WEBVTT - The Colt’s Neck Murders Trial: Week One 

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, everybody. Welcome to Amy and TJ Presents. This edition,

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<v Speaker 1>we are talking about the first week in a long

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<v Speaker 1>awaited trial out of New Jersey, the Colts Neck murders trial.

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<v Speaker 1>These murders happened on November twentieth, twenty eighteen, so we

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<v Speaker 1>are now nearly eight years later. Finally Paul Canaro is

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<v Speaker 1>facing quadruple murder charges for the deaths of his brother,

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<v Speaker 1>his sister in law, his niece, and his nephew. And

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<v Speaker 1>so much attention has been on this case. There's arson involved,

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<v Speaker 1>there's money is the motive, but this is just a

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<v Speaker 1>tragic scene where, if it's true what prosecutors say happened,

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of the most disturbing, jaw dropping murder cases

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<v Speaker 1>we've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 2>The kids are eight and eleven, folks. Yes, he's accused

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<v Speaker 2>of killing his niece and nephew eight and eleven. The

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<v Speaker 2>mom and dad were shot, the eight and eleven you

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<v Speaker 2>were stabbed, including the niece. The eight year old stabbed

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<v Speaker 2>some seventeen times in her forty five pound body, as

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<v Speaker 2>the prosecutor put it. So when we say this is

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<v Speaker 2>a heinous crime, this is beyond a lot of headlines

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<v Speaker 2>true crime stories, and shocking crimes that we've seen. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a family story about a massacre and a man

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<v Speaker 2>we are watching every day sitting in argyle sweaters and

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<v Speaker 2>v nex and ties as a guy accused of being

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<v Speaker 2>capable of stabbing his own niece seventeen times. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>we're dealing with. So you say jaw dropping and shocking,

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<v Speaker 2>this is beyond comprehension.

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<v Speaker 1>You're wondering because cameras are in the courtroom. So that adds,

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<v Speaker 1>of course to the intrigue of this case, because you're

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<v Speaker 1>actually watching this man who, if true what prosecutors say

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<v Speaker 1>he did, you're looking at a monster who was posing

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<v Speaker 1>as a husband and a loving father. Now his family

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<v Speaker 1>has been in the courtroom supporting him, his wife, his daughter,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is of note. But he has been behind

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<v Speaker 1>bars for all these years waiting for his trial. There

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<v Speaker 1>were a lot of delays because of what evidence should

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<v Speaker 1>or should not be allowed. They also blamed COVID for

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<v Speaker 1>the delay. But this has been seven plus years where

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<v Speaker 1>he has waited for his time in court, and Paul

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<v Speaker 1>Canaro from the beginning has maintained his innocence and we

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<v Speaker 1>heard in opening statements this week what the defense is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be And this also was a curveball for

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of folks who have been following this case.

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<v Speaker 1>We heard prosecutors outline their evidence, which is significant, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you have Paul Canaro's defense team saying that because

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<v Speaker 1>because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's so conveniently overwhelming,

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<v Speaker 1>it can't be believed and they pointed to another suspect.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we see this in a lot of trials. Are

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of high profile ones as of late, but

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<v Speaker 2>over the years, I mean, you can just be a

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<v Speaker 2>casual watcher of news and crime and true crime, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know that jurors want to hear a motive for

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<v Speaker 2>a crime, and they also if you're saying you're not guilty,

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<v Speaker 2>they'd like to hear an alternative for what happened. And

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<v Speaker 2>this case, they are giving them one first of all,

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<v Speaker 2>saying it wasn't me, but be going beyond that, two,

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<v Speaker 2>we believe it with somebody else. But even going beyond that, three,

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<v Speaker 2>we have the other suspect for you and name them,

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<v Speaker 2>and it happens to be the other brothers. So three

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<v Speaker 2>brothers involved here, one on trial for killing the other

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<v Speaker 2>and the one that's on trials is accusing the other

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<v Speaker 2>of doing the actual killing. This is a mess.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a mess. And when you hear about what

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<v Speaker 1>the motive is, that it's all about money. This seemingly

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<v Speaker 1>tight knit family, I mean, they have shown the photos

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<v Speaker 1>of the Canaros, Paul and Keith specifically, who were in

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<v Speaker 1>business together. Their families lived ten miles apart, they were

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<v Speaker 1>constantly in one another's homes, they vacationed together. They say

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<v Speaker 1>this was basically one extended family. So to see the

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<v Speaker 1>allegations that are in court, it's hard to get your

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<v Speaker 1>head around how a family so seemingly loving and in

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<v Speaker 1>business together and so a part of one another's lives

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<v Speaker 1>could be ripped apart in such a dramatic, horrific, bloody fashion.

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<v Speaker 1>So we heard we actually heard from Keith Canaro this

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<v Speaker 1>week in court, which was pretty remarkable, and the prosecution

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<v Speaker 1>promised this in their opening statements, that we would hear

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<v Speaker 1>two phone calls perhaps the last time anyone heard or

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<v Speaker 1>saw Keith Canaro. It was captured on his home surveillance

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<v Speaker 1>equipment just hours before he was murdered, and prosecutors played

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<v Speaker 1>the recordings of those calls that Keith made to his

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<v Speaker 1>brother Paul and Keith was upset.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he sounded like he was the one who wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to kill his brother. I mean not to be crass

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<v Speaker 2>about that, but he was. If this was a case

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<v Speaker 2>and he was the one on the other brother and

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<v Speaker 2>accused of killing his brother, this would be a pick

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<v Speaker 2>piece of that evidence. He was pissed. He was pissed

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<v Speaker 2>about money. He was pissed that he always had to

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<v Speaker 2>track him down for money. This has been an ongoing

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<v Speaker 2>thing that they're trying to build up. This is the

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<v Speaker 2>prosecution case, and this was part of it. This was

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<v Speaker 2>a financial motive that this guy, Paul can Arrow had

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<v Speaker 2>a financial house of cards. He was about to lose

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<v Speaker 2>his way of life, yet no other way to make

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<v Speaker 2>up for the money he was about. So it had

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<v Speaker 2>It had at times been boring testimony because they have

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<v Speaker 2>to go through financial records and times and you have

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<v Speaker 2>not to be the again. But we are TV people

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<v Speaker 2>and we're used to seeing people sometimes get on stand

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<v Speaker 2>and their characters. You can still remember Cato Kalin's testimony.

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<v Speaker 2>You can how he was his personality. Frankly, we have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of pencil pushers and you have people who

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<v Speaker 2>are going through files and whatnot. They warned us, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>this is going to get a little tedious at times,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's going to be drawn out, but they have

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<v Speaker 2>to go through this, and the point of it is

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<v Speaker 2>to establish to us, meaning the jury, that this guy

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<v Speaker 2>had a reason to kill. And at this point, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how firm it's coming across right now because

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<v Speaker 2>the amount of money we're talking about, what a life

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<v Speaker 2>insurance policy and then another smaller amount seventy eight relatively

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<v Speaker 2>smaller amount for them, are the two issues. Is it

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<v Speaker 2>enough for him to want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Kill his whole family, right and.

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<v Speaker 2>Then burn down two mansions to try to cover it up.

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<v Speaker 1>That's man, that's pretty dramatic and a yes, desperation. So

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<v Speaker 1>what they are setting up is that Paul Canaro stole

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<v Speaker 1>about eighty thousand, seventy eight thousand, I think specifically from

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<v Speaker 1>borrowed against a life insurance policy, and there was some

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<v Speaker 1>other times where it looked like he absolutely took money

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<v Speaker 1>for himself. He paid some of it back, but at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, we're talking about seventy eight

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars. And then there was a larger issue that yes,

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<v Speaker 1>if his brother Keith died, and then Keith's wife died

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<v Speaker 1>and then Keith's children died, then there would be a

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<v Speaker 1>three million dollar life insurance policy that would be split

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<v Speaker 1>between the two remaining brothers, which would be Paul and Corey.

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<v Speaker 1>So those are the two financial issues right now. But

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<v Speaker 1>this phone call that was played out there were two

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<v Speaker 1>phone calls in court, was pretty dramatic because yes, it

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<v Speaker 1>started about twelve hours before Keith Canaro would be murdered.

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<v Speaker 1>But he wants to know why his life insurance policy

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't been paid, and he wants to know from Paul Canaro.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, Paul, I need to know where the money went.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is about that missing seventy eight thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>So at three point fifty pm, the day before Keith

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<v Speaker 1>Canaro was found murdered, he said, if you can send

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<v Speaker 1>the password, I'll do the research myself. Then he calls

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<v Speaker 1>back three hours later, I need you to wake up,

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<v Speaker 1>Paul and do it. You don't have your TD login,

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<v Speaker 1>Give me the efing login. Give me the login, Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>wake the f up. And so he keeps calling Paul

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<v Speaker 1>by his name, he keeps dropping the F bomb profanity,

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<v Speaker 1>la I mean, he is upset. So then he's like

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<v Speaker 1>and you can't hear Paul, by the way, on the

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<v Speaker 1>other side, because this is just the surveillance camera where

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<v Speaker 1>you've got the video and the audio from Keith sums

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<v Speaker 1>you can't hear what Paul is saying on the other side.

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<v Speaker 1>But then he says, Paul, I'm worried. I need to

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<v Speaker 1>know where it went. And he ended the call by saying,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to give you an hour or two. I

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<v Speaker 1>want an answer by eight pm. And that is the

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<v Speaker 1>last you hear from Keith. And then prosecutors say Paul

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<v Speaker 1>never got back to him at eight pm. Instead, he

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<v Speaker 1>started planning the murder of his brother.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, tell little coincidence that the timing of it

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<v Speaker 2>he ends up dead on the night of that you

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<v Speaker 2>have a deadline night. That's that's pretty strong circumstantial evidence.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was a powerful moment in the court. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>we haven't had a as we say, keep calling him

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<v Speaker 2>a Perry Mason moment, but that was one. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that that worked for the prosecution. They made an impression.

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<v Speaker 2>They will remember that going into the germom.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and to hear to hear someone's voice and to

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<v Speaker 1>hear his demeanor and who he was directing his anger

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<v Speaker 1>at and hearing him give his brother an ultimatum and

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<v Speaker 1>then to know he ended up dead hours later, that

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<v Speaker 1>is certainly powerful. I mentioned demeanor when we come back.

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<v Speaker 1>That has been a huge part of this week with

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<v Speaker 1>the judge and the attorneys whether or not that is

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<v Speaker 1>something that can be allowed into evidence, and the defense

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<v Speaker 1>team definitely got a tongue lashing from the judge. But

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<v Speaker 1>we're also waiting to hear as we continue to watch

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<v Speaker 1>the prosecutors lay the groundwork for motive, we're waiting to

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<v Speaker 1>hear the defense's third brother theory. Welcome back everyone to

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<v Speaker 1>Amy and TJ presents where we are going over the

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<v Speaker 1>first week in a long way weighted trial of Paul Canaro.

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<v Speaker 1>He is accused of a quadruple homicide, murdering his own brother,

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<v Speaker 1>his sister in law, and then brutally murdering and stabbing

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<v Speaker 1>his eight year old niece his eleven year old nephew.

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<v Speaker 1>We heard from prosecutors who described how those children died

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<v Speaker 1>and how they didn't just die from their stab wounds.

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<v Speaker 1>They described the fire that Paul then set, a slow

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<v Speaker 1>smoldering fire where they said those children had smoke inhalation

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<v Speaker 1>in their lungs, so they said they bled out while

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<v Speaker 1>they were choking in smoke. That was that was hard

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<v Speaker 1>to take in. I can't imagine as a member of

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<v Speaker 1>the jury, You're hearing this from the prosecution and you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking across the room at this man who seems very

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<v Speaker 1>emotional wiping away tears in an argyle sweater vest. That's

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<v Speaker 1>got to be a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I look, I don't know what to make

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<v Speaker 2>of And to be honest with you, I was sitting

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<v Speaker 2>here and thinking about this. I was getting defense lawyers

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<v Speaker 2>mixed up. I'm be honest with you. We have been

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<v Speaker 2>seeing so many high profile trials here in the past

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<v Speaker 2>week or so, even in the latter months of last year.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting here, I'm actually thinking about this case and remembering,

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<v Speaker 2>oh no, wait, that's that was the other part. That

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<v Speaker 2>was Brendan Banfield's attorney. Oh no, that happened in the

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<v Speaker 2>Brian Walsh case. I'm actually getting scenarios and people mixed

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<v Speaker 2>up and who was wearing what, and who had the

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<v Speaker 2>female attorney and who had actually but this is another

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<v Speaker 2>one of those cases where you're there are so many

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<v Speaker 2>moments because of cameras to keep an eye on, to

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<v Speaker 2>where you don't have to rely on reading a news

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<v Speaker 2>outlet and saying, hey, this is the thing that jumps

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<v Speaker 2>out at you. You can watch it for yourself and

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<v Speaker 2>you see human drama play out. And so I appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>that we have cameras in the courtroom for this one,

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<v Speaker 2>but it is telling the story in a way that

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<v Speaker 2>headlines don't.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, And prosecutors went over the details of why

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<v Speaker 1>Paul was in such financial straits. This is what we're

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<v Speaker 1>hearing more of this motive and as you pointed out

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<v Speaker 1>before the break, that jury's it's not required for prosecutors

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<v Speaker 1>to show motive, but it certainly helps the jury get

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<v Speaker 1>their head around or their heads around this tale. The

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<v Speaker 1>prosecutors are spending in to know the why behind the

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<v Speaker 1>what is important when it comes to determining whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not someone is guilty, And so they went over it

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<v Speaker 1>gets detailed Paul's bank accounts, I think he had nine

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<v Speaker 1>of them, but how he spent his money on three Porsches,

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<v Speaker 1>Tiffany jewelry, living way outside of his means, buying an

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<v Speaker 1>audi apparently for an alleged mistress in the same time

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<v Speaker 1>period that came out in court as well. So they're

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<v Speaker 1>building this scenario of a man who was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>live this luxurious life and was stealing money from his

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<v Speaker 1>brother to pay the bills. And so, yes, we heard

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<v Speaker 1>Detective Debbie Bassen. We were watching her this week. She

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<v Speaker 1>was the financial crime investigator for the DA. And it

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<v Speaker 1>got testy to the point where the judge had to

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<v Speaker 1>admonish the defense team a couple of times, saying, you're

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<v Speaker 1>going into areas I don't know that we should be in.

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<v Speaker 1>So it got a little it got a little testy

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<v Speaker 1>in some very specific testimony that actually can be boring

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<v Speaker 1>when you're talking about finances. But this certainly is a

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<v Speaker 1>case like I have never seen before. And to watch

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<v Speaker 1>his facial expressions when all of this is going on,

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<v Speaker 1>all of these things are being said from his affairs,

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<v Speaker 1>who his overspending to the allegations of just the most

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<v Speaker 1>brutal crime, you can imagine. It's remarkable to have the

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<v Speaker 1>access we've had, and so we certainly appreciate you coming

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<v Speaker 1>along with us. We will continue to monitor. This trial

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<v Speaker 1>is expected to last several more weeks, and we again

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<v Speaker 1>are awaiting the defense's strategy. They said in opening statements

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<v Speaker 1>that they are going to throw the third broath Corey

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<v Speaker 1>under the bus, who they say had the most to

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<v Speaker 1>gain financially. If he could take out one brother by murder,

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<v Speaker 1>take out the other brother by framing him, he would

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<v Speaker 1>wind up solely with that three million dollar life insurance policy.

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<v Speaker 1>So we will continue to follow this trial bring you

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<v Speaker 1>all the details. Thank you as always for listening to

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<v Speaker 1>Amy and TJ Presents. I'm Amy Robock alongside TJ. Holmes.

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<v Speaker 1>We will talk to you soon