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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And we are back. This is the start of our

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Speaker 2: number two of the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: He is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lollie, and

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Speaker 2: it's time for a little fantasy football focus here. And

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Speaker 2: Matt has put together his preliminary running back rankings.

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Speaker 3: I need help. The running backs are brutal. There's not

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Speaker 3: many I want to stand on the table for see.

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Speaker 2: This is why when we just did our little mock draft.

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Speaker 2: You have the two guys that you have ranked one

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Speaker 2: and two. I described them like I think they're I

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Speaker 2: do think I like Breese Hall, who you have at

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Speaker 2: number three, But in terms of his health there's been

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Speaker 2: there have been issues.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I think Jon's a special player. I mean

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Speaker 3: moss back slash player.

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Speaker 2: I think next year, at this time when we're sitting

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Speaker 2: talking fantasy football, Bjeon or Robinson could be the number

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Speaker 2: one overall pick.

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Speaker 3: I think Bjon and Hall are really the only two

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Speaker 3: that have a chance to be to push the mountain. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean I must saying you're selling Breeshall short, but

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Speaker 3: I think Hall and Robinson are clearly two and three,

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Speaker 3: And if McCaffrey stumbles at all, one of those two

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Speaker 3: I think could go right past him in a hurry.

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Speaker 3: I said nothing around him last year.

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Speaker 2: The only thing that scares me about Breshall is some

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Speaker 2: of the injuries stuff. Sure he's been he's been nicked

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Speaker 3: Has one year on him too, which is a big

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Speaker 3: deal in running back. Yeah, now I need help after that.

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Speaker 3: It's just a mess to me. And I don't know

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Speaker 3: that I would where their adp are going that I

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Speaker 3: muld take these next couple guys. They're fine, but I

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Speaker 3: don't want to take them ahead.

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Speaker 2: Of some of the stud run Jamal J.

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Speaker 3: Brown. I mean, let alone, you know, the real high

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Speaker 3: end guys. I don't know if I'm taking a head

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Speaker 3: of Garrett Wilson, you know.

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Speaker 2: So filling out your top ten, you've got Jonathan Taylor

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Speaker 2: at four, Jamier gives it five, Derek Henry at six,

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Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley at seven, Travis atn at eight, Devin ah

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Speaker 2: Chan at nine, and Kyen Williams at ten.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and most analysts have had have Williams like five

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Speaker 3: or six. I just don't think he's that talented. He's

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Speaker 3: not that big, and they drafted one.

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Speaker 2: I think you're a little higher on Henry than I

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Speaker 2: would be too. I could be because again, if this

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Speaker 2: is a PPR league, idust.

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Speaker 3: If they were half yeah, well, I mean just so

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Speaker 3: it kind of balanced.

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Speaker 2: A little even at half. I'd still rather have Saquon,

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Speaker 3: Had Saquon at four when I did these initially, but

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Speaker 3: then I started looking into it. And do we all

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Speaker 3: of a sudden think that they're going to throw the

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Speaker 3: running backs? They never have. I mean, they have some

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Speaker 3: plan for this guy. They're not paying them the money

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Speaker 3: that they're paying out to just hand him the foot.

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Speaker 3: But it's not what Hurts does. And I also, I

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Speaker 3: mean tush push might go away, it might not. Here's

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Speaker 2: Think happened with the Eagles last year on the stretch. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think the quarterback Hurts was playing a little hurt

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Speaker 2: oh too, because of all the running that he does.

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Speaker 3: And I don't beat up.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they want him necessarily doing that. They're

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Speaker 2: going to hand the ball to Saquon Barkley. They're paying

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't want to.

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Speaker 2: They don't want to break Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 3: And some of the nerdy stuff with Saquan hasn't been

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Speaker 3: as good as you think though lately. I mean, he's

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Speaker 3: yards after contact and things like that haven't been great

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Speaker 2: An obvious Yeah, that line, they had no receivers. Everybody

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Speaker 3: So who's your four? I say, Barkley started there, and

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Speaker 3: younger guys. I might have Gibbs, say Gibbs is pushing home.

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Speaker 3: I might have Gibbs because I don't think Taylor is

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna throw any Richardson is is

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Speaker 2: inaccurate enough with They're trying to throw a touch passes

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Speaker 3: Right, and they don't care if he does run. I mean,

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Speaker 3: the hurt situation, I get it. But Gibbs is a

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Speaker 3: gets a bigger chunk than he had. He's gonna catch

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I love that they don't the entire

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Speaker 2: offseason now that okay, maybe he's the number two or

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Speaker 3: All those names you mentioned after Breese Hall, I just

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Speaker 3: keep looking at the negatives, and with Gibbs, I'm having

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Speaker 3: a hard time coming up with negatives. I'm might be

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Speaker 3: Travis at in at eight volume. I think there's a line,

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Speaker 3: but after seven, To be honest with you, I think

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Speaker 3: there's a gap from seven to eight. He got a

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Speaker 3: but he wore down the more. Yeah, and he's not

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Speaker 2: There were people talking about whether you know, Wow, the

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Speaker 2: Steelers made the wrong pick when they took they took

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Speaker 2: Naji Harris over at N. At that point, at N

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Speaker 2: was was out playing Harris.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: From that point on, they swept Harris way up played

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Speaker 2: Travis at.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that could be the case with him his

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Speaker 3: whole career though, his style of play, it's just itself.

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Speaker 3: He should be a dolphin, you know. Yeah, speaking of which,

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Speaker 3: I thought you could be a hard time for having

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Speaker 3: a chan that high.

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Speaker 2: I don't I'm warning up to it a little bit.

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Speaker 2: You know, if I do make a move like that,

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Speaker 2: it probably means I took a Bijon Robinson in the

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Speaker 2: first round, and I'm gonna pair him with it. And

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm gonna hope at.

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Speaker 3: Watch receiver a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's so many warm I'm gonna go into

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Speaker 2: it and assume a Chan is gonna miss five games.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's just be a couple of games. He

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Speaker 3: yards of carry. No, you know, I smaller backs have

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Speaker 3: a little easier time than they used to. But man,

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Speaker 3: none of them. I mean, especially if I get one

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Speaker 3: Okay, who's that Kenneth Walker? Yeah? Yeah, I think he's

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Speaker 2: Quite Frankly, I like him better than everybody after Barkley.

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Speaker 3: My concerns there's some good things and bad things. Is

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Speaker 3: Seahawks to me are more attractive for this reason that

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Speaker 3: many might think. Last year they ran the fewest plays

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Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty more plays, that's massive. Like I

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Speaker 3: have Smith Njigbow really high. I have Walker higher than most.

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Speaker 3: But it's a new coaching staff and it's a bad

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Speaker 3: old line, you know. But the coach, he's good.

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Speaker 2: When you start looking at where the head coach came from, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's a defensive guy. Yeah, history shows us a defensive

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Speaker 2: minded head coaches want to run the football. Secondly, look

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Speaker 2: at the teams he's coming from. Michigan and then Baltimore

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Speaker 3: And they've had a lot of success a lot of

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Speaker 2: I think they're gonna run, and I think I would

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Speaker 2: have him way harder. And he catches the ball well.

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Speaker 3: They just don't throw them enough, though at least the

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Speaker 3: last staff didn't. Charbon's in the mix, you know.

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Speaker 2: There, he's a real thing. But I think Walker is

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Speaker 3: Okay, oh I do too, I do do. Like, I

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Speaker 3: think he's one of the best running backs in the league.

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Speaker 3: To be honest with you.

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Speaker 2: At twelve, you have Pachecko.

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Speaker 3: He's so boring though. I mean he's boring is not.

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Speaker 2: The way to put it, because he is exciting, it's running,

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Speaker 2: but he's just he's an injury waiting to happen.

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Speaker 3: There's three or four of these dudes, like Mixing and Pachecko. Well,

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Speaker 3: I don't think they're great football players, but they have

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Speaker 3: very little competition on great offense.

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Speaker 2: Well, he sees more seven man boxes than Isaiah Pacheck.

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Speaker 3: I know, but boy, do I think he's gonna play

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Speaker 3: seventeen games? No?

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Speaker 3: I like what this coordinator did with Cook fourteen. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Like Jacob's and Mixing are next to each other on

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Speaker 3: purpose because they've had really good careers, but they kind

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Speaker 3: Like usually I take the backup on those kind of guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: in the other three positions, but man, I need help on.

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Speaker 2: These because if I had to trust one of those guys,

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Speaker 2: Mixing or Jacobs to have a box back year, I

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Speaker 2: think it'd be Jacobs.

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Speaker 3: I think that the way they gave him better money,

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Speaker 3: they gave him better money. I think it's a better

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Speaker 3: offensive line. Yeah, what about that. I think it's I

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Speaker 3: think both systems are good. Yeah, I think you're both

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Speaker 2: Situation and Yeah, and I think that the way the

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Speaker 2: system sets up in Green Bay as opposed to Houston,

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Speaker 2: we really didn't get to see a ton of Houston

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Speaker 2: running the football. I trust green Bay system is run

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Speaker 3: We speaking of Green Bay, it's your thoughts on Aaron Jones.

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Speaker 3: I'm higher on him than most putting him there, I

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Speaker 3: don't have a problem with that. He's older than people think.

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Speaker 3: He's still really good.

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Speaker 2: But they paid him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they and he moved the system.

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Speaker 2: He moved within the division, which tells me a lot too.

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Speaker 2: They know if he's falling off or not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like when Sies go Patrick Queen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know right, they know more about it than

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Speaker 2: any all the other teams that, oh no, he's he's

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Speaker 2: we still hate playing against him every year.

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Speaker 3: He's a handful. Yeah, gamescript doesn't matter, and I think

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Speaker 3: with Arnold, Yeah, no, I think he's properly uh at

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Speaker 3: twenty Jonathan Brooks that some of these like Nick Chubb Brooks,

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Speaker 3: have Chubb really really low because I don't expect them

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Speaker 3: But I was listening to something today. The people are

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Speaker 2: They're not being in a Super Bowls year twenty one,

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of yucky situations.

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Speaker 2: I'm surprised to a degree that you have Warren ranked

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Speaker 2: I just think in a half point PPR, I mean,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, would you take Nause ahead of him in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I might in a half point. Okay, I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: get it. Get at full point. Now we're you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're talking. One guy had sixty one catches,

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Speaker 3: And with considering the receiver situation, Warns might get more

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Speaker 2: But Harris might too.

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Speaker 2: Throw the ball all the backs more this year.

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Speaker 3: Which I would fully condone. By the way, it was fantasy.

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Speaker 2: Aside, there's this feeling though out there that somehow Harris

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Speaker 3: No, And I'm hoping this coordinator looks at BAMA film

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Speaker 3: I still thought they didn't utilize him to his route

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Speaker 3: You just put all the old all the old guys together.

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe, I mean, if it's some really good things

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Brian Robinson at thirty four, Devin Singletary at thirty five,

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Speaker 2: But I don't really out of that group, Zach Moss

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Speaker 3: And I don't like any of them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, ty Chandler, Miller spears or some of my young guys.

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Speaker 2: To be honest singletary.

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Speaker 3: What's his competition's zero zero. I just don't think he's

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Speaker 3: you should be in that neighborhood. I don't know. I

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Speaker 3: think the Giants offensive line might be a smidge better

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Speaker 3: I think it's going to be respectable now. So maybe

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Speaker 3: he's a guy who've never owned in fantasy because I

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Speaker 3: spot he doesn't protect that way he does, And that's

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Speaker 2: At forty right after Nick Chubb, you have Ezekiel Elliott

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Speaker 2: forty nine. I'm surprised you have quorum that a that

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Speaker 3: Dobbins well, Korm's with the rams Oh, I have al

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Speaker 3: that's my fault. Yeah, and I just think the Rams

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Speaker 3: I kind of like, because you don't get those dudes cheap.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like Rico dal Dell could end up

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Speaker 3: Like I might even move him up. You know, they're

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Speaker 3: just figured Zeke's going to get the the cheap touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a different coaching staff, but Algierra got

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Speaker 2: Super Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he wouldn't be as good as Bijean, but

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Speaker 3: he'd be great without Jeon.

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Speaker 2: Finishing off your rankings here, you have at fifty, Elijah

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Speaker 2: Jalen Wright fifty four, JK. Dobbins fifty five, Clyde Edwards,

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Speaker 2: Elaire can't quit him, Yeah, Bucky Irving at fifty six

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Speaker 3: I don't have This is my hardest conversation for all

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Speaker 3: the position groups so far, and I'll start to find favorites.

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Speaker 3: There aren't many favorites on that whole list for me.

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Speaker 3: Then I'm like, BOYD, I'm gonna take him a little

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Speaker 3: ahead of ADP. I'm sure I get him right. Yeah. So

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Speaker 2: There's some there's some really good duos this year, the

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Speaker 3: Who else am I missing there? I mean there's opportunity

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Speaker 2: Some of these of these situations like that, would this

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Speaker 3: I mean, even the not ones you would think about,

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Speaker 2: You're gonna be loaded at receiver, You're gonna great at quarterback,

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Speaker 3: And you kind of hope when your guys get hurt

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Speaker 2: A week or do you do you know TYJ Spears

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Speaker 2: I mean I could, I could if I had my

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Speaker 3: Oh that's a luxury. Yeah, that's not bad.

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Speaker 2: If I have Warren and Harris as my two running backs, yeah,

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Speaker 2: The ones I'm bringing up because or.

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Speaker 3: You know what Dowdell and Zeke.

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Speaker 2: You could do with Miami with most of than the chan. Yes,

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Speaker 3: But but the problem, but the beauty is if they

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Speaker 2: Still got the other guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and who knows if the Tennessee kid would

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Speaker 2: Problem is there's just so there's just a short number

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Speaker 3: I know, and then he gets hurt in your season

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Speaker 2: But if I take two guys from a very from

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Speaker 3: Other like Seattle would be expensive. Yeah, but you could

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Speaker 3: I mean Walker could be a blow up guy. We

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Speaker 2: And you I mean, you know you're spending you know,

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Speaker 3: He know, Yeah, maybe even later on Chandler, I might

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Speaker 2: You could actually try to do that with two different teams,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you can do it.

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Speaker 3: I could, but I don't think a lot of those

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Speaker 3: Gibbs is a chance, you know, but I'm talking about

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Speaker 2: little bit. Yeah, yeah, sure that you get him, but

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Speaker 3: I would mind of him both Bengals. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's nice to benefit from one of your guys getting

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Speaker 2: Worst thing is when somebody you got your starter gets

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Speaker 3: probably use both. Yeah, you know, it's not like a

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Speaker 3: true handcuff where you know you just have the only reason,

439
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Speaker 3: Like like Mitchell's not worth anything unless McCaffrey gets hurt, right,

440
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Speaker 3: you know, But these were the lot if anything right

441
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Speaker 3: right now, I really need to give running back more

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Speaker 3: thought because I don't I'm not confident this list. Very

443
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Speaker 3: Davis on there either. He's a just missed you know,

444
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Speaker 3: and he could be in the mix too. What I

445
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Speaker 3: do is I just type every name that I think

446
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Speaker 3: could be relevant, and I started putting numbers next to him,

447
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Speaker 3: and he's on the just missed area. But some of

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Speaker 3: these rookies I think will be prominent. Yeah, I mean,

449
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Speaker 3: once Jacobs wears down, Lloyd could be something core, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: But again, I am not confident with my running back

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Speaker 3: green Bay.

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Speaker 2: Green Bay is another perfect example of a team that

453
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Speaker 2: likes to use two backs.

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Speaker 3: Mm hm oh they have forever. I hope Dylan goes away.

455
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Dylan's redundant with Jacobs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like him more than I do. There's a lot

457
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Speaker 3: of teams like that, and this is how the league

458
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Speaker 3: is right now. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's going to do it for the Fantasy Football Focus.

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Speaker 2: We're going to take a break, Matt, and I'll be

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Speaker 2: back with more.

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Speaker 1: This He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolly. He is the Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: and this is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: Matt. Earlier in the show, the.

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Speaker 2: End of the hour number one, we went over Eric

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Speaker 2: at Holmes his MVT MVP predictions for each team in

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Speaker 2: the AFC. Let's go ahead and take a look here

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Speaker 2: now at the NFC and see if we how we

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Speaker 2: feel about these ones. For the Arizona Cardinals, he's got

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Speaker 2: Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 3: Certainly very much in the mix. I would think Harrison,

475
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Speaker 3: even as a rookie, could show up that way.

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Speaker 2: Really, I mean it's pretty on the side of that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Baker, Yeah, they don't have a lot there.

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Speaker 3: No one's going to be a fourteen sack guy. No, Yeah,

479
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,439
Speaker 3: it's still a pretty thin roster. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: For the Falcons it's Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I would bet Bijeon or even London or

482
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Speaker 3: maybe Pitts blows up if you gave me most of these.

483
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Speaker 3: If it was quarterback field, I would take a quarterback

484
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Speaker 3: this one, I would take the field. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean Jesse Bates, he could have a lot of

486
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Speaker 2: back probably not Chris Linstrom, but he's.

487
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Speaker 3: One of the great players. Yeah, great player.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, top guards in the league to get the ball

489
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Speaker 2: a lot.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: For Carolina, Derek Brown.

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Speaker 3: He's their best player, he's their best player.

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Speaker 2: But he's also a defensive tackle that gets like two

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Speaker 2: second games. Yeah. Like if you said the consider him

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Speaker 2: in my draft and we were.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I hear you. Like a game I sometimes play

497
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Speaker 3: and maybe we could do at some point too. Is

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Speaker 3: someone comes out of the genie, comes out of the

499
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Speaker 3: bottle and says, you can have one Carolina panther to

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Speaker 3: put on those Steelers, it'd be they're Brown, you know,

501
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Speaker 3: like he's their best dude, You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: But can I have Johnson back right right now? You

503
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Speaker 3: can't could be your pick. Yeah, absolutely, They're a team

504
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Speaker 3: that's not loaded with those options. They or not No.

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Speaker 2: Uh. For the Chicago Bears, Dj.

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Speaker 3: Moore, we'll do my receiver ranks for Fantasy probably Friday

507
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Speaker 3: or Monday or whatever. I think he suffers a little.

508
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Speaker 3: I think he does too, Like I still think he's

509
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Speaker 3: their best. But if I'm trying to get in the

510
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Speaker 3: mind of a rookie quarterback, I'm gonna throw the key

511
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Speaker 3: down a lot. Yeah, because it's easy. It's easy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's five yards downfield, down to him, he turns

513
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Speaker 2: around and gets you two more.

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Speaker 3: Could Montese sweat get you fourteen sacks?

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Speaker 2: Jalen Johnson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Their linebackers are pretty good too. They caall guys.

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Speaker 3: They have some options. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't know about Dj Moore with that one.

519
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Speaker 3: I don't think there's an obvious one there. But he

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Speaker 3: wouldn't have been my pick. For the Cowboys, there's three

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Speaker 3: to pick from. Michael Parsons. Yeah, Yeah, could be Dak Prescott,

522
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Speaker 3: Koulby Lamb, could be Ceed Lamb. They're all under anybody.

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Speaker 2: Else that it could be.

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Speaker 3: I mean if Bland again and has one hundred Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: and he didn't even went it last year for so No.

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Speaker 2: For the Lions, Jared Goff, but they've got a bunch

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Speaker 2: of Yeah, there's Hutchinson could be a mon Ross Saint Brown, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would definitely take the field over golf. Saint

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Speaker 3: Brown's gonna catch a ton of balls. Yeah, they hope

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Speaker 3: golf is throwing them all to them. Yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 3: could see.

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Speaker 2: You know, if Hutchinson has a fourteen sex season two,

533
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Speaker 2: that would go a long way for them.

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Speaker 3: I think it's gonna help Hutchinson. A ton is getting

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Speaker 3: Reader and McNeil and there. They just have some serious

536
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Speaker 3: beef on the inside that's going to demand attention.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're good football team.

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Speaker 3: They are.

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Speaker 2: For the Packers, it's Jordan Love.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's a little more obvious just because their

541
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Speaker 3: receivers really cancel each other out much more than like Detroit.

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Speaker 2: And despite all those high picks on defense.

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Speaker 3: M Brashaun Gary would be my best chance. But he

544
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Speaker 3: took a step back last year. He looked like he

545
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Speaker 3: was super promising before that. Who else? I mean, like,

546
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Speaker 3: I don't see bad players on their defense, But who's

547
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Speaker 3: the stars you know that could? You know? Really? Shine?

548
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Speaker 2: Alexander is a perfect example of the fluidity of the

549
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Speaker 2: quarterback position.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, they gave Zavier McKinney a nice buck, but he's

551
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Speaker 3: not a top five safety, you know.

552
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Speaker 2: For the Rams, Matthew Stafford.

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Speaker 3: Sure, and I think Kupp and the kupa hurt each

554
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Speaker 3: other a little for this bit. Donald's out of the

555
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Speaker 3: mix and that's about it. You don't like anybody on

556
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Speaker 3: their defense, no defense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for the Vikings justin Jefferson, Yeah, I could see

558
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Speaker 2: him being frustrated though throughout the course of the year.

559
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Speaker 3: Strange stat that just happened here on the way here

560
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Speaker 3: is over the last twenty years, first round quarterbacks that

561
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Speaker 3: weren't the first pick in the draft average one hundred

562
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Speaker 3: and ninety seven passing yards per game. We saw that

563
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Speaker 3: was Kenny, you know what I mean, Like that's you know,

564
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Speaker 3: like it was a fancy podcast and he was there's

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Speaker 3: a lot of work on rejections and he's like everyone's

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Speaker 3: projecting the Vikings to throw for like two hundred and

567
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Speaker 3: fifty two and seventy yards a game. There's very little

568
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Speaker 3: history of a quarterback doing that.

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Speaker 2: I want nothing to do with like Addison.

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Speaker 3: Addison's always been low for me. Hawk's gonna be missing

571
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Speaker 3: a ton of time. I do like Aaron Jones, and

572
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,360
Speaker 3: we talked about that earlier. I mean those are dump

573
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Speaker 3: off throws. Yeah. And even Jefferson when we get to

574
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Speaker 3: wide receivers, he's like fourth for me.

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Speaker 2: How about this thing, this little stat in the ten

576
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Speaker 2: games in which Jefferson played last year, the Vikings went

577
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Speaker 2: to and eight.

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Speaker 3: Really wow, I think they could be in for a

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Speaker 3: somewhat long year. Yeah. And their divisions are rough. I

580
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 3: think they're probably fourth of THEA got much better. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: For the Saints, it's Derek Carr.

582
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't take a lave if Derek Carr.

583
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Speaker 2: Is their MVP. The Saints had a really bad year

584
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Speaker 2: and everybody got fired.

585
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think the days of Kamara are

586
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Speaker 3: probably over. A lave screams to me being their best guy.

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00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I could see the Mario, the Mario

588
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 2: Davis or Tyram Matho. Yeah yeah, Cam Jordan might have

589
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 2: a little less, Yeah, but there are guys that they

590
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 2: have to have a kind of a resurgence exactly the oldmore.

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00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 2: That's an old team.

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Speaker 3: It's an old team. Yeah. And they haven't drafted great

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Speaker 3: and their own lines not really haven't drafted. That was

594
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Speaker 3: part of the Yeah, all.

595
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 2: Those picks that they just you know, kept trading.

596
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 3: Him, trading out for Penning and guys like that. I mean,

597
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 3: they have a lot of drafts where they have like

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Speaker 3: four picks.

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00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, totals, not guys still on the team.

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Speaker 3: They had four picks right right, right, and maybe two

601
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Speaker 3: of them are first round. Is Penning in the lavae.

602
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 3: But you got to hit on.

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Speaker 2: All those Yeah, for the Giants.

604
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 3: Is Brian Burns, Yes, because his stats will be better,

605
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 3: But if his teammates are voting, they'll vote for Lawrence. Yeah,

606
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, just was Cam Jorge or

607
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 3: you know, it's like he might not.

608
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 2: Even like Thimbido may be the guy that the benefits

609
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Speaker 2: from having Burns.

610
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Speaker 3: On the other side, I think Thibod is in for

611
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Speaker 3: a breakout. Yeah, I mean, and Burns will probably be himself.

612
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Speaker 3: It be worth the money and all that. But they're

613
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Speaker 3: the question good.

614
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 2: The other question you have to ask with that Giant's

615
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 2: fronts the same thing that you had to ask for

616
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Speaker 2: years with the last few years of the Sealers front.

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Speaker 3: How many leads are they playing with? That's hard, That's

618
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 3: gonna be hard. That's I mean, elite neighbors could be

619
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Speaker 3: in the conversation, could be there's not much else on offense.

620
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 3: I'd come up with no.

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Speaker 2: For the Eagles, it's Jalen Hurts. They get a bunch

622
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Speaker 2: of guys that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, both wide out. Sparkley could one of their Jalen

624
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 3: Carter could one.

625
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 2: Of those rookie corners that they got.

626
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think you passed those big name guys things.

627
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 2: Around, But if you know you're a rookie corner he

628
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 2: goes on has five interceptions, it becomes a household name.

629
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 3: If they draft last year's porter, yeah, you know type guy.

630
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Speaker 3: I think the Eagles can be really good. Yeah, I'm

631
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 3: really thinking they're going to be a contender. Contender. For

632
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:49,959
Speaker 3: the forty nine ers, it's Christian McCaffrey. They also both Yeah,

633
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 3: you know, are you Warner Emuel kind of hurt each other. Warner.

634
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 3: I mean, no, one's lacking star power there. I mean

635
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 3: Trent Williams might be their best player. Yeah. Uh.

636
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Speaker 2: For the Sea Hawks, DK Metcalf, hmmm, I could see

637
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker.

638
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm saying I would not take Metcalf. I think

639
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 3: when we get to my receiver, ranks. I think Smith

640
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 3: Najagba is ready to not be better, but he might

641
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 3: leave that team. In receiving. I think Walker's maybe the

642
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 3: best football player.

643
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 2: On off hecause he runs for twelve hundred yards and

644
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 2: ten touchdowns.

645
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, like yeah, no, I don't have a problem

646
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 3: with that. Byron Murphy is a rookie. Yeah, is a

647
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 3: sneaky one, just because of the Matta Bouquet role.

648
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 2: Being able to took Matt a book Age a couple

649
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 2: of years to get there too.

650
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Speaker 3: Uh.

651
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 2: For Tampa Bay, Antoine Winfield.

652
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 3: Okay, Evans Evans, Yeah, Evans had a monster year. Worf's

653
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 3: a great player. If he's on a win it didn't

654
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Speaker 3: you don't give the defense right. I would think Winfield

655
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 3: is the logical one on defense. Rashaw White could he

656
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 3: could be very productive again, he could catch seventy balls,

657
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Speaker 3: you know.

658
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Commanders Jaden Daniels, he's gonna be featured.

659
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be the guy.

660
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 2: But Jim Daniels goes out and runs for eight hundred

661
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 2: yards and throws for twenty five.

662
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 3: Hundred, he's not gonna be protected. Well no, I mean

663
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,239
Speaker 3: he's gonna be spotlighted and have to do things on

664
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Speaker 3: his own. I don't think any of their backs could

665
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 3: really take a ton off them.

666
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 2: No, not really.

667
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 3: The the tackles are the strength of the team. But

668
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 3: they don't they're not. Ye, they're not. They kind of

669
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Speaker 3: each other out. They're not special special you know. Yeah,

670
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 3: I guess that's It's not a huge ring endorsement in Washington.

671
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 3: It is not, you know. Yeah, some of these teams

672
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 3: have many more candidates. Yeah, a lot better candidates. Yeah.

673
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 3: If you had a Fred Warner on there, he'd run

674
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 3: away with it. Yeah. Absolutely can't even get on there.

675
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 3: You don't have that can't get on the field or

676
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 3: can't get in the conversation for Xamfreann hardly.

677
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 2: That is the That was Eric at Holmes NFC Team

678
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 2: MVP predictions. We already did the AFC in the previous hour.

679
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 2: TJ Watt getting that nod from Ed Holme in.

680
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 3: This one pretty low hanging fruit. Yeah, I mean he's

681
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 3: star player. Think he's I think he's won it like

682
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 3: four years in a row. There has been four something

683
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 3: along his life.

684
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 2: See you know that are three of the last four.

685
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 3: I can't okay, I think one in this a lot

686
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 3: of time. I think Minka one of two years ago. Okay,

687
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 3: he led the league of interceptions and then had none last.

688
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 2: Year, which is weird man good more than that this year,

689
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 2: and I would think, so we're going to get to

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Speaker 2: a break.

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Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: twenty one days away, Yeah, you might get.

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Speaker 3: A quick question for you taking to the team apparel.

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00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 3: All right, it's almost always the first round pick, but

708
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Speaker 3: Steeler's fifth home game. If you're in the press, box

709
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 3: looking around at Jerseys. Okay, who will be the best

710
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 3: represented rookie. The West Virginia factor for the second rounder

711
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 3: is looms large.

712
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 2: Oh, he certainly does, and that would be my pick. Okay,

713
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 2: and Steeler fans will love their centers.

714
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I say center from West Virginia. I mean that's

715
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 3: a big one. A lot of people from Michigan around here, though,

716
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 3: remand Wilson's pretty popular. Dude, Peyton Wilson could be very

717
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 3: pop Peyton Wilson could be very popular. But my my pick, O,

718
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 3: my pick is Zach Frasier.

719
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 2: We're gonna see a lot of seventy three run round.

720
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 3: I mean I think he starts week one two, I

721
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 3: think so. I think we don't know that.

722
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 2: But you know, it's a it's a jumper. We've seen

723
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 2: that in some of the offensive line rankings that have

724
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 2: come out, like you know, this is this or that,

725
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 2: Matt I want to just get we As we mentioned,

726
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 2: we're twenty one days out from the start of training camp,

727
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 2: we still have five unsigned first round draft picks.

728
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 3: Oh, are there? I have I never pay attention to

729
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 3: that anymore because it does usually just get done. Yeah.

730
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we have seen some guys kind of push

731
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 2: this indicator. They want fully guaranteed money, they want this,

732
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 2: they want that, some different stuff written in there.

733
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 3: So there a lot of issues.

734
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, So the five guys are number one overall pick

735
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, which is surprising because usually, I mean there

736
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 2: have been in years past where they had those deals

737
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 2: made before.

738
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 3: No that was picked. Right, So did he fully participate

739
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 3: in all the mini camps and all this? I believe?

740
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 3: So yeah, I thought, so, you don't have to be

741
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 3: under contract to do that. We'd heard if he didn't.

742
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 2: Also unsigned, those Romadunzi their ninth overall quick so both

743
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 2: of their.

744
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 3: Fabe this is a problem, not a yeah, player problem.

745
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 2: Then you have JJ McCarthy with the Vikings.

746
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 3: Why the quarterbacks standing out? It doesn't matter what position

747
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 3: you play. If you're right the tenth pick, you get

748
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 3: slots the slot more than the eleventh and less than ninth.

749
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 2: They also have DJ Turner, Dallas Turner, I should say unsigned.

750
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 3: Wow, these two NFC North teams have two first round

751
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 3: picks and don't have either one locked up yet.

752
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 2: The final unsigned first round draft pick is Bengals tackle

753
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 2: Marius Mims. He was the latest of those guys take

754
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 2: his eighteenth.

755
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 3: But the sticking point is on any of them. I

756
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 3: mean the fact that two teams make up four fifths

757
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 3: of this. Maybe it's just the Vikings Bears philosophy of

758
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,479
Speaker 3: some sort, which would make no sense to me either.

759
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 3: But what's the stop Mims and Bengals making the deal? Yeah?

760
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 3: I don't quite get that.

761
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't understand that.

762
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 3: It's just it hasn't really probably hasn't affected anything football

763
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 3: wise yet, not yet, but it could soon. It needs

764
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 3: to get done. Yeah. Interesting, I still don't understand what

765
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 3: some of these negotiations are out And I'm not being

766
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 3: hard on the Bengals, but the Bears and Bengals haven't

767
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 3: been two of the most free flowing teams out there.

768
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 3: You know, Chargers a couple of those Arizona over the years.

769
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 2: Names will be a tough one for me too, because

770
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 2: he's not sorry to start. Yeah, you know, he's kind

771
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 2: of going on scholarship this year and he needs he

772
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 2: needs a lot of work. That was my problem with

773
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 2: him in the draft process, Like he's not a finished product.

774
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 3: Yet, but the contract shouldn't matter. From what I wouldn't think,

775
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 3: He's just get a little bit more than the guy

776
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 3: picked after him. Yeah, well it was already locked up.

777
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 3: The pool was only.

778
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 2: So big, and now you know, you just got those

779
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 2: those guys, like, this is what we have left, this

780
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 2: is what you got to take.

781
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 3: So I'm sitting here thinking, like, but it doesn't apply

782
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 3: to these teams. Maybe there's a team or two that

783
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 3: needs to make, you know, the tight against the cap.

784
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 3: They might make, they might have to make some moves. Yeah,

785
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 3: but I don't know that any of them. I mean,

786
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 3: the Bears had a ton to spend, I don't. I

787
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 3: don't think the Vikings did. Though. The Vikings could have

788
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 3: been tight. Yeah, Vikings could have been real tight, especially

789
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 3: after signing Jefferson. Ye know, they've they've made a lot

790
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 3: of moves. So maybe they're just waiting to get one

791
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,439
Speaker 3: more deal done to free it up and sign from there.

792
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 3: I don't know.

793
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 2: You'd think, especially with two of those guys being quarterbacks,

794
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 2: you'd want to get them done as quickly as possible.

795
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 3: You don't want. Yeah, two first round picks and one

796
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 3: of them are quarterback. Yeah.

797
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 2: Aaron Shatz has put together a list here on ESPN

798
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 2: of the top twenty. The top are ranking each team

799
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 2: by their under twenty five talent.

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00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 3: It's a pretty big endeavor, it is. There's a lot there.

801
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 3: There is a lot of guys every and I like

802
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 3: that article.

803
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 2: The Steelers come in at this one on at twenty third.

804
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 2: I believe you're twenty twentieth, okay, twenty last year they

805
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 2: were twenty fifth. They're blue chip players, Roderick Jones, George Pickens,

806
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 2: notable players who have graduated out of that twenty five,

807
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 2: Dan Moore junior, Nogie Harris as well.

808
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 3: But have you been under twenty five last year, you'd

809
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 3: have been twenty five one of those. I forget what date.

810
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 3: I think it's Opening Day or there's some parameter. I

811
00:36:58,600 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 3: don't know what it is.

812
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,959
Speaker 2: But they've got some other guys here that you look at.

813
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 3: I think it's a little low for the stealer.

814
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 2: Troy Fatano twenty three, Yeah, Zach Fraser twenty three, Pickens

815
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 2: is twenty three. You do mention Porter, Roman Wilson, Keanu Benton,

816
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 2: Darnell Washington, Joey Porter junior.

817
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 3: I mean it's a case for most teams, but really

818
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 3: it's the last two draft classes. Yeah, and I think

819
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 3: those are both really really strong classes. Yeah, like they

820
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 3: should be higher this year with this is as well.

821
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: How many teams drafted guys that were twenty four already

822
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 2: or twenty five and you don't even get to include on.

823
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 3: This list and people might forget this or we have

824
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 3: new listeners. This was an old draft class. The last

825
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 3: two really the last two. Yeah, a lot of them

826
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 3: are six year seniors. Why come out of making money

827
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 3: and seven years in college? Yeah, COVID and all this

828
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:46,720
Speaker 3: weird stuff.

829
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,720
Speaker 2: The best seven years, seven years of college down the drain.

830
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 3: Usually they call them doctors. But no, I mean, next

831
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 3: year's class is supposed to get back to normal. But

832
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 3: I do think we won't see as many junior come

833
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 3: out as years gone by, because you know, you really

834
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 3: want to leave a beautiful campus where you can compete

835
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 3: for a national title and you're getting paid. Yeah, you

836
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 3: know it doesn't sound so bada basket weaving your last year.

837
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 2: And you know, looking here at the other AFC North teams,

838
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 2: the Browns come in at twenty eight. They were thirty

839
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 2: first last year, largely because they have an a first

840
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 2: round draft picks yeast couple.

841
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 3: Years and I'd say there's they're a team that she

842
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 3: was concerned and thirty two I think was Miami. Yeah,

843
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 3: I mean, I know, you're just a constra division, but

844
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 3: those teams are pushing it in now to win it

845
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 3: and don't have a lot to fall back from in

846
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 3: terms of who's the next generation. Yeah, that would that

847
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,240
Speaker 3: would scare me to death if I was a GM.

848
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 2: The Bengals come in at seventeen. Jamar Chase carries a

849
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 2: lot of weight there.

850
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I assume Burrows over twenty five. I am sure. Yeah,

851
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 3: I think he came out a little over. Yeah.

852
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 2: And the Ravens come in when I'm still looking here.

853
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 2: The Ravens come in their top ten, which is kind

854
00:38:58,760 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 2: of surprising.

855
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 3: I think they've Linderbaum, made Bouquet, Hamilton Flowers.

856
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 2: Wow, they're number three. So here's so they're number three.

857
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: Last year they were number thirty.

858
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 3: Wow. It wasn't like they had an unbelievable rookie class.

859
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 2: So it's their blue chip guys are Hamilton's A Flowers,

860
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 2: Tyler Linderbaum. They lose Patrick Queen and free agency.

861
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 3: Queen's still under twenty five.

862
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:32,720
Speaker 2: Huh Yeah, I'm Matta Bouquez, Yeah, he's over twenty five.

863
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 3: They're counting guys like Roger Rosengarten. I mean, I mean yeah,

864
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 3: I mean everyone has a second round pick. Yeah, I

865
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 3: don't know. I mean that's fine. Those three guys are good, yeah,

866
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 3: I mean like Steven's the coroner's probably under twenty five.

867
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 3: I can't put a lot of stock in on it,

868
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 3: like a Jabo or O Way. They've done nothing Simpson,

869
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 3: you know, replacing Queen. None of those guys are proven

870
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 3: right O. Line doesn't have youth that I'm psyched about.

871
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 2: I mean, is like a nice player is Hamilton, Flowers, Linderbaum,

872
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 2: is that Trump, Porter, Pickens, fra.

873
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 3: Jones or Jones? Either one. I think the Steelers four

874
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 3: through sevens much better than theirs. Two Yeah, I mean

875
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 3: big three. I guess we could have a conversation, you know, of.

876
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,240
Speaker 2: The players, all the players with might like Hamilton the best.

877
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's the one I trust the most. But three, well,

878
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 3: I like Linderbaum.

879
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 2: I don't know that he's going to be for everybody

880
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 2: in every offense because he's two hundred and ninety pounds,

881
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 2: And I think Fraser might end up being better.

882
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 3: He's better than home run, but Jones. The two Steeler

883
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 3: tackles are worth more than all the centers. Because they're tackles.

884
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 2: And pick Pickens is far better than Flowers.

885
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 3: I think so too. Yeah, I'm not sure why Baltimore

886
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 3: is that high. I don't think they've drafted great lately.

887
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 3: They always get the benefit of the Dame. The Baltimore's

888
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,720
Speaker 3: gotta be uptime. And I've said this on every outlet

889
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 3: I'm on because people have told me this that that

890
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 3: organization not manipulates, but is very media sat they are.

891
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 3: They they're the one team more than anyone else in

892
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 3: the league. So that's not even a knock.

893
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: The first thing, the first thing you see when you

894
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 2: pick up the Baltimore press release, as you always used

895
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 2: to see, was their games missed by injury.

896
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 3: Oh I remember this? So yeah, yeah, like.

897
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 2: No other team trumpets how many games they've had guys

898
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 2: missed with injury. Let the Ravens do, especially during a

899
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 2: bad year. Yeah, well, look at what we're five and

900
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 2: eleven right now, but look at all the injuries we had.

901
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 2: Because that doesn't happen to anybody.

902
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 3: Else, I would say, I don't even think they've been

903
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 3: hit all that hard with injuries over the years. I

904
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 3: mean not more so than the average. Yeah, I mean

905
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 3: Lamar's missed a little time here and there, but all

906
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 3: in all, that's not insane. Yeah, Andrews missed a little

907
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 3: you know, so yeah, no, but I do know they're

908
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 3: put it as kindly very media savvy. Yeah I wouldn't.

909
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just going to look here at Cincinnati's again,

910
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: because both of those are well behind that.

911
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 3: One is Higgins under twenty fives.

912
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 2: So they got Jamar Chase, Cam Taylor Britt and DJ

913
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 2: Turner there both there, Dax Hill, Mems, Chris Jenkins who

914
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 2: they drafted this year, by Miles Murphy.

915
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 3: There's that's not great. The Steelers ahead of that. Yeah,

916
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 3: say that's not great either. Chases Chase carries a lot

917
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 3: of weight there, I get it. But everyone else you

918
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 3: mentioned or unprid guy or rookie yea, you know, I mean, like, hey,

919
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 3: I like Mems as much as the next guy, but

920
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 3: you can't put a ton of weight on any of

921
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 3: the rookie.

922
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Again, if you ask me wh where they have

923
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 2: Fatanu or Mims, I'm taking Fatanu.

924
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,479
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, although they took Mems ahead of that's fine,

925
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 3: that's right choice, right, right, But I mean Miles.

926
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 2: Murphy really did nothing right.

927
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 3: Dax Hill they're moving positions, you know, like, I don't

928
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 3: know any of those guys are big time cornerstones. Yeah.

929
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 3: Who are the Browns that they listed? None? I know,

930
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 3: it's bad nothing because j Oka still count none shall pass.

931
00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 2: Well, they lose Jedrick Willis out of that group, gregs

932
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,479
Speaker 2: who is twenty four, okay, Martin Emerson is twenty three,

933
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 2: and Wilster cor Morris twenty four.

934
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 3: But those you're fine, You're fine, day one Jones, Okay,

935
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 3: you're reaching.

936
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 2: You know, Elijah Moore, Cedric Tillman.

937
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 3: Yes, and those guys just guys. Was gonna be a

938
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 3: fourth receiver.

939
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 2: No, they've they've belonged down at twenty eight.

940
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 3: Yeah they do. I mean I like something that much.

941
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean those defensive players are good,

942
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 3: but there's no foundational player. No, no, I mean again

943
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 3: they're finding there's also no quantity of the young guys

944
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 3: on that team. But hey, they got Deshaun Watson, so

945
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 3: they're all who were the very bottoms ones who after that?

946
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 3: Miami's twenty nine.

947
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 2: Was Philadelphia New Orleans at thirty.

948
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 3: New Orleans is scary. That's that's what was one of them.

949
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 3: Because we mentioned that earlier. The Raiders are.

950
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 2: Thirty one and the Dolphins thirty two.

951
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 3: Old and bad is bad. Yeah, you know, Raiders Saints

952
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 3: not good. It's problem not good. I mean, I bet

953
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 3: a team like Denver's not far off. They don't have

954
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 3: many young stars. Yeah.

955
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 2: If they gave Denver like Boone Nicks, like, come on, man,

956
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:04,959
Speaker 2: sure the first one they did.

957
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 3: They gave him both.

958
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 2: They gave Patrick certain and bow Nick as a blue

959
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 2: chip player.

960
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 3: And I bet certains about the age out. I'm sure

961
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 3: last year you can use them.

962
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 2: You know, Marvin Mims and Javonte Williams and Greg Dolst.

963
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 3: That's what you got. Williams a free agent after the year.

964
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 3: And you know right, Yeah, Quinn Miners was a guy.

965
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 3: He's he's would be great.

966
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 2: He's an older Yeah, he came out player coming out.

967
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's a rough one, absolutely, Matt. That's going

968
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: to do for the show today. Yeah, enjoy your fourth

969
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 2: and everybody enjoys fourth. Please be safe out there. Everybody

970
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,319
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971
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Speaker 2: can't hit the button to start playing Steelers Nation Radio.

972
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,839
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973
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Speaker 2: and move back.

974
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Speaker 3: Friday right, yes, we will be back Friday.

975
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Speaker 2: Uh so for my partner Matt Williamson, for Brian Lamartine

976
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Speaker 2: here on site keeping us on the air, I'm Dale Lalli.

977
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