1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. Everybody, 2 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: what's going on? Welcome to move the Sticks, DJ Bucky 3 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: as we continue to preview the NFL Scouting Combine. Buck, 4 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: how you doing, man, man, I'm good man. I love 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: this time of year. I love um where we're headed. 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: Because we're going into the combine, we get a chance 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: to kind of really see everybody. And because there's so 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: many names now the underclassman or whatever, like I mean, 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: you're playing catchup like you're really trying to get after it. 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: You've alluded to it on previous podcasts like from the 11 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,279 Speaker 1: time you wake up to time your bit your head 12 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: hits the pillow. It is all about film notes, reports 13 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: and grades. And so I'm just excited to get a 14 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: chance to get to India and see some of these 15 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: guys run and move around and those things. And even 16 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: though I won't overreact to some of the performances that 17 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: we see in Indie, it will kind of help me 18 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: kind of break up some of those clusters that we 19 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: currently have sitting on our respective boards. No doubt, it's 20 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: a great tiebreaker. Um, that's what the combine really functions. 21 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: As for for most teams. Here, you've got similar grades 22 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: on players that can kind of split the tie. Um. 23 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: But we're gonna go over wide receivers and running backs today, Buck, 24 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: and at the top of the wide receivers here, I 25 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: want to go through the measurables as we did on 26 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: the podcast the other day on the quarterbacks. Uh, this 27 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: is just based off reception. So if we look at 28 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 1: the top ten wide receivers by you know, the reception 29 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: category in twenty nineteen. This is the average of their 30 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: numbers here. The average there's six one and a quarter 31 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: two hundred and eight pounds. They ran the forty average 32 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: four five five, so you know all this talk about 33 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: how fashion to be four five, five, six eight five 34 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: three cone a thirty six inch vertical and then nine 35 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: and three quarter inch hands, so they've got big hands. UM. 36 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: Some of the the the high end numbers here as 37 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: big as it got from that from that sample size. 38 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: The tallest was six two and three quarters. Uh, that 39 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: would be Julio Jones two d twenty pounds UM. That 40 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: would be Julio Jones and uh and Robinson and Allen Robinson, 41 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: both those guys at two twenty UM. The slowest forty 42 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: was a four seven one that was Keenan Allen. The 43 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: slowest three cone was a seven one five that was 44 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: Robert Woods. Um. The the fort nine and a half 45 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: three cones Robert Wood seven one five, so not a 46 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: good three cone for him. Um vertical the lowest. The 47 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: lowest vertical was thirty one inches that was Cooper cup Um. 48 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: Then uh, we kind of get to some of the 49 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: other ones here. Uh. The shortest was five ten and 50 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: three eights. That would be Julian Edelman hundred and ninety 51 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: five pounds which was also Edelman, so he's the smallest one. Uh. 52 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 1: The fastest forties interesting here, buck, with all these receptions. 53 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: The fastest forty four four two, so nobody in the 54 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: four threes there four four two. That would be uh 55 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: d J. Moore who ran that. And the best shuttle 56 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: time was a six x two which was also Edelman. 57 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: So Edelman lacked the size and it's a great lesson. 58 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: If you lacked the size, you better make up for 59 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: it with your quickness. Uh, he definitely does that. And uh, 60 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: the guys with ten plus hands Mike Thomas ten plus, 61 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 1: he's ten and a half, Hopkins ten, Keenan Allen, ten 62 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: um All those guys are big, big hands, they're big mits. 63 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: So but the forty times, I mean when I go 64 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: through it here buck four or five, seven four or 65 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: five seven four seven one four five two four four 66 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: two four six o four six two four five eight 67 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: four or five one, So mid four or fives, you're dancing. 68 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: That's all you need man. So DJ We've talked about 69 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: this on numerous occasion, and and and we've talked about 70 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,119 Speaker 1: the mistakes that are made when it comes to evaluating 71 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: UH wide receivers. Opting for athletes over craftsman, and is 72 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: is not only being a craftsman, but is how do 73 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: you win your one on ones? UH? When you point 74 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: out four or five five, that means you're either winning 75 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: because you're a superior route runner or or you're a 76 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: superior UH specimen in terms of your physicality, your toughness, 77 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: your ability to win one on one balls, combat catches. 78 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: You do that because you don't have the separation, but 79 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: you just muscle people. Then you talk about the big hands. 80 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: Note in three quarters, I mean you're talking about some 81 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: big myths, and so what I'm seeing just in that 82 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: these are the physical guys. And in terms of when 83 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,559 Speaker 1: I talk about the physical guys. These are the guys 84 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: that love contact. They kind of embrace kind of playing 85 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: that box out basketball on the perimeter, and that's why 86 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: they're able to win. And I think all of those 87 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: guys that you talk about being the top chinning receptions, 88 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: they're the number one receivers. So your number one receiver, 89 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: there's a vision for what you should look for in 90 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: a number one and that is completely different from the 91 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,119 Speaker 1: vertical stretch guy and the other guy. The vertical stretch 92 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: guy that is the the DK Metcalf that everyone talked about, Hey, 93 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: why didn't go because he's vertical, he goes fast. We 94 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: only throw to them on the go the post, maybe 95 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: the deep, comeback in the deep over. That's it. Each 96 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: year we're beginning to see that why receivers fall into 97 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: certain categories, and we have to make sure that we 98 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: take this deep and talented pool of receivers and make 99 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: sure we dropped them in the right bucket so we 100 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: get them right when it comes to evaluating what they 101 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: could be and what they will be at the next level. 102 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: And for those wondering, you know, that's with receptions. If 103 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: you want to look at the same numbers for yards 104 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: and say, oh, that's that's just they're just catch guys. 105 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: They're not they're not big play guys. In terms of 106 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: receiving yards for the season, the average three, so it 107 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: goes from four or five five to four or five three. 108 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 1: Much difference there. Um, So I thought that was that 109 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: was quite interesting. Uh, let's up through some of these guys, 110 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: buck and what you're looking for and look forward to 111 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: seeing here at the combine with some of these wide receivers. 112 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: Let's look at your top five NFL dot Com slash 113 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks. You can find Bucky's top five by position. 114 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: I want you through your top five receivers kind of 115 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: what we're looking for here, here you go. Jerry Judy's 116 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: is at the top of the list, and I think 117 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: there will be some debate because I think this year, 118 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: unlike any other year, man you can kind of throw 119 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: are all these guys around and depending on what you're 120 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: looking for, it makes sense. Jerry Judy is my guys 121 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: number one because I think he's the cleanest route runner 122 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: of all of the guys. I think his ability to 123 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: get in and out of his routes, his ability to 124 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: kind of put um some magic sauce on his routes 125 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: will enable him to continue to play well at the 126 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: next level. I think he's fast enough to do to 127 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: things that you want to see in the vertical game. 128 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: I think he's tough enough to catch the ball going 129 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: over the middle. And because he's a refined route runner, 130 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: I think he can be a natural number one receiver 131 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: in any offense. Elite elite, elite route runner. UM. To me, 132 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: the debate between Jerry Judy and Ceedee Lamb, I have 133 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: Lamb one spot over. Lamb gets the edge when you 134 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: talk about run after catch with the physicality. Lambs a 135 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: little bit better on the fifty fifty balls. Um. Jerry 136 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: Judy is better off the line. Jerry Judy better overall 137 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: route runner, creates more separation UM after the catch. He's 138 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: more of a slip re elusive type. UM. I thought 139 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: Judy did have some concentration drops buck which I just 140 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: want to see a nice clean combine from him catching 141 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: the football. But it's what, it's whatever you want. You 142 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: know you want somebody that's that's Stefon Diggs. So Jerry 143 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: Judy to me reminds me a lot of us. Stefon 144 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: Diggs with that just polished route running. He's outstanding. Uh, 145 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb is gonna be in more contested situations, which 146 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: can be difficult. So, um, you know that's kind of 147 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: what you're looking for here. Stylistically, I think we're both outstanding. Yeah, 148 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: they're both outstanding. Ceede Lamb kind of remind me a 149 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: little bit of New Hopkins because uh, New Hopkins doesn't 150 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: have like, uh elite what we call world class beed. 151 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: But look, it doesn't matter if you have guys draped 152 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: all over him. He is always open because he is 153 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: such a weapon. He's so comfortable winning the fifty fifty boss. 154 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: I think Ceedee Lamb is like that. Plus he gives 155 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: you that physical uh toughness that you look for in 156 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: the run after catch part of the game. Look, both 157 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: of these guys are terrific. I think it comes down 158 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: to styles. What style do you want uh at that position? 159 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: Uh So we talked about those two guys. The next 160 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: guy for me was Henry Ruggs. Uh. Henry Ruggs from 161 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: Alabama is really really interesting because he has gas man, 162 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: he can run, Um, he can do a lot of 163 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: interesting things with the ball in his hands. I like 164 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: the way that he plays It's just amazing to me 165 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: that Alabama had three guys on the field that could 166 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: just make it happen from anywhere on the field, and 167 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: sometimes that can kind of dim each player's light. But 168 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: when you look at Rugs man, I think Rugs is 169 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: not necessarily a number one receiver. I think he is 170 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: a high end number two receiver, meaning that you play 171 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: opposite someone that's kind of that big body guy, but 172 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: he brings the vertical element and some of that other stuff. 173 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: He's a terrific player. Every prospect we've talked about UM 174 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: kind of the idea of reverse engineering and UM in 175 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: terms of who are the good players in the draft 176 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: and maybe asking defensive coaches to look at offensive players, 177 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: ask offensive coaches to look at defensive players. And I 178 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: just have a feeling if you gave this stacker receivers 179 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: to defensive coordinators around the league and said who do 180 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 1: you not want in your division? I gotta feel in 181 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: Henry Ruggs would be the first person they would list. 182 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: They don't want to deal with that. You don't want 183 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: to have to deal with that speed man. That's a problem, 184 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: that is a problem for defenses. And he's gonna be 185 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: He's gonna be somebody. I think. I think he's got 186 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: a chance at the combine, we're gonna see he's gonna 187 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: be four to something. I think he's got a chance 188 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 1: to get underneath John Ross. Um, we'll see if he 189 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: can get down there. He's he's just it's it's stupid. 190 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: It's ridiculous speed. Yeah, it's ridiculous speed. And you're right. Um. 191 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: The reason why defensive coordinators and defensive players don't want 192 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: to have to deal with a guy like Roses because 193 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: his speed leads to explosive plays. And we have seen, 194 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: um how big plays impact scoring. And so when you 195 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: have a guy that can produce these chunk plays, these 196 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: forty plush yard plays, uh, at a moment's notice, it 197 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: is really really difficult. It changes the way that you 198 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: have to defend him. You gotta keep a safety overtop. 199 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: It loses the box. And so Henry Ruggs, for a 200 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: team that has a running threat, like a true running 201 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: back like uh, the Dallas Cowboys, he would be terrific 202 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: because he would stretch. He would make you put his 203 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: safety at the boss, create more running lanes for Ezekiel Elliott. Look, 204 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: he's a factor, he's a weapon. Man. I just love 205 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: watching him on tape, no doubt. Who do you got next? 206 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: Lavisca Chennault from Colorado? And Lavisca is different than all 207 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: of these other guys. I think what Lavisca is. I mean, look, 208 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: we talked about uh, shooters and scores and wide receiver terms. 209 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: He's a score because there's nothing about his game that 210 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: is really refined or polished. Like he's not a polished 211 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: route runner. He's not necessarily a polished or a textbook 212 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: pass catcher. But what he is, he's dangerous when he 213 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: has the ball in his hands. And your job as 214 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: an offensive coordinated when you take on a Lavisca Chanault, 215 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: how can we get him the ball eight to ten 216 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 1: times a game? Is that, Hey, let's get it to 217 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: almost some fly sweeps. Hey, let's put him in the wildcat, 218 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: Let's throw some hitches out there, some bubble screens. Uh. 219 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: A few weeks ago, we talked about the wing back. Uh. 220 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: What is the wing back? The the reincardnation of the 221 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: wing back. After watching Deebo Samuel, when I look at 222 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: Laviska Chanault, he can do the same things that Deebo 223 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 1: Samuels does for one offense. I agree with you. I 224 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: actually wrote down in terms of a comparison coming out 225 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: of college to marry A Thomas, because the Marrius Thomas, 226 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: we didn't know how refined he was gonna be. You know, 227 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 1: coming out of Georgia Tech, we just knew this guy 228 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: is just an athletic marvel. I have such an athletic dude. 229 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: He's so big and strong and fast, You're just gonna 230 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: figure it out. And I think that's kind of the 231 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: same theory here with Channault. No, it is the same thing. 232 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: Get the ball in his hands, let him do work. 233 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: He is physical, he's tough. He has a lot of 234 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: trace that you like. Um. I think he fits in 235 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: a lot of offense. But I think he comes with 236 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: some instructions. You have to know how to utilize him. 237 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: If you think you're getting a pure receiver, a pure 238 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 1: route runner, I think you might be a little disappointed. 239 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: I don't think he has the skills and the tools 240 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: like a Jerry Judy in terms of running routes, but 241 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 1: I do believe he has impact potential, which is why 242 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: you like him. We got next te Higgins. Te Higgins 243 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: is number five on my list, and te Higgins is 244 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: there because he's the next uh, big body playmaker to 245 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 1: have success. And when I saw talking about big body, 246 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about big physical body. I'm talking about 247 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: a stretch six four uh has length, has the ability 248 00:11:58,040 --> 00:11:59,599 Speaker 1: to kind of take it off the top of the 249 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: back word. You can throw those alleys to him along 250 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: the sideline. Should be a resale threat while also being 251 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: a vertical threat. May not be the toughest when it 252 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 1: comes to cross in the middle of the field, but 253 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: guess what has him go across the middle field? Keephim 254 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: on the outside. He'll be fine. I think he's I 255 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: think he's one of those playmakers that look, um, we 256 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: have seen tigg In Jr. Make a living in this league. 257 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: Being the vertical stretch player Tee Higgins can do a 258 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: lot of that gives you just a bigger package. Now 259 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: he's he's interesting. You know, there's a there's a real 260 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: strong debate and draft rooms around the league about him 261 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: because when you watch him, a get some of that 262 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: better competition. At the end of the year, he struggled 263 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: to separate, struggle to get off the line. So that's 264 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: gonna be the challenge there. I I do know he's 265 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: been uh he's he was hopefully going to be working 266 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 1: with t J. Hush Man Zada was supposed to be 267 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: on the way out to California to work with him. 268 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 1: Um from visit with that that training facility the other day. 269 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,479 Speaker 1: But man, he is Uh, he's a really really athletic 270 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: above the rim. You're hoping you're drafting a J. Green 271 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: when you draft him. I mean, that's that's kind of 272 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: what you're envisioning and hoping that he can be. Uh there, 273 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: I want to add a couple more guys here, bucket, 274 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: and then we can move on to the running backs. 275 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: Brandon i Uk is one of my favorite players in 276 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: the draft. He has been with t J. Houshman Zada. 277 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: He raps about this kid, but he's explosive in his release. Um, 278 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: he's tough, competitive, He's one of those returners, which I know, 279 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: going back to your Green Bay days, you love those guys, 280 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: uh that can do that in the return game. I 281 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: just wrote down he just wrote a baller. Man. I 282 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: know it's kind of cheesy, but this guy just a 283 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: ball er. He's just a freaking stud and I'm I'm 284 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: a huge fan of his game. I mean, it's easy 285 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: to fall in love with him. When you think about 286 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: this guy played opposite Nikio Harry Um didn't get as 287 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: many opportunities last year, but this year, man, he did. 288 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: Light came on and you're right. He is everything that 289 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: you look for under the old ways, under Rob Wolf 290 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: and the guys that I played with, the Antonio Freeman's, 291 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: the Robert Brooks is, the receivers that have have been 292 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: drafted in Green Bay for years and years on end. 293 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: There were guys that were specially with the ball in 294 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: their hands. You fits the build. His ability to make 295 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: things happen when he gets it into open field is 296 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 1: going to be uh one of those things that is 297 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: fun to watch. And creative offensive coordinator is gonna make 298 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: sure they feed him and feed him off and on 299 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: the perimeter, no doubt. And I want to just look, 300 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: there's a Jalen Reagor is gonna fly. J J. Hamdler 301 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: is gonna fly. It's gonna watch all those guys run. 302 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: But I just want to mention three guys because I 303 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: want to revisit this after the combine, because I have 304 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: these guys clumped in together. It's really good productive players. 305 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: But there's a speed question. And again, I don't need 306 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: these guys to run four four. I just don't want 307 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: them to run, you know, for seven. Um, so just 308 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: to see the speed here. Um Brian Edwards from South Carolina. 309 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: If he can get in the four anywhere in the 310 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: low four sixes would be great. If he's in the 311 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: four fives, he's dancing. He's a really good player. Isaiah 312 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: Hodgens from Oregon State another really good players. Speed is 313 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: the question on him. And then Tyler Johnson from Minnesota. 314 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: All three of those guys I have at the six 315 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: one range buck on the on the grading scale, and 316 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: I think they're you know, that's the question about them. 317 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: So who has the most game from the combine, I'd 318 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: say any of those three guys run, well, you'll see 319 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: them really start to move up. And then I have 320 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: two guys that I want to point out as as 321 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: guys that because the depth of the class kind of 322 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: what kind of overshadow them, they may get kind of 323 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: lost in the sauce. Um Lynn Bowden from Kentucky. Uh, 324 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: I didn't do him service. Yeah when I when I 325 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: didn't put him on my wingback thing because he does 326 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: so much. He end up playing quarterback for Kentucky. Maybe 327 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: the last five Games of the Year, terrific with the 328 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: ball in his hands. UH underappreciated. You talk about Antoine Randall, 329 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: l UH, we can talk about Haynes Ward. We can 330 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: talk about all those things. And because of the success 331 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: that we've seen teams UH teams will look at a 332 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: Taysom Hill and how Taysom Hill had impacted the game. 333 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: Balden doesn't have that size, but he does have that 334 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: creative potential where UH man UH innovative play call it 335 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: could use him and varide different ways. UM Donovan People's jones. 336 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: The reason why I'm gonna tell people to keep an 337 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: eye on him. He is a five star athlete UH size, athleticism, explosiveness, 338 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: he has some things that can pop and if he 339 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: tests really well, he could be one of those guys 340 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: that kind of comes out of nowhere and and becomes 341 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: a guy that is in the buzz in the scouting 342 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: community because highly decorated UH recruit coming out and goes 343 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: to Michigan. Has some plays, but not a lot of plays. 344 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: But in terms of a pure athlete, I don't know 345 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: if we'll find better in this draft class of the position. Now, 346 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: he's a good one and again just speaks to the 347 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: overall depth receivers are absolutely loaded, uh in this draft class. 348 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: That's gonna be fun to watch them compete there at 349 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: the combine. All Right, you want to switch gears over 350 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: to the to the running backs, not yeah, running backs. Look, 351 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: we I feel like we've talked about these running backs 352 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: for a while, but we'll we'll, We'll start DeAndre Swift. 353 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: Uh is the top running back for me, And I 354 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: think the thing when I look at Swift is he's 355 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: the natural Um. He can do anything and everything that 356 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: you want to see at the position. He can catch it, 357 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: he can run it. Um. He has a toughness to 358 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: kind of finish runs between the tackles. He can get 359 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,479 Speaker 1: to the perimeter, catches the ball all out of the backfield, 360 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: and I think he's solid and pass protection. To me, 361 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: he's my number one guy. All right. I want to 362 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you a comparison on him in just 363 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: a second, but I do want to rattle off the 364 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: number here as we've been doing as we go through 365 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: this position. Here, the average running back this is based 366 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: off rushing yards in twenty nineteen five eleven and three 367 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: quarters two hundred and twenty three pounds, so good size 368 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: with the average forty of a four or five too. UM. 369 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: So you've got average vertical thirty four inches, broad jump 370 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: ten to um. You've got a short shuttle seven one three. 371 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: But the interesting heightweight speed five eleven three quarters to 372 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: five two that's the average. The fastest is four four five, 373 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: the slowest was four six two. UM. So that's kind 374 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: of the range that we find ourselves in there. And 375 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 1: in regards to Swift, I have him as the top 376 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: running back two Buck compact, patient, excellent vision, quickness, elusiveness, 377 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: he'll drop his shoulder, more of kind of a cradle 378 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: catcher than a natural hands catcher, but still his function 379 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: in the passing game. I compared him just when I 380 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: looked at him size wise and skill set wise, Buck, 381 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: I compared him to a guy you were around in 382 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: D'Angelo Williams. I'd love to get your thoughts on that one. Oh, 383 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: that is a really good comparison. Man. D'Angelo Williams was 384 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: one of those guys, uh coming out of Memphis when 385 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: we dropt up to him, Uh, he kind of did everything. 386 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: He was kind of like a wildcat quarterback from Memphis. 387 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: UH during his final year there, and he was tough 388 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 1: enough could catch it. Uh just smooth man, just just sneaky, 389 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 1: could chop it up. Like we used to always talk 390 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: about it. The pitter pat. Uh can you see their 391 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: feet just kind of dance around or whatever. He has that. 392 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: Now when I look at DeAndre uh swift DeAndre swift man, 393 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: he has that pitter pat to get in and out 394 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 1: of holes and make breaks and make these jump cuts 395 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: and all this stuff. He can sequencing and put it together. 396 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: He's impressive. All Right, Who we got next? Uh, let's 397 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: go Lard from l oh now we're talking. Yeah, it 398 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 1: was Lard to me, is really really impressive, man, uh 399 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 1: DJ I think this is kind of unreported. He had 400 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: fifty receptions fifty plus receptions final season at l s U. 401 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: The way the game is trending, if you have a 402 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: running back they can catch the ball out the backfield, 403 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: gives you a chance to have a true three down 404 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: running back. He has that. He's not gonna light it up. 405 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: And so I'm glad that you put those numbers out 406 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: four or five two, because man, I think he maybe 407 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 1: four or five eight four five now maybe four six two, 408 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter. When I look at him, I 409 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: think of the young Frank Gore. They played in San Francisco. 410 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 1: Uh Frank Gore that totaled the rock and was physical 411 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: and it was tough and was amongst the top rushers 412 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: in the league while also catching the ball out the backfield. 413 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: That's what I see when I see ed Lar. Can 414 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: I give you my two comps here, But because I 415 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: was proud of myself on these two comps. He old school, 416 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: he's Priest Holmes, so he reminds me of I have 417 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: a chance to see him a lot in the in Baltimore. 418 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: Baltimore he had already left, but he was in Kansas 419 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: City and we were both really good teams during that 420 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: time period. And he's a problem but same body type, 421 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: same value in the passing game, just guys you can't 422 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: get on the ground with their strength. And then the 423 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: other one that I put down as a guy that 424 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:48,719 Speaker 1: I see every week doing the Charger games, and that's 425 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: Austin Ekeler. With how they used him in the passing game, 426 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: you can do the same exact thing with this kid. Um. 427 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,959 Speaker 1: He is short, compact, his football intelligence is off the charts. 428 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 1: Awareness and pass pro catch the ball. You can line 429 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: them up anywhere incredible leg drive, break break tackles. Um 430 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: talked to Joe Burrow the other day. I think I 431 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: mentioned this. He said, said, Man, you were at Ohio State, 432 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: You're at l s U. Who's Who's the best player 433 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: you've ever been around? Who's the best teammate you've had? 434 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: You know who? Who would you take with you? Who's 435 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,239 Speaker 1: the guy? He said, Clyde Edwards Hilaire is the best 436 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: football player I've ever played with. And he did not stutter. Wow, 437 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: that goes a long way, because you're talking about a 438 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: guy that played at too uh schools that are football 439 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: factories when it comes to the national football probably thirty 440 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: guys in this combine from those two schools, but yeah, 441 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,959 Speaker 1: he's got sixteen guys. Yeah it was a lawyer. He's terrific. 442 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: He's kind of like underrated in my estimation in terms 443 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,479 Speaker 1: of like the the When I say underrated, I mean 444 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: in terms of the national conversation. I don't believe we 445 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: hear a lot uh people talking about it was a lot. 446 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: But look, he's he is a terrific player. And I 447 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: think the guy that's right behind him for me, I mean, 448 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 1: you can flip it, hwe iver you wanted. I think 449 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: J K. Dobbins he's just as impressive as a player. 450 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 1: And we talked about the etch run that he had 451 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: at or Hi your State. I don't know if people 452 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 1: really paid attention to it, but the last six seven 453 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: games that are higher state, he showed people that he 454 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 1: could be a workhorce, tough physical, has the ability to 455 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: make these nice cuts inside he can create, which is 456 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: very very important to me for running backs, meaning that 457 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: it doesn't always have to be a clean hole for 458 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: him to get four plus yards. His ability to stop, start, 459 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 1: stick his head down and be able to kind of 460 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: power through some contact is impressive. And then it's really 461 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 1: just a matter of how can he be utilized in 462 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 1: the passing game. I think the big thing is when 463 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: you're looking at running backs in today's game, they have 464 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: to be uh functional plus in the passing game if 465 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 1: they really want to be considered like these every down backs. 466 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: Uh just kind of want to see how he catches 467 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: the ball at the comma. I don't see how natural 468 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: it is for him. Yeah, a couple of drops in 469 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: that Clemson game, but really you go through the rest 470 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: of the tape, I thought his hands were reliable. Um 471 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 1: he's really good in past protection, no hesitation, he's got power, 472 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 1: balance inside outside runner um. Just a really good football player. 473 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: And I have him right now in the in my 474 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: last update, I have him as my second running back, 475 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: and uh, he's he's it's a it's a debate between 476 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: him and and Edwards a layer for me. Interesting, you 477 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: have him right together. I'm gonna end up having them 478 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: right together as well. I think they're both really really good, 479 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: solid football players. Yeah. I mean that's that's what you're 480 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: looking for. You're running back. You want someone who's rock solid, dependable, reliable, 481 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: and tough. He has that. Uh. The fourth guy for 482 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: me is is probably surprised for a lot of people, 483 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: but cam Acres from Florida State to me, I think 484 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: the more we go through the process, the more I 485 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: believe he'll kind of rise. When I look at cam Acres, 486 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: I think it's his explosiveness, his illusiveness and tight areas um, 487 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: his ability to be able to make things happen on 488 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: the perimeter. I think he's gonna catch the ball better 489 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: than most people imagine. Uh. He's just a really really 490 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: good football player. I think he kind of get lost 491 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: in the monk that was Florida State football. But this 492 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: is what I believe a pro running back. He plays 493 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: it like a pro and I think he's have a 494 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 1: tremendous amount of success in the league. We talked about 495 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 1: it when we did our tears with running backs the 496 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: other day. I mean, he's up there, he's up there 497 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: in that tier. Um, he's somebody. You're gonna hear the 498 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: buzzle build, the buzzle build. As we get to the combine, 499 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: it's is more people start to really do their homework 500 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: and watch this kid. Um, he's big time. He is 501 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 1: a big time, big time talent and to the point 502 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: where I wouldn't be shocked if when it's all said done, 503 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: cam Akers was the second running back pick, Like, it 504 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: would not shock me at all if he ended up 505 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 1: in that range. He's got that type of ability. Um, 506 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: you see him do the Wildcats stuff. Buck Um play 507 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: a quarterback in high school. Yeah, there you go, there 508 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: you go. But he uh, um, he's patient. Uh, he 509 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: will press and bounce. Um, he's just got a really 510 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: good feel. He's a little slippery inside. Um. I just 511 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: I love his overall game. The only question that I had, 512 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: there's some there's some uh some misassignments in the past 513 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 1: protection that you gotta get cleaned up a little bit. 514 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: You gotta do a little work there on his mental 515 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: make sure that he understands what goes on in past protection, 516 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: because I had a little bit of a question mark there, 517 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 1: especially like the Notre Dame game. But um, overall, he's man, 518 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 1: he's yeah, he is gifted. And then Alaska, I have 519 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor from Wisconsin. The production speaks for itself. Um. 520 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: Love man, he two thousand plus yards, Uh, caught the 521 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: ball more this year than he had in previous years. 522 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: Like just really really solid all around. I think you 523 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: may want maybe a better athlete. I don't think his 524 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: numbers are going to wow anybody. But look, man, he's 525 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: just kind of steady eddie, just productive. Uh finishes physical 526 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 1: Uh he doesn't and he's been able to carry a 527 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: heavy workload. To me, I think it speaks not only 528 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: to your endurance physically, but your middle endurance because it's 529 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: tough to be a ground and when you get nailed, uh, 530 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 1: play after play after play. Now he's I wrote down production, 531 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: speed and strength. I mean he's he's more sudden than shifty. 532 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: And you'll see when he gets out in the open field. 533 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: He's gone him. He's got big time top speed, but 534 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: just not a lot of wiggle, not a lot of 535 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: make you miss in the past game. Gonna be more 536 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: involved in the screen game than really kind of putting 537 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: him out in the route. Um, I think that's where 538 00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: he's most comfortable. I just don't get a lot of 539 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: up some past protection at Wisconsin, they don't do it 540 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: very often, so he's usually getting out. So uh, that's 541 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: gonna be an area where he needs to get some 542 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: more reps and more experience. But man, you if you can, 543 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: if you can block it up and he hits crazy, 544 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: he's gone. Man, yeah he he he is, And uh, 545 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: it'll be fun to watch. But DJ we we've talked 546 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: about the running backs and people have been so successful 547 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: being able to find guys outside of those upper stages. 548 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: I kind of want to touch on some of the 549 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 1: guys that I like that won't be day one or 550 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: even maybe day two picks. Uh. The first guy that 551 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: stands out to me is Zack Moss running back from Utah, 552 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 1: and he's just a pro man. I just wrote down 553 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: in my notes, I was like, man, this is a 554 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 1: pro running back from the way that he toasted rock, 555 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: the way that he finishes runs, the physicality and toughness 556 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: that he displays when he's playing against Pac twelve opponents 557 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: catching it out the backfield. Uh, there's much that There's 558 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: not much that he can't do, and so I just 559 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 1: believe he fits. And if you're one of those teams 560 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: that kind of subscribe to the theory a man, we 561 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: will pick and choose later on. We'll wait to day 562 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: three or the fourth round to kind of find our 563 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: running back. Man. If I was doing that, I have 564 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: stars all around Zack moss because he is someone that 565 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: I think, uh, we'll go outside the first round, but 566 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: could be man a twelve thirte yard back four team. Uh, 567 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: teams trying to pair up running backs. A lot of 568 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: teams doing committees and that's just the way that the 569 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: future is. And a lot of teams that have that 570 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: speedback they're gonna love Zack moss Um I compared to 571 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: James Conner, that's who he reminds me of when needs 572 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 1: to come out of pit. Um obviously been a good 573 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: player there with the Steelers. I think he's got a 574 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: chance to go maybe a little bit higher than than 575 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: people think they're because a lot of teams that have 576 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 1: that faster guy cover this type of running style. And 577 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 1: then I'll flip it around the other side. Buck. If 578 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: you've got your banger and you want some speed, then 579 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: Darrenton Evans from me. You know my app State guy. 580 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: He's he's His game is very similar to Raheem Mostard. 581 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: If you watch what Raheem Moster did in the postseason, 582 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 1: which is just give him a little crease and watch 583 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 1: him go. Um, that's what that's what he is. And 584 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: I think teams that run that system get him in 585 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: the zone game where he's very comfortable outside zone. Um, 586 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,239 Speaker 1: he's gonna be very very good player to compliment your 587 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: bigger backyard have on campus. Because that's what this is 588 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: all about at this position right now. It's how do 589 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: how do? It's not finding the perfect back, it's finding 590 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: the perfect stable of backs that can help fill the 591 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: role here. Yeah, and and and that's it because like 592 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: when we get when we get to the stage is 593 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: like and that's the reason we talked about the separation 594 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: and the tears when we're having a conversation the other day, 595 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: Like those Tier one, maybe Tier two guys, they're kind 596 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: of you three down backs. These other guys are complimentary, 597 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: complimentary pieces that you're you're putting into a bigger part 598 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: of the puzzle. And there's some guys you talked about J. J. 599 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: Taylor the other day from Arizona being a guy that 600 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 1: intrigues you because of man, he he has some juice, 601 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 1: he has some big time talent. I like a guy 602 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: like a Keyshawn Vaughan from Vanderbilt. Uh, does a little 603 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 1: bit of everything. Uh. Not quite sure if he can 604 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: be the number one, but I certainly believe he can 605 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: fit and contribute as part of a rotation. Uh. A 606 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: guy that look I watched him play a few times. 607 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: Uh in Miami DJ Dallas. Uh. I don't know necessarily. Man, 608 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: really good football player, and I think you can't go 609 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 1: wrong Nextllent going after after good football players. He's a really, 610 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: really good football player. The thing is, with all of 611 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: these running backs, there are so many of them. Did 612 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: it impact your draft value? Yep, yep, They're They're a 613 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 1: zillion of them. Um. A J. Dillon's a home run 614 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: hitter from Boston College's two forty plus pounds, but it's 615 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: got good speed, not a lot of wiggle there with him. 616 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: We talked about Josh Kelly, who you loved at the 617 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: Senior Boy, and Tonio Gibson can be that wing back 618 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 1: that we've talked about. Um does a lot of things 619 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: there at Memphis. I mean the list goes on and on. 620 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 1: It's whatever flavor you want, man. Uh, those two positions, 621 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: the wide receiver position, in the running backs position. If 622 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: you have a need, Um, you're gonna enjoy this combine 623 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: because there's gonna be a lot of guys who can 624 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: help your football team. Yeah, a lot of guys, a 625 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: lot of guys that can be productive, a lot of 626 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: guys that can can contribute and help right away. Uh. 627 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: Should be fun, man, I'm really excited. I'm looking forward 628 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: to kind of seeing all these guys, skill guys get 629 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: a chance to perform early on in prime time. Should 630 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,719 Speaker 1: be a lot of fun, no doubt. All Right, that's 631 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: gonna do it for us. Uh. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm 632 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah to building a great job producing this bad Boy. 633 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys checking up out and be sure 634 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: to tune into the combine. It starts. The drills will 635 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: start Thursday evening. You can find that on NFL Network, 636 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: NFL dot com. We'll see you next time right here 637 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: on Move the sticks.