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Speaker 1: Hi. To this point in my life am not a parent,

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Speaker 1: So I've never had a child walk up to me

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Speaker 1: Never experienced that many of you have. I have, however,

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Speaker 1: experienced several people saying, Josh, do you think Archie is

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Speaker 1: college football since is roughly the same late kick live

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Speaker 1: and here to inform tonight, jam packed high top, a

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Speaker 1: can see out there spring game reaction. I got plenty

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Speaker 1: of that tonight. I've got a plea, a cry for patients,

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Speaker 1: for some of you who root for big time programs,

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Speaker 1: who I think may be in route to a six

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Speaker 1: this part. But maybe doing it right, Just maybe that

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Speaker 1: the oven's not quite hot enough this year. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about the Texas quarterback thing, not a controversy,

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Speaker 1: but a thing out in the state of Texas and

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Speaker 1: Florida State fans and this show. It is a budding

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Speaker 1: rivalry the likes of which we have not seen at

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Speaker 1: Peyt State in quite a while. Someone asked me about it,

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Speaker 1: and it occurred to me that not everyone gets it,

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Speaker 1: and so I will talk about that tonight. I got

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Speaker 1: some stuff on Lincoln Riley. I've got a lot to

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Speaker 1: the show live from Tuesday as well. We're watching, well

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Speaker 1: you're watching from Garden City, Kansas tonight. They're watching, according

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Speaker 1: to the live chat from Maxville, Florida. Don't think I'm

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Speaker 1: not paying attention. They're watching in Huntsville, Alabama and Hellotus, Texas.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much. I got two big stops

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Speaker 1: this week. The Pate State Speaker Series has gone like

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Speaker 1: fifteen stops deep great stuff. Last week we were at Florida,

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Speaker 1: All three of those conversations in their entirety or on

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Speaker 1: the YouTube channel if you want to watch or listen

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Speaker 1: to them, Hey, you know which sit down and which

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Speaker 1: stop on The Pate State Speakers series has gotten the

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Speaker 1: best reviews out of any we've done. It's the Mac

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Speaker 1: tell stories. Coach Quinn, who's my field producer, was in

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Speaker 1: and I thought they were all great, and you guys,

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to be making an announcement momentarily about

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Speaker 1: wanted to talk to you about reality versus expectation, and Colin,

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Speaker 1: I think that was obvious watching yesterday. But even if

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Speaker 1: it looked like it yesterday, your eyes may be deceiving

431
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Speaker 1: you a little bit there, Texas. I know it hurts

432
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Speaker 1: to hear. I know some people in the crowd need

433
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Speaker 1: to go ahead and the ear muffin now can win

434
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Speaker 1: a national championship this year. They haven't yet in this generation,

435
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Speaker 1: in this modern you know, past five or ten years generation,

436
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Speaker 1: be where they were selling all the merch. But look,

440
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Speaker 1: I don't care if you're an Oklahoma State fan, and

441
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Speaker 1: you couldn't care less if Texas exists or not. You

442
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Speaker 1: need chairs, you need big lead chew, you need coolers,

443
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Speaker 1: you need great fishing equipment, whatever it is. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how you live your life, but however you do,

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Speaker 1: Academy Sports and Outdoors one stop shop for all that

446
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Speaker 1: and beyond are. They are our exclusive partner and have

447
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448
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Speaker 1: in the avenue of life. I'm a minimalist, so I

449
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Speaker 1: find most everything I need there. As I said the

450
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Speaker 1: other day, aside from medicine, toothpaste, you know, things of

451
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Speaker 1: this nature. A vehicle. Academy has most of what I need,

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Speaker 1: and they'll have at least a lot of what you

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455
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Speaker 1: always been there for us and will be for a

456
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Speaker 1: long long time. There are gonna be two instances tonight

457
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Speaker 1: where I talk about this next team. One of them

458
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 1: is right now, and I don't know why it is, Colin,

459
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 1: but the way I have my laptop angled the live

460
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Speaker 1: chat is it feels like it's right in my face,

461
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: which means I'm seeing a lot of these comments, and

462
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest. At any given point, I could

463
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Speaker 1: just abandon the show and just talk back and forth

464
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Speaker 1: with the live chat. For example, Yes, I mean I've

465
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Speaker 1: got my lip vomits right here. We look at that.

466
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Speaker 1: I peeled the label off because they haven't paid for advertising.

467
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Speaker 1: But I mean, I think we all know what's going

468
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Speaker 1: on here, kind of a shaded yellow hue with a

469
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Speaker 1: blue tip. I think we all know what's going on there.

470
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Speaker 1: But I digress. Okay, So this next team. A lot

471
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Speaker 1: of talk about this next team. I mean, there's some

472
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Speaker 1: wild swings and opinion from what I saw nationally yesterday

473
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Speaker 1: before I watched the spring game. Florida State had their

474
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Speaker 1: springs game yesterday. I was in the unique position where

475
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Speaker 1: I saw what people were saying about it before I

476
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Speaker 1: watched it, because I didn't get to watch it live.

477
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Speaker 1: I wondered what we'd see from djuy Angliala. It's been

478
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Speaker 1: a really interesting route that he's taken, really interesting color

479
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Speaker 1: uniforms they wore yesterday, Clemson to Oregon State to Florida State,

480
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Speaker 1: and anybody who's watched that dude knows. Physical tools are there.

481
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Speaker 1: We talked about this last week. Physical tools have always

482
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Speaker 1: been there. Poise, accuracy, decision making hasn't always been there.

483
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Speaker 1: So the great unknown and the thing we've been following

484
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Speaker 1: throughout Florida State's spring practice is will he improve in

485
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Speaker 1: those areas? And I had reason to believe, just based

486
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Speaker 1: on some of our folks down there that he had

487
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Speaker 1: made some form of improvement, especially over the last week

488
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Speaker 1: to two weeks in those categories. Yesterday, I wouldn't call

489
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Speaker 1: it overly special at all. I thought he looked very pedestrian.

490
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Speaker 1: It was Dju. It was dj uey Angolile. That's a

491
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Speaker 1: lot of caffeine before the show. It was Dju. It

492
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Speaker 1: was flashes, but some inconsistency, and it probably left you

493
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Speaker 1: hoping that there is a lot of improvement if you're

494
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Speaker 1: a Florida State fan between now and week one, because

495
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Speaker 1: if that's the product that you get, you probably can't

496
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Speaker 1: lean on that to make a deep run in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: But you also know there's a lot of time still.

498
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Speaker 1: You got summer workouts, you got fall camp, and you

499
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Speaker 1: got the right coaching staff to develop him. How much

500
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Speaker 1: development can be expected be real with the expectations there,

501
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Speaker 1: So let's just say we play it safe on Florida State.

502
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Speaker 1: That's how I'm gonna choose to go about this. I'm

503
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Speaker 1: going to assume we get incremental improvement. But I don't

504
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Speaker 1: see Jordan Travis two point zero this year at quarterback

505
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Speaker 1: for Florida State. That just means that they have to

506
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Speaker 1: play a more complimentary style. And that's where I want

507
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Speaker 1: to talk about their tailback room, because they got horses

508
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Speaker 1: in the tailback room. They got a lot of them.

509
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Speaker 1: They got Jayalen Lucas is a guy yesterday who had

510
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Speaker 1: multiple ten plus yard runs, elite speed, Keziah Holmes, Lawrence

511
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Speaker 1: to Afeeli, the Royd L. Williams transferred from Alabama down there.

512
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Speaker 1: So they've got the guys. If they want to play

513
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Speaker 1: a more Michigan style of football, if you will, but hey,

514
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Speaker 1: it's not foreign in terms of concept. Cause remember Travis

515
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Speaker 1: didn't go down against Georgia last year. Travis went down

516
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Speaker 1: with two or three games left in the season and

517
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Speaker 1: they had to revert to that style of play and

518
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Speaker 1: it may not have been pretty, may not have been

519
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Speaker 1: aesthetically pleasing, but the run game in the defense had

520
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Speaker 1: to win them games down the stretch last year and

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Speaker 1: they did. So this is not something Florida State has

522
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Speaker 1: to learn to do. I just think it's something they

523
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Speaker 1: may have to lean on the idea of doing a

524
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Speaker 1: little bit more this year. Pass rush could be really solid.

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Speaker 1: We kept hearing Aaron Hester's name and according to Brendan

526
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Speaker 1: Snon over there at NOLS twenty four to seven. He

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Speaker 1: accounted for at least five quarterback pressures yesterday. It's always

528
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Speaker 1: hard to tell in the spring game, but he was

529
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Speaker 1: going against the starting right tackle or they're projected starting

530
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Speaker 1: right tackle for most of the day, Marvin Jones juniors

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Speaker 1: on that defensive front as well. So again, there're gonna

532
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Speaker 1: be a lot of areas of this team, kind of

533
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Speaker 1: like we were talking about with Texas. Where you go,

534
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Speaker 1: I can count on that, I can count on that,

535
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Speaker 1: I can count on that. The way to look at

536
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Speaker 1: exiting spring and entering summer and in fall camps is yes,

537
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: we know perceived areas of strength, and yes, everyone's going

538
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: to try and improve themselves in the portal if they

539
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 1: can heap map the team. Where are the cold pockets? They,

540
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Speaker 1: by the way, at Florida State had NCAA penalty to pay,

541
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Speaker 1: so they have to wait until tonight, as I'm talking

542
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Speaker 1: to you at Sunday, they have to wait until tonight

543
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Speaker 1: at midnight to start contacting transfers. So I imagine a

544
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Speaker 1: lot of them are probably napping right now so that

545
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Speaker 1: they can work all throughout the night. Florida State's in

546
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Speaker 1: a little bit different position here now. One of the

547
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Speaker 1: big things that frankly I overlooked in this second portal

548
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Speaker 1: window was the whole rule with the SEC that they

549
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Speaker 1: can't go after other players in the same conference. SCC

550
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Speaker 1: teams cannot go take SEC players in the spring portal

551
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Speaker 1: window and have them eligible this year. Florida State's not

552
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Speaker 1: in the SEC, and Florida State probably got some money

553
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: to spend and they got some needs down there, and

554
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: they got the entire SEC to look over and say, huh,

555
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: we already took some do we want to take any more?

556
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Speaker 1: Are there any available? We'll see, But I would always

557
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Speaker 1: be cautious with some of those teams in the ACC

558
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Speaker 1: who are exiting spring ball calls. They can come take

559
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Speaker 1: whoever they want to, who wants to hop a board

560
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Speaker 1: in the SEC. Can't necessarily do that if you're Georgia

561
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Speaker 1: or LSU or Alabama. All right, let's move on. I'm

562
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Speaker 1: not done, by the way in this show talking about

563
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Speaker 1: Florida State. I got something else to say a little

564
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Speaker 1: bit later, probably should have been said like three months ago,

565
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Speaker 1: but I'll say it tonight. Oklahoma spring game yesterday least

566
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Speaker 1: shocking headline of spring, but it's worth a paper pop

567
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: least shocking headline. Dion Burks goes off for Oklahoma. Five catches,

568
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Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy four yards, two touchdowns, both of

569
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Speaker 1: the fifty plus yard variety, and salute to Toby Keith.

570
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: I see they paid him so honor on the field there.

571
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: Dion Burk's transferred there from Purdue, so he's been there

572
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: a very short time. It's pretty wild to hear people

573
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Speaker 1: around Oklahoma talk about him. Dion Burks may be their

574
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Speaker 1: best receiver this year, but also he's like one of

575
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Speaker 1: the faces of the team, and he hasn't even played

576
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: a game there, and he's played a spring game. But

577
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Speaker 1: for whatever reason, Deon Burgs is the kind of guy.

578
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: This happens occasionally when you get the right kind of

579
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: mentality combined with the right skill set at the right time.

580
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: When they walk in the door, the room just start

581
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Speaker 1: scravitating around him. I'm not telling you he's a selfish

582
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Speaker 1: guy at all. Quite the opposite. Everyone loves him there.

583
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Speaker 1: They love him because they need him there, and he's

584
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Speaker 1: working out of that slot position that you saw Drake

585
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Speaker 1: Stoops in last year, except he's got a little bit

586
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: different gear than Drake Stoops. So you want to buy

587
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: some stock in like a connection. FanDuel at FanDuel, Can

588
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: we do this if we want to place maybe some

589
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: prop bets on quarterback to wide receiver connections this year,

590
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: Jackson Arnold to Dion Burks, I'll take all of that.

591
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: Whatever my limit is, go ahead and insert my limit there.

592
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Speaker 1: And also not shocking. Defensive line looks pretty good for Oklahoma,

593
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: at least to me, they looked really improved. White team

594
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: had seven sacks yesterday. Secondary, they'll be okay. They're missing

595
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: a couple of veterans that they'll have in the season,

596
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: so I know they gave up a few chunk plays.

597
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: I think they'll be okay there. I think their defense

598
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: will be okay. Offensive line, now, that was the big

599
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: point of focus. And I'm not ready to say we're

600
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Speaker 1: out of the woods. Certainly not out of the woods there,

601
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Speaker 1: Certainly not, I thought. Because so little was expected, they

602
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Speaker 1: pleasantly surprised me. Got to give it a second look.

603
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: I've only watched the game once, but I'm gonna say

604
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: this with a very purposeful tone. Oklahoma offensive line better

605
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: than expected. Dare we say we better keep quiet on this?

606
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: They did make a move in the portal I'll talk

607
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: about it in a second, because this was a big

608
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Speaker 1: recruiting event. Yes, was a big recruiting of and it's

609
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: already paying dividends because as you see on the screen

610
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Speaker 1: if you're watching on YouTube, Branson Hickman has committed to Oklahoma.

611
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: Like in the past couple of hours. That was SMU's

612
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Speaker 1: starting center last year. He's likely going to be Oklahoma's

613
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Speaker 1: starting center. He started all fourteen last year. He was

614
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Speaker 1: All AAC second team, zero sacks allowed in five hundred

615
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Speaker 1: and seventeen pass blocking snaps according to our fine friends

616
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Speaker 1: at PFF. So that's one. I don't think they're done,

617
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Speaker 1: but that's one I felt like Arnold to Burg's. It's

618
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Speaker 1: just some of the things that stick with you stick

619
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Speaker 1: in your mind. I remember ad Mitchell a few years

620
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: ago at Georgia kind of popped off in the spring game. Well,

621
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Speaker 1: he ends up catching balls to win a national title.

622
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Speaker 1: This is not my Oklahoma wins the national title moment

623
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Speaker 1: or anything. But outside of injury, I'd be very surprised

624
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Speaker 1: if we didn't see Dion Burgs go off this fault.

625
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: That's not a mirage, that's not an illusion. That's just

626
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: a playmaker that walked in the door in Norman, Oklahoma.

627
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Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter how long he's been there. He

628
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: is one of the centralized focal points of that team.

629
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Speaker 1: Now they are watching us. Are they in Piscataway, New Jersey,

630
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Speaker 1: home of the Rutgers Scarlet Knights. They're watching us in Cincinnati, Ohio?

631
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Speaker 1: They're watching us in Vidalia, Georgia. Thank you, guys, so

632
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: so much big time growth on the show. Big time growth.

633
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Speaker 1: Got a lot that we're adding to our numbers weekly.

634
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Speaker 1: I was talking to director Colin before the show and

635
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Speaker 1: I said, Colin, you know, we get so many new

636
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Speaker 1: viewers and listeners. Do you think people who are new

637
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: here get the show? A lot of inside references, a

638
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: lot of weirdness? What does immunity mean? What is peate state?

639
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: I asked him. Do you think that we should just

640
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Speaker 1: have a refresher video? Do you think we should do

641
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: a here's who we are type video? Would it even

642
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Speaker 1: be a video open ended? I'm open to suggestions on that,

643
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: by the way, because I think we need something like

644
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: that because it's been a long time since we just

645
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Speaker 1: explained ourselves around here, and we have added hundreds of

646
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: thousands of you since then. So probably more than that.

647
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Speaker 1: We appreciate you guys, though, if I promise you, if

648
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: you stick around, it'll eventually makes sense. And if it doesn't,

649
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: just ask someone in the comments and they'll explain it

650
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: to you. Well, here we go. We don't believe in

651
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: defending a national championship around here. Now. Would be an

652
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: interesting world if the NCAA made you actively defend your

653
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: championship like it was you know, the Intercontinental Championship Belt

654
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: or something. But Michigan does not have to defend their

655
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: championship this year. However, Michigan just won a national championship.

656
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Speaker 1: And that leads me to yesterday. Because Michigan had their

657
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: spring game and I did not get what I expected.

658
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: I did not. It's my fault. It's my fault because

659
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: I haven't paid enough attention to the Michigan quarterback room

660
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: this spring. I've paid attention to what I thought, and

661
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: that's a dangerous thing. That's a dangerous thing. In spring,

662
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: alex Orgy, I have assumed was going to be the

663
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: starting quarterback up there. And you know what, if I

664
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Speaker 1: had to pencil in the depth chart today, I'd probably

665
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: still put QB one next to his name. But Davis

666
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: Warren looked like he was the starting quarterback of this

667
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,280
Speaker 1: team yesterday. That's one man's opinion from watching a Michigan

668
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: spring game. I think the fan base, while you guys

669
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: have followed this a lot more closely, I think the

670
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 1: fan base also after watching the game yesterday, not ready

671
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: to call quarterback controversy because again, we don't believe in that.

672
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 1: But this thing is a much more wide open competition,

673
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 1: at least than people like me thought it was. Again,

674
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: maybe that was my ignorance to the situation and I

675
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: hadn't been paying enough attention to it. My best read

676
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 1: on this thing is Alex Orgi is the current QB

677
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: one of that team. I just I don't think there

678
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: is one. JJ McCarthy walks out the door. No one's

679
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: taken that job yet, no one's taken that job. I

680
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 1: don't think this is one of those illusionary quarterback battles

681
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: where the coaching staff just tries to maintain that illusion,

682
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: so neither guy transfers. I think got quite the opposite.

683
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: This feels like the kind of recipe where it it's

684
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: a season where multiple games feature multiple quarterbacks playing. It's

685
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: not a bad thing either. If you've got guys with

686
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: different skill sets. I mean, Alex Orgie is sort of

687
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: one of one when it comes to certain things he

688
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: can do athletically. Having said that, if you're the kind

689
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: of team that has like a Donovan Edwards in the

690
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: backfield and you have the kind of defense they have,

691
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: do I really wanna This is open ended because we

692
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: got a long way to go, But I'm thinking as

693
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Speaker 1: a Michigan fan, like, if I'm watching this situation, do

694
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Speaker 1: I want to have the guy who seems a little

695
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: bit more firmly in grasp of the offense making better decisions?

696
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Speaker 1: Or do I want to see a guy who struggles

697
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Speaker 1: somewhat with accuracy and decision making, but he's a great athlete.

698
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: Because what that tells me, what that indicates to me

699
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: is wild fluctuations and potential outcome of games. I want

700
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: to get as much of that voluntility out of the

701
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: equation as possible. And so I am now completely and

702
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 1: utterly fascinated with how Sharon Moore his offensive staff will

703
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: handle this quarterback situation. Completely fascinated by it. Fred Moore

704
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: popped off the screen to me that Michigan I did

705
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: not realize this either, Michigan lost five wide receivers who

706
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: were six foot of taller, five scholarship receivers six foot

707
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: of taller off last year's team, and more six to one.

708
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,720
Speaker 1: But he's got really really good speed. They could add

709
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,919
Speaker 1: multiple wide receivers here if the situation's right, I think

710
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 1: Michigan could. They're definitely in the market. There's no thinking

711
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 1: they're in the market for receiver help. There is a toughness, though, man,

712
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: that wasn't going to disappear overnight, and I don't think

713
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: it's going to disappear at all. It's Michigan football. But

714
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: it's always something that no matter how many guys walk

715
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: out the door, no matter how many guys go to

716
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft, there is a way that they play

717
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: that it makes it very tough for me to discount them.

718
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: And I'm certainly not discounting the fact that they could

719
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Speaker 1: contend for the Big Ten championship again this year. I'm

720
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Speaker 1: just saying, even if I get to a point like

721
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: second week of August or you know, second week of

722
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: the season, and they're not looking nearly like they did

723
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: last year. Number one is a developmental game. Number two,

724
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: it's a brand new staff and number three. That's the

725
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: kind of team that can sort of scale then their

726
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: own production during the season. At quarterback situation, though, let's

727
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: just see. Let's see how that works out. In the

728
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: words of Richard Marx, I should have known better, but

729
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 1: I didn't. Never assume. Don't be the guy saying I

730
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 1: told you so after spring games. Great advice from Memo.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's continue. Yeah, it's that time. It's that

732
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: portion of the show where I have to answer a

733
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: Twitter question. So I don't think this is going anywhere

734
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,720
Speaker 1: anytime soon. I've already had a few of these because

735
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: I've been I've been discussing USC in an abstract way.

736
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: Look at that. I don't even have a chalice on set.

737
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 1: It's got a normal plastic cup with a mysterious orange

738
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: liquor in it. Now that's gone. Let me read you

739
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: this question. I'm gonna warn you ahead of time. I'm

740
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: gonna warn you guys, especially if you're new around here.

741
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: It's gonna sound like I'm going after Larry's throat here.

742
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 1: I'm not. I love Larry or as he goes on

743
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: the streets at dead Z ninety two. I love him,

744
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 1: but man, I get so tired of this, Colin, here's

745
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: your inpoint. Larry hit me and said, hey, I can't

746
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: be the only one that thinks that USC still has

747
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: a ways to go with this so called defensive revolution

748
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: that's being gassed up right now. What am I supposed

749
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: to do with this? This just gets dropped in my lap.

750
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 1: Today Bradley comes to me. He says, hey, you want

751
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 1: to throw this in the show? No, but yeah, go

752
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: ahead and do it. Larry. The revolution started ten minutes ago.

753
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 1: It was just like ten minutes ago that Lincoln Riley

754
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: looked in the mirror and said, I gotta change everything

755
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: about my program. Larry. It shocked you. Maybe it did

756
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: not shock me that in USC's literal spring game they

757
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: didn't look like the eighty five Bears. You kidding? Really

758
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 1: it's not figured out yet, huh. I am myra Lincoln

759
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: Riley for making this call. They're gonna be bad defensively

760
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 1: again this year. Say two things could be true there.

761
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley made the call he needed to. He made

762
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: the moves he needed to. Hopefully fingers crossed the philosophical shift,

763
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: pressed all the right buttons and they start moving in

764
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: the right direction. But this is not a one year deal.

765
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: He knows that. I mean, Lincoln Riley knows that. I'm

766
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 1: not talking to him. I'm talking to folks who think

767
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: that all you have to do in college football to

768
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: totally overhaul a way that you play this game is

769
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: say it. Just speak it into a microphone and have

770
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 1: a few practices in spring and you're good to go.

771
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: That's not real life. This is not Xbox, Larry, unplug it, man,

772
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 1: this is the real world. You can't just go revolution.

773
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,280
Speaker 1: I think a defense on a whim. Imagine this, Larry.

774
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 1: Imagine if Kirk Ferrence at IOWA stepped to the podium

775
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 1: and said we're gonna try to be elite on offense,

776
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: and after you got through chuckling, you watched the Iowa

777
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: offensive spring game and you said, this offensive revolution seems

778
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: like it's missing a little something. Players. That's what it's missing,

779
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: time and players. USC was horrific last year. Defensively, they

780
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: were one hundredth or worse in virtually every major defensive

781
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 1: statistical category. Put another way, that have to improve significantly

782
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: to just be below average defensively. This year, they tore

783
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 1: it down to the studs. They're rebuilding it from scratch.

784
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 1: They're still installing. I don't care what Lincoln Riley says.

785
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: I don't care that he says he loves how it went.

786
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: He may he may love how Spring went. They're still

787
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: installing this thing that they throw. I guarantee you what

788
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,479
Speaker 1: they did is they met as a staff and they said,

789
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: screw it. Throw as much at him as you possibly

790
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: can see what sticks against the wall. A lot of

791
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: it's gonna fall down to the ground, and we can

792
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 1: scoop all that up, and we can deal with that

793
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 1: in May and June and July, and then we get

794
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: after it in August and hopefully we have a respectable

795
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: product we can put on the field. They're not slow

796
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: playing it. I guarantee you they they're not. They're not

797
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:23,479
Speaker 1: feeding little Gerber baby apple sauce to those guys. They're

798
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: throwing it at him. They don't have good enough players

799
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 1: right now, defensive Revolution. I don't care if Lincoln Riley

800
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: hired all the right guys and made all the right moves.

801
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: This is what I was trying to explain earlier in

802
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: the show. I got immense respect for Lincoln Riley for

803
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: doing this, doing it right. From this point forward, at

804
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: USC is gonna take a couple of years minimum to

805
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: get anywhere close to the kind of product on the

806
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: field that you want. Like I said, it's gonna sound

807
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: like I'm going at Larry, I'm not. This is just

808
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 1: it's Larry's not ignorant. Larry is not ignorant, he said,

809
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: an ignorant thing. This is bumper sticker logic. Okay, this

810
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: is like the food when you are in the airport

811
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: and you go to the Starbucks and you look at

812
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: the samples of the food there. It looks like a

813
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: maple chicken biscuit. That thing's been there three years. It

814
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: is for esthetics and cosmetic purposes only. Don't be biting

815
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: into that thing. That's what this tweet was. It was

816
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,959
Speaker 1: like a showroom tweet. It's not built to withstand any

817
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: legitimate scrutiny. It's not built to be walked through to

818
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: a logical conclusion. Larry just threw that thing out there

819
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: and then hit the gas and drove away. Well, we

820
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: saw it, Larry, and Bradley the associate saw it, and

821
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: thank goodness, he brought it to my attention. Even if

822
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: every correct button is pressed at Southern cal they will

823
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: be well below average defensively this year but you can

824
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: feel it changing. You can feel the recruiting shift happening.

825
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 1: Look at him right now. Don't be coming back. Don't

826
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: be throwing it in reverse, Larry and peeling your way

827
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: back down the road and saying uh uh. Recruiting rankings

828
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: mean nothing in April. Well, yes they do, yet they

829
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 1: don't mean everything. They don't mean everything. But like I

830
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: do every year when I talk about someone's recruiting class

831
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 1: and then someone tells me those commitments mean nothing, and

832
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: I say, yes they do, and you say no, they don't.

833
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,959
Speaker 1: We do that for like five more times. I tell

834
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: you put up five hundred dollars per kid, and for

835
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: everyone who stays committed, you pay me five hundred. And

836
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: for everyone who decommits and goes elsewhere, I pay you

837
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: five hundred. No one ever takes me up on the offer.

838
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: Of course, while they know, yes, there will be kids

839
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: who decommit, even I know that the bulk majority of

840
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: the commitments are gonna stick. They do every year, guys

841
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: in major classes. The reason I'm saying that about Southern

842
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: cal is because they're making some noise in recruiting right now.

843
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: Defensive guys at premium defensive positions from the South, and

844
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: they hadn't done that to this point under Lincoln. So

845
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: this sounds like I'm hating on USC. Quite the opposite.

846
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 1: I'm dealing some truth on USC. It may be in

847
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 1: short supply because there is the school of Larry out

848
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: there that believes once you step to a podium and

849
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: say you're revolutionizing your defense, you're changing your defense. It's

850
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: just changed. There it is. And if it doesn't look

851
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: that way at the conclusion of spring practice, well you

852
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: must have dropped the ball on that one. No, Larry,

853
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Speaker 1: do we have that floridasta? Yeah? So here we go.

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Speaker 1: Here we go. Let me finish my cup over here.

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Speaker 1: It's been a really good show. I did not I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at the live chat here. I did not talk

916
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: about Notre Dame Spring game because I have not gotten

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00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: were so many guys missing. I thought it would not

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Speaker 1: be very productive for us to talk about that one.

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00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: So those two I'm not touching on tonight, just because

921
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: people were asking I should look at the live chat more.

922
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: We have this thing, and I should really look at

923
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: it more, which is crazy because I went on Rafino

924
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 1: show earlier tonight and I infiltrated his live chat. But

925
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: I'm not paying attention to my own. That's crazy. We'll

926
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: make resolutions. Got a revolution on defense for us. See,

927
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: we are making resolutions on the show. Okay, here we go. No,

928
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:33,720
Speaker 1: this is not tang in the cup. Charlie from Santa Monica,

929
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: California hit me and said, hey, what's the deal with

930
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: all the Florida State fans hating on you these days? Well, Charlie,

931
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: they don't all hate. In fact, most of them don't,

932
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 1: but the ones who are vocal do. We have had

933
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934
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: so we've never had more Florida State folks watching the

935
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: show than we do now. But some of them do

936
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: hate the show. Some of them do strongly dislike me.

937
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: Hates a strong word. They can use it if they

938
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: want to, but some do feel that way, and I

939
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 1: get it. We've talked about this, but it's been a

940
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: little while, so I'll just quickly walk you down how

941
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 1: this happened and if you're unfamiliar, but you remember what

942
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 1: happened with Florida State last year. Here's how this went down.

943
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: They got a lot of reason to be mad, even

944
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: at folks like me. So I haven't fought back on that.

945
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 1: I've just kind of said it is what it is.

946
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: So Florida State folks believed that they deserved to be

947
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 1: in the college football playoff last year and they didn't

948
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,280
Speaker 1: make it in and that made them very, very angry.

949
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: They also believed there were a lot of major voices

950
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: and entities in the college football and sports media sphere

951
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 1: that conspired against them. While I thought a lot of

952
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: that was blown out of proportion, I thought there was

953
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: some validity to that as well. They lumped me in

954
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: with that because I flip flopped my position that I

955
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: admit I've completely changed my opinion on the thing. In

956
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Speaker 1: the latter stages of last season, I went from if

957
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Speaker 1: Florida State is left out of the playoff, it'll be

958
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: a travesty. I think I said something like I'll do

959
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Speaker 1: an entire show talking about how big a travesty that was,

960
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: which was a little hyperbolic, but I did say it.

961
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Speaker 1: So if you hold me to that, you hold me

962
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 1: to that. I went from saying that to saying I

963
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: thought the committee put the right four teams in. That's

964
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,399
Speaker 1: obviously a change in stance. It looks that way because

965
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Speaker 1: it is. I changed my opinion on the thing, so

966
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: there was no path for me. I mean that this

967
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Speaker 1: is what happened. I got to the end of the

968
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969
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Speaker 1: just changed what I thought should happen in my own mind.

970
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 1: What I thought changed. I don't know if anybody else

971
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 1: has ever had a change of opinion before I had one,

972
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: and it happened to be on a very high profile topic.

973
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 1: I wasn't singing a corporate tune, and when it CBS

974
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Speaker 1: told me to do that, no other major personality in

975
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Speaker 1: the space texted me and said, hey, hey, come along

976
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: with us. We're gonna turn on Florida State down with

977
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Speaker 1: the knows. It was nothing like that, at least as

978
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,760
Speaker 1: far as I know. It was nothing like that. I

979
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Speaker 1: just found myself in kind of a no win position

980
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: because I'd already opened my mouth and I said one thing.

981
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: Then I started to feel a different way. So I

982
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,319
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983
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Speaker 1: sake of consistency, saying one thing, or I could just

984
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Speaker 1: change my tune and talk about how I felt in

985
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Speaker 1: the moment and sound like a flip flopper. And that's

986
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: exactly how I sounded. And a lot of Florida State

987
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 1: folks looked at people like me and they said, good

988
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Speaker 1: for that guy. At least he's still honest, while all

989
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: these other you know what's have turned on us. Well,

990
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: then when I started to sound like them, the Florida

991
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 1: State folks in some ways took it more personal because

992
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993
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: but you. And then it got ugly, at least Internet ugly.

994
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: So here's where I found myself. There was no path

995
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,080
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996
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: There was no path for me because I said, and

997
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: still feel this way. I've not changed how I feel

998
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Speaker 1: about this. I despise when injuries happen late in a

999
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: year and then committees full of people start to think

1000
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Speaker 1: that they know better than the results on the field

1001
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Speaker 1: about what the value of a player is. And then

1002
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: we get that crowd that starts talking about who would

1003
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Speaker 1: be favored against who, And that is not the way

1004
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: sports are supposed to work. It's supposed to be decided

1005
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 1: on the field. I feel that way, like now I

1006
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Speaker 1: feel that way. So I've got that in one ear

1007
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Speaker 1: here and in the other ear. I also felt like,

1008
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Speaker 1: having considered that, having put that in the blender, I

1009
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Speaker 1: still felt like there were four teams that should be

1010
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: in that thing before Florida State. I thought both of

1011
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: those things. Most other people you heard have the argument,

1012
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: they either just flat out felt Florida State should have

1013
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: been in, or they thought the Travis injury should keep

1014
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: Florida State out. That's not how I necessarily looked at it.

1015
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: So anyway, it's really really it's like a four flavored

1016
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: pot of jello. It just looks it's just taste terrible.

1017
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: But that's where my mind was. So I was just

1018
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: completely honest about it. Still am completely honest about it,

1019
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,919
Speaker 1: and a lot of Florida State folks got turned off

1020
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: as a result of that. Now, infinitely more of them

1021
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: who have privately messaged me, said hey, I hate that

1022
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,399
Speaker 1: you feel that way. I do appreciate you at least

1023
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: just shooting straight. I don't have to agree with you

1024
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: on everything, like the show. Thanks for what you do.

1025
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. There's no blah like I appreciate you

1026
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: guys saying that, But I just tried to be real

1027
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: about it, and it turned some folks off. And I

1028
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: don't blame you. I mean, if I were a fan

1029
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 1: of Florida State and I listen to someone say all

1030
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: this stuff I said, I'd probably say, are you serious

1031
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 1: enough of that guy? I'm gone, I can't, So I

1032
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,280
Speaker 1: can't blame people for feeling like that. If we lost

1033
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: some viewers and listeners over it, we lost some viewers

1034
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: and listeners over it. At the end of the day,

1035
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: you got choices. You got choices, and if our show

1036
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 1: is not good enough for you, or if that turns

1037
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: you off, it turns you off. Hate it. I didn't

1038
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: want it to be that way. Don't wish it was

1039
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: that way. Love Florida State, love everything about Florida State.

1040
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: Got zero point zero zero percent ill will towards Florida State.

1041
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: Loved the fan base as well. So that's how I

1042
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,399
Speaker 1: feel about it. I saw the rings they made, Now

1043
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: I will tell you where I fall on this. So

1044
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 1: they made thirteen and o unconquered rings. And there were

1045
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: some people who said, oh, that's pathetic because you didn't

1046
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: make the playoff. What are you making rings for and

1047
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: then there were other people who said you weren't thirteen

1048
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,240
Speaker 1: and oh you were thirteen and one have we forgotten

1049
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: the Orange Bowl? I would have done exactly what Florida

1050
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: State did. I would have made thirteen and oh rings

1051
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: because if you've gotten to the point where they are,

1052
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: you long since stopped caring about what other people think.

1053
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,240
Speaker 1: First off, I would argue you never should have cared,

1054
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: but you've long since stopped caring about that. Number two,

1055
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: everybody who matters knows that the team who played in

1056
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 1: the Orange Bowl was not Florida State from last year.

1057
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 1: So if the system, in your opinion, was built against

1058
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: you and then set out to to take you down

1059
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: and then they put you down in Miami to play Georgia,

1060
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: don't honor an outcome you didn't respect being a part

1061
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 1: of to begin with. And if people like it, if

1062
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: people don't like it, too bad. So I don't plan

1063
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 1: to get one of those unconquered rings. But I'm saying

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Speaker 1: I like the ring. Hey, we got a lot of

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Speaker 1: folks from the Florida State fan base who watched the show.

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Speaker 1: We got some who used to who don't anymore, who

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Speaker 1: don't respect the show as much it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: I shot straight with you. That's what I'll always do.

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Speaker 1: I could have done the opposite and lied to you

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Speaker 1: about how I felt, but I didn't, So in a nutshell,

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Speaker 1: that is what's going on with Florida State Folks and

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Speaker 1: our show, and that is our show. It felt like

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Speaker 1: it ended on a somber note, but it really didn't.

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Speaker 1: It's been a very very happy period here. We are

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Speaker 1: headed back out on the road for Tuesday. This is

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Speaker 1: the time of year, by the way, typically where we

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Speaker 1: cut back to doing just a Sunday and Thursday show.

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Speaker 1: But we've been on the road so much, and we've

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Speaker 1: been at so many places and had so many sit downs.

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Speaker 1: We've just we haven't really come off our three show

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Speaker 1: per week rotation, and I'm not quite sure when we will.

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Speaker 1: We will eventually, I mean, Collin's got to go to

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Speaker 1: six Flags and lay out by the beach eventually. But

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Speaker 1: we've been putting out a lot of good stuff, really

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Speaker 1: proud of it. We have essentially taken our show out

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Speaker 1: of our studio and added more shows. Like normally we'd

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Speaker 1: just take a three month pause here, and we had

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Speaker 1: that option. Management said, you guys, just want to take

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Speaker 1: three or four month hiatus go ahead, which was a

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Speaker 1: non starter obviously. We actually said no, we'll just do

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Speaker 1: the show on the road, not sacrifice production quality, and

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Speaker 1: we'll do more shows. So we'll be live at Ohio

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Speaker 1: State Tuesday. I will announce probably Wednesday where we're going

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Speaker 1: to be Thursday, but we're going to be in another

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Speaker 1: major program Thursday, and we'll have two more sit downs

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Speaker 1: with major head coaches in college football, and spoiler alert,

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Speaker 1: I think we'll probably be on the road the week

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Speaker 1: after that as well. So no end in sight. Just

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Speaker 1: got to make sure we fly back Friday to play

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Speaker 1: softball because the team is four and zero on the

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Speaker 1: young season and it feels good. Job's not finished. Thank

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Speaker 1: you guys so much. For a producer caller, well, actually

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Speaker 1: tonight direct Colin's always rerect Gon, for producer Belchie in

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Speaker 1: the interim, and for Bradley the associate and everyone else here,

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Speaker 1: I'm Josh Baate. Take care. We'll see you Tuesday night.

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