Speaker 1: Up next, how Loud with Gianno Caldwell, part of the
Speaker 1: English At long last, we finally arrived at the twenty election,
Speaker 1: normal waiting, no more predicting well except for today. Because
Speaker 1: it's Monday, of the day before the election, it's time
Speaker 1: for Americans to vote, which they have in record numbers already.
Speaker 1: Today I discussed everything you need to know about the
Speaker 1: choice before us. This is out Loowed with Gianno Calledwell.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to Outllow with Gianno Calledwell. I've got a
Speaker 1: big show for you today and just a few minutes
Speaker 1: I'm going to speak to the one and only speaker,
Speaker 1: new Gangridge about the election and what comes next. But
Speaker 1: first I want to thank my listeners. It's been officially
Speaker 1: one month on air and the numbers have been massive,
Speaker 1: So I want to thank every one of you who
Speaker 1: continue to tell your friends and family about Outlowed with
Speaker 1: Gianno Called Well and share the show. I also want
Speaker 1: to thank you for following me on Instagram, Twitter and
Speaker 1: Facebook at Giano Caldwell. If you haven't followed me yet,
Speaker 1: please do so right now. In addition to that, I
Speaker 1: know that there's been a lot that has going on
Speaker 1: this year. We've come through COVID and we are actually
Speaker 1: still in the pandemic. We've come through riot and looting,
Speaker 1: We've come through um protests about racial justice, which I
Speaker 1: think are very important protests, and now we're at the
Speaker 1: forefront of what's going to be a very new year
Speaker 1: and potentially a new administration. I'm hoping that President Trump
Speaker 1: is gonna stay in office. Personally, his policies have been
Speaker 1: very beneficial to me. I'll be very honest with you,
Speaker 1: But now we have a choice. That choice is do
Speaker 1: we go with Joe Biden or Donald Trump? And honestly speaking,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of you are going to choose
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, not because you're listening to me and I'm
Speaker 1: a conservative, but because you recognize the value that has
Speaker 1: been added to your life by way of those particular policies.
Speaker 1: I can never understand why a guy would run for office,
Speaker 1: and I'm talking about Joe Biden and say I'm gonna
Speaker 1: raise your taxes. It was reported that over four hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty thousand businesses have failed since the beginning of
Speaker 1: the pandemic. It makes no sense to even imagine the
Speaker 1: pain that many families are going through right now. Those
Speaker 1: who can't provide for their their children, those who can't
Speaker 1: send their kids to schools because schools are closed in
Speaker 1: some of these states. The fact that in a state
Speaker 1: that I lived in during the pandemic, and I'm talking
Speaker 1: about California, where they shut everything down around me so
Speaker 1: I had to escape to Florida, I can't imagine the
Speaker 1: pain that so many of you may be going through
Speaker 1: at this time. But now we have a choice. We
Speaker 1: can either go with four years of prosperity and hopefully
Speaker 1: get the economy back on track and move forward. As
Speaker 1: we've seen last week with the GDP growth, things are
Speaker 1: changing and finally getting back to where we were. Or
Speaker 1: we can raise your taxes and maybe at more regulation
Speaker 1: and see a transition of the old industry. As Joe
Speaker 1: Biden said in his final debate, I think the choice
Speaker 1: for many people will be clear, and the choice for
Speaker 1: me is already clear. And I got another interest when
Speaker 1: I talk about the presidential election. I was talking to
Speaker 1: a friend of mine just the other day about this race,
Speaker 1: and she was informing me that she doesn't like Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: which I knew she didn't like them to begin with.
Speaker 1: She's independent, but she's liberal, but she wants to see
Speaker 1: Donald Trump win. Why because she's African American and she
Speaker 1: believes the Democratic Party have taken for granted the African
Speaker 1: American community for far too long. Donald Trump has invested
Speaker 1: in the black community. We can talk about policy measures
Speaker 1: like the First Step Act, Opportunities Owned Fund for historically
Speaker 1: black colleges. We can talk about the Platinum Plan that
Speaker 1: he's looking to implement if he's reelected. We can talk
Speaker 1: about all of those great things that he's done. And
Speaker 1: to me, although I don't like some of the things
Speaker 1: that he says or does personally, I think he says
Speaker 1: some things that are insensitive. I don't like everything that
Speaker 1: he tweets. So he's not gonna be my favorite in
Speaker 1: terms of kindness and being a nice and gentle person,
Speaker 1: not at all. But when it comes to policies, I'd
Speaker 1: rather have that over the rhetoric of the Democratic Party,
Speaker 1: which have often said all the right things but never
Speaker 1: have delivered. I like that moment in a debate where
Speaker 1: Trump was asking Joe Biden, you've been around for forty
Speaker 1: seven years, why didn't you do an these things? Then?
Speaker 1: Why didn't you do it? As eight years as Vice president? Joe,
Speaker 1: why didn't you do any of those things, and he
Speaker 1: honestly didn't. He didn't have an answer to it, because
Speaker 1: that's what we've become accustomed to, all talk and no action.
Speaker 1: But I think if there's enough black voters that actually
Speaker 1: support Donald Trump, and I really believe that there is
Speaker 1: underbelly of individuals who have had enough with the Democratic Party,
Speaker 1: whether they like Donald Trump or not, if there's enough
Speaker 1: of those folks significant enough all of a sudden, instead
Speaker 1: of Black folks just going to the Democratic Party just
Speaker 1: because that's what we're used to doing. Now you have
Speaker 1: a community that two parties, Democrats and Republicans, are fighting
Speaker 1: over your vote year after year, and at this point
Speaker 1: they both have to deliver. They both have to say,
Speaker 1: this is what I'm offering. What do you think instead of, oh,
Speaker 1: Republicans are racist, you should just vote for me, which
Speaker 1: is one of the stupidest things that you can imagine
Speaker 1: people saying right now, and it's a dishonest statement. So
Speaker 1: I want to tell everybody this is the day before election,
Speaker 1: no matter who you vote for, because I know I
Speaker 1: have some liberal listeners as well. I know because you
Speaker 1: guys message me on Twitter and also dm me on Instagram.
Speaker 1: Whoever you vote for. Just get out and vote, but
Speaker 1: know what you're voting for. Look at the histories of
Speaker 1: both candidates. Turn off the news and actually read about them.
Speaker 1: Don't be told what there is about those candidates. The
Speaker 1: media is negative against Trump. I understand that. I get that.
Speaker 1: Just read what is really there. Understand what Joe Biden
Speaker 1: is really saying when he says we're gonna do a
Speaker 1: transition when it comes to the old industry. We have
Speaker 1: to have a clear eye view of what we're voting for.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, just vote. That's
Speaker 1: the most important thing. This is out Allowed with Janno Caldwell.
Speaker 1: New Ginger represented Georgia's sixth district in the US Congress
Speaker 1: for twenty years and served as a Speaker of the
Speaker 1: House from rich was also a Republican presidential candidate in
Speaker 1: twelve so he knows what running for president is all
Speaker 1: about today. The Speaker is not only chairman of Ginger
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Speaker 1: that is outllowed with Giano Caldwell and the Gingerish three
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Speaker 1: folks bringing different ideas to the conservative movement. He's also
Speaker 1: a bestselling author, and his most recent book is Trump
Speaker 1: in the American Future, Solving the Great Problems of our time.
Speaker 1: Mr Speaker, is certainly an honor to have you on
Speaker 1: the show, and thank you for believing in my talents.
Speaker 1: Seeing the numbers have been looking very good, so I
Speaker 1: hope that you're very happy with what I've been doing. Now,
Speaker 1: just to jump in, of course, we're one day before
Speaker 1: the election, and I am so intrigued to know what
Speaker 1: are your predictions. Mr Speaker. I say before I get
Speaker 1: to the election that I'm very excited. But how you
Speaker 1: have really grabbed this moved with it, got both great
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Speaker 1: think here at the beginning of a long and very
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Speaker 1: delighted to be with you and to go to your
Speaker 1: question blessing one words for you MS to speak from
Speaker 1: your speak Thank you. Sure, No, I'm I mean I've
Speaker 1: been watching your development and I think you've got the rhythm.
Speaker 1: You have a sense of what this is all about.
Speaker 1: I would just say, although in twenty four hours, whether
Speaker 1: I got it right. I think that Trump will win.
Speaker 1: I think some states will be pretty close. But I
Speaker 1: think the weight of his organization and the level of
Speaker 1: ay of energy there there isn't much positive energy for Biden.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of anti Trump energy for Biden, but
Speaker 1: there's not much she I can't wait to go vote
Speaker 1: for Joe. The fair number say I can't wait to
Speaker 1: go vote against Trump. That's a different issue. And so
Speaker 1: my guess is that Trump will I'm just gonna go
Speaker 1: away out of them and we can have a do
Speaker 1: another platf I'm totally wrong. We'll do another podcast later
Speaker 1: on a painfully learned lessons. But I think he's probably
Speaker 1: gonna win with three electoral votes. I think that he
Speaker 1: has begun to consolidate and the people. The way I
Speaker 1: describe it, you have a bunny rabbit who's hiding in
Speaker 1: a basement, and you have a bear who's stalking around
Speaker 1: the country talking to crowds of twelve, fifteen, twenty thousand people.
Speaker 1: This is a dangerous world. And when you really get
Speaker 1: down to it, that the true anti Trump voters already
Speaker 1: decided they're not even part of the campaign. They're gonna
Speaker 1: go vote no and try and vote for Biden out
Speaker 1: of default. But every everybody who has not yet made
Speaker 1: their mind up that there's a reason that they can't
Speaker 1: quite bring themselves to be for Biden. And I think
Speaker 1: it's because in a world is really dangerous, having a
Speaker 1: bunny of ravenue highs in the basement. It's just not
Speaker 1: a sense of security. And while Trump has some rough edges,
Speaker 1: the fact is he is like a bear. He's courageous,
Speaker 1: he's aggressive, he may make mistakes, with the mistakes leaning
Speaker 1: forward and trying to get things done. And I think
Speaker 1: the sheer contrast between these you know, entire days where
Speaker 1: where Biden goes off and Biden ends up seeing five
Speaker 1: or ten or fifteen people, four days where Biden does
Speaker 1: nothing and they announced at nine o'clock in the morning
Speaker 1: that they have a lid on it because he ain't
Speaker 1: doing nothing. He did. He had five out of six
Speaker 1: days just before the last debate where he didn't do anything.
Speaker 1: You can't be president one day out of six. And
Speaker 1: I think people who have not already decided that they
Speaker 1: are going to vote against Trump are almost all I'm
Speaker 1: gonna end up voting for Trump. And that's exactly what
Speaker 1: happened in two thousand sixteen, when all the people who
Speaker 1: couldn't stand Hillary but really weren't quite sure that they
Speaker 1: wanted Trump, and they got down to the last day
Speaker 1: or two they said, Okay, I'd much rather take the
Speaker 1: risk of Trump than have Hillary. And I think the
Speaker 1: same thing is happening here. If they were going to
Speaker 1: be for Biden, they're basically almost all there now, and
Speaker 1: the ones who aren't there are are wavering and feel
Speaker 1: deeply that there's something so profoundly wrong with Biden that
Speaker 1: even if they don't like Trump, they can't vote for Biden.
Speaker 1: And those folks, I think well overwhelmingly break for Trump,
Speaker 1: which is exactly what happened four years ago, when people
Speaker 1: who made their mind up the last three weeks overwhelmingly
Speaker 1: made their mind up for Trump over Hillary, and my
Speaker 1: predictions will see exactly the same thing this trip. That's
Speaker 1: a great point, Mr Speaker. Let's continue the conversation on
Speaker 1: the other side of the break. First, he is a
Speaker 1: word from our sponsor. That's interesting you said, and we're
Speaker 1: one day before the election, but you said undecided. That's
Speaker 1: interesting one day before the election you think there's still
Speaker 1: people who are undecided. And and it's a two pronged
Speaker 1: question here. You mentioned three whether electoral votes. I'm interested
Speaker 1: in knowing what you believe the Trump path the victory is.
Speaker 1: I think this was so the path to victors to
Speaker 1: get more votes through what states though, is what I'm
Speaker 1: referring to. From the electoral college. I think you can
Speaker 1: basically run the table. He has an outside chance, which
Speaker 1: I'm don't totally believe in picking up one one vote
Speaker 1: in Maine because the main like Nebraska, has a provision
Speaker 1: where East Congressional District has a vote. Last time, Trump
Speaker 1: got that vote. This time, I'm not convinced, but he might.
Speaker 1: But so that's when I put off to one side.
Speaker 1: I think that he will carry Pennsylvania. I think you'll
Speaker 1: carry North Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, Louisiana, Arkansas, Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska,
Speaker 1: North and South Dakota. I think Minnesota, for the first
Speaker 1: time since nineteen two, is going to become Trump. I
Speaker 1: think that the combination of the violence in the cities
Speaker 1: and the degree to which everybody outside the cities is
Speaker 1: just alienated for the Democrats and sees the Democrats. If
Speaker 1: you are a San Francisco Radical Kamala Harris. There is
Speaker 1: a place which is I think it's called Red Hat Minnesota,
Speaker 1: which has a bakery which has every four years had
Speaker 1: the two candidates and cookies, and they have consistently. I
Speaker 1: think that since seventy two they've picked the winning Canada
Speaker 1: based on the number of cookie sold. And this year
Speaker 1: there as I guess its red wing that read in
Speaker 1: red Wing Minnesota this year so far, as of about
Speaker 1: last Thursday, there was ten thousand Trump, three thousand Biden.
Speaker 1: So I know that sounds childish with probably I think
Speaker 1: Wisconsin is a dog fight. There's an absurd recent Washington
Speaker 1: Post a pole that said that Biden was seventeen points
Speaker 1: ahead in Wisconsin. That is totally impossible. Would be the
Speaker 1: equivalent of suggesting that will be twelve dinosaurs walking down
Speaker 1: the street in Madison. It's just not possible. It's an
Speaker 1: example of the left wing poles that are designed to
Speaker 1: make us feel bad and give up. So my guess
Speaker 1: is in the end that Trump will carry Wisconsin. He
Speaker 1: will then carry Michigan by a surprising margin, and we
Speaker 1: will elect John James, who was an extraordinarily attractive Senate Canada.
Speaker 1: We may also, by the way, elect Jason Lewis, who
Speaker 1: was Senate Canada in Minnesota. And again it's design on
Speaker 1: how that state is shifting that the Democrat incumbent senator
Speaker 1: cannot get above about these polls. While she's technically ahead
Speaker 1: of Jason, she can't get And there's a good there's
Speaker 1: a good rule that if you're the incumbent, the votes
Speaker 1: tend to break against you, and center races and House
Speaker 1: races not as true for the presidency for other reasons.
Speaker 1: So coming swinging back around Ohio, I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be solidly Trump. Missouri will be solidly Trump. Colorado. I'm
Speaker 1: afraid we may lose, which is really sad because we
Speaker 1: have a great candidate running for election there, and Corey Gardner,
Speaker 1: I hope he can. I think he'd have to run
Speaker 1: three or four points ahead of Trump to win. I
Speaker 1: hope he can do it as a great candidate, has
Speaker 1: been a great senator, and his opponent, former Governor hick
Speaker 1: and Looper, has some real weaknesses, both on ethics issues
Speaker 1: and on shown dealing with China. I think we will
Speaker 1: carry our Arizona and in the process, I think McSally
Speaker 1: will get reelected. She'll beat Mark Kelly. The astronauts, She's
Speaker 1: had four astronauts adores her against Kelly, and Kelly has
Speaker 1: a problem of doing business in China which has been
Speaker 1: eating him up. He has some other minor problems. New
Speaker 1: Mexico's one that's in my judgment up in the air.
Speaker 1: I was not have listed New Mexico except for Biden
Speaker 1: having come out on fracking and oil and gas. The
Speaker 1: southern third of New Mexico was very heavily oil and gas,
Speaker 1: and Trump is doing better with Hispanics everywhere, so it
Speaker 1: is conceivable, Mr Speaker. I don't know if I would
Speaker 1: agree that it's a long shot, especially I wrote a
Speaker 1: pile dot com which I encourage everyone to take a
Speaker 1: look at it and talk about the mysteries of election.
Speaker 1: In the hitting Trump vote, we've seen a real dollar
Speaker 1: of support for a President Trump among Blacks and Hispanics,
Speaker 1: Hispanic men and Black men. And he's over thirty I
Speaker 1: think it's thirty five percent when it comes to Hispanics,
Speaker 1: and we're talking about for a certain age group, those
Speaker 1: who are forty five and under, and certainly the dynamics
Speaker 1: have changed when it comes to black folks in general.
Speaker 1: Eight percent is what he got in of black men,
Speaker 1: and now we're looking at numbers well over twenty percent
Speaker 1: according to eight and I think those numbers are even
Speaker 1: higher if I'm being honest with you, just from the
Speaker 1: energy that I'm continuing the consistently here from the black community,
Speaker 1: I think that there is a desire to break the
Speaker 1: back of the Democratic Party, especially a young among young people,
Speaker 1: because Democrats has not been addressing the issues of the
Speaker 1: black community for a decade after decade, and you get
Speaker 1: a guy by the name of Donald Trump who comes
Speaker 1: around and says, what do you have to lose? And
Speaker 1: I often switched that around and say what do you
Speaker 1: have to gain? And we can talk about the policies.
Speaker 1: The first step back opportunity zones, et cetera. It appears
Speaker 1: that there's going to be something at least significant enough
Speaker 1: to make a difference coming out of these communities. Do
Speaker 1: you disagree with that? No? In fact, I'd be very
Speaker 1: curious before I tell you my analysis. What's the kind
Speaker 1: of language? What words do younger blacks, he used, when
Speaker 1: they talk to you about Trump and Biden? What are
Speaker 1: the descriptive words? Well, they like conlaining, when they liked
Speaker 1: these anti establishment They appreciate those things. When I hear
Speaker 1: from black folks on Joe Biden, they often talk about
Speaker 1: the ninety four crime bill. You ain't black if people
Speaker 1: remember that when he said, that's Charlemagne and godd a
Speaker 1: radio show host he said, if you have a problem
Speaker 1: figuring out if you're for me or for Trump, then
Speaker 1: you ain't black, which was incredibly insulting. But he said
Speaker 1: numerous other things that have been insulting to black folks
Speaker 1: over the years. He didn't want his kids to grow
Speaker 1: up in a racial jungle. It's a lot of things
Speaker 1: that he has said, which I think his candidacy is
Speaker 1: the supreme insult to black folks. Joe Biden. That is
Speaker 1: so it's really interesting to me how things are turning out,
Speaker 1: and I think personally I'm actually writing about this now. Finally,
Speaker 1: I think it would be great if Donald Trump won
Speaker 1: in part because of the dial ugue of support in
Speaker 1: the black community, which I think forces both parties did
Speaker 1: too come to the table and say here's our best deal.
Speaker 1: This Democrats, this is the best deal. Republicans, Now, who
Speaker 1: do you choose? We need to make the black vote
Speaker 1: competitive again, and it hasn't been since L B. J.
Speaker 1: Say do you have these? In words? Voting Democrats for
Speaker 1: over two hundred years. When I first arrived in Georgia
Speaker 1: in the nineteen sixty campaign of the African Americans in
Speaker 1: Atlanta voted Republican because the Democrats were the party of segregation.
Speaker 1: And then John F. Kennedy helped ed Martin Luther King Jr.
Speaker 1: Out Of prison in Albany, Georgia, and that galvanized the
Speaker 1: black community and literally in two years and had switched
Speaker 1: so that they were six Democrat two years later. So
Speaker 1: these things can happen if suddenly there's a conversation in
Speaker 1: the community. I'm told that Trump's answer at the debate
Speaker 1: when he and through the prison reform bill, he went
Speaker 1: through historically black colleges and universities, He went through help
Speaker 1: with eight thousand opportunity zones in poor neighborhoods, and and
Speaker 1: he walked through the unemployment level of the lowest level
Speaker 1: of unemployment in the history United States for African Americans
Speaker 1: was in February. And when you added all these things up,
Speaker 1: I am told that literally the next day there was
Speaker 1: about a twenty points shift in favorability. And you know
Speaker 1: that the media is negative against Trump. That's the reason.
Speaker 1: So he used his platform very well in that final debate.
Speaker 1: I think that's right, and I think that that's part
Speaker 1: of why I'm optimistic. I think again, you never really
Speaker 1: know these insen having been in lots of campaigns. When
Speaker 1: you're in the middle of a campaign, you're surrounded by
Speaker 1: people who agree with you, so you can very easily
Speaker 1: talk yourself into the idea that we're gonna win. And
Speaker 1: in fact those are only people immediately around you. It's
Speaker 1: a huge country. There, three million Americans, and so I
Speaker 1: might see thirty five people and think that's a cross section.
Speaker 1: I've always reminded of two stories about that. One is
Speaker 1: the candidate who is going around knocking on doors, and
Speaker 1: talking to voters, and he finally reaches this one door,
Speaker 1: and this guy shows up with a can of beer
Speaker 1: in his head, wearing a T shirt and looks down
Speaker 1: at him, and the guy says, uh, I am when
Speaker 1: I'm running for state legislature, And as guy's sort of
Speaker 1: bouches and says, you're really that guy? He said, that
Speaker 1: guy is such a stupid, unbelievably dumb I can't believe
Speaker 1: you're really him, and slams and slams the door, And
Speaker 1: so as the candidate walks off, he marks the bottle
Speaker 1: list undecided. When you're the candidate, you have such a
Speaker 1: will to be optimistic. The other JAPPO I had that
Speaker 1: Mike Deaver, who was Reagan's communications director. I used to
Speaker 1: tell the story that everyonece in a while Jim Baker
Speaker 1: would call him. Baker would was Reagan's chief of staff
Speaker 1: and then Sector of the Treasury in sect State, and
Speaker 1: Baker would collins. People were talking about maybe I should
Speaker 1: run for president, and Deever would say, flying first classy
Speaker 1: on our AGM, because people who flew first class would
Speaker 1: identify with Baker, whose earliest memory was waking up what
Speaker 1: heret by the rail road car but average everyday people.
Speaker 1: The people who elected Reagan had no clue who Baker
Speaker 1: was and didn't particularly want somebody who was an aristocratic
Speaker 1: lawyer from Houston to be the next president. So just
Speaker 1: an example of the psychology. So I may be suffering
Speaker 1: from it because I'm so intensely pro Trump, but my
Speaker 1: gut instinct is looking at and I look at data
Speaker 1: all day, every day, seven days. I think that there's
Speaker 1: a migration towards Trump right now. I think it's accelerating.
Speaker 1: The report on Thursday that we were at in Cree
Speaker 1: annualized increase and the gross domestic product that is such
Speaker 1: an enormous jump that it's very hard for me to
Speaker 1: look at that kind of data and not concluded. In
Speaker 1: the end, Trump's gonna win, and I think probably gonna
Speaker 1: win much bigger than anybody with you on that. And
Speaker 1: I'm just interested in your point of view on this
Speaker 1: because Democrats, I think every since you've been involved in policies,
Speaker 1: they've made every Republican just about to be a racist.
Speaker 1: They've often said that I grew up believing that, and
Speaker 1: so I learned the truth, and I begin to research
Speaker 1: for myself how big of a heart will race play
Speaker 1: in this race, because they really are riding and training
Speaker 1: on that thing all day long. I'm talking about the Democrats,
Speaker 1: and in terms of calling Donald Trump a racist, I
Speaker 1: think that the Democratic leadership is terrified they have used racists.
Speaker 1: Remember that up until the mid nine sixties, the Democrats
Speaker 1: were the party segregation, you know. So if you're gonna
Speaker 1: find about racist stuff through the nineties, six is Jim Crow,
Speaker 1: one of the one of the Democratic Senate leaders have
Speaker 1: been a leader in the ku Klux Klan and had
Speaker 1: a very eloquent statement about it by Joe Biden and
Speaker 1: how wonderful he was. Yea. So they couldn't attack us
Speaker 1: as racist during that prayer because they were literally the racist.
Speaker 1: And then they discovered that if they didn't have some
Speaker 1: new things, they needed tools to attack us with, and
Speaker 1: they needed tools that the would block the black community
Speaker 1: from thinking because the truth was, the Democratic leadership wasn't delivering.
Speaker 1: They weren't delivering on jobs, they weren't delivering on public safety,
Speaker 1: they weren't delivering on education reform, and they couldn't because
Speaker 1: their ideology and their interest groups basically had them in handcuffs.
Speaker 1: So they had to find some really powerful emotional attack
Speaker 1: which would allow them to scare everybody back together and
Speaker 1: they can say to you, all right, so we didn't
Speaker 1: get the pothole fixed in your street, but those other
Speaker 1: guys are racist, or yeah, the child down the street
Speaker 1: was shot in the drive by shooting, but those guys,
Speaker 1: other guys are racist. And their hope was that if
Speaker 1: you could yell racist long enough that it would let
Speaker 1: people would stop thinking. And what's happened. I think, I
Speaker 1: don't know how much this is Trump and almost it's
Speaker 1: just the natural end of a cycle. What what's begun
Speaker 1: to happen is people are saying, now, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to accept that all of these failures are because the
Speaker 1: people who aren't in charge, and all the people who
Speaker 1: are in charge should be re elected even though they're
Speaker 1: total failures. And that's beginning to lead, I think, to
Speaker 1: real tension in communities around the country as the younger
Speaker 1: people are really deeply dissatisfied with what they're saying, and
Speaker 1: they're saying to the old order, look, if you guys
Speaker 1: can't deliver, I'm not sticking with you, and that if
Speaker 1: I were a liberal Democrat right now, I would be
Speaker 1: terrified by the numbers that are seeing on both African Americans,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure that they are. We know when you
Speaker 1: mentioned young people who talk about Generation Z, that's twenty
Speaker 1: five million of them who have become voting age in
Speaker 1: this particular cycle. So there's a lot that's going on,
Speaker 1: and we've seen a high number of young folks that
Speaker 1: are are participating in this lunch election in the early vote.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this question. So in early votes,
Speaker 1: and we're talking about absentee votes, and say this the
Speaker 1: state of Pennsylvania, I think it was about eighty thousand
Speaker 1: of those this last primary. This year there was over
Speaker 1: one point five million, and now we're seeing what seventy
Speaker 1: million plus mail in votes that are going in. And
Speaker 1: of course people in about seven states they can change
Speaker 1: their votes. I think Michigan and Wisconsin are two of
Speaker 1: those states to the big screen stakes where they can
Speaker 1: change your vote. Are you concerned about voter fraud? And
Speaker 1: President Trump to said if he lose, that's going to
Speaker 1: be the reason because of voter fraud. Are you concerned
Speaker 1: about that? Yeah, I'm particularly concerned in Philadelphia, which is
Speaker 1: the center of voter theft in America. I'm concerned in Nevada,
Speaker 1: where the Democrat governor and legislature have changed the rules
Speaker 1: to make it almost impossible to have an effectively honest election.
Speaker 1: So there are places where I'm very concerned. I'm concerned
Speaker 1: in California, where they have really developed this whole ability
Speaker 1: to vote harvest, where you send people out and they
Speaker 1: basically say, look, I'll be glad to take your your
Speaker 1: ballot to the boat. You can imagine going to a
Speaker 1: nursing home and you've got fifties, sixty seventy people who
Speaker 1: really aren't paying much attention to the news anymore, and
Speaker 1: this nice guy comes in and offers to help them,
Speaker 1: and then that nice guy gets to mark the battles
Speaker 1: and that So that, to me, is a really impact
Speaker 1: on the election. Do you think it may? I think
Speaker 1: the challenge for Trump is to win big enough that
Speaker 1: they can't steal it, and that's that's a nation of
Speaker 1: the game. I think we've learned a lot of this.
Speaker 1: If in fact, we do win this year, will be
Speaker 1: much more aggressive and insisting on having honest elections and
Speaker 1: having honest accountability. And I would think that a newly
Speaker 1: re elected President Trump would have some kind of election.
Speaker 1: I would hope that he would, because it seems as
Speaker 1: that we can see some legitimate issues from here on out,
Speaker 1: because folks after this particular cycle are going to get
Speaker 1: comfortable voting by mail. I think, especially when you see
Speaker 1: the long lines tomorrow. If you're going to wait in
Speaker 1: line for ten hours to vote, then you may say
Speaker 1: forget it next time. I'm just gonna vote by mail.
Speaker 1: Mr Speaking. We have to take a quick break, but
Speaker 1: when we come back, I'm gonna ask you a few
Speaker 1: questions from some of our listeners. Please stick with us
Speaker 1: in this portion. Want to get to the questions from
Speaker 1: our listeners. I went on Twitter and social media in general,
Speaker 1: and I encourage everybody to follow, of course Speaker new
Speaker 1: Gangridge on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram, and of course me
Speaker 1: at Giano called Will on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook as well.
Speaker 1: And I put out a request to folks to send
Speaker 1: in questions because of course, when you have the great
Speaker 1: Speaker new Gangridge and your miss you want to get
Speaker 1: as much out of them as possible. As many questions
Speaker 1: Um answered, and I got a good question from Glenn
Speaker 1: and California and it reads, even if Trump wins, won't
Speaker 1: we still be facing the same problems as a country
Speaker 1: in how do we correct course at Americans want to
Speaker 1: change their country. I think, look, you have to face
Speaker 1: the fact that this is gonna go on for a while,
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna have to develop new solutions to
Speaker 1: deal with new challenges. I suspect it will be a
Speaker 1: bill next year that will make it necessary for people
Speaker 1: who want to fun terrorism and who want to fund
Speaker 1: violence and looting, that they've got a file that where
Speaker 1: the money comes from, and that I think people will
Speaker 1: be a great shock to some people. I suspect, in
Speaker 1: the long run, will make it illegal to fund a
Speaker 1: group who overtly wants to go out and either kill
Speaker 1: police or burn up neighborhoods, et cetera. Will I say
Speaker 1: that's an unacceptable approach. But there's a professor George Mason,
Speaker 1: which is a generally conservative school, who has been arguing
Speaker 1: that we're going to have an insurrection against the government
Speaker 1: that comes very close to treason and a certainly sedition.
Speaker 1: And I think that you'll see us get much tougher
Speaker 1: as a country just in defending ourselves, because these people
Speaker 1: are gonna be so radical they won't give us any
Speaker 1: choice except the defenders. Yeah, I agree with your assessment there.
Speaker 1: I got another question here actually directed it me from
Speaker 1: Debbian Mayor Land, and it reads, if Trump wins, what
Speaker 1: should he and his cabinet do to grow the number
Speaker 1: of African American Republicans into a real movement. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give my thoughts, but also would be interested in what
Speaker 1: you have to say, speaker, So Debbie in Maryland, here's
Speaker 1: my thoughts. It's been an interesting rod and a way
Speaker 1: that Black Americans have been educated on the history of
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party, and as of late, I think we've
Speaker 1: seen a number of young people have really dialed into
Speaker 1: that history and now they can see the distinctions between
Speaker 1: both parties, which is good news because the Republican Party
Speaker 1: started in eighteen fifty four was in opposition to the
Speaker 1: Cans of Nebraska Act, which wants to expand slavery, and
Speaker 1: Republicans have been a part of every civil rights bill since,
Speaker 1: so since they started as a party, and we saw
Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves, and we saw even LB
Speaker 1: J's Civil Rights Bill, it was Republicans in the Senate
Speaker 1: that helped pushed it forward. So I would say in
Speaker 1: terms of Donald Trump, who has paid an enormous amount
Speaker 1: of energy and attention to the black community. We've seen
Speaker 1: groups like blex It, We've seen groups who are leaving
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party in droves. People are absolutely waking up.
Speaker 1: And what I would say, whether win or lose by
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, the Republican Party should absolutely pick up the
Speaker 1: baton and continue to invest in communities like they did
Speaker 1: with the Kimberly clay Stick of Baltimore and by the way,
Speaker 1: she's been on allow with Gianno called wills to check
Speaker 1: out that episode, and they should continue to invest in
Speaker 1: places where we normally don't see Republicans. You can't say
Speaker 1: we should change the party if you're not investing in
Speaker 1: the actual change. So those are my thoughts. What do
Speaker 1: you think, speaker, I think, first of all, this is
Speaker 1: so one of the things you're not going to see
Speaker 1: in the elite media. There are forty three a African
Speaker 1: American Canadates for Congress this year in the Republican Party,
Speaker 1: a number of whom are clearly gonna win. So we'll
Speaker 1: have the largest delegation of African Americans and the Republican
Speaker 1: Party since reconstruction. We also, I think I personally believe
Speaker 1: John j is gonna win in Michigan. I wish we'll
Speaker 1: give us our second African American senator. I think we
Speaker 1: have a whole new generation of talent coming along that
Speaker 1: I think is very exciting, and of course you're part
Speaker 1: of that. As part of why we were so excited
Speaker 1: to set up these podcasts because we really think that
Speaker 1: we're right at the custom of a moment to have
Speaker 1: new conversations with new people, approaching things in new ways,
Speaker 1: and you certainly fit that in every possible way. And
Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to the kind of guests you're
Speaker 1: going to bring forward, the kind of education you're going
Speaker 1: to offer people who listen to the podcast. I'm very
Speaker 1: optimistic now. I also happen to think that the eyes
Speaker 1: are much better that Trump will get reelected than people think.
Speaker 1: So I'm very comfortable facing what I'm doing on a premise,
Speaker 1: and then I would say, in seven out of ten features,
Speaker 1: he's the next president. That's Those are some rate odds.
Speaker 1: And I've been seeing you all over the channel, which
Speaker 1: were both colleagues over a Fox News channel, really providing
Speaker 1: an explanation, and it just always begs the question, how
Speaker 1: could the polls be so flawed? I understand why they
Speaker 1: were flawed in because posters only pulled people who voted
Speaker 1: in the previous two elections. Now you have an enormous
Speaker 1: amount of people who have come out to support Trump
Speaker 1: and said, now there's a bit of an update. And
Speaker 1: I'm hearing that there's even more folks who didn't vote
Speaker 1: in the previous election that have came out. They didn't vote,
Speaker 1: so than technically three elections that that are out. Now,
Speaker 1: how do you think the polls are so flawed? I
Speaker 1: think the polls are flawed partially because they and I
Speaker 1: want to draw a section there. There are four or
Speaker 1: five polls that I can recommend that I think are
Speaker 1: actually pretty good. Trafalgar is one of the Susquehannas. Another
Speaker 1: one insider advantage was the third one. I would say
Speaker 1: rasmuson about eighty percent of the time tends to be
Speaker 1: pretty good. Zogby about eighty percent of the time is
Speaker 1: pretty good. The Institute of Democracy, which is a joint
Speaker 1: British American operation, is pretty good. So I look at those,
Speaker 1: and then I look at things like which party has
Speaker 1: registered more people? And you find in almost every state
Speaker 1: that in the last four years we've registered more Republicans
Speaker 1: and Democrats. I'm looking at things now when we're just
Speaker 1: a day out and I have analyzing who's actually already
Speaker 1: voted well turned out in state after state. We are
Speaker 1: doing much better and we were in sixteen. And that
Speaker 1: doesn't mean we're always out voting the Democrats, but it
Speaker 1: means that the margin of their advantage is smaller. And
Speaker 1: then I would say that there are two huge problems
Speaker 1: with the what I'll call the socially liberal posters. The
Speaker 1: first is that they refuse to try to find ways
Speaker 1: of identifying people who will not tell you the truth.
Speaker 1: When you have a candadate who is being attacked by
Speaker 1: the news media relentlessly, people just won't tell you they're
Speaker 1: gonna vote for, but they'll go vote for. And interestingly,
Speaker 1: the University of Southern California, LA Times people figured out
Speaker 1: if they ask you what are your neighbors, what are
Speaker 1: your neighbors likely to do? And if they ask you,
Speaker 1: who do you think is likely to win? And then
Speaker 1: they take those two as indicators of how you would
Speaker 1: vote if you're being honest. They've done this now for
Speaker 1: about twelve years, and they consistently get more accurate than
Speaker 1: just saying who are you going to vote for? And
Speaker 1: they just came out last week and said that they
Speaker 1: believe Trump will carry the Electrical College and be real licted.
Speaker 1: So there are a lot of things moving in that direction.
Speaker 1: But part of my answer is I read endlessly. I
Speaker 1: try to read everything I can find, and I'm always
Speaker 1: open to some idea or some piece of data that
Speaker 1: shakes up my preconceptions because the world's big and precated.
Speaker 1: And now thank you for that, and I got I know,
Speaker 1: we gotta let you go. But I got one last
Speaker 1: question from the listeners is this one comes from Joey
Speaker 1: in Chicago, and it reads, in the state of the
Speaker 1: country where you see black men who are shot unarmed,
Speaker 1: what is it that we can do the whole law
Speaker 1: enforcement more accountable? And I got some thoughts on that,
Speaker 1: especially when we're talking about police reform. Was Senator Tim
Speaker 1: Scott certainly put forth from the Democrats blocked this so
Speaker 1: they can continue that they can run on it for
Speaker 1: this particular election, which was extraordinarily insane to me. And
Speaker 1: it shows you that black lives don't matter the Democrats.
Speaker 1: Black votes do. And I'm really interested in getting your
Speaker 1: take on this, speaker, because I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people are concerned. I'm not talking about like a situation
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia which happened last week where you had the
Speaker 1: young man with the knife that was launching at the
Speaker 1: two police officers that shot him, or the guy in
Speaker 1: Atlanta where you had he had a taser, he got
Speaker 1: the taser from the police officer and shot him. Not
Speaker 1: those instances, but legitimate instances where police did the wrong thing.
Speaker 1: How do you hold those individuals accountable? Is it legislatively
Speaker 1: or what do we do? I think that the key
Speaker 1: to that is to recognize that you have to be
Speaker 1: vigilant as a citizen, and the citizens have to come together.
Speaker 1: And part of the just just said don't feed me
Speaker 1: belowe me. I watched this interview in front of the U. S.
Speaker 1: Senate where the head of Twitter came in and the
Speaker 1: stuff he was saying was just crazy, totally dishonest, and
Speaker 1: finally Ted Cruz, the Center from Texas, couldn't take it
Speaker 1: anymore and it broke in and been slight violation of
Speaker 1: Senate language rules, said, who in the hell do you
Speaker 1: think you are? You're not an elective official. You nobody
Speaker 1: gave you this power or this authority. I think all
Speaker 1: of us, and I'll tell you, we've been living through
Speaker 1: a public health dictatorship. And I think presently people are
Speaker 1: gonna start standing up for their rights. Gonna say, wait
Speaker 1: a second. Under the First Amendment, I have the right
Speaker 1: to protest, I have the right to petition. I have
Speaker 1: the right to assemble. I have the right to free speech.
Speaker 1: I have the right to religion. And I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: let any governor use some excuse to take away my
Speaker 1: constitution liberty were we are very few months away from
Speaker 1: that becoming a move, but much bigger in terms of
Speaker 1: holding police accountable. Is that a legislative move? Is it
Speaker 1: should that happen in the vehicle? No, that is let
Speaker 1: me draw a dissension. First of all, I think individuals
Speaker 1: have to hold people accountable. Second, I believe every policeman
Speaker 1: should be wearing a body camera, and I think that
Speaker 1: should be integral to their job, and that we should
Speaker 1: have an automatic ability to review an incident and try
Speaker 1: to figure out what it really happened. And I think
Speaker 1: if people if that were done quickly, because one of
Speaker 1: our problems now is because of defense attorneys and various
Speaker 1: court decisions, it takes too long to get to the facts,
Speaker 1: and we need to have some ability within a few
Speaker 1: hours so that communities begin to relax and say they're
Speaker 1: actually going to come out and tell us the truth.
Speaker 1: You've got to have video before the rioting starts, and
Speaker 1: you got to say give us three hours or give
Speaker 1: us four hours. We're going to report to you. But
Speaker 1: you can't say give us seven weeks. People just want time.
Speaker 1: Then the other thing. I think. The other thing is
Speaker 1: if I can be so blunt as an older white guy,
Speaker 1: the black community has got to stand up and say,
Speaker 1: if somebody is approaching a policeman with a gun or
Speaker 1: a knife, they're putting their own life in danger. So
Speaker 1: it's not just so it's not this one sided policeman
Speaker 1: shot a man last night. Well, yes, he's a man
Speaker 1: who was coming at them with a knife, who had
Speaker 1: openly said he wanted to kill some policeman. And Frank
Speaker 1: of the cops are probably scared, speaker. And what I'm
Speaker 1: hearing you say, I get you loud and clear. I
Speaker 1: think President, uh, not President maybe President one day. Tim Scott,
Speaker 1: Senator Tim Scott his his legislation on police would provide
Speaker 1: exactly that body cams and that would be a great
Speaker 1: vehicle for common the community and ensuring that there's justice
Speaker 1: for all. Thank you for your analysis on that, and
Speaker 1: I want to thank you for coming on out loud
Speaker 1: with Giano Calls well, and certainly for believing in me
Speaker 1: as I mentioned, and bringing a providing a platform for
Speaker 1: me to get my thoughts out and bring folks in
Speaker 1: who are very distinguished like yourself, to get their thoughts
Speaker 1: on the national dialogue, whether it be politics, culture or
Speaker 1: just a fun topic. I'm very thankful to you and
Speaker 1: Miss Debbie Meyers, my other executive producer jo. I'm very
Speaker 1: impressed with how well you're doing. I'm very excited by
Speaker 1: what you're doing and everything we can do to be
Speaker 1: helpful Speaker of the House of Representatives back in the nineties,
Speaker 1: Speaker new Ganglish, thank you, thank you so much and
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