1 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I m Jay Lowens, Matt Leaves 5 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: and uh, it's don't just any Friday. 6 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're in Pittsburgh, Matt. 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 2: It is rookie Minni Camp Friday. 8 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 3: It is rookie Mini Camp Friday. There's like football going on. 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 2: There was actual well I mean it's stretching going on 10 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: and that nature. But yeah, the Steelers had their their 11 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: rookie mini camp today, the first day of it, and 12 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 2: uh we get to see uh Troy Fatanu work at 13 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 2: right tackle. 14 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 3: Nice. According to Troy Fatan, that's the plan, apparently. 15 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: At least to start. I get to make sense to 16 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: the left right. 17 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 3: I think that's what you want big picture. And the 18 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 3: Dan Moore thing kind of clouds it because he's only 19 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 3: a left But I think that's the best five, you 20 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 3: know what I mean. 21 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, Now they could tell Dan Moore, hey, you're gonna 22 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 2: switch over to the to the right side. 23 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 3: I'd tell him he's gonna take some tracks. You know 24 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 3: you're gonna. 25 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: Because Okay, let's say, for example, let's say they do 26 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: what happen to want to slow play things m HM 27 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: with with with Fatano, would. 28 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 3: You move Broderick back to right? 29 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: And you probably want You probably want a more experienced player, 30 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: which is Dan Moore starting those first few games on 31 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: the on the right side, you know, but or if 32 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: it's gets hurt and if more is going to be 33 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: on the roster, if he's not the starter, he's your 34 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 2: swing tackle, so he better be able to play both sides. 35 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 3: That's what I said. I think it's get the young 36 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 3: guys where their best for the next ten years. You know. 37 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 3: It kind of reminds me of like what going to 38 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 3: the left side, you know, like make him as comfortable 39 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 3: as possible and frankly the lesser players can adapt or 40 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: we'll find someone that will, you know what I mean. 41 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 2: It's funny that you say it that way because if 42 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: you think about back to the whole TJ whatat flipping 43 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 2: side the free Yeah, they made that decision coming out 44 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: of that. Are you picking one prospect over the other 45 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 2: because both both those guys were first round draft picks 46 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 2: In this instance, both guys first round draft picks. Yeah, 47 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: are you saying, well, we think this guy's better on 48 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 2: the left side, or we think he's the better prospects, 49 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 2: so we want to make we want to make him 50 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: more comfortable. 51 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know. I mean again, they're 52 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 3: both natural lefts. You know, the two first round picks. Well, 53 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 3: I guess more than three lefts. I mean in reality, Yeah, 54 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 3: back to more real quick like, I think you tell 55 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 3: him you're going to play fifty percent snaps, fifty percent 56 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 3: snaps right, get used to it. If that's a problem, 57 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 3: so be it. We'll go searching for somebody else, or 58 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 3: Dylan Cook will be the right or whatever. But the 59 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 3: fact that you're only playing left hinders us. You know, 60 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 3: that's not not going to cut it. 61 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: Well. I think for his long term prognosis in the 62 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 2: league as well, it would be hove him to go 63 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 2: along way to show he could play both sides. I think, yeah, 64 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 2: I think then he maybe cash is in next year. 65 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 3: Sure that a minimum is a swing or somebody starter. Yeah, 66 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 3: you know, if. 67 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 2: He shows he can play on either side, go a 68 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: long way, probably he's probably somebody's starter next year. 69 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 3: Probably buy some years in the league and millions of dollars. Yeah, 70 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 3: I mean, it shouldn't be a tough sell. Then he's 71 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 3: actually done some. I mean we act like he's never 72 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 3: has no clue what to do over there. I mean, 73 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 3: he has taken snaps there. But I guess back to 74 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 3: your question, if you're picking between first round picks of 75 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 3: who to make happier, I don't know. I guess you 76 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 3: stick with the incumbent. 77 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess one guy's been here a 78 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 2: little longer. But they can do that case with Dupree. 79 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 3: True, and what right, right, right? But what was clearly 80 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 3: the better player? I think that one was just make 81 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 3: him as happy as possible. And I also thought Bud 82 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 3: was better against Finesse left tackles. You know his power. 83 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 3: I think, you know, played well on the right side, 84 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 3: you know, Flint airs. But it is something that's interesting. 85 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 3: You knew someone was going to have to play right tackle. 86 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 3: I guess maybe the guy that's adjusting the league is 87 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 3: the best one to just keep adjusting, you know, and 88 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 3: start out. I mean, I hope that don't go back 89 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 3: and forth. 90 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 2: We kind of talked about this pre draft. In the 91 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 2: pre draft process, where Roger Jones lines up at would 92 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 2: have lined up at in this group of offensive tag 93 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 2: Maybe he was smart coming out. 94 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 3: Like Oh, as you were saying, like, where would he 95 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 3: have been drafted this year? 96 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, because remember you're talking about a guy when he 97 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: came out last year, only had fifteen career starts under 98 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 2: his belt, all right, there were questions about him kind 99 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: of the same way, whether we're about Geiton or Amarius 100 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 2: Mims this year. 101 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would think he would have headed both of them, 102 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 3: just because he had more tape and I would say 103 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 3: more traits than Geiton. Maybe not more traits than Mems, 104 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 3: but certainly more experienced than Mems. I mean, at a minimum, 105 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 3: I think he goes in that neighborhood. Yeah, it's a 106 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 3: little bit eye of the beholder too. I mean, probably 107 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 3: would have helped him in this class that he he's 108 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 3: a left were talking about a year ago. I mean, 109 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 3: he was like he had only played left and there 110 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 3: weren't a lot less than this one, you know, even 111 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 3: like Filaga might be going to left for the Saints 112 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 3: and Steelers, and yeah, I mean so and altis the 113 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 3: leftist going to the right. He couldn't we have done 114 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 3: this better, you know? 115 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 2: But yeah, I just I mean I think in the 116 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: case of f Waga or no, I'm sorry, he had 117 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: played right tackle in high school all the I think, 118 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 2: all the way through, so. 119 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 3: At least he has done the footwork and then you know, 120 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 3: and so you know, I. 121 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 2: Think he probably has more experience on the right side 122 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 2: than Broderick Jones did. 123 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 3: Although broder Jones are pretty good at doing it in 124 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 3: the NFL. Yeah, you know, I think if subject. 125 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 2: He has, if he had his brothers, he would be 126 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: on the left side. He just I think he has more, 127 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: way more experience on that side as opposed to the right, 128 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 2: whereas I don't think it matters as much to Fatano. 129 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 3: I think that's a big key. And then that comes 130 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 3: down to Tomlin to me. You know, like if Tomlin 131 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 3: goes to Broderick last year and be like, we're kind 132 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 3: of in a pinch here, Bud, can you go to 133 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 3: the right side, and he's a team guy, He's like, sure, 134 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 3: with all intentions of putting you back at left. 135 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I mean, what's to play? 136 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 3: It was a play, right, So I mean in that situation, 137 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 3: everyone wins, but you don't want to go against your 138 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 3: word or you know, the handshake agreement you made last year. 139 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 3: And if the new guy doesn't care, then put Jones 140 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 3: where you told him, he's gonna play, you know, I mean, 141 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 3: I think that's the smart move. The only thing that's 142 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 3: sticking point, which it really isn't, is the More thing, 143 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 3: because More is not going to beat out Jones. Might 144 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 3: he beat out the rookie beat out is probably the 145 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 3: wrong word, but he maybe he would start the year 146 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 3: like you know, Jones did not last year. But again 147 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 3: he better learn right tackle. Yeah, and that's your job 148 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 3: this offse. 149 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 2: And if it's not him, is it a Dylan Cook 150 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 2: right right? Possibly that's that's potential as well. I do think, 151 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 2: you know, both of the both of those young offensive 152 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 2: linemen have an opportunity to start. Yeah, yeah, you know, 153 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 2: it's just going to be a matter of whether or not. 154 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 3: You don't think it's a set in stone Steeler thing 155 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 3: that rookies aren't going to start the season. 156 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 2: No, I think it depends on the rookie. 157 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 158 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 2: I think position matters in that case as well. And 159 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 2: I think last year with Jones in particular, again you're 160 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 2: talking about a player who had fifteen career college starts 161 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 2: under his belt. That's not even a full NFL season too. Yeah, 162 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: who's got you know, twenty nine starts just at left 163 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 2: tackle or you know Frasier, who's got you know, fifty 164 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 2: starts at center. 165 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 3: I mean even just the number of past sets. I mean, 166 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 3: Washington through the ball seventy times a game, you know, 167 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 3: I mean he has a lot of experience and protection 168 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 3: where Jones didn't, Mims didn't. 169 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 2: And they're older players as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, 170 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 2: whereas Porter. You know, last year Jones and Porter were 171 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 2: both young players. They both came out early. 172 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you brought this up. Maybe it was Monday, 173 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 3: or it probably was even last week. We were talking 174 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 3: about this class as a whole and how experienced it is. 175 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 3: Maybe it's a little older, and I kind of brushed 176 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 3: it off a little like this entire draft was old. 177 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 3: But I thought about it a lot since then, and 178 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 3: I'm not sure if it's going to be more of 179 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 3: a Steeler philosophy, because they definitely like their young guys. 180 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 3: But the league now, with the CBA, it's really hard 181 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 3: to develop players. So if you don't have the time 182 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 3: on the time anymore, so I wonder if you're taking 183 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 3: a league wide stance or even a Steeler stance that Okay, 184 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 3: here's a year older, but he needs a little less 185 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 3: polished before I throw him in the game. And I 186 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 3: think cbas are bad for development playoff. 187 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 2: I think as well, Matt, that if you're going to 188 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 2: take a guy day two or later, you're going to 189 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 2: get that rookie contract at them, you're getting four years. 190 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 2: And what we have seen in recent the last couple 191 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 2: of years, when guys sign extensions or when they sign 192 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 2: a new contract, they're not the four and five year deals. 193 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 3: That they used to know, No they woult to hit 194 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 3: a third time. 195 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: They're they're three year deals. And so all right, now 196 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 2: you got seven years out of the player as opposed 197 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 2: to the eight or nine that you thought you would 198 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: have got under the old CBA rule. And maybe that's 199 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 2: just a new adjustment to that that that hey, we 200 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 2: got to everyone's playing, Yeah, this is this is we 201 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 2: get a figure instead of figuring we're gonna have the 202 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 2: guy for eight or ten years. 203 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 3: If he's a hit. 204 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 2: If he's a hit, yeah, we're gonna look at seven 205 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,719 Speaker 2: as being the magic number, or eight, seven or eight 206 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 2: being that Now. 207 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 3: That number probably true. I mean, unless it's a Walt 208 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 3: or a Hayward or a lifer. You know, you and 209 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 3: those guys don't come around every day. And even then 210 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 3: Dallas is are they gonna be able to keep Lamb, 211 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 3: Prescott and Parsons for more than seven? 212 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 2: You know, right right, because you're not going to give 213 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 2: him a third contract, right right? 214 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 3: You know? 215 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 2: And and you know, I think some of that's also 216 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 2: we've seen that trickle down with the new CBA with 217 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 2: the quarterback position, where we're seeing guys in Previously, it 218 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 2: wasn't that big of a deal. It wasn't a stretch 219 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 2: to see a quarterback taking it. Maybe there's one one 220 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 2: taking at one, and then the next quarterback doesn't go 221 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 2: until eight, and then the next quarterback goes at fourteen 222 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 2: and things. So the quarterbacks were spread all the way 223 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 2: throughout the draft. Now, if you're a quarterback and you're 224 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 2: considered a even a high second round type guy, you're 225 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 2: getting drafted in the top fifteen. 226 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 3: Picks, the mad rush to get the beanie baby. 227 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 2: You know, yes, because of the way the CBA is 228 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 2: with these guys. A if you're going to draft a quarterback, 229 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 2: you want the fifth year option. 230 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 3: Yeah that I get. 231 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 2: I mean, you don't want the four years, but it's 232 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 2: cost controlled quarterback play. Whereas it used to be every 233 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 2: quarterback who was drafted. You know, if you if you 234 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 2: went with the first overall pick or the second or 235 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 2: fourth or fifth, whatever it was, you immediately became the 236 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 2: highest paid player team. 237 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 3: I remember Sam Bradford. Yeah, and that's that's a terrible structure. 238 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 3: I mean, that wasn't Bradford's fault. Yeah. 239 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 2: I mean, so if you were looking at let's say 240 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 2: a second round type quarterback Chad Pennington, where you were 241 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,359 Speaker 2: looking at the guy this year Bo Knicks for example, Yeah, yeah, 242 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: you'd say, well, we're gonna wait and take him in 243 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 2: the second round because we're not gonna we don't want 244 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 2: to pay him that kind of money. We'll pay him 245 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 2: a second round money to be maybe the maybe the future. 246 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 2: But now they don't long the money is basically the same. 247 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what you're saying. 248 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 2: And you get the fifty year option on that guy, 249 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 2: so it you know, it's cost efficient to take the 250 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 2: quarterback early. 251 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 3: Even like looking at like the to Herbert Burrough class, 252 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 3: like to me, the Chargers and Bengals, and no hesitation 253 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 3: paying Burwer Burrow and Herbert this is a hit. He's 254 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 3: a home run. But if you're Miami, I want to 255 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 3: drag my feet as long as possible on to him. 256 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 3: You know what I mean that went that that extra 257 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 3: year at least gives me one more year of data, 258 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 3: or one more year to draft a guy or whatever, 259 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 3: you know, make more plans because I'm not sure. 260 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 2: But it's it's not the it's not the killer that 261 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 2: it used to be. To take a quarterback in the 262 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 2: first round. 263 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 3: It was horrible. I mean, looking back on Dum you know. 264 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:52,359 Speaker 2: Paying the Sam Bradford, Dante Culpepper, these guys. 265 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 3: The guys a miss. Yeah, the guys miss all the 266 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 3: time at that position. 267 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 2: And he's you were paying him a bunch of money. 268 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 2: You were married to the guy. 269 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're has to be some human nature to 270 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 3: it too. That if hypothetical. The Steelers picked first overall 271 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 3: next year under those rules, and you picked Joe blow 272 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 3: hotshot quarterback and Cam Hayward and Watt look at him 273 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 3: like he's making a lot more than me. Yeah, he's 274 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 3: done a thing. 275 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 2: He never can never played it down, never played down. 276 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 3: And it's not the kids fault. 277 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: Whereas now, I mean, the kid's making he's making good money, 278 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 2: but he's not making more money than your stars. 279 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 3: He's not making any more. I mean, he's making less 280 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 3: than the guard that got picked of him too. It's 281 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 3: not a quarterback thing either, right, No, it's just you 282 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 3: know slotted. 283 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it works. It's much better that in that regard. 284 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 2: But it does force the quarterbacks. I think it pushes 285 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 2: them up the board a little bit. 286 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. Like, I still can't approve of Kroen moving from 287 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 3: thirty three to thirty two just to get a fifth 288 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 3: year option on legat because the chance you're using it 289 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 3: are probably like twenty five percent. I mean it probably. 290 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 3: I know it didn't cost him a time, and maybe 291 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 3: they were just love, love, love that player. But if 292 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 3: you just moved up just to get the fifth year option, 293 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm just giving the draft. 294 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 2: Unless they thought, you know, whoever was at thirty two 295 00:12:59,160 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: was going to take. 296 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 3: Him, I'm saying if they were thought he was by 297 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 3: far the best one on the board. A ton of 298 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 3: receivers went right in that neighborhood, you know, did is 299 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 3: he the one they had to have? Okay, I mean 300 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 3: that's like trading up a pick for McCarthy. I get that, 301 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 3: But if you're only trading up to get the fifth 302 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 3: year option at non quarterback spots, history showing us pretty 303 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 3: quickly that most of them don't get picked up and 304 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 3: that doesn't have as much value. 305 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 2: Yeah I have. I'm just looking here real quick at that. 306 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 2: So they moved up to get They traded with. 307 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 3: Buffalo, Buffalo traded twice, They traded with KC, and then 308 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 3: they traded with Caroline. 309 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 2: So yeah, I think if you're Carolina, you're going, Okay, 310 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 2: we want Legeto. 311 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 3: Buffalo ton of receivers win that neighborhood. 312 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 2: But Buffalo also we know Buffalo is in the wide 313 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 2: receiver market. 314 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 3: And of course, of course, so. 315 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 2: I think that was probably as much a reason why 316 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 2: they moved up as anything. 317 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 3: So a lot of people they are really hard on Buffalo. 318 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 3: How could you possibly give the chiefs Xavier Worthy? Well, 319 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 3: if they thought Xavier Worthy was the best receiver on 320 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 3: the board, they would have taken them right, you know, 321 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 3: like they probably looked at that like we're gonna trade 322 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 3: down twice because there's five guys I like maybe Pierce 323 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 3: All they like Justice. 324 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 2: Well, maybe they moved back to thirty two thinking okay, 325 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 2: we'll take the guy we want here, and in Carolina 326 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 2: calls and said, we'll give you a little bit more. 327 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 3: Okay, there's two. We love Coleman toll work just fine. 328 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, well maybe they like mconkey as well, and said 329 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 2: there's story here that we'll we would take and Arvan Polk. 330 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 3: Didn't go that much further. Right, there was a ton 331 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 3: of receivers in that neighborhood and if they had them 332 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 3: all in the same neighborhood, yeah, give us a couple 333 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 3: of picks, we'll move down twice. 334 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's all part of it. Yeah, Yeah, anyways, 335 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 2: let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson. 336 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here on 337 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more right after 338 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 2: this this. 339 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 340 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and 341 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: GOLDNR Steelers Nation Radio. 342 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale LOLLI he is 343 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and Matt Matt Bowen at ESPN. I'll 344 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 2: put together a list of the best rookie team fits 345 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 2: in perfect landspots. 346 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 3: I saw it but didn't go through it yet. 347 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 2: Cool, so let's take out Yeah, let's take a look 348 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 2: at that. It split up in the Day one players, 349 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 2: and in Day two and three players he goes a 350 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 2: little bit deeper. 351 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 3: Kayla Williams. 352 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, well his first one is jayde and 353 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 2: Daniels at two to Washington. 354 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 3: I get it. I mean they're uh the offensive coordinator 355 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 3: was the head coach for Kingsbury. I's got the name 356 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 3: with Arizona with Kyler, I think they have a little 357 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 3: more to work with than Kyler did in terms of 358 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 3: receivers and the surrounding cast. But I do think a 359 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 3: lot of the quarterback running stuff will may be a 360 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 3: good fit for him that way too. 361 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 2: I think he's a sneaky pick to me as rookie 362 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 2: of the Year. 363 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 3: Oh I could see that. Yeah, it could be like 364 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 3: two years. 365 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 2: This could be two years in a row where the 366 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 2: second quarterback taken. I'll perform, Yeah, the number one. 367 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 3: Especially when fantasy matters of that kind of stuff. You know, 368 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 3: like I'd rather have him in fantasy than Caleb Oh yeah, 369 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 3: and you know so to me, if he's an every 370 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 3: week starter in fantasy and Williams is the sixteenth quarterback 371 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 3: or whatever, I bet he gets more votes. I do 372 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 3: think the Bears will probably win more games. 373 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: Also plays He also plays in the NFC East, which 374 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 2: means he's going to get a lot of the games. 375 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 2: You're gonna see Gas against the Cowboys, the New York 376 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 2: Mark is going to get see him a couple of times. 377 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 2: And yeah, that's kinda that that matters in those things 378 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 2: if he plays well in those. 379 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 3: When the weather hits in Chicago, not the Washington's sunny 380 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 3: and beautiful and just in Chicago, it's nicer than Chicago. 381 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 2: One of the reasons, one of the many reasons that 382 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 2: Chicago has never had a great quarterback it was the environment. 383 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 2: The environment, it's not conducive of the great quarterback play. 384 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 3: That is part of the reason. Yes, I think some 385 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 3: of that is, well, maybe it's the organization. I mean, 386 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 3: it's easy to say, boy, Mitch was a terrible pick, 387 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 3: Fields was a terrible pick. All these guys, and it's like, 388 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 3: maybe it's not you, it's me, you know. 389 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 2: The second one here is Roma Dounza to those bears. 390 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 3: I'm not here to talk fifty, but it reminds me 391 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 3: a lot of Smith Njigba, where he looks like he's blocked. 392 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 3: But year two could be awesome, you know. Learning from 393 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 3: Keenan Allen and dealing with a lot of single coverage 394 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 3: this year. Yeah, we don't know how. I think he's 395 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 3: gonna be a Bear for one year. I think he's 396 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 3: a free agent after the year, so I mean he's 397 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 3: a rental. 398 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy at ten to the Vikings. 399 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 3: I kind of feel like any of the quarterbacks to 400 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 3: the Vikings was a goods going to work out. 401 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, you got great, great targets. 402 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you got tackles. 403 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 2: He's got a good offensive line. 404 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think the coach is a legit quarterback guy. 405 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. His next one is Byron Murphy to the Seahawks 406 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 2: at sixteen. 407 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 3: Matta Bouque. 408 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 409 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's gonna be the new version of that. 410 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 3: I think that makes all the sense in the world. 411 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 3: The linemen around him are decent. Yeah, he's a good spot. 412 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, then you have it twenty Troy Fatanu. 413 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, I bet that one's more attitude. You know, 414 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 3: that's kind of what he says. He's sounds. You know. 415 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 2: Fatana can play multiple positions on the offensive line, but 416 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 2: he's slated to start a tackle opposite Roger Jones and Pittsburgh. 417 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 3: He says, let me stop you real quick. I apologize, 418 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 3: but we talked this to death the first the first segment, 419 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 3: But every sentence or every paragraph about him is he 420 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 3: can play a lot of positions. Steals what the podium 421 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 3: says attacking. He's a thousand times you know what I mean, 422 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 3: like play it. I mean it's that he is a tackle. 423 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 2: I mean, I I don't see any situation here. I mean, 424 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 2: I guess it could happen where there are two starting 425 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 2: guards in twenty twenty five, are Fortanu and Mason McCormick. 426 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 3: Probably not. I mean I can see one of the two. 427 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 3: I mean, if Daniels is really expensive or even there's 428 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 3: an unbelievable tackle prospect where you pick and you say, well, 429 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 3: why don't you bump into guard and we'll be awesome 430 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,239 Speaker 3: across the board. I mean, but I know the thing 431 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 3: with Mason your point, I agree. 432 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 2: They gave Mason McCormick number sixty six. 433 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 3: He's still my new favorite. 434 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 2: They gave him number sixty six. 435 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, Alan Fanica, Uh, And you're you know if a 436 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 4: de Castro, you can even go back to Bruce Vandyke 437 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 4: and you know Ted Peterson wore sixty six. 438 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 2: Like there's a long line of Steelers, really good longtime guards. 439 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 2: Wearing sixty six. 440 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 3: So you're talking to someone born on six y six 441 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 3: whose favorite athlete of all time is Mary Lemu. So 442 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 3: McCormick just skyrocketed up my list and he was one 443 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 3: of my favors to begin with. 444 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, Fatano is tenacious. Is a tenacious people mover in 445 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,479 Speaker 2: a run game, and as he can drive defenders off 446 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 2: the ball and climb to secure the second level, that 447 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 2: messes with his own heavy run schemes we will see 448 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 2: this season under new Steelers offensive coordinator Arthur Smith. Fatano 449 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 2: also has the foot quickness linked and lower body balance 450 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,959 Speaker 2: to kick back and mirror edge rushers and pass protections. 451 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 2: I love the scheme fit, but I'm also looking at 452 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 2: this as Pittsburgh targeting offensive lineman and the draft who 453 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 2: can reset its identity up front. In addition to the 454 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 2: Steelers also added Zach Fraser in the second round. That's 455 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 2: two tone setters for a club that wants to run 456 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 2: the ball. 457 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 3: I'm not sure I had written that better myself. I mean, 458 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 3: he mentions the town, the attitude, the franchise, the need, 459 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 3: but also the scheme like they're they're the one lineman 460 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 3: that get out there and run and go track down, 461 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 3: you know, go hunt in the open field. And I 462 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 3: don't think there's anyone better than that in this draft. 463 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 2: Uh. Fatanu and McCormick both wrote down to Rookie Mini 464 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 2: Camp today with Zach Fraser in his pickup three of 465 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 2: them together, And actually I was talking with the Fraser. 466 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 2: He and McCormick both worked out together pre draft, did 467 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 2: that the same facility, so they knew each other. They 468 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 2: have they have a good relationship. And he said he 469 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 2: met you know, Fatana at the at the combine and 470 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 2: so I think those guys all knew each other. 471 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 3: Duke Mannyweather, I think that was offensive line masterminds because 472 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 3: I remember there was an interview with Fraser where they 473 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 3: went to interview him and he was pounding away on 474 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 3: the treadmill and they're like you just broke your leg. Yeah, 475 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 3: and he's like, I'll get off the travel here in 476 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 3: a minute. But yeah, I think that was with Duke Mannyweather, 477 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 3: who's a phenomenal offensive line guru type. 478 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 2: The next one up is Quinny you Mitchell at twenty 479 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 2: two to the Eagles. Mm hmm, pintendogree that don't worked 480 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 2: out any better for them? 481 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, you talk about be impatient and holding your water. 482 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 2: Between them and Detroit was just waiting out. 483 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 3: The Detroit moved up, but they still ended up with 484 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 3: Arnold you know which. I mean, two of the best 485 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 3: teams in the league end up with two the best 486 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 3: corners in the league. That never happens in the right right, 487 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 3: No never. 488 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 2: Uh. Round two. Ladd McConkie at thirty four to the Chargers. 489 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 3: Again, He's gonna catch a ton of He will lead. 490 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 2: All rookies interceptions this year. 491 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 3: It'd be tough for him to win Rookie of the Year, 492 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 3: but I bet he's in the mix. 493 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 2: Oh, he'll be in I'll bet he's in the top three. 494 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's gonna catch a lot of balls. 495 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 2: Uh. Max Melton at number forty three to Arizona. 496 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 3: Good one. I mean, tough guy. I mean trying to 497 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 3: build a culture in Arizona and the Eagles like that. 498 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 3: I think he fits. Obviously, there's an easy path to 499 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 3: playing time for him as well. 500 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. Edrian Cooper to the Packers at forty five. 501 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 3: I guess I'm not sure why that one would stand out. 502 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 3: I mean, they're uh, they drafted Walker recently in the 503 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 3: first round two years ago. 504 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 2: I guess they're looking. He's looking at this as he 505 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,719 Speaker 2: and Walker will play well off of each other. 506 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 3: I could see that. I can see that. And it's 507 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 3: a lot of athleticism on the field. I mean not 508 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 3: only that, but they signed McKinney and drafted three safeties 509 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 3: and they drafted another linebacker. Like middle of the field 510 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 3: defense was overkilled. 511 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 2: That's typically how Green Bay does it. 512 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 3: They do they do, and to be honest, last couple 513 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 3: of years they've been terrible on special team. So maybe 514 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 3: an extra safety, an extra linebacker, perfect, right. 515 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 2: Mike Santastril to the Commanders at fifty another one. 516 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 3: I mean, you're trying to rebuild a culture, You're want 517 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 3: an attitude guy. They didn't even need a slot. They 518 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 3: took the Illinois could we liked last year. Who's the 519 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,719 Speaker 3: big safety slot? But they just love this player. 520 00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, he's good. 521 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:00,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 522 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 2: Cole Bishop at sixty to the Bills. 523 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. I mean we've seen the same two safeties 524 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 3: in Buffalo forever and they're both interchangeable. They both do 525 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 3: a lot of stuff. I think Bishop, it's gonna take 526 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 3: some time and he's not gonna be at their level 527 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 3: right away. But you know they wanted a versatile, interchangeable 528 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 3: safety and that's that's what he is. 529 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 2: Uh Malechai Corley at sixty five to the Jets. 530 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 3: I mixed feelings on this one, Like I see kind 531 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 3: of a young Randall Cobb, you know, for Rogers. But 532 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 3: I also see this guy doesn't really run routes. I mean, 533 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 3: he's a manufactured touch player, and we know everything's gonna 534 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 3: be through Rogers. Is he gonna you know bubble? I 535 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 3: mean they're gonna design all this stuff for Rodgers. 536 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 2: Helped make the pick. Yeah, they had them watch a 537 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 2: lot of Hey, which which one of these guys you like? 538 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 2: And Corley was one of the ones that Rogers picked. 539 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 3: In Really, I mean, guy has so much power in 540 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 3: that building, which is bonkers. But I don't know, I 541 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 3: think I'd rather throw to Wilson or I. 542 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 2: Think Corley is actually living in Rogers guest, how is. 543 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,239 Speaker 3: He Reelly can do one of those most Yeah, then 544 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 3: he'll be fine. Yeah, it's a great fit. 545 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 2: That's all that matter is. It's sit in the backyard 546 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 2: and you know, their legs crossed and stare at the moon, right, 547 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 2: you know, whatever they do. Jonah ellis the edge rusher 548 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 2: to the Broncos at seventy six. Fine, that doesn't move 549 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 2: the needle from them, right whatever. This one we kind 550 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 2: of talked about though. Jatavian Sanders at tight end goes 551 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 2: one oh one to the Carolina Panthers. 552 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean he's like a four or five star 553 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 3: recruit that didn't really play like that, but he flashes 554 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 3: and there's nothing in front of him. I mean, you're 555 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 3: a young quarterback with Leasa Talon at tight end that 556 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 3: should see the field. Okay, it's towards the risk. 557 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 2: Jalen Wright at one twenty to the Dolphins. 558 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 3: Speed, speed, speeds, beads they do, I think most it's 559 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 3: like the oldest back in the league. 560 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. And then finally Malik Mustafa at one twenty four 561 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 2: to the forty nine Ers. 562 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 3: I guess I mean that downhill that they have a fonga, 563 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 3: you know, that's a better version. But he's a thumper, 564 00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 3: speed guy. 565 00:24:59,119 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 566 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that fits their aggressively. 567 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 2: You feel like Jimmy Ward kind of feel to it. 568 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. Yeah, they did need another safety, so interesting, 569 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 3: that's a good fit. 570 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. So that's the group there. Of course, I think 571 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 2: he also could have added Zach Fraser to that but 572 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 2: it looks, yeah, kind of limiting it to one pick 573 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 2: per team. But I mean, I think you know, those 574 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 2: three offensive linemen the Steelers added, I talked to McCormick today. 575 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 3: I mean, he's a pickup truck too. 576 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 2: He'll fit right in. Really, he'll fit right in. 577 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 3: Okay. I have not been around any of them yet, 578 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 3: but I have a feeling their attitudes will be infectious 579 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 3: and it's cool to already hanging out together too. 580 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And I think you know that's just you know, 581 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 2: what you want from your offensive lineman. And if those 582 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 2: three guys end up being part of this line for 583 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 2: the next let's say, let's say seven. 584 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 3: Years, yes, say, I mean more than four, you're really happy. 585 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 2: Right, absolutely? Yeah, And I think there's certainly a good 586 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 2: chance that that could be the case. 587 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 3: No doubt, no doubt. I can see Frasier starting for 588 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 3: a decade, you know. Yeah, these guys are fits and 589 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 3: their foundational pieces. 590 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 2: Well, one thing, and I meant to mention this when 591 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 2: we were talking about this in the previous segment, about 592 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 2: those guys potentially starting out of the gate. One of 593 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 2: the reasons why Mike Tomlin didn't start Joey Porter right 594 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 2: out of the gate. He didn't want him. Well, the 595 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 2: same thing with Roderi Jones, but he didn't want either 596 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 2: one hitting the rookie wall. But I think in the 597 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 2: case of Roderick Jones it was in part because he'd 598 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 2: only had fifteen career starts. In the case of Porter, 599 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 2: it's because hey, look he's going to be he's going 600 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 2: to do more than just play cornerback. He's he's gonna 601 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 2: there's some special teams things that he can do, things 602 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 2: of that nature. So he's playing more snaps than just 603 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 2: playing corner. 604 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 3: Right, where the linemen aren't going to run down riakofs 605 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 3: or anything like that. Right, So that could. 606 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 2: Be a situation where the offensive lineman, because these guys 607 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 2: are more experienced, they may not have the trepidation putting 608 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 2: them in there from the get go is that they 609 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 2: did with Jones or last year with Porter putting in 610 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,959 Speaker 2: because again, those guys aren't going to play a ton 611 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 2: of special teams. 612 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 3: Right. Does your spider sense tell you that the first 613 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 3: time they line up with the veterans in Mini caamp 614 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 3: or whatever, Fraser will be the center with the ones. 615 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 2: I think so, Yeah, I would think so. I think so, 616 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 2: And that's the difference. The difference between what's going on 617 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 2: at tackle and what's going on at center is that 618 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 2: they'd have a returning incumbent starter. Last year starter's not here, right, 619 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 2: it's center. Last year's starter's not here. You've got a 620 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,479 Speaker 2: guy who's who's a veteran, who's been on the team, 621 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 2: but he really hasn't played center, right. 622 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 3: I mean, if Cole were on this roster, I think 623 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 3: he'd probably have the first snaps, yeah, and at least 624 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 3: beat him out. But now I think you'd go give 625 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 3: it to the rook. 626 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, so I think that's what's gonna end up 627 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 2: happening here. We'll see here, well not too long another week. Yeah, yeah, 628 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 2: they go out for OTA's but let's get to another break. 629 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 2: He is the Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lallie. You're listening 630 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 2: to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be 631 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 2: back with more in a drive right after this. 632 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 633 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 634 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: and GOLDNR Steelers Nation Radio. 635 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 2: Hey Steeler fans, you can get up with the latest 636 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 2: sideline apparel, Hatsterer jerseys, of your favorite players, authentic memorabili 637 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 2: the custom items and exclusives you can only find directly 638 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 2: from the team at one of the official Steelers pro shops. 639 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 2: They are located at Akrosher Stadium, Grove City Premium Outlets, 640 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 2: or Tanger Outlets, or visit online at Shop Dodd Steelers 641 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 2: dot com. He is the Matt Williams and I'm Dale Lollie. 642 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 2: You're listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. 643 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 3: Get that sixty six Jersey. 644 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's what that wants. So Matt Aaron Shatz put 645 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 2: together the biggest remaining roster holes for all thirty two teams. 646 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 2: But I thought here in this final segment of our 647 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 2: number one, we take a look at the roster holes 648 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 2: for the AFC North team. 649 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I read this. This is really good work. We 650 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 3: both are big Aaron Shots fans, and he goes pretty 651 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 3: in depth on some of these, like Dallas he's like 652 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 3: third safety, you know. Yeah, I mean like things that 653 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 3: because they play a ton of nickel or big nickel, 654 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 3: you know. So he really dug into it pretty heavy. 655 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 3: It's a good article. 656 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 2: So for the AFC North, for the Baltimore Ravens, he 657 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 2: has the biggest roster hole is left guard. Right now, 658 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 2: the penciled in starters Andrew Voorheas. 659 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 3: He was a red shirt last year. 660 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 2: Basically the tours right ACL. I ended up getting him 661 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 2: into the seventh round. As he says, right now, the 662 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 2: penciled in starter left guard is Andrew Warheas. Many scouts 663 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 2: consider him a Day two prospect at USC until he 664 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 2: tours right ACL at the twenty twenty three combine that 665 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 2: dropped him to the seventh round and costume his rookie season. 666 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 2: If Vorheas isn't ready to start, the Ravens could move 667 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 2: to swing tackle Patrick McCarry, or perhaps stick a sixth 668 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 2: round pick from twenty twenty three ma Lasa Allum la 669 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 2: ley Lalu, who spent his entire rookie season as a 670 00:29:55,440 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 2: healthy and active They need Warheas play in a big way. 671 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 2: And you're talking about a guy who hasn't played football now. 672 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 3: In about it's been year and a half, over a 673 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 3: year and a half. Yeah, so a couple of things. 674 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 3: There is some of these guys and I'm not saying 675 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 3: Zach Center is exactly the same, but we just went 676 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 3: through this this year with a good guard that you 677 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 3: knew Base's gonna red shirt this year, and everyone's like, wow, 678 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 3: he would have been in a way, Yes, he'd have 679 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 3: been a way higher pick, But I don't know that 680 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 3: he was studied, certainly by the draft knicks and the 681 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 3: people we hear on the radio and stuff, because he 682 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 3: didn't play. I mean, it's a big stretch. He didn't play, 683 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 3: So there's a little bit of a more variance to 684 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 3: those prospects to me anyway, not in any attack on 685 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 3: and he hasn't played forever. 686 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 2: Because you know, you can talk about the combine stuff 687 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 2: all you want or the pro days. He didn't have 688 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 2: any of this. 689 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 3: That stuff either. 690 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 2: We have no idea what the agility is. It might 691 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 2: have pushed him up the board, it may have moved 692 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 2: him down a little. 693 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's oh, he would have been a 694 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 3: second second day pick. Maybe we don't know that though. 695 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 3: Have to go through it or compete with other guards 696 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 3: that we're going into. 697 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 2: According into the draft process, at least among the analysts. 698 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 2: For example, kayln King, right, great example was a he's 699 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 2: he's the first time last year he's in the first 700 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 2: round or second round. 701 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 3: It the latest he's better than Porter, you know, right, 702 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 3: and not so much went the seventh. Yeah, but anyway, 703 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 3: mccary's super valuable to them because he frankly, he can 704 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 3: really play all five positions. Is he great at any 705 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 3: of them? No? But let's say Rosen Gardens not ready 706 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 3: or strong enough to play right tackle. 707 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 2: R McCary got to start right tackle. 708 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 3: I would imagine, you know, so, you don't want him 709 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 3: bumping into guard. 710 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 2: To me, rose Gardens kind of a project. 711 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 3: I think so too. I think he needs to get stronger, 712 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 3: and you don't want File out there, you know so. 713 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 3: I feel like they're one lineman short. 714 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 2: Nowhere in here is File mentioned. Surprising. 715 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 3: I wonder if he's like on the cusp of getting cut, 716 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 3: surprised he's not very good at the game? 717 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 2: Uh? For the Cincinnati Bengals, the roster hole is it 718 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 2: wide receiver? 719 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 3: See I read that one. That's one I didn't agree with. Yeah, Well, 720 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 3: because I'm a Burton fan, they've had a bunch of 721 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 3: these dudes that have played right that are now going 722 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 3: to probably be the third or fourth guy. I don't 723 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 3: think Higgins is getting traded. He can complain all he wants. 724 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 2: I just wonder to me if Higgins has a hang nail. 725 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 3: All that stuff happening, same with Hendrickson. Yeah yeah, right, 726 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 3: I mean that's that's what your risk. But all in all, 727 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 3: their receiver room is I mean, Tyler Boyd's not gonna 728 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 3: be missed. No, I mean I'd rather Burton this year 729 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 3: than Boyd. Yeah, you know, on the field. Yeah, So 730 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 3: that's one I didn't really get for the Browns. 731 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 2: It's cornerback depth, which sounds weird considering they have Denzel Ward, 732 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 2: Martin Emerson, Greg Newsom. 733 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 3: This is another one I wasn't real fond of. But 734 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 3: quarterback aside, the Browns are a hard team to find holes. 735 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 3: I mean, their roster is pretty complete. It might not 736 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 3: be excellent everywhere, but they have three corners that are 737 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 3: all legit dudes. Yeah you know, and they've had actually, 738 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 3: you know, shove Newsom into the slot, which really isn't 739 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 3: what he's best suited to do. Most teams would kill 740 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 3: for that problem, right, Yeah, So, I mean I didn't 741 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 3: see it there with that one either. I'm not sure 742 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 3: what i'd come up with except for starting quarterback, but 743 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 3: that's not going to cut it. 744 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, if I were them, would you trade Greg Newsom? 745 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 3: I'd consider it because you'd get. 746 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 2: Something good and you're talking to sign him back. 747 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 3: Maybe the time to have been before the draft, because 748 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 3: this is three years a row. They even' had a 749 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 3: first round pick, yeah, a second. They probably could have 750 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 3: gotten a two for Greg Newsom. Yeah yeah, and even 751 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 3: if he just drafted a corner and swapped him out 752 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 3: for a nickel for Saints Kroll or something like that. Yeah, 753 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 3: you buy time, you get younger, because yeah, I don't 754 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 3: think he's a franchise candidate, especially with what you're paying 755 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 3: Ward and the other dudes all right too, and you'd 756 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 3: get something for Newsome. They're so aggressive. I mean they're 757 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 3: in it to win it. I'm sure that you can. 758 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 2: Still be in it to win it and trade Newsom. 759 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 2: And again if if you drafts Santastrill, Yeah, and now 760 00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 2: you might be better. 761 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 3: You might be better and more suited for your environment. 762 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, no, I think that should have been something 763 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 3: they considered at this point. 764 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 2: Probably not, I don't know that they didn't, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 765 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 2: you know. 766 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 3: That just to me, because he's in hit the up 767 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 3: market and make a good bock. 768 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you're not going to get him bad. 769 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 3: I don't think you're getting back in the days of 770 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 3: keeping let alone, going out and getting guys from outside 771 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 3: the organization. They're expensive or probably done right brownies. 772 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,280 Speaker 2: For the Steelers, it's nickel corner. 773 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's still true. There's some options, but they're a 774 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,479 Speaker 3: little bit of a reach. I mean, I think wide 775 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 3: receivers right there, well, I mean I think there's two 776 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 3: that stand out. But now Aaron's smart. I mean, people 777 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 3: look at this corner room like, oh, there's that. Now, 778 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 3: who's the nickel? 779 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 2: You know, right, That's the thing like when people kept 780 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,320 Speaker 2: bringing up during the draft, well, what about this guy's 781 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 2: got to be a nickel. It's got to be a nickel, 782 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 2: because right now. 783 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 3: You're you're too if one of them is a nickel. 784 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 2: But right your nickel right now is probably Josiah Scott. 785 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. And I know that they're excited about the wu 786 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 3: kid as well. I mean, but these are they're not proven. 787 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's the most proven. He played four 788 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 2: under snaps two years ago for the Eagles in the 789 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 2: in the slot. 790 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 3: Like if they've lined up week one, I think he'd 791 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 3: be the slot. Yeah, but that's not ideal. He might 792 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 3: be fine, but he could be Yeah, he could be 793 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 3: more option there. 794 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to have something I know. I know 795 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 2: this guy's good. 796 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 3: I mean, at this point i'd be happy, maybe not 797 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 3: with Sullivan, maybe a little bit better than that, but 798 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 3: that mold of somebody that's been the league five, six, 799 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,399 Speaker 3: seven years, it's not super expensive, that's played a lot 800 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,879 Speaker 3: of slot and they're doing and maybe that's a move. 801 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 2: They have Anthony Brett in for a rookie camp tryout 802 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 2: to Yeah, he's a six year veteran, hasn't played a 803 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 2: ton in the slot, but he's done it. 804 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 3: He can. 805 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's also played a lot of snaps in 806 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 2: the NFL. 807 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 3: I think he's a good special teamer from what I 808 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 3: remember too, So you. 809 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 2: Know, maybe that's an option. I don't know. 810 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 3: It might be a three or four you know man 811 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 3: situation and whoever best man wins and we realize it's 812 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 3: not going to be the strength of the defense, but 813 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 3: if we're strong everywhere else, we can live with it. 814 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 2: It's different, like it's. 815 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 3: A weird position to invest in because it's almost like 816 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 3: running back. They get beat up and they're all little 817 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 3: and they don't last long in the league. I mean, 818 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 3: it's almost like, unless I have a great one. I 819 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 3: might just put a band aid there and live with it. 820 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 2: It's it's exact opposite of what Cleveland is. 821 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 3: Doing right now, exact opposite right where. 822 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 2: You know, they have a ward, they have Emerson, They're 823 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 2: playing Newsome in the slot and he doesn't necessarily necessarily 824 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 2: profile is a true slot. 825 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 3: He's doing it for the best of the team. 826 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, thing right, you know, could Darius Rush bump inside 827 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 2: and be the slot maybe maybe maybe. 828 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,399 Speaker 3: Maybe the Texas kid or you know. I mean, I'm 829 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 3: sure somebody will be asked to do it, or they 830 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 3: could come up and volunteer and be like, hey, if 831 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 3: I can see the field, I'll try it. 832 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:46,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I know it's not Corey Trice. 833 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 3: I don't think it's Trice. 834 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not Joey Porter Junior. 835 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:51,359 Speaker 3: No. 836 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 2: And I don't think that it's Dante Jackson. 837 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 3: I don't think that's why he was added. And he's 838 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,399 Speaker 3: not super physical too. I think he's best on he's 839 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 3: he is an outside guy. Yeah, and some of these 840 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,359 Speaker 3: dudes obviously will follow a receiver into the slot. Doesn't 841 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 3: mean they'll never align there. I mean, be the guy, right. 842 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 3: I think that's give me one of the things we 843 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:11,359 Speaker 3: talking most about a camp. 844 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no doubt about it. I mean I think 845 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 2: that's to me, that's a bigger hole than the wide 846 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 2: receiver spot, just because a wide receiver. Well, they don't 847 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 2: have the quote unquote one guy answer for any of 848 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 2: this stuff. They've got a bunch of guys who are 849 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 2: NFL players, Like I wish they'd know what they are. 850 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 3: I wish they had those four receivers slot version, right, 851 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? 852 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,240 Speaker 2: Like if you signed Scotty Miller of the slot world, 853 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 2: of the slot world, You're like, oh okay, Like I can't. 854 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 3: Live with that, right right, Yeah, they're the least guys 855 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,720 Speaker 3: I can line up and play with, right right. 856 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 2: Whereas in Nickel corner right now, you've got some projections 857 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 2: more than anything else. 858 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,800 Speaker 3: And I wonder if they think one of the safeties 859 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:49,879 Speaker 3: is really going to be the guy. 860 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know who that would be. I know, 861 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 2: unless it's Minka make. 862 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 3: It could obviously do a lot of it. KZ has 863 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 3: Elliott against the end would make some sense, but none 864 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 3: of them are slot slots, right right? Yeah? Maybe how 865 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 3: about row I know Rosan on the team, but I 866 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 3: keep thinking that he'd be a guy guys. 867 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 2: He's not a slot tho either. 868 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 3: And he hasn't done much of it, I know, but 869 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,760 Speaker 3: he's had a corner background any safety, but he's probably 870 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 3: is what he is at this dag. 871 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think he runs nearly as well thirty 872 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 2: or thirty one as he did when he was twenty three. 873 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, that needs to be figured out. It's definitely a 874 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 3: good one. 875 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 2: But at the time, and you know, there's I can't 876 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 2: stress this enough with people who want this guy. They 877 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 2: got to sign somebody now, Like there are going to 878 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 2: be guys released other tons after June first during training 879 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 2: camp that. 880 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 3: I mean, there's a handful of teams right now that 881 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 3: are pretty darn tight on the cap and haven't signed 882 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 3: rookies or that kind of stuff yet too. I mean 883 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 3: I've been asked you probably have too. What about Xavion 884 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 3: Howard or Stefan Gilmour might they're not close to what 885 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 3: they used to be. They're outside guys. They're not going 886 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 3: to come in and play for nothing, you know. I mean, like, hey, 887 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,839 Speaker 3: I'm all in favor adding any defensive back that help 888 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 3: I mean, Patrick Peterson, whatever, But they don't help your 889 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 3: slat problem. 890 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 2: No, they don't. 891 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:08,760 Speaker 3: That's a slot. 892 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 2: That's the biggest thing right now. 893 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm not spending money on those guys where 894 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 3: I could maybe use that money on a receiver or something. 895 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. So that's where the Steelers are at at this point, 896 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 2: that's where the ANC North is at. According to Aaron 897 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 2: Shatz of ESPN, I. 898 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,319 Speaker 3: Orge everyone checked that article out theough. Yeah. I think 899 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 3: the two Ohio teams were probably his worst write ups 900 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 3: of the one and I'm not sure who had have picked, 901 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:29,760 Speaker 3: but it is a good article. 902 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get to another break. That's going to do 903 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 2: it for our number one of the drive here on 904 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,840 Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio, Matt and I will be back with 905 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 2: our number two. Don't you go anywhere you're on his 906 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 2: drive