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Speaker 2: On this Wednesday, Dan and the Dannet's Dan Patrick Show,

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Speaker 2: Alex Smith, former quarterback now working for the Mothership, will

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Speaker 2: stop by. We will talk about Steelers and some of

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Speaker 2: these coaching vacancies, but also look ahead to the games

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Speaker 2: coming up this weekend. You got Bill's Broncos. Saturday, you

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Speaker 2: got the Niners and the Seahawks, and then Sunday Texans, Patriots,

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Speaker 2: Rams and the Bears. I'm looking at some scenarios here.

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Speaker 2: DraftKings just sent me this the Super Bowl exact result odds.

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Speaker 2: The matchup that is the favorite according to DraftKings. Marvin,

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Speaker 2: I'll start with you. This is the matchup that is

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Speaker 2: leading the way. Broncos Rams, Broncos, Rams, Paul Bill, Seahawks,

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Speaker 2: Seaton Bills, Rams Todd Seahawks, Bills, Seahawks, Patriots, Seahawks, Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Let's run it back leading the ways. Run it yeah,

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Speaker 2: call a different play at the goal line, run it back. Yes.

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Speaker 2: Then it's the Rams, Patriots and Seahawks, Broncos and Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: Built they love the Seahawks here. So the Seahawks are

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Speaker 2: the top four Super Bowl matchups. The Seahawks are involved

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Speaker 2: in three of those, Patriots involved in two of those.

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Speaker 2: Then you have Rams, Broncos, Rams, Bills, Patriots, Seahawks. Then

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Speaker 2: you have down the list Broncos Seahawks is the tenth

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Speaker 2: best option. Yeah, so is this one of those.

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Speaker 3: Things where they really believe in the Seahawks and Patriots

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Speaker 3: or are they just daring you to bet it?

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Speaker 2: Like they want your money.

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Speaker 3: So they did that with those odds to like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 3: get people in.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know if people are buying into Seattle.

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Speaker 2: Therefore those odds would be Okay, Now I'm going to

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Speaker 2: put my money on this. For Seattle to have the

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Speaker 2: best odds to go to the Super Bowl, I would

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Speaker 2: be going in on somebody. Hm when I go in on, well,

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Speaker 2: these are the Super Bowl odds. So it's Seattle, then

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Speaker 2: the Rams. Then down its Patriots, Bills, Broncos, Texans, Bears, Niners.

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Speaker 2: If I was betting, I'd probably go with the Bears Niners,

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Speaker 2: one of those you know, long long odds. Seattle as

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Speaker 2: the best odds. By the way, the Gambling Podcast this week,

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Speaker 2: we will have that up on the website. After the show,

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Speaker 2: we'll be taping that Today with Shan Irving, Dylan and

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Speaker 2: address Dpadanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle at DP show. Good morning.

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Speaker 2: Say good morning to those who are listening to the

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Speaker 2: program as well. Feels like every couple of days I

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Speaker 2: give you an update on what's happening with the college

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Speaker 2: football playoffs. Just got some information there now they're going

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Speaker 2: to make this decision for next year's playoff format a

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Speaker 2: week from Friday. From what I'm told, the Big Ten

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Speaker 2: still wants a twenty four team championship. Now, this is

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Speaker 2: what might be going on, according to my source. He says,

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Speaker 2: I think there might be an agreement to go to sixteen,

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Speaker 2: with some commitment to either consider going to twenty four

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Speaker 2: or actually going to twenty four teams in three years

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Speaker 2: within three years. But the Big Ten wants to increase

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Speaker 2: the value of its regular season contracts because its media

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Speaker 2: agreements only run through twenty thirty. Just some of the

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Speaker 2: information that, as we've talked about for the last six weeks,

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Speaker 2: it feels like we're going to sixteen. The Big Ten

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Speaker 2: wants to have twenty four, they will make this decision. Now,

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Speaker 2: there's a chance they stay at twelve because they can't

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Speaker 2: agree on the sixteen and they don't want to go

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Speaker 2: to twenty four. But that'll be a week from Friday

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Speaker 4: Yes, Martin, if they go to twenty four teams, is

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Speaker 4: there gonna be more college football games than NFL games?

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Speaker 4: You've got to be playing seventeen eighteen games.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's what they have to figure out of How

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Speaker 2: many games is enough? How many games is too much?

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Speaker 2: And nobody has brought that up. You know, you know,

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Speaker 2: how many games are you going to have to play?

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Speaker 2: If you win a national title, you're going to play

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Speaker 5: Are you?

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Speaker 2: Are you going to get to twenty games? But you know,

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Speaker 2: I'll ask my source who's listening now, and then if

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Speaker 2: he has information, I'll pass that on to you. Seaton

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Speaker 3: Update you from hour one because I think it's kind

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Speaker 3: of fun. No, but almost nobody has Mike Tomlin coaching

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Speaker 2: I think it's challenging because then you're saying to people, Hey,

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Speaker 3: Curious to see where Marcus Freeman ends up. Yeah, him,

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Speaker 3: he's worth I'm definitely going to put him on that list.

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Speaker 3: I figure he would be ideal, you think so, I

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Speaker 3: can you know as a Steeler candidate. He's forty defensive

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Speaker 2: might be just he looks like a head coach. I

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Speaker 3: Candidate part of it. Yes, he's very impressive when you

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Speaker 2: A big jump. Yeah, I agree, Yeah, Paul.

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Speaker 2: Okay, here's something to keep in mind with this so

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Speaker 2: and it's certainly not a great offense. They are average

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Speaker 2: went all in on Aaron Rodgers. I think you thought

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Speaker 2: had Sam Donald. Now, I'm not saying Sam is a

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Speaker 2: great quarterback. I think he was unfairly marred by what

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Speaker 2: now you have nothing but Mason Rudolph. Yeah, Suton.

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Speaker 3: I feel I feel like if you're building around something,

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Speaker 2: I don't know who you build around now, Like I'm

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Speaker 2: not building around TJ. Watt. I've seen his best work.

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Speaker 2: It's an older team, Jalen Ramsey. I don't know. I

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Speaker 2: go on offense. I'm not the biggest DK Metcalf fan, but

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Speaker 2: Watts thirty one. Yeah, he's really the only.

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Speaker 3: Marquee player that you have at this point, right.

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Speaker 2: is he Marquee? It's a good name, but not really. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's more a curiosity for me where I

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Speaker 2: watch him. You know Mount Washington their tight end. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: ton of talent Pittsburgh doesn't. Yeh see. That's why I think.

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Speaker 3: That the next head coach in Baltimore, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: what that person's going to do with Lamar Jackson. Well,

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Speaker 3: employment is going to be directly tied to how do

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Speaker 2: I know it's tough because he's not running as much

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Speaker 2: owner held a press conference and he Steve Biscotti, and

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Speaker 2: he talked about Lamar Jackson having input on who's the

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Speaker 5: Eric made it clear to Lamar that when we get down.

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Speaker 8: Here talking to him, I think he's texting Lamar after

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Speaker 8: every interview, whether it's zoom or in person, and I

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Speaker 8: think he's getting some opinions from Lamar. I said to

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Speaker 8: you better get your ass up here too, because if

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Speaker 8: So I said to Lamar, you can jump on my

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Speaker 8: if you're that interested, then we're going to get a schedule.

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Speaker 8: He's going to call me up. He's going to offer

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, having some fun, having some laughs there,

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson involved in the process here. How about we

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Speaker 2: find an offensive coordinator who meshes with Lamar Jackson. That

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Speaker 2: to me would be a really key ingredient to this team.

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Speaker 2: Are they going to do anything? Big picture? There are

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Speaker 2: certain quarterbacks who were great regular season quarterbacks. There's we

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Speaker 2: know a handful of quarterbacks. When they get to the postseason,

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Speaker 2: it's just different. We've seen that down through history. You

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Speaker 2: get to the postseason and you go he's just different.

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Speaker 2: Lamar is not. That's been the problem. He can be

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Speaker 2: the best quarterback, but I need you to be the

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Speaker 2: best quarterback at the biggest time of the year, and

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Speaker 2: he has not been. Now, can I put that on hardball?

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Speaker 5: Sure?

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Speaker 2: Have they had misfortune here miss field goal, a couple

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Speaker 2: of drop passes or fumbles along the way. But that team,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you've got receivers, you got a tight end,

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Speaker 2: defensive players, you got a two time MVP at quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I mean you got to go to the conference title game.

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Speaker 2: We expect you to be in the conference title game. Yes, Tom,

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Speaker 2: if Lamar.

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Speaker 9: Would have answered that question in another way more positive

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Speaker 9: to Harball, like yeah, I fully expect him to be

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Speaker 9: he's on you know, they're on the same page, and

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Speaker 9: he wanted that coach back. Would that have changed how

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Speaker 9: things played out?

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say yes, But he didn't say that, and

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Speaker 2: that's why John Harbaugh was fired. It doesn't take long

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Speaker 2: and much effort for Lamar Jackson. If you say, hey,

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Speaker 2: do you want you know, coach Harball back, Yes, but

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Speaker 2: we got to figure out other things so we're not

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Speaker 2: in this same situation next year. So then I've taken

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Speaker 2: that off your plate now. But I keep going back

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Speaker 2: to that, Oh yeah, I do say, of course, and

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Speaker 2: then you move on whether you believe that or not.

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Speaker 2: Subscribe, hit that thumbs up icon and comment away, Amy,

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Speaker 2: Paulie's in my head. We were talking about t Steve Bushatti,

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Speaker 2: Uh. This in from on three. This has to do

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Speaker 2: at Utah. Good to see you again. I was wondering

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Speaker 12: Well, Dan, it's the best when they're the thing, the

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Speaker 5: You know, I feel I feel his pain.

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Speaker 12: You know, I had seven offensive coordinators in my first

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Speaker 12: Done in spite of all that volatility is incredible, Right, Like,

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Speaker 12: I think at some point it becomes a strength, Dan, Right, Like,

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Speaker 12: So I think that obviously Nick has been there again

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Speaker 2: But the terminology is probably kind of the same no

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Speaker 5: I think it's all the same there with Nick.

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Speaker 12: No, and I was in a different scenario where you know,

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Speaker 2: All right, let's look ahead to what Pittsburgh does now

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Speaker 5: To stay on the defensive side of the ball, young defense.

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Speaker 2: You know, they're not going for big ticket items here.

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Speaker 12: It does sound I mean, they've done such a great job.

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Speaker 12: They're they're going to go for a young coach that

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: To be seen.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that Mike Tomlin had read the room,

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Speaker 2: With two years left on his contract, he's Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 5: That's my point.

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Speaker 12: Like, I think in the media, this has been talked

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Speaker 12: It is a lot of pressure. It demands a commitment level, right,

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Speaker 12: I think something on that front. I don't think it

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Speaker 5: Again.

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Speaker 12: I think this guy's one of the most sought after,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the Ravens had no problem announcing they fired

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Speaker 5: Similar, similar. I would argue this, right, like, look at

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Speaker 5: those two rosters this year, Oh, I know, I.

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Speaker 12: Mean, I think you can make an argument one of

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Speaker 5: I'm not talking.

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Speaker 12: I'm obviously John Harbaugh's eighteen years are incredible, right, like,

434
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Speaker 12: potential Hall of Fame head coach. But this year I

435
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 12: think they greatly underachieved, right, that roster, that many all pros,

436
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Speaker 12: that many Pro Bowlers, You've got an MVP. I mean,

437
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Speaker 12: Lamar just came off arguably, arguably maybe the greatest season

438
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Speaker 12: of quarterback ever. And I know he was injured this

439
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Speaker 12: year and missed some time, but like that, you can't

440
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Speaker 12: be a fan of football look at that team and

441
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Speaker 12: say it didn't underachieve, especially the way the division was

442
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Speaker 12: this year, right, one of the worst divisions in football.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Alex Smith ESPN Sunday NFL Countdown, what is

444
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Speaker 2: it about certain quarterbacks when they get to the postseason,

445
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Speaker 2: Like there's certain quarterbacks who were regular season quarterbacks, but

446
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Speaker 2: then you get to the postseason, So what is that

447
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Speaker 2: that factor that somebody just plays better than the lights

448
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Speaker 2: of the brightest.

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Speaker 12: I mean, I think a lot has to go right

450
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Speaker 12: in this scenario. Like I'm thinking about justin Herbert when

451
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Speaker 12: you said that, and I know he's zero for three

452
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Speaker 12: and the playoffs and people are talking about this and that,

453
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Speaker 12: but like, I mean, he didn't have it. He was

454
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Speaker 12: overmatched in that game, right, and against the Patriots, and

455
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Speaker 12: as beat up as the Chargers were limping into the playoffs,

456
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Speaker 12: you know, I know they were hoping to be more

457
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Speaker 12: competitive in that game, but going across the country on

458
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Speaker 12: the road, like and we're just going to pin that

459
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Speaker 12: all on him, you know, I think in some ways. Again,

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Speaker 12: when you step back and look at the job he did,

461
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Speaker 12: like for them to even be in that position, I

462
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Speaker 12: think was you know, in some ways remarkable, right, I

463
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Speaker 12: think that was a positive. But you know it's the

464
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Speaker 12: nature of the quarterback position, you know this, right, Like

465
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Speaker 12: we get in these big moments, these winner take all

466
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Speaker 12: one game scenarios, right quarterbacks, Obviously, I think when you

467
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Speaker 12: when your team wins and you play well, this is

468
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Speaker 12: where you become legendary, right Like, this is where that

469
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Speaker 12: that kind of stuff happens. And so what goes into that, right,

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Speaker 12: Like what I think again, the ten guys in the huddle,

471
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Speaker 12: the matchup, the system, right, Like, the position you're put

472
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Speaker 12: in has a huge part of that. And again and

473
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Speaker 12: so but then obviously the guy's got to go out

474
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Speaker 12: there and and and and make the plays. I At

475
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Speaker 12: the same time, I think about Josh Allen right, like,

476
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Speaker 12: incredible playoff numbers, just absolutely incredible playoff numbers. But you know,

477
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Speaker 12: up until now, it's the guy that can't get it done,

478
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Speaker 12: right Like that, that's the stuff you hear, right like,

479
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Speaker 12: he can't get there and which is that because of Josh?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 12: Like that that's insane to say when you actually go

482
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Speaker 12: look at the play like that, there's not much else

483
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Speaker 12: he could do, and yet we want to pin that

484
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Speaker 12: on the quarterback. So sometimes I think that that kind

485
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Speaker 12: of narrative is is pretty unfair.

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Speaker 2: How would you defend Josh Allen if you're in good luck?

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Speaker 5: It's tough. It's really tough, listen.

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Speaker 12: I mean, I think you know when you look at

489
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Speaker 12: them from an offensive standpoint and you think about the

490
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Speaker 12: weapons and who you need to shut down. Obviously, it's

491
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Speaker 12: the best run game in football, and a lot of

492
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Speaker 12: it starts upfront with that, right James Cook obviously had

493
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Speaker 12: a phenomenal year.

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Speaker 5: Josh is a big part of that run game.

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Speaker 12: From there, you kind of move to their tight ends, right, Like,

496
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Speaker 12: they're pretty dynamic, both those tight ends, Kim kaid and knocks.

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Speaker 12: So much of what they do is tied end too,

498
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Speaker 12: the run game with play action pass right and over

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Speaker 12: the middle.

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Speaker 5: And so how are you going to take those guys away?

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Speaker 12: You know, they don't have big contributors on the outside, right,

502
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Speaker 12: Like they kind of piece it together on the outside, right,

503
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Speaker 12: And I know they just lost a couple guys to injury,

504
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Speaker 12: and so you're.

505
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Speaker 5: Gonna be piecing it together. Even more.

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Speaker 12: So, it's interesting when you got a guy like Patrick's rtan, right, like,

507
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Speaker 12: who's he gonna go take away? They don't necessarily these

508
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 12: aren't feature guys for them that play outside, and then

509
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 12: your instinct would be to play some man, right, certainly

510
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Speaker 12: because you're not necessarily afraid of some of these matchups

511
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Speaker 12: I just talk about in coverage. However, I think Josh

512
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Speaker 12: is kind of the guy that would really deter you

513
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Speaker 12: from that, right, Like, you don't want a lot of

514
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 12: backs turned running in coverage with this guy and the

515
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Speaker 12: ball in his hands, right, he can really make some

516
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 12: big plays with his legs. He can really extend plays.

517
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 12: It's hard to cover that long. So he's the biggest

518
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Speaker 12: deterrent against that. And I do think you're going to

519
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 12: see a heavy dose. You're going to see them spy

520
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 12: him a lot in this game, right this, let's not

521
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Speaker 12: let him get going again. Think about last year's playoff

522
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Speaker 12: game against the Denver Broncos. On that fourth down he

523
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 12: runs around for eight seconds and you know, dot's what

524
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Speaker 12: the running back in the back of the end zone

525
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Speaker 12: for that phenomenal play, right, Like any of you're the Broncos,

526
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Speaker 12: like we're not letting that happen again. Right, We've gotta

527
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 12: have some eyes on him. We've got to have some

528
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Speaker 12: defenders tracking him down.

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Speaker 2: I know that you're working with a company. We're looking

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Speaker 2: at concussions, you know. I go back to that what

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Speaker 2: twenty twelve game when you suffered a concussion and then

532
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Speaker 2: Kaepernick came in. Yep, did you know you were concussed?

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah immediately, Dan.

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Speaker 12: And it's funny, you know they this is and we've

535
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 12: learned this, like concussions very much are obviously a spectrum now, right,

536
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Speaker 12: Like I remember everything. I was very present, Like it

537
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 12: wasn't one of those things where I was like, you know,

538
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Speaker 12: you're out for me. It was a vision deal, you know,

539
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Speaker 12: And it was a it was a game that it

540
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 12: was at a candlestick and vision for me and one

541
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Speaker 12: o'clock kickoff and all of a sudden having trouble with

542
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Speaker 12: my vision right again. And I say it because it

543
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 12: was it was an incredible day of candlestick, really sunny,

544
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 12: really bright, and for me having trouble focusing my eyes,

545
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 12: having trouble with my vision, certainly having trouble with the brightness.

546
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Speaker 12: And I remember, it's one of those things where you're

547
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Speaker 12: you know, you're you're trying to blink it off, right,

548
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 12: You're trying to like work through it, and it's not working, right, Like,

549
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 12: it's not getting better. And you know, in that game specifically,

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Speaker 12: I remember, I mean, I continue to play. In fact,

551
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 12: I threw a touchdown pass as my last play I think,

552
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Speaker 12: and finally got to the sideline.

553
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Speaker 5: It was like a miracle.

554
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Speaker 12: I remember thinking like, I don't know how that just happened, right,

555
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 12: Like this kept thinking it would get better and it didn't.

556
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 5: Finally obviously getting out, you know, getting.

557
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Speaker 12: Myself out of the game in the sense that I

558
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 12: wasn't going to help us out there not being able

559
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 12: to see, and so it's scary. It's scary stuff, right.

560
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 12: I think it's for all football players. It's kind of

561
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 12: the looming scary thing, right, And like we don't we're

562
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 12: learning more, we don't know a whole lot about concussions.

563
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Speaker 2: What's the company you're working.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm with I'm with Oxyo Oxya Biopharma ox Eia,

565
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Speaker 12: And listen, I think that the number one thing for

566
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 12: all of us is there are no approved treatments and right, like,

567
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 12: there are no approved tests for concussions. Like when it

568
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 12: comes to treatment of concussions, it's the same as it

569
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 12: was twenty forty fifty, one hundred years ago, right, Like

570
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 12: we're still kind of in the stone age.

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Speaker 5: It's just hey, rest up, how do you feel? You know?

572
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 12: And again still learning the consequences of some of these things,

573
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 12: and so just pumped to partner with Oxya and to

574
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 12: try to be a solution, right, to try to find

575
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Speaker 12: some answers to try to figure this out.

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Speaker 2: And how often are you tested? Like do do a yearly?

577
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 5: Well, there are no tests there.

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Speaker 12: I mean, obviously there's these baseline tests where you can

579
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 12: kind of take they're cognitive right in that sense, they're

580
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 12: you know, processing, but they don't they can't definitively define

581
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Speaker 12: whether or not you've had a concussion.

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00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 2: Nothing can but MRI cat scan none of that will

583
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Speaker 2: show up.

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Speaker 5: Like those help.

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Speaker 12: Those help, and they certainly help, I think with more

586
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 12: severe ones. But the vast majority that happened on the

587
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 12: football field, the vast majority I think that happened for

588
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,479
Speaker 12: people in their lives. Like I can't tell you how

589
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 12: many parents come up to me constantly, right and like, hey,

590
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 12: my my child had a concussion doing something, and like

591
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 12: what can I do for them?

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Speaker 11: Right?

593
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 12: Like, what what can help? And again there's just there's

594
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 12: just nothing there right in. The NFL has taking steps,

595
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 12: We've seen changes in the kickoff rule right to make

596
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 12: it safer. We've seen helmets try to get better, but

597
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 12: there still is nothing here on the treatment side. And

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00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 12: again I think just just pumped a partner with Oxya

599
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 12: in the sense that if somebody trying to do something right,

600
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 12: someone trying finally trying to change that narrative. And for

601
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 12: anybody that wants to go learn more, go to Oxia

602
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 12: Biopharma dot com.

603
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 5: You know company.

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00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 12: Again, I think that is onto something but really trying

605
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 12: to trying to make a difference.

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Speaker 5: Are you.

607
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Speaker 2: One record is saying the Rams could put up fifty

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Speaker 2: on the Bears.

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Speaker 12: You know, listen, hey kay got me on and it

610
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 12: was like, hey, first thing, that is going to be

611
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 12: a high scoring game. I haven't checked the weather. That's

612
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 12: always like a part of this when you're playing at

613
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Speaker 12: Chicago in January. But I'm just that defense, Chicago's defense,

614
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Speaker 12: the way they're playing. I know they've feasted on turnovers

615
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 12: all year, but especially against this system like they just

616
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 12: went to they just went to San Francisco played the

617
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Speaker 12: Niners and I think they got forty eight put up

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Speaker 12: on them. It's the exact same system, and you could argue,

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Speaker 12: you know, the group they have in LA with the

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Speaker 12: Rams is maybe more Dyna.

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Speaker 2: Weather's going to be thirteen degrees.

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Speaker 5: All right, well, listen again.

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Speaker 12: I think it's going to be high scoring whether or

624
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 12: not they actually get the fifty burger, but I think

625
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 12: they're going to put up some points. I don't think

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00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 12: there's a whole lot of love loss between these coaching

627
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Speaker 12: staffs either.

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Speaker 2: Great to talk to you again. I hope you're doing

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Speaker 2: well and thanks for sharing same damn. Thanks for having

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Speaker 2: me Alex Smith joining us on the program. I go

631
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Speaker 2: back to when he was a Heisman Trophy finalist at

632
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Speaker 2: Utah that that was an incredible run that year and

633
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Speaker 2: sixteen years in the NFL. All right, we'll take a break.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Zach. What do you have for me?

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Speaker 10: Laurn Dan first time, long time, six foot one ninety five.

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Speaker 10: If I were the Pittsburgh Steelers front office, I would

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Speaker 10: at least reach out, take a couple of minutes and

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Speaker 10: reach out engage the interest of Mike McCarthy for the

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Speaker 10: Pittsburgh Steelers head coaching job.

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Speaker 5: He's got a.

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Speaker 10: Proven track record, won a Super Bowl, and he's from Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 10: A couple other quick comments the movie Primate, I've already

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Speaker 10: seen that it was called Kujo. And finally, I think Dougwites,

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Speaker 10: you need to reach out and find out a way

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Speaker 10: to make Dugwits the official white of Crappensburg State.

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Speaker 2: Oh. I like that, Thank you, Zach. You know Pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: likes the younger quarterback, younger coordinator. Do you want somebody

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Speaker 2: there for twenty years, nineteen years, eighteen years, McCarthy's sixty two.

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Speaker 2: Now you're not bringing in John Harbaugh for fifteen years.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's the formula that's worked for them

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Speaker 2: and they'll probably stick to them. John in Indianapolis, Hi, John,

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Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 6: Good morning Dan?

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Speaker 5: How are you good?

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Speaker 2: John?

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Speaker 6: Good so, Indianapolis now via Chicago.

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Speaker 5: So I'm big.

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Speaker 6: I'm excited about the Bears question I have for you

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Speaker 6: because you mentioned it in a few minutes ago. Well,

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Speaker 6: you escorted out by security when you left ESPN.

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Speaker 2: Not officially. They just they let me stay a little

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Speaker 2: bit longer. They let me stay a little bit longer

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Speaker 2: than normal. But I did have friends and when they left,

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Speaker 2: they were escorted. Somebody was there with them when they

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Speaker 2: were leaving the building. A producer who went to Fox

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Speaker 2: and did their pregame show, created that pregame show. He

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Speaker 2: was escorted out. Like you're watching it, I'm thinking what

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Speaker 2: do they think Scott's going to be taking But no,

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Speaker 2: they were. They let me stay a few days longer

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Speaker 2: after I had said that I was, but I was

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Speaker 2: doing radio. They still allowed me to do radio for

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Speaker 2: a couple of days. And then some of the ESPN

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Speaker 2: affiliates pushed back and said, well, he's not going to

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Speaker 2: be here, why are we allowing him to still do

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Speaker 2: his job. Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: If it's about how much they're going to steal rather

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Speaker 3: it as a people tend to be upset when they

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Speaker 3: get fired.

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Speaker 2: Let's avoid any issues. Yeah, you know, well I didn't

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Speaker 2: get fired.

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Speaker 3: Now, but I go into my boss's office and tell

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Speaker 3: him what I think now that I can't be fired

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Speaker 3: since I just was, how about I tell everybody here

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Speaker 3: what I think of him?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but this guy quit and went to Fox. So

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Speaker 2: we're doing Sports Center that night and the guy, Scott Akerson,

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Speaker 2: who was a great coordinating producer, he says, hey, I

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Speaker 2: got this job. They want me to create the Fox

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Speaker 2: pregame show, and I said take it. He goes and

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Speaker 2: he kind of you know, it wasn't sure because you

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Speaker 2: don't leave ESPN. And I just remember it felt like

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Speaker 2: it was early evening, and I said, take the job, man.

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Speaker 2: So he tells management and that he's taken the job,

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Speaker 2: and that's it. He's out the door. He was done. Yeah, PAULI.

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Speaker 7: As you know, Dan, I was at ESPN in one

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Speaker 7: of those situations and three people were fired and I

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Speaker 7: was at work at my desk and I watched the

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Speaker 7: hr slash security person walk to the desk, walked them out,

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Speaker 7: and one of the people I had to bring him

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Speaker 7: his cell phone and his keys because they didn't give

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Speaker 7: a chance to grab his selling keys.

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Speaker 2: And it is a wild scene.

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Speaker 7: I've never seen that in persons.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I did not get escorted out, but I

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Speaker 2: did witness that.

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Speaker 5: Escorted.

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Speaker 7: It's such a non nice word and not the right

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Speaker 7: word for when you get fired. You're not escorted.

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Speaker 2: It's not a pleasant experience. Yeah, allow me to escort you. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Nate in La Hi, Nate, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 11: Hey? Dan?

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Speaker 4: I hope I could catch one of your shows a

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Speaker 4: San Francisco during Super Bowl week.

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Speaker 3: I called to give you praise.

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Speaker 9: For the influence you had on Cam Newton's TV podcast

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Speaker 9: career so far.

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Speaker 11: That being said, have you been invited to the cookout yet?

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Speaker 10: And do you know what you're going to bring.

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Speaker 2: I have not been invited to Marvin's cookout or cam

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Speaker 2: Newton's cookout, but I look forward to that, and I

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Speaker 2: would probably confer with Marvin on what I should bring

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Speaker 2: to a cookout. Yes, mar you can bring ice, ice, ice,

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Speaker 2: alcohol you like? Okay, join us please, okay? But no food? No, no, no, no, okay.

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Speaker 4: It's almost like Thanksgiving. You gotta know who's making what

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Speaker 4: I'm not eating. Everybody's cooking, like, oh who made that?

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Speaker 5: Aunt?

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Speaker 4: Beatrice made that?

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Speaker 5: Ell?

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Speaker 4: No, thank you? Okay.

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Speaker 2: It feels like it's a slight towards me that I

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Speaker 2: can't bring food. Well, like my wife would be the

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Speaker 2: one cooking. Oh wait, well, I said, who brought the

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Speaker 2: tuna casserole? That guy very very true. I bet it

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Speaker 2: was him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it is funny going back to that, Hey white bread,

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Speaker 4: did you bring?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 2: I did, iron for sure.

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Speaker 4: Who about the green bean casserole?

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Speaker 2: Who do you think made that.

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Speaker 3: A lot of mayonnaise heavy salads?

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Speaker 4: Unfortunately?

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Speaker 2: Man, how about I just bring some tequila? Oh?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all you, that's okay, Yeah, of course, all right.

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Speaker 4: My family doesn't really partake, but by all means they are.

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Speaker 2: Not, but the other side of the family does.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they drank Hennessy and I was like, wow.

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Speaker 2: No, I can't do that. Well, I wouldn't bring hennessy.

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Speaker 2: I would have a little bit of Hennessy if I

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Speaker 2: got there.

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Speaker 4: Oh, they definitely would. They would go.

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Speaker 5: Oh, sports center.

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Speaker 4: Because as Ice Cubes told you, brothers got cable. Oh

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Speaker 4: that's still you're good everywhe vp you know who you are.

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Speaker 2: Of course I know when ice Cube said that to me,

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Speaker 2: he goes, brothers got cable, because I said if I

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Speaker 2: went into Compton, and he was like, brothers got cable.

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Speaker 2: Brothers got for sure.

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Speaker 4: Because if somebody didn't know you, you know what that

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Speaker 4: is Sports center, that's the best.

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Speaker 2: There's a great line. Adam in Michigan. Hi, Adam, what's

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Speaker 2: on your mind?

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Speaker 10: Hey?

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Speaker 13: Dan, gotta be careful of bringing ice to barbecues these days.

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Speaker 2: But either way, yeah, also the whity Yeah, the white

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Speaker 2: guy brought ice.

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Speaker 13: Six clip bear one eight down Arizona. And my question

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Speaker 13: is for Polly and Marvin on the jerseys. If Denver

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Speaker 13: announces they're going to wear their throwbacks, is that worth

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Speaker 13: a one point swing either way? And does any other

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Speaker 13: team have that kind of sway when it comes to jerseys, Okay, Todd, I.

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Speaker 9: Am extremely hopeful that they're going to wear those nineteen

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Speaker 9: seventy seven throwbacks.

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Speaker 4: I think it's worth a one and a half point

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Speaker 4: different than the point.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully they don't do like that blue uniform. Didn't they

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Speaker 2: have one of those?

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Speaker 4: I don't like. I don't really like any of their

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Speaker 4: other ones except.

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Speaker 2: For the throwback, the orange crush, the Orech scrush, Yes, Morman.

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Speaker 4: The Seahawks if they brought up their throwbacks two point.

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Speaker 2: Okay, are we doing Jim Zorn like the Steve Larging

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Speaker 2: or do you want that lime green like the Steve Largin? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Chris Warren era, Chris Warren, Yeah, Paulie. I think it's

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Speaker 2: the opposite.

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Speaker 7: I think all teams in the playoffs should wear their

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Speaker 7: standard uniforms. I was watching the college football playoffs the

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Speaker 7: other day and a couple teams wore like different uniforms.

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Speaker 7: Even the Bears the other day went blue on blue.

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Speaker 7: You should wear whatever standard like Oregon had another whacky uniform.

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Speaker 7: Wear your standard for playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Two hours in the books on this Wednesday, one more

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Speaker 2: to go, or of your phone calls. We have a

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Speaker 2: new poll question as well EH seven seven to three

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