaker 2: who holds grudges. Cuomo famously to a nasty infighter in

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Speaker 1: But don't mistake that's not because she cares who the

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Speaker 1: mayor of New York City is. That's because she wants

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Speaker 1: to cut Andrew Cuomo's legs out from underneath him, because

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Speaker 1: if he doesn't get elected mayor, she's the forefront New

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Speaker 1: York national candidate in twenty twenty eight. So sometimes you

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Speaker 1: have to look at not just the text, but the

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Speaker 1: subtext of what's going on. And I think you're already

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Speaker 1: seeing the political jockeying for who is gonna run in

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Speaker 1: twenty eight And by the way, you know what Kevin

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Speaker 1: Newsom will say. He'll say Trump is the worst human

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Speaker 1: who's ever existed in the Democrat primary. If he were

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Speaker 1: the nominee, you know what he tried to do. He'd

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Speaker 1: tried to say. You know, Trump actually got a lot

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Speaker 1: I had a good relationship with him. That's the pivot

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Speaker 1: that you would immediately see. Sprint to the left, become

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Speaker 1: the Democrat, you get elected anti Trump, sprint back to

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Speaker 1: the center. Trump had good ideas, but I can implement

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Speaker 1: some of them to appeal to moderate voters. He wasn't

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Speaker 1: actually the Antichrist. He wasn't actually Hitler. But first you

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Speaker 1: have to say he's the Antichrist and he's Hitler. It's

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Speaker 1: so predictable, But I think it's important to not just

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Speaker 1: We're joined now by Miranda Devine. I think it's probably

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Speaker 1: fair to say all we got Carol Markowitz too. I

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Speaker 1: Carol Markowitz too, So I don't want to offend anybody

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Speaker 1: out there. Miranda, you just had to sit down with

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Speaker 1: President Trump in the Oval Office. It is ricocheting about

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Speaker 1: the internet now, and there are many different things. I

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Speaker 1: know that he told you what stood out to you

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Speaker 1: the most about the interview that you had with President

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Speaker 1: Trump from a news perspective.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks so much. And Carol is great. She's a

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Speaker 3: maid of mine. So I'm glad you like us both.

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Speaker 3: Don Trump was just incredibly generous with his time and

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Speaker 3: also his candor. He is just so frank, you know sometimes,

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Speaker 3: like when we talked about Camp, David couldn't really he said,

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Speaker 3: I can't really talk about it. Ben did say that

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Speaker 3: they'd been talking about, you know, obviously Iran and Russia.

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Speaker 3: He gave you know, a lot of insights into his

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Speaker 3: conversations with world leaders, his problems with Elon. He's sort

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Speaker 3: of open to reconciliation, but you know, not right now.

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Speaker 3: He's too busy. And also some of his childhood experiences.

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Speaker 3: You know, his father bundled him off to military school

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Speaker 3: at thirteen because he was so rambunctious, and his father

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Speaker 3: wasn't terribly thrilled when they got back some aptitude test scores.

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Speaker 1: For we might have just lost her there for a minute.

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Speaker 1: Sounded like she popped out. I hope that doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: that we popped out. So I'm going to keep talking

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Speaker 1: until the team tells me whether or not we've popped out.

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Speaker 1: But Buck, this is Miranda Devine the podcast called air

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Speaker 1: Pod one, and it is underway right now, and I

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Speaker 1: do think it speaks to a pod Force one, sorry

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Speaker 1: is the name of her podcast. She's back with us

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Speaker 1: right now. Miranda. You popped out right there. You were

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Speaker 1: talking about Donald Trump talking about his dad shipping him

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Speaker 1: off to military school, and that's where we lost you.

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Speaker 1: What did he talk about there?

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, his dad just shipped him off to military

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Speaker 3: his parents sent him off to aptitude testing when he

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Speaker 3: was a young boy. And his father was not altogether

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Speaker 3: thrilled to find out that Donald Trump's genius is musical.

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Speaker 3: He is a musical genius. Apparently he can pick a

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Speaker 3: nose and remember it, you know, an hour later. So

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Speaker 3: he sort of laughed Riley and said, well, you know,

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Speaker 3: that wasn't really a talent my father particularly wanted me

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Speaker 3: Learn a musical instrument and you will never guess what

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Speaker 3: it was.

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Speaker 2: Well, yes, you had played the audio already. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: and the memes are rolling in because I have been

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Speaker 2: attacking men who play. It's been attacking male flute players.

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Speaker 2: You leave the ladies out of this, but male flute

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Speaker 2: players he decides Miranda, there's there's some questions.

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Speaker 1: Just play's asking questions.

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Speaker 2: I asked them so many questions for some of our

650
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Speaker 2: flute playing audience. If you have a choice to play

651
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Speaker 2: any instrument in the world, and you picked the flute,

652
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Speaker 2: you have chosen very poorly, and I think that you

653
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Speaker 2: cannot be trusted for anything serious. Now, Trump said he

654
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Speaker 2: might have had a great flute playing future, but instead

655
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Speaker 2: he gave that up and became a multi billionaire developer.

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Speaker 1: I give him credit for abandoning the flute.

657
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Speaker 3: And presidents well, he said he didn't like it. Yes,

658
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Speaker 3: mother had sense or these instructors to the house to

659
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Speaker 3: get him taught to play the flute, but he did

660
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Speaker 3: not want to play the flute. So that didn't last

661
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Speaker 3: for very long. And I mean, it's just amusing. Of

662
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Speaker 3: all the instruments, I can't sink the one that's less

663
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Speaker 3: appropriate for Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: By the way, he and Lizzo could have been out

665
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Speaker 1: there playing the was it the James Madison Donald Trump,

666
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Speaker 1: he could have single handedly rehabilitated the whole flute image

667
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Speaker 1: among the orchestral instrument and would win community.

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Speaker 2: So there's a little bit of a loss year for

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Speaker 2: us Miranda, because I think that Trump could have you know,

670
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Speaker 2: he could have made flutes great again, and instead he

671
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 2: decided to become president and try to save the free world.

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Speaker 1: How is it? You know?

673
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Speaker 2: This is one of these things where Trump talks I think,

674
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Speaker 2: to enough people and we hear how he feels on

675
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 2: a lot of these policy things enough that we're pretty

676
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 2: up to date, pretty in tune, if you will, with

677
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 2: what his thinking is on a lot of things. But

678
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 2: in terms of his poise, the sense that this time

679
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: I'm around, he learned a lot the first time. I mean,

680
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 2: just take us into his mindset a little bit from

681
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Speaker 2: sitting down with him, and what you felt like you

682
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 2: were gathering from this guy who still has the weight

683
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 2: of the world on his shoulders but always seems calm,

684
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Speaker 2: cool and collected, except when he's a little angry.

685
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Speaker 1: But you know, for the most.

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Speaker 3: Part, yeah he is. And it's that confidence and sort

687
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 3: of New York swagger that he's just had. He's really

688
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Speaker 3: he as far as back as he can remember, he says,

689
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Speaker 3: it's just he does.

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Speaker 4: You know.

691
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Speaker 3: I said, you sort of act against the grain quite often,

692
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Speaker 3: and he says, well, you know, I've got the hat

693
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Speaker 3: that says Trump was always right, but he says, I

694
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Speaker 3: just it's I don't feel that I'm a rebel. I

695
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 3: just have an innate sense of what's the right thing

696
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Speaker 3: to do, and I do it, and I don't really

697
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Speaker 3: care what other people say. And he said, for instance,

698
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Speaker 3: he pointed to the LA riots, and you know, last

699
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 3: time he sort of regretted in twenty twenty that he

700
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Speaker 3: wasn't as forceful that He said. At the time, well,

701
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Speaker 3: I just thought, really I would leave it to the

702
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Speaker 3: governors to make those decisions. But obviously the Blue states,

703
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 3: the blue governors did not do that. Whether it was

704
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Speaker 3: because they thought that they, you know, it would be

705
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Speaker 3: a great way of beating Donald Trump at the polls

706
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 3: later that year, which I guess worked. But this time around,

707
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Speaker 3: he said, this is a much more consequential presidency. He

708
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Speaker 3: feels it because, well, in part, he said, because he's got.

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Speaker 1: Again lost again.

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Speaker 3: I'm back. Yeah, I'm very sorry about it, my stupid phone.

711
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Speaker 3: And yeah, he just feels like he's got a better

712
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Speaker 3: team more more like he said that I had some

713
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Speaker 3: stars last time, but I also had some losers, and

714
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Speaker 3: category did.

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Speaker 1: And it's important that he recognized that. I think Miranda.

716
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Speaker 2: And one of the challenges early on was Trump was

717
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 2: this political phenomen talking the term one, you know, first

718
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 2: first administration. He's this political phenomenon. But a lot of

719
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 2: us who were who voted for Trump in twenty sixteen,

720
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 2: who were excited about it, some of the people that

721
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 2: were in charge, whether it was the mooch or some

722
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 2: of the others that got into that administration, we all

723
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 2: knew right away, well, this is not a good you know,

724
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 2: this is not a good idea. And Trump realized that.

725
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 2: And this time around, I look at the team that

726
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 2: he's picked, and I think it's not just that we

727
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 2: think it's good. The results, the speed, the efficiency with

728
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 2: which they're moving on the agenda is the you know,

729
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 2: at this stage at least they still have a lot

730
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Speaker 2: to do. But that is the result of somebody or

731
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 2: those are the actions of somebody who I think clearly

732
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 2: learned a lot on the job the first time around

733
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Speaker 2: and came ready to play day one this time.

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Speaker 3: Yes, And he said that, he in fact said, you know,

735
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Speaker 3: having that four years in between, I mean, he could

736
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 3: not have been more negative about Joe Biden and how

737
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 3: he destroyed the country. But he said, people saw how

738
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,720
Speaker 3: bad it was, and you know, he'd fixed the border,

739
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 3: but he got no credit for it. But this time

740
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 3: he's absolutely determined to undo the damage and he's confident

741
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 3: that he will be able to do it. He's very

742
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,479
Speaker 3: bullish on the economy and his big beautiful bill. He says, well,

743
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 3: he says only phase one. He's got other things to do,

744
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 3: and he reckons that the economic boost that it will

745
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 3: give us will pay for they'll be able to start

746
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 3: paying down the debt, so you know, and that was

747
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 3: sort of ripoff to Elon, and he's just very bullish

748
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 3: and confident. The only thing I did pick up was,

749
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Speaker 3: you know, he's disappointed about Iran. He said he really

750
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Speaker 3: thought they were going to get the deal done, but

751
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Speaker 3: just the last few days he's realized. He said, they've changed.

752
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Speaker 3: And I asked, what do you mean they've changed, And

753
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Speaker 3: he wouldn't really be drawn on that, but he just

754
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 3: said he felt that they wanted to do a deal before.

755
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Speaker 3: Now he's not so sure. But either way, he said,

756
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Speaker 3: they're not getting a nuclear bomb. They are not. That's

757
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 3: not happening, and you know, it can either happen the

758
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 3: nice way, or he really doesn't want people to die.

759
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 3: But they're not getting the nuclear bomb.

760
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: Where does this go? In your mind? The Elon Trump

761
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: relationship a lot of drama Trump. Elon apologized to Trump

762
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 1: publicly last night, it seems, and I bet you felt

763
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Speaker 1: kind of the same way that Trump has been somewhat

764
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: restrained in his response to Elon. And there's reports out

765
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: there that he basically considers Elon to be fifty percent

766
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: genius fifty percent boy kid. And I do think there's

767
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: some truth to that as well. How would you assess

768
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Speaker 1: where this goes from here?

769
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're absolutely spot on. I mean, he does you know.

770
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 3: I think I got the impression when that was still

771
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 3: in good company together that Trump was fascinated by him

772
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 3: because of his success, and I guess he's brilliant, and

773
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 3: so he was sort of watching him and looking at

774
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 3: him and engaged in conversation with him, but listening very intently,

775
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 3: almost like you look at an insect under the glass.

776
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 3: You know. It's not in a mean way, in a

777
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 3: nice way. I mean, he's quite paternal with him. I

778
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 3: felt Elon Musk treated Donald Trump as a father figure,

779
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 3: which is really why it's so sad that it's all

780
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 3: blown up. Look, I asked Donald Trump a few times

781
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,919
Speaker 3: about Elon, and he said, look, I don't bear any

782
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 3: ill will towards him, but I am just too busy

783
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 3: fixing the world. I'm not thinking about him. And you know,

784
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 3: I believe, you know, Elon may have tried to reach

785
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 3: out a couple of times or you know, I don't

786
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 3: know a bit. Not that Donald Trump told me that,

787
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 3: but I heard that somewhere else and we and I

788
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 3: think that he's just letting him cool off. And I

789
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 3: don't know that Donald Trump will ever be able to

790
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 3: have that same very close relationship because Elon, even though

791
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 3: he's apologized, he kind of broke something.

792
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are things you can't say.

793
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 2: I think we all just know this from our own lives,

794
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 2: whether it's to your spouse or do a colleague or

795
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 2: a close friend.

796
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: There are lines, and he.

797
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 2: Definitely cross some lines that I don't think we'll be

798
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 2: able to be undone. But I also think that they'll

799
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 2: collaborate as needed in the future, but from a more

800
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 2: shall we say, professional distance and less of almost like

801
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 2: adopted son status, which is what Elon.

802
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: It felt like Elon was getting there for a while.

803
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 3: Yes, And I mean Elon's own father was so disastrous

804
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 3: for him. I think that's a need that he has.

805
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 3: And you know, it was a real romance. I mean,

806
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 3: he was sleeping in the Lincoln bedroom. He really admired

807
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 3: Donald Trump enormously and it was almost a childlike from

808
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 3: my observation, and certainly I think that's the why Donald

809
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 3: Trump felt. But you know, you just can't go back,

810
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 3: and maybe it's a lesson that Elon will have. But look,

811
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 3: Donald Trump is showing that he's not going to be

812
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 3: nasty to Elon, and he really could have. Normally he

813
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 3: strikes back quite unkindly, but he also is quite a

814
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 3: sensitive man. I think he has insight into other people's feelings,

815
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 3: and I think he knew that Elon was sort of

816
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 3: in a bit of a manic phase and would regret

817
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,280
Speaker 3: what he'd said, which obviously he has because he's tweeted

818
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 3: poor thing. I mean, you wouldn't want to be Elon.

819
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 1: Well. People can go listen to the full interview of

820
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Speaker 1: Podforce one.

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Speaker 3: Correct, Pod Force one, Yes.

822
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Speaker 2: Podforce one with Miranda Devine. Go check it out where

823
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Speaker 2: we get your podcast. Miranda always great work, Thanks for

824
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Speaker 2: hanging out with us.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: he means tall. Yes, not like Burley not like obese,

865
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: although I do think fat women would have a tough

866
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: time with dig is the preferred like a four or

867
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: a five, A power forward or a sinner, A big

868
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: woman meaning tall. I think that they can't handle the

869
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: ball and I can't shoot. I would beat Angel Reese

870
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: one on one. I offered one hundred thousand dollars and

871
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: a head to head matchup. That's more than she makes

872
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: to play a whole year in the WNBA, and she

873
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: blocked me on total we have we have not in

874
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: real life for half.

875
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 2: The dose of sanity Here from cc a podcast listener

876
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 2: named Charles. He wanted to weigh in on this idea,

877
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 2: play it play Buck loved the show, but Clay, you

878
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 2: cannot be Angel.

879
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: I would love to see that though.

880
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 2: I think I honestly would love to Like I'll throw

881
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 2: money into this pot too. I'm excited about this idea.

882
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 2: I think if I trained, I would smoke her. My

883
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 2: eighth grade son his basketball team they offered to put

884
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 2: me through. This would be a good documentary. They were

885
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 2: gonna put me through training. They're pretty good. I think

886
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 2: they got some future d one. What are your Let's

887
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,879
Speaker 2: tell it so so my moves back in the day,

888
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 2: I like to go to the hoop. Yeah, I was

889
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 2: a shooter, but I like to go to the hoop.

890
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 2: I was a big double pump layup guy. That was

891
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 2: my favorite. You had an old man, white man game.

892
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we're young. I was big into boxing out.

893
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:20,959
Speaker 2: You know, I do that boxing out. The coach would

894
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 2: always be excited if you did that. Uh but what

895
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,479
Speaker 2: was your coach? Are you a skyhook guy?

896
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,919
Speaker 1: Since I would, I would so. First of all, I'm

897
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: forty six now, So my biggest concern about a one

898
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: on one matchup, and I'm just talking about half blowing

899
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 1: out your ACL probably oh yeah, or a bad sprained

900
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: ankle and not being able to finish the game. I

901
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: don't the Angel Reese makes about thirty five percent of

902
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: her shots, and I understand some of those are contested.

903
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,760
Speaker 1: She's not shooting more than five feet away from the basket.

904
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 1: I don't think she could make contested shots against me. Now,

905
00:48:56,200 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: I am concerned for the point guards or the shooting

906
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: guards who can handle the basketball. I think they could

907
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: get to the basket and make step back shots on me.

908
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,919
Speaker 1: I don't think Angel Reese could score on me. That's

909
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: why I get the old man hip check. You know

910
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 1: what I mean. You got throw that weight around a

911
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: little bit. I mean Angel Reese is six'. THREE i

912
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,479
Speaker 1: am six. FOOT i bet we probably jump about the same.

913
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: Height it's like she's gonna dunk on. ME i THINK

914
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,280
Speaker 1: i could box her. OUT i Think i'm a better

915
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 1: outside shooter Than Angel.

916
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 2: Reese and IF i got video of you popping the,

917
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 2: game IF i can see if you actually can. Shoot

918
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 2: IF i got to play with the girl sized, basketball

919
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 2: which is, SMALLER i could paulm that thing Like I'm shaquille.

920
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 2: O'Neill i would make a lot of outside. Shots if

921
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 2: it's like A papa. Shot remember When Ted cruz Played Jimmy.

922
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 2: Kimmel i'll tell YOU i would Smoke Jimmy kimmel in

923
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 2: one on. One do you think you could Beat Jimmy

924
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 2: kimmel on one on?

925
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 3: One?

926
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, now all, right all, right, YEAH i THINK

927
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 2: i would beat. You next question is you Versus. TED

928
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 2: i THINK i THINK i would Beat Ted. Kruz cad

929
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 2: you hear, That Senator Cruz. Haejing Senator cruz