1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: You were listening to Ruthie's Table four in partnership with Montclair. 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 2: We have good news. Ruthie's Table four is launching on YouTube. 3 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 2: Starting with today's episode with Benedict Cumberbatch. You'll be able 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 2: to watch the conversation in full, and then throughout the summer, 5 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 2: we'll be posting some of our favorite interviews across the series. 6 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: To watch, go to YouTube dot com slash hat symbol 7 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: Ruthie's Table four pod. I can't wait to see you there. 8 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 2: If life is about connections, I feel connected to Benedict Cumberbatch. 9 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: Rick Rubin season two Table four seated us together at 10 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 2: a dinner a few years ago, and I remember it 11 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: as if it was yesterday, Benedict talking about the food 12 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 2: he was cooking for his kids this morning at breakfast. 13 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 2: Carrie Fukenega season two recalled asking me to find a 14 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: phishmonger to teach Benedict how to fill out a sea 15 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: bass for his role in the thriller Blood on Snow 16 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: and how he passed with flying colors. Jj Abrams season 17 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 2: three texted me late last night saying, Ruthie, Benedict must 18 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: not be of this earth, describing him as a limitless 19 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: talent somehow feels like an understatement. And Wes Anderson season three, 20 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 2: when I told him I was seeing Benedict described him 21 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 2: as one of the great actors of our time. He's 22 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: like an Olivier or a Gielgud mixed with a de 23 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 2: Niro or a Hoffman to fit. Keep going out of here. Bye, 24 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: there was somebody here. We're going to put on this podcast, Okay. 25 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: Benedict and I are also connected by values. We're both 26 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 2: politically and socially active. He thinks about the food, he 27 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: eats the issues of sustainability, fairness, and civil liberties. He's 28 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: here with me now in the River Cafe to talk 29 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: about food and film, family and friends. Benedict is someone 30 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: I respect, I admire, and I love. That's the real connection. 31 00:01:59,280 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. 32 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 2: So we start with reading the recipe and then we've 33 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 2: got that over the edge and you can read it 34 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: anyway you want. Okay, you can read it. Okay, that's ruthy. 35 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: I heard that. I don't know. I try. 36 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 3: I try to read it. Okay, do you want to try? 37 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 3: I find impression. I can also do impressively, and I 38 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 3: feel really cruel. 39 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 2: No, you could be cruel. 40 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 4: Okay, I'll take that introduction back and actually, what. 41 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 3: A ship ship? Okay, I'll try. I'll try spilen and 42 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: roasty Langstein's to have Langastein's tables dried three to for. 43 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 4: Three chill lower my ten extra version of it's getting quite. 44 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 3: Kathleen, were getting Kathleen? Okay, Split and roasted langostinees twelve Langstein's, 45 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 3: two tablespoons of dried oregano, three to four dried chilis, 46 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 3: two lemons, extra virgin olive oil. Preheat the ovens to 47 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,399 Speaker 3: two hundred and twenty degrees see gas seven. Cut each 48 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 3: langostine in half lengthways, Sprinkle the flesh side with oregano 49 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 3: and crumpled chili in season drizzled with olive oil, and 50 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 3: squeeze over the juice of one lemon. He's a large tray, 51 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 3: and place the langostine's on it, cut side up, side 52 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 3: by side. Roast in the preheated oven for four to 53 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 3: five minutes. Serve hot with lemon. That sounds within my capability. 54 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 2: Is now, but your cook, I do cook? 55 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it. But I love this the story 56 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 3: of a place, Ruth. I love that this grew up 57 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 3: with the limitations of being somewhere for people to eat nearby, 58 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 3: and then you've got a Michelin star and blew it 59 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 3: out of the water. It's just insane like orget. 60 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 2: And we use the word organic because we're just looking. 61 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 2: We've never done another restaurant, and this one just has 62 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: grown from being four seats. 63 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 3: It's all organic. 64 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's how you grow, you know, how you do. 65 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: You look at your doing films that way, the. 66 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 3: Kind of films I mean, yeah, that's the nicest way 67 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 3: to do it. You just kind of a conversation grows 68 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 3: around an artist or a particular story or an actor 69 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 3: actor as an artist. But you know what I mean, 70 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 3: there's so for example, Olivia Coleman and I have friends 71 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 3: who have been friends for years. 72 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 2: Episode what episode episode four? 73 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 3: She's good. She might have been season two, but you know, 74 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 3: we've been friends for a while, and we said drunkenly 75 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 3: every time we we should do something to you know, 76 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 3: never have happened. And then some grown ups had a 77 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 3: good idea, and here we are and The Roses comes 78 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 3: out in August, which is fantastic. 79 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 2: I cannot wait to see that. I think I'm probably 80 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 2: the only person in this one that really remembers the 81 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: War of the Road, right, you know, and Kathy and 82 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 2: they voice double yeah, but tell me about it. 83 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 3: I mean, so, I'm playing an architect Olivia Comman you've 84 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 3: already had on the show, who plays a chef, and 85 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 3: it's about it's about their relationship based on the original 86 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 3: book and then obviously the iconic film m Kathleen Turner, 87 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 3: Michael Douglas and Danny Devita who directed it. You know, 88 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 3: it's based on that paradigm of a couple who start 89 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 3: with a furiously wonderful, beautiful archetypal romance and they're impulsive 90 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 3: and physical and they have a family, and one person's 91 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 3: career is kind of stagnated because of the family. The 92 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 3: other person's doing really well, has a disaster. The other 93 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 3: one goes on the up and up, and that's her. 94 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,559 Speaker 3: That's Olivia's character as a chef, and she becomes this huge, 95 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 3: big deal, a bit like you, and I'm sure, yeah, 96 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 3: come on, and I like Richard mine has a nose dive. 97 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 3: And it's about then what it's really I don't want 98 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 3: to give it away, but just the joy of just 99 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 3: the kind of raw ingredients to you because of your 100 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 3: architect and he supports her as well. That's the other 101 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 3: beautiful thing about it. He helps her with prize money 102 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 3: that he's one to start her career. He pulls her 103 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 3: out of domesticity and said, you should be doing this 104 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 3: for people at large. You can't keep treating us to 105 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 3: iconic desserts every other day. You should be doing this 106 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 3: and being celebrated how brilliant you are. So it's a 107 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 3: really magnanimous, loving gesture. But it's about what happens when 108 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 3: two people don't hold each other in mind. I guess 109 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 3: they lose the conversation of the couple and these little 110 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 3: things start to build, these kind of antagonisms, this kind 111 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 3: of you know, the dreaded word resentment, and it poisons 112 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 3: their relationship. And food is such a central point of 113 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 3: talking about poison because obviously it's her artistry, it's how 114 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 3: she succeeds in the World's how she expresses herself, how 115 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 3: she evolves in the story, and it's also her downfall. 116 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 3: It's also what takes her away from family, what takes 117 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 3: her away from her husband, and it's in a way 118 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 3: also what he uses to sabotage her. Without telling you what. 119 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 2: Happens, but and when is it coming out. 120 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 3: It's coming out late August Labor Day weekend in the 121 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 3: States and just just just afterwards its global. So yeah, 122 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 3: it was such fun and it's gone down very well. 123 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: It's good to work and have fun. That's what really 124 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 2: really ultimately. 125 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, or you know, but well, I think sometimes the 126 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 3: fun can be a bit perverse. It can be the 127 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 3: hard work can be the joy. You know, Carry for Canago, 128 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 3: well I did with him was great fun and that's 129 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 3: not for a while, but we could talk about that 130 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 3: because I know he's a friend of yours. It was great. 131 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 3: I mean it was a three day punch in punch out. 132 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 3: I was the sort of bad guy at the end 133 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 3: of this. Tom Harley couldn't do it, so I stepped 134 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 3: in to do it and have no shame about that. 135 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 3: And that's again that's public and I just thought I 136 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 3: want to work with Carry. It's fun material shooting in 137 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 3: London and Aaron's and the scenes with Means and Eva Green. 138 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 3: I mean, what great talents to work with. And it's 139 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 3: a cracking character. It's sort of very dark, omnipotently powerful 140 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 3: presence in the film, and it's a bit like you know, 141 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 3: God turning up at the end in terms of storytelling. 142 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 3: So I just had a lot of fun with it, 143 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 3: a lot of fun with it and a big character. 144 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 2: I mean, he wanted to be here today. He said 145 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 2: he would come as she going he left. I think 146 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: his flight was. 147 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 3: I'd work with him heart. But we got an incredibly well. 148 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 3: I love what he did, and he was just so 149 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 3: brilliant with his crew, but with his actors, and also 150 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 3: at the end of a long shoot to get this 151 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 3: thing in three days, and he was remarkably relaxed considering. 152 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 2: I was like, filling the fish hard and stinky and great. 153 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: It's a really hard thing to do. I mean, I see. 154 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 3: Them, I take three of the boys that helped me 155 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,119 Speaker 3: out were like, it's not half bad that. 156 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 2: They were impressed with your you know, because it isn't. 157 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 3: I mean, it's not easy, and especially when you're acting 158 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 3: with your back to one of the greatest and also 159 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 3: most dangerous and iconic French film mattresses of a generation, 160 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 3: Eva Green, and I was like, I'm trying to hold 161 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 3: a scene with her, and I've got a camera up 162 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 3: my nose there and I'm fillitting this fish, and I 163 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 3: wanted to look really good, like I can just do 164 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 3: it blindfolded. I only had one afternoon try. 165 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 2: Big Fish, and then well, you have to come in 166 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 2: here and kill some fish us because you do a film. 167 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 2: I've seen it with my friends and you know, it's 168 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 2: a family's intense. It's really intense, and then it's over. 169 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 2: A friend of mine said that he kind of felt 170 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 2: sometimes at the end of movies like his parents telling 171 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 2: him that they were getting a divorce. I mean, maybe 172 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 2: that's extreme, but he said, you just felt the family exactly. 173 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 2: But I think West particularly does, doesn't he Wes is. 174 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, West is very There's a lot of repeat 175 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 3: custom both within the cast and the crew of West's. 176 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 3: You know, he holds his team together and so that's 177 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 3: you feel like you're going back into a repertory with him. 178 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 3: It's wonderful and I absolutely adored both experiences. Henry was 179 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 3: Henry Sugar was very particular in the sense that it 180 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 3: was lockdown. There was a lot of COVID around. Actually 181 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 3: wasn't lockdown, but it was what was early twenty twenty one. 182 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 3: I think it was at the same time as the 183 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 3: Power of the Dog, Oscar and Pain and I was 184 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 3: touring and frying from La to do two weeks on 185 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 3: and then go back to La and then too, I 186 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 3: know if my family were in La because we decided 187 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 3: to make a few months out of it and they 188 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 3: went to school out there, and it was it was 189 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 3: just great. We had a proper, proper life for a 190 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 3: bit there, which is incredible, incredible. And yet then this 191 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 3: job came up and I was like, oh my god, 192 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 3: I'm now I'm going to have to go back to England. 193 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 3: So that was a bit weird, the Swiss Cheese experience 194 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 3: of me coming and going. But it was magic with 195 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 3: West because he really held this and there was an 196 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 3: option you could stay at the hotel down the road 197 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 3: or you could stay with West in his home. And 198 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 3: I went, now I'm going to go. I'm going to 199 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 3: go hard on this one. I'm going to go the 200 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 3: full Westel. It was magic. You know, Raife was there 201 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 3: and other actors were there every night and again, coming 202 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 3: in and out, and you know, to be to be 203 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 3: held by him and his family and the people who 204 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 3: work in his home and this extraordinary food culture that 205 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 3: he does with recipes from the New York Times all 206 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 3: the time, your food being carted from London on a weekend, 207 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 3: and it's just like Wow, that's amazing. I think I'll 208 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 3: stay here rather than. 209 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 2: He really cares, and I think you right. 210 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 3: It was like film school, you know, after we had 211 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 3: we'd sit down to watch a movie, and you know, 212 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 3: it was I was very honest, I was. I thought, okay, 213 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 3: this is the one time i had never seen Lawrence 214 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 3: of Arabia. I'm just going to say it in front 215 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 3: of this Siney Astin, extraordinary creator of cinema and iconic cinema. 216 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 3: At that Oh great, we'll we can watch it, and 217 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 3: let's got an intermission, so that's good. Watch the rest 218 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 3: of the next day, and then we get up at a 219 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 3: very leisurely sort of you know, we have a call 220 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 3: at about ten thirty or nine thirty was unheard of 221 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 3: itim filming. But then you go into the set these 222 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 3: amazing Anda stockhowers and creations, which was just like I 223 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 3: mean like pop up things with old fashioned flats that 224 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 3: would just fly up into the rigging and you go back. 225 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 3: So you'd start walking on the street and then you'd 226 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 3: be in a in a casino atrium. Then you go 227 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 3: through to the main body of the casino with like 228 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 3: you know, one hundred extras moving about and doing all 229 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 3: their things meticulously, then sit down at a roulette table 230 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 3: and talk because didn't talk, you know, whatever it was 231 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 3: he was playing flat jackle you know, and they look 232 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 3: up at a camera and thing that was that unbelievably technical, 233 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 3: and you were you were spitting out sort of sometimes 234 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 3: six seven eight pages in one take, continuous take and 235 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 3: doing it forty five times to get it right once 236 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 3: for use in the film, and incredibly focused, hard work 237 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 3: and really difficult, the amount of sort of can't use 238 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 3: that one, can't use that one because I forgot a 239 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 3: thing or a line went askew. I mean it was 240 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 3: there was so much to get right, and you were 241 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 3: dancing with the crew all the time, Sanjay, this operator 242 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 3: Bob who's is DFP making everything's work, but also all 243 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 3: the prop and set guys who were moving things, giving 244 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 3: you things, all the other actors. It was like, you know, 245 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 3: this this perfect balance of everything. But it was the 246 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 3: ultimate West experience. And then we'd be done by four 247 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 3: o'clock and I'd go home and go, oh in a bath, 248 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 3: and then you're up the stairs, Benedict, it's almost in 249 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 3: the grony time. Are you quite taking I was like yes, sure, 250 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 3: and then the cycle of good food and film and 251 00:12:58,080 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 3: he loves. 252 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 2: That, you know when we talk a lot about that, 253 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 2: that idea of that, whether it's you or Tilda, Ray 254 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 2: for the people, oh and that getting the people back. 255 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 2: I haven't seen the new movie. 256 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 3: Because you and I was working with Benicia, which was 257 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 3: and that was another thing as well. Babbel Spoke Studio. 258 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 3: It's the legendary Babel Bog studio, which. 259 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 2: Tell me about them. I don't know what they. 260 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 3: Are, so they're huge. I mean, you know, there's sound 261 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 3: stages from before the Second World War. I think they 262 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 3: might have been been during the First you know, May 263 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 3: and a Dietrich stage is one of the longest stages 264 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 3: in the world where West built two trains that meet 265 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 3: in a huge underground railway scene and you know, it's 266 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 3: it's it's just epic. And the amount of great filmmakers, 267 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 3: all the kind of Germans from you know, Fastpendergen at Al, 268 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 3: and then you've got all the modern greats like West, 269 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 3: Tino and Scor they've all come through. That's a wonderful 270 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 3: rich You feel. 271 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 2: That when you go to a film studio, because when 272 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 2: I've been to you that those early. 273 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 3: Pinege and and I don't mean to do because it's 274 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 3: my hometown. Doesn't home never carried quite as much from 275 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 3: as a foreign location. You know what about I have 276 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 3: but only for a fitting. I've I filmed in Rome 277 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 3: after that fitt is that I touched the thing and 278 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 3: I kind of loved it. It was very ramshackle when I 279 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 3: was like, I'm not sure what it's like now. This 280 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 3: a while ago and there was sort of grass growing 281 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 3: out of the paper and half abandoned. But this is it, 282 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 3: this is it. It's amazing. It's going to be interesting 283 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 3: what the future holds. And this kind of digital time 284 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 3: of you know, volumes, if you heard about volumes, spaces 285 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 3: like this that can just be anything. It's all to 286 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 3: do with how you create an environment that's utterly AI. 287 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 3: It's all virtual reality, and so you enter a volume 288 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 3: and you have minimal props of furnishing and then everything 289 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 3: else is sort of fake. 290 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 2: It saves a huge amount of money. 291 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 3: I've never done it. I mean i've done sort of. 292 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 3: I've done a mocap stage, which is where your body 293 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 3: then gets your movements get turned into an avatar that 294 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 3: gets turned into the character, in my case a dragon. 295 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,239 Speaker 3: But you know, it could be anything, and that's extraordinary. 296 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 3: But it's like being a sort of tax return office. 297 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 3: It's really really bland. It's sort of carpeted and neon 298 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 3: lighting and none of the glamor of a set or location. 299 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 3: But you know, you're free, like a child in his bedroom, 300 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 3: just to imagine it all. And that's a kind of 301 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 3: gift in itself. But the volume, I think slightly different. 302 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 3: I've never experienced it. I met Jeff Bridges and of gosh, 303 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 3: here was the other actor who's coming out of one, 304 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 3: and they looked utterly shell shocked. Of a different generation, 305 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 3: kind of go, what do we do? 306 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 2: I think that's the thing. Generation. It's like you knew 307 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 2: it was before, but there'll be a generation. 308 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 3: Wholl just know that you will know. 309 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 2: I think, yes, there's a conversation we have a lot, 310 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 2: which is are you scared of AI? And how scared 311 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 2: of we have AI? And why should we be scared 312 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 2: in it? And I'm scared because I don't. 313 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 3: Think there's anyone in a room somewhere kind of you know, 314 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 3: overseeing the rules of this. 315 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 2: Imagine estate. Bottled olive oil chosen and bottled for the 316 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 2: River Cafe, arriving at your door every month. Our subscription 317 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 2: is available for six or twelve months, with each oil 318 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 2: chosen personally by our head chefs and varying with each delivery. 319 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 2: It's a perfect way to bring some River Cafe flavor 320 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 2: into your home or to show someone you really care 321 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 2: for them with the gift. Visit our website shop the 322 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 2: Rivercafe dot co dot uk to place your order. Now, 323 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 2: tell me about growing up. Where were you born. 324 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 3: I was born in London, in West London and mum 325 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 3: and dad had a flat in Kensington which mummud think 326 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 3: I had since the early seventies and it was like 327 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 3: three grand and they're still there. They are both actors. Okay, yeah, 328 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 3: they played my parents in Sherlock. It's quite sweet. That's 329 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 3: not their any credit of the most relevant one to me, 330 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 3: I guess in my career, but they are wonderful. 331 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 2: Were in a theatrical home? Were they there in the evenings? 332 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 2: Were they in places? 333 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 3: Yes, so by and large, but yes when one of 334 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 3: them was working. You know, there was a lot of 335 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 3: theater when I was growing up, and did a lot 336 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 3: of farces in the West End, lots of Raycooney Fastes. 337 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 3: Until I told her I couldn't bear her coming in 338 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 3: on her husband and his male assistant pulling his trousers anymore. 339 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 3: I like, I'm sixteen. That was getting really mortified. You've 340 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 3: got to you've got a class up of it. But 341 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 3: having said that, I mean, if you could do fast, 342 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 3: you can do anything. Donald Senden and Michael Williams used 343 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 3: to do it. You know in productions with hers, they 344 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 3: are they're. 345 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 2: Very noises on one that that my dad was in 346 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 2: the second castle, and that was I was. 347 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 3: That was the most proud of the kind of farce 348 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 3: ere I was because I remember practicing. He had this 349 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 3: whole bit where they were throwing a plate and he 350 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 3: had to either throw it or catch it, so we 351 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 3: go into the park instead of him kicking a football 352 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 3: to me, I was kind of throwing and he got 353 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 3: it every time I saw and do it. But it 354 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 3: was it was magic that difficult. And I went to 355 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 3: boarding school I was eight, so you know. 356 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 2: I was as well school. 357 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 3: For a long part of my kind of wonderful when 358 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 3: I was eight. I mean, you know, I remember those 359 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 3: first anxious moments and watching the parents cry as they 360 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 3: walked away. But I found about her brothers. I was 361 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 3: an only child. My sister from mum's first marriage was 362 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:28,959 Speaker 3: eighteen years old or so. She left home when I 363 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 3: was literally when I was born practically and was always 364 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 3: a best friend and like a sort of elder arm 365 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 3: figure and someone I could always have on my side. 366 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 3: But she wasn't there, so I didn't have a community 367 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 3: at home at all, and I found it at school. 368 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 3: So it was a mixed thing, you know, the aitual 369 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 3: lurch of like, oh God, this is weird, where are 370 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 3: they going? You know? But then I had a blast. 371 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 3: I went there to last weekend. It was my old 372 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 3: head master and her mistress's memorial and it was in 373 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 3: a theater that Judy Danceho's a friend of mine and 374 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 3: Dad's had opened, and I did a little reading at 375 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 3: the end, and it was like walking through all these 376 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 3: Pristian Madeline Kate memory moments, just like wave after wave 377 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 3: of ghosts and just trees that look the same that 378 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 3: I did my first ever drawings of, you know, playing 379 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 3: fields where I first tried to play tennis and cricket 380 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 3: and rubby and all the rest than just and the 381 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 3: classrooms had changed a lot, and the standard of artwork 382 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 3: and stuff in the art part was off the scale. 383 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 3: It's a beautiful, beautiful school called bramble Tye in East 384 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 3: Grinstead and it was a dic and it was outside 385 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 3: of London. It was this. It was going on my 386 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 3: love of literature and food and food. And I'm saying 387 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 3: literature and amazing great memory, but everything sports, culture, music, drama. 388 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 3: Not really I said food because we're here I can 389 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 3: hear people background, but that would be really disingenious. It wasn't. 390 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 3: I didn't go away going God damn it. Food's great. 391 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 3: That came away going. Okay, it's just something keep you going. Yeah, 392 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 3: I mean we had treats, but it was you know, 393 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 3: the roast, you know, Yorkshire putting with something. 394 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 2: To But you were in boarding school school. 395 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 3: From eight till eighteen. Yeah, oh damn it. 396 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 2: You have good memory. I have good memories of school 397 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 2: to you. And it's kind of rare that people. I mean, 398 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 2: maybe more, but I loved my and I was also 399 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 2: I went for the last few years. I was on 400 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 2: a ranch in Colorado, so I didn't learn anything, but 401 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 2: we had. 402 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 3: It was a ranch in color Yeah. 403 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I'm not very bright. 404 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 3: I'll come on. 405 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 2: But you do rarely meet somebody who says that they 406 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 2: loved their school, So that's, you know, good true, But 407 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 2: then you when would you eat well, then would you 408 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 2: eat your mother would cook. 409 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 3: So would you come up there badly at home as well, 410 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 3: like McDonald's was a big tree. I'm afraid I mentioned 411 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 3: those words on this, but yeah. 412 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 2: I'm empathetic to mothers who can't cook because they're working. 413 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 3: And know it was just a treat. I mean, she 414 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 3: really could cook, but it was like. 415 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 2: No, I don't mean can't cook, but they were working. 416 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 3: She lives in the theater, but she still managed to 417 00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 3: do it. Especially at the weekend. She would she would, 418 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 3: I mean, god, I remember her doing an amazing Christmas 419 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 3: meal and then pissing off of the Boxing day matinee. 420 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 3: You know at my grandmother's was not even her kitchen 421 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 3: with this old oil fueled argo, which was just very haphazard, 422 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 3: like you know, read for one hour three and a 423 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 3: half and even then you could suddenly shoot up and 424 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,959 Speaker 3: burn at the last minute. I mean, it was a nightmare. 425 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 3: So she constantly had her face in the oven. Had 426 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 3: mean was you're quite lately, you're probably going through the 427 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 3: perimenopause as well, so just like sweating away in this 428 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 3: kitchen serving people who were pretty lazy and inept domestically. 429 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 3: I loved my grandmother and my dad, but dad, Dad 430 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 3: would help obviously, but yeah, it was. It was quite 431 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 3: an ordeal. And then she'd be the one working, you know, 432 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 3: literally the next day. Father respect for that. Dad could 433 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 3: do a mean grilled pork chop and to meet, you know, 434 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 3: they meet two veggs, you know, peas and potatoes, that 435 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 3: kind of thing. And we had this little grill at 436 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 3: home which was also a retisserie for chickens. I can't 437 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 3: remember what it was called. Tis probably like it's a 438 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 3: specific thing. It was like a turn rap, but it 439 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 3: could also be a grill. But I had a little 440 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 3: retistery thing on the side and little small thing that 441 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 3: would fold up. Mum and Dad gave me their old 442 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 3: ones on my heartbreaks and moving into my new flat, 443 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 3: and I left it outside whilst I was moving other stuff, 444 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 3: and it it just went in a communal allways. Someone 445 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 3: took it. So which of these fifty odd flats have 446 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 3: taken my care? Trying to sniff out you lovely. 447 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 2: Girl, it's a memory and. 448 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 3: So Dad Dad coped. There were quite a few sort 449 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 3: of frozen stir fries out of packets. You know, they're 450 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 3: the baby boomer generation that kind of went, hey, we 451 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 3: don't have to prepare or think about the ingredients. So 452 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 3: it took me a while to go and kind of go, oh, 453 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 3: Farmer's market, where does this what's the provenance of what 454 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 3: I'm eating? Even though you know that I was with 455 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 3: people who could cook, I mean especially home cooking was 456 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 3: not done with a lavish budget. We didn't eat out 457 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 3: a lot restaurant, no, I mean garf, Uncles, McDonald's. You know, 458 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 3: I think that you know that one of my slightly 459 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 3: well more well to do friends and his family the 460 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 3: first time out our Chinese food Golden Bowl, that's like russaurant. 461 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 3: I know it's still there near South Kensington, and there 462 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 3: was a lazy is it lazy? Susan the thing that 463 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 3: turns in the middle. I didn't know what to do 464 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 3: with myself. I was like, it's not just meat and 465 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 3: too veg. It was amazing and I just had I 466 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 3: fell in love with the idea of tastes of things, 467 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 3: little pieces of things. It blew my mind. 468 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 2: Did they entertain. 469 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 3: Yes, very rarely, they were very they are They're still 470 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 3: with us well, Dad's with them. They're much more interesting. 471 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 2: So can we call them up? 472 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, definitely. They so great, Yeah they are. They're larger, well, Mum, 473 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 3: especially larger than knife and Dad is. Dad's a creature 474 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 3: of habit when it comes to food and that thing. Yeah, 475 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 3: tea at a certain time with a biscuit and you know, 476 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 3: then you'd start with either whiskey or a gen t 477 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 3: and then a couple of glasses of wine at dinner. 478 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 2: Kind of structures today if you or you're weak or 479 00:23:59,000 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 2: your month. 480 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 3: I think that was his curse from boarding school as well. 481 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 3: And then mom. For me, the kind of routine was 482 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 3: the weekend cook and I learned first of all actually 483 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 3: with my godmother, and it was all sort of desserts. 484 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 3: It was meringues that were gooey in the middle, and 485 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 3: brownies and then I and I remember having a tiny 486 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 3: little Star Wars square Star Wars pants, this tiny little 487 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 3: notebook which I very diligently wrote down the recipes. 488 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 2: Somewhere, Yeah, somewhere, we have a thing about notebooks here 489 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 2: because Tom Hollander, you know, his grandmother, here's his gand 490 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 2: I think his grandmother's his mother is grandmother's cookbook and 491 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 2: a lot of people and so did was it Christian 492 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 2: Scott Thomas and people come in with and it's a 493 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,479 Speaker 2: very beautiful thing to be handed down, the memories and 494 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 2: what you ate as a way of saying, you know, 495 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: this is who we are. 496 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,959 Speaker 3: My mom's mom did a mean stew I don't think 497 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 3: I've ever got any recipes from her though, I don't 498 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 3: think I really I really did learn my godmother, and 499 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 3: mainly with mom actually just helping her out in the kitchen. 500 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 2: Interesting the way people see, you know, performance and food, 501 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 2: isn't it whether you're people who want to eat when 502 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 2: they're in theory? I wonder what your mom did she 503 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 2: was in a mess before. 504 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't bear it because you just you eating. 505 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 3: You often, you know, have friends in and then they 506 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 3: want to go out to dinner, eating at eleven thirty 507 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 3: at night or something stupid. 508 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 2: Did you always know you wanted to act with your parents? 509 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 2: I did, but you didn't go They wanted you to 510 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 2: go to university first, or did you want. 511 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 3: To pay for a very expensive education. I think they 512 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 3: wanted me to at least have some kind of a backup, 513 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 3: and for a while it was the law. I mean 514 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 3: for a very short while, you know, after I got 515 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 3: some very good GCSEs, Everyone's like, oh oh Oxbridge maybe, 516 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 3: And then I sort of met lawyers further down the 517 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 3: line or people who were at the bar who just went, 518 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 3: if it's not your first choice, don't do it. You 519 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 3: know it turn back now, it's oversubscribed, it's peripatetic, it's 520 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 3: you know, that sounds a lot like acting. I'll stick 521 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 3: with that one. 522 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. 523 00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 3: I'm also my idea of the law was the very 524 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 3: kind of a antiic notion of advocating criminal law. Rumple 525 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 3: of the Bailey stuff. No, No, I didn't. I didn't. 526 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 3: I took humanities for my levels. 527 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 2: And did you act in Manchester? 528 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 3: I acted a lot at school and then a lot 529 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 3: at Manchester and maybe just had three productions. 530 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 2: Is that encouraged by the university or did you know? 531 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 3: It was very self generated? Actually we had a bit 532 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 3: through the drama department, cause I did a drama degree there, 533 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 3: but it was mainly what we got up to in 534 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 3: the drama societies. 535 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 2: You know, what did you do? 536 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 3: The first thing I did was tesman in had a 537 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 3: Garblin and I did God, they do all sorts of 538 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 3: things I did terribly. Yeah, I did really bad it. It 539 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 3: was awful. I wasn't really, I wasn't. I didn't really 540 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 3: have possession of the text. It was a bit hairy. 541 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 3: But Ricky Roman and Gungaria and Ross Sally played George 542 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 3: and Covech and they head I can't remember his name, 543 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 3: but the husband and during mats the visit, and I 544 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 3: didn't ever direct. No, no, I didn't. I'd love to. 545 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 3: I'd love to, but far better people doing that at 546 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 3: the university. I'd like to wonder. Yeah, but do you 547 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 3: remember the food a university? 548 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, did you guys cook yourselves or did you Yeah? 549 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 3: We did. That was our sort of but you know, 550 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 3: the bursoning moment of attempting to cook something nice and fresh. 551 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 3: But you know a lot of that was just sort 552 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 3: of tins of something or grabbing something from you know, 553 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 3: the Union Cafe, endless sandwiches on the hot I mean, 554 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 3: the best, the most utrious thing we'd have is a 555 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 3: scotch egg. I think the first really grown up good 556 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 3: meal I had would have been after my first pay 557 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 3: packet or two, and like going to the Anglesey Arms. 558 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 3: That was a place that was the first kind of local. 559 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 2: That I had in my life after your first play, 560 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 2: did you say that was? 561 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 3: Yes? I was Demetrius in the midsum of Night's Stream 562 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 3: at the Regent's Park opening the theater, and then the 563 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 3: King of the Varn lovesap was lost, and that's yeah. 564 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 3: I mean that was such bliss. There's such bliss when 565 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 3: you go, oh my god, I'm being paid to do 566 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 3: what I love. I can start to pay the debt 567 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 3: back to my parents, I can start to afford my rent, 568 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 3: and you know, and then after a little bit a 569 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 3: mortgage and having an odd meal or two. And my 570 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 3: local restaurant was the Uncle see Arms out of Flat 571 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 3: and Shepperd's Bush and yeah, yeah, Ringing is called Park 572 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 3: and wonderful, wonderful food, wonderful kitchen there. 573 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 2: But your cook I knew you cook. 574 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 3: I do cook, Yeah, I love it. 575 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 2: And you do cook your kids we were I am 576 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 2: right about that. 577 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 3: No, you're completely They are six, eight and ten, and 578 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 3: so what do you feed them? Well, we have a 579 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 3: kind of we have Daddy Morning pancakes on a Saturday pancakes. 580 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 581 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's nice. I mean it's kind of kind of traditional. 582 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 3: It's more on the crep side of pancakes rather than 583 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 3: the fluffy so I use just plain organic flower and 584 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 3: I use I put a little bit of another essence, 585 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 3: a little bit of cinnamon, and sometimes two or three eggs, 586 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 3: milk amounts amounts I already mentioned. Yeah, the aund I 587 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 3: pulled the milk in. 588 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 2: They come down. 589 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 3: I'm trying to marshle them into sort of taking parts. 590 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 3: So they usually fight over the funny easy jobs like 591 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 3: squeezing the elevens or cracking the eggs. But they can 592 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 3: be really helpful. They can be really helpful. I've completely 593 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 3: destroyed any sense of a line for me on a Saturday, 594 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 3: I think foreverything. 595 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. 596 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 3: That's it. When they're up like a weekday Friday night tradition. 597 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 2: Like it's called Daddy Saturday. 598 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 3: Yes, there's a daddy. 599 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 2: Remember. I interviewed people, you know sometimes things that remember 600 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 2: remember that, you know, they say, oh, when I was 601 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 2: you know, every every Tuesday night, my father did something 602 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 2: or my mother did something, we went to a restaurant. 603 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 2: Those rituals and those memories. 604 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I desay I was partly inspired by I mean, 605 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 3: I've already started doing it, but I thought, okay, I 606 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,479 Speaker 3: have to make this a Continuum by Rory Kanear, who 607 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 3: remembers his dad doing pancakes for them, you know, putting 608 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 3: on a city French accent. I've got three of them, 609 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 3: and it's I'm silly for a bit, and then I 610 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 3: get quite seriously, it's just like mush very dangerous, small 611 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 3: people with blunt instruments. It's it's it's good. It's there's 612 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 3: too long an island in the middle. For some reason, 613 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 3: we went for this crazy long island, which I quite 614 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 3: like because I do a lot of prep. Everyone else 615 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 3: who doesn't use the kitchen for cooking it's like, what's 616 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 3: this thing in the way, But I kind of like 617 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 3: it when it doesn't have bits of delivery on it. 618 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 2: Here, well, we really like the chefs having that time 619 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 2: to look across at each other, to talk, to be around. 620 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 2: You know, you can see them there, they're they're prepping, 621 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 2: they're talking. 622 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 3: I'm going to despise it because I'm always fascinated to 623 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 3: see the economics of the kitchen work. It's very difficult. 624 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 3: If there's two I'm quite pancakes is a different deal. 625 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 3: But if I'm doing a recipe from a recipe, I'm 626 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 3: quite I can't do that. Multitasking thing really good cooks 627 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 3: can do of talking, you know, getting people's drinks right, 628 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 3: as well as chopping, preparing, frying. 629 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 2: I get that it's hard. I think you need to focus. 630 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then if it's a dish I've done a lot, 631 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 3: or a one pot wonder, then I'm fine. Or a 632 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 3: roast where you can just leave it for a bit 633 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 3: and then get busy with the Do. 634 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 2: You eat in the kitchen as well? 635 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? We do. 636 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a distraction as well, isn't it when you 637 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 2: live sometimes when people are there? And then do you 638 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 2: like it when people hang around you when you're cooking? 639 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 2: Because I don't. 640 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't, and I get why they 641 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 3: want to, and it's frustrating because it's so I'm drawn 642 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 3: to it as well. Everyone's drawn to the heart that 643 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 3: I think when I know what I'm doing and I'm 644 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 3: really secure about it all, Like I say, something you 645 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 3: can just put in to heat and cook and just 646 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 3: you leave alone that I'm fine with it. 647 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 2: What are some of the other things you cook other 648 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 2: than people? 649 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 3: I do the roast chicken or the roast whatever on 650 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 3: a Sunday, but usually. 651 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 2: Chicken, So you do the family roast. 652 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I do the barbecues. I do the kind 653 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 3: of dad things in the garden. 654 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 2: Don't you eat what you're filming? When you're working on 655 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 2: a film? Do do you stop for breaks? Do you 656 00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 2: a special diet that you go on? 657 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 3: It depends what job. Yeah, I mean if I'm doing 658 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 3: a sort of high volume of exercise, I'm pumped for 659 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 3: something like the Marvel films and stock a strange which 660 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 3: you know you've got all that garb on. You need 661 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 3: that strength anyway to hold your posture, to have cause 662 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 3: strength to be strong in the harnesses or the fight 663 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 3: scenes and the flying. 664 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 2: Tell me more about that. 665 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 3: It's great fun. I love it. I love body transformation 666 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 3: in my job. I think it's it's part of the 667 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 3: kind of a what a thing to do if you 668 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 3: have the right guidance, which nowadays it is pretty brilliant. 669 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 3: You know the teams they put on that sort of thing. 670 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 3: If you don't have the budget, you have to do 671 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 3: it very very carefully. But you know, on Marvel it's 672 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 3: it's a big it's a big sandpit. So well, you 673 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 3: have someone who can prescribe you what you're eating and 674 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 3: they can cook you. We had a fantastic chef on 675 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 3: the last stock to strange film. So and then suddenly 676 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 3: you go, where's my food? I or the director and 677 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 3: the first ad and the dop you have got in 678 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 3: first you're like, okay, it's fine, I'm not paying for it, 679 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 3: so okay, But it's this amazing facility to go right. 680 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 3: He needs to be on this many calories a day 681 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 3: and he needs to have five meals. He used to 682 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 3: have a couple of balld eggs between those five meals, 683 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 3: or some kind of high protein snack cheese and crackers 684 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 3: or almond butter and crackers, crackers, lots of crackers. And 685 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 3: you know, for me, the exercise is great and the 686 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 3: end result is that you feel strong and you feel confident, 687 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 3: you hold yourself better, You have a stamina through the 688 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 3: X size and the food that makes you last through 689 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 3: the gig. But it is horrific. I don't like it personally. 690 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 3: I think it's horrific. Eating beyond your appetite. It's really 691 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 3: and again going back to responsibility and resourcefulness and you know, sustainability, 692 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 3: it's just like what am I doing? I could feed 693 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 3: a family with the amount of eating it just slowly 694 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 3: study you have to meet people where they are and 695 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 3: these issues in filmmaking. But it's it's a grossly wasteful industry. 696 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 3: So if we think about set bills that aren't recycled, 697 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 3: think about transport, think about food, think about housing, but 698 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 3: also light and energy. The amount of what is you 699 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 3: need to sort of create daylight and consistent light in 700 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 3: a studio environment. It's a lot of energy. So you know, 701 00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 3: the first people to stick the head above the parapet 702 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 3: talk about anything to do with climate and excessive use 703 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 3: of things, or hypocrisy or systems that don't work, get 704 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:11,439 Speaker 3: slammed off. They're actors because of very devout Yeah, yeah, yeah, 705 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 3: and actually it is a system, a systemic thing. But 706 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 3: does it produce I'm really hot on that. And we 707 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 3: try to push the green and I try to push 708 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,240 Speaker 3: the Green initiative, the Green an shake into every agreement 709 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,479 Speaker 3: I can, whether it's just a gentleman you discussion about 710 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 3: can we can we not have any single use plastic? Really, 711 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 3: I think we're beyond that. If people have water bottles 712 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 3: now they can bring and you can have an eurn, 713 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 3: you can have a tap. That's a good source of wards. 714 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 3: You don't have to give the crew plastic bottles if 715 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 3: you're in the middle of a desert and you can't 716 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 3: get glass bottles there fair enough, but we're in twenty 717 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:42,280 Speaker 3: first century. 718 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 2: My last question of this really beautiful interview, and thank 719 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 2: you for coming here. We could talk to talk for 720 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 2: ages and we will, is to ask you, if you 721 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 2: had to have a comfort food, is there one that 722 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 2: you would reach for when you need. 723 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 3: That kale sort of shocked in a pan with a 724 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 3: bit of olive oil and then lemon juice and some 725 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 3: chili flakes and then a tiny bit of water just 726 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,399 Speaker 3: to steam it sort of, so the flavor is locked 727 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 3: in by the quick heat and then cooked through a 728 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 3: little bit more thoroughly but not soggily. I crave that vegetable, 729 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 3: I really do. If it's flavored, well, it's a great 730 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 3: cavalinarian favor. 731 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 2: That's okay. Well, when we we've all give you both, 732 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 2: when you're coming next, Thank 733 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: You, thank you, so welcome, thank you, thank you for 734 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: listening to Ruthy's Table four in partnership with Montclair