1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Is this a great game or what with the Hall 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: of Famer Tim Kirkshon. I'm his son, Jeff Kirkshon. And Dad, 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: we were shoveling a driveway yesterday together. You and Mom 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: came up to visit me, and we got kind of 5 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: sort of snowed in the northeast, got pounded. 6 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: I got almost ten inches here. 7 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 3: Jeff. Let's be clear, you had a snow shovel. I 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 3: had a regular shovel. As I was trying to shovel 9 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 3: snow at age sixty nine off of your driveway with 10 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 3: a shovel that you would dig a hole with. 11 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, I felt terrible. I told you to go inside. 12 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: You could go make breakfast for Mom and I instead 13 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: of being out there with a yeah, a normal bladed shovel. 14 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: But here you are chipping away and you swept off 15 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: my car. 16 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: You helped me hang some TVs. 17 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: It was a fantastic weekend, Dad, and I gotta say, 18 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 1: I'm really I really liked your combo birthday Christmas gift 19 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 1: I got you. 20 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 2: You're wearing it right now. 21 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 3: Yes, this is very warm, and this is one of 22 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,279 Speaker 3: the best birthday presents I've ever got. Is this very warm? 23 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 3: Two toned, you know, like sweater vest here that is 24 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 3: really really warm, Jeff, I this beat the heck out 25 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 3: of the birthday from I think it was three years ago. 26 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 3: Do you remember the four presents I got at the 27 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 3: birthday four years three years ago? 28 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 2: Help me? 29 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 3: Number one was a broom? 30 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 2: Oh? 31 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:37,559 Speaker 3: Yes? 32 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: Number two you asked, let it be, You asked, like 33 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: one of the classic brooms with like the one a 34 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: witch would ride on. 35 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 3: Yes? Absolutely? What else did I get? What did you 36 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 3: get me for my birthday three years ago? Which wasn't 37 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 3: as good as this? 38 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 2: Was it a dice in vacuum? 39 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 3: No? Is that three years ago got me? You got 40 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 3: me two things. 41 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: You got me oh, a back trimmer, y back care trimmer, right, and. 42 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 3: You got me a trimmer for my ears. That's why 43 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 3: it's the same birthday. I got a broom. I got 44 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 3: something to shave my ears and something to shave my back. 45 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 3: And if you could remember the fourth major president that 46 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 3: I received three years ago, I'm not going to make 47 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 3: you remember, Jeff. This whole birthday made me feel like 48 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty years old because I got one 49 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 3: of those lights that you can put on your head 50 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 3: like a doctor would wear head lamp, a head lamp, 51 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 3: like if you're out for a run, I guess you 52 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 3: could be seen. But more important, if you have to 53 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 3: go down into the basement and all the lights are 54 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 3: out and you need your hands and you can't hold 55 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 3: a flashlight, you'll have a like a miner's light on 56 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 3: your head. That's what I got for my birthday three 57 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 3: years ago, Jeff, So thank you so much for such 58 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 3: a sparkling gift. This year. 59 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you enjoyed it. 60 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: Dad, I know we were really really excited for you 61 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: and mom to come visit. You brought presents up for 62 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: my daughter McKinley. Now I'm living the bachelor life because 63 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: my wife and daughter they went out to Las Vegas 64 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 1: to see my wife's family, and I'll be joining them 65 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: for the actual Christmas holiday. But now I'm just alone 66 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: in this big house by myself, and quite frankly, it's amazing. 67 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 3: Don't tell my wife all right now, Jeff, you are. 68 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 3: I've been telling people this. I still don't think you 69 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 3: could possibly be my son because you are so handy 70 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 3: around the house. It's incredible. How many TVs did we 71 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 3: put up? When I say we, all I did was 72 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 3: pick up the TV. You did all the work. Where 73 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 3: did you learn to do that? To mount a TV 74 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 3: on the wall? 75 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: YouTube? Mostly? 76 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: But Dad, and I know you're trying to flatter me, 77 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: and I appreciate it, but you have to remember that 78 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: one of the TVs that we put up this past 79 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: weekend was because I did it incorrectly the last time 80 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: you were here. So half of what I do as 81 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: a di wire Dad is fixing my own mistakes. And 82 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: I think any di wire can agree that that, unless 83 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: they're really good, is part of the project. You have 84 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: to budget in a time to fix or perfect what 85 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: you screwed up. 86 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: So that was part of my weekend. 87 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 3: All right, You didn't screw up anything. You were great, 88 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 3: and we fixed and really polished maybe four to five 89 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 3: rooms in your house. And when Emily comes home from 90 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 3: her Christmas vacation with you from Las Vegas, she is 91 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 3: going to be thrilled to see the work that you 92 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 3: did with your handyman work. You and Mom were just 93 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 3: breathtaking to watch. 94 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: Well, Dad, I appreciate it, and you were extremely helpful. 95 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: Nobody takes directions better than Dad. And the hardest thing is, Dad, 96 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: I feel bad for you. In a thirty second moment 97 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: where I don't have something for you to do, I 98 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: just say, uh, Dad, I think there's a full trash 99 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: can downstairs. 100 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 2: Can you take it out? And you're like, Okay. 101 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 3: The lesson that I've lived my whole life around is 102 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 3: there is no job that is too small for pop up. Okay, 103 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 3: just give me something to do that helps the cause. 104 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 3: As long as there what is my other motto? As 105 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 3: long as there is no what skill and skilled involved? 106 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 3: That is putting things together? Reading instructions. I'm a writer, 107 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 3: and I can't read the instructions on how to put 108 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 3: a bench together, or a table or anything else. There's 109 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 3: something wrong with me. Jeff. You obviously have a gene 110 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 3: that I have never had, and I'm really envious. 111 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: All right, Dad, you have to pick one. 112 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: Would you rather put a coffee table from Ikea together 113 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: or play a full game of Settlers of Catan? 114 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 3: Well, that is the definition of tedious Settler of Katan. 115 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 3: Do you have any wheat? Jeff? Do you have any sheep? 116 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 3: I've never won that game. I've never even come close. 117 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 3: I don't even know if I understand the goal of 118 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 3: the game. But never mind, I'm not good at that game. 119 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 3: I'm good at some board games. That's not one of them. 120 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 3: You have to pick one, all right, I would I 121 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 3: would rather play Settlers of Catan as long as it ends, 122 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 3: as long as it ends in forty five minutes, because 123 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 3: it can't take much more than that. 124 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 2: Ain't that the truth? All right? 125 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 3: Dad? 126 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: Well let's jump into the takeaways. And I'm not usually 127 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: mister breaking news. But as I was walking down the 128 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: stairs to set up my camera and microphone to get 129 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: ready for this, Adolus Garcia goes to the Phillies. 130 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 2: For one year and ten million dollars. 131 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: Now, granted, if you've listened to the podcast before, you 132 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: know I live outside Philadelphia, so I get all those 133 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: news alerts. 134 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 2: But that just came down excited signing, right, Jeff. 135 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 3: Again, It used to be a day, Jeff, that once 136 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:01,119 Speaker 3: the Winter meetings were over, like baseball all shut down 137 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 3: for like three weeks, you know, all the way through 138 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 3: Christmas in the New Year. Well, those days are so 139 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 3: far from being over now. The Winter meetings like never end. 140 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 3: They just all they go all the way through. I 141 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised if we had a signing on Christmas Eve, 142 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 3: our young brilliant, wildly aggressive general managers will do whatever 143 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 3: it takes to make a deal to sign a player, 144 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 3: and Odolis Garcia is going to help the Phillies. Remember 145 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 3: he was a star in the twenty twenty three World 146 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 3: Series for the Texas Rangers. I refuse to believe he 147 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 3: is done as an effective player. Not much of a 148 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 3: defender in the outfield, but he can really hit and 149 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 3: assuming he's the same guy of a few years ago. 150 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 3: So another good move for the Phillies. We're building back 151 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 3: their offense. Their pitching is still pretty good. So yes, 152 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 3: good move by them, but you have you know, more 153 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 3: moves have already been made. You know, the Dodgers got better. 154 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 3: They signed Edwin Diaz to a three year deal member JEP. 155 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 3: Two years ago, the Dodgers won the World Series basically 156 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 3: without a starting rotation. They used their bullpen to win 157 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 3: the World Series. And then this year twenty twenty five, 158 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 3: they won the World Series without a bullpen because their 159 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 3: bullpen was so messed up. They used their starters, mostly Yamamoto, 160 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 3: to get them through the difficult times. Now it appears 161 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 3: they have a great starting rotation and a really good 162 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 3: bullpen because Edwin Diaz is going to stabilize the ninth inning. 163 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 3: That's just another case of the good, you know, the 164 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 3: best getting better that. 165 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: With Brandon Nemo gone, Pete Alonzo gone, Edwin Diaz gone. 166 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,239 Speaker 1: Any words for Mets fans out there. 167 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 3: Well again, they signed Juare Planco, who's going to play 168 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 3: first base instead of Pete Alonzo. He's not Pete Alonzo, 169 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 3: but we saw him in the postseason. He was a 170 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 3: very effective player. He can hit, and he's still relatively 171 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 3: close to his prime. Again, he's not going to fill 172 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 3: the gap that Pete Alonso left. But yeah, the point 173 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 3: of this is there is a lot of time left 174 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 3: in the offseason and the Mets are not going to 175 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 3: go into next year. Steve Cohen, the owner, is not 176 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 3: going to allow this team to be a non competitive team. 177 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 3: He has promised these fans we are gonna win the 178 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 3: World Series, and right now they're not close to being 179 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 3: a World Series team. However, the offseason has just begun. 180 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 3: Their starting pitchers all over the place. The Mets have 181 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 3: a lot of work to do, but I am confident 182 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 3: that by the by opening day of next year, they're 183 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 3: they're gonna have a team that can at least has 184 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 3: the potential to make the playoffs. That's I think all 185 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 3: Mets fans gonna ask, give us a chance to make 186 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 3: the playoffs. This will be a contending team. Agreed. 187 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 2: I agree, definitely. 188 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: I mean, if there's one thing about Steve Cohen, he 189 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: is not going to go quietly. He is not going 190 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: to let that team. He's going to make another big signing. 191 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. So I guess to Mets fans, try 192 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: to be patient because it's a long offseason still ahead. 193 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: Any other takeaways, Yeah, Jeff, I looked at my Hall 194 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: of Fame ballot. 195 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 3: The Hall of Fame ballot arrives in the mail. I've 196 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 3: been a voter for thirty five years on the Hall 197 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 3: of Fame, and it's the greatest privilege I have. It's 198 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 3: greatest honor I have. I've told you a million times 199 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 3: it's an incredibly difficult exercise, and we're not going to 200 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 3: get into why it's so difficult these days. This is 201 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 3: why I'm just going to throw this out to all 202 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 3: of our listeners and all of our viewers. Take a 203 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 3: look at the ballot and fill it out like you 204 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 3: have an actual vote, like I do. And this year 205 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 3: is not a very strong ballot. Frankly, but I'm really 206 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 3: curious to see what people come up with. And every 207 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 3: person has a different opinion on this, and I want 208 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 3: you to do it too, Jeff. I want you to 209 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 3: look at the ballot and I want you to You're 210 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 3: only allowed to vote for ten. You're allowed to vote 211 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 3: for zero. If you don't think there's a Hall of 212 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 3: Famer on this ballot, you vote for zero and sign 213 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 3: your name. That's saying I don't think there's a Hall 214 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 3: of Famer on this ballot. Personally, I do. Some years, Jeff, 215 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 3: A lot of years. A lot of years I've voted 216 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 3: for the maximum ten. There have been a few years, Jeff, 217 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 3: where I voted for ten, And if they had given 218 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 3: me the leeway to vote for sixteen, seventeen, eighteen players, 219 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 3: I would have. That's how many Hall of Famers I 220 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 3: thought there were on the ballot, you know, several years ago. 221 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 3: It's not that not the case right now. But I 222 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 3: want you and anyone at home to just I don't 223 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 3: need any sympathy here, Jeff. I'm just trying to tell 224 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 3: you what a fascinating, fun and difficult exercise this is. 225 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 3: Is filling out a Hall of Fame ballot and then 226 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 3: being able to justify everything that you did. 227 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, Dad, you know I'm looking at it right now, 228 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: and I know you told me to take my time 229 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: with it. But there's already two names in my opinion 230 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: that stick out that are going to make it, and 231 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: that's Carlos Peltron and Andrew Jones. They both came so 232 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: close last year, so I mean, seventy point three percent 233 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: of the vote for Carlos Peltron and then sixty six 234 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: point two percent for Andrew Jones, So I think they're 235 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: both showings. But now, Dad, I think there is a 236 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: compelling argument, with all due respect to Jeff Kent, going 237 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: down to Dustin Pedroia. It's a second year on the ballot. 238 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: He got just over eleven percent last year. But I 239 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 1: think Jeff Kent is going to help usher in maybe 240 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: a couple other second. 241 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 2: Basemen who have been overlooked. 242 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: Russell Bijroya won an MVP, won a couple World Series. 243 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying he deserves to get in, 244 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: but I think the Jeff Kent argument might usher in 245 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: Dustin Broya. Maybe not this year or maybe not twenty 246 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: twenty six, but definitely in the future. 247 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 3: Right Dustin Proya has a long, long way to go, 248 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 3: but I agree he and Chase Udley will be helped 249 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 3: by the fact that a second baseman went in. And 250 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 3: I repeat, I voted for Jeff Ken every year he 251 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 3: was eligible, so I've always thought he was a Hall 252 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 3: of Famer, and I voted for Chase Udley last year, 253 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 3: and I think he will get a boost, but I 254 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 3: don't think it's going to be enough to get him close. 255 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 3: And Jeff remember going from sixty six percent to seventy 256 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 3: five percent, that's a pretty big jump. But I agree 257 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 3: with you. I think Beltron and Andre Jones have a 258 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,599 Speaker 3: chance this year to get in. We'll see where it 259 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 3: goes from here. But my point is this is such 260 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 3: an interesting exercise. And I always get on the phone 261 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 3: with Jason Stark and some of my other friends and 262 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 3: we just backed some names around just to make sure 263 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 3: we've covered the things I call people who played with 264 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 3: certain players. You know, we've got some first timers like 265 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 3: Cole Hamil's coming up, who's got some interesting numbers. I'm 266 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 3: not sure they're Hall of Fame numbers, but they're interesting. 267 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 3: So just put yourself in the shoe of a baseball writer. 268 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 3: And we get clobbered every year. Jeff, we do a 269 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 3: terrible job. That's not true. We're doing the best we 270 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 3: can in a very difficult situation. So that's it. Last thing, Jeff, 271 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 3: I just served. I just sat through a conference call 272 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 3: from Tops the Baseball Cards. This is their seventy fifth anniversary, 273 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 3: seventy five greatest baseball cards ever, and they have a 274 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 3: top ten and then the top seventy five total. It 275 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 3: was I'm just telling you, I was completely out of 276 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 3: my element because I don't know any of these baseball cards. 277 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 3: You know, these guys were so good on this call. 278 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 3: Well the Mantle fifty two card isn't as good as 279 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 3: the Mantle fifty three card. And I'm thinking, I don't 280 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 3: know what they're talking about, but this is their livelihood, 281 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 3: this is their job, and they knew every card out there. 282 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 3: It was such an interesting exercise. And one of the 283 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 3: cards I was struck by the list, Jeff, was one 284 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 3: of Aurelio Rodriguez, who was the third baseman in the 285 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 3: sixties and the seventies, was on the Senators in the 286 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 3: sixties when I love the centers. What is one of 287 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 3: the distinctions of Aurelio Rodriguez. 288 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 2: Jeff, he has all the vowels in his name. 289 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 3: There you go. And uh, in fact, I think he's 290 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 3: got all the vowels in his first name. Correct A E. 291 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 2: I O you that's right. 292 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 3: That's pretty cool. So there was a baseball card of 293 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 3: Arelio Rodriguez, but it wasn't and it wasn't Aurelio Rodriguez. 294 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 3: It was the bat boy. So they have a baseball 295 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 3: card of Aurelio Rodriguez, but it's not him, it's the 296 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 3: bat boy. And let's see if you let's see how 297 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 3: good your memory is, Jeff, what is what is my 298 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 3: baseball card story from the sixties? 299 00:15:58,440 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 2: Oh? 300 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: Is this where you had artist? 301 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 3: You can remember the player? First off, you have to 302 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 3: remember the player. He played for the Oakland A's mostly 303 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 3: he was a Latino shortstop. He could really run, and 304 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 3: he had a first name, nickname. 305 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 2: Bert Campineris. 306 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 3: Wasn't it very good? So Pop, your grandfather, my father 307 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 3: took the three boys to the Shorham Hotel. We did 308 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 3: this occasionally, not all the time, occasionally, and I got 309 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 3: an autograph from someone that I thought was Bert Campaneras. 310 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 3: So I went to him and said, can I have 311 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 3: your autograph? And the very regal, elegant looking gentleman said 312 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 3: to me, well, I'm not a baseball player, but I 313 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 3: will sign your paper for your autograph, I will sign 314 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 3: my autograph. So do you remember who the guy was? Jeff? 315 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: This is the one I can't remember. 316 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 3: He's a singer. 317 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: Jeff, I understand I can't remember it. 318 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 3: You're in the music business. How could you not remember this? 319 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 2: I'm thirty two. 320 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 3: All right? 321 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 2: This right, country music radio show Stan. 322 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 3: Happened in nineteen sixty eight. All right, it was Harry Belafonte, 323 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 3: Harry Belafonte, Harry Belafonti's autograph thinking he was Campy Campanias. 324 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 1: Wow, wow, wow, Yeah, that's one of my favorite stories 325 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 1: that I won't forget it. 326 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 2: They got it. 327 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: Didn't say Roy Campanella because that's the first one that 328 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: came to mind, and I said, that can't be right, right, 329 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: and then Campa Naris came to mind afterwards. Woo, that 330 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: was almost as bad as Bronson Ororeo there for a second, 331 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: Oh my. 332 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 3: God, that could have been really bad. 333 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So coming up next here on is 334 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: this a great game or what we'll go on? 335 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 2: This state in baseball history? Three cards a team. 336 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 1: Tim's gonna wrap things up, getting you in the Christmas spirit, 337 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: and then a couple of seamheads are going to join 338 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: us next. All right, Dad, on the state baseball history. 339 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: It's December the sixteenth. 340 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 3: Right, And on this date, Tom Seaver was reacquired by 341 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 3: the Mets and went on to win a bunch more 342 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 3: games with the Mets. When others thought he might be 343 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 3: done as an effective pitcher, Tom Seaver was never done. 344 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 3: One of the top ten to fifteen pitchers of all time. 345 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 3: Very underrated my mind in a lot of ways. And 346 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 3: since I'm challenging you again, Jeff, do you remember the 347 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 3: great story that Jeremy Shapp told about his father and 348 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 3: Tom sever No, all right, Dick shall collect. Yes, Dick 349 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 3: Shapp collected people, is how he put it. So one 350 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 3: night he goes out to dinner. You're going to finish 351 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 3: the punchline here, Jeff. If not, you're off the show. Okay. 352 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 3: So Dick Shapp takes a bunch of his friends out 353 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 3: to dinner, a bunch of sports writers from New York. 354 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 3: Tom sever This is like late sixties, early seventies. Muhammad 355 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 3: Ali was at the table. Also, what did Muhammad Ali, 356 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 3: who by the way, was a really smart man and 357 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 3: a but not a great baseball fan. What did he 358 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 3: say to Tom sever about three quarters of the way 359 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 3: through the evening? 360 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 2: So, which paper do you write for? 361 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 3: Great? Sorry, all right, that was very good, Jeff. 362 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: Okay, Jeremy Schapp was one of those interviews that I 363 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: just can't get out of my head. 364 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 2: We had so much fun with him. 365 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 1: If you missed that interview, it's back on the podcast 366 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 1: scroll back. 367 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 2: Okay, contin and. 368 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 3: What what are we doing next week? Jeff explain, might 369 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 3: as well, Yeah as well tell him now, we're going 370 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 3: to tell him again at the end. 371 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: So two weeks in a row, we are going to 372 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 1: bring you the best of our interviews. So on December 373 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: twenty third and December the thirtieth, you're going to get 374 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: part one and part two, respectively, of our highlights of 375 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: our guests. Now, Dad, you and I talk about this 376 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: all the time. Obviously, this podcast is about a father 377 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: and a son loving the game of baseball, right, but 378 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: it's also about people telling great stories and friends in 379 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: the industry, your friends specifically, And so we did this 380 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,719 Speaker 1: last year as a celebration of your birthday. 381 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 3: Dad. 382 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: I think we released it on your birthday, but We 383 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: decided the episode was long because it was so many 384 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: great moments, so we're going to split it into two moments. 385 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: I am going to not rest now that I have 386 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: no wife and no daughter in the house. I'm going 387 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: to not rest until I get this whole episode together. 388 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: Part one, the twenty third, Part two on the thirtieth. 389 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: So make sure to subscribe wherever you're listening right now, 390 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: because I guarantee there's going to be a moment you 391 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: here and you're going to go I need to re 392 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: listen to Steve Sparks, or I need to go back 393 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: I missed Adam Dunn, or whatever it might be. You 394 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: will find a moment that makes you think, oh my gosh, 395 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: how did I not remember that? Or how did I 396 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: not hear that the first time around? 397 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 2: It's going to be great. I'm looking forward to it. 398 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 3: Right right, okay, Jeff. Also on this date, the great, late, 399 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 3: the late great Mike Flanagan was born in nineteen fifty one. 400 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 3: Mike Flannigan's one of my favorite players that I ever covered. 401 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 3: He probably made me laugh more than any player I've 402 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 3: ever covered, and he told so many great stories. I 403 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:29,239 Speaker 3: remember asking once like where did your control as a 404 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 3: pitcher come from. And he said, well, my grandfather used 405 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 3: to catch me in the backyard when I was in 406 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 3: high school. And he said he was kind of old 407 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 3: when he was catching me, so I couldn't throw it 408 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 3: too far out of the strike zone because he couldn't 409 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 3: move well enough to go catch it, and then if 410 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 3: it did get by him, he would have to go 411 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 3: walk and pick up the ball. So he said, I 412 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 3: learned to throw strikes because I was throwing to my grandfather. 413 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 3: Do you love that, Jeff. 414 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 2: I mean, it's so perfect. 415 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: You don't want to make him crash down to his knees, 416 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: that that would be terrible of view it. 417 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 2: Right and up a bouncing ball. 418 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 3: So Mike Flanningan won the cy Young in nineteen seventy nine, 419 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 3: and of course he's on the same team, of course 420 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 3: with Jim Palmer, who had already won three cy Young Awards, 421 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 3: and in nineteen eighty Steve Stone, also with the Orioles, 422 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 3: is on his way to winning the cy Young that season. 423 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 3: So Mike Flanningen came up with the levels of ci Okay. 424 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 3: So Jim Palmer was cy Old because he had won 425 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,959 Speaker 3: all these cy Youngs. Mike Flanninggan was cy Young because 426 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 3: he was the reigning Cy Young winner. Steve Stone, who 427 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 3: was gonna win easily, was cy present. And Storm Davis, 428 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 3: who was a great young pitcher on the way he was, 429 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 3: he was ci Future. And then and then he said, 430 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 3: and then when any pitcher got hurt, he became cy 431 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 3: Bex because back then that's what they used to use 432 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 3: to rehabit a Cybex machine. And then when your career 433 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 3: was over, Jeff, what did he say, You became ci Cionara. 434 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 2: That's funny, Mike. 435 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 3: Mike Planning was great. So in eighty seven he got 436 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 3: traded from the Orioles to the Blue Jays. I'm sure 437 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 3: I've told you the story before, Jeff. So, and I'm 438 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 3: covering the Orioles for the Baltimore Sun. So like two 439 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 3: weeks after he's traded. A week after he's traded, he 440 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 3: WeGo the Orioles go to Toronto, and Mike Flanningan is 441 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 3: now pitching for the Blue Jays. I am walking to 442 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 3: the ballpark carrying a gigantic book bag. This is before 443 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 3: the SkyDome. I'm walking to Exhibition Stadium. Boy oh boy, 444 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 3: A long time ago, and Mike Flanning and sees me 445 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 3: walking and dragged and I'm a little guy dragging a 446 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 3: bunch of books Baseball Encyclopedia. So he stops his Blue 447 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 3: Jay rental car, which has got Blue Jays written all 448 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 3: over it, because his car hasn't arrived yet. So they 449 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 3: give each Blue Jay a Blue Jays rental car until 450 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 3: their real car shows up. And he's got Mike Bottiker 451 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 3: in the car with him, an Orioles pitcher, and maybe 452 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 3: Flanny's best friend. So we're driving to the ballpark and 453 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 3: Flanny says, this used to be Phil Neicro's car. Phil 454 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 3: Nicro was the very old pitcher who had just been 455 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 3: released by the Blue Jays. He said, this was Phil 456 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 3: Neicro's car. So I said, well, how do you know 457 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 3: it was Phil Negro's car? He said, I found his 458 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 3: teeth in the glove compartment. 459 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 2: That's so good. 460 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 3: Mike Flanngan was so good. He's one of my all 461 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 3: time favorite people. I miss him dearly all the time. 462 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 3: But as far as just providing context of things and 463 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 3: understand things and teaching me stuff, he also made me 464 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 3: laugh about as much as any player I've ever seen. 465 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 3: And last birthday Jeff nineteen ninety three, Pete Fairbanks was born. 466 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 3: He was one of our guests last year on on 467 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 3: National Reading Day. Remember your what's one of your takeaways 468 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 3: from Pete Fairbanks? 469 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: Well, he read the entire Harry Potter series and took 470 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: it away from his mother because she was reading too slow. 471 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 3: How old was he when he said, Mom, you're reading 472 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 3: six or seven or five? She was reading the Harry 473 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 3: Potter books to him when he was five and he said, Mom, 474 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 3: you're reading too slow. I'll take it from here. So 475 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 3: he read the Harry Potter books when he was five 476 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 3: years old. That's unbelievable. And remember what he told us, Jeff, 477 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 3: he could read if you know, if he was unencumbered 478 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,719 Speaker 3: by wives, children, like if he's on the road, in 479 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 3: other words, and he has a little bit of time 480 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 3: to kill, he would read a book today. That's how 481 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 3: much he loves to read. Pete Fairbanks. 482 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 1: I think on the record, he's the only guest we've 483 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 1: had that is younger than me. 484 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 3: Really, Oh, that's right. You were born in nineteen ninety three, 485 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 3: and he was. 486 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 2: Born in what my nineteen ninety three? He was December. 487 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 3: I'm honest, Yeah, very very good. So yeah, and and 488 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 3: what was what did he do all the time with 489 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 3: Colin Poche reliever and other bullpen all the crosswords? Right? 490 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 3: They did the New York Times crossword puzzle every day. 491 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 3: One of my favorite stories I've ever written. Colin Poche, 492 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 3: Pete Fairbanks and I. I'm sitting there asking a bunch 493 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 3: of a nane, stupid, annoying questions and they did. The 494 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 3: two of them did the New York Times crossword puzzle 495 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 3: in forty five minutes. I was so impressed. 496 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: All right, dad, do you have three Cards from the Bathroom? 497 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? We again, Jeff. This is just a take off 498 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 3: of three Coins in the Fountain. But I just loved 499 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 3: baseball cards and we talked about the whole tops thing 500 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 3: on this show. So the first guy pulled out today 501 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 3: was Stan Belinda. Now Stan Belinda is best known, unfortunately 502 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 3: for giving up the hit to Francisco Cabrera that ended 503 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 3: up sending the Braves to the World Series and sending 504 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 3: the Pirates home in nineteen ninety two. But Stan Belinda 505 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 3: great guy. Also, like grew up in a farm, so 506 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 3: they had a cow milking contest. This is back when 507 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 3: we used to do these things. Jeff and baseball and 508 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 3: a cow milking contest on the field at three Rivers 509 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 3: Stadium in Pittsburgh. And since you know Stan Belinda knew 510 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 3: all about cows and milking cows. Uh, he won the competition, 511 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 3: to which rich Donnelly, one of the coaches on the Pirates, said, 512 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 3: well he cheated. He was he was milking a cow 513 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 3: that gave skim milk and it came out a lot 514 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 3: easier than the whole milk, which typical rich Donnelly. He 515 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 3: made me made me laugh, right, And what was steak 516 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 3: did I make with Buster Olney, one of our guests. 517 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 2: Oh, saying that you milked a boy cow? 518 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 3: No, I said, and this cowie wouldn't give me any milk. 519 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 3: And Buster said, now you know that only a female cat. Sorry, 520 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 3: I grew up in Bethesda, Maryland, not on a farm. Okay, 521 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 3: that was really bad at me. I should have known 522 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 3: that at age sixty eight. Okay, Number two is bruce Hurst. 523 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 3: I always got a big he here is in a 524 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 3: red Sox uniform, very good left handed pitcher. But I 525 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 3: remember him even more when he went to the Podres 526 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 3: and back then Jeff the Padres had these brown uniforms 527 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 3: and he said, we look like we look like we 528 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 3: worked for ups Eddie. He was right. He was also 529 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 3: a really good basketball player, and I said he was 530 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 3: close to retirement. I said, what are you going to 531 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 3: do when you retired? You're going to play basketball? He goes, 532 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 3: I'm going to play as much as I can. He said, 533 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 3: only one category will count when I play basketball, and 534 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 3: that will be shots attempted. That's all I cat. 535 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 2: Can I get open? 536 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 3: Right? I think we can appreciate that. R last one, Jeff. 537 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 3: I'll give you a million dollars, and you owe me 538 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 3: a million dollars, but I'll give it back to you 539 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 3: if you can tell me the distinction of the story 540 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 3: I told about Glen Braggs in the nineteen ninety World 541 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 3: Series playing for the Cincinnati Reds. You will never get this, 542 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 3: but I told it to you once. I'll give you 543 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 3: a hint, Jef. Glen Braggs might be the greatest physical 544 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 3: specimen other than maybe Bo Jackson, that I've ever seen 545 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 3: in a major league uniform as far as being muscled like, 546 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 3: completely muscle like. He has the body of a body builder. 547 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 3: That's how impressive he was. What did he do in 548 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 3: the ninety World Series? Give me a hint, Jet He 549 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 3: broke his back. How did he do it? 550 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: Well, it has to be something he didn't slam it. 551 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: Did he not hit the ball? Did he swing so 552 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: hard he broke his own. 553 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 3: Batt Jeff in the follow through on his swing picture this. 554 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 3: He misses it and the bat comes and he hits 555 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 3: it accidentally, of course, on his shoulders, which are just 556 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 3: made out of steel. And the bat broke in half 557 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 3: on a pitch that he didn't even hit. So I 558 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 3: went down to him after the game in one of 559 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 3: the ninety World Series games, and I said, listen, I'm sorry, 560 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 3: I don't haven't seen enough of you play, but I 561 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 3: have never seen anybody do that. And he goes, well, 562 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 3: that's about the ninth time I've done that this year. 563 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 3: This year he broke nine bats over his back because 564 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 3: when he finished his swing, like the handle went across 565 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 3: his back and his bat broke in half. You know 566 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 3: how strong you got to be to do that, Jeff. 567 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 2: Really strong? That's insane. 568 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: Really Dad, Well, let's move on to our final two 569 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: seam heads of the year. Shout out to our friend 570 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: Mark Simon for a coming up with this great segment 571 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: idea for us in the beginning of the season, he 572 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: was our first seam. 573 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 3: Head, Dad, and we have total what Yes, And let 574 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 3: me explain again who Mark Simon is. Mark Simon is 575 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,959 Speaker 3: one of the great researchers in the history of ESPN. 576 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 3: When I first started there, he was one of the 577 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 3: primary researchers. He Jeff Bennett, There's so many others guys 578 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 3: that are so great, but Mark was one of the 579 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 3: first ones I worked with, and he's one of the 580 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 3: great seam heads ever. I mean, the stuff he knows 581 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 3: is just ridiculous, Jeff, Let's see if you can. And 582 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 3: he was our first seam head this year he came 583 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 3: up with the idea and we have dropped the ball 584 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 3: on this, Jeff, we have both bught the ball. But 585 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 3: let's see how well you remember what Mark Simon's gift 586 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 3: as a seam head. What could he do that like 587 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 3: that made him a seamhead? 588 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 2: Was it the final out of every World series? Yes, 589 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 2: he's Mark Simon, right, that was Mark Simon. 590 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 3: He could go back to like nineteen thirty eight or 591 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 3: some ridiculous length and he could tell you who made 592 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 3: the final out of every World series back like sixty 593 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 3: seventy eighty years. It's just unbelievable what he could do, 594 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,719 Speaker 3: so he recruited some other guys to do some seam heads. 595 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 3: And our first guy, and we'll just let Scott Kent 596 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 3: describe his seam headedness. Hi. 597 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 4: I'm Scott Kent from Solana, Texas, and I'm a seamhead 598 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 4: because I play a dice and card game from the 599 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 4: seventies called Sports Illustrated All Time All Star Baseball, and 600 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 4: I make new charts for new players using Baseball Reference 601 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 4: and stat Head. I'm here right now recording this at 602 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 4: the Western Hotel in Irving, Texas, where the Saber Convention 603 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 4: was held. 604 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 3: And I won the individual. 605 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 4: I won the teams trivia. 606 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: These are the kind of people that listen even if 607 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: you aren't as extreme as a Scott Kent. 608 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 2: We love having them a part of our family. 609 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 3: And our second one is Mark Armore, who will tell 610 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 3: you something about Satchel Page that I'm sure you didn't know. 611 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 5: I'm Mark Armore and I'm a seamhead because I like 612 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 5: to keep track of baseball things. A couple of years ago, 613 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 5: I did an independent investigation to try to determine who 614 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 5: actually scored MLB's one millionth run. Since then, I've been 615 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 5: working on a day by day pitching log for Satchel page. 616 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 5: So far, I have one and forty two games in 617 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 5: forty six states and seven countries. I love that baseball 618 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 5: is filled with these mysteries that people like me can 619 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 5: try to solve. More to come, I promise. I'm Mark 620 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 5: Armore and I'm a seamhead. 621 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: It's that kind of dedication, Dad, that Mark has that 622 00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: makes him an incredible seamhead. Love love, love these submissions 623 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: to Mark and Scott. Thank you for exposing your seamheadedness 624 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: here on. Is this a great game or what? 625 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 2: All right? Dad? 626 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,720 Speaker 1: Wrapping up today's episode with a brand new team Tim 627 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: All Christmas because, as we said, next week, we'll be 628 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,280 Speaker 1: part one of our two part Best of our Interviews 629 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty five, So we got to get our 630 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: Christmas celebration in nine days before the big holiday. 631 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 3: All right, So I did the All Christmas Team. Now, 632 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 3: just a warning, Jeff, it sounds a little bit like 633 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 3: the All Thanksgiving team because there are some crossovers here. 634 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,720 Speaker 3: There was no way around that, but we could really 635 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 3: stop after our catcher, okay, because our catcher is Steve Christmas. 636 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 3: That's his name. He played for the reds of the 637 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 3: White Sox and the Cubs. He didn't play much early eighties, 638 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 3: I think eighty three through eighty six. And Jeff, I've 639 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 3: always loved that there's never been a player in the 640 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 3: history of Major League Baseball whose last name game starts 641 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 3: with an X. But I think we should make a 642 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 3: change in that, because Steve Christmas could have gone by 643 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,720 Speaker 3: Steve Xmas any day. 644 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 1: Correct, and then he would have automatically been the most 645 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: amount of home runs. 646 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 3: Now check to make sure that Steve Christmas hit a 647 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 3: home run. Look it up on the internet while everyone waits. 648 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 3: Let me see. He didn't play very long in the 649 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 3: big leagues, and. 650 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 1: He hit one home run in nineteen eighty four while 651 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: member of the Chicago White Sox. 652 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 3: Steve Xmas, How about that, Jeff. 653 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 2: That's incredible for RBI's one home run. 654 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 3: Well, got a bit of a stretch calling of Steve 655 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 3: xmbis we actually changed his name. We can't do that. 656 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:55,399 Speaker 3: I see Christmas is our catcher. John Kenzie Noel of 657 00:35:55,440 --> 00:36:00,439 Speaker 3: the Guardians is our first baseman. Angel Martinez is our 658 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 3: second baseman. I really have to stretch to find a 659 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 3: third baseman. But Jim toy Ty played in the eighteen 660 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,280 Speaker 3: hundreds for the Spiders. He only played a couple of years. 661 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 3: But Jim toy you get toys for Christmas? Right, shortstop 662 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 3: is he played a bunch of positions. But Ed Holly 663 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 3: is our shortstop. Carol Hardy Carol right Turkey Stearns also, 664 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 3: of course on the All Thanksgiving team. Jesus Alou who's 665 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,280 Speaker 3: been on a bunch of our teams? Correct? And whose 666 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 3: favorite player is? 667 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 2: He gotta be Dan Patrick's favorite. 668 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 3: Right, And our DH is Jim Ferry spelled fa I 669 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 3: r e y. Jim Ferry is our designated hitter. Brad 670 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,280 Speaker 3: Lord of the Nationals is one of our pitchers. Keith 671 00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 3: Shepherd is another. And I considered putting Candy Maldonado on 672 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 3: the team, but I had to pair him with Bob 673 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 3: Kin so we could get Candy Caine put together. So 674 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 3: that was That's the All Christmas Team. Jeff, Happy Hanuka 675 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 3: to everyone, which is today begins today and to uh 676 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 3: and for everyone in a couple you know, in ten 677 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 3: days or so a week or so, Merry Christmas. 678 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 1: Well, just a couple of added ones that Pedro Felies 679 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 1: palis Navidad. 680 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 3: Oh that's pretty good. JT. Snow Yes, considered him. He's 681 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 3: on the All Weather team. I think John Kenzie Noel 682 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 3: is better than JT. Snow correct. 683 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 1: And this one is not not for consideration, but in 684 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 1: honor of the late great Ricky Henderson born on Christmas Day. 685 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 3: Ay, very good, Jeff, maybe. 686 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: An honorary honorary spot on. 687 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,240 Speaker 3: The very very proud of you for remembering that about 688 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,240 Speaker 3: the great Ricky Henderson. 689 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 2: So make sure. 690 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 1: Next week that you are tuned into is this a 691 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 1: great game or what you're still gonna hear from us 692 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: with all of our amazing guests that are going to 693 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:14,280 Speaker 1: make a quick appearance for highlights, like Steve Russian, Alan 694 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 1: Ryan Ripkin. 695 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 3: Steve Rushan talking about the Pope, the Pope being a 696 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 3: White Sox fan. I just yeah. And Ryan and Cal 697 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 3: Ripkin were absolutely great. Eduardo Perez of course kicked us 698 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 3: off during the regular season for the second year in 699 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 3: a row. We had so many wonderful, wonderful guests who 700 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 3: made us laugh. They we laughed and we learned from 701 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 3: all these people, Jeff, and it was just so much. 702 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:43,720 Speaker 1: Fun, including Umpire, Joe West, Tony Gwynn Junior, Jesse Cole 703 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 1: of the Savannah bananas. Oh, just and Harold Reynolds dad 704 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: a smash hit from a couple of weeks ago. 705 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 3: How many turnovers did Tony Gwynn Junior have in high school? 706 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 3: And what did his dad say to him when he 707 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,800 Speaker 3: got home? Because his dad was a great basketball well player. Also, 708 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 3: what how many turnovers to Tony Gwynn Junior have? Dad? 709 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 3: We can't relive all that's right, Okay, we. 710 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,720 Speaker 2: Can't just tell them. Story's people to listen. 711 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 3: Next week, yes, sorry about that, Okay, next week we'll 712 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 3: have about seventeen interviews put together eighteen nineteen whatever it is. 713 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 3: And then the following week, during New Year's Week, we're 714 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 3: gonna have nineteen more. So it's just gonna be NonStop 715 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,359 Speaker 3: laughs and things that you might not have known. That's 716 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,399 Speaker 3: what we imagine much about doing this. 717 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: Instead of running the clips, we just tell the story 718 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 1: like you were about to. 719 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 3: And then the next week, Jeff, what's my favorite line? 720 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 3: Tell us the story and if you won't tell it, 721 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 3: I will will, right, all right 722 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,800 Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for listening, and it's always 723 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 1: thanks for being a part of our family.