WEBVTT - NBA Free Agency kicks off with a couple huge developments

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<v Speaker 1>On this episode of the Heat Check.

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<v Speaker 2>It's my favorite time of the year. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. It's the tea is the hottest right now.

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<v Speaker 2>This summer is hot, but free agency is hotter. He

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<v Speaker 2>checks here to keep you up on everything happening as

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<v Speaker 2>of eleven thirty Eastern Standard time Sunday night. We will

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<v Speaker 2>also drop a bonus interview with NBA insider Trevor Lane,

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<v Speaker 2>who maybe a little bit late on a possible deal

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<v Speaker 2>between the Jeremy Grant of the Portland Trailblazers and the Lakers,

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<v Speaker 2>but hopefully not Anthony. Teams are getting rearranged right before

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<v Speaker 2>our very eyes, So drop that motherfucking beat that should

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<v Speaker 2>be Rihanna. Free agency began at six pm on a Sunday,

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<v Speaker 2>which is truthfully very fucking weird for it to begin,

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know when. When the Draft is two

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<v Speaker 2>days and then you've got days between.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't actually know why.

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<v Speaker 2>But there are two really huge developing stories right now

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<v Speaker 2>and a couple of big free agent signings that we.

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<v Speaker 1>Have to get into.

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<v Speaker 2>There are two players leaving their teams and making huge.

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<v Speaker 1>Waves throughout the NBA and doing so.

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<v Speaker 2>The first is Paul George Clippers put out a tweet

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<v Speaker 2>which was, I'm sorry for your loss, but I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>reading all that. Like that was what I saw on

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<v Speaker 2>their twitter. I was like, that's a full memo and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what it said. I just know it

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<v Speaker 2>was way too many words for me to read all that.

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<v Speaker 2>To say, the headline was all we needed to know

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<v Speaker 2>is that Paul George will not be returned, even though

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<v Speaker 2>he wants to stay in the West Coast, even though

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<v Speaker 2>the Warriors couldn't get a deal done for him, even

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<v Speaker 2>though he's probably not going to the Sacramento Kings, even

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<v Speaker 2>though he's not going to the Lakers, He's gonna go

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<v Speaker 2>to the East Coast, but he will not return. And yes,

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<v Speaker 2>we will get into the worst trade in the history

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<v Speaker 2>of basketball, which is that one?

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<v Speaker 1>That one. There just is nothing worse. There just is

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<v Speaker 1>nothing worse.

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<v Speaker 2>Shay Gilgess Alexander, who is top three MVP voting last year,

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<v Speaker 2>led the league in steals, led the league in deflections,

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<v Speaker 2>averaged thirty points per game, one of the most consistent

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<v Speaker 2>players in the league, a great rebounder, a great playmaker,

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<v Speaker 2>and then seven.

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<v Speaker 1>First round picks.

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<v Speaker 2>So like to be honest, if Shay was to be

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<v Speaker 2>traded right now, considering what we saw for Michale Bridges, like,

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<v Speaker 2>would that be twenty first round draft picks essentially like

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<v Speaker 2>seven for the first rounds that you got, and then

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<v Speaker 2>Shae whatever Shay is worth, Like, Shae's got to be

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<v Speaker 2>worth seven, right, that's fourteen picks. I just they're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get the They have the right to swat picks in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty five, which is the most loaded class that

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<v Speaker 2>we've seen since probably the Scoot Brandon Miller Wemby class,

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<v Speaker 2>but maybe even more stacked than that.

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<v Speaker 1>For now, he is on the move.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks like he might be ending up in Philadelphia,

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<v Speaker 2>which is also fucking crazy because the Clippers sent two

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<v Speaker 2>first round picks to Philadelphia to get James Harden and

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<v Speaker 2>now if Paul George goes to Philadelphia, that only benefits

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<v Speaker 2>Philadelphia in the sense that the Clippers are now only.

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<v Speaker 1>Much worse team. Wow. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Philadelphia still might find a way to fuck it up,

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<v Speaker 2>but I expect this to resolve itself in the next

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<v Speaker 2>couple of days. Jesus Christ, the Clippers are a dumpster fire.

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<v Speaker 2>They also picked up Kevin Porter Junior, the guy who

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<v Speaker 2>beat the shit out of his girlfriend and was out

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<v Speaker 2>damn league and has been playing for Olympiacos Like not

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<v Speaker 2>a joke, that's where he's been playing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's up with Rip Jerry West Rip.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all I'm gonna say. The other big news right now,

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<v Speaker 2>Klay Thompson is leaving the Warriors. I thought I'd never

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<v Speaker 2>hear that ever. Klay Thompson will no longer be a

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<v Speaker 2>splash brother, Steph Curry and Clay will not finish their

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<v Speaker 2>careers together. Why turns out Klay Thompson's in his feelings again.

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<v Speaker 1>Shocking.

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<v Speaker 2>Klay Thompson feels disrespected by the Warriors, so he's willing

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<v Speaker 2>to take less money to play for another team than

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<v Speaker 2>the team that drafted him. He won all those rings

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<v Speaker 2>with one of his best friends is on the team,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're still gonna pay him twenty million even though

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<v Speaker 2>they're in the luxury tax and maybe hardcat but no,

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<v Speaker 2>he'd rather be paid thirteen million to play for the

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<v Speaker 2>Lakers because he felt disrespected the team that gave them

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and ninety million dollars over five years after

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<v Speaker 2>he tore his ACL and then was out for a year,

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<v Speaker 2>played in an unsanctioned scrimmage and tore his achilles. He

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<v Speaker 2>was out for two and a half years, never was

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<v Speaker 2>the same player, and they still stood by him. He

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<v Speaker 2>can't stop pouting because he wants a MAX contract even

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<v Speaker 2>though he does not deserve it, and even though he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't deserve that one after he tore his acl That

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<v Speaker 2>is not a good look for Clay.

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<v Speaker 1>This is bad.

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot wait to hear what Draymond Green is gonna

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<v Speaker 2>say about this to shit tomorrow. Who is in the

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<v Speaker 2>Clay Thompson sweepstakes? The Dallas Mavericks for one, through Orlando

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<v Speaker 2>Magic for two, and now the Clippers and the Lakers

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<v Speaker 2>and the Sixers.

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<v Speaker 1>What's crazy is by the way, I saw a.

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<v Speaker 2>Tweet from back in twenty nineteen where WOJ was saying

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<v Speaker 2>that Klay Thompson was willing to explore an offer with

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<v Speaker 2>the Clippers.

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<v Speaker 1>If they didn't give him his max back then.

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<v Speaker 2>Klay Thompson's been strong arm in the Warriors for five years.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know where he's gonna go, but I tell

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<v Speaker 2>you what, I don't even know if he's gonna be effective.

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<v Speaker 2>It does mean the end of an era for Golden State,

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<v Speaker 2>though it I just never thought it would happen, honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>And for my man, Mike Dunleavy Junior, you've been fumbling

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<v Speaker 2>the bags or you lost out on I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>You could have gotten a deal done with the Spurs

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<v Speaker 2>for Chris Paul, but you waved him so No, you

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<v Speaker 2>traded Jordan pull for Chris Paul.

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<v Speaker 1>And then got really nothing back.

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<v Speaker 2>So you don't have anyone to even like Phill Klay

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<v Speaker 2>Thompson's shoes. Clay's gonna leave probably for nothing, maybe or

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<v Speaker 2>very little. You tried to figure out a way to

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<v Speaker 2>get Paul George, but you couldn't do it. It's just been

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<v Speaker 2>a bad, bad tenure for Mike Dunleavy Junior.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are two free agent signings that I do

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<v Speaker 1>love so far.

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<v Speaker 2>First in my favorite move of free agency, KCP Kent

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<v Speaker 2>Tavies Collet Pulp two time champion by the way, two

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<v Speaker 2>time champion with two different teams, three years, sixty six

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<v Speaker 2>million to the Orlando Magic and do they need him?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, because what happened in that Cleveland Cavalier series.

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<v Speaker 1>Orlando had no shooters.

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<v Speaker 2>They were I think they shot like twenty percent from

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<v Speaker 2>three two wins catastrophic loss. Two things actually about this

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<v Speaker 2>catastrophic loss for the Nuggets. And also, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>the Nuggets offered very similar amount of money for KCP,

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<v Speaker 2>but Calvin Booth went on record and said that they

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<v Speaker 2>would be fine without KCP. So KCP was like, fine,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see, I'll find you will be pull shit. Stop talking,

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<v Speaker 2>Calvin Booth.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop.

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<v Speaker 2>KCP was a very important piece to their championship run.

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<v Speaker 2>And now they got to figure out a way to

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<v Speaker 2>get another three and D guy. And don't tell me

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<v Speaker 2>it's Christian Brown. Just don't I love this for Orlando.

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<v Speaker 2>Now they can throw out Jalen Suggs and KCP, who

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<v Speaker 2>are all NBA defensive type talents. In terms of defense,

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<v Speaker 2>they can both give you a good three, a great move.

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<v Speaker 1>The Magic are on the come up, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>they might even be headed for more moves.

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<v Speaker 2>They might get Clay second. Speaking of Golden State, like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, they wave Chris Paul. Chris Paul goes and

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<v Speaker 2>finds a new home in San Antonio, which is a

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<v Speaker 2>low key, very sneaky good move. A guy who can

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<v Speaker 2>give you a ton of assists of Victor woman Yama

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<v Speaker 2>and slow down the offense to a pace that actually

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense, and not giving the ball to cheering me Sohn,

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<v Speaker 2>which made no sense. CP three plays with another generational

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<v Speaker 2>talent and help him improve the same way. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that he was very good for DeAndre Aiden. Plus he

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<v Speaker 2>can fill in for Greg Popovich if Greg Papovitch gets

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<v Speaker 2>technicaled out of a game and yell when Greg Popovic

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<v Speaker 2>either gets it you know, to kicked out or where

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<v Speaker 2>he loses his voice. A lot of interesting smaller moves.

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<v Speaker 2>Now losing Paul George and the Los Angeles Clippers make

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of moves. They get Kevin Porter Junior. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, two year deal, James Harden signs two year

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<v Speaker 2>seventy million, which I don't know what to make of

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<v Speaker 2>because to me, I felt like James Harden's value had

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<v Speaker 2>diminished below thirty five million a year. But somehow he's

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<v Speaker 2>saying he's taking a pay cut to be a good

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<v Speaker 2>team guy. He left money on the table, that's what

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<v Speaker 2>they're saying. The Clippers are now going to move Russell

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<v Speaker 2>Westbrook somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>It might be the Nuggets.

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows who does not shoot threes well, but he

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<v Speaker 2>does play defense. If Kawhi goes down, I think this

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<v Speaker 2>Clippers team could win thirty games, maybe less.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, maybe less.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's on that team besides Terrence Man, I don't I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think anyone if Kawhi is injured. Phoenix has made

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<v Speaker 2>some interesting moves. They signed Mason Plumley to a one

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<v Speaker 2>year deal. They re signed Roy O'Neill four years.

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<v Speaker 1>Forty four million.

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<v Speaker 2>They brought Bull Bowl back on a one year deal,

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<v Speaker 2>which none of this move is the needle in anyway

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<v Speaker 2>for me. The Sons are in deep shit, deep shit.

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<v Speaker 1>The Sixers.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Darryl Moury only knows like has like ten

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<v Speaker 2>players numbers in his phone because he brings back Eric Gordon, Like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what the deal terms are, but Eric

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<v Speaker 2>Gordon is back in the mix. Like he literally just

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<v Speaker 2>brings guys over that used to play for him in Houston,

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<v Speaker 2>just like PJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Tucker. Is anyone else noticing this?

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<v Speaker 2>He brought back Andre Drummond, who was on the Sixers

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<v Speaker 2>at one point, to backup and beat. And then of

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<v Speaker 2>course the Wizards, my man Troy Weaver comes in as

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<v Speaker 2>a consultant and immediately starts fucking shit up. They drafted

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<v Speaker 2>a center with the number two pick in Alex Aar

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<v Speaker 2>and then went out and signed not one, but two

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<v Speaker 2>free agent centers when they already have a center in

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<v Speaker 2>Marvin Bagley, who, by the way, already played for Troy Weaver,

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<v Speaker 2>Jonas Valanciunis, mister Powdy mcpotterson himself three years.

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<v Speaker 1>Thirty million, what.

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<v Speaker 2>Rashawn Holmes is getting thirteen million, two years twenty six million.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought Rashawn Holmes was not gonna be an NBA

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<v Speaker 2>player anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Wasn't Rashawn Holmes on the Wizards? I don't know, wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>he on the Pistons? I don't know. Washington has people in.

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<v Speaker 2>Charge, but boy, oh boy, does this feel like some

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<v Speaker 2>old Wizard shit. Actually, it sounds more like old pisto

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<v Speaker 2>and shit, because like they love, they loved having five

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<v Speaker 2>centers on the team that they didn't know what to

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<v Speaker 2>do with Jesus Christ. Finally, the MAVs made a big move,

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<v Speaker 2>but it will also end up costing them. They signed

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<v Speaker 2>Pelican's Naji Marshall three years twenty seven million, which I like.

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<v Speaker 2>Naji Marshall was really good in that Pelican series in

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<v Speaker 2>the first rounds. But it turns out they're probably losing

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<v Speaker 2>Dereck Jones Junior in the in the process on a

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<v Speaker 2>technicality because he switched agents and there's like some fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>day waiting period, some sort of technicality where he can

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<v Speaker 2>have to wait before he can resign, and that apparently

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be too late.

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<v Speaker 1>They both have eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>On Klay Thompson. There were a ton of players who

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<v Speaker 2>resigned with their teams. Here a list of the important ones.

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<v Speaker 2>Pistons resigned Kate Cunningham five years, two hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 2>seven million dollars on a max extension. Raptors resigned Scottie

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<v Speaker 2>Barnes five years to twenty five on a max extension.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a shitload of money for a guy who can't

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<v Speaker 2>shoot threes. Emmanuel Quickly five years one to seventy five

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<v Speaker 2>to the Raptors, Wow bam Adebayo three years one sixty

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<v Speaker 2>six to the Heat Pascal Siakam gets resigned four years

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<v Speaker 2>one ninety to the Pacers. Nick Claxton does end up

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<v Speaker 2>resigning with the Nets, which is pretty surprising four years,

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred million, which is kind of what I thought.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, we know about the King's resigning. Malik Monk

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<v Speaker 2>four year, four years seventy eight million, Kevin Love two

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<v Speaker 2>years eight million back to the Heat. Oh, how the

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<v Speaker 2>mighty have fallen. Here's an interesting one that no one

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<v Speaker 2>saw coming. Max Christie resigns.

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<v Speaker 1>Four years, thirty two million dollars with the Lakers.

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<v Speaker 2>Are we sure Max Christy isn't a clutch client, because

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<v Speaker 2>that's the only thing that would make sense to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Obi top End resigns at four years sixty million to

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<v Speaker 2>the Pacers, which is fascinating considering that the Pacers still

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<v Speaker 2>have Jeris Walker on the roster.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's gonna make mean for him? Is he gonna what?

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<v Speaker 2>I really don't know how he's gonna get into the rotation.

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<v Speaker 2>Alex lenn resigns with the Kings one year, three million,

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick William five years ninety millions to.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay with the Bulls. Holy shit, Bulls, what's the vision?

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<v Speaker 2>DeAndre Jordan re signs that one year three point six

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<v Speaker 2>million to the Nuggets.

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<v Speaker 1>Just to make sure that those nicolea you'gic on off

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<v Speaker 1>splits are still abysmal.

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<v Speaker 2>Luke Cornett on a one year deal and to MIAs

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<v Speaker 2>Cada on a four year deal to the Celtics. Hell yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Tomas Cada, get your Bread. The following players had their

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<v Speaker 2>options picked up or opted.

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<v Speaker 1>Into their player options.

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<v Speaker 2>Jericho Sims Knicks, Cam Reddish by the Lakers, Tory Craig

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<v Speaker 2>to the Bulls. I don't know what they're doing, Garrison

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<v Speaker 2>Matthews by the Hawks, Wile Jayshawn Tate by the Rockets,

0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:54.080
<v Speaker 2>Sam Houser by the Celtics, Delano'banton by the Blazers, Jackson

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<v Speaker 2>Hayes to the Lakers, Josh Richardson to the Heat, Bruce

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<v Speaker 2>Brown to the Raptors, which is just to portray piece,

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<v Speaker 2>let's be honest, and PJ Tucker the Clippers, which be honest,

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<v Speaker 2>probably is a trade clip trip as well. There's some

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<v Speaker 2>players though being released by their teams or having their

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<v Speaker 2>team options declined, making them free agents. Oh also, I

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<v Speaker 2>think d Low opted into his contract and he's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be traded anyway. Including ten first rounders and five lottery picks.

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<v Speaker 2>Teams are just like, we don't want you, baby, Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Ingles by the Magic, Sidik Bay by the Hawks nineteenth

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<v Speaker 2>pick in twenty twenty. Omar, you're at seven. Kyra Lewis

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<v Speaker 2>thirteenth pick in twenty twenty, which makes perfect sense. Potter

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<v Speaker 2>by the Jazz, Dominic Barlow by the Spurs. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of Spurs fans very pissed about that one, which, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't know that we need to get up

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<v Speaker 2>in arms about that. Tristan Vucevich forty second pick in

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty twenty three draft by the Wizards, Xavier Moon, who,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, last year in the Summer League was

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<v Speaker 2>an I could think he was. Paul George kai Jones

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen pick and twenty twenty one by the Clippers, um

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<v Speaker 2>Killian Hayes number seven pick over in twenty twenty, Evan Fournier,

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<v Speaker 2>Buddy Beheim chim as he met to Stanley Umoud, Troy

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<v Speaker 2>Brown who is the fifteenth pick in twenty eighteen, and

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<v Speaker 2>James fucking Wiseman Warriors pick number two in the draft

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty by the Pistons.

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<v Speaker 2>Trajan Langdon basically waiving the entirety of Troy weavers life's work.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, He's like, fuck these guys. These guys fucking stink, honestly.

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<v Speaker 2>Pressure Toe Chewia number twenty in twenty twenty, which is

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<v Speaker 2>very sad.

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<v Speaker 1>Dakwan Jeffries by the Knicks.

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<v Speaker 2>Luke Kennard twelfth pick in twenty seventeen, but they're actually

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<v Speaker 2>working on a long term deal Chuma Okeeke sixteenth pick

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty nineteen by the Hornets, Mo Wagner by the Magics,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think that they're still working at a long

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<v Speaker 2>term deal for him, Isaiah Joe and Aaron Wiggins, but

0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:56.160
<v Speaker 2>they're working out long term deals with okc Lester Keonees

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<v Speaker 2>by the Warriors and Seth Curry by the Hornets. Wow

0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:02.880
<v Speaker 2>players currently opting out of the player options and becoming

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<v Speaker 2>free agents. Jalen Smith opted out of his final year

0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:11.040
<v Speaker 2>of the Pacers contract, Damian Lee and Joshua Kogi opted

0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:13.679
<v Speaker 2>out of the final year of the Sun's contract, Caleb

0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:17.520
<v Speaker 2>Martin heading to other places leaving the Heat, and Thomas

0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Bryant opting out of his final year with the Heat

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<v Speaker 2>as well. So much to get over later, but that's

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<v Speaker 2>it for now.

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<v Speaker 1>On a Sunday night night, that's pretty much all popping

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<v Speaker 1>as of midnight.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's turn to an interview I did with NBI insider

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<v Speaker 2>Trevor Lane on the Front Office show. He was joined

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<v Speaker 2>on my other show at MGM Tonight, which airs on

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<v Speaker 2>the radio in most as markets from seven to eleven

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<v Speaker 2>Eastern and live on Twitch and YouTube as well. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>joined by my other co host, Nick Ashew and Ryan Horbot.

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<v Speaker 2>Was a fascinating interview, by the way, So let's get

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<v Speaker 2>right into which.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah and with that, there's no way to segue to

0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:55.200
<v Speaker 3>Trevor Lane, but we will with that. Maybe he's going

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<v Speaker 3>to a farmer's market tomorrow, I have no idea. Let's

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<v Speaker 3>start with before we get to the Lakers, the breaking

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<v Speaker 3>news to Jontay Murray getting traded, uh to the Pelicans.

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<v Speaker 3>All three of us really do like this move. Think

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<v Speaker 3>it's a certainly a better spot for him. Your thoughts

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<v Speaker 3>on that trade and maybe farmer's markets too, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Way, yeah, I mean, first of all, that was a

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<v Speaker 4>great movie reference there. I love it old school, but

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<v Speaker 4>uh yeah, look, de Jontay Murray ultimately going to the

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<v Speaker 4>to the Pelicans obviously a big disappointment for Lakers fans

0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:26.200
<v Speaker 4>who were hoping to get to Jontay Murray in a trade.

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<v Speaker 5>Honestly, I'm a little.

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<v Speaker 4>Bit underwhelmed by what the Hawks got in returning to

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<v Speaker 4>Jontay Murray in a couple of second round for Johntay Murray,

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of second round picks and then.

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<v Speaker 5>Dyson Daniels, who's a fine player.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, if you're Atlanta, you move away from

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<v Speaker 4>the Tree Young Murray experiment and you move into the

0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:46.200
<v Speaker 4>future round Alex Sar, Trey Young, and then you move

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<v Speaker 4>on from there.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was two first round picks, was it not?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I'm tripping. I thought it was too.

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<v Speaker 3>Fir yeahs swap So no, not a swap. Sorry, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty five first round pick in a twenty twenty seven

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<v Speaker 2>first round pick, but the least favorable of locks to

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<v Speaker 2>tell us that which'll probably be we may maybe it's

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it's box Bucks could be imploding.

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<v Speaker 1>We never know, Trevor would ever know.

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<v Speaker 2>In terms of the Lakers moves, we've been hearing pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much all off season that Rob Polinka just thinks it's impossible.

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<v Speaker 1>To make trades. But here we are with all of

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<v Speaker 1>these trades happening.

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<v Speaker 2>As somebody who covers this team and is tapped into

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<v Speaker 2>the fan base, how infuriating is it to watch players

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<v Speaker 2>that you want to come to your team end up

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<v Speaker 2>on pretty favorable trades.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, certainly there's a lot of Lakers fans out there

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<v Speaker 4>right now that are questioning whether or not.

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<v Speaker 5>The Lakers tax is real.

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<v Speaker 4>If this is a real thing, like teams just don't

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<v Speaker 4>seem to want to trade with the Lakers now. I

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<v Speaker 4>think you can make an argument here that when you're

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<v Speaker 4>in the Hawks position and you can get a twenty

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<v Speaker 4>twenty five first round pick, which is ironically the Lakers

0:19:55.359 --> 0:19:57.880
<v Speaker 4>first round pick, but not something the Lakers could offer,

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<v Speaker 4>that there is certainly some value in that, especially when

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<v Speaker 4>we look at Cooper Flag and him being a guy

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<v Speaker 4>who could potentially be available in this twenty twenty five draft.

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<v Speaker 4>So that is certainly something and it's something to keep

0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:12.399
<v Speaker 4>in mind when we're evaluating this. But yeah, from a

0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:15.119
<v Speaker 4>Lakers perspective, seeing de Jon taint Murray, who is a

0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:19.360
<v Speaker 4>guy the Lakers were heavily involved in targeting last trade deadline,

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<v Speaker 4>seeing him go elsewhere doesn't feel great, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Who is on the target list now in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>like Laker potential Lakers that you guys might want to

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<v Speaker 2>acquire in the offseason.

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<v Speaker 5>Sure, I mean there's a few guys.

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<v Speaker 4>When we look at Cam Johnson from the Nets, that's

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<v Speaker 4>a player who you know, we're expecting that team to

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<v Speaker 4>try to move towards the future. Move off of some

0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:46.320
<v Speaker 4>long term salaries, so maybe there's something there.

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<v Speaker 5>Jeremy Grant.

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<v Speaker 4>I always hesitate with the Portland Trail Blazers though, because

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<v Speaker 4>they've never traded with the Lakers, and that's that's kind

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<v Speaker 4>of a source of pride for the Blazers that they

0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:57.480
<v Speaker 4>have executed to trade with the Lakers. So that's part

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<v Speaker 4>of it too, right, So j Grant somebody who could

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<v Speaker 4>be out there. Maybe I think it would make sense

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<v Speaker 4>for the Blazers to move on from them. But would

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<v Speaker 4>you know he actually send Would they actually send Jeremy

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<v Speaker 4>Grant to the Lakers?

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<v Speaker 5>That's a question, but exactly they really do.

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<v Speaker 4>But de Jontay Murray was the biggest name probably that

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<v Speaker 4>was realistic out there, especially now with Trey Young almost

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<v Speaker 4>certainly staying in Atlanta with the Murray trade. So it's uh,

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<v Speaker 4>it's slim Pickens at this point.

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<v Speaker 6>I was a big fan of the Brownie pick because

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<v Speaker 6>it made me a bunch of money, and I like

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<v Speaker 6>a good storyline and I'm just hashtag team Dad and

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<v Speaker 6>I just like, what were you gonna do a pick

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<v Speaker 6>fifty five? I don't think anything was really going to

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<v Speaker 6>move the needle for this team.

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<v Speaker 4>What were your thoughts same, you know, And I'm right

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<v Speaker 4>there too, And I think it's an interesting divide between

0:21:41.960 --> 0:21:43.720
<v Speaker 4>people who are parents there are people who are not.

0:21:43.800 --> 0:21:47.439
<v Speaker 5>People like myself who I have a daughter. I think about, Hey, how.

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<v Speaker 4>Amazing would it be to be able to do something

0:21:49.720 --> 0:21:52.399
<v Speaker 4>like that with your kid, And so that, you know,

0:21:52.680 --> 0:21:54.840
<v Speaker 4>I got to sympathize or empathize.

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<v Speaker 5>With with that type of situation.

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<v Speaker 4>But I do think that at the fifty five pick

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<v Speaker 4>in the NBA draft, look, there is there's legitimately players

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<v Speaker 4>that are at that stage of the draft that are

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<v Speaker 4>telling teams don't draft me because they want to go

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<v Speaker 4>somewhere an undrafted free agency. So I'm not gonna worry

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<v Speaker 4>that much about it. It's not like it's not like

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<v Speaker 4>they spent the seventeenth pick on him. I don't think

0:22:17.359 --> 0:22:20.600
<v Speaker 4>that there's a reason for all of this outcry over

0:22:20.720 --> 0:22:24.920
<v Speaker 4>the Browny selection using that pick. I think that's more

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<v Speaker 4>than fine on Bronnie. And you know what, he is

0:22:26.680 --> 0:22:30.080
<v Speaker 4>a legitimate NBA talent in his own right that is

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<v Speaker 4>worthy of being selected there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we also know, I mean, yet how many players

0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:36.520
<v Speaker 3>at fifty five and it's really gone on to Yeah,

0:22:36.520 --> 0:22:38.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean it's like like men who went at fifty

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<v Speaker 3>seven Isaiah Thomas, the Thomas last pick of the draft,

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<v Speaker 3>and again there could be somebody in this, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you look at this and say it just it made

0:22:45.359 --> 0:22:47.040
<v Speaker 3>more sense for them, I think at that point to

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<v Speaker 3>go with the unique story that's there. Talking to Trevor

0:22:49.560 --> 0:22:53.280
<v Speaker 3>Lane bet MGM tonight. So now you say obviously that

0:22:53.320 --> 0:22:55.679
<v Speaker 3>you think Bronnie is obviously an NBA talent in his

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<v Speaker 3>own right, What does his rookie season look like with

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<v Speaker 3>this team in your eyes?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think he's going to spend a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>time with the South Bay Lakers. He'll be with the

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<v Speaker 4>G League club, he'll be developing. And that was a

0:23:05.960 --> 0:23:09.520
<v Speaker 4>big part of this was Clutch Sports Rich Paul. They

0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:11.880
<v Speaker 4>wanted to make sure that Bronnie was with a team

0:23:11.880 --> 0:23:14.119
<v Speaker 4>that was going to be invested in his future and

0:23:14.200 --> 0:23:17.480
<v Speaker 4>developing him and understanding that he's not ready to step

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<v Speaker 4>into the NBA right away. Yes, he'll be a draw

0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:23.040
<v Speaker 4>at Summer League. They'll be buzz in the building with

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<v Speaker 4>Bronnie is playing, but he's not going to be expected

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<v Speaker 4>to step on the floor and play right away for

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<v Speaker 4>the Lakers, and that's going to be a critical part

0:23:30.280 --> 0:23:33.080
<v Speaker 4>of this, giving him that time to develop. He is

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<v Speaker 4>a legitimate talent, but it's going to take him time

0:23:35.840 --> 0:23:38.280
<v Speaker 4>to get to the point to where he is able

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<v Speaker 4>to step on the floor in the NBA. I do

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<v Speaker 4>think we'll see him have that moment where he plays

0:23:43.720 --> 0:23:46.040
<v Speaker 4>with his dad, and that's going to be an incredible moment.

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<v Speaker 4>But I would not expect to see him night in,

0:23:49.320 --> 0:23:51.119
<v Speaker 4>night out playing with the Lakers. I think he's going

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<v Speaker 4>to be spending most of his time playing with the

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<v Speaker 4>South Bay Lakers in the G League.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like Trevor, Paul George, and Clay Thompson are

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<v Speaker 2>somewhat bells of the ball in this free agency, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of options, teams trying to figure out a way

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<v Speaker 2>to make those deals work. What would be your prediction

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of where those two players go?

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I think when we look at this,

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<v Speaker 4>we look at Klay Thompson, we look at Paul George.

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<v Speaker 4>I think specifically, this is actually a win for the

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<v Speaker 4>NBA in terms of their new collective bargaining agreement. This

0:24:24.080 --> 0:24:27.040
<v Speaker 4>was done with targets painted on the backs of the

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<v Speaker 4>Warriors and the Clippers to try to force them to

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<v Speaker 4>move talent off their rosters and really target these big

0:24:32.520 --> 0:24:36.080
<v Speaker 4>spenders and and send some of this talent to other

0:24:36.119 --> 0:24:38.280
<v Speaker 4>teams around the NBA. And so Klay Thompson and Paul

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<v Speaker 4>George specifically being two guys who could wind up leaving

0:24:41.560 --> 0:24:44.359
<v Speaker 4>their teams and going elsewhere. I think the NBA is

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<v Speaker 4>going to be able to point to the CBA and

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<v Speaker 4>say it's working, this was the plan. It's working. You've

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<v Speaker 4>got the Clippers with Steve Bomber, who has infinite money

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<v Speaker 4>now balking at the idea of paying Paul George and

0:24:56.320 --> 0:24:58.960
<v Speaker 4>giving him a four year deal and ultimately sending him

0:24:58.960 --> 0:25:02.040
<v Speaker 4>on somewhere else. You know, I think that's a big

0:25:02.119 --> 0:25:05.680
<v Speaker 4>piece to this story here. But in terms of ultimately

0:25:05.680 --> 0:25:09.160
<v Speaker 4>where these guys wind up, I do kind of buy into,

0:25:09.200 --> 0:25:11.560
<v Speaker 4>as strange as it sounds, the Warriors being interested in

0:25:11.640 --> 0:25:14.440
<v Speaker 4>Paul George, but I have a hard time not believing

0:25:14.480 --> 0:25:16.480
<v Speaker 4>that he's just going to walk into Phillies camp space.

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<v Speaker 4>It seems like it's such a clean exit for him

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<v Speaker 4>to go head over to the Eastern Conference where things

0:25:21.400 --> 0:25:24.440
<v Speaker 4>are much much easier and walk into that Philadelphia seventy

0:25:24.480 --> 0:25:26.480
<v Speaker 4>six or camp space. And then when I look at

0:25:26.760 --> 0:25:29.760
<v Speaker 4>Klay Thompson and I see what the Orlando Magic need

0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:31.120
<v Speaker 4>another Eastern Conference team.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he makes a lot of sense there.

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<v Speaker 4>So if their incumbent teams don't come with the offers

0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:38.520
<v Speaker 4>that they're looking for, and so far that has been

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<v Speaker 4>the case, the offers are not there for them, it

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<v Speaker 4>wouldn't shock me at both of these guys wind up

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<v Speaker 4>making a move.

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<v Speaker 5>Eastward really quick.

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<v Speaker 1>Casep also looks like he's going to be a free agent.

0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:51.880
<v Speaker 2>I saw some comments by GM Calvin Booth that were

0:25:51.960 --> 0:25:53.800
<v Speaker 2>very similar to the comments that he made about Bruce

0:25:53.800 --> 0:25:56.840
<v Speaker 2>Brown last year, basically saying if Casep.

0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:58.159
<v Speaker 1>Walks, we're going to be just fine.

0:25:58.320 --> 0:26:00.119
<v Speaker 2>And that's what he said last year, and they were

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<v Speaker 2>not Trevor just fine. Like what's your take on what's

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<v Speaker 2>happening with the Nuggets and just that perspective from Nuggets

0:26:08.600 --> 0:26:09.840
<v Speaker 2>GM Calvin Booth.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you're on the money. I drew the exact same connection.

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<v Speaker 4>I said, gosh, they said the same stuff last year

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<v Speaker 4>with Bruce Brown. They were talking about Peyton Watson and

0:26:19.119 --> 0:26:21.399
<v Speaker 4>how he was going to step into this role and

0:26:21.480 --> 0:26:23.800
<v Speaker 4>everybody was going to be so impressed with him. And

0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:27.160
<v Speaker 4>I like Peyton Watson, but losing Bruce Brown certainly hurt

0:26:27.160 --> 0:26:29.680
<v Speaker 4>the Denver Nuggets, and cous Cobo Pope.

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<v Speaker 5>Will be an even bigger blow.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he's one of the best three and D

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<v Speaker 4>guards out there in the NBA. I think he will

0:26:36.359 --> 0:26:39.080
<v Speaker 4>be a big loss for the Denver Nuggets. And again,

0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:41.320
<v Speaker 4>this is when we're looking at these teams that are

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<v Speaker 4>right up against that second tier apron These are the

0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:46.320
<v Speaker 4>kind of difficult decisions that the NBA wanted them to

0:26:46.359 --> 0:26:49.560
<v Speaker 4>have to make to redistribute talent around the league. So

0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:51.919
<v Speaker 4>Contavious Coal Pope is a guy that's going to be

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<v Speaker 4>in high demand.

0:26:53.200 --> 0:26:53.920
<v Speaker 5>Around the league.

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<v Speaker 4>We know the three and D skill set is something

0:26:56.480 --> 0:27:00.280
<v Speaker 4>that everybody is looking for. KCP being a multiple time

0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:03.639
<v Speaker 4>champion now with multiple clubs, he is going to be

0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:05.160
<v Speaker 4>a key target.

0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:06.440
<v Speaker 5>Like if if Philly.

0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:09.680
<v Speaker 4>Does not wind up with Paul George, like I was predicting,

0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:13.280
<v Speaker 4>they could easily pivot to Kntavious Colboll Pope and make

0:27:13.400 --> 0:27:14.919
<v Speaker 4>that would make a lot of sense for them. So

0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:19.119
<v Speaker 4>I do think that Denver appears to be resigned to

0:27:19.160 --> 0:27:21.520
<v Speaker 4>their fate that they're going to lose Contavious Cobwoll Pope.

0:27:21.800 --> 0:27:24.040
<v Speaker 4>And despite the brave face they might be putting on.

0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:25.399
<v Speaker 4>It is going to hurt.

0:27:25.520 --> 0:27:27.639
<v Speaker 6>Do you think Cleveland looks to do anything with Evan

0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:29.679
<v Speaker 6>Mobley or Jared Allen, maybe looks to move one of

0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:30.040
<v Speaker 6>those two.

0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:32.439
<v Speaker 5>I think they keep them. I think they keep you know.

0:27:32.480 --> 0:27:34.439
<v Speaker 4>I know there's been some talk about Jared Allen and

0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:36.879
<v Speaker 4>potentially moving on from him, but I think he's a

0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:39.280
<v Speaker 4>really good big on a on a great contract. I

0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:41.439
<v Speaker 4>don't have a problem with the twenty million dollars that

0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:43.399
<v Speaker 4>he is owed. I think that makes a lot of

0:27:43.400 --> 0:27:46.400
<v Speaker 4>sense to keep that pairing together. Even Darius Garland they're

0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:49.440
<v Speaker 4>calling his bluff currently, we'll see and when push comes

0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:51.680
<v Speaker 4>to shove. But if he has for a trade after

0:27:51.720 --> 0:27:55.160
<v Speaker 4>a Donovan Mitchell deal gets done, I do think that

0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:58.640
<v Speaker 4>the Cavs are they're invested in this group. Maybe they

0:27:58.720 --> 0:28:01.240
<v Speaker 4>ultimately move on from guard Erland if he does ask

0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:04.320
<v Speaker 4>for a deal, But I think Jared Allen, Evan Bobley,

0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 4>I think they're guys to build around for the future.

0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:07.919
<v Speaker 5>They're building blocks.

0:28:08.160 --> 0:28:10.000
<v Speaker 4>Donovan Mitchell is said to be a big fan of

0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 4>Jared Allen, and if that's the case, I don't see

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:12.840
<v Speaker 4>him going anywhere.

0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:16.120
<v Speaker 3>Talking to Trevor Lane BETTEMGM tonight. We've talked obviously about

0:28:16.160 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 3>a lot of teams that have a lot of needs

0:28:17.560 --> 0:28:19.560
<v Speaker 3>and a lot of offseason decisions to make. But we

0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:22.159
<v Speaker 3>obviously we obviously, if I could speak, it's a Friday,

0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:25.199
<v Speaker 3>this is how things go. We watched the Knicks have

0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:29.280
<v Speaker 3>right now to this point, the most aggressive offseason with anybody.

0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:31.080
<v Speaker 3>And it's really not even official, but we know this

0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:33.120
<v Speaker 3>is how the NBA works. The stuff's agreed upon long

0:28:33.160 --> 0:28:35.520
<v Speaker 3>before it actually becomes official. Is there any other team

0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:37.679
<v Speaker 3>East or West, doesn't matter that you look at and

0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:41.400
<v Speaker 3>you say, I think they could try to at least

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:44.000
<v Speaker 3>match what the Knicks did in terms of major regression

0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:47.120
<v Speaker 3>and spending money. And obviously they're retaining some guys too.

0:28:47.160 --> 0:28:49.520
<v Speaker 3>It's really the Michail Bridges trade that was the big deal.

0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:51.760
<v Speaker 3>But somebody that may have the same mindset that the

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:52.760
<v Speaker 3>Knicks have already had.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I look at one team out west, the

0:28:55.480 --> 0:28:56.400
<v Speaker 4>Sacramento Kinks.

0:28:56.720 --> 0:28:58.600
<v Speaker 5>You look at them in the situation that they're in

0:28:58.680 --> 0:28:59.040
<v Speaker 5>right now.

0:28:59.080 --> 0:29:01.959
<v Speaker 4>They got their taste the playoffs year before this past season,

0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:04.200
<v Speaker 4>and they liked it. They hadn't hit the playoffs in

0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:06.680
<v Speaker 4>seventeen years. They want to make sure that they are

0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:10.000
<v Speaker 4>back there in that spot for the foreseeable future. They

0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:12.760
<v Speaker 4>want to be that playoff team, and you look at

0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:14.800
<v Speaker 4>what they've got right now, you can tell they're probably

0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:15.520
<v Speaker 4>a piece short.

0:29:15.520 --> 0:29:15.680
<v Speaker 5>Now.

0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 4>The West is extremely difficult. This is a brutal gauntlet

0:29:19.560 --> 0:29:21.920
<v Speaker 4>to get through the West. But they've already been connected

0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:24.360
<v Speaker 4>to guys like Zach Levine. They've got a few pieces,

0:29:24.360 --> 0:29:28.000
<v Speaker 4>specifically Harrison Barnes, a guy they're looking to upgrade from.

0:29:28.280 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 4>I look at Sacramento, particularly with Daron Fox not agreeing

0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:34.400
<v Speaker 4>to an extension with them just yet and wanting to

0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:37.120
<v Speaker 4>see what they're going to do. I think Sacramento could

0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:38.920
<v Speaker 4>be the next team to make a big move, whether

0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:41.560
<v Speaker 4>it's Zach Levine or somebody else. They've already had a

0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:44.560
<v Speaker 4>good summer retaining Malik Monk, and now I think they

0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:47.120
<v Speaker 4>could be in play to make the next big move

0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 4>and land another wing to help out this roster.

0:29:50.120 --> 0:29:53.440
<v Speaker 2>Trevor, the Chicago Bulls have been a team that I

0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:56.880
<v Speaker 2>feel like has been delusional about their standing in the NBA,

0:29:57.080 --> 0:29:59.800
<v Speaker 2>and now it feels like the vision is becoming a

0:29:59.840 --> 0:30:02.280
<v Speaker 2>lo little bit clearer for them that they can't keep

0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:05.000
<v Speaker 2>doing the things that they've been doing. I still don't

0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:07.479
<v Speaker 2>understand though, what it is that they're trying to do,

0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:11.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, getting Josh Gitty and then Madus, who are

0:30:11.280 --> 0:30:13.520
<v Speaker 2>similar players in the sense that they can't shoot. Can

0:30:13.560 --> 0:30:17.000
<v Speaker 2>you help help us understand what it is their vision is.

0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 5>I wish I could. I wish I wish I could.

0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 4>Nobody knows what the what the Bulls are doing at

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:25.720
<v Speaker 4>this point. You know, we've been saying for a while

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:29.160
<v Speaker 4>now that they needed to move on. They had that brief,

0:30:29.240 --> 0:30:31.680
<v Speaker 4>brief period where they had Lonzo Ball was healthy and

0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:34.719
<v Speaker 4>they looked like this exciting, fun team, and everything has

0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:37.560
<v Speaker 4>just fallen apart since then. I'm worried that they're going

0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:39.640
<v Speaker 4>to give too much money to Demartin Rose and to

0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:42.640
<v Speaker 4>stick around just in an attempt to stay in the

0:30:42.680 --> 0:30:44.560
<v Speaker 4>play in. They were rumored to have been offered a

0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:47.840
<v Speaker 4>top ten pick last year at the trade deadline and

0:30:47.880 --> 0:30:51.800
<v Speaker 4>not take that for Alex Caruso instead because they wanted

0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:55.040
<v Speaker 4>to make the play in, instead taking the deal for

0:30:55.120 --> 0:30:58.000
<v Speaker 4>Josh Gitty this summer. I sure hope, and I know

0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:00.239
<v Speaker 4>Bulls fans are ready for it too, that they do

0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:04.280
<v Speaker 4>decide ultimately to fully commit to a rebuild. Because it's

0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:06.880
<v Speaker 4>what they need right now, and it's what Bulls fans deserve.

0:31:06.960 --> 0:31:09.680
<v Speaker 4>And you know what this whole adage of well, fans

0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:11.720
<v Speaker 4>aren't going to be patient for something like that, They're

0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:13.560
<v Speaker 4>not going to sit through it. No, NBA fans are

0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:16.440
<v Speaker 4>smarter than that. They understand what it is that teams

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:18.600
<v Speaker 4>are looking to do. As long as there is a

0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 4>clear plan, as long as you can see what that

0:31:20.920 --> 0:31:25.120
<v Speaker 4>end goal is, fans will buy in, fans will stay loyal.

0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:26.760
<v Speaker 4>And that's what I think the Bulls need to do.

0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 4>They need to fully commit to the rebuild. That might

0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 4>mean a sign and trade for Demato Rose and send

0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 4>them somewhere else and give this team a much brighter future.

0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:36.240
<v Speaker 4>That's what the Bulls need to do right now.

0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:38.880
<v Speaker 3>Has someone that covered the Wizards myself? I watched that

0:31:38.960 --> 0:31:41.239
<v Speaker 3>team do the same thing for years. It was all

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:43.120
<v Speaker 3>about getting the eighth seed and that's it, and all

0:31:43.120 --> 0:31:45.480
<v Speaker 3>it does is delay the inevitable for an organization. So

0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:48.280
<v Speaker 3>maybe the Bulls have finally figured that part out. Trevor Lane,

0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:51.760
<v Speaker 3>host of The Front Office Show, and Lakers love having

0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:52.959
<v Speaker 3>you on, man, really appreciate it.

0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:54.720
<v Speaker 5>Hey, thanks, guys, appreciate you having me.

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