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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Talking Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Priscilla, and now your hosts Isaiah Stanback, heck

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Speaker 1: My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's. Oh is this

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Speaker 1: special Thursday? Isn't it, gentlemen? Because we've had a historic

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Speaker 1: day in the Talking Cowboys universe. Because we are not

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Speaker 1: inside the SAWBC Mortgage studios. Instead, we're on the Tostitos

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Speaker 1: Fiesta Plaza at the Fun Town are V Tailgate. We

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Speaker 1: are gonna be out here podcast wise for the rest

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Speaker 1: of the day. However, this is the first time that

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Speaker 1: all four of us have been in the same place

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Speaker 1: at one time. Heckby and Isaiah have never met, and

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Speaker 1: we've never all four been in the same place at

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Speaker 1: one time before. But hey, we're here Talking Cowboys here

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Speaker 1: on a Thursday. We're gonna break down some recent moves

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Speaker 1: from the Dallas Cowboys here over the next forty five minutes.

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Speaker 1: Heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, Isaiah stand back, what's up?

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Speaker 1: Can I just say that's the most twenty twenty thing

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Speaker 1: I've heard this year. We've been doing the show for

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Speaker 1: how many months? And Isaiah just met just met, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that just happened. All that arguing, all that argument, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're best friends and they just met. There there's a

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Speaker 1: reason we put them apart from each other too. We

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Speaker 1: backed them up and put them on, put them on

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Speaker 1: the opposite sides. Is it. You're exactly right though, Like,

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Speaker 1: and I was thinking about this last night, just the

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Speaker 1: fact that Rob and I have been in the same

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Speaker 1: place at the same time for the first time this week,

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Speaker 1: all three of us were in the same place because

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Speaker 1: of pregame shows, the and then Hecma was the only

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Speaker 1: one that at least at this point had been out

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Speaker 1: of it. But but I had been in the same place,

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Speaker 1: Robin Heckman had been in the same place. And then

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Speaker 1: finally we've got all four together. So thank goodness for that.

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Speaker 1: And beautiful thing it is. Actually it's a ton of fun.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's chilly out here. I say it before

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Speaker 1: the show said it was philly weather, which is fitting

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Speaker 1: I guess since the Cowboys are going to go up

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Speaker 1: to Lincoln Financial this week. And man, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: lie they've got us set up. They've got some fantastic

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Speaker 1: and walk around our setups all in there. It really

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Speaker 1: has been a cool morning already. But it's also a

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Speaker 1: morning following some roster moves for the Dallas Cowboys, and

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Speaker 1: we've got to get into that. Both Don Tari Poe

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Speaker 1: and Darryl Worley released yesterday. Of course, the report came

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Speaker 1: out from Tom Pellicero earlier in the day that the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys were shopping those two guys but didn't ultimately come

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Speaker 1: up with a suitor, so they did end up releasing him.

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Speaker 1: They were not at practice yesterday. Rob just kind of

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Speaker 1: go through the move overall and what it does for

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy was asked directly before practice would they be there.

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Speaker 1: He didn't comment on it. He said, Everson Griffin's the

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Speaker 1: only move we're gonna talk about. And ultimately they decided

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Speaker 1: to make that deal. That report, those two cuts, that

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Speaker 1: report was accurate. A trade did not materialize, and they're

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Speaker 1: bring in some veterans that are proven, have good track record. Well,

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Speaker 1: But unfortunately the drive kind of is. Let the drive

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Speaker 1: this point is the right move for everybody involved. It's

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Speaker 1: the right move for Griffin, it's the right move for

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Speaker 1: some veterans that are proven. That's what you do, right,

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Speaker 1: a hundred. Why because I now have a chance of

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Speaker 1: And on paper, guys right, it looked good. But I

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Speaker 1: Zaton Martin at practice yesterday. Huge sign for the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: at least the fact that he's going to be back.

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Speaker 1: But do we really know where he's going to be playing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he wouldn't tell us yesterday. Yeah he didn't. He didn't

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Speaker 1: give any hints. Um. Although he did, he didn't make

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Speaker 1: it sound like he hadn't been a huge discussion to

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Speaker 1: play at tackle like consistently. I think he's an emergency

431
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Speaker 1: option out there. And when you look at the matchup,

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Speaker 1: he's played against Fletcher Cox a lot, and that's the

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Speaker 1: guy you point to first. I think in that matchup

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Speaker 1: he doesn't have a lot of production in terms of

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Speaker 1: status here. I think one and a half sacks, but

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Speaker 1: he's still if you watch the games, he's still getting

437
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Speaker 1: after the quarterback. He's Yeah, he's a large human being

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Speaker 1: and Zach is too, And that might be the best

439
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Speaker 1: place to put Zach this week. We'll see, Yeah, I

440
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Speaker 1: don't know. Heck, you might be able to tell me better.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if there's an edge rusher that scares

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Speaker 1: me nearly as much as what Fletcher Cox brings to

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Speaker 1: the table. So maybe this week guard for Zach Martin.

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Speaker 1: Next week you go up against Pittsburgh, you throw them

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Speaker 1: at tackle, going up against of course, the pass rush

446
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Speaker 1: that they possess. Man, it's getting to the point now

447
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 1: where this is going to be our tenth rotation at

448
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:20,520
Speaker 1: offensive line, ten different guys, right, yeah, ten, that's it,

449
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 1: and it's a it's a game with musical chairs. Man.

450
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Speaker 1: Kellen Moore hadn't slept this week, and Fletcher Cox is

451
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Speaker 1: probably the guy that's keeping them up at night knowing

452
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Speaker 1: what he presents. I love the fact that Zach Martin

453
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Speaker 1: is back, but guys, it's it's gonna come down to

454
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Speaker 1: the fact that offensive production is going to be necessary

455
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Speaker 1: to kind of nullify this this defensive front for the

456
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Speaker 1: Eagles because they are the strength of their team. So

457
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Speaker 1: h not only Fletcher Cox, you have Derek Barnett, Javon Hargraves.

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Speaker 1: They got a bunch of dogs that are gonna be

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Speaker 1: up there. And for a rookie quarterback like Ben Denucci,

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Speaker 1: he they are going to crowd the line of scrimmage

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Speaker 1: and do a lot of things to confuse him. Especially

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Speaker 1: you know you have a defensive coordinator that has a

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Speaker 1: rookie quarterback in front of him. I mean, come on, man, Isaiah,

464
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Speaker 1: you know how it's gonna go down they go, they

465
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Speaker 1: gonna heat that pan up. I think they're definitely gonna

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Speaker 1: hit that pan up. You know. I know we're talking

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Speaker 1: about how the interior presence is definitely, definitely necessary, um

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Speaker 1: and how you know Big Martin might want to go

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Speaker 1: up against Cox. But there's a dude on their team

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Speaker 1: by the name of Brandon Graham. There he is. He

471
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Speaker 1: just happens to be tied for third in the NFL

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Speaker 1: in sacks man. He has six sacks bad a matter

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Speaker 1: of fact, And you said you might want to keep

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Speaker 1: an eye on him, Isaiah, who's first first in sacks

475
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Speaker 1: is the guy from from Cleveland. We've seen him. And

476
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Speaker 1: who's the second guy? I think it was the guy

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Speaker 1: from the Rams, number ninety nine. I think Aaron Donald.

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Speaker 1: So Donald. So we've seen both of those guys. They've

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Speaker 1: had multiple like sacks, multiple sacks against stuff. So let's

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Speaker 1: just hope Graham is not the leader belcom Pack after

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Speaker 1: after Sunday night. My biggest fear, my biggest fear because

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Speaker 1: right now, as my understanding, and he dot did not

483
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Speaker 1: practice yesterday, sir, he's still in the prototill on the protocol. Okay, Um,

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Speaker 1: so that's not looking good. So then we have been

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Speaker 1: to Nucci. He's the Rickie, right U, the Rickie going

486
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Speaker 1: against Fletcher Cox, who was probably you could probably fit

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Speaker 1: two benda Nucci's inside of fat Fletcher Cocks. So if

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Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox is able to get pressure on the interior

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Speaker 1: where we've had some issues, right um, and then on

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Speaker 1: the outside, if we let this dude now by the

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Speaker 1: name of Graham get off like he's been doing all

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Speaker 1: season long, now we have pressure up the middle and

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Speaker 1: the outside against a rickie quarterback who's gonna be star struck,

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Speaker 1: who actually came in and play really well. But I

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Speaker 1: would imagine, um, you know, I remember my first time

496
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Speaker 1: seeing a large human being in the NFL. You know,

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Speaker 1: my eyes are a little big, you know, Julius Peppers

498
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Speaker 1: happening to walk by me one day and I was like,

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Speaker 1: that's not a human. So I would imagine he's probably

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Speaker 1: gonna have the same reaction against Fletcher Cox. So hopefully,

501
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Speaker 1: you know, his eyes don't get too big. But this

502
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Speaker 1: presents a problem for our old line. The other thing,

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Speaker 1: the problem they had last week with so many young

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Speaker 1: guys in there. I think Zach will help. Was beyond

505
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Speaker 1: just the past rush. It was recognizing what it is

506
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Speaker 1: Slinzer's rusher's coming free. I think it happened on the

507
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Speaker 1: safety with Schultz didn't pick up somebody, and then it

508
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Speaker 1: didn't happen a couple of other times, and so I

509
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Speaker 1: think bringing some experience back will help just recognizing that.

510
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Speaker 1: But you know what, Jim Schwartz, he's gonna bring pressure,

511
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Speaker 1: He's gonna bring five and six man rushes. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: bring it from different places. They've got to be got

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Speaker 1: to be on point sources smiling right now, knowing that

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Speaker 1: even we even when we go max protect, we're not

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Speaker 1: able to protect the more. No. So I mean, with

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Speaker 1: all of that being said, you have to put together

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Speaker 1: a game plan for a rookie quarterback that revolves around

518
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Speaker 1: got the running game we got, we gotta find it.

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Speaker 1: We have got to find some way to to get

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Speaker 1: some synergy, get some production out of our running game

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Speaker 1: because it hasn't been there. If it gets to the

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Speaker 1: point where we're throwing this a lot, man, this is

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Speaker 1: gonna be well, I guess we're already at deathcome four level. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: what would you define that's throwing a lot. I mean,

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Speaker 1: because I'm just wondering. Last game is probably the only

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Speaker 1: game where we haven't thrown a lot fifty times. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's fair. That's a lot. That's a lot. That's that

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Speaker 1: for a rookie. I guess what thirty five forty times

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Speaker 1: would be way too much. Thirty times would probably be

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Speaker 1: more than you'd one. He's gonna throw out thirty times,

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Speaker 1: he thinks, Yeah, yeah, he's talking about thirty times. They

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Speaker 1: get behind, they're gonna have to That's been the story

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Speaker 1: every game, absolutely, you know. And actually McCarthy was asked,

534
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Speaker 1: is it hard? Is it harder to game plan for

535
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Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback? Put together one for a rookie quarterback

536
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Speaker 1: instead of Andy Dalton? And he laughed, of course, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Say basically said, is that a joke? I supposed to

538
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Speaker 1: be laughing? Am I supposed to laugh at this? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Of course it's it's a little bit. That's nothing against

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Speaker 1: the Nucci, but it just is what. It's a rookie

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Speaker 1: quarter He didn't have any reps, any reps zero with

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Speaker 1: the first team offense and camp that I can remember.

543
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Speaker 1: He got a very few periods or the second team probably. Yeah,

544
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,199
Speaker 1: that Dalton's running the scout team up. What happened to that?

545
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: What happened to that? Fact? This is facts. When you're

546
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Speaker 1: we're a third man on a totem point at quarterback,

547
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Speaker 1: you're not getting any reps. No, you're getting snaps none,

548
00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 1: well from an assistant, you know, equipment manager, but you're

549
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 1: not getting real snaps in practice. We also haven't seen

550
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Speaker 1: him in a preseason game at all. That's the thing

551
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: is this is a rookie quarterback drafted in the seventh

552
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Speaker 1: round that hasn't had a preseason game, that's thrown three

553
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Speaker 1: career passes in a real life football Gameone was nice too, Yeah,

554
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: it was pretty nice. That was pretty nice. But kess

555
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: Case still made at the point that this is the

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Speaker 1: guy you're about to put behind center. But what goes

557
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Speaker 1: into preparing a guy for that, Because there's no real

558
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: life simulation that you can just throw him into. You

559
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Speaker 1: get him as much bitch blitz film as possible because

560
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Speaker 1: Swartz is gonna come after him. And when you think

561
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Speaker 1: about the personalities of defensive coordinators, he is probably one

562
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 1: of a few defensive coordinators that you like, you know

563
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Speaker 1: what he would probably he'll probably kick you in the

564
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Speaker 1: butt while you're on the ground. You know what I'm saying, Like,

565
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Speaker 1: that's him, That's that's him. That's that guy. Right, He'll

566
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Speaker 1: he'll put his his foot on your throat all day long.

567
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Speaker 1: So he's he is literally smirking. He kind of has

568
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Speaker 1: like that, that kind of arrogant little smirk to him,

569
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Speaker 1: and he is going to come all day long. So

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Speaker 1: when you're talking about trying to prepare a rookie quarterback

571
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Speaker 1: for that with a struggling offensive line and a struggling

572
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Speaker 1: offense and really just a struggling morale of the entire team,

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Speaker 1: that's a lot man, it's a lot um. You know,

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Speaker 1: I kind of just leaned back on my time when

575
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: I was in New England playing quarterback in in TV twelve.

576
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: Whenever you're gonna play the play the Jets, you know,

577
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 1: you just you just watched Blitz film. You just watch

578
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 1: Blitz film all day long because you know that's all

579
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: you're gonna face. So you try to get him on

580
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: the same page with his lineman and being able to

581
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: identify to Mike linebacker so that they can set their protections. Um,

582
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 1: and if you're gonna be wrong, be wrong together. But

583
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: everybody needs to be going in the same direction and

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00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 1: so everybody can be as protected as possible. Yeah. Now,

585
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: he did say he was going to be the first

586
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Speaker 1: one in the building in the last one out during

587
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: his press conference earlier. But is that going to be enough?

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Speaker 1: That's Michael. That sounds good. It does, right, I mean,

589
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Speaker 1: I mean, but I mean, I will say this about him,

590
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: and we watched we didn't see a ton of reps

591
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Speaker 1: in camp. He's got a great arm, he can make throws,

592
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Speaker 1: he's mobile, and I thought, you know, and it's not

593
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: a lot of reps in camp, but he does have

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Speaker 1: a poise back there. Yeah to him. Yeah, yeah, we

595
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: had it at James Madison, we got it. You know,

596
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Speaker 1: we saw it at Toyota Stadium a few miles down

597
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Speaker 1: the road. Absolutely. I mean, his future was in Frisco

598
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: one way or another. But I like that. I mean,

599
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: we've had situations where we've had to go to a

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00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: guy Antonio Romo, So maybe we have a little bit

601
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 1: of magic here and that I don't know. I'm just

602
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: trying to get more on that hope sandwich of mind.

603
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 1: But you know, things are gonna break down, and that's

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00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: the thing about de Nucci that you like his mobility

605
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 1: and he theirs capability, but he's gonna have to make

606
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 1: those short throws. He's gonna have to be on point

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00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: with that because, like you guys had alluded to with

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00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: the previous matchups, teams have been blitzing us crazy. And

609
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: when it comes down, you know, but he he We

610
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: don't have to see Buddha Baker again. But but Ross

611
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: Ross the cornerback turned safety uh and McLeod those guys

612
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: are going to bring pressure at the line of scrimmage

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00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: because you know that's what Schwartz likes to do. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And so we're gonna be stretched no matter, no matter

615
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: how you look at it. But it's gonna come down

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Speaker 1: to can d Nucci get out of the pocket and

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00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: get some yards for us? Yeah? And you know, if

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Speaker 1: you look at the Eagles run defense, it's been pretty

619
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Speaker 1: good except for quarterbacks have had success scrambling on him.

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Speaker 1: Some of the jet sweeps and stuff like that. They

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Speaker 1: they have not defended those. Well. I mean Daniel Jones

622
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: eighty yard. Now, the finish wasn't great, but he got

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Speaker 1: eighty yards out of it. So doesn't trip at the

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Speaker 1: twenty yard line rely on that. Denucci's not not Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's not gonna kill you in that regard. Um,

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00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: There's really not much that he can do to get

627
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: ready aside from just watched as much film as possible

628
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: and try his best to communicate um and be on

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Speaker 1: a sam accord with his office on line. Other than that,

630
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: it's football, um, and he's gonna get He is going

631
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Speaker 1: to get welcome into the NFL this week, Absolutely no

632
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: doubt about it. You know, we just hope that that

633
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Speaker 1: it we ends up on a positive side of things. Now,

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00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: with that even being said, I feel like it has

635
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: been an under talked about aspect of this football game,

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Speaker 1: is the fact that Ben de Nucci has has that

637
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Speaker 1: mobility and when whether it was his time at Pitt,

638
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: whether it was his time at James Madison, he can

639
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Speaker 1: effectively run the football. So how does that change the

640
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: play calling from Kellen Moore? Because Kellen Moore's a guy

641
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: who wants to throw a thirty plus times a game,

642
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Speaker 1: because that's what he's always done. However, it might take

643
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: a little change in a little adjustments. No, you don't

644
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Speaker 1: think so. Read option. We're ready got one quarterback and

645
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: dog on who's the guy behind who's the guy behind

646
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Speaker 1: start talking about him because Gary Gilbert, we're just making

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Speaker 1: a rush in a week now rush right, Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: did get Cooper Rush. Yes, sir, he's in COVID protocols,

649
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Speaker 1: so you have to that's also going to play a

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00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: part into Morris play calling because now you can't afford

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Speaker 1: for him to take a hit. It's serious, I mean

652
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: being serious. As an office of coordinator, you have to

653
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Speaker 1: protect the team and say, we have to give ourselves

654
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,959
Speaker 1: the best opportunity to win this ball game. And if

655
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Speaker 1: it's giving the ball to Zeke and and hoping that

656
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Speaker 1: we get some yardists, that's what it is. But we

657
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Speaker 1: can't have another quarterback go down. They literally cannot because

658
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Speaker 1: if they do, you're really in some trouble. It just

659
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Speaker 1: seems like it's gonna be hard for the receivers to

660
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Speaker 1: really get going in this game. We'll see, I mean,

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Speaker 1: because of the pressure that you're expecting. They ran a

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Speaker 1: lot more too tight I thought last week, and then

663
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Speaker 1: just to help with the protection, and it may be

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Speaker 1: more of a Dalton Schultz game. I think when they

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Speaker 1: had success before that, the drive before halftime where they

666
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Speaker 1: turned it over, they got the backs involved, they got

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Speaker 1: the guys out in the flat, and you know, it

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Speaker 1: may have to be that type of game where you're

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Speaker 1: just trying to get the ball out and again, like

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Speaker 1: Heckma said, try try to get the running game go. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And the thing about it is, when we talked last

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Speaker 1: week about the Washington football team game, it was important

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Speaker 1: that Andy got the ball out of his hands quickly.

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Speaker 1: The same thing's going to be applicable to de Nucci

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Speaker 1: this week. He's gonna have to get the ball out

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Speaker 1: of his hands and Ceedee Lamb is not gonna have

677
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Speaker 1: He cannot have a repeat game of last week because

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Speaker 1: he had drops that would have kept the drive going.

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Speaker 1: So it's gonna be important for our guys to help

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Speaker 1: their rookie quarterback. Really has seemed since the drop touchdown

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Speaker 1: pass from Michael Gallup that the receivers just haven't been

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Speaker 1: with the exception of Mamari Cooper, had been on the

683
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Speaker 1: same page. And I feel like that's a huge part

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Speaker 1: step aside in our final segment, We're going to talk

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Speaker 1: getting off to a better start. Of course, last week

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Speaker 1: no receptions for either Ceedee Lamb or Michael Gallup. I

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Speaker 1: think both of those guys have to make a bigger

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Speaker 1: whether that's within ten yards or just having a target

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Speaker 1: to throw to down the field, or maybe because the

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Speaker 1: out in that regard as well. But heckmo, when you

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Speaker 1: look at the wide receivers, is there something specific that

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Speaker 1: you can point to to say they did this well

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Speaker 1: early in the year, but they haven't done it as

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Speaker 1: much so lately. I just think that was a better

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Speaker 1: communication with Dak, which you would expect right now. These

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Speaker 1: guys were on the same page and that was something

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Speaker 1: that was missing when you talk about the receiving cord lately,

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Speaker 1: just not having that communication. And we've talked about that

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00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: at length about how you know Andy Dalton on the

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00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: same page. But I mean, if you if you if

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Speaker 1: you're just looking at Michael Gallup, I mean the fade

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00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 1: routes were curls. Everything that we wanted was there for Dak.

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Speaker 1: Now it's finding this rhythm again with a third string quarterback,

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Speaker 1: which I'm sure they hadn't had a lot of opportunity

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Speaker 1: to work with him either. But there are matchups. When

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Speaker 1: you talk about the Eagles that upfront defensively, yes they're strong,

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Speaker 1: but on the back part of their defense, maybe that's

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Speaker 1: where we're able to expose some mismatches and Craven LeBlanc,

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Speaker 1: one of their nickel corners number thirty four, is a

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Speaker 1: guy that I'm looking to get Ceedee Lamb mashed up with.

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Speaker 1: And also any of our guys Cooper, uh and Wilson.

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Speaker 1: Any of these guys, I think in the slot it's

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Speaker 1: where it's gonna be. Because he's denucis gonna be under pressure.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna have to find receivers. But if he gets

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Speaker 1: any time, because they're gonna press us, he'll have an opportunity.

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Speaker 1: And I believe these guys are like cover three zone

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Speaker 1: defense basically, so it's gonna be there, but he gonna

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00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 1: have to find it. Yeah, my biggest I have two

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00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 1: things that I want to look out for this game,

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Speaker 1: and that's one is going to be Kenny's receivers get

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Speaker 1: off a pressure, off off a press man. I think

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Speaker 1: I think we are going to see some cover three zone,

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Speaker 1: but I think it's mostly gonna be man coverage. I

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00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: think they're really gonna just challenge um not only the

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Speaker 1: receiver's ability to get off the ball, but also de

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Speaker 1: Nucci's ability to get through the ball accurately. I think

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Speaker 1: one thing we saw last week was Andy Dalton was

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Speaker 1: under pressure, and you saw the ball coming out hot right.

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Speaker 1: So even though he was hitting his target and these

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00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: guys were dropping the ball, it's coming out hot right.

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Speaker 1: So it was it was it's not a catchable ball

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00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: as we like to refer to. UM. It wasn't a

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00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: lot There wasn't a lot of touch on it. So

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00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: these guys the ball was getting to us marked, but

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00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: that you know, these guys was going through their hands

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00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: or bouncing off their chests. UM. And now going into

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00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: this game, I think they're gonna see the same thing

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00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: where these guys are Pressure're gonna have he contested off

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00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmatrom the get go. Denuci's gonna be

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00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: under drest and he's gonna have to get the ball out.

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Speaker 1: Now can he Can he deliver a catchable ball? U?

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Speaker 1: Can he deliver a ball that's on their front shoulder

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00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: instead of their back shoulder? Is the ball's gonna be

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Speaker 1: hip in the air? Time opportunities for interceptions also? And

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Speaker 1: something else My second point is what what kind of

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Speaker 1: patience of these guys have with Denucci. You come out

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Speaker 1: of the game when you're playing with the backup to

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Speaker 1: the backup, UM, you know, you go in there, You're like,

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Speaker 1: you know, we're on We're in this together. They're in

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Speaker 1: this together, you know, for the first five series and

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Speaker 1: then it's like, dat man, do I want to pay

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Speaker 1: attention to see how frustrated these guys get and if

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Speaker 1: they continue to rend routes with the same intention uh

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Speaker 1: and the same the same diligence as they would in

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Speaker 1: the beginning of a game. Yeah, Kella Moore said, the

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00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: biggest thing for him, he's he's got to get in

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Speaker 1: the huddle and he command this. He's got to show command.

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Speaker 1: He's got to show that he knows what he's doing

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00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: and he can communicate to everybody, like you said, make

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00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: the make the U know, make the calls pre snap.

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Speaker 1: With the Phillies secondary, I think Maddox for them is

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Speaker 1: getting healthy. I don't know if he'll be back in

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Speaker 1: the starting lineup. That would help. They've had Mills, They've

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Speaker 1: been kind of moving things around. They've had Mills at

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Speaker 1: the corner. Maybe he goes back to safety and maybe

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00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 1: that shorts things up for them a little bit. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think the Arizona game give credit to

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00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: their d bees man. They did a great job in

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00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: coverage and some of the pressure from from Arizona just

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00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 1: came from from you know, tight windows for Dalton to

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Speaker 1: throw through. Last week, the pressure was so heavy it

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Speaker 1: was hard to really evaluate the receivers in my opinion.

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Speaker 1: And again they went twelve personnel a lot to try

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Speaker 1: to help things up upfront. Um, so we'll see. But

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00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: yet you guys are right, I mean, I'm just curious

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00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: to see what the timing is like with the Nucci

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Speaker 1: and the wide receivers. Just it's just the simple fact,

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Speaker 1: it's reality. It hasn't been there, and it's and and

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Speaker 1: to Heckman's point, it took a work in progress with

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Speaker 1: Dalton and the receivers. Despite the work in camp that

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00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: they had. Uh, Denucci doesn't have that. He doesn't have anything,

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Speaker 1: you know, a background with the wide receivers. So it's

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Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna be live and see how it goes,

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Speaker 1: you said, and I said, Ross, but I've meant in

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Speaker 1: meals as far as the safety. Yeah, now you mentioned

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00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: twelve personnel, and of course with the forty Burger offense

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Speaker 1: and everything that you did drafting see the Lamb, you

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Speaker 1: can have as many fantastic wide receivers on your roster

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Speaker 1: as possible, but if you can only put two on

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Speaker 1: the field, ultimately that takes away your advantage and having

848
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: three really good wide receivers. And I'm not I'm not

849
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 1: referencing trade rumors or anything, but I'm just talking about

850
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: the fact that if you're having to chip on blocks

851
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: with two tight ends and you're having to to have

852
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 1: some help extra upfront, it's gonna make it tougher on

853
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: these wide receivers to make an impact. Now, you can

854
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 1: always rotate those guys in, but is that one of

855
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: the big reasons why we didn't see either Michael Gallop

856
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: or a CD Lamb with a reception and instead saw

857
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: a couple to go to Dalton Schultz just based off

858
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 1: of the formation in the scheme. You just answered your

859
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: question a little bit. I guess there you go. I mean,

860
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: you got the guerrilla glue that that tight into your

861
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: tackle in order to even get into your offense. So

862
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 1: you talk about Graham, I mean you talk a relentless

863
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 1: pass rush here that is one of the eleven year

864
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: vet and he hadn't slowed down at all, and so

865
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: on the other side of him with Barnett, they just

866
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: have they what they try to do over and over

867
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: is collapse the pocket, and if they can get to

868
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: Danucci and to him, that's where our offense start to

869
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 1: fall apart. And so you know, having those having that

870
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: connection with your offensive line and being able to make

871
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: those calls at the at the line of scrimmage is

872
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: going to help him. Just stand up right, How daunting

873
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: of a task is forbidden to Nucci. I mean we've

874
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: already talked about how you get him ready, but specifically

875
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 1: getting in the huddle, sounding confident, being able to call

876
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 1: a play, and then also going up against that pass rush.

877
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: It's not an easy task. That's not the that's not

878
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 1: the part I worry about as a quarterback stepping into

879
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: that situation your game, you're ready, you're ready to ball.

880
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: The issue comes when you're ready to ball, you're confidence.

881
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: You're stepping in there and the guys, the guys that

882
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: are looking at you don't look confident. The guys that

883
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: are looking at you look frustrated, they look irritated, they

884
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: look hopeless. Right, and you're up there, you're motivated. You're

885
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: trying to get grown men to be motivated to do

886
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: their job efficiently, and that should not have to be

887
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: his responsibility. He should have to go in there and

888
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: do what he's supposed to do as a quarterback. He

889
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 1: shouldn't be having a motivate other grown men, and I

890
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: hope that's not the case, but when that is the case,

891
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: it's very daunting. That's when things get bad. And that's

892
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 1: why I say pay very close attention to people's body language,

893
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: Pay very close attention to people's body language, because that

894
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: gets really demoralizing. Man, When you throw a ball to

895
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: a guy and he could he could have made that

896
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 1: extra step or made an extra reach to catch the ball,

897
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: and he just starts shaking his head and walking back

898
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: to the sideline throwing his hands up, that's when you

899
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: get discouraged. And that's what you know, in general terms,

900
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: that's what Mike McCarthy's talking about throughout the team. You

901
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: can't let bad plays or some hard drive, some rough

902
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 1: drives affect you the rest of the ball game. And

903
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: I think I think we're seeing that. We're seeing it

904
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: on defense too. You know, when things aren't going well,

905
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: guys they haven't reacted to it as well as they

906
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: need to, and that's why things get worse of the

907
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: course of the game. Have you seen poor body language Yeah,

908
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: is that something that we've already been alluded to at

909
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 1: this point, right, That's that's been our m O. Something happens,

910
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 1: we get down, guys just go in the tank because

911
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, now we're down by two point. There's

912
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: no way we're gonna get back. Yeah, two scores, how

913
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna get back out of there. You saw it

914
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: from any Dalton last week. Any Dalton put some balls

915
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: on the money and guys dropped them. In his head,

916
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 1: He's like, come on, fellas, if I was DAK, you

917
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: wouldn't dropped that, you know what, Like literally, that's the

918
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 1: first thing that comes to your mind, Like, come on, fellas,

919
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: Like I'm doing what I can. I'm gonna drest. I'm

920
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: struggling over here, like when I get you the rock,

921
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 1: you gotta catch this thing, right, And he get they're

922
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 1: frustrated because they're like, mandak with it. That would have

923
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: been a little bit softer ball. And he's like, man,

924
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: with the ball touched, you know what I'm saying. So

925
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: you get this little, you know, nonverbal confrontation that you

926
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: have going on, and it makes it very difficult man.

927
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,919
Speaker 1: And then guys go to the sideline frustrated. They're talking

928
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: to the coaches talking about how man I'm open on this.

929
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: It gets bad really quickly. So everybody has to have

930
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: a positive arale. Everybody has to have the understanding, has

931
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,240
Speaker 1: to have the old old New England. At this New England,

932
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: but the old New England's mentality, it's like, guess what,

933
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: no matter what happens, we're in a good position and

934
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: we're good. We just gotta go out there and do

935
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: our job play by play, muda chains and some something

936
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: positive will happen. It's got to go to your playmakers.

937
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: At that point, you gotta have somebody on that offensive

938
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: side of the football step up. I don't know who

939
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 1: it would be. I don't know if I even have

940
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: the right to say who I think it would be.

941
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: But at the same time, you've got to have somebody

942
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: step up. In multy moments, all of them. Yeah, they're

943
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: they're in a bet in that regard. They're in a

944
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 1: better position than the Eagles because Eagles have nobody. Wins

945
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: doesn't have his tight ends, he doesn't have his wide receivers.

946
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 1: At least Denucci has really talented guys to work with. Now,

947
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 1: can the whole operation work together, and like Isaiah said,

948
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: can the communication and the rapport be there in this

949
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: short period of time we're about to find out. Yeah,

950
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: that's a very good point. We got some wind coming

951
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: in here. Oho, there goes the canopy above us. But

952
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 1: it's just in time for us to get off. That's

953
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: my cue, get out of here here for Talking Cowboys

954
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: as we are out of time. Unfortunately, we'll be back

955
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: tomorrow nine fifteen. Wow. For Heck Harrison, for Rob Phillips,

956
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,760
Speaker 1: for Isaiah stand back, and for Chris Beam and everyone

957
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: who pulled off this fun town RV tailgate here at

958
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,280
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