1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. Welcome back to WWF Wrestling with Freddy. 2 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for listening so far. And uh, 3 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: I'm really excited to introduce this guest because I never 4 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,159 Speaker 1: had the pleasure of working with him. I left the 5 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: company before he came in. And uh, now it's time 6 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: to start the show. Now, stuffing up for the mic. 7 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: The host of Wrestling with Freddie Freddie Prince June. Yeah, 8 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: so everyone, please welcome the awesome, the fantastic, by my command, 9 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: the next King of the Ring, Mr Xavier Woods. How 10 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: are you, sir, I'm fantastic. Thank you for that incredible introduction. 11 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: Oh that's too kind, You're too kind. No, I'll telling 12 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: you the only other American besides Harley Race and Jerry 13 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: Lawler that I think would look good in a crown. Otherwise, 14 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: as we all looked like John Goodman and King Ralph, 15 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: and it looked great. And then he even rejected it 16 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: at the end, you know what I mean, he knew 17 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: it didn't look good. You know, it didn't look good. 18 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: It looks great now though. Um, thanks for coming out 19 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: to Los Angeles, man, dude. Of course, we haven't had 20 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: a chance to actually sit and hang out and chatting 21 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: such a long time. I haven't gotten to see you 22 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: in the flesh since I was your dungeon master. I 23 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: think that was the last time, um. And we had 24 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: a ton of fun and we can even talk nerdy 25 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: stuff if if you want. But before we get into that, UM, 26 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: we kind of met. Like I said, you, you didn't. 27 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: You weren't at the company when I worked there, and 28 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: so we kind of met because I became a fan 29 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: of yours and I still watched wrestling to this day, 30 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: and I still watched when I left, and I watched 31 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: this dude and I wasn't educated on t n A. 32 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: I watched this dude come in that was you, and 33 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: you had a backstage segment and I think the first 34 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: one was with Kofi, and then after that it was 35 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: Big Ee and it was this young, brash, good look 36 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: and wrestler. I'm blowing smoke, but this is what this 37 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: is what came through. And I remember sitting there going 38 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: who is this and what are they trying to do? 39 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: And you, Kofe and Biggie formed a faction, which is 40 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: very difficult to get over with fans, let alone within 41 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: the company. It's differ It's difficult um, And when you 42 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: guys came out, I heard some of the strongest booze 43 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: that I had ever heard a tag team received, and 44 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: they started screaming to the changed from booze to full 45 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: curt angle hate where it was New Day Sucks was 46 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: a part of it, and I remember going, man, but 47 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: you're committed though, and you guys did something crazy and 48 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: it doesn't happen often. Man. In fact, it's hard for 49 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: me to find another time that it has worked in 50 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: the last twenty five years. You guys went from Bood 51 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: two over in a way that I haven't seen and 52 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: I don't know how long, and it went from New 53 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: Day Sucks to New Day Rocks, and you guys are 54 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: using trombones and now then I watched it years later 55 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: and you're in these like bamboo beat down matches with 56 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 1: the USO's and stealing the show and the crowd goes 57 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: crazy for you guys everywhere you go. How the hell 58 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: did you do this? Uh? I don't know. You see 59 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's you're first off, you're you're beyond kind, 60 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: You're this I don't know, it's it's it's a weird process. 61 00:03:54,440 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: It's a weird journey because I'm trying to figure out 62 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: how to say this. It's like, I don't know a 63 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: stand up comic who's been hated and then love And 64 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: that's the closest thing to wrestling that I can put 65 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: in show business. I feel like the reason that happened 66 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: is because regardless of like what the three of us 67 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: are doing, we have, uh, this this this unreal chemistry 68 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: together where like it's like that we can finish each 69 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: other's sometimes. It's like that type of stuff, but it's 70 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,559 Speaker 1: on a different it's like a different comedic timing level. 71 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: It's not just like we're friends. It's almost like we 72 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: have the same style of of dropping jokes, of timing 73 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: on those jokes, of the weird pop culture references of 74 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: those jokes. UM for instance, So, uh, we're at waffle house. 75 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: Its Kofe myself. It's always of course it's a waffle Yeah, 76 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: because it's the only thing that's opened after a show. Okay, 77 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: so we gotta got the late night breakfast places. Uh, 78 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: and someone came up and they said they said someone's 79 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: name was the last name was Houser, and Kofe and 80 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: I immediately both went doogie. I went to high school 81 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: with him. I'm not joking, Doogie Houser I got. I 82 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: got suspended my senior year for sticking up for Neil 83 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: against Rob Bone. He was he was this guy in 84 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: my school. He talked smack about about Neil and said 85 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: stuff that I didn't like. And Neil was the reason 86 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,799 Speaker 1: I started drama because I saw him do a deadly 87 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: more impression like the day you choose electives, and I 88 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna do that, and I still can't 89 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: do a good one. Um. But he spoke out the 90 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: side of his face and he got hit and he 91 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: played football. I didn't, So I got suspended. But yeah, 92 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: so shout out Dougie Houser, shout out the goat man. 93 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: So this guy's name is Houser. You guys both just 94 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: constantly say and people are like, how did how did 95 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: you both come to do? That's how you guys interact 96 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: in the ring though, Yeah, that's how you guys would 97 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: do whatever, like whatever group or person you guys were 98 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: going against, when you guys would talk trash on him, 99 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: it was always. But that's why that's again, that's why 100 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: it works. There's that chemistry of like anything that I 101 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: say they will laugh anything that they say. I will laugh. Like, 102 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: so no matter what we say, whether they're bad jokes 103 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: or things that are just ridiculous, Like, as long as 104 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: we're laughing and having a good time, someone's like these guys, 105 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: it's not you can't. It's hard to hate when people 106 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: are just like having a good So this is a 107 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: high level thing. So Larry David has a similar philosophy. 108 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: He says, when you have confidence in yourself and in 109 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: your jokes, there are no bad jokes. There's only bad audiences. 110 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: And so he'll turn it on even more if he 111 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: knows it's bothering you, just to drive that point home, 112 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,119 Speaker 1: to the point where he got his own TV show 113 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: and everyone fell in love with what is in essence 114 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: a horrible person. Yes, and when you guys were heels, 115 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: you were pulling this off, and it was I don't 116 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: want to call you guys unicorns because you guys actually 117 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: came out with unicorn horns. Very good reason for that. 118 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: But it's you know, it's probably dirty, is it not? Okay, 119 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: I was in rat I'm just kidding, you know. Uh 120 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: So my girlfriend in high school, she would always talk 121 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,239 Speaker 1: about this movie, The Last Unicorn watching this whatever. Finally 122 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: we sit down and I watched and I'm like, this 123 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: is the most amazing animated film I've ever seen. So 124 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: the whole, the whole, I know, I know, the whole 125 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: idea of the movie is that this is the last 126 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: Unicorn and magic is almost gone because there's only one 127 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: Unicorn left. Unicorns are the ones who bring magic, and 128 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: so in my head, we came up with this thing 129 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: that we brought magic back to wrestling, and we're like, 130 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: so we're unicorns. That that's what my brain did. And 131 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: so we set in a promo once and it was 132 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: hilarious to us, and so then we started coming out 133 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: with our fingers on our heads to us people listening, like, 134 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: if you're insecure about your art, what he just said, 135 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: it was funny to us. It was funny to us. 136 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: That's we'll talk about that later. I'm sorry we're interrupting that. 137 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: That's like hugely important points. So there's a clip that 138 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: just recently saw. Older clip. It's Kevin Nash and he's 139 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: talking to somebody and he's explaining. He says, like, screw 140 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: those twenty people in the arena. Anything that I'm saying 141 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: on a microphone is for me and maybe seven people 142 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: in the back and that's about it. And I was like, 143 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: I sent it to the guys. I was like, this 144 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: is us, Like we're legitimately just trying to make each 145 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: other laugh. But that that type of fun, it's something 146 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: that you want to be a part of. Like if 147 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: I see a group of people and they're laughing at something, 148 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: even if I didn't think it was funny at first, 149 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, but they're having a really good time, you 150 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 1: know what. And the point, the point of our existence again, 151 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a little existential because I'm in that 152 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: zone um is to have fun. I don't know what 153 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 1: this life is. I don't know if there's a point. 154 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a meaning. So what should 155 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: I do in order to to to to get the 156 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 1: most out of this, Well, I should enjoy it as 157 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: much as possible. And if I can do something that 158 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: then translates into other people enjoying their experience here as well. 159 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 1: Because we could all this could all blow up tomorrow, 160 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: comment might hit like dinosaurs. We might be better not. 161 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: I got big plans, I know, right, I know, but 162 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: that's that's the thing that makes me believe do what 163 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: is going to make you smile, do what's going to 164 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: make you happy, and that in turn is going to 165 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: hopefully extend to other people and make them happy. And 166 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: so you're talking about people hating us, it's because we 167 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: fully committed to that. Just said like it's the power positivity. 168 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: And at first you hear it, and it's like even 169 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: us when we heard it, we're like, we're gonna be like, 170 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: it's like a choir thing gospel. This is not what 171 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: we we're thinking about when we brought all this to you. 172 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: But fine, and so we thought we got the ball. 173 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: So we have to fully commit. And there's there's been 174 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: situations where people think like a man, I got this 175 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 1: thing thrown at me. You know whatever, this this sucks, 176 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna try to get a change. It's like, well, 177 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: this is our shot. In my head, there's like this 178 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: is my last shot. I wasn't in a good place 179 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: like before this. This is the best that I felt 180 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: in wrestling is with these two guys, and I really 181 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: believe that we have something. And so it's like we 182 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: have to fully commit to this because this is what 183 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: we wanted. So when we did that, everybody got so 184 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: upset because it is so corny at this point in 185 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 1: time to try to be positive, which is such a 186 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: weird thing to say, right of course, but it makes 187 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: people because they were still coming off like the John 188 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: Cena days where it felt forced upon them. But you 189 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: guys were almost a heel doing it as opposed to 190 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: the baby face doing it, so they were allowed to 191 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 1: be It was a different kind of hate and I'm 192 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 1: still trying to figure out how it changed to love it. 193 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: It's because we we gave them exactly what we were 194 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: so it became we don't like this because this is ridiculous. 195 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: And then when we fully committed, it became, you know what, 196 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: if they're going to play the game, we'll play the 197 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: game with him. We'll see, we'll see where this goes. 198 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: Because people understand cheering is good, booing is good, Silence 199 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: is bad. And I think that people understood that and 200 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: they saw these are three guys who are trying to 201 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: make the best out of what they're handed. And I 202 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: think that's even if it's not in the foreground, like 203 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 1: it's in your in the stunches back of your mind, 204 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: you understand what you're doing, you understand what you're watching. 205 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 1: Your understanding what your interactions mean to someone, and when 206 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: you see someone committed to the work, it makes it 207 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: very easy to watch. I remember when I would teach 208 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: their promo class um, I showed them the scene from 209 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: Liar Liar where Jim Carrey is trying to write the 210 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: word read and because his son made a wish for 211 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: his dad not to be able to tell alive for 212 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: a whole day, he can't do it, and he writes 213 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: the word blue and he's like, nor write it, and 214 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, his hand gets angry at him 215 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: and it attacks him, and he's like, no, you're gonna 216 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: write it or I'll break it off. And it's so 217 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: over the top and ridiculous that if he didn't commit 218 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: a cent to that, that's the worst scene in the 219 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: history of film. Instead, you can't take your eyes off it. 220 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: And as ridiculous as it is, when his arm starts 221 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: the wing chicken wing things, he has everybody captured in this. 222 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: And then at the end of the scene he comes 223 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: up and his face is covered with the word blue 224 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: and it's like the goddamn and I'm looking at everybody 225 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: and I'm trying to tell them. I would also play 226 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: them stand up because I compare the two art forms 227 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: that it's as close as I can make a comparison 228 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: to because it's not like the movie business at all. 229 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 1: And I learned that very quick when all my promos 230 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: would get rejected because they were like eight minutes long. 231 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: But when I watched you guys turned face, so to speak. 232 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: And for people that aren't wrestling fans who are just 233 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: like listening for the stories, when you go from a 234 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: good guy or a bad guy to a good guy, 235 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: they say, you're turning face because your baby face now 236 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: and everybody's gonna love you. Um, you guys made this turn, 237 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: and you have this life outside of wrestling, as does KOFE, 238 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: as does E that you guys are very very public about, 239 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 1: and you bring a lot of yourselves into these w 240 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: w E characters in a time where that was done 241 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: because if we back up, when I was a kid, 242 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: everything was real. These were sporting contests, they were fights. 243 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: It was like I'll leave versus Holmes. And then after Montreal, 244 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: everything kind of got flipped on its head and all 245 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: of a sudden there was this argument of well, it's 246 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: this much real and this much but back in the 247 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: old days, you weren't necessarily doctor death, you know what 248 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: I mean, Like, but you had to live that gimmick 249 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: because if you were a bad guy signing autographs in 250 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: the back, how bad a guy are you? Right? And 251 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: then after the screw job happened, all that went away 252 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: and people were like, yeah, man, it's just to show. 253 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 1: It's just characters. You especially, but KOFE and and E 254 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 1: as well have found what I find to be this 255 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: sort of beautiful hybrid where you've literally really brought back 256 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: living the gimmick, which should make the old heads happy. 257 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: And if you're not, just listen and think about that 258 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: for a second. You're living the gimmick. You got yourself 259 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: over first, then got the gimmick over and it's almost 260 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: like old school wrestling all over again, but the real 261 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: mtvs Real World Season one version of it. It's so 262 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: crazy to me and you're literally it's almost like watching 263 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: old school wrestling again but through a contemporary lens. Because 264 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: young people freaking love you, guys. They love you guys. 265 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: They may be watching the Internet all the time and 266 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: don't know about cable TV, but they love you guys, 267 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: and they watch you and they follow y'all on social media. 268 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: And you're so interactive with them, whereas a lot of 269 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: the older heads just aren't, or if they are, they're 270 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: just complaining, you know what I mean, Like you don't 271 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: get it, you don't get it, and it's like, well, 272 00:14:55,000 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: you both don't get it, but you guys have this 273 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: crazy attitude of like, hey, if I don't get that, 274 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: get me hip to it. And and it's I've seen 275 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: it since the first segment I watched you do is 276 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: the same way you've been in gaming, in cosplay conventions, 277 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: in playing the bass in which I'm sure you'll be 278 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: doing in WrestleMania one day, doing to your own theme music. 279 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: I mean, my my friend is gonna jump pretty quick. 280 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: So man, pretty nasty on it what you guys have done. 281 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: I mean, am I crazy? Is this just me overthinking it? 282 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: Or do you see yourself as like, yo, it's not 283 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: even a gimmick. It's I'm living this and this is 284 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: me and I just found a way to make it work. 285 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: I think, I think the biggest part of it. So uh, 286 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: I guess it to go back to let's say developmental. 287 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: So like STW we have promo days and you can 288 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: come as whatever character or whatever thing kind of whatever 289 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: promo you want for me. It became the thing of 290 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: all right, I'm not you know six. This is like 291 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: my with my script since I was little, has has 292 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: been like I'm not gonna be six to I'm not 293 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: gonna be like two or fifty pounds, Like I gotta 294 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: figure out, like what can I do to to the 295 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: rise to? You know? Yeah, but like that's why I 296 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: learned how to play trump bon because I was like, okay, 297 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: maybe if I have an instrument, you know something, they're 298 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: wrestling made you want to learn it. Wrestling made me 299 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: literally do everything that I've done in my life. I 300 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: played sports for every semester and every term whatever because 301 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: in my head I had to be an athlete all 302 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: year long because I had to get ready bigger. You 303 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: were a band nerd who got buff and wanted to wrestle, 304 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: I'm not even playing. No. Started in seventh grade, So 305 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: I started wrestling because I wanted to wrestle. Obviously I 306 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: tried football prior, like when I was in elementary school, 307 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: but it was we played poundball in Georgia, so you're 308 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: you're on a team based how much you weigh, and 309 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: me and my best friend were real fat kids. So 310 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: we were playing like thirteen year old and we were 311 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 1: like nine and it just did not work. So I 312 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: they hit me so hard my helmet broke. I cried. 313 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,479 Speaker 1: I quit. And so when I go out for wrestling, 314 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: my dad is like, you know, it's not like that wrestling, right, 315 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, yeah, it's cool. I go, but 316 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: I would need to learn something because I can't defend myself. 317 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: I'm just like I was a little pudgy fat nerd, 318 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: you know, and I was nervous because wrestling is the truth, man, 319 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: it is. It changes you. Man. It makes you so accountable, 320 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 1: not just like in a sport but in life because 321 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: football you could be killing it, but ten people don't 322 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: want to back you up. Now you lost as well. 323 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: Wrestling it taught me how to be so accountable because 324 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: if I lost, it's because I messed up. I heard 325 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: word for words, so many wrestlers, like amateur wrestlers, say 326 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: that yep, the interperson, and it made me translate that 327 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: to life. So if we fast forward some so there's like, okay, 328 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: I need to learn a language and a little bit 329 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: of Spanish because you know, I kinda want to wrestle 330 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: in Mexico. It's the closest country to me that speaks 331 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: a different language where I could possibly wrestle later in life. 332 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: So I started learning Spanish. Um I had incredible stage fright. 333 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: So my friend convinced me they were looking for guys 334 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: to be in show choir. And I was like, I'm 335 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: not saying I'm doing that. She goes, you have to age, right, 336 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: don't you? Guy said yeah, she goes, how are you 337 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: going to be a pro wrestler if you can't sing? 338 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: A dancer from the people, I said, So I joined 339 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: to get over that. In college, I was a cheerleader 340 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: because I knew I wasn't gonna be tall, So I 341 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: tried to get more agile so I could learn how 342 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: to do stuff. So, like literally every decision that I've 343 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: made in my life was to try to gain a 344 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: skill that might possibly help me in wrestling. And so 345 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: when I got to the point where I was in 346 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: developmental I was like, cool, now I need some sort 347 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: of gimmick. I need something. So I tried to be 348 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 1: the son of Papashongo. Um. So I was a motivational speaker. 349 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: I was that nineties guy. So I had like a 350 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 1: yack back turtles backpack. You know, I tried to be 351 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: like me essentially. Um, I tried to be like a 352 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: real American with Jack swagger. I had so many different 353 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: things to the point, remember the Jack swagger, Right, So 354 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: I tried so many different things to the point where 355 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: one one time I got a review that said, like, 356 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: I have too many ideas. So in my head, in 357 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 1: my in my how is that a bad thing? I've 358 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: never heard that as a criticism, right, And so in 359 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: my head, I was like, I don't even understand what 360 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: that means. Um, So I just I would like get 361 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: get upset and like I'm not I'm gonna make more ideas. 362 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to be more creative. And I had 363 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: so many people telling me like this will never I 364 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: have a list, a legitimate list. Breeze will tell you this, 365 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: he's seen this. I have a list of things in 366 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: developmental that I wanted to do, and I it's a 367 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: list of things that people told me I will never 368 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: be able to do. And I'm almost done with it. 369 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: I'm almost done checking things off. It's disgusting how good 370 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: it feels. And so all of that is why, like, 371 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: once it got to the point where we could try 372 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: to create a new day. I had this this idea 373 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: in my head and I didn't I don't know if 374 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: I ever voiced this to to the guys or if 375 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 1: it was something that I was consciously doing, but I 376 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 1: quickly realized in trying to figure out how to get 377 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: our chemistry and ring stuff all together, and to the 378 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: point of the chemis the chemistry that we have now, 379 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: which we were able to get from how shows. We 380 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: were on house shows for like four or five months 381 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: before we run and for those who don't know, that's 382 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 1: when they're on the road all the time, working matches, 383 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: doing promos, doing this. But there's no TV cameras. There 384 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,479 Speaker 1: is just for the people that come to the house. 385 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: So so having having that set up helped us a lot. 386 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: But in trying to get our chemistry down, we kind 387 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: of shed the gimmick because that wasn't that the gimmick 388 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 1: became secondary to our chemistry. And then once we realize 389 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: that we've leaned fully into our chemistry, and then it 390 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: could be literally whatever it wanted to be. You know, 391 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: you guys, you said shed right, because it's an evolution 392 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 1: and the cocoon to the butterfly, it's so funny. Like 393 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: one of the ways I as a as a young 394 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: buck that I always kind of I would see if 395 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: like wrestling was over, is like did they get a 396 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: word over? Did they get a phrase over? Things like 397 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: that like Steve Austin out the what over? But one 398 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: of the best, if not the best. But to me, 399 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: I hate it because it kills promos right, like if 400 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: somebody doesn't even know the stuff, then that that that's 401 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: what I like, because if the crowd is not they're interacting, 402 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,479 Speaker 1: trying to mess with us, trying to knock us off 403 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: our game. Like to me, that is what pro wrestling 404 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: is is what do you do when you mess up? 405 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: This is why I say it's like stand up with you. 406 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: Guys are like boxers there and the crowd is the 407 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: opponent and they want you to outsmart them. They want 408 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: you to him with his finger. They want to be 409 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 1: shut down because then they go, oh, he's good. And 410 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 1: that's that's what all this is. If you go a 411 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: B C. D. If you're like that's whatever, cool, that's 412 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: that's fine. Everything works, people like it, everyone enjoys it. 413 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,479 Speaker 1: But what do you do when things go arrived? I 414 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: remember the first time I saw Roman get the crowd 415 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: with his promo and I literally was like, either he 416 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: just figured it out or he just took like a 417 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: full court shot and made it. But it was the 418 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: first time they stopped wadding and work did that exact moment. 419 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: And it's funny because I'm sitting here and going as 420 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: a writer, right going, oh god, I hate the wood. 421 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: I've seen it, and you're like, no, give it to 422 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: get That's what and that's why you're able to get 423 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: these ideas over and get them through people. People know 424 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,719 Speaker 1: when it's real. Yeah, So it's so much more fun 425 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: because now now we're playing. This is all all, all 426 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: of this is a game, and they are a part 427 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: of the show. They want to be and they are 428 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: part of this. When you're watching wrestling on TV, you 429 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: cannot even almost feel the energy in the building. You 430 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: can't cannot even almost comprehend or even almost fathom what 431 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: the energy is like, but you can hear it. That's 432 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: the indicator. So even if I'm watching something and I'm 433 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: not fully invested or I'm not I'm cooking dinner or something, 434 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: but I hear the audience, I go, how I need 435 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 1: to turn and watch that. That makes it so much better. 436 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: How many matches if you would have seen just like 437 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: with no crowd, flat, no noise the match. This is 438 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: a good match, but that energy that you is trying 439 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: to experience through audible This is a good point because 440 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: I was, like I said, I was kind of like 441 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: anti crowd and then the pandemic hit and everyone was like, oh, 442 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: this is gonna be brutal. I'm not joking. I was like, 443 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: finally I can watch what I want to watch the 444 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: way I want to watch it. No, no, no, no no no. 445 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: And after the first one, I was like, oh man, 446 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: I really missed crowds. This is brutal. I was way 447 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: wrong on that. It's studio wrestling, Like it's it's not easy. 448 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: Everything hurts ten times worse because there's no adrenaline trying 449 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 1: to create it and and hope like you get to 450 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: a point where not that like you can just wrestle 451 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: and no automatically if it's good or bad, but like 452 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: you have a feel for like this was entertaining. Maybe 453 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: the crowd is gonna let you know that they have 454 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: their chance too, that they got over you know what 455 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 1: I mean. I've heard you guys get your This is awesome. 456 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: It's like that's a that's a powerful thing too. It's 457 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 1: instant gratification, Like if I make a movie, it's eight 458 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: months before you see it and I've already decided how. 459 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 1: I feel like, there's no for me. There's like no 460 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 1: point in any of this if there's no test, Like, 461 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: I want to be tested. I want to pass, I 462 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: want to fail. I want to get better. I want 463 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: to know where I'm at. You're not big on participation trophies. 464 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: I'd imagine no, no, dude, like, don't give it to me. 465 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,479 Speaker 1: I didn't earn this yet. I don't want it if 466 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: I haven't earned it. And the only way I can 467 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 1: find out if I've earned it is if I'm tested 468 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: on the material. So before we nerd out, Yeah, I 469 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: just want a lot of people listening, because I do 470 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: believe a lot of people from social media that that 471 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:41,959 Speaker 1: follow both of us will watch this, and I do 472 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: believe a lot of those people are artists in some way, 473 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: shape or form, whether it's painters, animators, sculptors, wrestlers, actors, musicians, whatever, 474 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: um everything Woods has said. I hope you guys go 475 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: back and listen to because it's literally the Blue Pray 476 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 1: and for how to stay true to yourself and your ideas. 477 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: And we hear the term sill thrown out a lot 478 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: these days. A shill is someone that is catering to 479 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: the fans, and that is the that is the opposite 480 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: of what an artist should be doing. They should be 481 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 1: making the art they love and then expressing themselves truthfully 482 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: and honestly. And then the power becomes the fan or 483 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: the audience and you get to decide whether you love 484 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 1: it as well or whether you don't connect to it. 485 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: But a lot of artists and younger ones, and this 486 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 1: is with social media and a like button, I see 487 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: a lot of you asking people what should I paint, 488 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 1: what should I sing? What should I do? And I 489 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: always want to like, if I had your number, I 490 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: would call you and be like, don't ever do that again. 491 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: I want you to sing what you love or play 492 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: the cello with a song that you like. Don't don't 493 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: ever ask my opinion ever. I'll let you know if 494 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: I like it or if I don't, win you're done. 495 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: But be true to yourself and make art for your self. 496 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: That's what stand up comedy and wrestling still have in 497 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 1: in by the dozen compared to all other art forms. 498 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: Movies are way different now there's so much c g 499 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: I there's so much less honesty that we can that 500 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 1: we can put out there because the animators who put 501 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 1: up honest work don't even have control of the edit 502 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: and don't even have control of what music is going 503 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 1: behind what They can take a line I said in 504 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: one scene, and if I said the same line and another, 505 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: they could put it in there. So it's when you're 506 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: in that live audience that's so funny. You had stage right, 507 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: Oh the worst you have like the zero percent stage 508 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: right now, Like you're the opposite. What's the stage courage? 509 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: Your stage courage? But all this at the same time, 510 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: like you were saying, it's getting to be myself. That's 511 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 1: the scariest thing is playing yourself. Yeah, But at the 512 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: same time, the reason that I'm like where where I 513 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: feel so comfortable in this is because I was doing 514 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: what other people were telling me all the time, taking 515 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: everyone else's advice except lookscept my own. Sure, I guess, 516 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: And once I got to the point where I said, 517 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: you know what, I want to throw my own punches 518 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: if I get knocked out. Good because now I know 519 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: that I'm not supposed to be here. I failed the test. 520 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 1: I don't have what it takes. My mind is not 521 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: built for wrestling, my body is not built for wrestling. Whatever, 522 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: I need to go and do something else. If I'm 523 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: constantly throwing someone else's punches and I get knocked out, 524 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 1: now I'm going to be blaming people constantly for the 525 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: rest of my life for messing up my shot. It 526 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 1: wasn't their shot, it was mine, and I decided what 527 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: to do with it. And if I don't succeed based 528 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: on your advice, that's my faults are created exactly, and 529 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 1: then that that it ruins your life. It's a pit 530 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: in your stomach, in the back of your brain. I 531 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: would much rather fail on my own accord and understand 532 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 1: come to terms with the fact that I'm not as 533 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: good as I thought I was. There's my reality checkmate, wrestling, accountability, legit, 534 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: It's it's all rolled into one. So if I'm able 535 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: to go out on my own terms and I and 536 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: I win that night, I don't go oh cool, I 537 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: I won forever. No, No, I have to win every night. 538 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: But I have a little more confidence, and the next 539 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: time I go out there, I have more confidence that 540 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna win again. And then every time I do that, 541 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm gonna win again. I'm gonna win again. 542 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 1: So at that point I stopped caring about do I 543 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: need to have a gimmick and have a mask, and said, no, 544 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: screw this. I like me, My friends like me, and legit, 545 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: having that relationship with them, being on camera with them, 546 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: doing promos with them, matches with them gave me that 547 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: confidence that I don't have to put on a mask 548 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: or be a different character in order to make money 549 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: at this place, I can just be me as a 550 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: human person. I have interest in video games, in the 551 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: last n corn In Big in all these different things, 552 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: and it's like, if you don't rock with it, cool, 553 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: I'm already here, dude, And regardless if you like me, 554 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: you're not, I'm about to have a bang or bell 555 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: to bell, So like you, you can't be mad, you 556 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: can justlike you can just like the character Davior Woods, 557 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: but like Austin Creed has done nothing but worked his 558 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: ass off in order to try. And if you don't 559 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: like it, so cool, it's totally you don't have to 560 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: like what I do. You have to enjoy my art. 561 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: That's totally fine. I have I have this this this 562 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: feeling that comes over me when I'm when I'm performing, 563 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: that that is all that I need. The way that 564 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: it makes me feel, that's all that I need. So 565 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: if you love it, I love you for it. Thank you. 566 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: And if you can't stay in it, I love you 567 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: for it. I bless you. But it's it's just that 568 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: feeling being out there with those guys. It's it's incredible, dude, 569 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: It's funny. I wasn't as comfortable as you are until 570 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: I got in my thirties, which you are now. And 571 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: before that, like all the movies I was doing, it 572 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: was always I didn't believe in my ideas. I would 573 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: do whatever the director said, Oh that has to be 574 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: better than than what I did, and I was kind 575 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: of learning on the job. And it wasn't until I 576 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: got into my thirties where I was really felt comfortable 577 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: on camera. This is no lie. My dream career would 578 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: be the actor Ron Perlman's career. He was always in prosthetics, 579 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: his face was always covered. He was hell Boy in 580 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: the original Hellboy movies. He was the preacher in that 581 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: Weird Island of Dr Moreau movie. He he was. Yes, 582 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: he was Beast from Beauty and the Beast, the live 583 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: action show in the eighties. He was I know, if 584 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: that movie it's a good movie, trash on it. It's 585 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: that's a good movie. I've seen it a lot, man, 586 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: and I'm always trying to like, why do people hate it? 587 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: I really like that. You know who the Cheetah was, right, 588 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: Mark the costcos that Filipino action star or American Filipino actions. 589 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: Can we redo this? Can I'd be your little a 590 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: little buddy the doctor bro. That would be the greatest 591 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: movie ever. Um. Okay, So we agreed on that. But 592 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: that's a good segue because I want to finish on 593 00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: nerding out. So you and I A few years ago, Uh, 594 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: there was an app called the d C app d 595 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: C Universe and you could watch shows like Teen Titans 596 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: I think they just called Titans um, and uh they 597 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: had Doom Patrol, which if you haven't seen, you should 598 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: actually watch that. I've seen a few episodes and it's 599 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: really funny. And I love Brednon Fraser so much. Um, 600 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: Sarah made a movie with him and I got to 601 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: hang out with him more than her, and I literally 602 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: was like, dude, I wish we were brothers when we left, 603 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: and he was like, so do I And he's just 604 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: this giant Canadian guy with a huge heart and I 605 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: love him. So anyway, you should watch that. Um. But anyway, 606 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: we made a show there that was a table top 607 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: role playing game, which, for those of you who don't know, 608 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: it's like Dungeons and Dragons, only they've made Dungeons and 609 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,719 Speaker 1: Dragons and all kinds of world. Some of them are 610 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: in space, somewhere in the future, somewhere in the wild West, 611 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: summer D and D and uh. We made one that 612 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: was in the superhero world and uh, I have been 613 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: and I don't even know if this is going to 614 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: come to fruition, but I'm just so excited I want 615 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: to talk about it. I've been trying to get a 616 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: meeting with the people at HBO Max who absorbed the 617 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: DC app and uh show them what we did there 618 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: and try to get going. And they watched it and 619 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: they reached out and they set up a meeting and 620 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: they want to talk about maybe doing more of DC. 621 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,479 Speaker 1: All Stars so much fun. For those of you who 622 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: don't know, God, it literally is an eighties game, and 623 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: so are our Dungeon Master or game master was his 624 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: dude named Sam Wit where Everybody Loves and and Uh. 625 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: He wrote this basically the Breakfast Club for Superheroes movie, 626 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: only with dice rolls, So it's a very linear story 627 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: were the characters. There's an element of improv to it, 628 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: but he knows where his story is going to go 629 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: and can control it. So if if you want to 630 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: see the pilot, it's out there. They put the first 631 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: one for free on YouTube, and you had to pay 632 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: for all the other ones. Um, but you can just 633 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: kind of see what it is. So I'm going in 634 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: there and I'm going to pitch him a few different 635 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: versions of it. I want to pitch him a villain's version, 636 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: but I want to see if they'll be down to 637 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: continue our story because I felt like we had a 638 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: lot more to do. You and I have my favorite 639 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: interaction ever in a tabletop role playing game. Our characters 640 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: had these secret goals. Do you remember this? And my 641 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: character was a nerd. I was I was the dork 642 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: from Breakfast Club and had no friends and was like 643 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: good with computers and everyone was crapping on me and 644 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: like making fun of me, and uh. By the end 645 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: of the game, we've revealed our real our true identities. 646 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: I was super dude and you were bad guy. And 647 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: we're up on this like pedestal of this torn down 648 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: chapel and we're looking in and we see the bad 649 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: guys in there. And I had this special skill that 650 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: if I could make one friend in this game, I 651 00:33:53,960 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: would be immune to this one particular character's attacks. And 652 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: we don't know each other's goals, and so this is 653 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: like when you're saying you can finish these other sentences 654 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: and things like that. So we're both sitting up there 655 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: and I look at you and I go we're about 656 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: to go into battle. And I saw it and I go, hey, hey, man, 657 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,839 Speaker 1: are you my friend? And what did you say? Yes? 658 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: I am, And I literally threw my paper in the 659 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: air and I was like, I'm jumping in and I'm 660 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: taking out next luker. And you said if I make 661 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: a friend he has attack doesn't work, so screw you. 662 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: And Sam just throws his pencil in there and he's like, 663 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: oh my god, what did I do? Why did I 664 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: give him the secret? And I had so much fun 665 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: playing these By now you guys are figuring out that 666 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 1: I'm a big dork. You put me on to a 667 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: d M who's a dungeon master that I want to 668 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: give love to, and they told me, since my podcast, 669 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 1: I'm allowed to do this. His name is kg Tang 670 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: and he had an online professional wrestling D and D 671 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: called d N d W, which you did, and you 672 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: were like this what it was like a luchador? I 673 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 1: was a lad? Uh did you hit him with Spanish? 674 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: On the Oh my god, you guys are seeing the 675 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: nerdy stuff. So Woods calls me from the game. I 676 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: think it just from the game we just played. I 677 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, Freddy would love this. So 678 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: this guy literally he facetimes and he's like, dude, you 679 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,879 Speaker 1: gotta come do this Dungeons and Dragons wrestling game. Are 680 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 1: you down? And I was in my truck eating a sandwich. 681 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: It was like yeah, man, sure, But I told him, 682 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,760 Speaker 1: I said, I gotta call Freddie Friston like wait what, yeah, 683 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: Freddy with love? What Like? When I showed them that, 684 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 1: it's you're like, oh my god, he's gonna come into 685 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: the game. Dude. They were so good to me. Here's 686 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: how this was the impression you left. This is how 687 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 1: good they were to me. So I call this guy. 688 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: He's this awesome dude who does voices. He's a voice 689 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: actor and he does wrestling voices as well, and so 690 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 1: his like announcer for the wrestling league is I think 691 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: like an orc or troll version of j R. And 692 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: so the voice is like, oh my god. So he's 693 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: already locked in on that, and uh he writes every 694 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: story for every single session, and I mean puts in 695 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: work on it. And he says, hey, it's a monster's only. 696 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: It's monster It's a monsters only had this rule. I 697 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 1: don't it's I don't know why. That makes me laugh, 698 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:29,280 Speaker 1: but he goes, it's a monster's only wrestling league. What's 699 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: your favorite monster? And so now my whole memory is 700 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,280 Speaker 1: white because I'm like, I'm thinking, like, you know, elves 701 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: and dwarves and all this stuff, and I go the 702 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: first one that pops in my head, I go an 703 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 1: awl Beart And so for those of you don't know, 704 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,399 Speaker 1: it's very self explanatory. It's a giant bear with an 705 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: owl head and a lot of feathers instead of fur, 706 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: and it's pretty darn tough. So I I hit this 707 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,720 Speaker 1: guy at KG back and this is going somewhere, I promise, 708 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 1: And I say, hey, man, can I be an Albart? 709 00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: And he goes, oh my god, I love you, Please 710 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: be an Albert. He said, okay, so I come in. 711 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: He has me roll for some statistics, so you're rolling 712 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 1: for things like strength intelligence. That was a rough one 713 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 1: for me, and then a bit of a backstory and 714 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: some of the stats that won't bore you. And my 715 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:17,399 Speaker 1: backstory was I got cursed from eating this wizard, and 716 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: the curse was I could I was now fluent in 717 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 1: every language, um, but could no longer speak or understand 718 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: my own. So I just hate everybody. I was just 719 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 1: grumpy and pissed off, so weird. Well, you know, it's wrestling, 720 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna be an Indie League champion coming in 721 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 1: with these other professional dn D players and the one 722 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 1: her name is Christina v Christina Valence. Well, I love her. 723 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 1: She voices ladybug girl. If any of you have kids, 724 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 1: your kids love her too. Um. And she's the nicest 725 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 1: out of all of them. She's like, oh my gosh, 726 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: how brought you a present? Dada, Dada. She's a killer, Okay. 727 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 1: She attacked me right away in the story where she 728 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 1: came to give me a hug, made an agility roll 729 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 1: and the success of that was she slipped something in 730 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: my sock that was gonna like affect me later, right, 731 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: So I was like, oh my god, you're a horrible 732 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 1: human being. I love you. Will you please play it 733 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,479 Speaker 1: all my RPG, which she does now She's even played 734 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 1: Mafia with Seth and Claire and all of us. And 735 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 1: she's a gangster that too. Um shout out to the 736 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,359 Speaker 1: dnd W crew, by the way. So I'm loving all 737 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 1: these people and I can't roll bad like no matter what, 738 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 1: and I always rolled back. I'm like the King of 739 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 1: the Four. Okay, So it's just seventeen eighteen twenty. I 740 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 1: think I rolled three natural twenties. Uh in the match 741 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 1: like that we were in against this like giant night 742 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 1: and I killed his kill him, I take him out 743 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 1: and I got the belt and I even did like 744 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 1: a voice. And the point of this was I modeled 745 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 1: him after the Big Show and literally so I made 746 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 1: him British so he sounded like this, but he was 747 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 1: incredibly grumpy and I even cut a promo. I was like, 748 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: I have to listen to your stupid languages and here 749 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: you're doing. To do this whole I had to do 750 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:05,399 Speaker 1: it on the fly, but it was and I've never 751 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,959 Speaker 1: done that before. It was incredible. And off of that 752 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 1: was when you asked me to uh, sacrifice my life 753 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 1: for a month and write you guys a tabletop RPG, 754 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 1: which I love doing. Man, I had a plast doing that. 755 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 1: Now I can't stop. There's literally another one right in. 756 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: Um so we're dorks. Yeah, it's a little bit, and 757 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: a lot of you probably are too, so in your face, 758 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: in your face, I haven't heard in your face. It 759 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: was big when I was in the eighties. Man, I 760 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 1: have my Z Cavarici's bringing it back like a Jimmy 761 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 1: Z shirt. In your face? So okay, so funny thing. 762 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,319 Speaker 1: So just for a second to go back to wrestling. So, 763 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: like you just said, this is what's funny. So I'm 764 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 1: gonna say that if I have a problem one Monday, 765 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: because it's funny to me, and I'll tell Coffee and 766 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 1: Ei this story and I'll go, oh, this is funny 767 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 1: that we're going. Yeah, and your face was no I 768 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 1: said in a long time. And we'll say it and 769 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 1: we'll giggle and someone we'll go, what why are they 770 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,280 Speaker 1: say in your face to ridicule me? Yeah, that's perfect, 771 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 1: but that again like just having fun coming and doing this, 772 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 1: like we're just having fun. I feel like this is 773 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 1: what people enjoy it. You guys have created something that 774 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 1: I love watching, that makes my kids laugh, that makes 775 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: me an old head laugh um. And I love what 776 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,360 Speaker 1: you guys have done for the business. I really feel. 777 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: I don't like saying people have changed the business, because 778 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: everything changes the business constantly, but you guys have really 779 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 1: helped the business evolve and find its way back to 780 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: the future of w w E fans and their their 781 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 1: logo is is you know what, then, now forever, And 782 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,800 Speaker 1: it's that kind of evolution that makes forever a possibility. 783 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 1: And I think wrestling, as crazy as it is right now, 784 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 1: I think it's in a really good place and I 785 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 1: think it's due for really big things in the next 786 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,919 Speaker 1: couple of years. And I like all the competition going 787 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: around right now. And I like the vibe that your 788 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: generation is laying down, which is like, yeah, I'm gonna elevate, 789 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna pull all of you up with me, 790 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: And it may not be as fast as climbing over 791 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 1: your head, but I sleep better at night. And I 792 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 1: love that your generation is down to do this, and 793 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 1: I see it not just from you, but from other 794 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: cats you've inspired, and it's just a different way of thinking. 795 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 1: And I love all you guys for it, but the 796 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 1: most I just I think that seeing and hearing all 797 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 1: of the stories from the guys and girls in the 798 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 1: previous men and women, excuse me of the previous generation, 799 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: and being able to learn from them and sit down 800 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 1: so like, I wouldn't be in w w E if 801 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 1: it wasn't for conversations with Devon Dudley. Yes, I got 802 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 1: to meet him. He was so cool, like legit. So 803 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 1: when I got released from t n A, I was 804 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,879 Speaker 1: again I was in that zone of man, I bet 805 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 1: on myself and I lost. Maybe I shouldn't be a wrestler, 806 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 1: not realizing that in that point of life. So I'm 807 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 1: still still in college and I in my head, I 808 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: was like, I can just do my school work and 809 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 1: try to be a good wrestler, not understanding that this 810 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 1: is a job and jobs have politics and you need 811 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 1: to be friends with people and you need to like 812 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:05,840 Speaker 1: make sure that people see you, and you need to 813 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 1: be knocking on doors to let people know that you 814 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: want opportunities things like that. But I just didn't understand 815 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 1: at the time, you know, so uh talking to Divon 816 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 1: he he he gave me the game, you know, he 817 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 1: explained all that stuff to me. He's like, this is 818 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 1: how you are, and this is probably why this happens. 819 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 1: Like no one knows for sure, like how things would 820 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 1: have worked had you did things differently. So much experience 821 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 1: in a game that he can make educated guess exactly, 822 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,839 Speaker 1: and so knowing things like that and hearing things from 823 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 1: him saying because then me telling him, maybe I'm not 824 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: cut out for this, He said, no, you haven't. You 825 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 1: haven't exhausted all your options. Continue grind and continue hustling. 826 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 1: If this is something that you want and you and 827 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 1: you at one point thought you should be here like, 828 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 1: then then continue to work, continue to grind and can 829 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 1: continue to get better, and you will create more opportunities 830 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,399 Speaker 1: because people say, like you find opportunities or they find 831 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 1: you like, No, you create, create and create. The luck 832 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 1: is the intersection of skill and opportunity, Like you have 833 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 1: to be ready and then you have to make things happen. 834 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,359 Speaker 1: My godfather said, it's it's luck is being prepared when 835 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 1: the opportunity comes your way. Yes, and if you're not 836 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 1: then you're of course you're going to fail. And so 837 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 1: like by him sitting on the phone with me while 838 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:12,239 Speaker 1: I'm like I'm like crying to him about dude, I 839 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 1: love the ure, like I'm I'm weeping, and he's on 840 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 1: the phone with me for like two hours, just like 841 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,360 Speaker 1: comforting me, making me feel better and then pumping me 842 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,840 Speaker 1: up about things. By the end of the conversation, I 843 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 1: immediately got on the phone and like started getting booked again, 844 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 1: Like he did Devon Deadly change my life. Dude, I 845 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 1: love that guy. I love him even more now when Man, 846 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 1: when I did Punky Blissen and Flair came out and 847 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:36,839 Speaker 1: we're nice enough to come and do like a bit 848 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 1: with the new Punky girl, and he was the agent 849 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 1: that they said now and so while they were working, 850 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 1: I was just like talking to him and just nerding out. 851 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, dude, I used to watch how 852 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 1: many tables do you think you went through? Just totally 853 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,399 Speaker 1: and he was really cool and nice to me. Man, 854 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 1: but he just looks so tough and just I love Yeah, 855 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 1: I got a soft spot for all y'all's he's he's 856 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,360 Speaker 1: the best guy you know, and so like without that conversation. 857 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be and at this table with you you 858 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 1: like we would have been talking like I wouldn't be 859 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,360 Speaker 1: in there with Kofini like I would the None of 860 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,880 Speaker 1: this happens without Devon taking the time to care about me, 861 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 1: you know. And so for me, that is how I've 862 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 1: tried to make sure I'm trying to leave things better 863 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 1: than they were when I got here, because it's not 864 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 1: wrestling like doing things, it's fun and having goals. Once 865 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 1: you achieve those goals, I feel like you didn't have 866 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 1: the responsibility to make it better for the next person. Yes, 867 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 1: there's still things that I want to do and still 868 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,879 Speaker 1: things that I want to achieve as because as you 869 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 1: as you get to your goal, your you move the 870 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 1: goal post back some because you want to find something new. 871 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 1: I've hit, I've hit what I wanted since I was 872 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,359 Speaker 1: a kid. So while I'm still trying to achieve things 873 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 1: that I want, I also have to put equal energy 874 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,360 Speaker 1: into building a better path for the for the sixteen 875 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 1: year olds that want to start wrestling next year. And 876 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 1: it's a harder road to walk, but it's a it's 877 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,400 Speaker 1: an unbelievably possible road to walk down. It's just a 878 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 1: little bit harder and people it's very difficult to say, 879 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 1: don't just look out for you, But you don't have 880 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,799 Speaker 1: to just look out for you. Once you get to 881 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,280 Speaker 1: a certain point confidence wise, you really can bring others 882 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,839 Speaker 1: with you. And how more artists start doing that. It's 883 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 1: just it's wrestlers leading the way. What do you know 884 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 1: about that? Well do you know about that? It's one 885 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 1: of those things where you know, you hear people like 886 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 1: somebody got bullied and this is just like in life, 887 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 1: like so somebody got bullied before they got into a 888 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 1: good position in life, and then so like they're bullying 889 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,400 Speaker 1: people to like, you know, because that's how they were 890 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 1: brought up. Like you know, like if you got bullied 891 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,880 Speaker 1: and then you became you know that that top person, 892 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't You want to just make sure that people don't 893 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,239 Speaker 1: go through like the bs you went through. You want 894 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 1: to make it better. Put him in karate school, don't 895 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 1: bully him. Yeah, give him with scholarship. So talking about 896 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: Devon and just like other veterans who have like, since 897 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,800 Speaker 1: you're giving us the game, like we know that there's 898 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 1: certain things that we can do to make sure that 899 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 1: we're better off, you know, like we get to stand 900 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 1: on their shoulders, and that's why he's doing that and 901 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,919 Speaker 1: sharing those two hours with you because you knew you'd 902 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 1: be receptive to that. He's not gonna waste his time otherwise. No, no, 903 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 1: but it's like we gotta leave it better for the 904 00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 1: next people, and they gotta leave it better for the 905 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,959 Speaker 1: one after them. So like it's it's cool to see 906 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 1: everything change and to be a part of such an 907 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 1: interesting evolution of wrestling. I feel like the past ten 908 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,799 Speaker 1: years wrestling is like very different just from when I 909 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,359 Speaker 1: was there. It's there's nothing that women had a five 910 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 1: minute match when I worked there, and two minutes was 911 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:23,680 Speaker 1: their entrances. They get too commercial breaks now, like it's 912 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 1: in the third hour a raw, Like it's wrestling is 913 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,000 Speaker 1: night and day, night and day, and I love it. 914 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,600 Speaker 1: It's just it's just better. We have so many, so 915 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 1: many talented people, and there's so many talent people not 916 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,719 Speaker 1: just in w W but in the world at that 917 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,960 Speaker 1: are good at this and like, if you don't like 918 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 1: this one, then watch that one, and you don't have 919 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,239 Speaker 1: to baden off this one to say that you like 920 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 1: this one. Like there's so much space for everybody. Everything 921 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,360 Speaker 1: but you're the reason I know about wrestling pro wrestling. 922 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,279 Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite things to do is watch that. 923 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,400 Speaker 1: You know it is, We're gonna talk. I'm gonna talk 924 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 1: about it. I'm gonna go deep on another episode. I 925 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 1: even want to bring on Yeah, I want to have 926 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,440 Speaker 1: Kendrick here for it, because it's literally like if the 927 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,759 Speaker 1: kids in the Hall from HBO and Mr Show and 928 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,760 Speaker 1: Vince McMahon somehow made a baby and that baby wanted 929 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,439 Speaker 1: to be a wrestler. Oh, can I say yea side question? 930 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,280 Speaker 1: Can you follow me on the Socials of course, Austin 931 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 1: Creed wins and check me out on G four t 932 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 1: V Bay Bay. Yeah, we're not We're not. We're not 933 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,520 Speaker 1: ending this just yet G four TV. So I'm not 934 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,920 Speaker 1: even gonna lie. When I found out they were casting 935 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 1: for it, I legit talked to Sarah and I was like, yo, there, 936 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 1: that was like a cool show man, and She's like, 937 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,880 Speaker 1: you're so old, They're never I was like, yeah, no, 938 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 1: I was just talking out lab and then I see 939 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,919 Speaker 1: you tweet like yo, that would be like a sick job. 940 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 1: And then it kind of it got this movement. That's 941 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,360 Speaker 1: the power of your positivity. It got this digital movement 942 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,319 Speaker 1: behind it, and all of a sudden you're like, yo, man, 943 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm wanna be a host on G four. That's like 944 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 1: a dream job. And I read the text, I was like, 945 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,919 Speaker 1: oh my god, that's amazing. It's like so unreal, because 946 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 1: it's like, that's that's what like all the hustle has 947 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,800 Speaker 1: been for, especially like in gaming stuff, because like again, 948 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 1: learning from guys like Devon and learning from veterans like 949 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 1: that who are kind enough to have these conversations, like 950 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 1: that transitional period from stopping wrestling and starting something else 951 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,799 Speaker 1: is weird. But then you can in any profession, as 952 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 1: you're getting older and maybe like phasing out of something 953 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,319 Speaker 1: doing something and you've got to start chapter three or four, 954 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 1: whatever you wanna call it, is like what what do 955 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,840 Speaker 1: I do? And Yeah, So in my head, it's like, 956 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,080 Speaker 1: how can I make that transition as easy as possible 957 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 1: without feeling that anxiety like nearing the end of my 958 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,200 Speaker 1: career whenever that may be, And it's like just be 959 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 1: in the space and so getting getting the green light 960 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,880 Speaker 1: from G four, like I don't know, that's for me, 961 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:41,880 Speaker 1: that's the biggest jump that I have have made in 962 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 1: my head because that to me is like, all right, 963 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 1: we accept you in the gaming experience like for real 964 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 1: net because that there's always in my in the back 965 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,120 Speaker 1: of my head, I'm I'm if you haven't realized, ladies 966 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,439 Speaker 1: and gentlemen, I'm a very anxious person. And so whenever 967 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,080 Speaker 1: I do gaming stuff, even though I've been in the 968 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 1: space for like six years now, and there's that, oh, 969 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 1: who's this random wrestler guy on my TV? Like, and 970 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,120 Speaker 1: I did e a play? I know there's hell of 971 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:04,719 Speaker 1: people that have watched that that have no clue who 972 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,920 Speaker 1: Xavier Woods is and don't care you know, um, and 973 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 1: they go, oh, they just hear ww like, oh it's 974 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:11,799 Speaker 1: a random wrestl he doesn't know anything about video games. 975 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 1: But then my my job in my head is like 976 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,880 Speaker 1: I have to be so much more cautious, not cautious, 977 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,960 Speaker 1: but conscious um of of getting myself to a position 978 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,920 Speaker 1: where they go oh um. And so being able to 979 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,200 Speaker 1: do that to the point of becoming a G four 980 00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:29,400 Speaker 1: host tells me my transition should be should be okay, 981 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,000 Speaker 1: And that's what's suddenly love you know, Yeah, it's power 982 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,759 Speaker 1: positivity people, And we'll speak to you guys next time. 983 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,440 Speaker 1: This has been a production of I heart Radio's Michael 984 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,720 Speaker 1: Tura podcast network. For more podcasts for my heart Radio, 985 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,800 Speaker 1: visit the i heart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever 986 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:47,160 Speaker 1: you listen to your favorite chills