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Speaker 1: Just to let you know I love you.

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Speaker 2: Good good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the Nodunks

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Speaker 2: podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Wednesday, February fourteenth, twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four. Happy Valentine's Day, you love birds. I'm J

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Speaker 2: Skeats here in the Classic Factory and alongside me as

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Speaker 2: always tastmel.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, podcast listeners, I love you.

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Speaker 2: Next to him, it's the Beard One, Natasha Hotboy, Trey Kirbie, Hey,

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Speaker 2: hey yo, and last but not least, making the magic happen,

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Speaker 2: super producer JD. Hello, there is and here we are

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Speaker 2: coming up a little bit later some NBA themed Valentine's

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Speaker 2: a five star radar and review. But we start with

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Speaker 2: some recapping of last night's games. We'll jump around here

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Speaker 2: a little bit, but let's start with the first game

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Speaker 2: on TNT. It was Jalen Williams, it was Shay Gildos Alexander,

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Speaker 2: and it was the Thunder beating the Magic one twenty

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Speaker 2: seven one thirteen. We had this one on playback last

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Speaker 2: night close for a while and then okay see pulled away.

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Speaker 3: What do you think, Yeah, it was a smash job

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Speaker 3: by okay See late. But I don't know if it's

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Speaker 3: just Valatin's he But I love watching these two teams

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Speaker 3: some love in the air. There's just some great play

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Speaker 3: from both of them. Shag Gills Alexander gets Jaalen Suggs

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Speaker 3: on his back. Well, the beautiful turnaround. Franz Wagner did

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Speaker 3: the same thing, a beautiful turnaround. But once he did

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Speaker 3: that in the post and he shook Chet Holkern real bad.

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Speaker 3: But he was still a little worried, Oh Chet's gonna

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Speaker 3: block my Snot because they have so many good players

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Speaker 3: on Oka See. As they said at the beginning of

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Speaker 3: the broadcast, all their guys are twenty five or younger,

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Speaker 3: and their starting lineup they're super, super duper young. So

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Speaker 3: I just can't wait to see this team going into

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Speaker 3: the playoffs. As we were watching out playback, somebody said,

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Speaker 3: when Jalen Williams hit a three, that guy, that guy

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Speaker 3: should be in the three point contest. He's shooting forty

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Speaker 3: five percent from three, And I said, whoa, but he

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Speaker 3: doesn't shoot that many. I had to go there. The

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Speaker 3: should say shoots a lot of threes. Nobody shoots five

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Speaker 3: threes or more on that team. They're a great team.

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Speaker 3: I mean they just bring it down. Even your Isaiah

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Speaker 3: Joe's don't shoot five threes and Jalen Willms just shoots threes.

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Speaker 3: They're just so so into the identity and who they

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Speaker 3: are and they are absolutely playing for Digno the way

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Speaker 3: they should be playing. So it was a fun game,

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Speaker 3: loved it. Orlando just need the guard, just needs that.

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Speaker 3: Even after the game when they retired Shacks Jersey, Paul

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Speaker 3: Boncaro was asked about the Shacks Jersey being retired, he said, yeah,

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Speaker 3: well he didn't win, you know, that was part of

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Speaker 3: his answer. He was just mad. I mean they have

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Speaker 3: a great identity I think in a way, but yeah,

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Speaker 3: he needs some help. He's good, but he needs help.

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Speaker 2: Jalen Williams scored thirty three points and SGA had thirty two,

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Speaker 2: and and they took turns with the takeover SGA third quarter.

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Speaker 2: He went nuts thirteen points, thirteen points during a five

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Speaker 2: later on he's telling Magic fans to go home after

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Speaker 2: he hit a very tough baseline shot with like two

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Speaker 1: They're already there, man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Shack dropped a great line. I can't go home.

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Speaker 2: I sold my home. It was very very funny. Sold

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Speaker 2: my house. And then Jay Dubb took over in the

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Speaker 2: fourth quarter. And that's what this guy does. He's done

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Speaker 2: this time and time again this season, just multiple times,

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Speaker 2: I think he had ten straight there to start that queue.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they are pretty lucky to have two absolute nails

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Speaker 4: crunch time scorers. We've seen chat Holmgren hit a lot

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Speaker 4: You can just tell they're a little further along in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they're right there. I can't wait for

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Speaker 2: they can go. I actually maybe it was obviously it

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Speaker 2: was tough not to see some similarities between this Okac

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Speaker 2: Not how they play and not like Shay or j

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Speaker 2: Dubbish like Shack, but just like they're a team that

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Speaker 2: And that was sort of like, you know what that

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Speaker 2: it didn't take long led by Shack to obviously go

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Speaker 1: But that's part of the question.

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Speaker 4: I think even that Orlando Magic team, they lost their

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Speaker 4: also hear Okase compared to the Kevin Durant Thunder team

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Speaker 4: that went to the finals in twenty twelve, they lost

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Speaker 4: the first round series the first time they went to

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Speaker 4: Then they finally made it to the finals. You gotta

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Speaker 4: the question for me is does the play in tournament count?

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Speaker 4: The Thunder made it last year. Do you even remember

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Speaker 4: what happened with them?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Does it count?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, nobody remembers.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it counts in the sense.

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Speaker 4: They lost, well, they didn't make the playoffs. So they

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Speaker 4: beat the Pelicans without Zion in the first one. Shay

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Speaker 4: lucky win when you really look at it. Then they

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Speaker 4: lost their second game the Timberwolves by twenty five shot

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Speaker 4: thirty six percent with seventeen turnovers. Looked like a young

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Speaker 4: Does it count as losing a first round series? Is

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Speaker 4: that the same?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Shae already lost a first round series with the Clippers, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean he was in the lost thunder Chris Paul. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: But no, I don't doesn't to me, doesn't mean it.

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Speaker 2: Well, hold on, it's a positive to have a big games,

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Speaker 2: big moments where you either overcome them or come up

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Speaker 2: short and maybe learn something from it. Be it in

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Speaker 2: his Clippers days, Thunder days, where at the Chris Paul

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Speaker 2: where now it's a completely different team of course, and

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Speaker 2: then those playing the win and loss. But an actual

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Speaker 2: that's that's a little different to me. But you're right, Trey,

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Speaker 2: Like those teams you listed back to, either the Magic

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Speaker 2: Days or whatever team you want to pick, you usually

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Speaker 2: have to take your lumps that's how it just usually goes. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but every once in a while there's a special team

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Speaker 2: or a finals, or or hell, even a win. But

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Speaker 2: I don't think people will be betting right now that, Okay,

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Speaker 2: so he's gonna win a championship this year. If I

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Speaker 2: I'll take that bet. I like their chances right right.

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Speaker 3: It comes down to will they win a first round

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Speaker 3: does that actually help them out while everybody else wasn't

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Speaker 3: I think when you look at the Western Conference standings,

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Speaker 3: you can literally look at all the eight teams. There's

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Speaker 3: going to be ten minus two when they get there,

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Speaker 3: all eight teams, and you would be shocked when one

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Speaker 3: second round, right, all eight can go to the secon round,

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Speaker 3: literally all eight.

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Speaker 2: Because you're saying it could be a King, so it

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Speaker 2: could be a Warriors, it could be a Lakers, it

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Speaker 2: could be Clippers, Pelicans.

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Speaker 3: Beyond the Clippers, thunder Nuggets, and Timberwolves. Tier there. Okay,

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Speaker 3: they're the top four. You'd be surprised by one of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But I think it's more likely that one of

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Speaker 4: And it's crazy because outside of I mean the Clippers

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Speaker 4: they won the champion together last year. The Clippers, all

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Speaker 4: See plays with such confidence and I love Jalen Williams.

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Speaker 4: In the postgame interview afterwards, Dennis Scott asked him basically

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Speaker 4: was baller answer that for sure. Well, after the game,

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Speaker 4: the Magic did retire Shaquille O'Neills number thirty two jersey,

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Speaker 4: the first enfranchise history, Shack becoming just the second player

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Speaker 4: in NBA history to have his jersey retired by three

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Speaker 4: different franchises he played for, joining Hall of Famer Wilt Chamberlain.

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Speaker 2: There's the whole pistol. Pete Merovich, you know, has A

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Speaker 2: tass shacks number thirty two goes up to the Orlando Rafters.

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Speaker 2: Did you watch any of the postgame celebration? That's how

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Speaker 2: shacks jersey being retired there, I went back.

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Speaker 3: I thought back to when he was on TNT and

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Speaker 3: I got put in the ring of honor. I thought

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Speaker 3: I was getting my jersey retired, and it seemed a

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Speaker 3: little upset by that. He also said I was Victor

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that's true. My one my only complaint with

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Speaker 2: That's the stupidest thing I've ever seen. That's not the

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Speaker 3: He is changing. Big dogs don't.

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Speaker 1: Drive, don't drive. That's awesome.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Brian Hills speech, he was saying, like all

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Speaker 2: like all of that, all of the Shaq endorsements.

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Speaker 2: Like any other person, it's like, what a fucking sellout,

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Speaker 2: It might be or also, we need to make sure

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Speaker 2: Good point dot com. When you agree with something, somebody says,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Any he actually he took the podium before the

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Speaker 1: That's it. Nothing else matters.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So yeah, he's also he's also great on the mic.

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Speaker 3: I mean just the one lines.

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Speaker 2: There a lot of the broadcasts he has been like

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Speaker 2: The Suns outlasted the Kings despite a monster triple double

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Speaker 4: He's leading the league in triple doubles right now, just

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Speaker 4: I thought Royce O'Neill and just getting those role player

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Speaker 2: Yep, But they obviously got the victory and one more game.

431
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Speaker 2: Like you said here before the All Star break, we

432
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Speaker 2: have twenty six of the thirty teams playing tonight, the

433
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Speaker 2: Wednesday night, and then obviously the final night before the

434
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Speaker 2: All Star Break. I guess there's three games on on

435
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Speaker 2: Thursday night. Moving on Jovic not Yokich. Jovic scores a

436
00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,560
Speaker 2: career high twenty four, Bam gets a triple double as

437
00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:08,399
Speaker 2: the Heat beat the Bucks one twenty three to ninety seven.

438
00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,840
Speaker 2: Duncan Rominson was great in this game, but yeah, Yovic

439
00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,880
Speaker 2: was the real standout star. Probably like the most shocking

440
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Speaker 2: win from the Miami Heat this season, maybe the most

441
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Speaker 2: impressive when you consider, like the guys they were missing

442
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Speaker 2: to go in and beat Milwaukee. But what do you

443
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Speaker 2: think of this one tough who?

444
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Speaker 3: It was hard to watch the Milwaukee Bucks after beating

445
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,720
Speaker 3: the Denver Nuggets and the way they did come out

446
00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,520
Speaker 3: and just lay one.

447
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:34,399
Speaker 2: It was in the first quarter.

448
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Okay, they're in a back to back, so

449
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,280
Speaker 3: maybe they should be tired, but you shouldn't allow forty

450
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Speaker 3: in the first quarter. Number one and number two. I

451
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,440
Speaker 3: just didn't think they were distributing the ball like they

452
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,120
Speaker 3: should be. They just weren't moving it around. So it's

453
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Speaker 3: hard to really decipher what's going on with this Doc

454
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Speaker 3: Rivers scenario. It just feels like maybe he hasn't gotten

455
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Speaker 3: through to them yet. Maybe he doesn't know everybody's names.

456
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Speaker 3: As he said, I don't know some of my young

457
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Speaker 3: guy's name, which I find hard to believe because I

458
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,359
Speaker 3: thought he was part of that whole thing, or in

459
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 3: the n season tournament where he talked to Adrian Griffin.

460
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:08,480
Speaker 3: You should know the young guys names. But it was

461
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Speaker 3: also on a broadcast. He was also on a broadcast.

462
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Speaker 2: So it's his job to know the young guys.

463
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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, anyway, maybe it was a joke and I

464
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 3: didn't like it, But anyway, maybe this All Star break

465
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Speaker 3: where they do get some time off, and they do

466
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Speaker 3: get some more practices, allows them to develop some things

467
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Speaker 3: and believe in each other. But I just can't buy

468
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Speaker 3: that this back to back is a reason that they

469
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Speaker 3: should fall flat the way they did and allow one

470
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Speaker 3: hundred and twenty three points to open three point shooters.

471
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Speaker 3: But also on the offensive end, again, they didn't seem

472
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Speaker 3: to be playing altogether like they should be.

473
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's the third game in four nights

474
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Speaker 4: for the Bucks. They just blew out two teams prior

475
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Speaker 4: to this, and the defense in those two games was

476
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Speaker 4: pretty solid.

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Speaker 1: They held the Hornets to eighty four points.

478
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Speaker 4: They don't got a lot of scores right now, but

479
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Speaker 4: they held the Nuggets to ninety five and beat them

480
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Speaker 4: so bad that they held out two of their starters

481
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Speaker 4: in the second half of the game.

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Speaker 1: So I'll give them a little bit of a break.

483
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Speaker 4: But this was one of their poorest defensive performances. I

484
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 4: thought since Doc Rivers has taken over, they just couldn't

485
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Speaker 4: keep up with the screening action that the heat were doing.

486
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Speaker 1: That's somewhere that the Bucks struggle.

487
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Speaker 4: Something Doc Rivers said he needed to change when he

488
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,640
Speaker 4: came in was navigating screens and the heat just runs

489
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 4: screen after screen after screen for their shooters, dribble, handoffs,

490
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,880
Speaker 4: pick and rolls. It led to Miami getting up forty

491
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Speaker 4: three pointers. They only averaged thirty three, which is eighteenth

492
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Speaker 4: in the league. They hit nineteen of them. Yeah, because

493
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 4: they were pretty open looks. The Bucks were just having

494
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 4: trouble communicating on the switches. Thirty four assists on forty

495
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 4: five makes for Miami. They just play really really well

496
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Speaker 4: against the Bucks just because I think they know how

497
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Speaker 4: to pick them apart is what it turns out to be.

498
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Speaker 1: But it's gonna be bad, and Nikola Yovich is good.

499
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, we got.

500
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Speaker 1: A great Nikola Jokic.

501
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 4: We've got a Nicola Yovich on his way up, and

502
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,479
Speaker 4: apparently a guy in the draft next season is going

503
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Speaker 4: to be Nicola topicch top I s It'd be like

504
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Speaker 4: in an English speaking nation if there was like a

505
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,120
Speaker 4: Nick James, a Nick Jones, and a Nick Johnson.

506
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Speaker 1: And they were all great players, so you don't get confusing.

507
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 2: They're almost fearful that Yovich is gonna be something here

508
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 2: like he might be because, like we were saying, like

509
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 2: when all the injuries happened, some of those guys. It

510
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 2: was like, Okay, maybe this is Caleb Martin's time to

511
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Speaker 2: sort of get going, and like he had a really

512
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 2: quiet night. It was Yovic going for twenty four seven,

513
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Speaker 2: three assists. He hit five threes. I mean he had

514
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Speaker 2: four guys hit all their threes. He said they hit nineteen. Yeah,

515
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 2: it was Duncan Robinson on fire. Hero did his thing,

516
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,640
Speaker 2: hitting three, Yovich hit five, and then Kevin Love, I mean,

517
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 2: a day before Valentine's Day. We should have seen it coming.

518
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 2: Kevin Love hit five threes as well. But yeah, this

519
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 2: guy's good too, and he will be because he's on

520
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 2: Miami Heat.

521
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Speaker 1: It's incredible to have average twenty five a game for

522
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Speaker 1: the next week.

523
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Speaker 2: Watch, watch it'll happen. I mean, Hakeays Junior was really

524
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Speaker 2: good off the bench too, But this was ass kicking

525
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 2: here and Bam had this triple double. A lot of that,

526
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Speaker 2: you know, starts the action starts with Bam and all

527
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 2: the screening and stuff like that, and the playmaking. He

528
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Speaker 2: shows us a big guy.

529
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

530
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Speaker 3: Nikola Jovitch is a guy that they said, no, we're

531
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Speaker 3: not including in trades, and we all wondered, why not,

532
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 3: Let's put.

533
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Speaker 4: Him in all the trades. They weren't putting hoke as

534
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 4: in trades. Yeah, Realovich was the guy on offer, but

535
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 4: he wasn't playing like this.

536
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Speaker 3: Oh. I thought it was going back to last year

537
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 3: that he wasn't involved in all the trades. But anyway,

538
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 3: I could be wrong. He had time to just lace

539
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 3: up every basketball. He just we're able to look at

540
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 3: the laces the way he was open. Same with Kevin

541
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Speaker 3: Love in this one. And yeah, they go going back

542
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Speaker 3: to last season in the way they were getting open.

543
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Speaker 3: Looksgainst this Milwaukee Bucks team in the first round when

544
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Speaker 3: they beat them, it looked it looked freaking similar. So

545
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 3: that is the scary part they did. It was three

546
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Speaker 3: games in five nights. They had two gays off before

547
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Speaker 3: the back to back. That's and I know, and I

548
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 3: know that the Doc Rivers thing is maybe something to

549
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 3: chew on here as we go into the break. But

550
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 3: you also got Jannison Damian literally going to play in

551
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Speaker 3: the All Star Game. You don't got a lot of

552
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Speaker 3: time and a lot of practices. I doubt they're gonna

553
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 3: get a lot of practices in. I think that's the Obviously,

554
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 3: this team is good, but they're not the two seed anymore,

555
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 3: and they ain't gonna finish there. Unfortunately, it's scary times

556
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 3: there for the Bucks.

557
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 4: Lillard is in a major slump right now. Sixteen points

558
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 4: on fourteen shots last night, five assists to three turnovers.

559
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 4: In his last twenty games a quarter of the season,

560
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 4: he's averaged averaging twenty three a game, which isn't a

561
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 4: lot for Damian Lillard, and he's shooting forty percent from

562
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 4: the field and thirty percent from three. For as much

563
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 4: as we talk about the two man game with Joannison Dame,

564
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 4: as much as we talk about the Buck's depth and

565
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 4: their defense, if Lillard isn't playing like a superstar, this

566
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 4: is not the team that people were expecting.

567
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good point because with like Damian Lillard

568
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 2: of old, it would be like three amazing games and

569
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 2: then there's maybe one where you can't hit a shot, right,

570
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 2: so it's a bad game. But it almost feels like

571
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Speaker 2: it feels flipped to me this year, where it's like

572
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Speaker 2: maybe one out of every four games is the big

573
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 2: Damian Lillard game. And I know maybe the stats don't

574
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 2: back that up, but it feels like that where he

575
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Speaker 2: doesn't have like those monster games in a row, he's

576
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Speaker 2: struggling to string them together. So something to watch him. Yeah, Like,

577
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Speaker 2: I mean, they need Damian, they need the sort of

578
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 2: Blazers Damien Lollard probably to win a championship or at

579
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 2: least through some of the series when they get a

580
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 2: little tougher if they advance. They just need to avoid

581
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 2: the Miami heat at all costs. Wherever the heat are, Milwaukee,

582
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 2: you gotta dodge the man, you know, don't be too proud,

583
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 2: don't just don't play them and try and avoid them

584
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 2: if you don't.

585
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Speaker 1: The Celtics feel the same way.

586
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 2: Yes, but I guess they've beaten them this year right

587
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 2: in the regular season. I think they've taken.

588
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 1: Care regular season.

589
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,199
Speaker 2: Well, I know it's different because it's a different bee.

590
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 3: It's up to Daveyeger, who is the guy that Doc

591
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 3: Rivers brought over as his offensive coordinator from last year

592
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 3: with the Philadelphia seventy six ers, who just ran Harden

593
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 3: and beat hardened and beat hardened em beat to do

594
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 3: that in the second half, I think to get Lillard

595
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 3: going a little bit, he just needs to feel a

596
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 3: little bit like his Portland self, where he had the

597
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 3: ball in his hands at all times. That's the only mistake.

598
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 3: I can see why why Lillard would be having an offseason.

599
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 3: The numbers aren't there so and the fact that Middleton

600
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Speaker 3: is hurt probably just elevates Lillard to more ball handling

601
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 3: and just more pick and roll going with Yannis.

602
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: Three other games. Last night, just chucking them at you here,

603
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 2: Tatum scored forty one Celtics beat the Nets one eighteen

604
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 2: to one ten for their fifth straight win. He had

605
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 2: thirty one after half, and then he turned into a

606
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 2: playmaker in the second half. Anthony Edwards he had forty

607
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Speaker 2: one as the Wolves won their first of two against

608
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 2: the Blazers one one, one oh nine, and then Lebron

609
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 2: and Ad led the Lakers past the Pistons won twenty

610
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 2: five to one to eleven for their fifth victory in

611
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 2: six games. And he thought to TK on those three.

612
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 2: There some big scoring performances from some stars in the league.

613
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Speaker 4: One of the best things going in the NBA right

614
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 4: now is Anthony Edwards going for a blowout bank shot.

615
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 4: They smacked the Clippers. He banked into three from the

616
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 4: left wing on purpose. He was like one for ten

617
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 4: from three and shot a banked in shot from three

618
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 4: and then started pointing at his teammates on the bench,

619
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Speaker 4: completely intentional. Last night, another blowout win for the Timberwolves,

620
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,959
Speaker 4: forty one points and his last shot was a lefty

621
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Speaker 4: floater bank and then he runs up the court looking

622
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 4: at his left hand. He's just messing around. They sat

623
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 4: on the Timberwolves broadcast. He's just trying stuff out there.

624
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 4: That's what Larry Bird that's gonna say. That's what Kobe

625
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 4: Bryant did. Pretty special.

626
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and other guys are using the glass for the

627
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 3: pass as you you wrote about the Tyrese Halliburn. Sure

628
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 3: he's copying everybody. Just passed to himself.

629
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Speaker 2: That was itass man, Yeah, that was.

630
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 3: He wasn't in the lane. He was pretty deep for

631
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 3: passing to himself. Yeah, you used that glass. It is

632
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 3: great to see the Wolves. I think, I know this

633
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 3: is just a Blazers, but they do look a little

634
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 3: bit better since the Monte Morris trade. And they had

635
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 3: that film session where they're trying to talk to each

636
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 3: other and say let's move that fricking ball in the

637
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 3: fourth quarter, and they look a little different. They look

638
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 3: more like a team, even though they weren't atop the standings.

639
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 3: They struggled in the fourth quarter. So they do look

640
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 3: like a team that would be surprising if they lost

641
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 3: a first round series that Western Conference. It's rough, it's

642
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 3: gonna be it's gonna be fun.

643
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, good game from the bench guys for the Wolves

644
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: last night. Nikhil Alexander Walker awesome. Six of seven, he

645
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 2: hit five threes, so he had eighteen points. Nas Reid,

646
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Speaker 2: drop your nose reads in the chat he had ten points,

647
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 2: a couple of boards, a couple of defensive you know,

648
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 2: two blocks of steel and then Kylie Anderson in about

649
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 2: twenty two minutes to Doo and Kylie Anderson things with

650
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 2: eight and eight eight being assists there to go along

651
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 2: with the points. So good stuff from them. Well, let's

652
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 2: pivot to some of those superstars and go into the

653
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 2: latest MVP straw Pole from Timmy Bontemps at ESPN. Yeah,

654
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 2: Nuggets big Man Nikola Jokic, not Jovic. Jokic leads the

655
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 2: way in ESPN's latest NBA MVP straw Pole. He tops

656
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 2: Jokic does the likes of SGA and Yannis. Joel Embiid

657
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,959
Speaker 2: was long considered a top candidate for the MVP award,

658
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 2: but he remained sideline after undergoing knee surgery, so no

659
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 2: votes for EMBIID this time around. Does anything surprise you

660
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 2: guys about the latest straw pole from ESPN When it

661
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 2: comes to NBA MVP.

662
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 4: To me, the biggest takeaway is that Jason Tatum is

663
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 4: way too low. I six is way too low for

664
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 4: Jason Tatum. Twenty seven, eight and five. That's like MVP

665
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 4: numbers prior to the twenty twenties. He's got good efficiency,

666
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 4: he plays good defense. He's been on the best team

667
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 4: in the league, team in the league for the entire season.

668
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 4: But the Celtics are such a good team that Tatum

669
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 4: doesn't really get a lot of the credit for it

670
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 4: despite having a great season. And he has no narrative

671
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 4: right now, And you got to have a narrative because

672
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 4: I think that's what why Kawhi Leonard is in the

673
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 4: top five, That's why Jalen Brunson made it to number seven,

674
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 4: and that's why Donovan Mitchell made it to number eight

675
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 4: after none of them were in the top ten during the.

676
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Speaker 1: First drop hole.

677
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 4: They had major leaps during the second I don't know,

678
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 4: third of the season, whatever you want to call it,

679
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 4: but the Celtics have been there the entire time with

680
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 4: kind of the similar core that they've had since Tatum

681
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 4: got there, So it just doesn't feel so new. I

682
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 4: personally think he should be at least in the top five,

683
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 4: just on the best player on the best team case.

684
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 2: Yeah no, it's true, and he's having his most efficient

685
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 2: shooting season of his career. He's averaging a career high

686
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 2: assis Tatum is at four point seven. You're right, the

687
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 2: Celtics are forty two and twelve. But it's definitely the

688
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 2: narrative part where people are like, you've been like on

689
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 2: the MVP list for a couple of years now and

690
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 2: obviously haven't got the big one, and your stats are

691
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 2: similar and you're on a you know, a stacked team,

692
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 2: like a really good team, and that's why he's being overlooked.

693
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 2: But then he goes and has forty one and fourteen

694
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: last night, and so yeah, god, yeah he probably should

695
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 2: be higher. But I mean, I will say the names

696
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 2: above him are having incredible years too, Like you can

697
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 2: make a case that Lucas should be higher with the

698
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 2: numbers that guy puts up and is actually the leading

699
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 2: scorer now after Embiide went down. So it's tough, but

700
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 2: do you have thoughts on this.

701
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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it just seemed like Tatum is going to

702
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 3: get back to that same spot. He was fourth in

703
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 3: MVP voting last year. He'll probably be there again. I

704
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 3: just don't see him in the top three. But it's

705
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 3: like an annual thing now with Jason Tatum. Where he's

706
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 3: fourth is the highest that he was last year. This

707
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 3: team is by far and away the better best team

708
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 3: in the NBA. So it just doesn't it just doesn't

709
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 3: seem like he's a win one when it comes to voting.

710
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 2: Well, this is an interesting note. The leader in the

711
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 2: second straw pole so in Bid in twenty twenty two

712
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 2: and Jokich last year, they have been surpassed by the

713
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 2: second place finisher in official award voting for the past

714
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 2: two seasons. So if you're an SGA fan and you

715
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 2: want him to win MVP, maybe that bodes well for

716
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 2: you with him sitting right now in second behind Jokic.

717
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 2: But man if Yokic wins what his third MVP trophy,

718
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 2: he joins a very short list. I mean eight players

719
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 2: in NBA history with three MVPs or more. You know,

720
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: some of these guys like Kareem with six and Bill

721
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 2: Russell and Jordan with five, Wilton Lebron with four, and

722
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 2: then a bunch of other guys Moses Malone, Magic Johnson,

723
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: Larry Bird with three. Jokic would be there and that

724
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 2: would be what three and four years too. Yes, the

725
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 2: list is even shorter for guys who have done that.

726
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 4: I mean, you could argue he just about out of

727
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 4: the race last year. Yeah, I know, there's a reason

728
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 4: he was leading at the second straw pole they locked

729
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 4: in their number one seed, and then he didn't want

730
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 4: to be a part of the MVP conversation. Now it's

731
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 4: not a rivalry him and Embiid this time, so maybe

732
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 4: he plays it out. Also, the Nuggets aren't going to

733
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 4: be locked into the one seed because the standings are

734
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 4: so bunched together, so perhaps it's more important for Yoks

735
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 4: to be playing late into the season. I'm also shocked

736
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 4: one person left shake Gil just Alexander out of the

737
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 4: top five.

738
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Speaker 3: What the hell? Come on?

739
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 2: That's crazy oversight. Yeah, I mean sure, if you don't

740
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 2: want to have him first, second, maybe even third, do

741
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 2: you leave him off the top five. I believe Bontemps

742
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 2: does this like an actual official MVP vote, where you're

743
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 2: like Hey, tasks, who do you have one through five?

744
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 2: Give me your top five? So, yeah, that's weird.

745
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 3: This is gonna be a fun Nicola topic as you said, Uh,

746
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 3: he's Nicola topicic coming next year, but it's spelled top

747
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 3: I see with with the accent on the seats, so

748
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 3: every year. Yeah, Jokic is part of the topics for sure. Yeah,

749
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 3: he was until Embiid went out. You know, he was

750
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 3: second in the straw pool. It'll change, It'll change from

751
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 3: from blow to blow. Do you want to put in

752
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 3: a guy that hasn't won yet? Is I think what's

753
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 3: going to be the the biggest.

754
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 2: Blow to Jokic Sga potential Tato.

755
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 3: Potential Tato or Luca all right or Kawhi. I mean,

756
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 3: I love how Kawhi was not rated in these trupples

757
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 3: at all and now he is because he's freaking Kawhi

758
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 3: Leonard and he could be part of the best team

759
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 3: in the Western Conference. That's not that's not far off

760
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 3: to see him part of that, I know. The like

761
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 3: just looking at the schedules, Milwaukee Buck schedules rough in

762
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 3: the second half. I don't know if they're going to

763
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 3: end a third, but the Clippers they could end one

764
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 3: and Kawhi could be the MVP, his first MVP.

765
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 2: All Right, we gotta take a break. But when we

766
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 2: come back, it's Valentine's Day, So we got some lovely

767
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 2: questions for the guys. Don't go anywhere. Happy Valentine's Day

768
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 2: to everybody. Hopefully you got your flowers and your chocolate

769
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 2: and all that good stuff. Maybe you're Valentine's Day cards.

770
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 2: I got some questions for you guys. NBA themed Valentine's

771
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 2: Day edition. Oh I love is in the air, Derreck.

772
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 4: Rose, Josh hart Them Love, Denzel Valentine, Thank you, Isaiah

773
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 4: Hartenstein love it.

774
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 2: So here we go. First one, which team deserves more

775
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 2: love on this Valentine's Day? Maybe a team we do

776
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: not talk about enough, great lower thirds, JD Love the Touch,

777
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 2: the flair, TK get a start at which team deserves

778
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 2: more love?

779
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 1: I think it's the New Orleans Pelicans.

780
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 4: Okay, because I was looking at some teams who have

781
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 4: the best records since December. First I sorted it by

782
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 4: net rating, and then I looked at all the teams

783
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 4: in the top ten. Cleveland Cavaliers, they're a candidate here. Yeah,

784
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 4: I think for a team that needs more love, but

785
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 4: we've given them love. Boston Celtics, we talk about him,

786
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 4: Thunder we talk about them, Clippers we talk about on Timberwolves.

787
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: Hmm, I hear your beef, Timberwolf fans, But we do

788
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 1: love us some.

789
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 4: Anthony Edwards, we talk about him quite a bit. New

790
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 4: York next their seventh. Talk about them all the time.

791
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 4: The Bucks have dominated the conversation. Seventy six Ers not

792
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 4: as much anymore since EBID went down, but we'll see.

793
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 4: And the Suns, we talk about them quite a bit. Pelicans,

794
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 4: though sixth best net rating since December first. Yonna s

795
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 4: Valancie has missed zero games. Brandon Ingram has missed four games,

796
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 4: and those are the only healthy guys really for the

797
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 4: Pelicans this year. Herb Jones missed five, Zions missed eleven.

798
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 1: CJ.

799
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 4: McCollum has missed fourteen. That's their starting lineup and somehow

800
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 4: they're still thirteenth in offense in seventh in defense, with

801
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 4: some really solid wins this season. They beat the Knicks,

802
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,439
Speaker 4: they beat the Thunder and ok see, they beat Denver.

803
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 4: They've beat the Clippers in LA twice, beat the seventy

804
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 4: six ers, beat the Minnesota Timberwolves in Minnesota and in

805
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 4: New Orleans, beat the Calves in Cleveland. They beat the

806
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 4: Kings four times. They beat the MAVs twice, beat the

807
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 4: Warriors in Golden State. That's a bunch of really good wins,

808
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 4: and it just feels like they're kind of cruising along.

809
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 4: Who knows if anybody will take him in a playoff series.

810
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 4: It will depend on who they play against. But it's

811
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 4: like we've had a good brandon Ingram season, We've had

812
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 4: a good Zion season. It doesn't feel like either of

813
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 4: them are completely dominating. They're just a really deep team

814
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 4: that is having some success here in the regular season.

815
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: Good.

816
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 3: It's totally the one that nobody talks about. It's the

817
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 3: best team that nobody talks about. Absolutely when you look

818
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 3: at the standings of them being ten games above five hundred,

819
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 3: if you look across the board they are talked about.

820
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 3: I think part of the problem is that the Western

821
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 3: Conference is just so damn good with the Wolves, Thunder, Clippers, Nuggets,

822
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 3: Suns above them, all those five teams are talked about

823
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 3: a decent amount, and then right below them the MAVs

824
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 3: the Kings, who probably deserve a little bit more love Lakers, Warriors,

825
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 3: big big markets, So the Pelicans are hurt again, just

826
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,959
Speaker 3: that they should be better or should be more talked about,

827
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 3: and that they are a tinier market. But you bring

828
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 3: up Zion and the guys that aren't injured this season,

829
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 3: Zion being one of them, I think that's the most

830
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 3: important thing because last year they don't go into the

831
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 3: playoffs because of injuries. The year before that, they took

832
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 3: the Suns to six games in a great series but

833
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 3: didn't win it because they were injured because Zion wasn't playing.

834
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 3: This season, I have said Zion Wimson does not look

835
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 3: like the superstar we all you know, we all yearned for,

836
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 3: we all juiced four. I'm so excited to watch this guy.

837
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 3: But it's a good thing. It's a good thing he's

838
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 3: playing and will be in a postseason because he just

839
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 3: needs to be in a postseason. So the fact that

840
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 3: they're healthy, maybe he doesn't get the headlines, maybe doesn't

841
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 3: get the national media love, but yeah, they're just so

842
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 3: damn good. And I frankly, all these teams, all those

843
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 3: teams I mentioned in the top ten, including the Pelicans,

844
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 3: if they're all healthy, I would be surprised for them

845
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 3: to lose a playoff series. Zion hasn't been in the

846
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 3: playoffs yet, but we saw what they did to the

847
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 3: Phoenix Suns. Yea, if he was there, they probably win

848
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 3: that series. And it's a whole different thing. So it's

849
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 3: a good thing, even though it isn't as sexy.

850
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 2: It's a good pick. I feel like what happened with them, well,

851
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 2: it's two things. Zion's just going about his business. He's playing,

852
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 2: but there's no like, oh my god, did you see

853
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 2: what Zion did last night? There just isn't because he's

854
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 2: like gone for forty five or fifty or dunked on somebody.

855
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 2: So it's been quiet in like the highlights sort of department,

856
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 2: and that gets your casuals going and buzzing and talking

857
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 2: about the team, So that's sort of non existent. That's okay.

858
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 2: Brandon Ingram he's I don't know. He always feels like

859
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 2: one of the most overlooked stars in this league, terribly

860
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 2: underrated in my opinion. And then what happened was that

861
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 2: damn min season tournament. I'm convinced when they botched it

862
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 2: and you know, looked bad at the wrong time when

863
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,399
Speaker 2: there was a bunch of eyeballs on them the rest

864
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 2: of the league. The NBA media was like, Okay, we're

865
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 2: done with you. We'll see him maybe come April, if

866
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 2: you're around. I feel like that happened with them, because yeah,

867
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 2: they'd being all these good teams. They play some really

868
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 2: competitive games, you know when they're healthy, and Herb Jones

869
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 2: doing his thing, and Alvarado and like their scrappy bunch.

870
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 2: But that's my answer as well. For a team that

871
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 2: deserves more love, I think the Wolves I would include

872
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 2: a little bit too. They are leading the Western Conference.

873
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 2: We were wondering, can this even work with these two

874
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,959
Speaker 2: guys Kat and Rudy. I mean Karl Anthony Towns twenty

875
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 2: two and a half points per game, eight and a

876
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 2: half boards, three assists, fifty two to forty four, eighty

877
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 2: eight shooting splits for this big guy in playing over

878
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 2: fifty games, barely a peep about Karl Anthony Towns speacause

879
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards is blossom into a star. Rudy's doing his thing,

880
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 2: has that team playing the number one defense along with McDaniels,

881
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 2: all these other guys contributing, but he just like gets

882
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 2: overlooked now too, and probably for the best when it

883
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 2: comes to the Wolves. Really it probably is for their

884
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: chances to actually make some noise in a playoff series,

885
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 2: but they do get overlooked.

886
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 3: They've got the identity of being the best defense in

887
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 3: the league, but they are lacking a little bit overall

888
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 3: on the offensive end. But I do think they're trying

889
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 3: to overcome that with the fact that they're trying to

890
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 3: share the ball a lot more in the fourth quarter,

891
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 3: and I think Anthony Edwards and Quality Towns maybe have

892
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 3: been a little bit guilty of being the offense in

893
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 3: the fourth quarter. So they're trying to get over that

894
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 3: they have that they have that negative, I suppose, but

895
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 3: every team has a negative.

896
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 2: But like when I like, I'm not saying that I

897
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 2: would be picking them to win a title, But if

898
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 2: you actually step back and go look at the recipe

899
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 2: for their team, why aren't they in the conversation that

900
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 2: they could go very far and maybe challenge for a championship.

901
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 2: They have the best defense. That usually helps. Then you

902
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 2: have two guys, a perimeter guy and a big guy

903
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 2: who can take over games. Obviously Anthony Edwards can and

904
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: Cat has shown that he has before as well. They

905
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 2: got like a vet in Conley, like they have pieces

906
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: like that. It's like it all makes sense that this

907
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 2: should team should be like poised to make a good run,

908
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: but it feels like nobody would like be picking them

909
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 2: and maybe a first round series, let alone a second

910
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:23,919
Speaker 2: round series against some of these other teams.

911
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 4: I mean, there are go Bear question marks come playoffs. Yeah,

912
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 4: there are Karl Anthony Towns question marks come playoff times

913
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 4: based on their careers up to this point. And then

914
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 4: I think there's a big question mark of what their

915
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 4: offense actually looks like once they get to the postseason,

916
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 4: because they do have the best defense in the league,

917
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 4: but it seems to be more so these days that

918
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 4: having a good offense is what actually wins come playoff time.

919
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 4: They're seventeenth right now, and in the fourth quarter they

920
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 4: can look bad and it can just look like Anthony

921
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 4: Edwards please save us. He often does and it looks incredible,

922
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 4: but he takes a lot of really tough shots. He

923
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 4: sometimes has blinders on. I think there's just question marks,

924
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 4: yeah for this team that need to be answered when

925
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 4: it really really matters.

926
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 2: Yep, all right, next question here, tass you get have started.

927
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 2: Who is your NBA role player Valentine.

928
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm going deep, baby, I'm going with Justice Winslow.

929
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 3: Holy who doesn't play in the NBA. He was just

930
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 3: signed to a tenay, a ten day, not a ten way.

931
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 3: I don't think it's ten way with Justice anyway. Ten day.

932
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 3: Well at the Toronto Raptors and he's out there playing

933
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 3: for the Raptors nine oh five team, You're going into

934
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 3: the corner swatting shots, doing a bunch of Swiss army

935
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 3: things that Justice Winslow is known for assisting rebound. He's

936
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 3: twenty seven years old and he hasn't played in the

937
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 3: NBA for a full year, mainly because he was injured.

938
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 3: But he was a number ten pick way back when

939
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 3: for the Miami Heat, and they said a lot of times,

940
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 3: we are not trading this guy. We drafted him so high.

941
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 3: He looks really good. He can defend everybody one through five,

942
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 3: and I'm buying it. I'm buying that he'll make a

943
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 3: return to the NBA. You know, he did the he

944
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 3: did the Heat thing. Obviously, he did a little Clipper thing,

945
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 3: did the Blazers thing, and then had to have surgery

946
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 3: so he was out. So he will be back in

947
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,479
Speaker 3: twenty seven years old. He looks perfect for the NBA.

948
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 3: He's also just had a lot of off court issues.

949
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,720
Speaker 3: Jason Stark wrote about it. Jason Quick, Jason Stark. Jason

950
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,919
Speaker 3: Quick wrote about it, not Jason Stark. I love Jason

951
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 3: Stark on the Athletic Yeah, uh yeah. He writes at

952
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 3: about a lot of a lot of issues everywhere in

953
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 3: baseball for sure. Jason Quick wrote about everything off the

954
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 3: court that had Justice Winslow struggling a little bit, and

955
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 3: it's it's a great article how he found away with

956
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 3: Eric Spolstra and the things he did with your your

957
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 3: buddy Leonard. Uh yeah, Lard, No, Lard Hamilton, I threw,

958
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 3: I threw Leonard, and there Lard Hamilton.

959
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: Justice wins Little worked out with Lard Hamilton.

960
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 3: Yes, let me guess.

961
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 2: Was he running on the bottom of an ocean floor

962
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 2: holding a rock a bit?

963
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 3: Your ass? He was dumbbells but uh yeah, basically same stuff. Yeah.

964
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 3: I called him Leonard for some reason. Anyway, Laird. It's

965
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 3: a great article about the struggles that he had, and

966
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 3: I think he has fought to overcome them the last

967
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 3: couple of years. He'll be back, baby.

968
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 2: Okay, Wow, that is a deep cut NBA role player

969
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 2: of Valentine, but he just loves him so justice.

970
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 3: He is a great role player. He was great on

971
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 3: the Basketball Jones when we had him on, or I

972
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 3: guess he was. It was the starters technically, when we

973
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 3: had him on in Summer League, he was there being

974
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 3: the judge. He was great. It was a long time.

975
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 3: It was a long time ago, but he's had some

976
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 3: great ups. Do you get back there?

977
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 2: Do you have an NBA role player?

978
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 3: Yes?

979
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 4: My homer pick is Andre Drummond. Okay, favorite bowl to watch.

980
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 4: Just a hilarious guy. The gentleman is what we've been

981
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 4: calling him in the group chats. My new homer pick.

982
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 4: Watched the Hawks a lot. Jalen Johnson is the guy.

983
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 4: But my out of the box pick kind of odd

984
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 4: because we were just talking about how we never show

985
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,919
Speaker 4: this team enough love nos Reed I like nos Reed

986
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 4: Man a career high in points this season. He's shooting

987
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 4: forty one percent from three, which is a career high.

988
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 4: And it's just rare to see a big guy be

989
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 4: a bench bucket, so I love when that happens. Like

990
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 4: I don't know, gregman Row, that was a guy who

991
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 4: would come in and just give you buckets off the bench. There's,

992
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 4: for whatever reason, a nas red argument going on here

993
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 4: in the stream team sure prior to this talking about

994
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 4: is he good or is he not good?

995
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 1: He's fun to watch man.

996
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 2: Yeah to your Valentine, Yeah, it's your pick. That's what

997
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 2: I like about this one. I'm gonna go with Malik

998
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 2: Monk as my NBA role player Valentine. Obviously in the

999
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 2: running again for a six Man of the Year. I

1000
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 2: think he finished fourth maybe in the voting last year.

1001
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 2: He'll probably be top five again, top three, maybe win it.

1002
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 2: It's cooled off a little bit, but it gives you

1003
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 2: fifteen to five in very limited minutes. And what I

1004
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 2: love about him is like he can hit you a

1005
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 2: game winner, which he's done over the last couple of years,

1006
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 2: and he can also give you like a huge poster dunk.

1007
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 2: Like this guy is like always in the top ten

1008
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 2: highlights of the night. You always get like a Malik

1009
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 2: Monk throwdown. So I love that, love how he plays.

1010
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 2: And just a weird stat I saw from NBA Universe

1011
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 2: on Twitter last night, Malik Monk leads the entire NBA

1012
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 2: in assists per game on half court drives, more than

1013
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 2: Luca more than Halliburton, more than SGA. Monk leads that category.

1014
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 2: You only have just twenty five minutes per game, and

1015
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: he's twenty third in drives per game. But you know,

1016
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 2: guy's knocked down shots when Monk is passing it to him.

1017
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 2: So I thought there was a fun step. But I

1018
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 2: love watching him play on the Kings.

1019
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:26,919
Speaker 1: He had a nice run last night. I thought, yeah,

1020
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 1: highlight factory.

1021
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 2: He's exactly he is. He's a highlight factory for sure.

1022
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 4: All right, take over in the second quarter, and I

1023
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 4: saw that they were saying, if you're a big fan

1024
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 4: of Malik Monk, you're part of the monastery.

1025
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: I like that.

1026
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 3: That's good.

1027
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 2: He's got a great name, underrated name alk Ballay. Both

1028
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 2: both sound cool together. Okay, well, next question, TK get

1029
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 2: a started. What candy heart message would you like to

1030
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 2: send to an NBA player? We're talking sweethearts on sweethearts? Yeah,

1031
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 2: little messages on those. I don't know. Choky like candies.

1032
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, not a great game.

1033
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 2: I hate those.

1034
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: Google you like the messages?

1035
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 3: I like him a little sugar sugar drills, man.

1036
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: I haven't. I haven't eaten one in a long time.

1037
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: I've graduated high class candies like what what would be?

1038
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: Not M and ms? Okay, that's wonuld be my number one.

1039
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just finished all of my peppermint

1040
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: bark from Christmas this last week. Tragedy man, I had

1041
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: to switch to the chocolate passport.

1042
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 2: Have you got your girls scot cookies in yet?

1043
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1044
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: I just don't know, My goodness, I got so many

1045
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: at my house. Shout out to the Lemon Ups.

1046
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 2: You like the Lemon Ups?

1047
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:28,439
Speaker 1: I do? Yeah?

1048
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. Lemon Ups were a good recent addition to

1049
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 4: the lineup, much better than Toffee tast thick.

1050
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: I was disappointed.

1051
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of Are they Adventurefuls?

1052
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: Yeah? That's that's a new game.

1053
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 3: I like it. I like just the how they look period.

1054
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 3: I like the perimeter to the inside. They playing outside

1055
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 3: inside games. It's just good. Those are good. They're not

1056
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 3: arriving fast enough. I've made two orders.

1057
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 2: I just made.

1058
00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: Some of yours are at my house.

1059
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 2: Oh okay, did you pick delivery in person or mailed?

1060
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: Mailed? Oh?

1061
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 2: What the whole point is the girl Scout is supposed

1062
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 2: to learn the valuable lessons?

1063
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm just kidding.

1064
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 2: Website.

1065
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 3: I looked at that I'm like, who can I find

1066
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 3: somebody for them to deliver to because our buddy Grish

1067
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 3: sent another message and said, just just following up here

1068
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 3: for your stuff.

1069
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not hitting them. They're not hitting their quota

1070
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 2: right now. They're not going to be sleeping over at

1071
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 2: the aquarium if they don't sell these boxes of cookies.

1072
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 3: So buy some sleepover.

1073
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, sleep with the fishes like a mobster. Okay, well,

1074
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 2: yeah the question.

1075
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.

1076
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 4: I googled these to remember what they say and one

1077
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 4: that I'd forgotten. I was gonna send candy heart message

1078
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 4: to this player no matter what. But then I saw

1079
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 4: one that said sweet Pea. Hear that very so I'm

1080
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 4: sending that's.

1081
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: Apollo ban Karo. Okay. I think they could be a

1082
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: nice nickname for him.

1083
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 4: Sweet pee, you drop the pea, just go to straight

1084
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 4: up pee like spicy p because this guy is sweet

1085
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 4: to watch. He is my highest league pass riser this season.

1086
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 4: I just love the way Polo plays. He's humongous and

1087
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 4: he's still a great athlete. You're going to get compared

1088
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 4: to Lebron James right now. His like his combination of

1089
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 4: size and skill. You know, I think his jump shot

1090
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 4: has come along a little bit, still a ways to go.

1091
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 4: His playmaking is there, and he's willing to take the

1092
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 4: big shots. He had to do that kind of on

1093
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 4: his own for a stretch while Franz Wagner was out.

1094
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 4: It was good, it was bad at some points. It

1095
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 4: was clunky.

1096
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: But he's a fun, bullyball kind of guy to watch.

1097
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 2: So that's my sweet pea sweet pee.

1098
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 3: I like get sweet. He's sweet. That's good butter out

1099
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 3: there man last night. Yeah, he just for a big

1100
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 3: man to have that turnaround shot. That's just so smooth.

1101
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 2: That was his first nationally televised game, was it not, Yeah,

1102
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 2: last night's game against the Thunder. Yeah.

1103
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 3: The Old Magic haven't been nationally televised recently.

1104
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 2: I don't think they've been on in like ten years.

1105
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: They say, yeah, a long time, it's been a while.

1106
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 2: Well where are you going? What are you send him to?

1107
00:49:59,200 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 2: A player?

1108
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 3: You had to look this up and think about what

1109
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 3: do these things have on them?

1110
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 2: They have like a million of the sayings yes right, yeah, And.

1111
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 3: I don't know do they sell them all or that's

1112
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 3: just like an internet thing that's tough to just yeah, yeah, anyway, anyway,

1113
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 3: you can print whatever you want to you can print. Yeah,

1114
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 3: I printed wink wink on my okay, going to old

1115
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 3: school because I said to Goombo's just he's an old soul.

1116
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 3: He still winks, and I think NBA players they don't

1117
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 3: wink enough, so he's getting them. We can have more winks.

1118
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 3: You know, everybody's looking at the the celebrations and stuff.

1119
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 3: Just a quick one.

1120
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 2: What about towel slaps? Yeah exactly, so the asses of refs.

1121
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 3: He whipped a towel on a refereece ass he might

1122
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 3: have winked at it, right then, Yeah, exactly.

1123
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 2: I went with like I guess. In twenty twenty two,

1124
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 2: according to the website, I saw, like you guys, they

1125
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 2: had words of encouragement that you could put on these

1126
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 2: candy hearts. Chin up, I don't quit. You got this.

1127
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 2: I'm sending that pack of words of encouragement candy hearts

1128
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 2: uh to Kawhi Leonard because we just learned that this

1129
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 2: guy's gonna miss tonight's game. He's not gonna be playing

1130
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 2: against the Warriors because he's got an adductor strain, left

1131
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 2: aductor strain. Everybody's like, well, well, well where did this

1132
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 2: come from? Because this guy's been healthy all season. He

1133
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 2: missed like what four games there, you know, at the

1134
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 2: end of twenty twenty three it was a hip contusion. Otherwise,

1135
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 2: he's been healthy, he's been dominant, He's got the Clippers

1136
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 2: into the top of the West. He's in an MVP

1137
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 2: conversation I guess dark Horse MVP conversation, and then he

1138
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 2: suddenly has this unexpectedly. Now I'm hoping this is just

1139
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:42,439
Speaker 2: a hey, extend your All Star break. Hey, hey, Kawi

1140
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 2: maybe even said I don't really want to play in

1141
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 2: the LL Star game. Oh geez, now we got to

1142
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 2: replace him. We'll wait to see if we have to

1143
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 2: do that. Maybe it'll be a sabonus or something like that.

1144
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 2: It's possible, but hopefully it's nothing actually serious when it

1145
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 2: comes to Kawhi and this left adductor strain. But chin up,

1146
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 2: ship up.

1147
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that Kawhi is missing games for being hurt. Right,

1148
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 4: it's the only times he's missed games this season because

1149
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 4: he was legitimately.

1150
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, right, right, This is true unless you believe

1151
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 2: my conspiracy that he just doesn't want to play.

1152
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 3: Given that, like fair enough him against Golden State would

1153
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 3: be nice to see him. But he hopefully will be

1154
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 3: back for it the first game after the All Star Break,

1155
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 3: where they play the Oklahoma City Thunder. That's a matchup

1156
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 3: and surprising that the NBA scheduled it so well. First

1157
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 3: night back from the Clippers and Thunder together to the

1158
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,959
Speaker 3: top teams in the Western Conference. They got lucky.

1159
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 2: Do you think he'll be playing in that one? You

1160
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 2: think he's just getting a longer all Star break.

1161
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 3: I haven't checked out the groin and the adductor, but

1162
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 3: I assume doesn't sound like a long injury. I don't know.

1163
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 3: Will he be playing Sunday in the All Star Game?

1164
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 3: I don't know. Then he's playing against Okay, so yeah,

1165
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 3: probably all right?

1166
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 2: Final one here finished the Allentynes Dave pom It's a classic.

1167
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 2: Roses are red, Violets are blue.

1168
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: The Bulls will be back if they win another two.

1169
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 2: Oh wow, what does that mean? They're two games below

1170
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 2: five hundred.

1171
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, twenty six and twenty eight right now. I was

1172
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 4: going back and checking the stats. They were technically five

1173
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 4: hundred on October thirtieth, early in the season. They haven't

1174
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 4: been over five hundred since the end of the twenty

1175
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 4: twenty two season. Twenty and fourteen since December one. That's

1176
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 4: the tenth best record in the league, thirteenth best net rating.

1177
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 4: They're fine right now. They play at the Caves tonight. Unfortunately,

1178
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 4: Donovan Miller Mitchell is a complete Bulls killer, so not

1179
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 4: too optimistic about that one. Then they got the All

1180
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 4: Star break. Then they have the Celtics in Chicago at

1181
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 4: Pelicans home for the Pistons, Calves and Bucks.

1182
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 2: Oh wow, I don't know easy.

1183
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: It's not easy.

1184
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 4: It's not easy to be back, but we will see.

1185
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 4: People keep asking me the Bulls back. They've strung together

1186
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 4: some wins, not quite yet another two.

1187
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 2: They're close.

1188
00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:00,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm talking trash. I went individual with my poem.

1189
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 3: Roses are red, violets are blue. I get buckets, but

1190
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 3: do you.

1191
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: With the end?

1192
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 4: One guy that sounds like Valentine with the faceless and

1193
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 4: one man a box of chocolate's out.

1194
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:15,919
Speaker 1: That's good.

1195
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 2: My poem is like it's definitely directed at the young

1196
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 2: high flyers in this league, because I went Roses are red,

1197
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 2: violets are blue. If Jalen Brown can join the dunk contest,

1198
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 2: then so can you. All right, saw you young legs

1199
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 2: out there? You know these rookies the second year, third year.

1200
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 2: Guys that aren't injured. Where are you Jayalen Brown? He's

1201
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 2: going in it. Uh, he's gonna try and put on

1202
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,280
Speaker 2: a show against McClung and one of the other toppings

1203
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 2: and uh, who's the other guy. I'm already forgetting the

1204
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 2: fourth dunk Hawkes. Okay, that wasn't to Hawkes. Let me

1205
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 2: make make that very clear because he's going in. So yeah,

1206
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 2: all right, Well finish the poems. Let's hear your best poems.

1207
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 2: Roses are red, violets are blue. And then where you're

1208
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 2: going from there? Tass Time for tweet of.

1209
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 3: The night, Tweet up the night, Wow Twitt. Thank you

1210
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 3: to the No Dunks fan. Koye Coyote Jester. I see

1211
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,240
Speaker 3: the word coyote sometimes and I just want to say, Koye,

1212
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 3: why I don't know coyote Jester, because you may tweet

1213
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 3: it the night very very very simple. Because we talked

1214
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 3: about we talked about the Super Bowl. SpongeBob had a

1215
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 3: telecast where there was two animated SpongeBob characters alongside No

1216
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 3: Eagle and our man Nate Birlson calling the game. We

1217
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 3: talked about and we talked about us being animated characters.

1218
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 3: Way back in the old days. So Coyote Jester tweeted,

1219
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 3: if Nicole Nickelodeon does an NBA All Star Game broadcast,

1220
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 3: no dunks should host it. So each guy got an animation.

1221
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 3: Jd is Rady Stingray. Yeah, the StingRay's got the ball

1222
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,479
Speaker 3: pickleball racket and ball touch.

1223
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 2: It's that's good.

1224
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 3: It's great. It's nice to see Trey became fish taco

1225
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 3: trout Kirby instead of Taco Dray Kirby.

1226
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: Fish complete with bowls carhart hat.

1227
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 2: I mean the illustration fish taco trout Kirby stretch.

1228
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 3: But all right, I assume it's like grateful dead fish,

1229
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 3: like the skull and yeah, yeah, the fish bones. I

1230
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 3: just love every part of it. Oh my god, was

1231
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 3: renamed task mollusk.

1232
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 1: I think.

1233
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 3: I love being in a shell. It feels good and

1234
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 3: just like I'm flying around the water.

1235
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: Mollusc is a great name for a sea creature.

1236
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 2: It's like such a good like it's like as if

1237
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 2: you had gone to like a carnival and you have

1238
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 2: those people like do the charactertures of Task and they

1239
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 2: like they you know, like they go crazy you on

1240
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 2: whatever features Like that's a good funny version character true

1241
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 2: of task, I think yeah.

1242
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 3: And last in the water, it's je reef.

1243
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 2: Of a reef. That's it.

1244
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 3: I like the variety.

1245
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I love my little luna there in the reef.

1246
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: This man is.

1247
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 3: Got a hat on the top of the coral backwards.

1248
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 2: I've got to wear my hat today, a little on it.

1249
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, just like a great variety from Coyote Jester. We

1250
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 3: got a sting ray, a good old fish, a mollusc,

1251
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:36,919
Speaker 3: a nice coral reef.

1252
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: That is variety.

1253
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's well done, very well done, Code Jester. They're awesome.

1254
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 2: I did see uh, and Coyote Jester did respond to

1255
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 2: this person, but they said j E Squids was right there,

1256
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 2: and Coyote is like, yeah, I guess I could have

1257
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 2: gone at that angle as well. So the j reef.

1258
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 2: I like both. And it's always the.

1259
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 1: Dry squids.

1260
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 2: Awesome, awesome.

1261
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: It's end of the night.

1262
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 2: Let's call it there. That was a wild show. It

1263
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 2: felt like we are back tomorrow morning at ten am

1264
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 2: Eastern before we head to Indianapolis.

1265
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 1: That's right.

1266
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 2: We got a weird schedule coming up here show tomorrow morning.

1267
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 2: Then we obviously get on a plane go to Indy Friday, night,

1268
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,479
Speaker 2: we have our live show, hoping to turn that into

1269
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 2: a show on maybe YouTube at least podcast, and then

1270
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 2: Saturday night, the plan is after the All Star Night

1271
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 2: Saturday festivities to do a podcast sort of reacting to

1272
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 2: the Dunk contest and the Stephan Sabrina shoot out, the

1273
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 2: Three Point Show and all that stuff. So that's sort

1274
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 2: of what we're looking at here over the coming days

1275
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 2: and the weekend, so lots of content. Make sure you subscribe,

1276
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 2: hit the like button, leave your boys a five star

1277
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 2: rating and review until tomorrow.

1278
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 3: Clipper Bros.

1279
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Speaker 1: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up,

1280
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:52,919
Speaker 1: love you guys awesome.

1281
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, and remember it to now. On

1282
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 3: Thime's Day, we want to thank you Prova love love you,

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Speaker 3: Brace the day people,