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Speaker 1: I'm gay and my wife doesn't know. This is okop,

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Speaker 1: home to the craziest true stories on Earth. I'm Sophia

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Speaker 1: and Riley. What's a fun fact. I don't know about you, Cube,

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Speaker 1: that is a fun fact. I don't need proof though,

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Speaker 1: Oh like a jug Okay, I've juggled in front of you.

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Speaker 1: You saw me juggle at the YouTube thing. I don't

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Speaker 2: I've actually thought about buying one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, buy it, prove it so prior Putt thirty three

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Speaker 1: zeer zero says, my wife and I have been together

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Speaker 1: nine years and married for seven, but I know that

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Speaker 1: I'm gay.

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Speaker 3: Mmm.

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Speaker 1: Oh, this is treading and I don't know about this.

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Speaker 1: I've never been attracted to another woman other than her,

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Speaker 1: but I've been attracted to lots of men. I've never

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Speaker 1: been in a sexual relationship with a man, but if

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Speaker 1: I wasn't with my wife, I know I would be.

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Speaker 1: My preferences when I'm by myself have only ever been

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Speaker 1: over men. Well, but it's strange. My wife is my

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Speaker 1: soulmate in the most absolute sense. It doesn't matter that

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Speaker 1: she's a woman. I'm so in love with her mind,

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Speaker 1: she could literally be in anybody and I would love

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Speaker 1: and worship her. Even being with their sexually is incredible

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Speaker 1: because it's her. I know this makes no sense, and

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Speaker 1: that's why I can't tell her. She would think she

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Speaker 1: isn't enough because she isn't a man. But she's the

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Speaker 1: other half of my soul and I could never ever

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Speaker 1: hurt her or be without her. I think every inch

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Speaker 1: of her body is beautiful, and she lights me up

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Speaker 1: like no other, Like no other human ever could. She

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Speaker 1: completes me. And I know I won't need to be

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Speaker 1: with anyone else, but I know no one will ever

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Speaker 1: believe me. Is it possible to be gie except one woman?

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Speaker 1: If so, that's what I am. Lol. Edit, I realize

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Speaker 1: I was about to say. I realize now I'm probably

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Speaker 1: on the bisexual spectrum somewhere instead, and I'm content with that.

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Speaker 1: I don't really need a label. Oh and to those

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Speaker 1: calling me a pervert, a degenerate, a fetishist, etc. For

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Speaker 1: being attracted to men, weird? Why are they saying that?

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Speaker 1: I suggest you try replacing the hate and your heart

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Speaker 1: with love. It's worked out well for me. This is so.

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Speaker 1: There are some relevant comments, but that's so cute, and

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Speaker 1: that is absolutely a thing, like where you are like

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Speaker 1: ninety nine percent attracted to men and then you're, you know,

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Speaker 1: the last half is a one woman.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Is that that better for the relationship.

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Speaker 1: I think it's super cute that he's like, I'm I'm

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Speaker 4: Bar Yeah, well no mencoln still hit on him. Oh

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Speaker 4: that he's not like he wouldn't be approached by women. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean they'll be approached by men. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No. I think that people have this like very you know,

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Speaker 1: like especially for men. I mean it goes both ways,

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Speaker 1: but for men, it's if the idea that is like

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Speaker 1: if you're bisexual, oh, you're just like you're just attracted

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Speaker 1: to men, which is not the case obviously, And I

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Speaker 1: feel like he's probably gotten. He he fears the comments

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Speaker 1: of like, oh, you're not actually attracted to your wife,

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Speaker 1: You're just you're just getting which is not the case.

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Speaker 1: Like he is attracted to his wife, and he says

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Speaker 1: that mm hmm, yeah, he's just primarily attracted to Oh shoot,

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Speaker 1: I'm calling my friend by accident.

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Speaker 2: I'm on the pod and ask them what they think.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I would say, absolutely is a thing

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Speaker 4: I question, do you still want to be with her?

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Speaker 1: It seems like he really does.

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Speaker 4: If you're gay and you still want to be with her,

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's a problem.

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Speaker 2: Don't cheat. Yeah, I know that you like men, but

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, If you still want to be with her,

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Speaker 1: then you're good. Don't listen to what anyone else has

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Speaker 1: you know, make it clear for other people, because labels

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but there is some realm you don't need a label.

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Speaker 1: I'm anti label. I'm not anti label. That's not true.

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Speaker 4: Don't applyty couples ignost a label?

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Speaker 2: Sorry, that apply to couples? The label thing?

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Speaker 4: Oh no, fuck what that's not fair. Well, if two

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Speaker 1: Well, if both of them don't want to be labeled.

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Speaker 1: But if one of them wants to label it and

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Speaker 1: a conflict of labels.

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Speaker 2: Keep reading.

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Speaker 1: Relevant comments. I view sexuality as a spectrum. You might

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Speaker 4: I thought that, Mathew, Yeah, it's common math.

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Speaker 1: I guess as long as you're happy with your wife

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Speaker 1: and she is with you, that's what matters. So true,

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Speaker 1: op says, hijacking this top comment to say thank you

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Speaker 1: to everyone who has shared their own personal experiences. It's

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Speaker 1: good to note that this is seemingly more common than

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Speaker 1: I thought. It makes me think I need to focus

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Speaker 1: to have my wife and her love. Oh there's a

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Speaker 1: This is so cute. Is there a sexuality that is

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Speaker 1: like gay but accept one woman, or like by but

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Speaker 1: specifically where the gender doesn't matter in one instance. It's

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Speaker 1: like kind of pan sexual, but only for one instance. Update.

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Speaker 1: I'm gay and my wife doesn't know TLDR. I told

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Speaker 1: her that's great. I'm glad that you'd like you were

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Speaker 1: It's so sweet. Those of you said she probably knew

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Speaker 1: more than I thought were right. She was sort of surprised,

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Speaker 1: no plans to explore it. But it's such a relief

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Speaker 1: she said that's not necessary right now, but it's good

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Speaker 1: to know it's an option in the future. Thank you

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Speaker 1: to everyone who left kind and critical but constructive messages,

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Speaker 1: and no thank you to the homophobes. Looks like everything

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Speaker 1: will be okay. Ah, what happy ending. I'm glad we

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Speaker 2: You're welcome. Yeah, you're welcome.

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Speaker 1: That one was just sad. Yeah, so what was happy

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Do you guys like that kind of content? You

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Speaker 2: guys want sad content?

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Speaker 1: You want sad or happy or a mix of both.

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Speaker 2: Or a mix of both. Yeah, it's my question.

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Speaker 1: No, it's the same way. I feel like. It's like

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Speaker 1: literally just apply it to a straight relationship. You know,

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Speaker 1: So it's just that like they're attracted to women, but

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Speaker 2: But doesn't matter. Yeah they're sexuality.

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Speaker 1: No, because he loves his wife and so after that,

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Speaker 2: Now we don't have anything to say about because everything

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, like, there's no there's no a hole.

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Speaker 1: We're just like everyone lovely.

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Speaker 4: Looks like we're going to have to read a sad

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Speaker 1: Would I be the a hole if I kicked my

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Speaker 1: Yikes, kick him out, kick them out, kick them all out, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: kick them out. So delete it says. My brother is religious.

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Speaker 1: He was having financial problems, so my wife and I

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Speaker 1: That's so considerate of you. Obviously that was a bad idea,

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Speaker 1: considering letting them be unhoused for two reasons. Our son

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Speaker 1: I told him. No, that's never going to happen. Not

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Speaker 1: only would my wife kick all of us out and

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Speaker 1: Nothing yet, we haven't learned about the sister.

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Speaker 2: That's where I got lost. She said harm, and I

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Speaker 1: Who's his harem?

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Speaker 4: You no idea? Not the thirty six people that applied

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but they're they're not officially a harem. They're

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Speaker 4: Heard it here first.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just because it's not fair to her to be like,

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Speaker 4: You need to tell her. She's like freaking out, she's accusing.

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Speaker 2: You of things.

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Speaker 1: She thinks you're cheating on her.

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Speaker 4: Everything you're doing makes sense of why she feels this way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think it's totally fair to want to

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Speaker 1: I don't want to force myself back into her life,

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Speaker 1: I contact her. I'm willing to wait until she is

438
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Speaker 1: ready to see me again. What I did was wrong

439
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Speaker 1: and impulsive. I'm currently at Sam's house and he keeps

440
00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,120
Speaker 1: telling me that I deserve better. I'm happy he's here

441
00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:43,760
Speaker 1: for me, but some of the things he's saying about

442
00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,120
Speaker 1: my wife and feelings are making me want to leave.

443
00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,280
Speaker 1: I know he cares about me, but I don't know

444
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Speaker 1: if he has the right intentions. I'll update you guys

445
00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,520
Speaker 1: if anything happens. Always he's saying like say, I'm trying

446
00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:58,239
Speaker 1: to get with the me. Yeah, Sam might not not

447
00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:03,520
Speaker 1: have your pull in my eyes, dam might not have.

448
00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you have better Sam?

449
00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,040
Speaker 1: Sam's heart might not be in the right place.

450
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Speaker 2: Did you have funnier Sam?

451
00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,480
Speaker 1: Get us funnier Sam who hosts a podcast show.

452
00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? Do that? That's what you really need your life.

453
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

454
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Speaker 1: I don't know if he was cheating.

455
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Speaker 4: I don't know he wasn't.

456
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Speaker 2: Yeah he was.

457
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Speaker 4: I think maybe he was just trying to think, say, yeah,

458
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Speaker 4: I won't forgive myself. I can't forgive myself for her

459
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Speaker 4: thinking I did cheat on her. Yeah, he's staying out late,

460
00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:29,720
Speaker 4: hanging out at the bars.

461
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Speaker 1: Not yeah, and maybe just like the lying to her

462
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Speaker 1: about his feelings about the relationship.

463
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Speaker 4: With exactly exactly.

464
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Speaker 1: But there's an updates. I read all of the angry

465
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Speaker 1: comments and feedback, and as much as I want to

466
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Speaker 1: say it was harsh, it wasn't. It was honestly the

467
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,520
Speaker 1: reality check I needed. After I ended the post, I

468
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,960
Speaker 1: left Sam's house. I see now what he was trying

469
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Speaker 1: to do, and it was disgusting. What I am and

470
00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,000
Speaker 1: was doing is selfish. I really do care about my

471
00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,399
Speaker 1: wife and I want what's best for her. I should

472
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Speaker 1: have thought about her emotion sooner and spoke to her

473
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Speaker 1: about what was going on. I want to give her time,

474
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Speaker 1: and I'm planning to go ahead with a divorce. I

475
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,639
Speaker 1: really do care about her, but I know I have

476
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Speaker 1: to let her go. I'm planning on cutting all contact

477
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Speaker 1: with Sam. I want to do the right thing. After

478
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,680
Speaker 1: I post this, I'm going to text my wife about

479
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Speaker 1: the situation and apologize. I don't want to go back

480
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Speaker 1: home until she's ready to see me. If I do

481
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,880
Speaker 1: end up going back home, it will be while she's

482
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Speaker 1: at work. I know she probably isn't taking this well,

483
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 1: and neither am I. I don't want to force her

484
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Speaker 1: into seeing me, even if that includes her cutting all

485
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Speaker 1: contact with me. Oh, even if that includes her cutting

486
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,879
Speaker 1: all contact with me. I'm going to talk to my

487
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 1: therapist tomorrow. Thank you for all the comments, even the

488
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 1: rude ones. I really appreciate the feedback and I understand

489
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 1: now what I did wrong. And there is one relevant comment.

490
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Speaker 1: Indecent Guests says, you're not a victim. You made a choice.

491
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 1: You chose to be gay with your mate. I hope

492
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Speaker 1: your missus find someone who will satisfy her sexually and

493
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,160
Speaker 1: raise your kids, right, Opie says, I don't have kids,

494
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Speaker 1: and I know I'm not a victim. That was a

495
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:03,120
Speaker 1: weird comment. Chose to be gay with your mate, That's

496
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 1: not even what was happening. He literally his friend was like, hey,

497
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Speaker 1: let's figure this out. And it probably he probably did

498
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 1: have like ulterior motives, but that's not what it was.

499
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 1: It was not what this was for op Op was

500
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Speaker 1: trying to figure his sexuality out and his friend seemingly

501
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 1: was there for him, and then when he realized he wasn't,

502
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Speaker 1: he cut him off. I don't like that comment. I disagree.

503
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Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't even think OLP was saying

504
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Speaker 1: that he was the victim. He was just saying, like,

505
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Speaker 1: I realized this, it was not I should have con Yeah, yeah,

506
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,920
Speaker 1: I think op absolutely should have come forward sooner, and

507
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 1: it would be selfish. If he remained in the relationship

508
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 1: knowing the stuff that he knows and.

509
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Speaker 4: Trying to Yeah, the slip up was he just hasn't

510
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Speaker 4: communicated everything. But the reason why he hasn't communicated everything

511
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Speaker 4: because he hasn't like figured it out.

512
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Speaker 1: He hadn't figure he thought he was by and the

513
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Speaker 1: second that he figured out he wasn't, he you know,

514
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Speaker 1: I actually no, he didn't come forward. That was the

515
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Speaker 1: second that he figured out he wasn't. He should have

516
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Speaker 1: you know, come forward.

517
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

518
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 1: It shouldn't have taken his wife, you know, seeing him

519
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 1: a wife. Friends, Yeah, clubs very that's the issue there,

520
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 1: That is the issue. Yeah, man, boy boy sad, you know, sad,

521
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 1: some happy, some one happy, yeah one happy, mostly sad stories.

522
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Speaker 2: The first one kind of ended happy.

523
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Speaker 1: It was the first one.

524
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Speaker 2: Uh his wife was a lesbian.

525
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that one did. Yeah. Yeah, they after a saga,

526
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Speaker 1: it ended happily.

527
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Speaker 2: A lot of loss.

528
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you won't be at a loss for sticking

529
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Speaker 4: around and watching more of our episodes.

530
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Speaker 1: Yeah, stick around find out not not in this episode though,

531
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Speaker 1: because this episode is done.

532
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Speaker 4: One's done, This one's over.

533
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Speaker 1: We don't have anything more for you. But if you

534
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Speaker 1: love us. Make sure to subscribe.

535
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Speaker 4: We love you and see you tomorrow. This is an

536
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Speaker 4: episode for Deep within the Archives.

537
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Speaker 5: Time for okop ree lash.

538
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Speaker 6: Am I the a hole for refusing to pay my

539
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 6: son for babysitting.

540
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Speaker 4: You could not be.

541
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Speaker 5: Let's let's see what we got here.

542
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Speaker 6: See how many babies is he sitting on? What's the

543
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Speaker 6: hourly rate? Forty rush babies eighty babies per minute per minute?

544
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Speaker 4: Damn it.

545
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Speaker 6: Have you ever seen that video of like of this

546
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 6: woman like crushing watermelons with her butt and she's like

547
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 6: going like bam, bam, bam bam.

548
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Speaker 4: She's just smacking him down with that.

549
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 5: Oh just like yeah, like squat in it, squatting on it.

550
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Speaker 3: Wow, ass explosive, explosive, ass explosives squats.

551
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Speaker 5: I would take that work out.

552
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Speaker 6: I started to go back to the office on Friday

553
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Speaker 6: so I can pick up my eleven year old son

554
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Speaker 6: from school.

555
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Speaker 4: Got my twenty year old son, so.

556
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Speaker 6: I offered to give him gas money like forty bucks

557
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Speaker 6: to pick him up and stay with him until I

558
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Speaker 6: get home a couple of hours later. Right sure, because

559
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Speaker 6: Monday is a holiday, and managed to leave work early.

560
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Speaker 4: I came home and no one was home.

561
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Speaker 1: Suspiciously.

562
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Speaker 6: I texted my twenty year old to see where they were,

563
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Speaker 6: and he said they were at the Coffee Bean by

564
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Speaker 6: my son's school. I'm like, okay, fine, that's guy. I

565
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 6: guess that's where all the cool middle schoolers hang out

566
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Speaker 6: on a Friday. That's hilarious, like low key, that's kind

567
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Speaker 6: of like true.

568
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Speaker 5: It makes sense.

569
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Speaker 4: I mean, depending on where you live, it's like a Starbucks.

570
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Speaker 5: Yeah, something they didn't know.

571
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Speaker 6: I was home, so I decided to pick my left

572
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Speaker 6: yrold up and do a fun dad Sunday like bowling

573
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Speaker 6: in the arcades.

574
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Speaker 4: Nice. That sounds cool. That is cool.

575
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Speaker 6: I also, forty bucks for for gas money is like,

576
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Speaker 6: that's over gas money.

577
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Speaker 5: It's pretty good, especially is it's probably a recent story.

578
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Speaker 6: Actually, when I got to the Coffee Bean, my twenty

579
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Speaker 6: year old was on his phone, as twenty year olds

580
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Speaker 6: are discussed. He was surprised to see me, and I

581
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 6: asked where Logan was, because I was literally, what Opie

582
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Speaker 6: is paying the twenty year old to do? Yeah, he

583
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Speaker 6: said he might be behind the cafe.

584
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Speaker 5: He might be behind the cafe.

585
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Speaker 6: I asked him, how does he not know where his

586
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Speaker 6: brother is and if he ever was picked up. He said, yes,

587
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 6: he was picked up, but Logan and a few of

588
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 6: his friends wandered to the back.

589
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Speaker 5: Well imagine, he said, maybe.

590
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I might have that's like sass, that like a

591
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Speaker 6: kid would do.

592
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Speaker 4: Maybe.

593
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 6: I asked what they were doing in the back, and

594
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Speaker 6: he sarcastly told me he did not know because he

595
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Speaker 6: wasn't there. Man, this kid is a sass.

596
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Speaker 5: Great a over here.

597
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Speaker 6: I go around back and see my eleven year old

598
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Speaker 6: kissing a girl. I asked him what he was doing

599
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Speaker 6: and he just says nothing. I told him to get

600
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Speaker 6: his ass in the car. My son said they were

601
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Speaker 6: just pretending to guess for that, I found him guilty

602
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Speaker 6: of kissing and perjury.

603
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Speaker 2: Oh god.

604
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Speaker 6: My twenty year old asked for the money that was

605
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Speaker 6: owed to him, and I said, I'm not paying him

606
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Speaker 6: for shit. I told him that his brother was making

607
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Speaker 6: out with a girl behind the cafe.

608
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Speaker 4: Nice.

609
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Speaker 6: Oh my god, that's not okay. He's eleven. Eleven year old.

610
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Speaker 6: Boys needs supervision. That's what I was paying my twenty

611
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 6: year old for. He said he was going to call

612
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 6: their mom, Sash my ex because he was owed the money.

613
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 6: I told him to call her and don't forget to

614
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 6: tell her what Logan was doing, because I will, and

615
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 6: that obviously changed his mind.

616
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Speaker 3: Oh man, this dad went from cool dad to too

617
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 3: much the tool.

618
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Speaker 5: I mean, I think.

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Speaker 6: Eleven year old's like kissing a girl is fine behind

620
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Speaker 6: a coffee bean.

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Speaker 3: That's it's okay, it's okay. You know it is like

622
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 3: it's it's fine. I mean like it's like massively awkward.

623
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Speaker 3: I think, like I think from my perspective in like

624
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 3: middle school, but like when I think about it from

625
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 3: a perspective of a parent, I'm like, oh, that's disgusting.

626
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 3: What like an eleven year old kissing an eleven year old?

627
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 4: Is that disgusting?

628
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Speaker 5: It's just it's just weird. It's just very weird, especially

629
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Speaker 5: your child. I like, I get it, but like it's

630
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Speaker 5: just the sight of it, if I if.

631
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Speaker 6: I yeah, I get My first kiss was like really

632
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 6: in high school, but I did. We played kissing tag

633
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 6: and like when I was in kindergarten. That sounds like

634
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 6: they're like getting after they're making out, you know what

635
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 6: I mean.

636
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Speaker 3: Like, I mean again, I wouldn't I would not do

637
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 3: I would not react the way.

638
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Speaker 4: Oh no, I don't know.

639
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 6: Would you dab your son up? Yeah, that's my boy. Yeah,

640
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Speaker 6: do you know what's next?

641
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 4: Son?

642
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 3: What coming home with me? Because you're done kissing this girl.

643
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Speaker 3: Ah see. I saved myself