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Speaker 1: It was good, you know, right that, what's up?

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Speaker 3: What's up? Love you, bro?

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's get right to it. We had Cam

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Speaker 1: New York City production superstars. What did you think when

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Speaker 1: you saw that? Because that's kind of how this whole

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Speaker 3: No, he got on my ass.

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Speaker 1: I was going for I was reposting it too.

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Speaker 4: I was guessing yea, y'all was totally leaving New York out.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I wasn't loving the narrative on New

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Speaker 4: loving that, and y'all left me out. Y'all named twenty

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Speaker 4: come on, that's crazy stacking Cam.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, crazy, charged to my head, not my heart, dog

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Speaker 4: It's so many and about basketball no more. After I

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Speaker 1: You know, we had a dope We had a dope interview.

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Speaker 3: The whole funny part about the video is with Mace

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Speaker 4: Cam pas That's the whole That ship was hilarious. That

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Speaker 4: Man, you seen Kim and Jimmy play one on one

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Speaker 4: I'm getting to some basketball love.

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Speaker 3: Everybody speak highly about his game facts.

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Speaker 4: He come on, stop it. I would have wrapped him around,

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Speaker 1: You know, you know I seen it.

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Speaker 2: Oh God, I would have got him. Let's jump back

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Speaker 2: to high school, Lincoln High School. I went to Lincoln

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Speaker 2: But you know, Steph definitely said a standarday, but you

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Speaker 4: Man, my experience in Lincoln was kind of dope. I

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Speaker 1: Tell you the.

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Speaker 4: Truth, like now, like I'm thirty eight, like I've been

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Speaker 4: I was just like, I don't know, I had an impact.

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Speaker 2: To, graduated New York City's all time leading score, which

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Speaker 3: All the people that come through here. You was getting

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Speaker 4: What I was thinking about it. I was like, it's

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Speaker 4: I'm like, come on, we definitely, uh, come on, we

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Speaker 4: we was on payroad since fifth grade with Nike, and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I gotta run it back because one thing I

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Speaker 4: I had a couple of cars. I had a couple

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Nissan is my only brand new car.

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Speaker 4: We was going up to cleans to the light getting

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Speaker 4: I used to be driving that thing and it from

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Speaker 2: It felt like a Ferrari for high school or so

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Speaker 2: is it true? Magic put your dad on a plane

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I forgot about that too, like we did.

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Speaker 4: We did so much. Tell me how that came about.

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Speaker 4: I forget what.

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Speaker 4: I think maybe my junior year when I was being

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Speaker 4: Steph was like, hold on, I did that. Georgia Tech

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Speaker 4: signed with Magic Johnson. I don't know what he was pitching,

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Speaker 4: but telling the running back right right, running back?

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Speaker 3: Where did you rank in terms of the most famous

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Speaker 4: We said most famous.

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Speaker 2: with lebron Shake Cotton. You know who else, Ronnie Fields,

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Speaker 4: Brownly had two points that game. Everybody from New York

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Speaker 1: That's dope. Then the Sports Illustrated cover, all.

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Speaker 4: It was definitely a lot of motion. It was definitely

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Speaker 3: Mhm.

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Speaker 1: Adidas deal another Adidas baby, How old were you when

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: You said the deal kind of gave you comfort. Did

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Speaker 4: No, didas deal supposed to give me some comfort. Didasville

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Speaker 4: actually never gave me comfort? Now maybe maybe uh comfort,

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Speaker 1: Any thoughts about college, I'm sorry, any thoughts about college?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was going to go to If I was

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Speaker 4: I was going. That's where I was gonna go.

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Speaker 1: Who was on those teams? That was the west that

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Speaker 1: They're after you. See you are like airon to follow?

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Speaker 3: Here I'm talking about was he talking about that's where

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Universe Yeah yeah yeah. The Louisville thing kind of

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Speaker 3: That was just.

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Speaker 4: Through the Fire came about because it was just so lit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they were smart. These were some smart people saying

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Speaker 4: They watched through the fire, and I was like, this

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Speaker 4: I don't know, you know how God worked though, that

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Speaker 1: I mean, you had a lot of people come through

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Speaker 3: Spike Lee. We had Spike Lee.

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Speaker 1: That's dope.

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Speaker 4: We have Spike Lee in the building. And we all

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Speaker 4: get back to Adidas too. We ain't letting the Dadas

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Speaker 4: even the owners of the NBA. During my time in

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Speaker 1: You never touched under that.

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Speaker 4: It was fifteen million dollars salary base and then they

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Speaker 4: You know you're gonna hit like average twenty one minutes.

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Speaker 4: That type of shit seventeen percent from the feeth throw line.

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Speaker 4: I was Adidas baby. Basically, I'm the first and only

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Speaker 4: was in high school, Like you know for Peanuts that

440
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,960
Speaker 4: s thirty one t that the kids talk about. I

441
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,880
Speaker 4: see it all in the comments. I used to wear

442
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:56,360
Speaker 4: that band when I started doing that. Me and Jay Frost,

443
00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:00,639
Speaker 4: you know my guy from Cornyellen he Versu with Flawless.

444
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 4: They got the frost Bite Show and all that, but

445
00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,880
Speaker 4: he's alumni Lincoln. He made that for me and then

446
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,399
Speaker 4: Adidas seen that on me and they started putting. Then

447
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 4: I seen the T mag one whatever whatever. They started

448
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,920
Speaker 4: doing that for all Adida guys. So I've been around

449
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 4: Adidas for this for a long time. And when you

450
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 4: watch the movie, like I said, this, the Bro Day

451
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 4: and Through the Fire kind of go hand in hand

452
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 4: because that's where they came to my community and watch

453
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 4: me play at right. So then when we get Adidas,

454
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 4: they understand that we coming from kind of a street

455
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 4: ball setting. You know what I'm saying, We're from Cony Allen,

456
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 4: We're playing street ball. The N one mixtape and all

457
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 4: that stuff is lit at the time. And when they

458
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 4: asks Adidas why y'all signed Sebastian, they said for street credibility,

459
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:49,920
Speaker 4: Like that's what they answer us, and regular living my

460
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 4: regular life, some street terminof where I was a complete victim,

461
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 4: complete victim in the situation and they get to snatch

462
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 4: the money back off the rip a year two years

463
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 4: into the deal, and I'm like, Nah, that wasn't protecting me,

464
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 4: That wasn't that wasn't helping me at all. Facts because

465
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 4: if they would have put any type of the only

466
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 4: thing they said, if you don't get drafted, the deal

467
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 4: is void. Other than that that's supposed to been my money.

468
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 4: I ain't going for that. And when they took that

469
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 4: money back, me and my family never functioned the same way.

470
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 4: That's why my career was like that and everybody looking

471
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 4: at me like what's wrong? Like what's wrong? Fuck? Y'all

472
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:33,399
Speaker 4: mean was wrong? A lot was wrong facts, And I

473
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 4: kind of today, I kind of blame that on the

474
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 4: data because if you come get my son right now,

475
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 4: and I'm watching you with my son and taking care

476
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 4: of my son, and then y'all walk them all the

477
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 4: way over there, and then the first hurdle he got

478
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 4: to jump over, y'all, don't jump over that hurdle with him.

479
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 4: I would have a problem with that facts, Like a

480
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,919
Speaker 4: real problem like that, like a real problem, like a

481
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 4: real problem. So where's that sh like did you assume them?

482
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 4: Like where's it staying? Like it was so much shit

483
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 4: going on. Nobody cared about that money at the time.

484
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 4: It ain't makes sense. And I was a kid, so

485
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 4: I didn't understand that I was protecting my security. You

486
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, saying my security. When I mean

487
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,360
Speaker 4: my security, people mean like you being safe. No, when

488
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 4: you become an adult, when you're not a kid no more.

489
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 4: The most important thing that you're gonna I'm talking to

490
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 4: the kids now, the most important thing you're gonna have

491
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 4: going on is your subcurity. You having the welfare to

492
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 4: take care of yourself, you having a house, a car,

493
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,360
Speaker 4: some income, the way to take care of your babies.

494
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 4: That shit, the number one thing adults is thinking about.

495
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 4: I'm not guessing, I'm telling y'all. So them taking that

496
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 4: away from me, like I was supposed to stop everything

497
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,439
Speaker 4: with and got the lawyers and went and fought with

498
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 4: them about that money facts, and they see I'm not

499
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 4: functioning right after look at my first two years perfectly fine,

500
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 4: they take the money, I'm like a whole different player.

501
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 4: So I asked myselfing, like, not to keep putting Braun

502
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 4: in my story because Braun, No, I love them. I

503
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 4: don't have not a single bad bone for Braun, Like

504
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 4: I'm braun biggest fan when it comes to it, right,

505
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 4: But take the Nikes off of Braun his second year?

506
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 4: Does that help Braun? Did Nike take John Morin money?

507
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 4: It don't make sense, so why or how they was

508
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 4: able to take that. So I bring that to light

509
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 4: because I'm like, yeah, at some point I would like

510
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 4: an answer and Adidas. Maybe they do want to give

511
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 4: an answer. They probably got an excuse, but it's only

512
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 4: excuse because, like I said, you will never be able

513
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 4: to explain to me if you I'm watching you with

514
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 4: my son. My son is fourteen years old. I'm watching

515
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 4: you and give my fourteen year old son money fifteen,

516
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 4: sixteen seventeen, him wearing your product, You fly him all

517
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 4: over the country and then you give him some money

518
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 4: to make his decision, because I mean that shit would

519
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 4: make anybody's decision. You keep it a band with you

520
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 4: if you got to, you go to college and not

521
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,479
Speaker 4: and they put twenty million dollsand fun of what you're

522
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 4: gonna do. You didn't want to hear nothing about college.

523
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 4: So I feel like with that money should be guaranteed. Facts.

524
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: Was it guaranteed in the contract?

525
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 3: Yep.

526
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 4: If you don't get drafted, the contract is void. Other

527
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 4: than that, that's your money.

528
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it real. Bron's gonna do with thing

529
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 1: in some flip flops. But I understand what you're I

530
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: agree with you mentality, I agree with you.

531
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 4: But Michael Joans sit there and he was said, right now,

532
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 4: Matt wrong, I come to do that without Nike, because

533
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 4: it's how you do it. I said, the way we was,

534
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 4: I became that fenom is with them on my side

535
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 4: in high school, right, So, no, you don't become brown,

536
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 4: don't come brown without Nike like that, y'all. No, stop now,

537
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 4: honest what you're saying with monipflops and the numbers and

538
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 4: all that, but stop it, bro. So you're trying to

539
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 4: tell me that joints don't help join. Joints don't help

540
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 4: join mentally. As far as what just the mentality you're

541
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 4: trying to tell me join sneakers and everybody having his

542
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 4: sneakers on did not help Michael join mentality, I would

543
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 4: disagree with you.

544
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I think at the end of the day,

545
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: they was gonna hoop regardless.

546
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 4: Those for sure, for sure, But it's levels and the

547
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 4: ceilings to when you're going through your journey and opportunity

548
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 4: that you get. Nike set those out a different type

549
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 4: of way and now if it goes right and you're

550
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 4: a great player, Yes, they they accolates helped Nike also,

551
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 4: But now I'm matt, stop it. Stop you still about

552
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 4: the commerciales the regard thinking about hold on, so you

553
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,199
Speaker 4: try to tell me about he wouldn't be and he

554
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 4: was wearing who's some of the player for he was

555
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 4: wearing shacks. He had to wear shacks.

556
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 3: If he was wearing shacks, he wouldn't be Lebron yesterday.

557
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 4: No, the commercials and all that. Yeah, he probably have

558
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 4: his numbers, but no, he won't be Lebron.

559
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: No, you're talking about like the business.

560
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 4: It all goes hand in hand to become the icon

561
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 4: at the end of the day. So you're me in

562
00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 4: my head.

563
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 1: Talking about actually playing. You're talking about the overall playing

564
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: to No, these motherfucker's gonna do what they're gonna do.

565
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 4: I told you what Kobe said to me. Y'all can't

566
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 4: got me. Y'all got here on the bus. I watch

567
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 4: y'all get on the bus. I got him a helicopter.

568
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 4: I ain't even know Kobe tek helicopter at the time.

569
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 4: I'm rest in peace like your soul. Kobe in the

570
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 4: locker room, so I'm like, oh, ship like his. We

571
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 4: can't guard him because he's taking that You feel me

572
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 4: is levels. It's levels, man, I know you don't understand

573
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 4: you You probablyn't have your own sneaker's levels. No, I'm

574
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 4: not even levels.

575
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 1: Argue about the levels. What I will argue about is

576
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 1: this that would be still MJ would.

577
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 4: Be on the give.

578
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 3: Monster.

579
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 4: I asked that machine Habachi. But that's not taking as

580
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 4: mister Habachi asked, mister Hebachi, agent zero, one of the

581
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 4: hardest dudes to guard in the league, ask him, ask

582
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 4: him he was Hibachi with them Adidas on with that

583
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,479
Speaker 4: contract before any term on. Nobody looking at him crazy.

584
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 4: So he got so we got into more. He said

585
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 4: to himself. He got hurt though too, he got hurt.

586
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 4: He didn't mention he got hurt. He was. He didn't

587
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 4: mention that. Let me tell you what he said. Let

588
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 4: me tell you what he said, Matt, let me tell

589
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 4: you what he said. He said, after the situation in

590
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 4: the locker room, when I got back on the court,

591
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 4: I noticed everything outside of the night that the lines,

592
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 4: That's what he said. Man, No, I.

593
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 1: Agree, that could probably penetrate this kryptonite war for sure.

594
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 4: Anything penetrating the mental and you're done.

595
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 1: I'm not going with Broun and MJ though, But let

596
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: we can move.

597
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 4: You name it too, dude, So it's that's that's type

598
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 4: of hard. But Matt, stop, Well, I'm telling you I'm

599
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 4: telling you, no, I'm not getting up there. I'm not

600
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 4: getting up there winning three championships, all that movie book

601
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 4: and all that, and would end up being without Adidas.

602
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 4: And I get already taking care of my family, me

603
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,719
Speaker 4: seeing my mama straight off this and all that. You're bugging, Yeah, Bud,

604
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 4: you could be like that. Nah, I can't function out

605
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 4: seeing my mom straight off for y'all out there and

606
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 4: practice doing all that shit. Facts.

607
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I guess that's you respect.

608
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 4: That's Braun Brown Wild say you're best, not with anything,

609
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 4: what's stop it. We was already, we was already in

610
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 4: high school, already getting the little extra stuff, and we

611
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 4: was already had that mental edge on dudes. It's a

612
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 4: mental edge whether you want to look at me, whether

613
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 4: you want to agree or not. It's a mental edge

614
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 4: when you walk out there, dudes, got your sneakers on.

615
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 4: I don't know Michael. I don't know Michael joined but

616
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 4: I've seen stories of him saying when when he's getting

617
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 4: bumping thums with people. Wait, it was the first thing

618
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 4: he mentioned that take my goddamn shoes off. So don't

619
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 4: tell me that's not a mental agg I had my

620
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 4: own sleeakers in the stores, hot tops and low tops.

621
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 4: That says a bash in Telfairshi wrote my nickname on them,

622
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 4: that said Bassie. So don't tell me if you don't know,

623
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 4: don't tell me. D Wade, don't tell d Wade the

624
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 4: way the didn't want to wear no other shoes. He

625
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 4: don't care them, ship, said Chang Chain. That's just better,

626
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 4: said d Wade on it, don't tell me if you

627
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 4: don't know, you don't know.

628
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: No, I don't know what I.

629
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's levels to it. West Brooks, Westbrook, he got

630
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 4: Westbrooks out there, but a lot.

631
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: Of but hold on, but Kobe went from Nike to

632
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: or from Adidas to Nike. Why did he didn't go.

633
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 4: From he and she still said co Bran on it,

634
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 4: he went from He went from where he should have

635
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 4: signed where he was and where you should have signed

636
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 4: off the off, the get go, point.

637
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: Blank should have been Nike. I ain't tripping off that.

638
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 4: No, I really we could. We could agree to disagree

639
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 4: with Matt. I really feel that. Yeah, you know, I mean,

640
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 4: you got your life, your life. I'm not I'm telling

641
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 4: you like Braun, Yes, Braun got a mental edge. Right now,

642
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 4: you're thinking you see all the kids with his sneakers

643
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 4: on all that. If you think that don't play no

644
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 4: effect on.

645
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: A mental edge.

646
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 4: But mother, my b my mom got a Lamborghini that

647
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 4: don't have that don't have Come on, bro, stop it.

648
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 4: That do play effect on the game. So that's why

649
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 4: you do get dudes in the league.

650
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 2: And I would say this though, if I had my

651
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 2: own shoe and I was playing against the nigga and

652
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 2: he walked there with my shoes.

653
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: On, make you I give what you're saying the mental side,

654
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: but I'm talking about just game.

655
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 4: That's the rock.

656
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 3: You wanna take a picture after the game? Two nigga

657
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 3: my shoes.

658
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: A couple of people though, didn't they We just like,

659
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: what what what role did jay Z play in your life?

660
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 4: Oh? Man, I could have never met J and J

661
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 4: able to play the role in my life. He would

662
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 4: have been with you. But J just live like JJ

663
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 4: just one of the real ones. Stat terminology like he

664
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 4: just he just run the real ones say the truth.

665
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 4: But it goes well, maybe just me Matt with me

666
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 4: knowing me knowing jay Z and jay Z my man's

667
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 4: at the game. Yeah yeah, I'm not going to the

668
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 4: guarding and losing like Jay z is with me like

669
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,719
Speaker 4: like what are y'all talking about? Like, So it's that

670
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 4: type of game. But Jada men like all the experiences

671
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 4: around j was super cool. J Ben Jay the whole time.

672
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 4: Jay been super rich like the whole time, like relationship,

673
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 4: And No, I ain't really been around just coming back outside.

674
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 4: But I know if I bumped into Jays.

675
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 3: Gonna be picked right back up.

676
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 4: It'd be up. Yeah, that's a fact.

677
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 3: I hope.

678
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 2: I hope y'all bump into each other because I know

679
00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 2: about that dynamic with you and them.

680
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 4: That's the fact. That's the fact. No, J's super dope. Me.

681
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 4: Me and Jay was at one night we in Baseline

682
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 4: Studios and him and Wan going to the game and

683
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 4: I'm air hustling. I'm like, I want to go to

684
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 4: the game. And one turned to be like, all right,

685
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 4: get back see my ticket. All right, So Jay was

686
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 4: like me and me at twelve o'clock on the side,

687
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 4: don't relate. I'm like, all right, I'm there ten o'clock.

688
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 4: It's so funny. It was me and Joe Budden's was

689
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 4: over there. I don't know who Joe Bunn's paying for.

690
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 4: That's just my mental thought in the story, right, So

691
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 4: Jay get there, get out the may back. I walk

692
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 4: with him, and shit, he going through his pockets like

693
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 4: he just got in from the night. Take his chain out,

694
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 4: the big rock chain. I'm like, let me wear. He's like, nah,

695
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 4: you're not getting me trouble. Put it back in his pocket.

696
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 4: So we get to the seats. Y'all mean was playing,

697
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 4: so I'm like stuck. It's my first time seeing y'all mean.

698
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 4: And somebody from the Knicks came over and he was like, Jay,

699
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 4: we gave you these tickets tonight, so you can't give

700
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 4: us a bash in the ticket. You gonna get us

701
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 4: in trouble. And Jay ignored them completely like that jas

702
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 4: seventeen eighteen hundred particular right there, went right back into

703
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 4: the game. I remember just watching like this like I

704
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 4: would have I would have went, you could have handed.

705
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 3: Me the two.

706
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 4: I went outside watching it on the TV now. But

707
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 4: j been cool the whole time, like, yo, let me

708
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 4: get the maid back here. Facts. I ain't never had

709
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 4: to ask for nothing.

710
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: Facts.

711
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 4: Jay just knew the vibe like they gave me the

712
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 4: ice watch all that, like Jay, jasus j JJ facts,

713
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 4: although you did well in high school off the court too.

714
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: Can you imagine being in this social media era with

715
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: your style of game and where they could really give

716
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: you the millions of dollars and it's not have to

717
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: hide or be in trouble for it. Everyone's making the

718
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: mixtape now, Like, can you imagine what you could have

719
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: done in this TikTok and instagram.

720
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 2: Trash getting paid on Instagram for just dribbling and looking

721
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 2: being trash bags.

722
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 4: I like, I like my era better because it wasn't

723
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 4: every body right, So I feel like, now, yeah, I'll

724
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 4: be warded down right now for sure.

725
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, we like what kind of money?

726
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 3: Though?

727
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you could have made it in

728
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: a real nil where they could have really came and

729
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: gave you Like here, bat you take this too.

730
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 2: Like.

731
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 4: Because you were already pretty much doing I mean, if

732
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 4: I'm dominating, dominating the same way, but now it's kind

733
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 4: of different. I feel like the popular kids, the popular

734
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 4: kids is kind of getting them situations. Well I would

735
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 4: have been one of them kids because that's my cousin also,

736
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 4: so I would have ate right now, what yeah, what

737
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 4: they said the highest like five million? Like what a

738
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 4: little BRONI got, Like somebody got like five to seven

739
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 4: million year. That would have been crazy.

740
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 1: Can you imagine that?

741
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 4: And then Instagram, Oh I would have been getting a

742
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 4: baddies then like yes, I would have been getting all

743
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 4: American chicks. Mmm.

744
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 2: Two thousand and four, you could you decline for the

745
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 2: NBA draft, you get you go to Portland to like

746
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 2: the number thirteen. It seems like that would be a

747
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 2: great situation there for you because you got Damon st

748
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 2: out of mind.

749
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 3: Nick Van Exell talk about that experience.

750
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 4: Portland. That's the first team I could have got drafted by.

751
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, nobody could have took me a little closer,

752
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 4: like halfway because my family like really like New York.

753
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: Is like, oh, that's all on the other side of

754
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,439
Speaker 1: the country talking about yeah we real New.

755
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 4: York is like my mom's never had a license her

756
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 4: whole life, Like you feel me, Like, so that's the

757
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 4: first thing like that I was thinking about. I was like, damn,

758
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 4: I got drafted to the firsest team possible, Dame the

759
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 4: start of my Nigma exel.

760
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 3: That was probably.

761
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 4: Some of the best experiences I haven't it just being

762
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 4: on the team with them and me being a fan

763
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 4: of it.

764
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 3: Since I was a kid.

765
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 4: When I got that, I was like a little star

766
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 4: struggle a little bit, tell you the truth. I'm the

767
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 4: thirteenth pick and I'm like supposed to be this and

768
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 4: now I'm looking at damon start of my especially Nigmah

769
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 4: next to like you know, he wore number thirty one,

770
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 4: you know he was Nickma was so cold as a player.

771
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 4: That was that was super cool playing with him like

772
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 4: I was in the Me and Dame started was starting

773
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 4: in the backcourt the last thirty four games and my

774
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 4: rookie year, I had like I like fifteen double doubles

775
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 4: in that time. David started to scoring fifty games fifty like,

776
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,240
Speaker 4: so playing and all that with them was was super

777
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 4: super dope. But I wish, I don't know, I wish

778
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 4: I would went to a different team.

779
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 3: How was Zebra around the time? Stories about ze.

780
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 4: I'm glad you kept it there. I'm glad you kept

781
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 4: it there on Poland. I love Zebo. I love Zebo.

782
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 4: Me and Zebo had me and Zebo real friends, you

783
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Like me and Zeo see and

784
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 4: we see each other anywhere. We checking in with each other.

785
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 4: We had our time where we where we bumped hads.

786
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,919
Speaker 4: You know what I think there, it's fly to be free.

787
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 4: Though it's fly to be free. You can say whatever,

788
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 4: I can say nothing. Who's going to find over the

789
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 4: head with no pen nigga, I say what I want,

790
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 4: but boom. In fact, somebody can't say shit to me.

791
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 4: If I would have smoken weed when I first got

792
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 4: to Portland, we would have been a okay, I never

793
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 4: said this story. If I was smoking weed when I

794
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 4: first got the pulling me and ze Bo and the

795
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 4: balls and the squad, we would have been busting ass.

796
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 4: That's a fact. We didn't jail because off the court,

797
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 4: they was over there and I was over here. Ah,

798
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 4: that's the real truth. We only losing about We were

799
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 4: winning games and we only losing about a little bit.

800
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 4: We're just not getting that little. We were right there

801
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 4: that we had little The chemistry was off. And then

802
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 4: I come in at the time, just because of the time,

803
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 4: and you are Kanye West hot Jay talking about button ups.

804
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 4: So I'm like this. They looking at him like this, nigga,

805
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 4: ain't smoking, ain't got a button up on. I don't

806
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 4: get this nigga out of here.

807
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 2: Bro That that is like many blowing it down.

808
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 4: They over there blowing it.

809
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 3: Damn.

810
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 4: They come in and they come in like asking for

811
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 4: my piss, like yo, yo yo bo pass please like

812
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 4: look feel me piss for me. They come in here

813
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 4: like yo, smell smell my fingers. Smell my fingers. You

814
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 4: can smell the weed. I'm like, damn, like yo, if

815
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 4: I was smoking, we'd have been jelling because now I'm

816
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 4: thinking about it. We didn't hang out off the cut

817
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 4: at all.

818
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, y'all was doing two different things.

819
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 4: Two different things.

820
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: He was on the court every off the court every

821
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: day smoking, yes, smoking and watch your field and smoking

822
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: in fact, So that's why dudes was killing thinking about

823
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: Indiana time.

824
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 4: I was thinking about your time Indian what y'all was

825
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 4: doing smoking together. So that's that's what we niggas. That's

826
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 4: what we were. That's what we was missing. That's what

827
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 4: we was missing, bro, that's what we was missing. I

828
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 4: wasn't smoking. I wasn't smoking when I came into the league.

829
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 3: We just had that.

830
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 4: Your story crazy too, that.

831
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 2: Your first five years you don't win the one of

832
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 2: thirty games. This is how much does the situation matter

833
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 2: when in the NBA, when you don't win like a

834
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 2: free hold on the fans, Like when your contract up,

835
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 2: it matters a lot, you know what I'm saying.

836
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 3: But when you first get in.

837
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 2: The league and you try to get your feet your

838
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 2: foot in the league and make a name for yourself,

839
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 2: how hard is it going through?

840
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 3: Going through that and losing.

841
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 4: Losing was super new for me, right, And the thing

842
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 4: about the loser. When I first got to the league,

843
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 4: it was like it was the first time like losing

844
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 4: and it wasn't on me. So I didn't even know

845
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 4: that wasn't even an adjustment to make, Like I never

846
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 4: even got comfortable. It's like, hold on, we losing and

847
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,439
Speaker 4: it's not even on me, Like my whole life's first

848
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 4: time I touched the basketball, So winning and losing was

849
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 4: on me. If we won, everybody was holding me up.

850
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 4: We lost, I was the one in the corner crying.

851
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 4: Now I'm just going through the motions like I'm just

852
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 4: going through the motions. And the time in which I

853
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 4: came in was was different also because we're still in

854
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 4: the big man era, you feel me, So I'm just

855
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 4: transitioning a little bit. With Steve Nash and Jake. Actually

856
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 4: Steve Nash JK was Domint However, he didn't need a

857
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,439
Speaker 4: pick and roll. Steve Nash started mastering the pick and roll,

858
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 4: and then they started again. I can come down telling

859
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 4: z bo Al, Jefferson, Kevin Love. They had me with

860
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 4: the post up dudes. You know what I'm saying. I

861
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 4: couldn't get them to set a screen at first. I

862
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 4: feel me coming down like drag, like set a screen.

863
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 4: They like, well, I make twenty million, Like throw that

864
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 4: to the post. Yeah down here, though, throw it on

865
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,919
Speaker 4: down here. These are super fast. Thaw it on down here.

866
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 4: So shout out to Nick McMillan. He gave it up

867
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 4: to me. In the Bleacher Report article, he said that

868
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 4: he's like, nah, basically came in a different time. If

869
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 4: I would have came in when they were shooting, I

870
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 4: could shoot ten threes because that I don't know if

871
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 4: you know, but I could shoot the ball pretty well,

872
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 4: especially if I shoot the ball at high volume. Like

873
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 4: I'm not a misser. I'm a you know, I stepped

874
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 4: to the occasion.

875
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 2: I would say, you are off the dribble. You a

876
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 2: better off the dribble shooter than you are set up

877
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 2: spot up shooter.

878
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 4: Because you've never seen me with the team have good enough.

879
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 4: I'm sitting there wide open knowing I'm getting shot. Like

880
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 4: that's why I laugh at my NBA career. There's nothing

881
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 4: to put my head down the ball. I laugh about

882
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 4: it like sometimes the way the dice roll for you

883
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 4: is just.

884
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 3: That's how it is.

885
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 4: That's how it is. It's a big man leader. It

886
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 4: wasn't a sting picks. He wasn't conn to shoot ten threes.

887
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 4: I would have been perfectly fine if that was the case.

888
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 4: But now I'm breaking dudes down. I gotta jump over

889
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 4: ze Bo or Al Jefferson and his man every play.

890
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 4: Now watch the point guards when they get to the paint.

891
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 4: It's so true. Trey Young, Yes, in the paint with

892
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 4: a for the he's stopping faking synth the text and

893
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 4: then dropped it off. There's no help, nobody there. There's

894
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 4: nobody there. So Kyrie getting into the lane now he's

895
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 4: doing funks. Nah, you had to jump over three dudes

896
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 4: that had been Tim Duncan down there. David Robinson, I

897
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 4: came in that era in fact, so a little different.

898
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 2: What best would you say that you came up that

899
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 2: tried to steal in the right direction? Put like that

900
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 2: gave you the game that you felt that you benefited.

901
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 4: From all them. They all talked to me because they

902
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 4: all the Vests know what happened. That's why I got

903
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 4: relationships with all of y'all. It's not like y'all like

904
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 4: I was there. You know what I'm saying. I wasn't

905
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 4: there like maybe to the fans and owners, but the

906
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 4: players know me. That's why I stuck around for some time.

907
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 4: Like the players know me. But what you asked, I'm

908
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 4: sorry with your question. Any vest right game that you

909
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 4: know that you took he too. I don't know situation

910
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 4: got I got. My situation got so off, but the

911
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 4: VEST always respected I remember Damn Statama walking in and

912
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 4: he was like, bass ship about to get real shitty

913
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 4: around here. This is my rookie year, is gonna get

914
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 4: real shitty around won't let you know. I ain't got

915
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 4: nothing personal against you. I was like, I always respected

916
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 4: that and I always knew how to treat the rookies

917
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 4: because of that, because he wanted to know, like maybe

918
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 4: things going to change, and my demean about I want

919
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 4: you to succeed. Man. I don't really got no vets,

920
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 4: no Vest stories. All the US hold me down. I

921
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 4: remember KG. This is after my second year, right after

922
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 4: I got arrested. This ship we in Vegas walking out,

923
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 4: me and my brother in town with me too. KG

924
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 4: walked in the gym and KG was like, KG flipped

925
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 4: on me facts. But it kind of supposed stared me

926
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 4: right at that point. But KG was like he let

927
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 4: me know. He's like, nah, I'm not feeling none of that.

928
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 4: I do just play ball, that gun, ship, this and

929
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 4: that fact. So KG tried, I give him that one.

930
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 2: I give him that Oh nine ten calves? You played

931
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 2: against Lebron? How was the playing against Lebron?

932
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 4: With with with Lebron?

933
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 3: How did why did they put you in that suit? Man?

934
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 4: You see me in the suit when I was on

935
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 4: the caves, Bro, how are you in the suit?

936
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:53,760
Speaker 3: And the league?

937
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: Bro?

938
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 3: Come on signed why they put you in that suit?

939
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 4: She's you know how I got to the caves was

940
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 4: I got injured chasing d Rose down like I'm like,

941
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 4: so I should have let him dunked the ball, he

942
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 4: get it, steal we up eleven points, he get it

943
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 4: still about to go up. I swiped down, tear my

944
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 4: whole grown. He roll so damn strong. And then they

945
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 4: were trying to figure out what the due man, I

946
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 4: was with the Clippers and it was like Cleveland got

947
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 4: the best medical staff. I was like, I called Cleveland,

948
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 4: so they called Cleveland. They signed up to get me

949
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 4: over there. When I got there, and shit, I had

950
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 4: to rehab. I got in such good shape right when

951
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 4: when we in practice, I'm telling bron Braun, you run

952
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 4: me down. That'sid I'm gonna do. Boom, dunking that shit,

953
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 4: throwing it up, catching off the ground, dunking it boom.

954
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 4: So I'm like, damn, I don't know if they gonna

955
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 4: let me play. Though it was five games left of

956
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 4: the season, like maybe five to seven games left of

957
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 4: the season, it was like, you want to play? I

958
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 4: was like yeah, man, I keep saying this all my interviews.

959
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,240
Speaker 4: Run at tape back like run me back, like run

960
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,439
Speaker 4: me back, Like I'm I averaged like fifteen in them

961
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 4: five games, seven assists. This plays. I'm going crazy. And

962
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 4: then the playoffs started. Dude, I get to the locker

963
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 4: and I got us. They don't got my jerseyy.

964
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: I was like, mayn't even tell you.

965
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 4: I was like, yo, Dad, I'm be in a suit,

966
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 4: oh man. And then we're playing against Boston. That's why

967
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 4: Brondo was busting. They ass like that, that's why Rondo

968
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 4: was busting more. Williams ass like that. He like, my, my, dude,

969
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 4: I'm supposed to be going to he right there on

970
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,439
Speaker 4: the bench of the suit. I'm about to kill more

971
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 4: Williams and my and my ex wife and to she

972
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 4: was like, man, bron called, asked for the club and

973
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 4: everywhere here and call you when that game start. They

974
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 4: ain't missing dinner with you since you've been here off

975
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 4: days you at his house. Then the game start. I

976
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 4: was like, oh, I'm like dade, I couln't even say nothing.

977
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 4: I was like I was quiet like shit and worked

978
00:45:58,160 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 4: like that shure you know how to go a different

979
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:05,399
Speaker 4: preseason all that whatever? That shol had me hot?

980
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: Who suit?

981
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 4: Was it? What suit? Who's what you mean? I have

982
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 4: to put a suit on? Watch the game? You Yeah,

983
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 4: it was my suit? Had to put some regular ship on?

984
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 3: What you mean? I just think it was your suit?

985
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 4: You have to put somebody else it? Or no, you did?

986
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,439
Speaker 3: You did you get this? That was no tailor made

987
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 3: suit you had on?

988
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 4: That wasn't some I had regular clothes?

989
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 3: You found that ship?

990
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 4: I got you?

991
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 3: I got okay?

992
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, to stop my god, put that ship together the

993
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 4: night or some ship. That's my god. I know I

994
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 4: got to the lock I had a regular outfit on.

995
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 4: I got to the locker after I worked out for

996
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 4: the game and all that. I'm thinking, I'm about to

997
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 4: go my jersey and all that was out of the

998
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 4: locker room. I had to borrow somebody's suit.

999
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 3: Jack.

1000
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. I know you put that ship together.

1001
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 4: Shout out to Cleveland doing your boy like that, got

1002
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,439
Speaker 4: it out there and boget his ass Cleveland, Ohio doing

1003
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 4: me like that. Shout out to Yeah, damn Gilbert, like like, give.

1004
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 3: Us the store with the Phoenix sons. What's that Now?

1005
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 4: They be talking about the swag and the drip in

1006
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 4: the game and all that. So we was. I was

1007
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 4: having this argument and I was with Jabbed Dully. You

1008
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 4: know Jaffed Dully is he's a commentator. No matter where

1009
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 4: you're at, what you're doing, we can be all time. Yo, slows,

1010
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 4: were gonna get a job, get it done. Shout out

1011
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 4: to j V funny ship J did. He's a funny dude.

1012
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 4: I watch JD talk about buying his Ferrari for two

1013
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 4: years when he got it. He's like he's like a

1014
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 4: little kid. That's what I enjoyed him buying the Ferrari.

1015
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 4: That's what's up. Shout out to JD. But we all

1016
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 4: going to the Louis Vuitton store. So we're playing for Phoenix.

1017
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 3: It's me JD.

1018
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 4: Re mind these guys all make ten million, yeah, twenty

1019
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 4: in a year. Got Michael Red, We got j D,

1020
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 4: Michael Red, ha Keen Warrick, Josh Childers, Keith Morris, Shannon Brown.

1021
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 4: It's like that group. So we're going then soon JD

1022
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 4: getting there. Were in San Francisco, the big Louis Vuitton stuff.

1023
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 4: Soon we get in there, he like, tell the lady

1024
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 4: come in, come in. He was like, I know y'all

1025
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 4: keep tracked back there. I want you to take on

1026
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 4: id's and see who spent the most money. So we

1027
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 4: all like so we're all sitting there. The lady come

1028
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 4: back and she like she had me the call. First

1029
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 4: she was like him, and by the second, dude, half

1030
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 4: he spent half away, he spent Michael Red. So they

1031
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 4: all looking at me like, you won't even make no money.

1032
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 4: So I spent the half a man in Louis Vauton.

1033
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 4: But I got sisters. I got five sisters. I got

1034
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 4: a mama. You feel me, my whatever ex wife. You

1035
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 4: already know when they exits, you know how they spent

1036
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 4: all your exits spent heavy, Yeah feel me, So you

1037
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 4: already know how that goes. So that's what that was.

1038
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 4: So yeah, they was always looking at me like crazy,

1039
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 4: But I'm looking at these dudes like, y'all make all

1040
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,919
Speaker 4: that bread with your mom A little five thousand dollars

1041
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 4: bad bro, One time.

1042
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 3: It was finished with your favorite stop.

1043
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 4: Definitely my my favorite stop. That's the cool city too.

1044
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 4: I love super got all the you know, got all

1045
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 4: the work. It's nice. Yeah, you know, work is a

1046
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 4: huge part of the NBA, bro, But it's nice out there.

1047
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 4: And it was the first time I was on the

1048
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 4: half decent team. Also tell you the truth where it's like,

1049
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 4: this might be a playoff team with me without me.

1050
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 4: So when I was there, I was like, I got

1051
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 4: a tip top shape, started doing my things. Second half

1052
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 4: of the season, I averaged fifteen and eight points. Second

1053
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 4: half of the season, we won game from the playoffs.

1054
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 4: They didn't want to make it to the playoffs, and

1055
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 4: I got the Bob got Steve National. They're like, and

1056
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 4: we make it to the player. We eight seed, we're

1057
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 4: gonna have to play against the number one seed, which

1058
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 4: is the Spurs. So Steve Grant Hill.

1059
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 3: No megas, like nah, smoke.

1060
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 4: Then we don't want that smoke. That's way, way too

1061
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 4: much smoke. So we kind of like, you know, let

1062
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 4: it go. But that's the first time like where kind

1063
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 4: of like I felt like I was in the.

1064
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 1: NBA Facts Cannabis, talk about your journey with cannabis, something

1065
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: passionate about you came and blessed the whole group when

1066
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: you came in here.

1067
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 4: We appreciate that, but talk about fact what the tree

1068
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 4: does for you. We got we got sweet OL's, We

1069
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 4: got sweet O's, my little brother, my younger brother. I

1070
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 4: don't like calling him little. My younger brother, Ethan king

1071
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 4: O Cyrus and that's his real name. That's my mama

1072
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 4: named him Ethan king Osiers. Telfare graduated from Idaho business degree.

1073
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:25,240
Speaker 4: He's out in Arizona. Got uh one of the biggest

1074
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 4: dispensaries in Arizona. And we also got the cookie shop

1075
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 4: out there. So him and burned the fifty to fifty

1076
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 4: on the spot, running it up like we just you know,

1077
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 4: and joined ourselves. Got energy fat rosy.

1078
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: Obviously, the NBA has come a long way with it

1079
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: with the smoking policies. Uh. You know, a lot of

1080
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 1: people fail by the wayside, but one notable person was

1081
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 1: Michael Beasley. He got into some trouble behind the tree

1082
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:50,760
Speaker 1: and loaded talent.

1083
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 4: The NBA old Michael Beezy some money, don't you think

1084
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 4: between him being fine, between him coming in so young,

1085
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 4: between him being fine, between that like really being a

1086
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 4: narrative on his whole career, like and now now it's

1087
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 4: perfectly fine, right what they do? Get one test with

1088
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 4: nothing and there's nothing so you could smoke in the NBA.

1089
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 4: Now we have about to do with that, of course,

1090
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 4: So I don't understand they got to double back on

1091
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 4: Michael Beasley, Like Michael be supposed to make three hundred

1092
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 4: in the league. Man quiet was called as fuck we

1093
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 4: stopped him. So I don't know if they gave him

1094
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 4: the right I reached to go about it to say like, yo,

1095
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 4: this is helping me mentally or helping my body. But

1096
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 4: at the time they were just doing them paying him

1097
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 4: like the bad guy putting the narrative, paying him less

1098
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 4: than when he's worth. And now you know he didn't

1099
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 4: get to finish his career out and that's perfectly fine.

1100
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 4: So I'm like they could look at his finds and

1101
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 4: give him his money back.

1102
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 2: That was the rules at the Timesie, so what, you're

1103
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 2: not robots?

1104
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 3: We all were smoking.

1105
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 4: Everybody they know the leave of smoking, so they've been The.

1106
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:02,959
Speaker 1: League was in the drug rules at the time.

1107
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 4: Bet y'all put me in a drug program, like my

1108
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 4: last year we were in there, curse news years. He

1109
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 4: wasn't going no, he said, I wasn't going first them

1110
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 4: out because NB and not robots. And they got to

1111
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 4: understand that if Michael Beasley would have had a perfectly

1112
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 4: fine career or double his pay if he a't have

1113
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 4: that narrative put on him. While I feel like I

1114
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 4: know it was the rules, but WI I feel is

1115
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 4: important because the narrative that's put on God's is like,

1116
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 4: we gotta start controlling that narrative because that ship is

1117
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 4: more important than what we think. Right, So as players,

1118
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 4: we be saying, all right, that narrative affect how we

1119
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 4: get paid, right, that's important, But what's more important right

1120
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 4: now is the value that we have as players when

1121
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 4: we get done playing, right, you know what I'm saying.

1122
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 4: So I kind of call it the the Stephen A.

1123
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 4: Smith effect, you know what I'm saying, because they put this,

1124
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 4: they put this narrative, and not to really point stephen A.

1125
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 4: Smith out, because it's really a collective when you really

1126
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 4: look at the narrative they put on the players. What

1127
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 4: I mean by that, like the narrative is the value

1128
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 4: of an NBA player when he gets out of the

1129
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 4: NBA like a car melo for him to go do business,

1130
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 4: it should be sky rocket, the opportunity should be through

1131
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 4: the roof. And the reason why we're not getting these

1132
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 4: opportunities and it's not skyrocket, you know, job opportunities for

1133
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,919
Speaker 4: us because the narratives that's put on us the whole time.

1134
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 4: And what's the narrative, We're not winners. There's only one winner.

1135
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 4: There's only one winner. So they make a big thing

1136
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 4: about the championships and they're controlling the narrative with that.

1137
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 4: And when the guy get out the lead, if he

1138
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 4: don't win a championship, he don't have no value in

1139
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 4: the real market world. So I think as players, we

1140
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 4: need to change the conversation right now to let them

1141
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 4: know that no Melo is everything. He is a champion.

1142
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 4: He is the world and right now they got us

1143
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 4: when we get out the league. They're trying to do

1144
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 4: it to Westbrook. They're trying to put a certain narrative

1145
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 4: on him, and we think it is about to get

1146
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 4: him out of the league all about his money. To know,

1147
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 4: it's about when he's done. They want to control that

1148
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 4: value of what he's able to do. Because if we

1149
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 4: all walking out the league, who we really are? We

1150
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 4: play it. We didn't be done magnificent things. We have

1151
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 4: huge followings, the job opportunity should be there, and they're not.

1152
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 4: They're based on that narrative like oh that you ain't

1153
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:21,280
Speaker 4: got six rings.

1154
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 2: No, I agree with you because it's it took me

1155
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 2: forever to get that narrative, narrative off of me about

1156
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 2: who who they perceived me as because of the brawl.

1157
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 3: But we did, but the times are different. We didn't.

1158
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 2: We couldn't control our narrative. We didn't have social media.

1159
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 2: It wasn't podcasts or stuff. Now you know what I'm saying.

1160
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 4: So now we can control on there, but you are

1161
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 4: right back then, we couldn't.

1162
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 2: We couldn't. We had to just whatever they said about you,

1163
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 2: that's what it just had to be. That you know

1164
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, and then not only when they say it,

1165
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 2: it's gonna be on TV ten times saying it. Yes,

1166
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, So you are right. But

1167
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 2: now they have the they have the opportunity to control

1168
00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 2: they own narrative.

1169
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 3: Yes, you know what I'm saying, and you right about this.

1170
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 3: I agree with you on that.

1171
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, because the value is down on the players right now,

1172
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 4: and I'm like, I gotta change that.

1173
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 2: You should never have nothing to say bad about Russ

1174
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 2: Westbrook when he's all time leading triple doubles, got God

1175
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 2: give us all every every day.

1176
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 4: Shouldn't he'll work. This is a superstar of a fortune.

1177
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,240
Speaker 4: Five hundred companies should be knocking. He should have fifty

1178
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 4: of them.

1179
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 3: But you don't talk.

1180
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 4: About he won't alone. He won't. He won't. He won't.

1181
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 4: If you listen to Steven A. Smith and the narrative,

1182
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 4: they don't call alone like that call alone, call alone.

1183
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 4: He did work ship Get me started, Yeah, don't get

1184
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 4: me started on don't get me started. But I feel like,

1185
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 4: as players, we gotta start controlling that narrative, and we

1186
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 4: gotta start networking a little better. I don't really like

1187
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 4: saying it like that. That sounded like some ship, like

1188
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 4: they said when I first got in the league a

1189
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 4: thousand years ago. Networking. Nah, we gotta come up with

1190
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 4: a different slogan. It's saying because dudes is not working together.

1191
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 4: We got all the influence, we made all the money.

1192
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 4: So while the perception of the retired players is not

1193
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 4: where it's supposed to be, while aren't dudes doing business?

1194
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 4: Why it is not up? While we don't go? I

1195
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:11,760
Speaker 4: want that, Luca brose energy everything up and is stuck.

1196
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 4: You need a job, come holler. They don't. They don't

1197
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 4: want that for the players. Why not? We got all

1198
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 4: the influence. A thousand million kids have washed you. You

1199
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 4: you helped other households. People say, yo, my kid washed you.

1200
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 4: My kid went to school because of you.

1201
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 2: Rachel Niggas told me when I retire, she said, you know,

1202
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 2: the retired athlete is the most wanted athlete. The retired

1203
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 2: athlete that can speak is the most wanted athlete, not

1204
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,800
Speaker 2: the athlete that's playing. Rachel told me that when I

1205
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 2: first retired.

1206
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,720
Speaker 4: But that's that's true. But I don't really care about

1207
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 4: being One day. I wanted us to to Hedge Fund ourself.

1208
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:58,760
Speaker 3: That's gonna be hard to do because you got something

1209
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 3: it is, bro, because not but it is.

1210
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 4: It shouldn't be, but shouldn't be. It should it shouldn't be.

1211
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 3: Everybody ain't like us.

1212
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 4: But what I'm saying, I'm not saying. I don't want

1213
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 4: to create Apple. I don't want to be that. It

1214
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 4: don't We don't. We don't need two trillion dollars.

1215
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 1: Bro, we don't need.

1216
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 4: We just need some energy. We need like we need

1217
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 4: like energy.

1218
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 3: We need that.

1219
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 4: We need to pull up Billy Hunt the paper.

1220
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 3: These niggas too.

1221
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: Fish.

1222
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 3: We need to jail.

1223
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 4: Didn't he Billy help in jail? He got, He got

1224
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 4: a live trouble with the jail, but he got for what.

1225
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: I thought he did. He have to sit up with

1226
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: that scandal.

1227
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 3: He's not in jail, Bro, I'm not.

1228
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 4: Here say he's still in jail.

1229
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 2: I think because somebody, somebody gave me his number recently

1230
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 2: gave me the books because he told me to call him.

1231
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: So he yeah, the players Association, Yeah, I.

1232
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 4: Don't he was. I don't want to get I don't

1233
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 4: want to get in between that. Right, but boom, because

1234
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 4: we controlled the narrative. Now right, I'm not asking, I'm

1235
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 4: saying it. I'm a former player and I'm talking, so

1236
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 4: we control the narrative whoever's in that position. And it

1237
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 4: shouldn't be a player, Billy Hunter. Drop should not going

1238
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 4: to a player because if you're a player, you make

1239
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 4: three hundred million, you don't have the time to do

1240
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 4: the right job. That's just my opinion. And you really

1241
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 4: don't care about the last nigga in the league. And

1242
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 4: you don't care about the last nigg in the league

1243
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 4: and you make three hundred mil. I don't know your childhood, right,

1244
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 4: So if I don't know your childhood, I'm not exactly

1245
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 4: sure how common it is for somebody to need some help,

1246
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 4: because you could put a kid that grew up perfectly fun,

1247
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 4: you know, middle class. I went to fucking Duke and

1248
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 4: then went to the league, and then now he's the

1249
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 4: head of the thing. He don't understand when somebody needs

1250
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 4: some help. So I'm not to blame him. You can't

1251
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 4: blame him. He don't he looking at you like why

1252
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 4: you don't have a job, Like everybody else, like what

1253
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 4: fuck are you talking about? Where I come from, everybody

1254
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 4: need help at some point, So somebody got to be

1255
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 4: in that position right there, right, So Boom can't be

1256
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 4: one of the players. Get that out of here. NBA,

1257
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 4: y'all can't had one of the players as the as

1258
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 4: the head. Do Chris Paul, he made fifty sixty million

1259
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 4: a year. How he don't give two ships about skip

1260
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 4: to my loop? He what he don't care about Bassie

1261
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 4: hold on, let me. I can't let you do that.

1262
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 4: I'm saying it though they got I'm not.

1263
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:20,439
Speaker 2: I'm saying at the older guys lifetime retirement the NBA,

1264
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 2: Chris Paul went back and got our vet tell me.

1265
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 4: So you got to give him props for I don't

1266
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 4: know that. So you got to say that. Yeah, yeah,

1267
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 4: you got to say that. You got to say that

1268
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 4: the hair facts. But it still shouldn't be a player, right, Okay, okay,

1269
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 4: I'll give with Chris Paul world like he takes his family,

1270
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 4: but no, he don't got common people on his phone

1271
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 4: needing cell phone money and what I bet I put

1272
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 4: something on that fact. So Boom, you can't be in

1273
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 4: that position because you don't understand you it's nothing wrong,

1274
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 4: but you just don't understand. You to put somebody half

1275
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 4: comment that understands how to make it work. How is

1276
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 4: that going to help us? Because I'm here to advocate

1277
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 4: for the athletes. Right, So when Donakey was cheating, they

1278
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 4: came into the locker room they said, if y'all make

1279
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 4: a comment, we're gonna find the shit out of y'all.

1280
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 4: And then they came back and said, we ain't tell

1281
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 4: y'all how much because you know, we just sent them

1282
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 4: to make all the money to make the comment, and

1283
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 4: he take the twenty five thousand, So they ain't tell

1284
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 4: us how much because they was protecting the brand of

1285
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 4: the NBA. Right, I understand that as an adult. I

1286
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 4: understand that. Then So if Antoine Walker walk into the

1287
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 4: player's as social office and he's in whatever three million

1288
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 4: dollar debt, I got a problem with that leaving that office.

1289
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 4: If I'm supposed we're supposed to be the big NBA, right,

1290
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:38,919
Speaker 4: this is the biggest thing going in our culture. Right,

1291
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 4: How that leave that office? That can't leave that office?

1292
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: Are you giving a hypothetical or that really happened?

1293
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 4: It did happen because we've seen it all over the

1294
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 4: newspaper and all that dumb shit. Right, that's not protecting

1295
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 4: the athlete. They do that. So the value of the

1296
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 4: athlete is down, y'all could have found the way to

1297
01:00:56,120 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 4: handle that behind the scenes. I feel I feel back

1298
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 4: to I'm sorry with the Billy Hunter. If you in

1299
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 4: that position like right now, I don't give two shits.

1300
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 4: Billy Hunter gave his family each a million dollars and

1301
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 4: they all went on vacations and they all got jobs.

1302
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 4: I don't care because at bash in Telfair wouldn't have

1303
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 4: much money without Billy Hunter and the way he put

1304
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 4: them accounts together, because them account wasn't like that the

1305
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,439
Speaker 4: whole time, and y'all two players with me, we didn't

1306
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 4: have them extra them extra shits. Dudes that played before that,

1307
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 4: they don't got them extra accounts. Sept Ira raw of

1308
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 4: the for they don't got all the bridge account, a

1309
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 4: newity account. They don't got that supplement account. Y'all ain't

1310
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 4: have that. That's Billy Hunter doing. Billy Hunter is the

1311
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 4: only one in there talking about we need to get

1312
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 4: a bank, and he was around doing your time. He

1313
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 4: was talking bank. I said, so, how you go from

1314
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 4: he about to get us a bank till he hired

1315
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 4: him one of his boy that's what we do when

1316
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 4: we up, boy, when black people up, we hired somebody

1317
01:01:56,640 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 4: we know that's probably not qualified, but we still don't

1318
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 4: get it done. That's why we did preach what they

1319
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 4: talk about. You can't fire him from that, and we

1320
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 4: still buy that. Everybody do it, not just black people.

1321
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 4: Everybody do it. I'm only talking from my community and

1322
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 4: my culture.

1323
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 3: We just we just know.

1324
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 4: Wody white called me asked me for not Nobody white

1325
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 4: called me asked me for nothing. All everybody that call

1326
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 4: me asked me his mom you heard, yeah, so, And

1327
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 4: there's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with needing help.

1328
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 4: There's nothing wrong with that. So if you the big dogs,

1329
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 4: y'all gotta take better control over that. With that players,

1330
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 4: you on your bro. That's what I feel. That's why

1331
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 4: I feel. No, Jaylen Brown can't be making three hundred

1332
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 4: million and he he's the billy Hunter, so billy hunter.

1333
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 4: That was his job, that was his only job. He

1334
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 4: he had them conversations through years of knowing what's gonna

1335
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 4: happen to most players when they've done playing. I got

1336
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 4: a court, but he knows what's gonna happen with most

1337
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 4: Jaylen Brown don't know the feeling of what's gonna happen

1338
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 4: and what the door is gonna be knocked after that.

1339
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 1: Always been player has always been the press. That's not true,

1340
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 1: because Fish was Fish was the he was he was

1341
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: the side of something. They had a whole Billy had

1342
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 1: his own staff. I'm talking telling what I seen in

1343
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 1: my own eyes.

1344
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 4: I was really dead.

1345
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 3: Said he was personal.

1346
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 1: No, he don't make sure the president of the place.

1347
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 3: The spokesperson. Yeah, yeah, he was a spokesperson.

1348
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 4: Represent since Defense became the president on that ship. That's

1349
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 4: when they were sliding in and to get Billy Hunt out.

1350
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 4: He became that at the same time the Hunter get

1351
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 4: out of the stop it. It was never up under him. No, yeah,

1352
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 4: they probably. They probably let him intern. Yeah, go in

1353
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 4: turn was about to get this nigg out of here.

1354
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 4: Snig On gave back. What did Bassie spent all his money?

1355
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 4: He's still gonna have eight million dollars fucking with Billy Hunter. Nah,

1356
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 4: get him up out of there. Yeah, what that's the truth.

1357
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 4: I want somebody saying, no, Basie, that's not true. I'm

1358
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 4: in the NBA too, that's not true. That's the truth.

1359
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 4: What you play coming to the NBA right now, so

1360
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 4: you could spend all your money, you gonna have eight

1361
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 4: ten million dollars in the accounts. That wasn't true for

1362
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 4: steph On and number that's only on Billy Hunter. I'm

1363
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 4: not no, I don't know what Chris pulling them added

1364
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 4: into that, because I've been off the scene. I'm not

1365
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 4: in that world no more. You feel me. I went value,

1366
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 4: I'm back into the regular world happily, right. So I

1367
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 4: don't really know. But when I left, I watched Billy

1368
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 4: Hunter do all of that, and I watched them fire him.

1369
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 4: So from my point of view, and I'm not I'm

1370
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 4: gonna step on nobody toes. I don't feel no way

1371
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 4: against nobody, But like that looks funny, and dudes ain't

1372
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 4: really out here like that for us to be basketball players,

1373
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 4: and that shit look real regular out here. Man, I'm

1374
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 4: trying to tell you, if you're not actively working, try

1375
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 4: to tell me I could have been a ten year

1376
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 4: All Star and made three hundred million and I would

1377
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 4: have to stick around the NBA to make a living.

1378
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 4: I'm gonna make a living no matter what, bro. But

1379
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 4: I feel like the fact that we already we got

1380
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 4: the ball and we really are making the money, and

1381
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 4: we really do got the influence. We gotta implement something else.

1382
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 4: I don't know what it is, and it might be

1383
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 4: half money, half perception. It might be. But right now

1384
01:04:55,560 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 4: it's quiet. It's quiet for retired players. It's like we

1385
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 4: last on, We last on. It ain't nobody really what

1386
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 4: ain't nobody? Jay Z in the game, nobody took it

1387
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 4: and flipped it up three times. And now when Lulu

1388
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 4: Wayne get tax trouble and got seven million taxes, what

1389
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 4: Jayzon did them taxes?

1390
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 3: What I read Jayzon took care of you?

1391
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 4: All right, that's big dog toy. We had no big

1392
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 4: dog around basketball.

1393
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 2: Now we don't. We don't because and you need one.

1394
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 2: Let me tell you why though. The motherfuckers that would

1395
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 2: do that, they're not giving that money to I feel

1396
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 2: like you feel me. That's why I said it has fun,

1397
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 2: you feel me?

1398
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 4: Because it don't gotta be a trillionare It's gotta be

1399
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 4: something that's thurdy over there that we building something on.

1400
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 4: You know, it might be one building, there might be

1401
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 4: two buildings. You know what I'm saying. Something Joe Smith,

1402
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 4: I watch Joe Smith, I advocate for the athletes. I

1403
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 4: told him I was mad at you going that chaumas

1404
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 4: like that. I was so happy. When Ben Going got

1405
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 4: up and said son, Trumas answered it was an adult called

1406
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 4: trum You're supposed to respond like this everything marble. I'm

1407
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 4: a basketball player, I represent.

1408
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 3: So Ben Guarden Sport responding, yeah, what are you saying?

1409
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 3: How can you supposed to respond?

1410
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1411
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 1: Can?

1412
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 4: I'll show my account and everything up over how you're

1413
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 4: supposed to respond? And you represented the basketball players. Cam

1414
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 4: was going off of that based on how they perceive

1415
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 4: retired basketball players. Niggas is washed up. That's how they

1416
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 4: perceive us. They ain't doing no business. I am I

1417
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 4: bumping into them at the ClearPort. We don't need nothing

1418
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 4: from them.

1419
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question, though, Bessie, talk to me,

1420
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 2: what what percentage of the player gotta take responsibility for that?

1421
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 2: For whatever whatever position they in, the player gotta take

1422
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 2: with some responsibility for that.

1423
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 4: Right, absolutely, absolutely, My fuck ups one thousand. But my

1424
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 4: thing is this, I'm not gonna not implement something like that.

1425
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 4: And because I know the dude's gonna suck up. I'm

1426
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 4: sure dude's gonna suck up. And guess what, dudes aren't

1427
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:55,439
Speaker 4: fucking up like that? Everybody, It's not that bad. It's

1428
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 4: just nothing that's pityback and offer it. That's making it

1429
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 4: really bubble Stop what j seven million?

1430
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 1: Taxes?

1431
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 4: Similar address swite because he represented music? He like, I

1432
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 4: can't have Lulu, Wayne and Jail for film, right, we.

1433
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 3: Don't have a jay Z? But who would be that?

1434
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 4: It don't make it. I'm really trying to throw the

1435
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 4: idea out there.

1436
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 2: I don't see I don't I can't see nobody in

1437
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 2: basketball being that with so many with so much money,

1438
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 2: so many different players, with so many different.

1439
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 4: And that's why so much money, And that's why it's quiet.

1440
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. You've got their own agendas,

1441
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 4: half of them fake. It's supposed to be the Players Union,

1442
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 4: but like I mean, I don't know. I really don't know.

1443
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 3: So what's the truth is the true meaning of players Union?

1444
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 3: That's what we need to be asking.

1445
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 4: What's the true meaning of what's the true meaning of

1446
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 4: the players That's what we need to be asking. Like, So,

1447
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 4: what's the situation I gotta be in a get assistance?

1448
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 4: Do I got to be the lats?

1449
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:56,920
Speaker 1: Have you discussed this with the Players Union?

1450
01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 4: Everything I say, I'll say to them you said you would,

1451
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 4: or that you said I said you said it already,

1452
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 4: So I'll talk to the NBA more than the union,

1453
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, because we're trying to implement

1454
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 4: something in where with these divorces. When we got into

1455
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 4: the lead, they says, seven out of ten dudes get divorced.

1456
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,599
Speaker 4: Now is not out of ten get divorced. We're clearly

1457
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 4: watching it and don't care. If he was the slam

1458
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 4: dunker and the big money maker. They leaving too, So

1459
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 4: why they don't put a contract in right now? When

1460
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 4: the guy get into the lead and it's girl when

1461
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 4: he says, oh, this is you know Susie, right, she

1462
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:34,679
Speaker 4: gotta go in there and sign the contract too.

1463
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 1: What's that contract consist of?

1464
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 4: It's basically it's basically an in house prenup where it's

1465
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 4: like his money could be up for divorce if y'all

1466
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 4: don't get your own prenup. But these NBA accounts, like

1467
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 4: his service accounts is not up for debate. That's not

1468
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 4: up for debate. So will y'all get divorce?

1469
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 3: Luck with that one?

1470
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 4: Well, don't make a difference anywhere else. Got that many

1471
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 4: niggas making that much money and just collectively no, shut up, No,

1472
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 4: that's about right. Dan Facts. This is Director's three hundred

1473
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 4: and fifty players. What are you talking about two hundred

1474
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 4: and fifty people? You can't come up with a contract

1475
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 4: for three hundred and fifty people. There's only three hundred

1476
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:18,599
Speaker 4: from America now too. We ain't getting there.

1477
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:19,759
Speaker 3: That's gonna be hard.

1478
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 1: So what would you want the contract to be?

1479
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 3: Like?

1480
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 4: I just said it very simple. These accounts right here,

1481
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 4: that'ser the ones that we get from the NBA, the

1482
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 4: ones that we could put the money every year and

1483
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 4: all that. Those are for the player. Those are not

1484
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 4: up for discussion when it comes.

1485
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 1: You're not talking about just the bank accounts. You're talking about.

1486
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 4: Accounts that's regular. That's like everybody that's on my pension,

1487
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 4: your pension, y'all, y'all know the accounts came in. I

1488
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 4: got all of them, about to say, seven eight NBA accounts.

1489
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:48,679
Speaker 4: I don't know if y'all. I don't know what y'all got.

1490
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 4: So and that's new. That's all Billy Hunter, Stephan dud

1491
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 4: dudes leaving three four of them nineties. They was leaving

1492
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 4: with a pension and had the way to your sixty five.

1493
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 4: So yeah, you gotta be perfect, bro, You better be

1494
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 4: doing business and networking and all that, like, stop playing

1495
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 4: with me, bro, I want to so I want to

1496
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 4: build something where it's like if I'm a part of

1497
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:15,920
Speaker 4: a big corporation like that, it's some incentitives at all times.

1498
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 4: All that shit tied into retirement too though. That's the fact.

1499
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 4: That's a huge thing retired players. You can't leave the

1500
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 4: retired players out. We represent the league.

1501
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 2: When people think when when when they think when you

1502
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 2: say retirement, they think you're talking about retirement money and

1503
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 2: that other money involved in that, Like you're talking about

1504
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 2: what people don't understand. So you can get your retirement

1505
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 2: and still get money every month, check every month.

1506
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 3: Fact.

1507
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 4: But yeah, we can't. We can't let that. A lot

1508
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 4: of that's going to the divorce, to the divorce right now,

1509
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 4: so we can't. We can't. That's under stand on right now.

1510
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 4: I don't see nothing wrong with that. I don't see

1511
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 4: nothing wrong with that because right now we know it's

1512
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 4: not out of ten being And when I keep saying that,

1513
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:55,679
Speaker 4: I want somebody saying no, that's not true. Nobody's saying

1514
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 4: ship when I say that out of ten dudes is

1515
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 4: getting divorce.

1516
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 3: Because we both divorce, all three of us.

1517
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 1: He said, he said, don't leave me out.

1518
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:09,639
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, like, so, it's not the point our

1519
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 4: situations in general for the next case, because that's a

1520
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 4: real problem. That's a huge, huge problem. Maybe the families

1521
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 4: that stay together. So I'm not trying to pick on

1522
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 4: a woman. I want to keep I want to keep

1523
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 4: the film together.

1524
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 1: Facts or maybe we shouldn't have been married while we

1525
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 1: was in the league anyway, maybe that was all fun.

1526
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I take responsibility for my actions because I

1527
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 2: was a thought. You feel all basketball players first team.

1528
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 2: So I get it, baby, I get basketball players. I

1529
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 2: paid my dues and fine shress up light on the

1530
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 2: last three years. You kind of been in there the

1531
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 2: headlines like how are you as a person right now?

1532
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 3: You're good.

1533
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:53,600
Speaker 4: I'm good. Tell me some time to get to this

1534
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 4: mental space that I'm in right now. I feel free.

1535
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 4: It makes me happy to talk like this to you guys.

1536
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:00,759
Speaker 3: It's just good. See in facts.

1537
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 4: It makes me feel good to believe I'm embarking on

1538
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 4: something new. I got mad stories. I'm excited to show

1539
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 4: the world who I am because people don't really know

1540
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 4: who I am. We got to we get to hang

1541
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 4: out behind the scenes and see my demeanor. They see

1542
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 4: my my my newspaper articles, and like they try to

1543
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 4: put that demeano on me and I'm like, nah, like no,

1544
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 4: that's not me. So I'm feeling good.

1545
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 1: Uh current NBA, you following, you're paying attention, of course,

1546
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 1: who you like right now? Who's maybe your two or

1547
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 1: three favorite players in league right now?

1548
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 4: To watch sh when they're on. I gotta watch Jah,

1549
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 4: I gotta watch Dang. I gotta watch Yo, hold On,

1550
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 4: hold on, I gotta say fox too.

1551
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 3: See him every day.

1552
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 4: I don't feel like there's too many conversations that should

1553
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 4: be happening without that kid, because he like he's somebody

1554
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 4: that's taking the steps he taking. I see no ceiling

1555
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 4: right now, and he played defense shooting the ball right now.

1556
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 4: Say can't step behind, you can't go under no more.

1557
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 1: And that was his thing, get anywhere, he could get

1558
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 1: anywhere on the court.

1559
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 4: I'm watching this kid like I'm like watching watch you

1560
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 4: get to the paint. He's walking there.

1561
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:15,839
Speaker 1: And dunk that bitch on you. Geez.

1562
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:17,799
Speaker 4: He might he might be my favorites.

1563
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 1: Like this next wave when when Bron and Steph and

1564
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 1: Katy and all them guys, you know, have to step

1565
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:25,760
Speaker 1: away from the game, who do you kind of see

1566
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 1: next error to throw? Maybe two or three guys or

1567
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 1: one guy in particular.

1568
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 4: I don't know. By no young boyfriend Orlando, he's like,

1569
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 4: y'all better start taking a look.

1570
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 1: Allo, Caro, big fella.

1571
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 4: He's playing like you know, he's like he's like he's

1572
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:47,719
Speaker 4: super confident. Yes, sir, he's super confident. He's doing everything,

1573
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,599
Speaker 4: he's trying everything, he's taking his losses. Like, I don't

1574
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:52,720
Speaker 4: know that kid got a heat. I don't know. I

1575
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 4: don't know him personally, look like, got a nice good

1576
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:56,640
Speaker 4: head on the show. It's like he's going to the

1577
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 4: top with it for sure.

1578
01:13:58,520 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 1: So he'd be the one.

1579
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 4: Player you say, I would say him when i'm because

1580
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:04,599
Speaker 4: I ain't expect anything from Orlando, and now you gotta

1581
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:06,559
Speaker 4: go in there and strap it up against Orlando. Right, Yeah,

1582
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 4: he's special, but my team is okay. See, like I'll

1583
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:12,720
Speaker 4: be telling the dude like they they they special, you know,

1584
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 4: in the playoffs is going that's his family. But I

1585
01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 4: want to see, I really want to see. I really

1586
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:21,519
Speaker 4: want to see the Clippers surprise everybody, just to shake

1587
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:21,760
Speaker 4: it up.

1588
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 1: I think the Clippers could come out the West if

1589
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 1: they stay healthy.

1590
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 4: If yeah, Kawas stay healthy, get Kawas some rest. You

1591
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 4: got Kawa out there? Really every game, change that rule.

1592
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 1: And Jan you know, and I always say, man, if

1593
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 1: James is motivated to play, uncle, fuck what he does

1594
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:38,599
Speaker 1: off the court or when he wants to play, He's

1595
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 1: still a major problem. Still twenty and ten, and he

1596
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:42,760
Speaker 1: did that.

1597
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:44,560
Speaker 4: The more he plays, he's not one of them do

1598
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 4: that kind of way.

1599
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:47,680
Speaker 1: Is down like and he's happy to He's at the

1600
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 1: crib too, and got the crib playing, you know. So

1601
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:53,200
Speaker 1: I like the Clippers too, all right, quick hit his

1602
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 1: first team to come to mind, Top five New York

1603
01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 1: City point guards of all time.

1604
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:02,640
Speaker 4: It's about his health, It's about it, tell us about it.

1605
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 4: Helping was gonna be different than that. I knew that.

1606
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 4: I knew what he was about to say. Vast five.

1607
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 4: Who your childhood crush? My childod crush. I had a

1608
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 4: huge crush on A Keys when I was young. Yeah,

1609
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:24,600
Speaker 4: I was on Lisha Keys. I was on the No

1610
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 4: I D thing on MTV. I was like giving her

1611
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 4: a shout out and all that. That's Swiss wife. So

1612
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 4: I shouldn't be what I'm saying. Child time Key a

1613
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 4: keys definitely when I was when I was younger.

1614
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 1: Craziest thing you offered while you were in high school?

1615
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 4: Five hundred. No, it's two hundred and fifty thousand. Not

1616
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 4: to sign with the agent I signed with a family friend. Wow,

1617
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 4: walking out the restaurant. Not to sign with this nigga

1618
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:55,000
Speaker 4: and my junior year was my senior year too.

1619
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 2: Oh No, I'd have been signing everything. I'd have been

1620
01:15:58,000 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 2: signing to everybody, every d You know.

1621
01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 4: What if I won't sign him, give me, I won't

1622
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 4: sound him. I should have took you, you know him,

1623
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:07,800
Speaker 4: give me fifty.

1624
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 3: I want to sign with nobody.

1625
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:11,719
Speaker 4: I've been signing too fifty letters to not sign with everybody.

1626
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:12,559
Speaker 3: They knew that was the.

1627
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:19,560
Speaker 4: Wrong agent for me. Going to Andy Crook Miller Crook facts.

1628
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 1: He stole from me.

1629
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he stole talk about it and they brought

1630
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 4: it up me. He said, boys, you're well.

1631
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 3: I felt good to be free.

1632
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 1: Like if you want to look right in his eyes too,

1633
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 1: even that personal Okay.

1634
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 4: He's just a boy. Excuse me my language. Don't even

1635
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 4: talk like that. Yeah, like keeping the band my boys

1636
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:49,719
Speaker 4: over there partly like I don't even talk like that.

1637
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 4: But Andy in my career. Keep it a band with you,

1638
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 4: Mike my.

1639
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:57,679
Speaker 1: So he was in your agent the whole time.

1640
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 4: Yep, yep. I got an agent the last year, a

1641
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 4: different agent my last year, and I was like, okay, see,

1642
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:07,880
Speaker 4: but Andy is my agent the whole time, Like that's

1643
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 4: the fact. But he didn't want me to fire him.

1644
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 4: He did signed wrong and I caught him and he

1645
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 4: didn't want me to fire him. So instead of allowing

1646
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 4: me to fire him, he went into litigation with me

1647
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 4: for a whole year, the summer while I'm in contract. Yeah,

1648
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 4: that's how I ended up in China, dead ass. And

1649
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 4: then he told me this when I got to the

1650
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 4: point where I was like, Broy, you feel me, I'll

1651
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 4: tell y'all off camera. But I was like he had

1652
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:32,560
Speaker 4: to tell me. He's like, I just didn't want you

1653
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:36,639
Speaker 4: to fire me. Well, when I say live, I share

1654
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 4: a story with y'all. This during the lockout. This is

1655
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:46,639
Speaker 4: during the lockout, and I'm sending in the crib up State, right,

1656
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 4: I remember sit like it was yesterday. I'm sending in

1657
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 4: the crib up State and the lockout ended. We didn't

1658
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 4: nobody knew when the lockout was going in. So the

1659
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 4: lockout ended him and he called me. He was like,

1660
01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:01,720
Speaker 4: lockout ended, Phoenix Suns want you to sign with them

1661
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 4: for one point five million dollars. I was like, like

1662
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 4: one point five it's like, tell him give me two

1663
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:11,599
Speaker 4: million dollars and I'm gonna come right, And he was like,

1664
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 4: all right, let me call him. He called me back like, oh, TJ.

1665
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 4: Ford just signed with Spurs to one but five. I said,

1666
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 4: fuck what TJ Ford just did?

1667
01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:19,599
Speaker 3: Right?

1668
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 4: He got an injury and he's older than me. So

1669
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 4: he called me back and he was like, all right,

1670
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 4: I got I got the deal for you here as

1671
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:29,720
Speaker 4: goals you on your salaries one point five and then

1672
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 4: they got a five hund They're gonna buy you out

1673
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 4: of your second year five hundred thousand at the end

1674
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 4: of the season. Ten days after the season, I said deal.

1675
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 4: I got on the plane, I went to Phoenix, signed

1676
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:42,639
Speaker 4: the contract when the Phoenix played there. When I got

1677
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:45,600
Speaker 4: to Phoenix, I wasn't in great shape because I was

1678
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 4: in the crib chilling tell you the truth, right, But

1679
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 4: I got Steve Nash who's a little older, and I

1680
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:53,760
Speaker 4: got Ronnie Price. Ronnie Price is you feel me likece

1681
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 4: is a good player, but like, you know what I'm saying,

1682
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 4: start playing with me when we start yeah from the yeah,

1683
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:00,599
Speaker 4: and he can't go into no bags. I love ryany price.

1684
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 4: We can't go into no bag athletic and all that. So,

1685
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:05,680
Speaker 4: but they compete in heavy with me because I'm not

1686
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:08,800
Speaker 4: in shape. But I get in shape all Star break,

1687
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 4: I started playing crazy good. We went on that run.

1688
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:15,559
Speaker 4: I said, average fifteen and fucking seven.

1689
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 1: Right.

1690
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 4: So the week before the season, I meet with Andy

1691
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 4: and Houston and I'm like, Yo, what type of contract

1692
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:24,720
Speaker 4: can I get? You're like, ooh, the team love you.

1693
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:27,639
Speaker 4: He said the minimum, get like at least three four years,

1694
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:30,599
Speaker 4: five million a contract. I'm like, that's what I need.

1695
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:32,559
Speaker 4: I get that. I'll be able to get that. Then

1696
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 4: work myself up to, you know, a better position. That night,

1697
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 4: I went out and kicked Cal Lowry and who was

1698
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 4: playing for Houston Rockets that year, Cal Larie Aaron Brooks

1699
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 4: beat the run a tape. I keep saying that run

1700
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:47,720
Speaker 4: him taste back. You can't a lie, run them back,

1701
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 4: dog them. They don't know why though they already getting

1702
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 4: their money. But I'm out there like three him about

1703
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 4: to get paid for the first time, right and get

1704
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:58,679
Speaker 4: a team to invest in me. Boom. The season ended.

1705
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:01,600
Speaker 4: Hold on. At the season, I'm like, I'll go. I

1706
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 4: go to the president of operation. I say, y'all got

1707
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:05,679
Speaker 4: me in the locker room and all these dudes making

1708
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 4: all this money, give me my money in six months

1709
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:10,880
Speaker 4: so I can get bigger checks. Make it make sense, right?

1710
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 4: So I did that too. Season ends, My paycheck ends.

1711
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 4: I wait the ten days, I get the call on them,

1712
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 4: like where's my five hundred thousand? Them niggas is like, oh,

1713
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:27,720
Speaker 4: we love you as a player, absolutely love you. You're

1714
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:30,640
Speaker 4: gonna play for this contract. We're not gonna let you.

1715
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 4: We're not gonna sign you off and give you the

1716
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 4: five hundred thousand. We want you to play. So I said,

1717
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 4: hold on. The deal was for me to get the

1718
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 4: five hundred thousand. Andy Miller Live. So I went through litigation.

1719
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 4: That's somewher with them. Imagine how I'm talking to them.

1720
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 4: These are the ones dudes. Imagine how I'm talking to them.

1721
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 4: The gloves is off at this point, I'm going crazy

1722
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 4: on them. I end up not even getting a deal.

1723
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 4: They end up. They end up I end up playing

1724
01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 4: for the one point six million dollars they supposed it

1725
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 4: wasn't supposed to be a conscious five one point five.

1726
01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 4: Give me the five hundred thousand. I go about my business.

1727
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 4: If y'all want to keep me, we could sign a

1728
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 4: new contract right there. When I explained that to them,

1729
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 4: they was like, he lied, so he thought I was

1730
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 4: gonna go there at the end of the season. It

1731
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:14,720
Speaker 4: wasn't gonna want me, and it was gonna give me

1732
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 4: a five hundred thousand, and then he went to lie.

1733
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:20,439
Speaker 4: But that's how he lied facts. And then I then

1734
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:23,280
Speaker 4: going through that, I realized, oh shit, I've been in

1735
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:26,760
Speaker 4: the NBA this whole time. I didn't realize that if

1736
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 4: you get into a problem with your agent, the NBA

1737
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 4: is on the agent side, Like the NBA will not

1738
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 4: represent you against your agent. Other shit, they will and

1739
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 4: assist you, but against your agent they wion't. So I

1740
01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:44,760
Speaker 4: learned that the hallway that fucked my career. I never

1741
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 4: was to say I end up going to China and whatever.

1742
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 4: It was a dub and and the excuse was he

1743
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:51,880
Speaker 4: didn't want me to fire him. I ain't see and

1744
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 4: the sense like I know they say he worked for

1745
01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 4: rich and though somewhere I don't know, they say what

1746
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:59,200
Speaker 4: I think got his license taken. He worked for rich

1747
01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:04,439
Speaker 4: but yeah, and they he's a sleeze ball at the minimum. Yeah,

1748
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 4: I said it, say.

1749
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:10,320
Speaker 3: Most underrated food spot in New York.

1750
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 4: Most underrated food spot in New York is Lenny's.

1751
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 3: What is it?

1752
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 4: What kind of food is Chinese food? One of a

1753
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 4: Connies Linnies. We call him Junetoile.

1754
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 3: Where're at ye deep in the Jays? Yeah?

1755
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, facts deep in the right?

1756
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 3: Your kitchen, Yeah, kitchen good, kitchen clean.

1757
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 4: And they called it the forty forty forty forty.

1758
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:40,280
Speaker 3: Facts.

1759
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 4: You gotta come through and.

1760
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:53,639
Speaker 1: Get you right. One thing you wish you was better at?

1761
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 4: Mm hmm. That's a good question. One thing I wish

1762
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 4: I was better at. I wish I was a better

1763
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:11,760
Speaker 4: I'd be a better dad. If I could be anything better,

1764
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 4: I'll be a better dad. Because being a dad is

1765
01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 4: something that we are. Being a good dad something that

1766
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 4: we all want to be. But having the patience at

1767
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:22,760
Speaker 4: all times is something that you have to master. So

1768
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 4: if I can master that patience, like I take that.

1769
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 2: Song album or artists to play over your career highlights.

1770
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 4: Oh we're going with Cam Purple Haze, Fat Purple Haze

1771
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:44,800
Speaker 4: on the Bitch. Facts soap opera all that, Yeah, know

1772
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:48,559
Speaker 4: how to do it? And I got I got that album.

1773
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 4: I got that album like shorty, my ex bought that

1774
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 4: album for me, like like joking around, like well you

1775
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 4: knew York y'all dressing like like y'all diddy bop, shitty

1776
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:00,640
Speaker 4: titty pop. She would say at the top, what I

1777
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:04,160
Speaker 4: put that album in? Been stuck since this is Old four?

1778
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 4: When I came a Old four, same time coming into

1779
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:07,679
Speaker 4: the league.

1780
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 2: One guess you can see on All the Smoke, But

1781
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 2: but you have to help us get your answer on

1782
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 2: our show.

1783
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 3: I want to ask you that again.

1784
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 4: Yes, who would you like to see on All the Smoke?

1785
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 4: She got to help us get Mike Tyson.

1786
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:28,719
Speaker 2: Oh you know Mike Tyson. Nope, that can't listen. Listen

1787
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 2: to the full question. I met Mike Tyson like he

1788
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 2: knew me. No, listen to the full question. Who would

1789
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 2: you like to see on our show? But all right,

1790
01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:39,599
Speaker 2: you have to help us get your answer somebody you know?

1791
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would like to get Steph on the show

1792
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 4: for sure. Yeah, Steph outside. We just had this conversation start.

1793
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 4: We need you outside. It ain't the same.

1794
01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 3: We're gonna go so up if you come outside.

1795
01:24:53,479 --> 01:25:00,160
Speaker 4: Come tell him how I busch the ass and contu.

1796
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:02,759
Speaker 3: Stay back. We need you outside.

1797
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 4: Start a sap, not over zoom like that is he here?

1798
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:12,280
Speaker 2: We need to start pull up. We need to go

1799
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:14,679
Speaker 2: crazy when you come outside. We're going crazy.

1800
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 1: Trust stephe going crazy.

1801
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 3: Man.

1802
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:21,360
Speaker 1: Well that's a wrap, Bassie Man. We appreciate you. You know,

1803
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 1: should we go back your journey. I'm glad you're getting

1804
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 1: out and telling your side. I think that's important bro,

1805
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 1: you know, I mean like you were so decorated and

1806
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden he was off the map.

1807
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:31,880
Speaker 1: So come out and talk your ship.

1808
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 4: Bro.

1809
01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:33,760
Speaker 1: It was a pleasure having you on the show on

1810
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 1: the Smoke.

1811
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:34,680
Speaker 4: Appreciate it.

1812
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:37,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a wrap. That's a wrap. You can catch

1813
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 1: this episode on all the Smoke productions.

1814
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 4: See y'all stand up.

1815
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 3: Yeah,