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But yeah, he 20 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 5: said a moment of silence because we you know, we said, 21 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 5: like the death. 22 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 4: Of Snapchat definitely. 23 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, Snapchat something I never really was really keen on. 24 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 5: I never really got on the snack. I never got 25 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 5: on the Snapchat, but obviously it became very popular, especially 26 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 5: amongst young people. Instagram kind of took the features a 27 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 5: lot of it, most of it. 28 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 3: So it becomes popular for that alone. Like, well, a 29 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 3: couple of things. Number one was that it had the filters, 30 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 3: Like most people even like that we're on Instagram will 31 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 3: go to Snapchat to get the features, the filters and 32 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 3: put them on their posts. But another thing that they had, 33 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 3: which actually was against them later in the future, is 34 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 3: that the pictures the content was only available for a 35 00:01:58,360 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 3: short period of time. 36 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, twenty four hours and then like disappeared and stuff 37 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 5: like that. So all right, so Snapchat. Before we even 38 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 5: saw talking about Snapchat, we got to go back to 39 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 5: the last episode we talked about Kylie Jenner, So she 40 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 5: plays a major part in Snapchat as well, because about 41 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 5: a year ago, year and a half ago, she had 42 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 5: an issue with Snapchat and she tweeted pretty negative tweet 43 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 5: about Snapchat and that right after she tweeted that, the 44 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 5: stock price dropped six percent. 45 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was their owndoing though, like I think they 46 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 4: had an update. They updated and it changed the design 47 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 4: of change the design. 48 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 5: So she tweets that she's leaving pretty much or she's 49 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 5: not feeling Snapchat anymore, and it's the stock price dropped 50 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 5: six percent the next day. This is crazy, which equals 51 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 5: a one point three billion dollar drop. So she she 52 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 5: dropped the company's value one point three billion dollars in 53 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 5: one day off of one tweet. Pretty powerful. So the 54 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 5: first quarter of twenty eighteen, Snapchat had one hundred and 55 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 5: eighty one million users. Second quarter of twenty eighteen, they 56 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 5: had one hundred and eighty eight million users, So they 57 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 5: were on a steady decline. They had a study that 58 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 5: said forty percent of their staffers were planning to leave. 59 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 5: They have three thousand employees. Forty percent of their staffers 60 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 5: are playing the lead, which is almost half of their employees. 61 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 5: They still haven't made a profit yet. Yeah, they made 62 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 5: They haven't made a profit yet, right, And that's interesting too. 63 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 5: Not to go off topic, but a lot of these 64 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 5: companies that we see are not profitable and have never 65 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 5: been profitable. So if you look at it from like 66 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 5: a small business standpoint, it's like a small business, you 67 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 5: can't run a bakery if you've never made a profit. 68 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 5: But a lot of these multi billion dollar companies have 69 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 5: never made a profit, and they've been in existence for 70 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 5: five years, six years, so it's interesting, like Uber or lyft, 71 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 5: so all right, so, but the interesting thing about it 72 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 5: is that it was looking like the death of Snapchat. Right, 73 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 5: They was looking good at all twenty eighteen, But towards 74 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 5: the end of twenty eighteen they were able to actually 75 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 5: pull themselves together and they're kind of stable. They stopped 76 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 5: losing users. So now people are saying, is this the 77 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 5: rebirth of Snapchat? Kind of like Twitter? Like Twitter was 78 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 5: kind of went through a similar situation where for a 79 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 5: while people kind of thought they were dead and they 80 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 5: had a resurgence and now you know, Twitter is moving 81 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 5: up again. But Snapchat still has a lot of problems. 82 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:38,239 Speaker 5: Though they have a lot of debt. They they still 83 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 5: haven't fully understood how to monetize their system yet because 84 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 5: they're not profitable, and they have their biggest competitor, which 85 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 5: is Facebook. Right, so Facebook, Facebook is interested in the 86 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 5: social media game because we've seen them take over and 87 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 5: like we talked last episode about Amazon, Facebook might be 88 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 5: the Amazon of social media, right, So in twenty and thirteen, 89 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 5: they they offer Snapchat three billion dollars to buy them out. 90 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 4: I think it was like four billion, alright, three to four. 91 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 5: They offered them that amount to buy them out, and 92 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 5: they didn't take the deal. Now, the reason why I 93 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 5: was interested is that the year before that, they paid 94 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 5: one billion for Instagram exact right, and and interesting at 95 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 5: the time they brought Instagram for one billion because I 96 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 5: remember the guy CEO of Instagram at the time, he 97 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 5: was on the cover of Forbes and they was like, 98 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 5: Instagram gets brought and this is the early stages of Instagram. 99 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 5: So obviously they had the vision to offer them one 100 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 5: billion because it's actually a good deal looking at it now. 101 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 5: But everybody was saying, why would you pay one billion 102 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 5: for a company that never made any money? They asked 103 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 5: the CEO, They said, Instagram has never made any money, 104 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 5: and he said, that's not true. We just made a billion. 105 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 4: Dollars, right, So you. 106 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 5: Know, if you look at it from that standpoint, So 107 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 5: they buy Instagram for one billion in twenty twelve, then 108 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 5: they buy WhatsApp for nineteen billion, which is gonna buy 109 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 5: it for the petitors in twenty fourteen. Now, people especially 110 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 5: in the America, I don't think peop will fully understand 111 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 5: the power of WhatsApp. But overseas WhatsApp is huge. Like overseas, 112 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 5: everybody use WhatsApp, not. 113 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 4: Just overseas, like people who have family. 114 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 5: But what I'm saying, if you have, if you're trying to, 115 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 5: because it's free and you know you can. You can 116 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 5: do facetimes, you can do calls, you can do texts. 117 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 5: Pretty much everything you do with a cell phone you 118 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 5: can do through the WhatsApp. So they paid nineteen billion 119 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 5: for WhatsApp. So when they offer Snap three billion, a 120 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 5: lot of people were surprised that Snap turned it down. 121 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 4: Said no, man, say, it's kind of. 122 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 5: Hard to turn down three billion dollars. That's an interesting decision. 123 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 5: But the risk that they run in that is to say, okay, 124 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,239 Speaker 5: either get down or lay down, right like mber Vine 125 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 5: another moment of silence, so Vine people don't even remember 126 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 5: Vine anymore. 127 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, they had the eight second clips. 128 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 5: They had the eight second video clips. That was it. 129 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 3: That was it day Yeah, and so like so like 130 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 3: what happens is like Instagram and Facebook. Really they look 131 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 3: at these features, they said, oh that's really cool. 132 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 4: All right, the next update we're putting it. 133 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 5: On they so, now that was so crazy. Vine Vine 134 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 5: was all over the place. Within two months, Instagram took 135 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 5: them out of business because they had eight second video clips. 136 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 5: Instagram released ten second video I think fifteen first, I 137 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 5: think it was ten. At first they took their It 138 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 5: was disrespectful. It was like for one second more. 139 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 4: Then they took the Snapchat filter. 140 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 5: So no, no, no, I know, but I'm I'm saying that 141 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 5: Vine thing happened within three months and there were no 142 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 5: more Vine great. So then they took Snapchats filters and 143 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 5: the stories and the thing pretty much everything. No apology. Yeah, 144 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 5: and Snapchat has struggled since, right. 145 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 4: You know. But there's an interesting thing also in Snapchat. 146 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 3: In twenty sixteen, they get off with another deal from 147 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 3: this company named Google thirty billion. You know what, they say, no, 148 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 3: say no again, wow, thirty billion. This time Google was like, listen, face, 149 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 3: look is all competitive. They have Instagram. What's that We're 150 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 3: gonna try to We're gonna throw more money at them 151 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 3: and offer them this and again they say no. 152 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 5: Wow, Well there you have it. I mean. The interesting 153 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 5: thing is that the stock ip old a few years 154 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 5: ago at twenty seven dollars. Now it's at nine dollars. 155 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean a couple of things work again. 156 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 3: So like when it started, it was like cool to 157 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 3: have your content disappear, right, But what's happening is that 158 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 3: social media influences, like on Instagram, it actually works for 159 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 3: your benefit now because people can go back in time 160 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 3: and look. 161 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 5: I don't know how you market it on I don't 162 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 5: know how you market yourself on Snapchat because it's it's 163 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 5: such it's so disposable, right, it doesn't stay. 164 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 3: Like, how could somebody look back at what you were 165 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 3: trying to say? 166 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 5: If it's gone, they have challenges. But the stock from 167 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 5: the stocks that go to twenty seven to nine, it's 168 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 5: pretty disturbing. And actually last year they was actually contemplating 169 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 5: taking it off the stock market and making private again, 170 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 5: which hardy ever happened when that happen, Yeah, that hardly 171 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 5: ever happened. So I don't know, man. Sometimes you know, 172 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 5: it's we always talk about not selling and keeping your independence, 173 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 5: and I respect that, but it's a thin line. Sometimes 174 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 5: you have to know when to sell and reinvent yourself, right, 175 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 5: Like it's a couple like Elon Musk is a perfect 176 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 5: example of that, right, So he starts with PayPal. He 177 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 5: sells PayPal I think for like two hundred million dollars. 178 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 5: He flips that into SpaceX in Tesla. Now he's one 179 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 5: of the richest people in the world. He could have 180 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 5: just stayed with PayPal, but who knows if he would 181 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 5: have reached the status that he's at now. Same thing 182 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 5: with Mark Cuban, right, Mark Cuban has I forgot what 183 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 5: his company was called, but it was a sports streaming type. 184 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 4: Of h He was like one of the first guys who. 185 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 5: Video for sports. Yeah, who buys it for a billion 186 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 5: a couple billion. He flips that and he buys the 187 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 5: Mavericks and a lot of other companies, and now he's Mark. 188 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 4: Cuban, So buy more company. 189 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 5: In business, sometimes you have to know. It's like fighting, right, 190 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 5: you gotta know when to walk away. You gotta know 191 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 5: when the fall. 192 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 4: It's like poker, you should what's your analogy on the parties? 193 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 5: You gotta leave nothing. So I used to go clubing 194 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 5: a lot in my younger days. So I mastered the 195 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 5: club scene, and I realized that nothing good happens after 196 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 5: three am. That's when all the fights happened. 197 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 4: When everything settled. 198 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, nothing happens at three four am. Right. You might 199 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 5: leave a party at two and it might have a 200 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 5: half an hour left of good partying, But you had 201 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 5: two and a half hours, right, So the risk of 202 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 5: having a half an hour left is not worth the Well, 203 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 5: the reward of having a half an hour of a 204 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 5: good party is not worth the tremendously bad things have 205 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 5: to happen for that extra half an hour at your stay, 206 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 5: so you have to leave. You have to leave the 207 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 5: party at two am. So this is similar is sometimes 208 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 5: you can stay at the party for too long and 209 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 5: you know, you wake up next day and like, what 210 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 5: did I do? So Snapchat, I don't know. What's an 211 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 5: interesting story. We'll see, we'll follow it. But thirty billion, 212 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 5: I don't know. That's tough. That's tough to turn down. Man, 213 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 5: for a company that's never made any money and it's 214 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 5: not projected to make any money anytime soon. Somebody offers 215 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 5: you thirty billion you've never made a profit. 216 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, difficult. 217 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 3: If somebody's gonna learn from this, hopefully them and then 218 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 3: other companies will learn from it. 219 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 5: Or it'll be a case study hard All right, Well, Snapchat, 220 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 5: we'll see, we'll see what happens with snapchat. 221 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, we're gonna move to a new segment. 222 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 5: Here's a little story that must be toold. 223 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: Listen up, gangsters and honeys with your head done. 224 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 3: The best story tell us stuff now right up myself. 225 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 3: Gray out, its gray down, its gray out, it's gree douts. Right, 226 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 3: we're gonna do this new segment is like you said, 227 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 3: we'd like to go into some case study in some 228 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 3: behind the scenes of sports entertainment that people don't really 229 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 3: know about but probably should, and sometimes it gets swept 230 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 3: under and overlooked. And today we want to talk about 231 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 3: a gentleman named Junior Bridgeman. 232 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 5: Yes, Junior Bridgeman. So, Junior Bridgeman is interesting for a 233 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 5: few different reasons. Right, you probably never heard of him before, 234 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 5: but he was an ex NBA player. He played from 235 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 5: nineteen seventy five to nineteen eighty seven, so he had 236 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 5: a pretty decent career. He played twelve years in the league. Journeyman. 237 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 5: You know, he wasn't a star player, but six men 238 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 5: at best, I think. Yeah. So at that point in time, 239 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 5: NBA players, you know, they weren't making tremendous amounts of 240 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 5: money and good income for that time frame, but nothing. 241 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 5: How we know now one hundred million dollar contract stuff 242 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 5: like that. It wasn't making that. So he actually reached 243 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,599 Speaker 5: his peak salary of three hundred and fifty thousand in 244 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 5: nineteen eighty five. Right, So he's an interested person because 245 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 5: a lot of times we talk about athletes and entertainers 246 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 5: and how they make bad decisions with their money and 247 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 5: they make a lot of money and then when they retire, 248 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 5: they broke, they have to file for bankruptcy. So he 249 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 5: as I said, you know, mid level player. He made 250 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 5: decent money, but not a tremendous amount of money. So 251 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 5: towards the tail end of his career, he starts planning 252 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 5: for his future outside of basketball, right, because he knows 253 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 5: that basketball is only going to last so long and 254 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 5: it's going to run up eventually. 255 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 3: He started starting not schedule in nineteen eighty five, so 256 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 3: he was making three hundred and fifty thousand, but in 257 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 3: the off seasons, he started a job like he was 258 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 3: selling life insurance. 259 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 4: Like most people think, like NBA player, like, what is 260 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 4: he doing? Like he had to earn more income. 261 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, so he starts, so he gets introduced to the 262 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 5: franchise game, right, fast through franchises, and he starts to 263 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 5: study franchises in the off season, and he actually starts 264 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 5: to work at a local Windy's. And this is interesting, right, 265 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 5: So he starts to work at a local Windy's in 266 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 5: the offseason. So at the time, it's kind of a 267 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 5: weird situation because you have an NBA basketball player who's 268 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 5: working in Windy's, right. But he didn't work in Windy's 269 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 5: obviously because he needed the money. He worked in Wendy's 270 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 5: because his plan was to buy a Windy's franchise and 271 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 5: he wanted to learn that in the workings and the 272 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 5: culture of the actual business. So he's figured what better 273 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 5: way to learn about it than to actually work in 274 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 5: the franchise, I think, or something like that. So he 275 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 5: starts to work in Windy's. By Tommy retires, he has 276 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 5: three Windys franchises. Right. In the next fifteen years, he 277 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 5: turns those three Windy's franchises into one hundred and sixty 278 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 5: Windys franchises and also one hundred and twenty Chiles franchises, 279 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 5: So he had one hundred and sixty Windy's franchises, which 280 00:14:55,880 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 5: made him the second largest franchisee holder for Wendy's in 281 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 5: the world, No. In America, in the world. He owned 282 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 5: the second amount, the second largest amount of Windy's in 283 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 5: the world out of anybody. He also brought in another legend, well, 284 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 5: an NBA legend, Chauncey billups to twenty thirteen, two thouand thirteen. 285 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 3: Chauncey's at the tail end of his career but wants 286 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 3: to go into the entrepreneur world and knows about bridgement, 287 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 3: and he says, can you help me? 288 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, So him and Chauncey by thirty Wendy's. 289 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 4: But not just thirty. 290 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 3: So like they buy thirty Wendy's in the Saint Louis area, 291 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 3: which pretty much is every Wendy's in Saint Louis. They 292 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 3: buy in every restaurant in the city of Saint Louis. 293 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 3: That's pretty remarkable. 294 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, So he ends up his last his biggest salary 295 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 5: was still on your fifty thousand, right. He ends up 296 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 5: owning one hundred and sixty Windy's, He one hundred and 297 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 5: twenty Chilis, and he amasses a network for four hundred 298 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 5: million in the process. But that's not the end of 299 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 5: the story. 300 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 3: No story gets better. So we're gonna go from city 301 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 3: Saint Louis. In twenty sixteen, he wants to go bigger, 302 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 3: bigger vision, so you know, he decides that he's gonna 303 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 3: look into Coca Cola, and twenty sixteen he buys a company. 304 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 3: He starts with a company Heartland Coca Cola Bottling, and 305 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 3: that takes over the region of the midwest of Missouri, Kansas, Nebraska, 306 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 3: and he becomes a distributor for Coca Cola in that region, right, 307 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 3: and that gross is even more money. 308 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 4: Okay, story doesn't that in there though. 309 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 3: After that, he partners with a gentleman in Canada to 310 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 3: take over Coca Cola Canada. So he went from Saint 311 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 3: Louis to city to taking over Midwest region of distributing 312 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 3: to taking over the country of Canada's bottling and distributing 313 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 3: for Coca Cola. 314 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 5: So he sells his win these franchises, right and buys 315 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 5: Coca Cola distribution centers right in Canada, well in the Midwest. 316 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 4: I think he has eighteen in Missouri, Kansas, Nebraska. 317 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 3: And then from there he takes over the entire distribution 318 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 3: facilities for Canada, which is crazy. And then right now 319 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 3: like present day, I think he's in talk he might 320 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 3: be the front runner to buy Sports Illustrated, Like it's 321 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 3: off his heal. I think he him and Dan Gilbert, 322 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 3: who is the owner of the Cleveland Paths, are like 323 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 3: the finalists to buy the company. And he's leading Canada 324 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 3: to buy Sports Illustrated, a magazine he probably hasn't been 325 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 3: in but since maybe the eighties. 326 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 5: So okay. So I heard Dane Dadd say something a 327 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 5: few weeks ago. He said, y'all, y'all sell records. I 328 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 5: sell companies, right, And that's kind of what we spoke 329 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 5: about even with Snapchat as far as a lot of 330 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 5: times in business, part of business is building a legacy, 331 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 5: building a company and keeping it. But another part of 332 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 5: it is building it and selling it and then moving 333 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 5: on to the next thing. Right. So that's pretty much 334 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 5: what he did. What he's doing, right, He's constantly moving 335 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 5: up the ladder by leveraging his businesses. He's building businesses 336 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 5: and then he's selling businesses. And another thing, it's interesting 337 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 5: a boy his stories. A lot of time people, you know, 338 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 5: they ask how do you become an entrepreneur? How do 339 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 5: you start a business? You don't always necessarily have to 340 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 5: start a business to be a business owner or to 341 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 5: be an entrepreneur. Right, So he's an entrepreneur, he's a 342 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 5: business owner, but it's not he doesn't own Wendy's, but 343 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 5: he owns He owned a lot of them. He owns, 344 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 5: you know, Coca Cola in a sense by owning different 345 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 5: centers and distribution. It's not his company, but that's another 346 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 5: way to go about it as well. Franchise's owning franchises. 347 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 5: You know, lebron owns some Blaze pizzas. So we've seen 348 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 5: this play before and that's one of the good things 349 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 5: with you know, buying into an established business already is 350 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 5: that you're not reinventing the wheel, right. They have a 351 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 5: set formula in place, So that's another avenue, you know, 352 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 5: if somebody is looking to get into business but they 353 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 5: don't necessarily want to start everything from the ground up. 354 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 5: It's good exactly and like he's. 355 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 4: Like it's a play on words, but like hes. 356 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 3: This episode is brought to you by P and C Bank. 357 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 3: A lot of people think podcasts about work are boring, 358 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 3: and sure they definitely can be, but understanding a professionals 359 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 3: routine shows us how they achieve their success little by little, 360 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 3: day after day. 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That was Wings in his cillar, right, and he's 430 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 5: not you know, he could have opened his own restaurant, 431 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 5: but he chose to go with an established line that 432 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 5: he believed in that he already was eating on a 433 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 5: regular fasis and it's not wrong with that. A lot 434 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 5: of times, you know, we look at it like if 435 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 5: it's not one hundred percent something that we started ourselves, 436 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,959 Speaker 5: we have to get out of that mindset, because collaboration 437 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 5: works in a lot of different ways, right, So you 438 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 5: can collaborate with somebody you know, or you can collaborate 439 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 5: with somebody that you don't know, But if it's mutually beneficial, 440 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 5: that's what business comes down to. So you don't have 441 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 5: to do everything yourself. And we could break that down 442 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 5: on a micro level as far as just you know, 443 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 5: having business partners or you know, a lot of times 444 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 5: you feel like you have to do every single thing yourself, 445 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 5: or you have to have a complete control of the situation, 446 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 5: and that's not always beneficial. You know, you can learn 447 00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 5: from other people's success and you can duplicate their success. 448 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 5: There's nothing new under the sun. So it's important not 449 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 5: to feel ashamed or embarrassed if you're not actually starting 450 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 5: the idea yourself, because it can still be successful. You 451 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 5: can still make a lot of money, you can still 452 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 5: employ people, you can still be beneficial and do good things. 453 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 3: And there's valuable lessons like when he originally started doing 454 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 3: the Windy's and working and their customers were coming in 455 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 3: and laughing like this is an NBA player, this is 456 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 3: what hes succumbed to, but not realizing like his vision 457 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 3: is long term, like I'm gonna turn. 458 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 4: This and now you're in the store that I own. 459 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 5: How many of his people that he was playing with 460 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 5: on the off season was going out partying, blowing their 461 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 5: money and probably laughing at him as well, right and 462 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 5: now looking so the league gratification is another another thing 463 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 5: as well. 464 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 3: They're probably drinking the products that he's bowing, which is 465 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 3: that's kind of crazy man. 466 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 5: All right, Okay, so yeah, that's that's that's interesting. That's 467 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 5: an interesting examined nation of an entrepreneur. So we want 468 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 5: to jump into the political realm a little bit. 469 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, we had an interest in a few weeks and 470 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 3: one in particular, Cory Booker has announced that he's running 471 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 3: for president. 472 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 4: For those who are not familiar, Correy Booker was the 473 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 4: mayor of the city of Newark. 474 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 3: He is now a senator in New Jersey and he 475 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 3: has fought for criminal justice reform, he's fought for housing reform, 476 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 3: and he's had some some pretty interesting ideas, and we're 477 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 3: gonna touch on one of those ideas. 478 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 5: Corey Brooker is interesting for a few different reasons. But 479 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 5: you know, he used to live in the projects when 480 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 5: he was the mayor of Newark by choice for like 481 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 5: a year. 482 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, by choice, Yeah. 483 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, if anybody like he has an interesting story on 484 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 3: If anybody's ever watched Netflix Explain the Racial Wealth Gap, 485 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:47,959 Speaker 3: I think it is the last episode of season one, 486 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 3: and he tells a story about how his family came 487 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 3: into wealth and. 488 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 4: The importance of owning homes, which is why he fights 489 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 4: for it. But by choice, he. 490 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 5: And one of the worst projects, yeah Newark, in Newark, 491 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 5: and he lived there for a year, so some people 492 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 5: called it a gimmick, but he still live. 493 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 3: There, like right now, he said he lives in a 494 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 3: basement in d C. Like, yeah, he owns a home 495 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 3: in Newark, but he's humbled themselfing like listen, man, I 496 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 3: have a landlord in DC. 497 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 4: Like that's just how I'm living right now. I'm a 498 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 4: single man. 499 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 5: Remember when Mark Zuckerberg gave Newark one hundred million dollars 500 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 5: for the school district? Whatever? What happened with that? 501 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 4: Who's the man? 502 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 5: Baraka? Now? 503 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 3: I think that you know what they they they did invested, 504 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 3: they had new it was for education, right, yeah, yeah, 505 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 3: they built some some some some pretty decent academies in Newark, 506 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 3: and he was on the Breads Club speaking about some 507 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 3: of the growth they've seen, okay with these students, So we. 508 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 4: Can't just dismiss I was just wondering what happened. But 509 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 4: it was Devin and Christie at the time. Yeah, Chris, okay, Yeah, but. 510 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 5: No, I wasn't dismissing it. I was just I just 511 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 5: I didn't hear anything since that had happened. I think 512 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 5: it happened on Oprah. But yeah, So Corey buckets into 513 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 5: for a few different reasons. But one of the things 514 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 5: that so okay, he announced that he's running for president, right, 515 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 5: so you know, when you announce your running for president anything, 516 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 5: you start to say different things that you want to do, 517 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 5: you want to implement stuff like that which you're running 518 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 5: on your platform. So we talked about the racial wealth 519 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 5: gap in this country and how disturbing it is, right 520 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 5: I think, on episode two. So now it's interesting to 521 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 5: see because some of the candidates are proposing different ways 522 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 5: to kind of bridge that right into to lesson that 523 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 5: the racial wealth gap. So he has an interesting idea, 524 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 5: and his idea is for baby bonds, so he wants 525 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 5: every baby so right now, right now, we talked about 526 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 5: the racial wealth gap for adult families, right and all 527 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 5: the top of my head, I think it was like 528 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 5: the average black family has a net worth of seventeen 529 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 5: hundred and the average white family has a networth of 530 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 5: one hundred in sixteen thousand. 531 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 3: Well, he was on the Breakfast Club, I think maybe 532 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 3: like this week, and he went further on to that 533 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 3: Bostonian article we were talking about where the average white 534 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 3: family in Boston is a network the worth is two 535 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 3: undred and fifty thousand. 536 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 4: And the average black family is eight. 537 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 5: Dollars in Boston in Boston, eight dollars, eight dollars yep, yes, 538 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 5: eight dollars, ladies and gentlemen. 539 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, let that sit in for two seconds. 540 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 5: So all right, so he had even So now was 541 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 5: even interesting when I was reading an article that he's 542 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 5: proposing the baby bonds. That so the wealth the networth 543 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 5: for young people. So eighteen to twenty five, the average 544 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 5: white person's networth is forty six thousand dollars, and the 545 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 5: networth for young people eighteen to twenty five, average black 546 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 5: person's networth is twenty nine hundred dollars. 547 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, we spoke about networth. 548 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 5: No, we did speak about it, but we spoke about 549 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 5: it for families, but not. So it's actually that's actually 550 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 5: shocking to me because I don't I knew very few 551 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 5: people twenty five and under that had networths of forty 552 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 5: six thousand dollars. 553 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 4: No, I didn't either. 554 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 5: So but this and that's the average network for a 555 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 5: white person eighteen to twenty five. So what happens is 556 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,719 Speaker 5: that the white person's networth families, it actually increases right 557 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 5: as they get older. But the black if you notice, 558 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 5: the black network actually decreases because the black family's networth 559 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 5: is seventeen hundred. But the average black young person's networth 560 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 5: is twenty nine hundred, so it actually goes down, so 561 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 5: it gets worse as you get older. 562 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 3: This is one thing that we know about wealth, that 563 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 3: is it's going to be true. Wealth grows and grows 564 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 3: and grows. Right, being rich, you could make some mistakes 565 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 3: and that they'll take you out of that carriage, but 566 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 3: wealth will continue to grow. 567 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 4: Right. 568 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 5: So what he wants to do is have a thousand 569 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 5: dollars baby bonds, So every baby that's born into America, 570 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 5: every single baby, gets one thousand dollars on the born right, 571 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 5: and then it's depending on your income. So if your 572 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 5: family makes under one hundred, if your family makes under 573 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 5: one hundred and twenty six thousand dollars a year, you 574 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 5: will get up to two thousand dollars added to that 575 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,479 Speaker 5: bond every year until the child turns eighteen. 576 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 3: It's so the account is a savings account that's going 577 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 3: to be managed by the treasury. 578 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 5: Right treasures earning three percent? 579 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're right, so like they project if it 580 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 3: does three percent, but it's so if at that rate, 581 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 3: if somebody's family income up is over one hundred and 582 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 3: twenty five, they don't get anything. 583 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 5: No, that's what saying, Yeah, no, you get a thousand 584 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 5: dollars and you're born. When you're born, right after that, 585 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 5: you don't get anything, right exactly, And even the two 586 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 5: thousand dollars is the most that you can get. Yeah, 587 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 5: So it's like a sliding scale. So if you make 588 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 5: one hundred thousand, then you might get five hundred dollars, right, 589 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 5: but if you're below the poverty line, then the most 590 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 5: you can get is two thousand. The child's the. 591 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 3: Federal poverty line, I believe it's twenty five thousand. It's 592 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 3: like that family, that family afford that they stay at 593 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 3: that rate. By the time the child has gotten to eighteen, 594 00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 3: then I think it's like forty. 595 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,959 Speaker 5: So what happens is that? So right? So, right now, 596 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 5: the wealth gap between young people whites and blacks, it's 597 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 5: sixteen times. So young people have sixteen times the net 598 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 5: worth of black young people. So what this new proposal 599 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 5: will do will actually lessen that to one to four. 600 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 5: So it's still not equal, but it'll have the average 601 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 5: white person's networth will be seventy niney eighteen to twenty five, 602 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 5: and the average black person's network eighteen to twenty five 603 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 5: will be fifty seven thousand. So what they're saying is 604 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 5: that this can actually change the course of the wealth 605 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 5: gap and almost erase it within a generation. Right. The 606 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 5: thing about it too is that so people actually talk 607 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 5: about reparations, So this it plays in line with reparations, 608 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 5: because it's been proven that the easiest way to do 609 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 5: it would be through reparation. Right, reparations is to give 610 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 5: Black people, give Spanish people, just give them money, right, 611 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 5: But obviously politically that's very hard to get through. 612 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:11,479 Speaker 4: Right. 613 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 5: So this is a way of reparations. But it's not 614 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 5: race based, right, because everybody is for everybody, But since 615 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 5: proportionally Black and Latino families are more impovished than white families, 616 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 5: even though it's for everybody, it will proportionally affect Black 617 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 5: and Latino families at a higher rate. 618 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 3: It's like when he did prison reform, right, Like he 619 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 3: changes laws for imprisonment, right, and it's for everybody, but 620 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 3: it proportionally helps people of color because they're the ones 621 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 3: who suffer more. 622 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 5: Right. So this is an interesting take on the reparations 623 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 5: argument because, as I said, it's not something that you're 624 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 5: just giving to one group of people. You're actually giving 625 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 5: it to everybody. But it's going to affect one or 626 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 5: two groups of people a lot more. Now, the thing 627 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 5: about it is that it's only going to be for 628 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 5: young people, for people that. 629 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 4: Are born right now, they're still trying to right now. 630 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, so it won't affect like adults or even you know, 631 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 5: teenagers or whatever. It'll be. So you'll have to wait 632 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 5: a generation before they actually see the effects of it. 633 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 5: And another interesting thing is to see, you know, education. 634 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 5: That thing has to be tied into it as well, 635 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 5: because okay, it's great to have I think the idea 636 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 5: is a good idea. But if somebody turns eighteen and 637 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 5: they have forty thousand dollars and now they have access 638 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 5: to that, right, we don't want them just to spend it. 639 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 4: So that's one of the things. So, like we's explained, 640 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 4: it's a four step program. 641 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 3: So we pretty much explained the first three steps or 642 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 3: step one was you get there thousand dollars. 643 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 4: The Treasury takes it into your account. 644 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 3: Step two is through the tax code, children will receive 645 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 3: two thousand based on the income of the family. Third 646 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 3: one is the fund sits there in account three percent 647 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 3: hopefully annually. And that fourth step is that the account 648 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 3: holder can't access it until they're eighteen, and it has. 649 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 4: To be for a usable reason. 650 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 3: It has to be for education, or it has to 651 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 3: be for the purchase of a home, or if they 652 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 3: keep it there, it could be for retirement later on. 653 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 4: So they have to have specific reasons why they're taking off. 654 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 5: They just they just can't take it off take it out. 655 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think, I mean, I think it's a 656 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,399 Speaker 3: great idea, But this is this is not the first 657 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 3: time we've seen an idea like this. 658 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 4: No. Hillary Clinton, she tried it and then like as 659 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 4: soon as her campaign got. 660 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 5: No, it was like, let's little known fact, Hillary Clint 661 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 5: in two thousand and five, I think two thousand seven, 662 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 5: I think when she was running the first time. 663 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, she that was proposal. 664 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:43,240 Speaker 5: No, it was and they quickly scrapped it quickly. 665 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 4: Tony Blair tried this and. 666 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 5: Tony Blair actually implemented. 667 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 4: It, and yes, as soon as he left office, scrapped done. 668 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 5: With Conservative Party. Okay, so the UK. Tony Blair was 669 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 5: the Prime Minister of the UK. So reparate. When we 670 00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 5: talk about reparations, this isn't something that a lot of 671 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 5: times people don't fully understand the concept of reparations, right, 672 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 5: other people have been given reparations, right, We've seen We've 673 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 5: seen Japanese Americans get reparations from Ronald Reagan. We've seen 674 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 5: Jewish people get reparations from the Holocaust. It's something that 675 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 5: politically is not as far fetched as it's made out 676 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 5: to be. Right, and people realize that, as I said before, 677 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 5: the racial wealth gap is something that if anybody's intelligent, 678 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 5: they understand that that is it's a problem, and it's 679 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 5: not something that just affects only black people. It spills over. 680 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 5: So it's in everybody's interest to try to fix the problem. 681 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 5: And this is a worldwide problem. So when Tony Blair 682 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 5: implements it in Britain and then the Conservative Party comes 683 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 5: and they just eliminate it because they say, now it's 684 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 5: like welfare and you're giving you know, poor people just 685 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 5: you know that that's something that is done out of ignorance, right, 686 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 5: Because if the goal is to actually make up for 687 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 5: things that were done in the past that have systematically 688 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 5: hold people that, then the only way to really reverse 689 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,760 Speaker 5: that is to have a systematic thing put in place 690 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 5: to help those people. It's not out of charity, it's 691 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 5: just the right thing to do, right, So Yeah, so 692 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 5: we have seen this before and it's not as far 693 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 5: af fetched as people think because it was put in 694 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 5: place in the UK even though it was reversed, and 695 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 5: Hillary Clinton, who had a very good chance of actually 696 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:43,280 Speaker 5: becoming president, had it as one of her campaign points, 697 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 5: even though she quickly scratched it. So we'll see where 698 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 5: this reparation argument goes. Because there's another candidate. I believe 699 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 5: that she wants to actually do reparations different So everybody 700 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 5: has different ways about it how they want to do it. 701 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 5: But I think the baby by ideas interesting at least 702 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 5: it is interesting. 703 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 3: Because it it really is about equity, right, So everybody 704 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 3: starts at the playing field, and as you'll see it, 705 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 3: like the people who needed more will. 706 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 5: Be so that the argument will be like who, how 707 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,359 Speaker 5: do you pay for it? Where's the money coming from? 708 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,839 Speaker 5: The right, that would be the argument, because I mean, 709 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 5: I don't think anybody would be opposed to people, you know, 710 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 5: babies getting money, But where's this money coming. That's a 711 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,320 Speaker 5: lot of money. You get every baby a thousand dollars. 712 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 4: And then it'll come into it. 713 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 3: Well, if their parents aren't citizens, is that how do 714 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 3: they get to There's a lot of issues there. 715 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 5: It's a lot of issues that can be raised. 716 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 4: But the idea, I think it's great. 717 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,359 Speaker 5: No, it's a great idea on surface. So we'll see. 718 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:47,359 Speaker 5: Like I said, the political environment is very interesting right now. 719 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 5: You know a lot of people are running for president 720 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 5: that are announcing that they're running for president. We have 721 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 5: a black female and announced. We have Corey Bookers, black 722 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 5: male that announced, and you know, I'm sure as the 723 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 5: weeks some fall, we'll be having more and more people 724 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,760 Speaker 5: from the Democratic Party and Independent Party that will announced 725 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 5: that their run for president. Then of course you have 726 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 5: the current president, Donald Trump, who I'm pretty sure he 727 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 5: will be seeking re election, so we'll be it'll be 728 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 5: interesting to see. But economic definitely plays a major part 729 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 5: in the political game. So that's the thing too. We 730 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 5: can't separate the two right. A lot of times people 731 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,319 Speaker 5: you know, we say, okay, well I'm not voting. If 732 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,280 Speaker 5: you decide to vote or not, that's your personal decision. 733 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 5: But we can't just say I just want to focus 734 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 5: on economics and not politics, or I want to focus 735 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 5: on politics and not economics. They go hand in hand 736 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 5: economic empowerment, it is political empowerment. You can't you can't 737 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 5: separate the too. All right, okay, final words. 738 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we spoke about Corey Booker and what he's 739 00:38:53,160 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 3: done for obviously the school to prison pipeline system, racism 740 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 3: when it comes to terms of imprisonment, and in immigration, 741 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,399 Speaker 3: and what we've seen in the past couple of weeks, 742 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,720 Speaker 3: maybe last week, we saw Meek Mill and Michael Rubin 743 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 3: and Robert Craft and Jay Z create reform, which is 744 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 3: great for criminal justice, and within that week we also 745 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 3: see a young black male be picked up by Ice 746 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 3: for immigration, and it'll be interesting to see how this 747 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 3: plays out. But I know that, you know, they're putting 748 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 3: some support behind him, twenty one Savage, so we'll see 749 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 3: that maybe you know, this case may spark some immigration reform, 750 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 3: so they'll be interesting to see. So, I mean, it's 751 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 3: unfortunate that this happened. I know, he has a family 752 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 3: three about three kids, and he's I think he filed. 753 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 4: For citizenship and saying like four years. So I'm it's 754 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 4: just unfortunate. 755 00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 3: So hopefully, you know, reform started the criminal justice and 756 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 3: hopefully we'll see something that happens to immigration as well. 757 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, we'll see, we'll see. All right, all right, guys, 758 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 5: So once again, thank you for rocking with us. We 759 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 5: will see you guys next week. Yeah man peace. 760 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, we give you the game. 761 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 3: Now you gotta go out to your neighborhood and give 762 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 3: it right back. 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