Speaker 1: On this episode of the Heat Check.
Speaker 2: It's my favorite time of the year. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: I love it. It's the tea is the hottest right now.
Speaker 2: This summer is hot, but free agency is hotter. He
Speaker 2: checks here to keep you up on everything happening as
Speaker 2: of eleven thirty Eastern Standard time Sunday night. We will
Speaker 2: also drop a bonus interview with NBA insider Trevor Lane,
Speaker 2: who maybe a little bit late on a possible deal
Speaker 2: between the Jeremy Grant of the Portland Trailblazers and the Lakers,
Speaker 2: but hopefully not Anthony. Teams are getting rearranged right before
Speaker 2: our very eyes, So drop that motherfucking beat that should
Speaker 2: be Rihanna. Free agency began at six pm on a Sunday,
Speaker 2: which is truthfully very fucking weird for it to begin,
Speaker 2: But I don't know when. When the Draft is two
Speaker 2: days and then you've got days between.
Speaker 1: I don't actually know why.
Speaker 2: But there are two really huge developing stories right now
Speaker 2: and a couple of big free agent signings that we.
Speaker 1: Have to get into.
Speaker 2: There are two players leaving their teams and making huge.
Speaker 1: Waves throughout the NBA and doing so.
Speaker 2: The first is Paul George Clippers put out a tweet
Speaker 2: which was, I'm sorry for your loss, but I'm not
Speaker 2: reading all that. Like that was what I saw on
Speaker 2: their twitter. I was like, that's a full memo and
Speaker 2: I don't know what it said. I just know it
Speaker 2: was way too many words for me to read all that.
Speaker 2: To say, the headline was all we needed to know
Speaker 2: is that Paul George will not be returned, even though
Speaker 2: he wants to stay in the West Coast, even though
Speaker 2: the Warriors couldn't get a deal done for him, even
Speaker 2: though he's probably not going to the Sacramento Kings, even
Speaker 2: though he's not going to the Lakers, He's gonna go
Speaker 2: to the East Coast, but he will not return. And yes,
Speaker 2: we will get into the worst trade in the history
Speaker 2: of basketball, which is that one?
Speaker 1: That one. There just is nothing worse. There just is
Speaker 1: nothing worse.
Speaker 2: Shay Gilgess Alexander, who is top three MVP voting last year,
Speaker 2: led the league in steals, led the league in deflections,
Speaker 2: averaged thirty points per game, one of the most consistent
Speaker 2: players in the league, a great rebounder, a great playmaker,
Speaker 2: and then seven.
Speaker 1: First round picks.
Speaker 2: So like to be honest, if Shay was to be
Speaker 2: traded right now, considering what we saw for Michale Bridges, like,
Speaker 2: would that be twenty first round draft picks essentially like
Speaker 2: seven for the first rounds that you got, and then
Speaker 2: Shae whatever Shay is worth, Like, Shae's got to be
Speaker 2: worth seven, right, that's fourteen picks. I just they're gonna
Speaker 2: get the They have the right to swat picks in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, which is the most loaded class that
Speaker 2: we've seen since probably the Scoot Brandon Miller Wemby class,
Speaker 2: but maybe even more stacked than that.
Speaker 1: For now, he is on the move.
Speaker 2: It looks like he might be ending up in Philadelphia,
Speaker 2: which is also fucking crazy because the Clippers sent two
Speaker 2: first round picks to Philadelphia to get James Harden and
Speaker 2: now if Paul George goes to Philadelphia, that only benefits
Speaker 2: Philadelphia in the sense that the Clippers are now only.
Speaker 1: Much worse team. Wow. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Philadelphia still might find a way to fuck it up,
Speaker 2: but I expect this to resolve itself in the next
Speaker 2: couple of days. Jesus Christ, the Clippers are a dumpster fire.
Speaker 2: They also picked up Kevin Porter Junior, the guy who
Speaker 2: beat the shit out of his girlfriend and was out
Speaker 2: damn league and has been playing for Olympiacos Like not
Speaker 2: a joke, that's where he's been playing.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's up with Rip Jerry West Rip.
Speaker 2: That's all I'm gonna say. The other big news right now,
Speaker 2: Klay Thompson is leaving the Warriors. I thought I'd never
Speaker 2: hear that ever. Klay Thompson will no longer be a
Speaker 2: splash brother, Steph Curry and Clay will not finish their
Speaker 2: careers together. Why turns out Klay Thompson's in his feelings again.
Speaker 1: Shocking.
Speaker 2: Klay Thompson feels disrespected by the Warriors, so he's willing
Speaker 2: to take less money to play for another team than
Speaker 2: the team that drafted him. He won all those rings
Speaker 2: with one of his best friends is on the team,
Speaker 2: and they're still gonna pay him twenty million even though
Speaker 2: they're in the luxury tax and maybe hardcat but no,
Speaker 2: he'd rather be paid thirteen million to play for the
Speaker 2: Lakers because he felt disrespected the team that gave them
Speaker 2: one hundred and ninety million dollars over five years after
Speaker 2: he tore his ACL and then was out for a year,
Speaker 2: played in an unsanctioned scrimmage and tore his achilles. He
Speaker 2: was out for two and a half years, never was
Speaker 2: the same player, and they still stood by him. He
Speaker 2: can't stop pouting because he wants a MAX contract even
Speaker 2: though he does not deserve it, and even though he
Speaker 2: didn't deserve that one after he tore his acl That
Speaker 2: is not a good look for Clay.
Speaker 1: This is bad.
Speaker 2: I cannot wait to hear what Draymond Green is gonna
Speaker 2: say about this to shit tomorrow. Who is in the
Speaker 2: Clay Thompson sweepstakes? The Dallas Mavericks for one, through Orlando
Speaker 2: Magic for two, and now the Clippers and the Lakers
Speaker 2: and the Sixers.
Speaker 1: What's crazy is by the way, I saw a.
Speaker 2: Tweet from back in twenty nineteen where WOJ was saying
Speaker 2: that Klay Thompson was willing to explore an offer with
Speaker 2: the Clippers.
Speaker 1: If they didn't give him his max back then.
Speaker 2: Klay Thompson's been strong arm in the Warriors for five years.
Speaker 2: I don't know where he's gonna go, but I tell
Speaker 2: you what, I don't even know if he's gonna be effective.
Speaker 2: It does mean the end of an era for Golden State,
Speaker 2: though it I just never thought it would happen, honestly,
Speaker 2: And for my man, Mike Dunleavy Junior, you've been fumbling
Speaker 2: the bags or you lost out on I don't know.
Speaker 2: You could have gotten a deal done with the Spurs
Speaker 2: for Chris Paul, but you waved him so No, you
Speaker 2: traded Jordan pull for Chris Paul.
Speaker 1: And then got really nothing back.
Speaker 2: So you don't have anyone to even like Phill Klay
Speaker 2: Thompson's shoes. Clay's gonna leave probably for nothing, maybe or
Speaker 2: very little. You tried to figure out a way to
Speaker 2: get Paul George, but you couldn't do it. It's just been
Speaker 2: a bad, bad tenure for Mike Dunleavy Junior.
Speaker 1: But there are two free agent signings that I do
Speaker 1: love so far.
Speaker 2: First in my favorite move of free agency, KCP Kent
Speaker 2: Tavies Collet Pulp two time champion by the way, two
Speaker 2: time champion with two different teams, three years, sixty six
Speaker 2: million to the Orlando Magic and do they need him?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because what happened in that Cleveland Cavalier series.
Speaker 1: Orlando had no shooters.
Speaker 2: They were I think they shot like twenty percent from
Speaker 2: three two wins catastrophic loss. Two things actually about this
Speaker 2: catastrophic loss for the Nuggets. And also, by the way,
Speaker 2: the Nuggets offered very similar amount of money for KCP,
Speaker 2: but Calvin Booth went on record and said that they
Speaker 2: would be fine without KCP. So KCP was like, fine,
Speaker 2: we'll see, I'll find you will be pull shit. Stop talking,
Speaker 2: Calvin Booth.
Speaker 1: Stop.
Speaker 2: KCP was a very important piece to their championship run.
Speaker 2: And now they got to figure out a way to
Speaker 2: get another three and D guy. And don't tell me
Speaker 2: it's Christian Brown. Just don't I love this for Orlando.
Speaker 2: Now they can throw out Jalen Suggs and KCP, who
Speaker 2: are all NBA defensive type talents. In terms of defense,
Speaker 2: they can both give you a good three, a great move.
Speaker 1: The Magic are on the come up, and I think
Speaker 1: they might even be headed for more moves.
Speaker 2: They might get Clay second. Speaking of Golden State, like
Speaker 2: I said, they wave Chris Paul. Chris Paul goes and
Speaker 2: finds a new home in San Antonio, which is a
Speaker 2: low key, very sneaky good move. A guy who can
Speaker 2: give you a ton of assists of Victor woman Yama
Speaker 2: and slow down the offense to a pace that actually
Speaker 2: makes sense, and not giving the ball to cheering me Sohn,
Speaker 2: which made no sense. CP three plays with another generational
Speaker 2: talent and help him improve the same way. I think
Speaker 2: that he was very good for DeAndre Aiden. Plus he
Speaker 2: can fill in for Greg Popovich if Greg Papovitch gets
Speaker 2: technicaled out of a game and yell when Greg Popovic
Speaker 2: either gets it you know, to kicked out or where
Speaker 2: he loses his voice. A lot of interesting smaller moves.
Speaker 2: Now losing Paul George and the Los Angeles Clippers make
Speaker 2: a couple of moves. They get Kevin Porter Junior. Like
Speaker 2: I said, two year deal, James Harden signs two year
Speaker 2: seventy million, which I don't know what to make of
Speaker 2: because to me, I felt like James Harden's value had
Speaker 2: diminished below thirty five million a year. But somehow he's
Speaker 2: saying he's taking a pay cut to be a good
Speaker 2: team guy. He left money on the table, that's what
Speaker 2: they're saying. The Clippers are now going to move Russell
Speaker 2: Westbrook somewhere.
Speaker 1: It might be the Nuggets.
Speaker 2: Who knows who does not shoot threes well, but he
Speaker 2: does play defense. If Kawhi goes down, I think this
Speaker 2: Clippers team could win thirty games, maybe less.
Speaker 1: Honestly, maybe less.
Speaker 2: Who's on that team besides Terrence Man, I don't I
Speaker 2: don't think anyone if Kawhi is injured. Phoenix has made
Speaker 2: some interesting moves. They signed Mason Plumley to a one
Speaker 2: year deal. They re signed Roy O'Neill four years.
Speaker 1: Forty four million.
Speaker 2: They brought Bull Bowl back on a one year deal,
Speaker 2: which none of this move is the needle in anyway
Speaker 2: for me. The Sons are in deep shit, deep shit.
Speaker 1: The Sixers.
Speaker 2: I think Darryl Moury only knows like has like ten
Speaker 2: players numbers in his phone because he brings back Eric Gordon, Like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I don't know what the deal terms are, but Eric
Speaker 2: Gordon is back in the mix. Like he literally just
Speaker 2: brings guys over that used to play for him in Houston,
Speaker 2: just like PJ.
Speaker 1: Tucker. Is anyone else noticing this?
Speaker 2: He brought back Andre Drummond, who was on the Sixers
Speaker 2: at one point, to backup and beat. And then of
Speaker 2: course the Wizards, my man Troy Weaver comes in as
Speaker 2: a consultant and immediately starts fucking shit up. They drafted
Speaker 2: a center with the number two pick in Alex Aar
Speaker 2: and then went out and signed not one, but two
Speaker 2: free agent centers when they already have a center in
Speaker 2: Marvin Bagley, who, by the way, already played for Troy Weaver,
Speaker 2: Jonas Valanciunis, mister Powdy mcpotterson himself three years.
Speaker 1: Thirty million, what.
Speaker 2: Rashawn Holmes is getting thirteen million, two years twenty six million.
Speaker 2: I thought Rashawn Holmes was not gonna be an NBA
Speaker 2: player anymore.
Speaker 1: Wasn't Rashawn Holmes on the Wizards? I don't know, wasn't
Speaker 1: he on the Pistons? I don't know. Washington has people in.
Speaker 2: Charge, but boy, oh boy, does this feel like some
Speaker 2: old Wizard shit. Actually, it sounds more like old pisto
Speaker 2: and shit, because like they love, they loved having five
Speaker 2: centers on the team that they didn't know what to
Speaker 2: do with Jesus Christ. Finally, the MAVs made a big move,
Speaker 2: but it will also end up costing them. They signed
Speaker 2: Pelican's Naji Marshall three years twenty seven million, which I like.
Speaker 2: Naji Marshall was really good in that Pelican series in
Speaker 2: the first rounds. But it turns out they're probably losing
Speaker 2: Dereck Jones Junior in the in the process on a
Speaker 2: technicality because he switched agents and there's like some fifteen
Speaker 2: day waiting period, some sort of technicality where he can
Speaker 2: have to wait before he can resign, and that apparently
Speaker 2: is going to be too late.
Speaker 1: They both have eyes.
Speaker 2: On Klay Thompson. There were a ton of players who
Speaker 2: resigned with their teams. Here a list of the important ones.
Speaker 2: Pistons resigned Kate Cunningham five years, two hundred and twenty
Speaker 2: seven million dollars on a max extension. Raptors resigned Scottie
Speaker 2: Barnes five years to twenty five on a max extension.
Speaker 2: That's a shitload of money for a guy who can't
Speaker 2: shoot threes. Emmanuel Quickly five years one to seventy five
Speaker 2: to the Raptors, Wow bam Adebayo three years one sixty
Speaker 2: six to the Heat Pascal Siakam gets resigned four years
Speaker 2: one ninety to the Pacers. Nick Claxton does end up
Speaker 2: resigning with the Nets, which is pretty surprising four years,
Speaker 2: one hundred million, which is kind of what I thought.
Speaker 2: Of course, we know about the King's resigning. Malik Monk
Speaker 2: four year, four years seventy eight million, Kevin Love two
Speaker 2: years eight million back to the Heat. Oh, how the
Speaker 2: mighty have fallen. Here's an interesting one that no one
Speaker 2: saw coming. Max Christie resigns.
Speaker 1: Four years, thirty two million dollars with the Lakers.
Speaker 2: Are we sure Max Christy isn't a clutch client, because
Speaker 2: that's the only thing that would make sense to me.
Speaker 2: Obi top End resigns at four years sixty million to
Speaker 2: the Pacers, which is fascinating considering that the Pacers still
Speaker 2: have Jeris Walker on the roster.
Speaker 1: So what's gonna make mean for him? Is he gonna what?
Speaker 2: I really don't know how he's gonna get into the rotation.
Speaker 2: Alex lenn resigns with the Kings one year, three million,
Speaker 2: Patrick William five years ninety millions to.
Speaker 1: Stay with the Bulls. Holy shit, Bulls, what's the vision?
Speaker 2: DeAndre Jordan re signs that one year three point six
Speaker 2: million to the Nuggets.
Speaker 1: Just to make sure that those nicolea you'gic on off
Speaker 1: splits are still abysmal.
Speaker 2: Luke Cornett on a one year deal and to MIAs
Speaker 2: Cada on a four year deal to the Celtics. Hell yeah,
Speaker 2: Tomas Cada, get your Bread. The following players had their
Speaker 2: options picked up or opted.
Speaker 1: Into their player options.
Speaker 2: Jericho Sims Knicks, Cam Reddish by the Lakers, Tory Craig
Speaker 2: to the Bulls. I don't know what they're doing, Garrison
Speaker 2: Matthews by the Hawks, Wile Jayshawn Tate by the Rockets,
Speaker 2: Sam Houser by the Celtics, Delano'banton by the Blazers, Jackson
Speaker 2: Hayes to the Lakers, Josh Richardson to the Heat, Bruce
Speaker 2: Brown to the Raptors, which is just to portray piece,
Speaker 2: let's be honest, and PJ Tucker the Clippers, which be honest,
Speaker 2: probably is a trade clip trip as well. There's some
Speaker 2: players though being released by their teams or having their
Speaker 2: team options declined, making them free agents. Oh also, I
Speaker 2: think d Low opted into his contract and he's gonna
Speaker 2: be traded anyway. Including ten first rounders and five lottery picks.
Speaker 2: Teams are just like, we don't want you, baby, Joe
Speaker 2: Ingles by the Magic, Sidik Bay by the Hawks nineteenth
Speaker 2: pick in twenty twenty. Omar, you're at seven. Kyra Lewis
Speaker 2: thirteenth pick in twenty twenty, which makes perfect sense. Potter
Speaker 2: by the Jazz, Dominic Barlow by the Spurs. A lot
Speaker 2: of Spurs fans very pissed about that one, which, like,
Speaker 2: I just don't know that we need to get up
Speaker 2: in arms about that. Tristan Vucevich forty second pick in
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty three draft by the Wizards, Xavier Moon, who,
Speaker 2: by the way, last year in the Summer League was
Speaker 2: an I could think he was. Paul George kai Jones
Speaker 2: nineteen pick and twenty twenty one by the Clippers, um
Speaker 2: Killian Hayes number seven pick over in twenty twenty, Evan Fournier,
Speaker 2: Buddy Beheim chim as he met to Stanley Umoud, Troy
Speaker 2: Brown who is the fifteenth pick in twenty eighteen, and
Speaker 2: James fucking Wiseman Warriors pick number two in the draft
Speaker 2: in twenty.
Speaker 1: Twenty by the Pistons.
Speaker 2: Trajan Langdon basically waiving the entirety of Troy weavers life's work.
Speaker 1: Honestly, He's like, fuck these guys. These guys fucking stink, honestly.
Speaker 2: Pressure Toe Chewia number twenty in twenty twenty, which is
Speaker 2: very sad.
Speaker 1: Dakwan Jeffries by the Knicks.
Speaker 2: Luke Kennard twelfth pick in twenty seventeen, but they're actually
Speaker 2: working on a long term deal Chuma Okeeke sixteenth pick
Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen by the Hornets, Mo Wagner by the Magics,
Speaker 2: but I think that they're still working at a long
Speaker 2: term deal for him, Isaiah Joe and Aaron Wiggins, but
Speaker 2: they're working out long term deals with okc Lester Keonees
Speaker 2: by the Warriors and Seth Curry by the Hornets. Wow
Speaker 2: players currently opting out of the player options and becoming
Speaker 2: free agents. Jalen Smith opted out of his final year
Speaker 2: of the Pacers contract, Damian Lee and Joshua Kogi opted
Speaker 2: out of the final year of the Sun's contract, Caleb
Speaker 2: Martin heading to other places leaving the Heat, and Thomas
Speaker 2: Bryant opting out of his final year with the Heat
Speaker 2: as well. So much to get over later, but that's
Speaker 2: it for now.
Speaker 1: On a Sunday night night, that's pretty much all popping
Speaker 1: as of midnight.
Speaker 2: Let's turn to an interview I did with NBI insider
Speaker 2: Trevor Lane on the Front Office show. He was joined
Speaker 2: on my other show at MGM Tonight, which airs on
Speaker 2: the radio in most as markets from seven to eleven
Speaker 2: Eastern and live on Twitch and YouTube as well. I'm
Speaker 2: joined by my other co host, Nick Ashew and Ryan Horbot.
Speaker 2: Was a fascinating interview, by the way, So let's get
Speaker 2: right into which.
Speaker 3: Ah and with that, there's no way to segue to
Speaker 3: Trevor Lane, but we will with that. Maybe he's going
Speaker 3: to a farmer's market tomorrow, I have no idea. Let's
Speaker 3: start with before we get to the Lakers, the breaking
Speaker 3: news to Jontay Murray getting traded, uh to the Pelicans.
Speaker 3: All three of us really do like this move. Think
Speaker 3: it's a certainly a better spot for him. Your thoughts
Speaker 3: on that trade and maybe farmer's markets too, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Way, yeah, I mean, first of all, that was a
Speaker 4: great movie reference there. I love it old school, but
Speaker 4: uh yeah, look, de Jontay Murray ultimately going to the
Speaker 4: to the Pelicans obviously a big disappointment for Lakers fans
Speaker 4: who were hoping to get to Jontay Murray in a trade.
Speaker 5: Honestly, I'm a little.
Speaker 4: Bit underwhelmed by what the Hawks got in returning to
Speaker 4: Jontay Murray in a couple of second round for Johntay Murray,
Speaker 4: a couple of second round picks and then.
Speaker 5: Dyson Daniels, who's a fine player.
Speaker 4: But you know, if you're Atlanta, you move away from
Speaker 4: the Tree Young Murray experiment and you move into the
Speaker 4: future round Alex Sar, Trey Young, and then you move
Speaker 4: on from there.
Speaker 2: I think it was two first round picks, was it not?
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm tripping. I thought it was too.
Speaker 3: Fir yeahs swap So no, not a swap. Sorry, but
Speaker 3: it's twenty.
Speaker 2: Twenty five first round pick in a twenty twenty seven
Speaker 2: first round pick, but the least favorable of locks to
Speaker 2: tell us that which'll probably be we may maybe it's
Speaker 2: maybe it's box Bucks could be imploding.
Speaker 1: We never know, Trevor would ever know.
Speaker 2: In terms of the Lakers moves, we've been hearing pretty
Speaker 2: much all off season that Rob Polinka just thinks it's impossible.
Speaker 1: To make trades. But here we are with all of
Speaker 1: these trades happening.
Speaker 2: As somebody who covers this team and is tapped into
Speaker 2: the fan base, how infuriating is it to watch players
Speaker 2: that you want to come to your team end up
Speaker 2: on pretty favorable trades.
Speaker 4: Well, certainly there's a lot of Lakers fans out there
Speaker 4: right now that are questioning whether or not.
Speaker 5: The Lakers tax is real.
Speaker 4: If this is a real thing, like teams just don't
Speaker 4: seem to want to trade with the Lakers now. I
Speaker 4: think you can make an argument here that when you're
Speaker 4: in the Hawks position and you can get a twenty
Speaker 4: twenty five first round pick, which is ironically the Lakers
Speaker 4: first round pick, but not something the Lakers could offer,
Speaker 4: that there is certainly some value in that, especially when
Speaker 4: we look at Cooper Flag and him being a guy
Speaker 4: who could potentially be available in this twenty twenty five draft.
Speaker 4: So that is certainly something and it's something to keep
Speaker 4: in mind when we're evaluating this. But yeah, from a
Speaker 4: Lakers perspective, seeing de Jon taint Murray, who is a
Speaker 4: guy the Lakers were heavily involved in targeting last trade deadline,
Speaker 4: seeing him go elsewhere doesn't feel great, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: Who is on the target list now in terms of
Speaker 2: like Laker potential Lakers that you guys might want to
Speaker 2: acquire in the offseason.
Speaker 5: Sure, I mean there's a few guys.
Speaker 4: When we look at Cam Johnson from the Nets, that's
Speaker 4: a player who you know, we're expecting that team to
Speaker 4: try to move towards the future. Move off of some
Speaker 4: long term salaries, so maybe there's something there.
Speaker 5: Jeremy Grant.
Speaker 4: I always hesitate with the Portland Trail Blazers though, because
Speaker 4: they've never traded with the Lakers, and that's that's kind
Speaker 4: of a source of pride for the Blazers that they
Speaker 4: have executed to trade with the Lakers. So that's part
Speaker 4: of it too, right, So j Grant somebody who could
Speaker 4: be out there. Maybe I think it would make sense
Speaker 4: for the Blazers to move on from them. But would
Speaker 4: you know he actually send Would they actually send Jeremy
Speaker 4: Grant to the Lakers?
Speaker 5: That's a question, but exactly they really do.
Speaker 4: But de Jontay Murray was the biggest name probably that
Speaker 4: was realistic out there, especially now with Trey Young almost
Speaker 4: certainly staying in Atlanta with the Murray trade. So it's uh,
Speaker 4: it's slim Pickens at this point.
Speaker 6: I was a big fan of the Brownie pick because
Speaker 6: it made me a bunch of money, and I like
Speaker 6: a good storyline and I'm just hashtag team Dad and
Speaker 6: I just like, what were you gonna do a pick
Speaker 6: fifty five? I don't think anything was really going to
Speaker 6: move the needle for this team.
Speaker 4: What were your thoughts same, you know, And I'm right
Speaker 4: there too, And I think it's an interesting divide between
Speaker 4: people who are parents there are people who are not.
Speaker 5: People like myself who I have a daughter. I think about, Hey, how.
Speaker 4: Amazing would it be to be able to do something
Speaker 4: like that with your kid, And so that, you know,
Speaker 4: I got to sympathize or empathize.
Speaker 5: With with that type of situation.
Speaker 4: But I do think that at the fifty five pick
Speaker 4: in the NBA draft, look, there is there's legitimately players
Speaker 4: that are at that stage of the draft that are
Speaker 4: telling teams don't draft me because they want to go
Speaker 4: somewhere an undrafted free agency. So I'm not gonna worry
Speaker 4: that much about it. It's not like it's not like
Speaker 4: they spent the seventeenth pick on him. I don't think
Speaker 4: that there's a reason for all of this outcry over
Speaker 4: the Browny selection using that pick. I think that's more
Speaker 4: than fine on Bronnie. And you know what, he is
Speaker 4: a legitimate NBA talent in his own right that is
Speaker 4: worthy of being selected there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we also know, I mean, yet how many players
Speaker 3: at fifty five and it's really gone on to Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean it's like like men who went at fifty
Speaker 3: seven Isaiah Thomas, the Thomas last pick of the draft,
Speaker 3: and again there could be somebody in this, but yeah,
Speaker 3: you look at this and say it just it made
Speaker 3: more sense for them, I think at that point to
Speaker 3: go with the unique story that's there. Talking to Trevor
Speaker 3: Lane bet MGM tonight. So now you say obviously that
Speaker 3: you think Bronnie is obviously an NBA talent in his
Speaker 3: own right, What does his rookie season look like with
Speaker 3: this team in your eyes?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he's going to spend a lot of
Speaker 4: time with the South Bay Lakers. He'll be with the
Speaker 4: G League club, he'll be developing. And that was a
Speaker 4: big part of this was Clutch Sports Rich Paul. They
Speaker 4: wanted to make sure that Bronnie was with a team
Speaker 4: that was going to be invested in his future and
Speaker 4: developing him and understanding that he's not ready to step
Speaker 4: into the NBA right away. Yes, he'll be a draw
Speaker 4: at Summer League. They'll be buzz in the building with
Speaker 4: Bronnie is playing, but he's not going to be expected
Speaker 4: to step on the floor and play right away for
Speaker 4: the Lakers, and that's going to be a critical part
Speaker 4: of this, giving him that time to develop. He is
Speaker 4: a legitimate talent, but it's going to take him time
Speaker 4: to get to the point to where he is able
Speaker 4: to step on the floor in the NBA. I do
Speaker 4: think we'll see him have that moment where he plays
Speaker 4: with his dad, and that's going to be an incredible moment.
Speaker 4: But I would not expect to see him night in,
Speaker 4: night out playing with the Lakers. I think he's going
Speaker 4: to be spending most of his time playing with the
Speaker 4: South Bay Lakers in the G League.
Speaker 2: It feels like Trevor, Paul George, and Clay Thompson are
Speaker 2: somewhat bells of the ball in this free agency, a
Speaker 2: lot of options, teams trying to figure out a way
Speaker 2: to make those deals work. What would be your prediction
Speaker 2: in terms of where those two players go?
Speaker 4: You know what I think when we look at this,
Speaker 4: we look at Klay Thompson, we look at Paul George.
Speaker 4: I think specifically, this is actually a win for the
Speaker 4: NBA in terms of their new collective bargaining agreement. This
Speaker 4: was done with targets painted on the backs of the
Speaker 4: Warriors and the Clippers to try to force them to
Speaker 4: move talent off their rosters and really target these big
Speaker 4: spenders and and send some of this talent to other
Speaker 4: teams around the NBA. And so Klay Thompson and Paul
Speaker 4: George specifically being two guys who could wind up leaving
Speaker 4: their teams and going elsewhere. I think the NBA is
Speaker 4: going to be able to point to the CBA and
Speaker 4: say it's working, this was the plan. It's working. You've
Speaker 4: got the Clippers with Steve Bomber, who has infinite money
Speaker 4: now balking at the idea of paying Paul George and
Speaker 4: giving him a four year deal and ultimately sending him
Speaker 4: on somewhere else. You know, I think that's a big
Speaker 4: piece to this story here. But in terms of ultimately
Speaker 4: where these guys wind up, I do kind of buy into,
Speaker 4: as strange as it sounds, the Warriors being interested in
Speaker 4: Paul George, but I have a hard time not believing
Speaker 4: that he's just going to walk into Phillies camp space.
Speaker 4: It seems like it's such a clean exit for him
Speaker 4: to go head over to the Eastern Conference where things
Speaker 4: are much much easier and walk into that Philadelphia seventy
Speaker 4: six or camp space. And then when I look at
Speaker 4: Klay Thompson and I see what the Orlando Magic need
Speaker 4: another Eastern Conference team.
Speaker 5: I think he makes a lot of sense there.
Speaker 4: So if their incumbent teams don't come with the offers
Speaker 4: that they're looking for, and so far that has been
Speaker 4: the case, the offers are not there for them, it
Speaker 4: wouldn't shock me at both of these guys wind up
Speaker 4: making a move.
Speaker 5: Eastward really quick.
Speaker 1: Casep also looks like he's going to be a free agent.
Speaker 2: I saw some comments by GM Calvin Booth that were
Speaker 2: very similar to the comments that he made about Bruce
Speaker 2: Brown last year, basically saying if Casep.
Speaker 1: Walks, we're going to be just fine.
Speaker 2: And that's what he said last year, and they were
Speaker 2: not Trevor just fine. Like what's your take on what's
Speaker 2: happening with the Nuggets and just that perspective from Nuggets
Speaker 2: GM Calvin Booth.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're on the money. I drew the exact same connection.
Speaker 4: I said, gosh, they said the same stuff last year
Speaker 4: with Bruce Brown. They were talking about Peyton Watson and
Speaker 4: how he was going to step into this role and
Speaker 4: everybody was going to be so impressed with him. And
Speaker 4: I like Peyton Watson, but losing Bruce Brown certainly hurt
Speaker 4: the Denver Nuggets, and cous Cobo Pope.
Speaker 5: Will be an even bigger blow.
Speaker 4: I think he's one of the best three and D
Speaker 4: guards out there in the NBA. I think he will
Speaker 4: be a big loss for the Denver Nuggets. And again,
Speaker 4: this is when we're looking at these teams that are
Speaker 4: right up against that second tier apron These are the
Speaker 4: kind of difficult decisions that the NBA wanted them to
Speaker 4: have to make to redistribute talent around the league. So
Speaker 4: Contavious Coal Pope is a guy that's going to be
Speaker 4: in high demand.
Speaker 5: Around the league.
Speaker 4: We know the three and D skill set is something
Speaker 4: that everybody is looking for. KCP being a multiple time
Speaker 4: champion now with multiple clubs, he is going to be
Speaker 4: a key target.
Speaker 5: Like if if Philly.
Speaker 4: Does not wind up with Paul George, like I was predicting,
Speaker 4: they could easily pivot to Kntavious Colboll Pope and make
Speaker 4: that would make a lot of sense for them. So
Speaker 4: I do think that Denver appears to be resigned to
Speaker 4: their fate that they're going to lose Contavious Cobwoll Pope.
Speaker 4: And despite the brave face they might be putting on.
Speaker 4: It is going to hurt.
Speaker 6: Do you think Cleveland looks to do anything with Evan
Speaker 6: Mobley or Jared Allen, maybe looks to move one of
Speaker 6: those two.
Speaker 5: I think they keep them. I think they keep you know.
Speaker 4: I know there's been some talk about Jared Allen and
Speaker 4: potentially moving on from him, but I think he's a
Speaker 4: really good big on a on a great contract. I
Speaker 4: don't have a problem with the twenty million dollars that
Speaker 4: he is owed. I think that makes a lot of
Speaker 4: sense to keep that pairing together. Even Darius Garland they're
Speaker 4: calling his bluff currently, we'll see and when push comes
Speaker 4: to shove. But if he has for a trade after
Speaker 4: a Donovan Mitchell deal gets done, I do think that
Speaker 4: the Cavs are they're invested in this group. Maybe they
Speaker 4: ultimately move on from guard Erland if he does ask
Speaker 4: for a deal, But I think Jared Allen, Evan Bobley,
Speaker 4: I think they're guys to build around for the future.
Speaker 5: They're building blocks.
Speaker 4: Donovan Mitchell is said to be a big fan of
Speaker 4: Jared Allen, and if that's the case, I don't see
Speaker 4: him going anywhere.
Speaker 3: Talking to Trevor Lane BETTEMGM tonight. We've talked obviously about
Speaker 3: a lot of teams that have a lot of needs
Speaker 3: and a lot of offseason decisions to make. But we
Speaker 3: obviously we obviously, if I could speak, it's a Friday,
Speaker 3: this is how things go. We watched the Knicks have
Speaker 3: right now to this point, the most aggressive offseason with anybody.
Speaker 3: And it's really not even official, but we know this
Speaker 3: is how the NBA works. The stuff's agreed upon long
Speaker 3: before it actually becomes official. Is there any other team
Speaker 3: East or West, doesn't matter that you look at and
Speaker 3: you say, I think they could try to at least
Speaker 3: match what the Knicks did in terms of major regression
Speaker 3: and spending money. And obviously they're retaining some guys too.
Speaker 3: It's really the Michail Bridges trade that was the big deal.
Speaker 3: But somebody that may have the same mindset that the
Speaker 3: Knicks have already had.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I look at one team out west, the
Speaker 4: Sacramento Kinks.
Speaker 5: You look at them in the situation that they're in
Speaker 5: right now.
Speaker 4: They got their taste the playoffs year before this past season,
Speaker 4: and they liked it. They hadn't hit the playoffs in
Speaker 4: seventeen years. They want to make sure that they are
Speaker 4: back there in that spot for the foreseeable future. They
Speaker 4: want to be that playoff team, and you look at
Speaker 4: what they've got right now, you can tell they're probably
Speaker 4: a piece short.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 4: The West is extremely difficult. This is a brutal gauntlet
Speaker 4: to get through the West. But they've already been connected
Speaker 4: to guys like Zach Levine. They've got a few pieces,
Speaker 4: specifically Harrison Barnes, a guy they're looking to upgrade from.
Speaker 4: I look at Sacramento, particularly with Daron Fox not agreeing
Speaker 4: to an extension with them just yet and wanting to
Speaker 4: see what they're going to do. I think Sacramento could
Speaker 4: be the next team to make a big move, whether
Speaker 4: it's Zach Levine or somebody else. They've already had a
Speaker 4: good summer retaining Malik Monk, and now I think they
Speaker 4: could be in play to make the next big move
Speaker 4: and land another wing to help out this roster.
Speaker 2: Trevor, the Chicago Bulls have been a team that I
Speaker 2: feel like has been delusional about their standing in the NBA,
Speaker 2: and now it feels like the vision is becoming a
Speaker 2: lo little bit clearer for them that they can't keep
Speaker 2: doing the things that they've been doing. I still don't
Speaker 2: understand though, what it is that they're trying to do,
Speaker 2: you know, getting Josh Gitty and then Madus, who are
Speaker 2: similar players in the sense that they can't shoot. Can
Speaker 2: you help help us understand what it is their vision is.
Speaker 5: I wish I could. I wish I wish I could.
Speaker 4: Nobody knows what the what the Bulls are doing at
Speaker 4: this point. You know, we've been saying for a while
Speaker 4: now that they needed to move on. They had that brief,
Speaker 4: brief period where they had Lonzo Ball was healthy and
Speaker 4: they looked like this exciting, fun team, and everything has
Speaker 4: just fallen apart since then. I'm worried that they're going
Speaker 4: to give too much money to Demartin Rose and to
Speaker 4: stick around just in an attempt to stay in the
Speaker 4: play in. They were rumored to have been offered a
Speaker 4: top ten pick last year at the trade deadline and
Speaker 4: not take that for Alex Caruso instead because they wanted
Speaker 4: to make the play in, instead taking the deal for
Speaker 4: Josh Gitty this summer. I sure hope, and I know
Speaker 4: Bulls fans are ready for it too, that they do
Speaker 4: decide ultimately to fully commit to a rebuild. Because it's
Speaker 4: what they need right now, and it's what Bulls fans deserve.
Speaker 4: And you know what this whole adage of well, fans
Speaker 4: aren't going to be patient for something like that, They're
Speaker 4: not going to sit through it. No, NBA fans are
Speaker 4: smarter than that. They understand what it is that teams
Speaker 4: are looking to do. As long as there is a
Speaker 4: clear plan, as long as you can see what that
Speaker 4: end goal is, fans will buy in, fans will stay loyal.
Speaker 4: And that's what I think the Bulls need to do.
Speaker 4: They need to fully commit to the rebuild. That might
Speaker 4: mean a sign and trade for Demato Rose and send
Speaker 4: them somewhere else and give this team a much brighter future.
Speaker 4: That's what the Bulls need to do right now.
Speaker 3: Has someone that covered the Wizards myself? I watched that
Speaker 3: team do the same thing for years. It was all
Speaker 3: about getting the eighth seed and that's it, and all
Speaker 3: it does is delay the inevitable for an organization. So
Speaker 3: maybe the Bulls have finally figured that part out. Trevor Lane,
Speaker 3: host of The Front Office Show, and Lakers love having
Speaker 3: you on, man, really appreciate it.
Speaker 5: Hey, thanks, guys, appreciate you having me.
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