1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. 2 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 2: What is up, Draight Fire play It's me Jason MacIntyre, 3 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 2: straight O Yer for Thursday, January the twenty second, And 4 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 2: at the risk of starting the pod two days in 5 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 2: a row with a story about Lebron James, we get 6 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: a bombshell report. I guess we could call it a bombshell. 7 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 2: To me, it wasn't totally a bombshell. But here's the headline, 8 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 2: how Bus family in fighting drove the ten billion dollars 9 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: sale of the Lakers, Right, So that's an interesting headline, right, 10 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 2: the Bus Family Lakers. They had like this cool artsy 11 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 2: image of all the Bus brothers and Jeanie Bus at 12 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: the middle of it. There's only two players pictured, Kobe 13 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: and Lebron, and they're kind of smaller. And so if 14 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: you just read the headline saw the picture, you're like, 15 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: oh wow, it's about the US family, wouldn't you know? 16 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 2: At robb G the only stuff anybody cared about in 17 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: this article was Lebron James. And maybe it is piggybacking 18 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: what happened with the All Star voting, but I'm just 19 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: telling you this. The vibes are clearly shifting on Lebron. Everybody, 20 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 2: it's open season on Lebron James. He's not the best 21 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 2: player in the league anymore. He's not the best player 22 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: on his team. We've never seen that before for Lebron, 23 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 2: never in his career. I mean, hell, this guy is 24 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 2: all playing an all NBA level for twenty years, and 25 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,839 Speaker 2: so now that he's not the best player in the league, 26 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: not the best player on his team, not one of 27 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: the best five players in his conference, it's open season 28 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: on Lebron. And it's my vibe off this article. And 29 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: I have a couple takes. I'll save my hot well 30 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: now I'll fire my hottest one in a second. But 31 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: it seemed pretty clear to me that there are some 32 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: scores were settled here, right, A lot of white listen. 33 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: Jeanie Buss as well respected, but there's a lot of whining. Okay, Lebron. 34 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 2: And this is not from Genie Bus, but the perception 35 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 2: is it's from her camp. If you well, you know Lebron, 36 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: he came to the Lakers and won a title, and 37 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: it was somehow all about him and that he rescued us. Well, 38 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 2: I don't know, Genie, what do you mean he didn't 39 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: rescue you guys, I'll just remind everybody what the Lakers 40 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: were before Lebron showed up. So they lose that first 41 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: round series to the Spurs in twenty thirteen, a sweep, 42 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 2: and in twenty fourteen they won twenty seven games, then 43 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: twenty one games, then seventeen, then twenty six, then thirty 44 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 2: five five straight years no playoffs, the worst stretch in 45 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: the history of the franchise. The Lakers were irrelevant other 46 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 2: than Kobe Bryant, you know, doing some things, and you 47 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: know the Kobe Bryant victory tor he scored sixty blah 48 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: blah blah RP. Kobe Lebron shows up. All those guys 49 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 2: they were picking at the top of the draft when 50 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 2: they were in the wilderness, struggling, the brandon ingram, Lonzo Ball, 51 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 2: D'Angelo Russell. I mean, I'd have to look hard, rob, 52 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: but I'm gonna go ahead and guess under one and 53 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 2: a half career All Star games for those guys combined. Anyways, 54 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:20,399 Speaker 2: Lebron comes, and yes, Genie Lebron rescued the Lakers franchise, 55 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: dragged that carcass out of the wilderness, and within two 56 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 2: years Wanner title. Obviously, they traded for Anthony Davis, who's 57 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: Lebron's guy, who was a clutch client. Right, So yeah, 58 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: Lebron obviously saved the Lakers. I don't think that's an 59 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: inarguable fact. You can't act like, oh, Rob po Linka 60 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: pushed it. Lebron's history had been wherever he goes, he 61 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: gets his guys and they win championships. That's why he's 62 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 2: the goat in my eyes. Anywhere he goes, gets his 63 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: guys wins championships. So then the other big criticism from 64 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: Genie was, well, he never really admitted that the Russell 65 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: Westbrook thing was his fault and it was a total disaster. 66 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 2: He was kind of like, I want Russ and then 67 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: it messes up. Not my mess, that's not on me. 68 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 2: What do you expect him to do? Everybody with a 69 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: brain following the league knows that, yes, Lebron pushed for 70 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 2: Russell Westbro. You don't need to be an insider. Lebron 71 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: wanted Russell Westbrook. It was a disaster. They move off 72 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 2: a Russ and Lebron tries to avoid criticism. That's the 73 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 2: playbook of any superstar in any league. We know that 74 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 2: it was not a great call. By Lebron. You don't 75 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 2: think he's whipped on free agents getting them to Miami 76 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: or Cleveland the second tour of duty, like, of course 77 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: he has he makes, everybody makes mistakes, but to act 78 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 2: like he should have come clean, like I don't know 79 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: what that means. Do you expect him to hold the 80 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 2: press conference? Yes, I pushed us to go for Russell 81 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 2: West like that's not happening. And then the final one, 82 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 2: it's kind of dumb. Well, Lebron, you know we drafted 83 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 2: his son, Bronni, and there wasn't a lot of thanks, 84 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 2: what do you want groveling from the guy? And so Rob, 85 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: none of this totally makes sense to me, and I 86 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: didn't find a lot of new stuff when it came 87 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 2: to Lebron. But where I'm gonna go with my hot 88 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 2: take is, obviously the Bus family was connected to the story. 89 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 2: Obviously some scores are being settled. I do wonder Rob 90 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 2: is new management somehow connected to this story, and why 91 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 2: would that be? Because the ripping of Lebron seems a 92 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: little weird in regard to the Bus family drama that 93 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: which is the headline. And I wonder if new ownership 94 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 2: with the Lakers somehow was. I don't know if I 95 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 2: won't go complicit, but fine with this getting out there 96 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: because it will soften the blow this offseason when they 97 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 2: move off of Lebron James, because Rob, I do believe 98 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 2: this is his final what five months, however far they 99 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 2: go on the place us with the Lakers. Unless he's 100 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 2: willing to take a minimum not happening. I'm not expected. 101 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 2: I would not ask him to. But financially, they need 102 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: to build a contender and you can't do that paying 103 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 2: Lebron and Luca all the money Luca's getting all the money, 104 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: Reeves is gonna get paid, and they're gonna move off Lebron. 105 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 2: So his story does not come off looking great for Lebron. 106 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 2: Now you and I are in the weeds on this rub. 107 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 2: We follow this stuff closely. We know a lot of this. 108 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: But now a national audience has an opportunity to take 109 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 2: down a peg an all time great. And I will 110 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 2: remind people I was in DC at the time Michael 111 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: Jordan came back and was with the Washington Wizards. Now 112 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: nobody dare take shots at Michael Jordan when he was 113 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 2: in Chicago. When you're on top, ain't nobody's coming for 114 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 2: you right, you win an MVPs, you went in titles competing. 115 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 2: Nobody's coming for you. With the Wizards as soon as 116 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 2: they were not good, there was a journalist I believe 117 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 2: his name is Michael Lahey, and they basically the Washington 118 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 2: Post tasked him to basically follow around Michael Jordan, be 119 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 2: at all everything you can be at, get whatever reporter 120 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 2: you can't. And it was a savage hit on Michael Jordan, 121 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 2: who was a disaster in the front office with the Wizards. 122 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: He was horrible to the young players, specifically Kuwame Brown. 123 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 2: It was a brutal takedown of Michael Jordan and he 124 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 2: couldn't do a damn thing. And then the guy turned 125 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: it into a book, which I have. I'm pretty sure 126 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: it's called Nothing Damn It? 127 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: Is it? 128 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 2: Nothing? Last Forever? No? Let me Michael Jordan, Michael, I'm 129 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 2: pretty sure the guy's name is Michael Lahey. Yeah, what 130 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 2: nothing else matters? Michael Lahy. It was an unbelievable book. 131 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,679 Speaker 2: I highly recommend it. Get it on an audible, listen 132 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: to it on your car ride to work. When when 133 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 2: nothing else matters about Michael Jordan And basically it's open 134 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: season on these superstars at the end of their career 135 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 2: because they can't do anything. They can't love Lebron can 136 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 2: fight back. Now, what's he gonna do? His dopey rich 137 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: Paul Buddy is on a podcast stay in all this nonsense, 138 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 2: and he's got to take arrows for that guy, and 139 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 2: now he's got to do handle this. I don't know, Rob, 140 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: it feels like and I don't love this, but I 141 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 2: guess it's the reality once you're near the end, that 142 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 2: you can't do anything to stop stop them from coming 143 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 2: after you. 144 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, And to your point, this is a lot of no. 145 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 3: Everything that was reported at espnp's by Backer homes are 146 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 3: things that we had already heard through various channels, right, 147 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 3: whether it was friend of the show Yovan Boja, whether 148 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 3: it was Dan McManamon, whether it's one of the Kaminiski guys, 149 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 3: Like we have heard variations of this exact story for 150 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:33,719 Speaker 3: about a year and a half now, Like, none of 151 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 3: this is really new. What I did find fascinating and 152 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 3: I want to pick your brain about, is this story 153 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 3: was hyped up as kind of like a succession Game 154 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 3: of Thrones expose on the Genie Bus situation with the 155 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 3: Lakers and what ultimately led to her selling the majority 156 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 3: stake of the team to the Dodgers group or Mark 157 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 3: Malter and his group. And what I found fascinating about 158 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 3: is that Baxter Homes did great reporting and he wrote 159 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 3: like ten thousand words on this whole thing. Yeah, he 160 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 3: got quotes on the record, off the record at details 161 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 3: I had never heard, you know, one of them about 162 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 3: Genie Buss, her best friend Linda Rambis getting a twenty 163 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 3: four million dollar bonus as part of the sale and 164 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 3: Kurt Rambas getting an eight million dollar bonus, like well, why, well, 165 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 3: we don't know, but it was an honor of Kobe. 166 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 3: The twenty four and eight were not like like one thing, 167 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 3: you know, things that don't make a lot of sense, 168 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 3: but it was a cool little detail. But what I 169 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 3: found fascinating I wanted to get your opinion about it 170 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 3: is he wrote ten thousand words explaining in great detail 171 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 3: what went sidele Is for the family and how things 172 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 3: you know, ultimately came apart for them internally. And yet 173 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 3: the big takeaway, the headline the story from this ten 174 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 3: thousand word essay is three paragraphs about Lebron James and 175 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 3: Genie Buss being fed up with him and so on 176 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 3: and so forth. 177 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 2: Do you think, just in. 178 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 3: Your opinion, that this whole thing was done under the 179 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 3: guise of, yes, this is a real report, this is 180 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 3: a real investigative piece that we're doing on the sale 181 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 3: of the Lakers. But the way this is really gonna 182 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 3: cut through and why we're planning on dropping it the 183 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 3: day after a road game in Denver, which I'm assuming 184 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 3: that at the time that they had this ready to go, 185 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 3: Jolkis was probably healthy, you know what I mean, And 186 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 3: the expectation was the Lakers lose in Denver. The next 187 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 3: day here comes this piece. Do you think there's anything 188 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 3: the farious like that going on? 189 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: Oh, that's dirty? The timing, Like I guess, that's a 190 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 2: great question. I don't know. I mean, they could they 191 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 2: have waited for Maximum Impact All Star weekend, but that 192 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 2: would have been brutal. You're right, there wasn't a ton 193 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 2: about Lebron. But that's what's going to resonate because it's Lebron. 194 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: Could the story would we be talking about it to 195 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 2: lead the pod if it were Lebron stuff wasn't in there? 196 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 2: Probably not? Hell no, Why do you think they have 197 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 2: it out for Lebron? The family or is that too 198 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 2: strong to have it out. 199 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 3: No, I think that, you know, even in just those 200 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 3: little three paragraphs and everything we've heard in the year 201 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 3: and a half leading up to this, I think it 202 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 3: has become very clear. And we talked about it yesterday's 203 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 3: podcast that the Lakers organization, the Lakers fan base, the 204 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 3: Lakers media partners are kind of over the Lebron James experience. Yeah, 205 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 3: because like Lebron, as great as he is, and he 206 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 3: is one of the all time greats. If he's not 207 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 3: number one, he's number two or three, Like he's in 208 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 3: the upper upper upper tier of NBA players all time. 209 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 3: Having said that, there's a lot of baggage that comes 210 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 3: along with him too, because you are not just getting 211 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 3: a great player, you are getting a guy who wants 212 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 3: to coach the team, who wants to be the general manager, 213 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 3: who wants to absolve himself when things go bad, and 214 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 3: wants all the credit when things go good, and that 215 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 3: can make things very uncomfortable for a lot of people. 216 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 3: I know this is probably about that example, but David Griffin, 217 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 3: former executive of the Cleveland Cavaliers. Griff flamed out famously 218 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 3: in New Orleans, right, So we kind of know that, 219 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 3: but before that, it was very successful in Cleveland, and 220 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 3: after Lebron left and after he had moved on to 221 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 3: greener pastures, he thought in New Orleans. He gave an 222 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 3: on the record comment I believe the Sports Illustrated where 223 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 3: he was saying that he was looking forward to building 224 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 3: organically away from Lebron James, because when you're in the 225 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 3: Lebron business, everything is about him. It's about his timeline, 226 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 3: it's about his wants and needs. What's the best way 227 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 3: to make Lebron happy, because that's going to make our 228 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 3: team better. And even a guy like him who won 229 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 3: a championship in Cleveland, which means a hell of a 230 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,479 Speaker 3: lot more than people I think sports fans can really appreciate. 231 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 3: Even he was like, you know what, I'm good like 232 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 3: I'd rather go to New Orleans, where no one even 233 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 3: cares about basketball, and see what happens. 234 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 235 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 236 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 237 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 1: listen live. 238 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 2: I wonder if a lot of people regret joining the 239 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 2: Lebron train, and and that's an open ended question, but 240 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 2: My answer would be, I don't think so. Some of 241 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 2: those guys are gonna eat forever because of Lebron. You know, 242 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 2: you think Mario Chalmers is getting on a podcast and 243 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: saying stuff and having a life after the NBA if 244 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 2: not for being on the Lebron James Teamsmmy Shumpert, Emon Shumpert. 245 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 2: I mean, we talk about Eric Spolstel like he's one 246 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 2: of the best coaches in the league. I'm just curious, Rob, right, 247 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 2: what did he win without Lebron? Now, he got to 248 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 2: the finals with Jimmy Butler, But like, I don't I mean, 249 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 2: is he an amazing coach if we remove the but 250 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 2: the heatles one of the most powerful teams that you 251 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 2: know this this century. Like, I don't know. I like Spolstrom. 252 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 2: I'm not diminishing, but wherever Lebron goes, they win. I mean, 253 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 2: I don't know. Was Darvin Ham Is he still in 254 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 2: the league. What's that guy up to? 255 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 3: I think he's assistant with the Bucks. 256 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 2: Now, he was the head coach when the Lakers won 257 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 2: in the Bubble, right. 258 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 3: No, that was Frank Vogel. 259 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 2: Oh, Frank, your neighbor. Frank Vogel got a job after 260 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 2: that just by getting fired. I think he's like an 261 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 2: assistant somewhere. Maybe that's right. Darvin Ham was a train wreck. 262 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 3: Oh gosh, Ham won the n season tournaments. What are 263 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 3: you talking? Right? 264 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 2: You know, but I don't know if he'll got a 265 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 2: head coaching job again. Essentially, you know, you pay a tax, 266 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 2: a Lebron tax of getting in. But you know what, 267 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 2: you kind of did the same thing with Michael Jordan. 268 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,239 Speaker 2: He was gonna rate you and treat you like garbage, 269 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 2: and afterwards you're gonna be like Dennis Rodman. I mean, 270 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 2: Dennis Rodman was a really good rebounder with the Spurs. 271 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 2: When did his career take off? Oh that's right, playing 272 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 2: with Michael Jordan, that's right, Yes, yes, I mean John Paxson, 273 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 2: Steve there's so many guys you play with a superstar 274 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 2: legend and gonna eat forever. So I mean, I think 275 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 2: it's kind of part of the deal. And that's why 276 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 2: some of this whining about Lebron comes off as sour grapes. 277 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 2: I am curious, though, do you see a world where 278 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 2: he's back in the league next year. 279 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 3: I mean, we talked about this yesterday. I think he 280 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 3: could be and if I had to bet. I bet 281 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 3: that he would be because I don't think that's a 282 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 3: that's a million dollar question right there, because I don't. 283 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 3: I don't think Lebron James is one of those guys 284 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 3: who is going to forego a farewell tour, regardless of 285 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 3: what he might have said on a podcast, you know, 286 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 3: a year and a half ago or two years ago. 287 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 3: You know, like I think that he is so hyper 288 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 3: aware of his standing historically, you know, in the past 289 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 3: and even in the future, that this kind of stuff 290 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 3: matters to him. Like the ten point streak mattered to him, 291 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 3: even though he tried to say afterwards it didn't, because 292 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 3: there were enough games that you and I watch every 293 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 3: Laker game where it's like, well, Lebron's clearly hunting these 294 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 3: last six points because he knows he needs it, you know, 295 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 3: in a blowout. 296 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 2: It was losing the streak on a game. Winning is 297 00:15:58,480 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 2: just on a buzzer beater. 298 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 3: That is kind of but it's not like, yeah, it's 299 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 3: not like he didn't try, because he took sixteen shots 300 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 3: that game. It's not like he wasn't trying to get 301 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 3: the ten points. He just couldn't make a basket that night. 302 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 3: Like you know it. Streaks are meant to be broken. 303 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 3: It is what it is. But Lebron, you know, we 304 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 3: talked about he actually the twenty three patch that he 305 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 3: has on his jersey out of nowhere, seemingly like I 306 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 3: think he knows, and I think he wants to be 307 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 3: adored and celebrated on his way out the door, don't 308 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 3: we all, of course, And I don't blame him at all, 309 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 3: And so that's why I have a hard time imagining 310 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 3: him just like, hey, at the upcoming All Star break. 311 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 3: By the way, this is gonna be my last twenty 312 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 3: five games and then playoffs then I'm done. Like, I 313 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 3: don't see him doing that. I think he's gonna want 314 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 3: that full coronation, so to speak, on his way out 315 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 3: the door, and then you know, right off into the sunset. 316 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 2: So I'm looking at the Hoopsype salaries. Okay, Lebron, this 317 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 2: year fifty two point six final year, really eighteen point 318 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 2: two final year. You combined fifty two and eighteen, you're 319 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 2: looking at seventy points eight million dollars. Gabe vincent eleven 320 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,479 Speaker 2: and a half. Add this seventy eighty one. Yeah, look 321 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 2: at the eighty two million coming off the books. Oh, 322 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 2: MAXI Kleeber eleven million. Now you're up to ninety three 323 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 2: million dollars coming off the books. Charston Jackson Hayes three 324 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 2: point four. Now you're up to ninety six. Maybe will 325 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 2: round up ninety seven million dollars in cap space, Rob 326 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,479 Speaker 2: That is a lot of cheddar. Lakers will be in 327 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 2: great shape after the season. Obviously some of it will 328 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 2: go to Reeves, but they're gonna be able to do things. 329 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 2: The real question is do they kind of punt on, Hey, 330 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 2: we're not throwing in the towel this season. Let's let's 331 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 2: make one last ditch effort. We'll pack a Druiy and 332 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 2: Dalton connect and whatever and try to make a deep 333 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 2: playoff run. I don't know, you never know what's gonna happen. 334 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 2: I mean, the Rockets are already fading. Okay, see doesn't 335 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 2: look as bulletproof as they were two months ago. We'll 336 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 2: see about health of guys like Jokich, Kevin Durant. I mean, 337 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: when there's a long way to go. I'm not ruling 338 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 2: anything out for the Lakers. I don't They're clearly not 339 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 2: the favorites or even close to it. But I am 340 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 2: looking at that Bronnie James contract. So he's on for 341 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,239 Speaker 2: one point nine and then two point two and then 342 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 2: a team option. So is there a world where lebron 343 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 2: comes back for one more year with Bronnie at some 344 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 2: kind of major reduced salary I don't even know, and 345 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 2: then they both leave? I mean it, what kind of 346 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 2: sucks for Bronnie if his dad is out of the 347 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 2: league and the Lakers dump him. You know, Yeah, that's 348 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 2: not a great look because I don't think teams are 349 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 2: going to be lining up to get in the Bronnie 350 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 2: James business. No, but he does have a big following online. 351 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 2: Any arena you go to if it's a blowout, people 352 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 2: are cheering and rooting for Bronnie, like because he's big 353 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 2: into the video games. He's got a huge social media like. Honestly, 354 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna guess Ronnie James is probably bigger on Instagram. 355 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 2: Guess his followers on IG rob ooh, I have no idea. 356 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 2: I don't follow two and a half million, seven point 357 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 2: five Oh. 358 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 3: God, that was my first stop about that bybe too hig. 359 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 2: I'm go aheading and guessing that Bronnie James probably has 360 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 2: more IG followers than ninety nine percent of NFL players. Absolutely, 361 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 2: I mean I don't know that it's particularly close. And 362 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 2: so that's what you're dealing with. You're a hugely popular 363 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 2: guy on social who's you know, clearly not a great player. 364 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 2: Is he improving? 365 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? 366 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 2: Sure, I don't know what his ceiling is. Is he 367 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 2: going to be an NBA starter? I would guess no. 368 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 2: But it is weird. We I mean, Rob basically your 369 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 2: whole adulthood, Lebron's been in the league. Right, that's how 370 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 2: young you are. 371 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm thirty seven, man. 372 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is kind of winding down. Is there any 373 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 2: other NBA you wanted to talk before the NFL story? Quickly? 374 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 3: Before you put to the NFL, you've mentioned the Lakers 375 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 3: are gonna have all this cap space, and that's one 376 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 3: thousand percent true. Here's my only problem with the idea 377 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 3: of waiting to the offseason. Have you looked at the 378 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 3: free agent class for twenty twenty six? 379 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 2: Well, Giannis is not in it, but no, I. 380 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 3: Right, Okay, so we were gonna take Lebron off the 381 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 3: board because in this scenario, you're getting rid of Lebron 382 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 3: to get the cap space. Okay, here are the next 383 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 3: best players that could potentially be available, right, James Harden, No, 384 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 3: Trey Young absolutely not. Bradley Beal not even worth answering, 385 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 3: Draymond Green, Oh, dear Zach Levine, that's my guy. But 386 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,479 Speaker 3: like the water drives up really quickly. Like if this 387 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 3: was a year where you already have, like if you 388 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 3: believe Austin Reeves is the great second option and you say, hey, 389 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 3: Luca and Austin is our guys, and we build out 390 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 3: from there, then sure, because then there's a lot of 391 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 3: guys who are in this you know, role player level 392 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 3: where you like a Harrison Barnes could be available, KCP 393 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 3: could be available, like Colin Sexon as a spark plugk 394 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 3: kind of guy. Like there are guys if you want 395 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 3: to fill a role that could be very, very solid. 396 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 3: But if you're looking for like a game changer, a 397 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 3: guy who's gonna take you from a play in to 398 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 3: a playoff or a upper playoff to an inner circle contender, 399 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 3: that's not gonna happen. 400 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: Definitely not, which is where the Yannas discussion gets interesting. 401 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 2: So the Bucks, by the way, we're recording this Wednesday afternoon, 402 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 2: the Bucks are hosting Okay, see, I'll guess the spread 403 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 2: is like twenty and okay, see he's gonna destroy them. 404 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 2: At what point do the Bucks pull the plug on 405 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 2: this year? I've heard varying degrees of well, they're not 406 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 2: going to trade them by the deadline. Reminder, the Bucks 407 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 2: are currently eleventh in the East, behind Mighty Atlanta, Chicago, Miami, 408 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 2: I mean Cleveland. Cleveland is Oh boy was it last year? 409 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 2: Super lucky and Charlotte's actually playing well and gaining ground 410 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 2: on the Bucks. If you're trending toward being a playing 411 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 2: team with Yannis, what are you waiting for? And now 412 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 2: I don't think the Lakers have the amo to do it. 413 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 2: It would probably have to involve Reeves, and I don't 414 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 2: love giving up Reeves. I don't even know if Jannis 415 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 2: and Luca would work, but you know, superstars usually figure 416 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 2: things out out. Does Carl Anthony Towns do anything for you, Rob, 417 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 2: if you can get him on the cheat absolutely? Really yeah, 418 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 2: talking like ruy ruey and A one and I gave 419 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 2: whatever to make the salary you. 420 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 3: Would take he would take like all your all your 421 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 3: expiring salaries. But I mean Carl Anthony Towns. Carl Anthony 422 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 3: Towns is a flawed player of course he is right. 423 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 3: Most most guys outside of like the top six or 424 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 3: seven are deeply flawed one way or another. Even the 425 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 3: best player, Luka Dojic is without question a top five 426 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 3: MB player. He is a flawed player, right. 427 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Kat doesn't play any defense. By the way his 428 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 2: contract he's on the books. Oh, he's only got two 429 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 2: years left, so next year fifty seven and then a 430 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 2: player option for sixty one. He plays no defense. The 431 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 2: Knicks fans are currently booing him off the floor. You 432 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 2: can't play him with Mitchell Robinson. At the same time, 433 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 2: it's one of the other. I mean, he can score, 434 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 2: but he doesn't add. Like, what's the role? And again 435 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 2: I hate to do this. That MAVs team Luca was 436 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 2: on was perfect. Yes, that's that's the blueprint. What role 437 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 2: does he feel PJ Washington? No, because PJ Washington could defend. 438 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 2: I don't know where Cat fits in that role. And 439 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 2: so as a result, he's. 440 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 3: A stretch big who can rebound like that, There is 441 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 3: a lot you could do a hell of a lot 442 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 3: worse than a guy. 443 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 2: Kevin Love alongside Lebron. 444 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 3: Sure, sure, Kevin. Probably Carlo the Towns again, who is 445 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 3: a very below average defender I believe was part of 446 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 3: a top five defense in Minnesota when you had the 447 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 3: right infrastructure around him. That was including Mike Connolly who's 448 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 3: six foot, one hundred and forty pounds. You know at 449 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 3: the point of attack, like, you can build a roster 450 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 3: to hide a lot of these guys deficiencies. You just 451 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 3: got to do a good job of hitting on the 452 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 3: guys to hide stuff. Like if you can get good 453 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 3: wing defenders to hide cat, then you should be just fine. 454 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 3: And that's the weird thing that's happening in New York 455 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 3: is you would think with Josh Hart, Ojananobi and mcal 456 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 3: Bridges on the wings that they would be able to 457 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 3: mask a lot of his deficiencies. The problem is they're 458 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 3: also trying to mask Jalen Brentson's deficiencies, and it seems 459 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 3: like having the middle of your defense be a sieve 460 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 3: is becoming too much to overcome there for the Knicks, 461 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 3: now they're getting booed out of their own building. 462 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 463 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports radio 464 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 465 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 1: listen live. 466 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 2: I'm thinking it's maybe just a January malaise for the Knicks, 467 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 2: and you know, they win the NBA Cup, they start 468 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 2: feeling themselves all we got winning the chip, and then 469 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 2: they go in the tank. I don't know. I'm of 470 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 2: the belief that the Knicks are going to be fine. 471 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: I do. 472 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 2: I do want to ask you though, Okay, so if not, Cat, 473 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 2: what are you doing for the Like what's a move 474 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,719 Speaker 2: here that the Lakers could do? 475 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think there's a star player they 476 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 3: could realistically get that's going to change their fortunes for 477 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 3: this season, like outside of Giannis, which I just don't 478 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 3: think that the they have enough to get him if 479 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 3: they've really got on the market, Like, there are other 480 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 3: teams who can make much better offers for you, honest. 481 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 3: If you could find a way to coax you know, 482 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 3: the Pelicans into giving you Herb Jones, if you could 483 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 3: find a way to coax the Brooklyn Nets into giving 484 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 3: you like Claxton and Porter, you know, something like that 485 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 3: where it only costs you the expiring deals and like that. 486 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 3: Now you're kind of punting on free agency in those scenarios. 487 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 3: But you have guys that theoretically would at least fit 488 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 3: a role around Lukadac, and that should be your goal 489 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 3: moving forward. 490 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 2: So like Jake la Ravia was a good cheap signing 491 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 2: that it is a good fit. Now the problem is 492 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 2: he's not. I don't think he's a starter ideally, but 493 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 2: I think we've you've got to pretty much look towards 494 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 2: these role players that fit a role, like you said, 495 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 2: but he needs another superstar to take a burden off, 496 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 2: like member Kyrie. That was a huge help for him. 497 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 2: When you can have two guys, you can go on 498 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,120 Speaker 2: one v one and you can kind of stagger their minutes. 499 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 3: But I thought you had said a few weeks ago 500 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 3: before he got hurt, that you thought Austin Reeves could 501 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 3: play that level. You know, a twenty six year old 502 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 3: Austin Reeves can can mimic a thirty one year old 503 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 3: Kyrie Irving. 504 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 2: Yeah no, no, I like I think Austin Reeves could 505 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 2: be that guy. Right, So you've got Austin and Luca 506 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 2: and then they then you just got to fill things 507 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 2: out around And is there gonna be a chair for Lebron? 508 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 2: Probably I don't. I don't think there's gonna be And 509 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 2: that just kind of stinks. Man, because I do like 510 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 2: Lebron a lot. But you know what, you move on. 511 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 2: You just adapt and move on. Like you know in life, 512 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 2: did you ever grow up like and then you have 513 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,479 Speaker 2: one of your good friends who was like super tight 514 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 2: wod you just move away? I think it'll be similar 515 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 2: to that. Like Lebron, I love watching him, but he's 516 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 2: just gonna be gone. And you know what, the Lakers 517 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 2: still have Luca, so they're still very watchable. Yeah. I mean, 518 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 2: it's gonna stick when he's done. But that's why I 519 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 2: really try to enjoy all these Lebron seasons. Dude, watching 520 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 2: him dunk against Denver the other night, m hm, I mean, dude, 521 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 2: I still got it. He's no bum, that's for sure. 522 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 2: Let me quickly ask you. We'll go to the NFL 523 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,959 Speaker 2: real quick. Rob So Mike McDaniel lands with the Charges 524 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 2: as the offensive coordinator. Huge, huge win for the Chargers. 525 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel, who I again when things were clicking in Miami, 526 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 2: he had one of the best offenses in the league. 527 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 2: Go YouTube the game where they hung seventy on Sean 528 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 2: Payton's Broncos. Okay, now you get Justin Herbert, massive upgraded 529 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 2: quarterback and Oh, by the way, you get stability. That's 530 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 2: the keyword here in Jim Harble. Jim Harbaugh's ain't going nowhere. 531 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 2: Job security for at least five years a minimum, maybe longer. 532 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,239 Speaker 2: I don't know, but he's not going anywhere. So it's 533 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 2: a safe one for McDaniel. But McDaniel reportedly turned down 534 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 2: or was in talks with Tampa Bay. Now, what's the 535 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 2: problem there is that Todd Bowles is kind of on 536 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 2: the hot seat after missing the playoffs. They gutted his staff. 537 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 2: If they, you know, don't win the playoffs or don't 538 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 2: get to the playoffs, Todd Bowles have probably gone, and 539 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 2: you're your OC is gonna get fired too. Todd Bowle, 540 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 2: not Todd Bowles. Mike McDaniels also and talks with Philadelphia. 541 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 2: They just won the Super Bowl. But you know who 542 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 2: else is in the hot seat, Nick Sirianni. So Mike 543 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 2: McDaniel knew shit, man, I go to Philly. We do 544 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 2: have a lot of pieces in place. We'll see what 545 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 2: happens with AJ Brown, maybe Lane Johnson. Maybe those guys 546 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 2: are not there next year. I don't know. But if 547 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 2: Sirianna gets dusted, oh damn, you're out of a job too. 548 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 2: So I'm not totally surprised he took the Chargers gig, 549 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 2: but it leaves the Eagles rob up the creek. I mean, 550 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,479 Speaker 2: dab All. They might land Dable, but you know, Dabell 551 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 2: probably wants the Buffalo job head coaching job. And so 552 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 2: now you're like, oh, you didn't get uh McDaniel, you 553 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 2: didn't get da Bill. And you know, pretty quickly it's 554 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 2: becoming evident that like some of the best ocs won 555 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 2: head coaching jobs, we're going to stay put. And Philadelphia 556 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 2: is becoming like a little toxic rob They won the 557 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 2: Super Bowl eleven months ago, and now nobody wants to 558 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 2: go there and coach a Super Bowl MVP. I'm a 559 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 2: little surprised by that, are you. 560 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 3: I'm not surprised, but I do think it is the 561 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 3: most fascinating story of the week, you know, outside of 562 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 3: the NBA stuff, which we've been covered ball to wall 563 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 3: for the last two days. The idea that a roster 564 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 3: featuring a Super Bowl MVP quarterback, one of the greatest 565 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 3: running backs of this generation, and two Pro Bowl slash 566 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 3: All Pro caliber wide receivers is not enough to entice 567 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 3: the best offensive mines in the league to want to 568 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 3: come here and work with them, especially when you consider 569 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 3: that multiple offensive coordinators or coordinators from this Sirianni Tree 570 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 3: landed head coaching kigs Gannon in Arizona, Stike in got One, 571 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 3: and then of course Kellum Moore is the head coach 572 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 3: now in New Orleans. So you know that if you 573 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 3: perform well with this group, because Sirianni is a CEO 574 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 3: coach does not call plays one way or the other, 575 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 3: you can get a hell of a lot of credit 576 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 3: and springboard to the next job. The next you know, 577 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 3: Buffalo Bill's gig, whatever the Ravens, whatever opens up, you 578 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 3: could be the next in line for that kind of 579 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 3: a job. And the fact that Mike McDaniel would rather 580 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 3: go and be the OC for Justin Herbert that Brian 581 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 3: Day ball if he doesn't reportedly get the Bills gig 582 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 3: would rather be the OC for the Titans and work 583 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 3: with cam Ward kind of speaks volumes to me. It 584 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 3: says to me that despite that weaponry and that offensive 585 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 3: line and all that talent, all those stars not offense 586 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 3: in Philadelphia. There's something about Jalen Hurts specifically, that these 587 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 3: guys are not interested in and goes back to a 588 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 3: report back in November, a longtime Eagles reporter Derek Gunn 589 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 3: was saying that you know, they watch on film, they 590 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 3: talk in the in the meetings and practice of what 591 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 3: they want to do offensively, and Jalen Hurts when it 592 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 3: comes down in game time just does not want to 593 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 3: do it because it doesn't vibe with what he wants 594 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 3: to He wants to limit the turnovers, he doesn't want 595 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 3: to take a lot of risks. He's going to protect 596 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 3: the ball at all costs. He's not going to even 597 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 3: attempt to pass over the middle unless it's wide open, 598 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 3: and then you have In December, ESPN's Jeremy Fowler says, 599 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 3: people around the league are expecting that the Eagles are 600 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,479 Speaker 3: going to look to draft Jalen Hurts his replacement early 601 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 3: in the twenty twenty six draft, the same way they 602 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 3: did to Carson Wentz. Again, I could see whether that's 603 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 3: true or not. What I think what it all comes 604 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 3: down to is, I think people around the league are 605 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 3: hipped to Jalen Hurts his game, what he can and 606 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 3: cannot do, and I think they believe that despite all 607 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 3: the talent around him, they won't be able to really 608 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 3: maximize and show off their own capabilities and springboard to 609 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 3: the next gig with him at quarterback. 610 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird because I am the guy who after 611 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 2: he was the super Bowl MVP, and that was two 612 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 2: really good appearances in the super Bowl. He was awesome. Yeah, 613 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 2: I said he was. I said he was the fifth 614 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 2: guy Burrow, Alan Mahomes, Jackson, and then I had Hurts 615 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 2: fifth because fifth was open for a while. People wanted 616 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 2: to say Jade Daniels. Some people want to put Herbert. 617 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 2: I think you need to have postseason success to get 618 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 2: in that group. Ha ha ha ha. Lamar doesn't have 619 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 2: any ha ha. Josh Allen doesn't. They have wins and 620 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 2: they have MVPs. Come on, but it's clear something went 621 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 2: down with Hurts. I hope it's not an ugly story 622 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 2: with with AAJ Brown and they just had beef and 623 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 2: couldn't get over it. But it's not like we haven't 624 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 2: seen that before. Best bet for where AJ Brown lands 625 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 2: next year? Rob g Spag and Philly Oh. They don't 626 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 2: afford to trade him, Like have you seen the the 627 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 2: cat pay they'd have to take to get rid of him. 628 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 2: It's absurd, Like this is why Howie Roaseman makes the 629 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 2: big bucks does he go back to New England with Rabel? 630 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 2: That could be in play if you have a rookie 631 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 2: quarterback Buffalo could I mean Buffalo's desperate for receivers, if 632 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 2: you have a rookie quarterback and you can afford to 633 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 2: splurge on a wide receiver. Cam Ward in Tennessee, is 634 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 2: that a thing like that? Their receiving crew was very weak. 635 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 2: Fernando Mendoza in Vegas, A. 636 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 3: Brown would end up Fernando Mendoza. 637 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 2: I'm so jealous that you've got Mendoza. 638 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 3: Wen't got him yet? 639 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 2: What do you mean you don't? You're saying, are you 640 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 2: buying this rumor? This whole Lamar Jackson. 641 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 3: That that was a fun rumor. We talked about it 642 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 3: on the radio show yesterday. I mean, when when the 643 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 3: ESPN Jeremy Fowler talks to anonymous execs and multiple say 644 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 3: in their bold prediction, is Lamar getting traded for the 645 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 3: numb one overall pick? You know, my ears kind of 646 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 3: per a cup a little bit. 647 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 2: Who would you rather have Lamar or Mendoza? 648 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 3: Lamar ooh? 649 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 2: Interesting? 650 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 3: Now, granted, even if they got Lamar, their cap is 651 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 3: like ten wins, and they're flaming out of the first 652 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 3: round every year because they would have no talent around 653 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 3: him to speak of, because they'd have to give him 654 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 3: all the money. Yeah, that's the plants and trade all 655 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,719 Speaker 3: the picks. But my team has been so bad for 656 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 3: twenty years. I just want to wait a minute. 657 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 2: You've been to the playoffs more recently than the Jets. 658 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 2: It's fifteen for the Jets. 659 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 3: We went the year Derek carrs leg snapped, Oh, that 660 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 3: was the last time we went to the point. 661 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 2: Is Connor cooked the quarterback who started for him? 662 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 3: I don't think so. It was somebody else, but it 663 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 3: was bad though it was bad. 664 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 2: Hopefully Jared Siddam will show up. 665 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 3: Interesting. 666 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 2: By the way, I got some interesting numbers on Denver 667 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 2: defense versus Drake May. I'm trying to think of a 668 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 2: way to bet Denver getting points at home, but it's 669 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 2: a real tough one. Rob. I don't know. We're still 670 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 2: working on it. We'll definitely have something tomorrow. See that