WEBVTT - Draft Show: Looking For An Edge 0:00:03.040 --> 0:00:05.560 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:13.600 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. This is the 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:18.759 Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room for 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:22.880 insider news and trapped analysis from deep within the confines 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:29.600 of Cowboys headquarters at the Star in Frisco. And now 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:35.960 your hosts Brian brought us, Jeff Kavanaugh, Kyle Yeomans, and 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:43.760 David Hellman. It's Thursday, March the tenth. That means it 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:46.520 is once again time for another episode of the Draft Show. Hello, 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:49.320 I am David Hellman, like the Big Voice guy said, 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:53.160 I'm joined by Brian brought us, Jeff Kavanaugh, Kyle Yeoman's 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:55.960 coming in hot. Hey Kyle, how are you doing? Hey guys, 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:59.600 how's it going? Forty nine days? Yeah, and I know 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:04.000 that Kyle's usually our draft counter guy, but Adam Schefter 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:07.280 tweeted yesterday that at fifty day that's why. That's the 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:09.320 only reason why I knew that just give me chills, 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:11.280 kind of like how I said when it was March 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:13.679 at the Combine and Dane was sitting right there and 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:16.000 he's like, I just had a chill go down my spine. 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:19.280 That's what That's what forty nine days just to set 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:22.200 sneaking up on you are determined to say that name 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:25.520 within the first minute of every show, and I come 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:27.640 here for it. I'll be honest, I kind of hate it, 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:30.320 but at this point we're going to commit to the bit. Yeah, 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:32.800 I want to talk to you. I want to talk 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:34.920 about a few things, but I couldn't help but laugh. 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:38.720 So we were having a right after the show on Tuesday, 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:41.399 we had a content meeting about just everything that's going 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:43.280 to happen over the next month and a half. We 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:46.119 get in trouble, No, not at all yet. The Draft 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:48.000 show is the best thing going on this platform. Are 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:51.760 you kidding? No? We were just all right. We were 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:53.559 talking about everything we want to do in the build 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:56.000 up to the draft, and me and Kyle are sitting 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:57.960 here like, all right, there's some good pro days. We 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:00.800 could go to. What's nearby? What are some schools that 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:03.520 have a lot of good players, And we both kind 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:07.160 of settled on Oklahoma and Kyle pulls up, he pulls 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:09.160 up like the website where all these dates are listed, 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:11.880 and we're like, oh, it's tomorrow. Yeah, oh yeah, it 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:15.120 already happened. Yeah it happened Wednesday. Arkansas. Has happened yesterday, 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:17.000 Nick Benito, let's see how he did it pro day. 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:20.800 I'm absolutely I'm flabbergasted, Brian, and I think I know 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:23.160 your answer, but like, what is going on? We just 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:26.320 got done with the Combine on Sunday afternoon, and like 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:29.880 two pretty big programs have already had their pro day. 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:33.280 Treylan Burke's decided to stand on his combine forty time, 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:36.520 and at first I was like, well, that's kind of whimpy, 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:39.000 and then I realized his pro day was three days later, 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:41.519 Like what's the point? How much better can you conceivably get? 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:45.320 Asked the Wisconsin guys, did you see what happened at 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:47.400 their pro day? I have no clue. I want to 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:50.320 know if they were running downhill, if the three cone 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:53.720 was a two cone, they all get like, mysteriously way better. 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:58.520 So their linebacker, Leo' channel he if you take the agilities, 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:01.040 he did it pro day with forty in the jumps 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:03.840 that he did at the Combine, Leo'shanelle is the most 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:07.440 athletic prospect in the history of linebacker. He ran a 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:10.200 three nine four short shuttle, so he just ran Mica 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:13.959 Parsons out of the wat He ran a six nine 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:17.040 three cone like he and I'm just like, okay, I'm 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:19.639 gonna wait until like Dane or Brian or somebody gets 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:22.120 numbers from teams. Yeah, because these I feel like these 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:24.160 are the numbers that Wisconsin was putting out, like, hey, 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:26.280 our linebacker coach had him at three nine. I'll tell 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:29.040 you what, there's nothing better than self promotion there. Well, yeah, 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:31.760 there's nothing better, no, you know. And yeah, that's we'll 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:34.200 get those those sheets and stuff and kind of get 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:36.160 them taken care of. Is this is this just all 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:39.040 about scheduling? Is that why we're doing this? Well, I 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:40.560 think a lot of it has to do that. A 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:42.480 lot of these players feel like that they're in the 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:45.000 best shape there are right now, you know, and and 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:46.400 they want to go ahead, and they don't want to 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:49.160 wait another two or three weeks to have a pro day, 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:52.400 and so because they're worried about Okay, they went through 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:55.040 all that at the combine, but they're feeling like, you know, hey, 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:57.320 I'm ready to go. If I had to train or 0:03:57.360 --> 0:03:59.200 train anymore, I don't know if I could do it, 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:01.000 you know, might as well done. Get it out of 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:03.200 the way. There's a lot of these teams though, that 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:06.200 are working on the schedules of NFL teams because you 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:08.160 don't want to se There was a run there where 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:11.600 all these quarterbacks were getting going on the same day, 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:15.760 and the pro the teams were like, listen, no, please 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:18.279 help us. You know, work work with each other here, 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:21.279 you know, and schedule these days apart. But I think 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:23.040 you have a lot of guys that are like, listen, 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:25.280 I'm ready to work out right now. I might have 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:27.039 had a bad combine. Maybe you want to get that 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:29.279 taste out of your mouth. If you had a bad combine, 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:30.960 did you kind of feel like that you can go 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:33.040 and kind of improve on some things, you know, when 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:36.960 you're in your own backyard. See I go ahead. There's 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:39.479 not a ton of a big time pro days coming 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:42.880 up over the next couple of days. There's Indiana, Texas, Tulsa, 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:47.599 Texas State next week Monday, that Leicester, Michigan has a 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:50.479 pro Day at some point. I love that Texas is 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:52.640 not a big time in pro DA mark this year. 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:55.440 I know when the combine, when the combine was earlier, 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:58.440 March twelfth used to be the big day, like everybody 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:00.880 that was like the day that like when the combine 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:02.719 was over. You waited a couple of weeks, and then boom, 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:05.320 March twelfth was the day that everybody kind of started 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:09.120 the combine. Is that a day set in stone? Normally 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:11.880 it just was funny. It's funny how like the league year, 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:13.920 you know when certain things are going to happen or 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:16.680 certain things are going to start, and it just always 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:20.080 seemed like that the biggest pro days were all of 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:22.400 them were on March twelfth, and then you worked from there. 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:25.560 In my head, and I think of it in the 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:28.440 opposite of like Treilon Burkes is a great example, like 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:31.880 maybe not a terrible forty. I think we had two 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:33.880 of them, right, did you go? You go four five 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:36.080 five four five? Oh yeah, okay, that makes if you 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:38.000 split his times, it's like a four or five two, 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:40.120 which again like not a terrible forty. But no, just 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:43.640 I'm just I'm bringing him up because, like I said, like, 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:46.920 how much work can you really do between like Saturday? 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:49.040 Just want to get it done. So I look at 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:50.880 it the opposite way where it's like maybe I want 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:54.040 three weeks to work on whatever. I was disappointed stress, 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:56.120 I think distress. I think these kids just want to 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:58.040 get a lot of this done. I think the combine 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:00.880 is super stressful now because they at this thing on TV. 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:04.000 You know. The one thing about it is the players 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:06.320 do have the ability with their phones and stuff to 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:09.120 now know their times. There used to be a time 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:12.640 where these guys would run forties, and even the guys 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:16.279 down on the other end, the timers, the hand timers 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:18.359 wouldn't tell them what their time was. You know, they 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:21.280 always kind of wondering. You know, nobody had an idea 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:24.440 of what they just ran. So now they know. And 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:26.920 that's why you see a guy like with Jordan Davis, 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:30.040 like he runs one one forty, you know, he runs 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:31.880 it for seven eight or four eight one wherever you 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:34.239 want to call the time, and he's like and someone 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:35.919 calls him on his phone or text him like, bro, 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:40.040 don't run again. Stop the NFL, and the NFL's Twitter 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:43.560 account is eating all yeah, exactly, you now know exactly 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:45.960 what how your workout win. And I think there's I 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:49.839 think the stress level for these players is so much 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:52.440 that they just want to get it over with and 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:54.520 then be able to move on. If you know, if 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:56.839 position coaches want to go roll in there and work 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:59.039 them out, that's one of the reasons the advantages are 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:01.800 working at the combine that if you do have a 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:05.599 good combine with the measurable stuff, the timings and things 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:07.680 do you could just beg out and say no, if 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:09.560 you want to send the receiver's coach in here to 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:11.760 work me out, I'm all good with that. Or you 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:13.680 wants to send a running backs coach in, I'm good 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:16.000 with that. But the pressure of having to go and 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:18.240 try and make up for some of these things is big. 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:21.440 Did you guys need to go to Georgia? Oh? I know, 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:25.240 Georgia's next Wednesday. That's Georgie's high flying to Atlanta and 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:27.840 go do it. Alabama is on the thirtieth. That's the 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:30.400 other really really big What day is Alabama? Is it? 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:33.720 How close it is Wednesday? So it's uh, how many days? 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:38.640 Two weeks from yesterday, two weeks from two weeks after Georgia. Okayan, 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:41.200 Brian's a sucker. He wants them all to be back 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:43.040 to back. That's what I'm saying. I was trying to 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:44.600 get you. I would you want to rent a car 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:47.320 in Athens and drive exactly exactly? That's what I want 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:48.880 to do. Yeah, that's what I want to. I want 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:50.200 to I want to go all the way to I 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:51.520 want to go all the way to Athens and then 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:53.560 I want to work my way back and I'm hopeful 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:56.200 that I can hit. I hopeful I can hit uh 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:59.640 hit Georgia Alabama and then maybe LSU and then roll 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:03.680 this in. Jeff, you're self employed. Now, how's that sound? No, 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:07.480 non's awful. Hey, Auburn Auburn Tuesday. Everybody subscribed to my 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:10.040 YouTube page and need more money. You could go Auburn Tuesday. 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:17.080 Then you got Georgia on Wednesdays, the South Carolina's Friday. Jeff, like, 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:19.600 we're ready, we'll be here. I'm telling you, man, you 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:21.720 want to live stream the whole thing. I swear I'll watch. 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:23.400 I'm sure you want to feel like I was there, 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:26.400 that they'll put it on your chain. It's seriously though, 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:28.360 I mean, I remember going a couple of times when 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:30.440 when you and I went to Texas and Texas A 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:32.880 and m that one time and did that thing. And 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:35.079 I've been like I've been to like the Johnny manziel 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:37.360 Ones and things like that. There's things you could get. 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:39.840 Dane and I went to Oklahoma to watch Joe Mixon. 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:43.840 We watched Connor Williams entire workout exactly month before you 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:46.040 got picked here. Yeah, which I can hear the snarky 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:48.960 comments already. It's happening me, spare me. They're popping up, 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:51.000 all right. It's something to keep an eye on. They're 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:54.559 gonna be happening sporadically throughout the next month. The NFL 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:57.199 network puts a lot of them on TV. All those 0:08:57.280 --> 0:08:59.760 quarterback ones you'll see, well maybe not this class. I 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:03.280 don't No, they will because there's nothing else content. When 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:05.640 the NFL realized that they had a channel where they 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:08.960 could throw any meaningless football on in the offseason and 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:12.120 get people to watch. Yeah, it'll be there. I don't 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:14.120 want to talk about that for the entire first segment. 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:19.040 I actually I had a thought, and it's early. I mean, 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:22.360 we'll get we talk, we talk about everybody. That's the goal. 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:24.839 At least we'll get more into the weeds as the 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:28.559 draft gets closer. I assume it feels a little bit 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:31.640 repetitive to talk about the first round guys, but I do. 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:35.280 There's one position that I would like to get into 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:38.360 today that I feel like, of the major ones for 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:42.440 the Cowboys, we have paid less attention to. And it's 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:44.800 ironic because a lot of people think it's the deepest 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:50.720 position in this draft. Is the edge rushers? Why because 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:54.640 they're gonna get drafted so quickly that every time that's 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:56.560 actually what I want to talk about. Yeah, I mean, 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:58.200 every time you want to pick one, you're like, all right, 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:00.679 let's take this second round edge. I wake this third 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:03.680 round guy? Can you And I think I understand what 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:06.720 he's doing here, because think about this, it might be 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:09.920 the deepest position, but it might have the most questions 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:13.280 and they go fast, Well, but did you think about that? 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:16.839 The questions about Thibodeau, the questions about is really Hutchinson, 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:20.520 this guy, you know, Carloftus where I mean, I've seen 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:23.480 people pick him all over the board. Gray Walker is 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:25.640 all of a sudden, is Walker now the the guy 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:28.840 that everybody's going, Man, this is the safest guy. This 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:31.199 guy's the best. I mean, because they're starting to talk 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:37.000 about people saying that Walker over Carloftus, over Thibadeau, over 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:39.400 all these things. I know Dane Brugler has talked about 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:42.040 that a bunch, and I wonder if it's the one position. 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:44.520 A jobo is another one of the Michigan kids always 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:46.720 talking about Jermaine Johnson has been one of those guys 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:49.560 that's been a fast riser. It's the position. It might 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:52.800 have the most, but it might have the most questions 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:55.320 of their top guys. I think the only thing I 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:58.120 feel confident about right now is that Aidan Hutchinson will 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:02.320 be a top three pick. Read it could be there too. 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:05.000 He could could be. But see, I've a good point. 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:07.240 But people are starting five. People are starting to ding 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:11.040 him for this personality traits and stuff like that, you know, 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:13.679 And and that's always interesting because you know, are you 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:16.199 trying to drive a guy down? I mean there's people 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:19.000 talking about like the guys that might fall him. I 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:20.760 mean I mean fall I'm not talking about all the 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:24.880 way down the board, him Stingy, another guy from LSU 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:27.240 the corner. I mean the people are talking. They these 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:30.079 were guys that were sure fire top three players or so, 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:33.880 and now people are talking about him somewhere between, you know, 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:38.040 between seven and twelve, seven and fourteen, which like that. 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:42.720 The inspiration for this talking point was for our draft magazine. 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:44.480 You know, they make they make me do a first 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:47.800 round mock, which I'll be honest, I hate because especially 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:49.520 in Dude, I'm going home to do a mock right 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:53.000 after the love they are the worst? No, are you 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:55.960 doing a full thirty two team mock? Yeah, but the 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:58.439 computer is gonna pick the other thing exactly. The other 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:00.400 thing about it too, is is it a full thirty 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:02.840 two team mock? And is it a month in advance 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.080 and you have it set in stone for everybody to 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:06.880 read for the rest of time. Yeah, it's great. No, 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:10.800 because I will do thirteen thousands. You get a chance 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.240 to do it again. Want to simulate your last one 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:16.520 should be your best one? That mess with it. Deciding 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:18.640 what all thirty two teams are going to do before 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:21.240 free agency opens and having it be in a magazine 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:23.560 a month from now is just my favorite. Give the Cowboys, 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:27.080 Evan Neil, just be optimistic. Yeah. The reason I bring 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:30.160 it up is so I'm doing this mock and I'm like, Okay, 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:34.559 Hutchinson's like he's going number two. That's just too easy. Thibodeaux. 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:36.320 I think I'm a higher on him than a lot 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:38.400 of people are. He's a top five pick. And then 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:40.480 the rest of this and you know, like you go 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:42.679 around the internet to get inspiration, like you want to 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:46.440 see what others knowledgeable people are saying Dane's I mean, 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:49.800 Dane is gospel as far as I'm concerned, And like 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:53.079 every mock you look at, it's just a completely different situation. 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:56.600 Like Dane's got Trevon Walker in the top six. Somebody 0:12:56.640 --> 0:12:59.800 else has George karloftis in the top ten. Meanwhile, Dane's 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:03.000 got Carloft this like sixteen. So just help me sort 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:06.719 this thing out. I'm fascinated. Do the Cowboys have a 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:10.079 chance at a Carloft this or a Treyvon Walker or 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:13.160 somebody else that I'm not thinking of David Ajabo, Brian, 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:17.080 you're scared of him? Like, give me some direction here, somebody, 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:20.840 I would say, you can't have Aidan Hutchinson, you can't 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:25.080 have Cavon Tibodau, you can't have Trayvon Walker. The tough 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:27.680 part is which one do you put next? You probably 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:32.319 can't have Jermaine Johnson because I do think out of 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:35.680 my top six guys, because those are four of the 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:38.160 top six, the other two would be George Carlotas at 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:42.160 Purdue and David Ojabo at Michigan. But those two I 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:47.679 think have more physical questions than the other four. Right, 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:54.560 Like Hutchinson athletically stud Thibodeau, Stud Walker Stud Jermaine Johnson, 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:57.880 good athlete and can play the run and pass rush, 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:02.120 whereas David Ojaba is more as a rookie I think 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:06.120 can rush the passer with natural ability, but not a 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:09.520 totally well rounded, going to play seventy percent of the 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:13.319 snaps guy. And Karloftis is the one of that group 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:17.319 that has the short arms, not as athletic as the 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:20.320 other guys, but his tape is as good as some 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:22.840 of them. So I would say maybe you have a 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:28.760 chance at David Ojabo at Michigan or George Karloftus at Purdue. 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:33.280 The other four I think no, And that's why I 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:35.840 struggle with this edge class. Sorry, let me assume a 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:40.960 power stands, because I feel like all six will be gone, 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:45.080 yeah wow, And I think then you're gonna be looking 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:47.040 at this. I think offensive tackle an edge are going 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:50.000 to go, go, go, go, go go. And so then 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:52.640 when you want to take an edge, you're going to 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:54.480 be talking about a guy that I'm going to think 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:57.440 is the fiftieth best player in the draft because it's 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:00.720 a premier position and they go quick, and so you'll 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:02.040 be at twenty four and it's like, hey, who's your 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:04.480 best edge, And I'll be like in Nick Bare, the 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:06.440 South Carolina guy, and it's like, all right, where you 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:07.840 got him ranked? And I'm like, oh, he's like the 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:10.720 forty eighth best player in the draft. And that's how 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:15.560 past rush works, So I would I just can't see 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:17.480 a scenario where they're taking an edge at twenty four 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:21.640 unless George Karloftis or David Ojabo makes It would take 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:23.960 a fall for it to happen. Because you mentioned those 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:26.080 top six guys. Those are my top six as well. 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:28.080 But then there's kind of a drop off between those 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:31.560 first round talented or first round quality edge rushers, and 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:34.400 then you've got the my j Sanders from Cincinnati, Drake 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:37.800 Jackson from usc In nag Bare from South Carolina, all 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:40.280 kind of in a bunch that's gonna work its way 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:43.000 toward the second round. But even at fifty six, it's 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:46.360 the same problem because because it's a premier position, because 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:49.600 the Abacades from Penn State, they're gonna go early too. 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:52.320 They may all be top fifty players, the top ten 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:54.320 edge rushers might not even be on the board when 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:57.440 you get there. When fifty six rolls around, Brian, you 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:00.480 kind of went when you heard Drake Jackson, Well, yeah, 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:01.680 some of those names, it's kind of like that. I 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:03.800 don't even want him, Yeah, not even close there. Let 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:05.880 him No, No, I mean I'm not saying because of you, 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:08.120 because meat just person count on Jeff to be a 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:11.160 little reckless. No. The thing with trade jack Jackson day three, 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:13.880 That's what I'm saying. I can He'll go fifty six. 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:15.680 I got to look a third round grade on him. 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:18.840 Sanders the same way. You know, I just weren't the 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:24.320 South Carolina kid. I wasn't really Yeah, not Barre. Yeah. 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:27.000 I mean you just say the school and we'll handle 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:28.600 the names. You just I can't say, you know, I 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:30.720 can't say some of these names. But I mean there 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:33.800 was something cla tight end again. No, that was a disaster. 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:40.680 That was bad. What's his name, du Dulcitch. There's a 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:43.960 line trays in so that's like a done. Can't say 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:49.040 Dulcich say the same thing. I'll say one thing. He's 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:51.320 he's a really good player. That's a good player. He's 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:53.200 a good player. But that's what I'm saying. Though these 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:56.160 these I think there's for as deep as that position is, 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:58.640 there's a lot of questions. There's a lot of questions 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:00.480 about it, and you might have to over draft some 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:03.720 of these guys that that and you're gonna go, oh, 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:06.160 here we go, you know, the minute they don't play, well, 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:09.280 I'm gonna take boy a muffet four. I'll tell you 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:11.639 what man, freak athlete. He is a freak athlete. He 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:14.720 really really from what's twenty Minnesota And like I have 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:16.400 him as like a third round guy and I'm watching 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:18.800 people mocking him. Oh no, that's he can sneak into 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:21.440 the first because he's a pass rusher. Yeah, with and 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:24.840 he's a freak like the David ojabo ish tools where 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:27.440 it's like, oh yeah, bigger guys, super athlete. Yeah. I 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:30.000 know better than to ask this question because I've covered 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:33.440 the draft for a while. But again, you talk about 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:38.720 karloftis maybe short arms, lack of athleticism, the the book 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:41.119 on a job, Like anytime somebody brings up a jabo, 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:43.200 that's just that he's raw, that he's limited in what 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:46.560 he can do. Is there any chance that those guys 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:52.959 don't get overdrafted because there are offensive linemen or receivers 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:56.280 that people feel more sure about, like is it and 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:58.679 because we fall into this trap every year where we're like, oh, 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:01.480 he's he's gone because he rush as the passer. Maybe 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:05.879 is that premature? Is it possible that those guys are 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:08.520 hanging around in your arrange maybe more so than in 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:12.800 other years because there are questions about them. Maybe, but 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:15.240 I do. It's just it's such a premier thing. And 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:17.200 the reason that the hyper athletes are going to be 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:18.920 the guys that are going to go off the board 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:22.400 quickly is because more and more quarterbacks get the ball 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:25.040 out in two and a half seconds. So if you're 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:28.200 going to sack the quarterback, show me in practice that 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:30.720 you can do that within two point three seconds, and 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:34.320 I'll get you on the field. So these twitched, powerful 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:38.119 lower body bendy dudes, even if they're not complete players 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:40.119 on tape, even if they didn't have eight or ten 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:43.159 sacks in a college football season, you watch that workout 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:45.760 and you go, I can get him home. I can't. 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:47.960 Like you show me a six foot five, two hundred 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:50.159 and seventy five pound defensive end who's a good run 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:53.000 player and who runs a seven four three cone in 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:55.399 a four eight forty, and it's like, I don't know 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:57.280 if I can get him home. I can get boy 0:18:57.320 --> 0:18:59.040 a mofe home as soon as I teach them how 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:03.080 to play. Yeah, it's terrifying. That's that's it. I'll tell 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:06.080 you what I mean. I talk about the defensive end position. 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:09.080 Some of these guys, I think the wide receiver crews 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:11.320 some of that A little bit too scared about some 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:13.520 of these guys. I guarantee you at the end of 0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:15.680 when we get ready to go to draft, when we 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:19.720 saw sit down on that Thursday night, right, I guarantee you, 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:22.040 everybody will have a different list of their top five 0:19:22.119 --> 0:19:25.399 wide receivers. I guarantee you. I guarantee you that, and 0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:27.840 and and the questions you're gonna have where I love 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:31.360 a guy like Pickings from Georgia, Jeff will love sky Moore. 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:34.920 You know they'll they'll get But see, that's what I'm saying, 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:37.119 though everybody is going to have I don't think you 0:19:37.200 --> 0:19:41.200