1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to the Monday edition of Fair Territory. I'm 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal, and this show, regrettably is brought to you 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: by the Hamape bone. The Hamae bone, the fractured of 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: the fracture of the hamdmape bone has been a topic 5 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: really all season, and we've got two more hammemade injuries 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: that took place over the weekend, both in the Al 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: Central Jose Ramirez, the Guardian Star, suffered a fractured hammate, 8 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: as did the Royals Vinnie Pasconino, who had struggled really 9 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: big time earlier this season but had revived in recent weeks. 10 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: Both these guys, the expectation will be that they are 11 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: lost for four to six weeks, maybe five to seven weeks, 12 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 1: somewhere in that range. Now the Royals, they're having a 13 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: miserable season, tied for the worst record in the American 14 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: League with the Angels. So these injuries, the more impactful 15 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: one clearly is on Cleveland. Now, Cleveland is a tea 16 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: that has a lot of depth in its infield, but 17 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: it only has one Jose Ramirez. He is their star, 18 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 1: and beyond being their star, he's their leader. The example 19 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: that is set for all of the other players. You 20 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: hear the Guardians talk about it constantly. We have a 21 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: guy who we all follow, we follow his work, ethic, 22 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: his approach to the game, and that is Jose Ramirez. 23 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: So when you lose him, you lose a lot. Now 24 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: the Guardians have Gabriel Arias, he's coming back to the team, 25 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: he has been injured. He'll play third base for them. 26 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: They've got Rokio at second, Bazana. I'm sorry, Rokio at 27 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: short Bazana at second they'll be okay. And of course 28 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: they're going to pitch because they pitch really well. But 29 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: clearly this is a loss for them. And it's interesting. 30 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: With the hamma fractors, we've seen varying recoveries. Now, generally speaking, 31 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: players recover pretty well from this. Corbyn, Carroll, Francisco Lindor, 32 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: Jackson Holliday. Those are the three guys remember who had 33 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: this injury at the start of spring training had the surgery. 34 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: Carol recovered great. He is fifth in the major leagues 35 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: in f war right now. He's one of the best 36 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: players in the league. Lindor recovered okay, and then of 37 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: course suffered the left calf strain, so he's still been out, 38 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: and then you've got Jackson Holliday, who is a young 39 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: player who had struggled before and continues to struggle. He 40 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: took a long time, longer time to recover from the 41 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: surgery than the other two did. And I don't know 42 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: that it's the risk that's bothering him so much or 43 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: a hand as much as just him getting adapted still 44 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: to the major league. So the Guardians are going to 45 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: be challenged here, There's no question about it. Ramirez had 46 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: struggled in May. He had an eight to forty nine 47 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: ops in June, so he was coming around for sure. 48 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: And the good news, if you want to call it 49 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: that for the Guardians is that they've been here before. 50 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: If you remember last season, they lost Shane Bieber at 51 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: the start of the sea into Tommy john surgery. Shane 52 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: Bieber was going to be their ace, and then Emmanuel 53 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: Classe and Luis Ortiz, they are guys that were investigated 54 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: thats suspended by Major League Baseball early. Well, I'm sorry 55 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: in July, and let me get this straight. I got 56 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: the whole sequence wrong here. Bieber was coming back from 57 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: Tommy Johnson. He was out at the start of the season. 58 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: Eventually came back and was traded to the Blue Jays. 59 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: Classe and Louis Ortiz their investigation into the gambling that 60 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: happened in July. So they lost all these guys. They 61 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: eventually traded Bieber lost, Ortiz lost, Classe, their great closer. 62 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: And what do they do. They rallied from a fifteen 63 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: and a half game deficit to win the Al Central. 64 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: So the Guardians, by no means are done here. Excuse 65 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: me one second. They're gonna be okay. And in that division, 66 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: it's a weak division relatively speaking, but it's a better 67 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: division than it's been in the past. And one reason 68 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: it's better is the Chicago White Sox. And you can say, well, 69 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: can't wait a second. The rest of the division still stinks. 70 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: A Minnesota's played pretty well. Detroit with Schooble now we'll 71 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: get to them in a second. And then you have, 72 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: of course Kansas City, who has struggled. But the division 73 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 1: with the White Sox coming on now is going to 74 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: get a little interesting. And we'll see what happens with 75 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,559 Speaker 1: the Tigers. Now. The Tigers had Schooball come back this weekend, 76 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: and yet they still lost two to the Guardians before 77 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: the rain out on Sunday, and even with schoobl back, 78 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: there's still thirteen games under five hundred. They are still 79 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: six out in the wild Card. They are still in 80 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: a position where they have the third worst record in 81 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: the American League, ahead of only Kansas City and the Angels. 82 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: So my expectation remains that Schooble will be traded and 83 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: we will see over the next six weeks how he performs, 84 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: and how the Tigers performed too, and how it all 85 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: shakes out. But as I wrote a couple of weeks ago, 86 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: when they were sixteen under, it's a big hole to 87 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: climb out of, even in a mediocre Ale Central, even 88 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: in a mediocre American League. So we'll see how it 89 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: plays out. As I said, Schooba looked okay on Saturday 90 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: four and two thirds innings. He gave up the two 91 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: run homer to Daniel Schneman, but otherwise was pretty good. 92 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: His stuff was there. Looks like he's going to be 93 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: fine coming off that nano needle surgery. Will the Tigers 94 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: be fine? That remains to be seen. My guess is no. 95 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: And then there are the White Sox, and I don't 96 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: know that honestly, we can talk enough about what the 97 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: White Sox are doing. It's an amazing thing that has 98 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: happened here, the turnaround of this franchise. This week or 99 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: the past week. They won two straight from Atlanta before 100 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: a postponement, and then they won two of three from 101 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Dodgers at home for in one home stand. 102 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: They're now twenty and four in their last twenty four 103 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: games at home. They are eight and five without Monetaka Morikami. 104 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: Remember he went down. People thought, eh, their offense might 105 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: struggle seventh in the majors in runs per game. Their 106 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: offense has continued to be really good. And yeah, they're 107 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: gonna need some help at the deadline. They're gonna need 108 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: some pitching help if they're going to stay in this thing. 109 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: And they are a rebuilding club still, so I don't 110 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: expect them to go crazy, as I have said earlier. 111 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: But the White Sox are much more competitive, and that's 112 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: the right word competitive than any of us thought. This 113 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: team fights, They've got talent, they hit home runs, they 114 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,559 Speaker 1: do a lot of good things. Antanachi is an exciting player. 115 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: My drawth all these guys contributing, and it's been a 116 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: ton of fun to see them come on like this. 117 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: Today's episode is not really sponsored by the hamdmapone, It's 118 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: sponsored by Ziggi and a player I love to watch 119 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: on the looking forward to watching again this week is 120 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: Jacob Misarowski. 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They had that crazy game where 138 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: they blew the nine to one lead to the Giants 139 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: last week, but they came back won two or three 140 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: from Seattle. They've been a pleasant surprise in a rebuilding mode. 141 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: And then there are the Miami Marlins, who had I 142 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: would say higher expectations this season than the Nationals certainly, 143 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: And you remember I had talked about the Marlins quite 144 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: a bit. I kind of thought they were ready to 145 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: take possibly the next step. They haven't really done that, 146 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 1: and they've had a wave of pitching injuries Uri Perez, Jansen, Junk. 147 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: They're out Rob Stelling, Robbie Stelling, I should say, one 148 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: of their top prospects. He is going to undergo a 149 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: Tommy John surgery. Thomas White, another one of their top 150 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: pot pitching prospects, has a shoulder problem. He too, is 151 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: likely out for the years. So they've had in just 152 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: recent weeks all of these setbacks. They signed Chris Paddock, 153 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: he was in their rotation, initially didn't work out. They've 154 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: had a ton of things happened against them from an 155 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: injury standpoint, a performance standpoint, and yet they've hung in 156 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: there of late with bullpen games with Sandy al Contra, 157 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: of course, and now with Max Meyer, who is emerging 158 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: in a breakout season as one of the game's aces. 159 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: Max Meyer has dominated for the Marlins, and he is 160 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: a guy who, as you can see right there from 161 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: the graphic, has done some pretty special things this season. 162 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: He in his last fifteen starts has not where it 163 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: actually as fifteen starts this season, has yet to suffer 164 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: or a loss. Now one loss record. We know it's 165 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: not that meaningful a stat, but you look at him 166 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: right there, seven to zero with a two point seventy five. 167 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: The whip is good, the strikeouts really good. He's having 168 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: a really nice run here, and for a team that 169 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: needs him to have a nice run now, al Contra 170 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: is a guy that is going to come up in 171 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: trade talks. Bob Nightingale reported over the weekend that the 172 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: Marlins are all but certain to trade him. I don't 173 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: hear it necessarily the same way I hear they've been 174 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: resistant in the past and might not be as open 175 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: to it even this deadline as we would think they 176 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: would be. I'm sure they listen, but we'll see where 177 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: they are in the race and how they are playing 178 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: at the time. Right now, they've won four straight series 179 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: against Washington, Tampa, Bay, Arizona, and Pittsburgh. They're back to 180 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: five hundred. No one would call them a threat to 181 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: the Dodgers per se. But at the same time, they 182 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 1: went into this season hoping to be a better team, 183 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: hoping to take another step in their process going forward, 184 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: trying to become a contender. They even with the pitching 185 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: problems that they have, are right now on their way 186 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: to being in a better place. As I said, so 187 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: this week I wrote about, actually today I wrote about 188 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Affillies and their managerial change from Rob Thompson 189 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: to Don Mattingly. That's going to be the topic of 190 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: the Inside Dish today. And the Inside Dish, of course, 191 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: is a segment where I talk about a story I've written, 192 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: which i'll do today, trend in the game, which I 193 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 1: sometimes do, or something else entirely, which I rarely do, 194 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: but I always talk about possibly doing. But the Phillies 195 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: managerial situation is an interesting one, and I must preface 196 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: this by saying it's kind of dangerous for me to 197 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: write about the Phillies and their managers based on what 198 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: happened last time I did that when I wrote they 199 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: should not have traded or sorry, far fired Joe Girardi. 200 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: And of course they fired Joe Girardi. It proved to 201 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: be the right move, and then I had to write 202 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: this column. Okay, Phillies fans, I will say it, I 203 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: was wrong. This was after repeated assault on social media 204 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: from Phillies fans saying can you idiot? And let's face it, 205 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: they were right. They were absolutely right. Now this managerial 206 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 1: change is a little different than the last one, and 207 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: we'll get into it now. So far, going from Rob 208 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: Thompson to Don Mattingly has been an unqualified success. There's 209 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 1: no arguing with the result. The team was nine to 210 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: nineteen under Rob Thompson. Since then, even after losing two 211 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: of three in Milwaukee over the weekend, the Phillies are 212 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: twenty nine and fourteen under Don Mattingly. That is the 213 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 1: second best record in the Majors in that span. So 214 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: this isn't a situation like the Boston Red Sox, for instance, 215 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: who under Alex Cora were ten and seventeen. They fied Cora, 216 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: They bring in Chad Tracy and since then they're nineteen 217 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: and twenty three and pretty much the same inspired, uninspired team. 218 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: Inspired is not the word we've used for the Red Sox, 219 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: the same uninspired team that we saw before the change. 220 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: But even with the Phillies' success, this one kind of 221 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: bothered me in some place. They're kind of stuck in 222 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: my crawl a little bit. And I had been waiting 223 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: to see the Phillies, which I did over the weekend 224 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: for FS one, because I wanted to talk to their players. 225 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to obviously Don Matteley, and I 226 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,479 Speaker 1: wanted to talk to their President of Baseball Operations Dave Dombrowski. 227 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 1: And the firing bothered me in a different way than 228 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: Kors did the Coras situation that was just another reflection 229 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: of Red Sox chaos. This situation was one in which 230 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: the Phillies fired their winningest manager since nineteen hundred, the 231 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: guy with the highest winning percentage, and they fired him 232 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: because they just were performing poorly. Okay, it was still 233 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: really early in the season, it was not yet even May. 234 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: And in this situation what bugged me with two things 235 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: really one the players, in my opinion, shouldn't need the 236 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: wake up call of a managerial change to snap out 237 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: of it. And that's what happened here. And the other 238 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: thing that was to me curious here is that if 239 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: David Dombrowski had waited to make the change, or waited 240 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: to give more time to Rob Thompson, it's entirely possible, 241 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: maybe even likely, that the Phillies would have had the 242 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: same kind of turnaround. Why do I say that. I 243 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: say that because at the time of the firing, the 244 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: Phillies were coming off thirteen straight games against two really 245 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: hot teams, the Cubs and the Braves. Now the Cubs 246 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: have since not been as hot, but at the time 247 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: they had that ten game winning streak, the first of 248 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: their ten game winning streaks. Six of those wins in 249 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: the first streak came against the Phillies. The Braves, of course, 250 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: at the time, were considered something of an early surprise, 251 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: but they continue to have the best record in the Majors. 252 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: So in those thirteen games, thirteen consecutive games against those 253 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: two teams, the Phillies went too and eleven Okay, they 254 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: looked bad. Offense third worst in the Major Leagues, pitching 255 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: third world from the Major Leagues, defense not much better, 256 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: if at all. So you had a situation where, Okay, 257 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: they don't look good, but their schedule was bound to 258 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: get better, and in fact, it was going to get 259 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: better almost immediately. Now, in that sense, Dombrowski picked the 260 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: perfect time to do this, because the schedule was getting better. 261 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: The Phillies were beginning a run of twenty two straight 262 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: games against teams that currently are five hundred or below. 263 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: It was the perfect time for a team to bounce back. 264 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: It was also an opportunity if they had stayed with 265 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: Rob Thompson, for him to regain the equilibrium of the 266 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: club as their leader. Now, as I wrote, Thompson wasn't 267 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: perfect here, and the Phillies kind of played with a 268 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: lack of urgency in that first month. He managed to 269 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: some degree with the lack of urgency, particularly with his 270 00:15:56,040 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: bullpen moves, and you could see why Dave Dombrowski got 271 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: a little frustrated here. At the same time, would they 272 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: have rallied, would they have rallied the same way? We'll 273 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: never know the answer to that. That's the first paragraph 274 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: of what I wrote. Now what happened here? Initially Dave 275 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: Dombrowski went for Alex Corr. Alex Corr is fired on 276 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: a Saturday. He immediately contacts Dombrowski, who is one of 277 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: his mentors in the game. They talk. Eventually Dombrowski offers 278 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: him the job, he doesn't take it, and what happens 279 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: They fired Thompson anyway two days later and bring in Manningly. Now, 280 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: Don Manningly is a guy who became their bench coach 281 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: this season in kind of a surprising way. He had 282 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: stepped away from the Blue Jays after last year where 283 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: he was their bench coach, and kind of thought he 284 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: was done with baseball. But the Phillies called, felt they 285 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: needed a new bench coach, wanted Mattingley to come in 286 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: and assist Rob Thompson and Preston Manningly. Don Sun is 287 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: the Phillies general mager, so he takes the job. Of course, 288 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: baseball beating baseball. Crazy things happened, and now he's the 289 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:08,719 Speaker 1: manager again, probably short term and probably just for this season. 290 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: It's very likely or possible, I should say, Alex Cora 291 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: will be managing the Phillies next season. But Mattingly came in. 292 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 1: And the difference here from what happened in twenty twenty 293 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: two when Joe Girardi was fired as manager and replaced 294 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: by Rob Thompson. Is that Mattingly's personality, his demeanor with 295 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: the players, low key but firm. It's not all that 296 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: different from Rob Thompson's. In twenty two it was dramatically 297 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: different what happened. Joe Girardi had grown tense, distant from 298 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: his players. We later learned this. Actually we could see 299 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: it in real time. I missed it. Don Manningly's style, 300 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: as I said, is not much different than Rob Thompsons. 301 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: Rob Thompson's style was a lot different than Joe Girardi's. 302 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: So Maddingley comes in and yes, the players woke up, 303 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: and they woke up, and they've played much better. They 304 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: still are not perfect, and it's interesting with the Phillies. 305 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: Maybe all's well that ends well here, But they're twenty 306 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: six yor tied for twenty six in the majors in 307 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: runs per game. That's scoring. They have an outfield. Even 308 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: with Brandon marsh being one of the best hitters in 309 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: the major leagues right now, their outfield is one of 310 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: the least productive in the Majors. They've now lost a 311 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: Dolice Garcia for the season, they're scrambling there. They need 312 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: more outfield help. They've got dead money on their roster 313 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: thirty five million, little less than that going to Nick 314 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: Castianos and Taiwan Walker, so Dombrowski too bears responsibility here. 315 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: Of course, no roster is perfect. The Phillies rosters certainly 316 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: is not perfect. But say this for the Phillies, at 317 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: least they've righted themselves and they're now entering an easy 318 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: part of their schedule again, easier part of their schedule, 319 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: and as jt real Muto told Jason Stark on his 320 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: podcast last week, it is inevitable they were going to 321 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: play better. Trey Turner told me the same thing. So 322 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: the Phillies at least to some degree, are back, but 323 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: at least for Rob Thompson, as I wrote, it happened 324 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: too late. All right, we'll be back with Grill and 325 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 1: Keen after this. 326 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 2: Support for today's episode comes from Square, and they've got 327 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 2: big news. During Squar's biannual Releases event, they launched a 328 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 2: wave of innovative new tools to help local businesses run faster, smarter, 329 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 2: and more profitably. Square is awesome Around Orlando, where AJ 330 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 2: and I live. We go to the farmers' markets around town. 331 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 2: I go to the one near Lake Iola. 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First one comes from Bubbs 351 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 1: two ninety eight, who asks Ken, who is someone who 352 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: you hope gets into the All Star Game that's a 353 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: bit of a dark horse but is performing exceptionally. Well, 354 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: I'll give you one name. I don't know that this 355 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 1: guy is going to make it because he's coming from 356 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: a team that is really good and is going to 357 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: have already multiple All Stars. But Jake Bowers of the 358 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: Milwaukee Brewers having a monster season, breakout season. He's a 359 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: guy who was once a top prospect and then kind 360 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: of went three years of struggle and now is emerging 361 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: as an absolute force for the Brewers. As emerged as 362 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: an absolute force for the Brewers, and he's a guy 363 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: who I always kind of root for because, like others 364 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: players who struggle, you want to see them succeed. You 365 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: want to see guys who have been through it kind 366 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: of get to a point where they're playing to their potential. 367 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: And Bowers has reached his potential now finally. So he's one. 368 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: There are many others. I'm sure we'll get to them. 369 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: I'll have an All Star calm as we get closer 370 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: to the game with my picks. I'm sure that will 371 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: be well received and we'll go from there. All right, 372 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: let's get to the next question. This one comes from 373 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: Tyler Max Smith, who asks, so maybe you were right 374 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: all off season when you said the Braves needed more 375 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: starting pitching. Do you think they will add sooner rather 376 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 1: than later or will they wait until the deadline. Okay, 377 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: I did write that all off season, and my concern 378 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: always was they and they had lost s trolling back 379 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: at the time they had had questions about Strider now 380 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: is hurt again. They were in a spot where they 381 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: were okay, but they probably needed more, and they certainly 382 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 1: need more now. This is a team that could go 383 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,199 Speaker 1: really far this postseason if they make it, which they 384 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: should and they still have, of course Chris Slee and 385 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: Bryce Elder, and they have some really good things going 386 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: for them. But yes, I would like to see them 387 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: get a starter at the deadline. They are a team 388 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: that I'm sure will at least check in on Schooble. 389 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,719 Speaker 1: It's not their kind of play. Their farm system is 390 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: not all that great. I don't know that they can 391 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: get Schooble. They'll have enough to get Schooble if they're 392 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: indeed even going down that route for a rental. But 393 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: the Braves, certainly, with the state of their rotation right now, 394 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: Holmes has been okay, Perez has been a revelation. But yes, 395 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 1: they need more and we'll see if they go get 396 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: it right. Next question, this one comes from Joe said 397 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: it is true. He's gonna be right. He said it 398 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: is true. Joe asked, will we see another socks the 399 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: socks trade can perhaps some of Boston's expensive pitching for prospects. Well, 400 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: all right, the first socks for socks trade, the one 401 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 1: that I'm sure Joe said it's true is referring to, 402 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 1: is the Crochet trade, which is working out great for 403 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: both teams. Now, what he is suggesting here would be 404 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: most likely Sonny Gray to the White Sox, and I 405 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: guess some young players going back in return of maybe 406 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 1: the White Sox simply taken the contract. Certainly the idea 407 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: of adding Sonny Gray would be appealing to the White Sox. Now, 408 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: it's a lot of money, it's a kind of a 409 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 1: thing that I don't know that they'd be willing to do. 410 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: But we have seen over the years, not just the 411 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: Crochet trade, but going back to the Chris Sale trade 412 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: between the Socks and the Socks, some good things have 413 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: happened between these teams. So yeah, maybe it happens again. 414 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: All right, thinking out one more time or time for 415 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,959 Speaker 1: one more let's try it here. This one comes from 416 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: Zach Sharp, who asked, with the Jose Ramirez injury, do 417 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 1: the White Sox become the favorite in the Ales Central 418 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: with the Tigers having played so poorly. I don't know 419 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,959 Speaker 1: that I would go that far. And the reason I 420 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 1: say that is Ramirez should be back sometime around the deadline, 421 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: maybe a little before, maybe a little after, and at 422 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: that point there is just about two months remaining in 423 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: the season, so this is not a season ending thing. 424 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 1: If it were and I had a bone, is pretty 425 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: clearly usually four to six weeks, et cetera. If it 426 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: were a season ending injury, sure, I'd say the White 427 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 1: Sox might be the favorite, But I don't see it 428 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: that way just yet. And I'm not sure I see 429 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: the White Sox pitching holding up unless they, of course add, 430 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: and I think they will be judicious with the way 431 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: they go about adding. They're not going to go crazy 432 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 1: and trade prospects for a rental. Big prospects. They may 433 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 1: take on a rental and take on money. I don't 434 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: know that I see Jerry after doing that either, but 435 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: it's not going to be a situation where they are 436 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: the all in team at the deadline. But good for 437 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: the White Sox that we're even having this conversation. And 438 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: that is it for our show today. I want to 439 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: thank everyone for watching and for listening. Foul Territory coming 440 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: up at one pm Eastern AJ Prazinski State champion head 441 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: coach Eric Kratz we'll learn more about that, and Scott 442 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: Throun host. The guests will include Jeremy Affelt. We'll be 443 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: back Thursday at twelve thirty Eastern. 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