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Speaker 1: right in the thick of the national championship conversation.

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Speaker 2: I also look, I.

436
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Speaker 1: Think there's some course correction happening in terms of coaching

437
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Speaker 1: staff at LSU right now. I love what they did defensively.

438
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Speaker 1: I cannot believe it came to that defensively. I cannot

439
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Speaker 1: believe that I looked at them last year and watch

440
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Speaker 1: them have the worst defensive coaching staff in the conference.

441
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Speaker 2: Just pure numbers.

442
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Speaker 1: Okay, that's not even opinion, that's just pure numbers.

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Speaker 2: Well, they addressed it in a big way.

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Speaker 1: Now. The internal mechanations of that and how that process

445
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Speaker 1: actually happens, I think is worth an entire book. Bruce

446
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Speaker 1: Feldman does a lot of good books on college football. Kiota,

447
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Speaker 1: you know this is not a good idea, Bruce, so

448
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Speaker 1: don't do this. But I would be fascinated to read

449
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Speaker 1: a book that details the actual hiring process head coach, coordinators,

450
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Speaker 1: position coaches. I think it is the thing the public

451
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 1: misunderstands the most about our sport.

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Speaker 2: Just unbelievable.

453
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Speaker 1: Anyway, LSU nailed it massively upgraded their defensive staff. I

454
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Speaker 1: also think resources are top notch there. They've won. It's

455
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Speaker 1: not like they haven't been winning. The dude came in

456
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Speaker 1: and beat Alabama and won the West his first year

457
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Speaker 1: at LSU.

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Speaker 2: Top end potential is there.

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Speaker 1: LSU was number eight, but LSU can be the top

460
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Speaker 1: program in the country. So number eight for those folks

461
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Speaker 1: isn't high enough. Florida State has reason to feel the

462
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Speaker 1: same way. I've got Florida State as the number nine

463
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Speaker 1: program in college football right now, and Florida State could

464
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Speaker 1: be on their way to top five status. You can't

465
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Speaker 1: do it overnight, like I'm not vaulting them up there overnight.

466
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Speaker 1: But last year, I think in the minds of many,

467
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Speaker 1: including myself, rooted out any kind of lingering doubt about

468
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Speaker 1: whether Mike Norvel would be a long term like high

469
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Speaker 1: level winner, he will be. I have very little doubt

470
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Speaker 1: about that. They've secured him. They've locked him up long term.

471
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Speaker 1: Their recruiting is rapidly improving now. Unlike some out there,

472
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Speaker 1: they had the good sense to utilize that portal and

473
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Speaker 1: get a winning product from the field immediately and then

474
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Speaker 1: slowly transition to how you construct a roster. I think

475
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Speaker 1: they've done about as good a job as anyone in

476
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Speaker 1: managing roster construction in the new college football, which is

477
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Speaker 1: funny when you juxtapose it to how some other programs

478
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Speaker 1: in the ACC have chosen to operate. I think this

479
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 1: year is pivotal on many fronts for them. Number one,

480
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Speaker 1: it's just a year of college football. We don't ever

481
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Speaker 1: waste those. But number two, you get to find out

482
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Speaker 1: what Florida State University football is about as opposed to

483
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Speaker 1: just what the twenty twenty three team was about, because

484
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Speaker 1: you lost a lot of pieces off that and there

485
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Speaker 1: are a lot of new faces that have to contribute

486
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Speaker 1: and emerge. And if you turn on Florida State week

487
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Speaker 1: six or week seven, and the product kind of looks

488
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Speaker 1: the same all of a sudden again, this year as

489
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Speaker 1: it did last year. That is indication of a rock

490
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Speaker 1: solid culture, like that's a program more so than just

491
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Speaker 1: an isolated team like Michigan State a couple of years

492
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Speaker 1: ago had a ridiculously good team, program was bad. Florida

493
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Speaker 1: State's not going to be Michigan State's certainly not my prediction.

494
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Speaker 1: But that's the difference. That's what you watch for. You

495
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Speaker 1: watch for different instances that validate your belief. My belief

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Speaker 1: is Florida State is a top ten aege football program

497
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Speaker 1: right now, and I've still got Clemson as a top

498
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Speaker 1: ten college football program. So it could have put Tennessee

499
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: up here, could have at Penn State Utah, but I

500
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Speaker 1: put Clemson still as a top ten college football program.

501
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Speaker 2: I think it's important to use the same scale here.

502
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Speaker 1: By the Clemson scale, it feels like this program's fallen off.

503
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Speaker 2: So to speak, a lot more than they actually have.

504
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Speaker 1: So by the Clemson scale, you ought to be right

505
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Speaker 1: there in the think of the national Championship conversation every year,

506
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Speaker 1: and they haven't necessarily been that last couple of years.

507
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Speaker 1: That's not the worst thing in the world. In storm chasing,

508
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 1: sometimes we have a tornadic supercell it's already got a

509
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Speaker 1: history of producing, and then it has to cycle, or,

510
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Speaker 1: as Bill Paxston and Helen Hunt would say, it has

511
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Speaker 1: to backbuild and then it drops another tornado. Well, Clemson,

512
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Speaker 1: maybe they're just backbuilding. Maybe they're just cycling. There's no

513
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Speaker 1: definitive proof that they've fallen off. And by the way,

514
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Speaker 1: fallen off is a first world term here. That's why

515
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about scale. If you use the same scale

516
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Speaker 1: for Clemson as you do everyone else.

517
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Speaker 2: They're still winning a lot of games.

518
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Speaker 1: I'm not putting him in the top five, by the way,

519
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 1: so don't argue with me they're overrated. If you're going

520
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 1: to preemptively I'm anticipating that. Don't argue with me. Clemson's

521
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Speaker 1: overrated When I put him number ten and then use

522
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Speaker 1: programs like Oregon or Texas, I don't have them ahead

523
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Speaker 1: of those, but I do have them ahead of you know,

524
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Speaker 1: like a Tennessee or a Utah because the results have

525
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: been comparable. And I still think there's a lot to

526
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Speaker 1: say for the stability there. I think there's a lot

527
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Speaker 1: to say for the culture there. Now. I think a

528
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: lot of people have opinions on their talent acquisition strategy

529
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 1: and how resistant they've been to really embracing the transfer portal.

530
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Speaker 1: We've talked about that a lot on the show. Difference

531
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Speaker 1: is dablos when he's not a rookie head coach. So

532
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Speaker 1: might he be stubborn on this front? Might he be

533
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: really entrenched in his ways? Yeah, but at least there's

534
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: a proven philosophy there, and so if he's going to fail,

535
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 1: it really will just be because they didn't evolve with

536
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: the game. But I'm always going to give guys with

537
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: proven track records benefit of the doubt. It won't be

538
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 1: the first time that the sport has sort of left

539
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: a philosophy behind or passed a philosophy by. But it's

540
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Speaker 1: also well within his right to continue to evolve too.

541
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Speaker 1: And just because they've what had a nine or ten

542
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Speaker 1: win season last couple of years, I don't start etching

543
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 1: dates on their headstone. I'm not quite there yet. I

544
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: have them well down like Clemson. Imagine a few years

545
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 1: ago saying they're barely in the top ten of college

546
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: football programs. Again, it's a very first world slight to

547
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: throw at someone.

548
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 2: They could elevate. They could elevate as well.

549
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Speaker 1: We'll see hearing good things about a certain freshman receiver

550
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: over there, Kye Club Nick offense this year Garrett.

551
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: Riley's second year as the coordinator. We'll see so anyway.

552
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: In in review Georgia, Bama, Michigan, Ohio State, Texas, Oregon,

553
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, LSU, Florida State, Clemson. Those are my top

554
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: ten college football programs right now, using the aforementioned blend

555
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 1: of rolling criteria. It's on field results, it's talent acquisition,

556
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: it's stability, it's resource pool and I'm sure everyone will

557
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: agree on every single part of this. I see no

558
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Speaker 1: reason for debate. You know what debate. Anyway, it's fun.

559
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Speaker 1: It is April, after all, Let's roll on. Got a

560
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Speaker 1: really good live crowd. I am certain we'll have a

561
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: big replay crowd. Obviously, we're in a temporary studio because

562
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: they are hammering and nailing our new studio together. It's

563
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Speaker 1: really pretty. I've seen the renderings.

564
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Speaker 2: I wear the.

565
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: Same T shirt like eight days out of the week,

566
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: so I don't need anything fancy. But because you guys

567
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: have made this the most consumed college football show in

568
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: digital media, they're giving us something fancy. Anyway, Show's not

569
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: going to change it may just be a little fancier looking,

570
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: but it's not going to change, but we appreciate it.

571
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Speaker 1: Spring intel is my favorite thing to talk about this

572
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Speaker 1: time of year.

573
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Speaker 2: I want to go straight to LSU.

574
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to hit several CAMPI plural of campus in

575
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: the next few minutes. They knew they had to diversify

576
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: the run game down there. When Jaden Daniels was on

577
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: the field last year, he was the run threat. He

578
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: was a passing threat, and a lot of times guys

579
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: could just say down said hunt stand there and see

580
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: what he's going to do. Well, he's not there anymore,

581
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: and so no matter who that quarterback, they know that

582
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: they're going to have to account for that lost yardage

583
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: on the ground. And they've got strength both sides of

584
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: the offensive line at tackle, they've got to use it

585
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: a lot more outside zone. In other words, it's what

586
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: they've worked on this spring, and I think think that

587
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: it'll pay dividends for them this fall. But also I

588
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: am more interested and more not concerned, but inquisitive about

589
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: the defensive side in general, because I'm a believer that

590
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: last year's defensive staff, by way of how subpar they

591
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: ended up being, probably left a lot of meat on

592
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Speaker 1: the bone and that probably there are some pretty good

593
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Speaker 1: defensive players at LSU that didn't emerge last year that

594
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,239
Speaker 1: will emerge this year because I can tell you one

595
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: thing about the staff they got in there. Now, if

596
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: they fail, it won't be for lack of quality and

597
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: for lack of trying. It will simply be they didn't

598
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Speaker 1: have the personnel. I don't expect LSU to be a

599
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: top three defense in the SEC. I do think some

600
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,719
Speaker 1: pretty big names are going to emerge or re emerge

601
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: because they'll be used the right way. And that's some

602
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: of the drum beat and feedback we're getting early on

603
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Speaker 1: from springball down there. And I think with LSU, like

604
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: many many other major programs out there, is going to

605
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: have to look to the portal for interior defensive line

606
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: help when this thing opens in a couple of weeks.

607
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Speaker 1: And let me tell you, kids, I've been on the

608
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Speaker 1: road for over a month now. I've sat down with

609
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Speaker 1: several coaches and several coordinators and folks from collectives and

610
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: general managers. There are a lot of big spenders that

611
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Speaker 1: are all about to target interior defense line, and all

612
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Speaker 1: of them think they're going to address their needs and

613
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: simple Maths says, they're not all going to get what

614
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: they think they're going to get, but some defensive tackles

615
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: were about to get a whole lot of money because

616
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: of that desperation from otherwise premier teams at that position.

617
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: Glenn West It go twenty four to seven helped us

618
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Speaker 1: out a lot with that feedback. What about Louisville. Louisville,

619
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Speaker 1: we haven't talked a whole lot about on the show.

620
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Speaker 1: You think Louisville, you think Jeff Brown, you think offense,

621
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Speaker 1: right well, I want you to think defense because defense

622
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,719
Speaker 1: is the strength of this team right now, and in

623
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: particular I think the secondary this could be one of

624
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: the best secondaries in the country this year. Dare I

625
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: say that in April about Louisville?

626
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 2: Yes, I do. Had to check the eye Josh twice there.

627
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: Quincy Riley was there last year and he was really good,

628
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: and he's back. But they added several options that they

629
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: can rotate now, and I really think that secondary is

630
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: going to be good. And it better be because it

631
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: will take this offense a little time and I think

632
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: it'll be a more complementary kind of team this year.

633
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Speaker 2: Running back depth is really good there though.

634
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Speaker 1: And let me just tell you, Jody Demmling hit us

635
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Speaker 1: up from cardin authority. Isaac Brown is a freshman running

636
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Speaker 1: back there. If you want to sound smart with your

637
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: buddies at the water cooler, start talking to him, albeit

638
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: in a hushed tone, about Isaac Brown, and they're gonna say, oh, yeah,

639
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: I love that kid. And you're gonna say, oh, really,

640
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: who is he? They don't know who he is, Okay,

641
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: they just said that hoping you wouldn't call him on

642
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: their bs. Isaac Brown is a freshman running back at Louisville.

643
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Speaker 1: He's really good and I think he could be a

644
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,959
Speaker 1: star this fall. So keep an eye on him.

645
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Speaker 2: He's going to get the workload.

646
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Speaker 1: Keep an eye on him maybe, actually, I think as

647
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Speaker 1: a freshman. Whatever, forget about the classification. He's going to

648
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: be really good. Oklahoma, what's happening? Well, we have to

649
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: check in on offensive line when we talk about Oklahoma,

650
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: because that's what.

651
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 2: The law says. They lost. It feels like one hundred

652
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 2: offensive lineman.

653
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: Now. The good news, according to our buddies Tom Green

654
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: and Colin Kennedy over there, it sooner illustrated. The good

655
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: news is the offensive guards they have seemed to be

656
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: coming along very well. The bad news is that's only

657
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: two out of five positions, and their starting center went

658
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: down with injury and probably won't be back until midway

659
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: through fall camp. So we have to take what.

660
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 2: We can get.

661
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: I guess right now when it comes to offensive line

662
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: up dates at Oklahoma, now the tight end room looks upgraded.

663
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: And also Dion Burks as a wide receiver. They added

664
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: from Purdue that dude's going to be a star this

665
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: fall in the SEC. Just yes, in the SEC, in

666
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: this economy, in the SEC, Dion Burks, I don't know

667
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: how in the world you buy stock in players. Maybe

668
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: we'll talk to FanDuel about devising a system. But go

669
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: go grab you some Dion burkstock. I want you talking

670
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: about Isaac Brown at Louisville. I want you talking about

671
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: Burkes at Oklahoma. What about Kentucky? Remember this time last

672
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: year was the time when we would have all been

673
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: whispering to each other.

674
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 2: You know, Devon.

675
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: Leary transferred to Kentucky from NC State.

676
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 2: Maybe Kentucky's a sleeper.

677
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: Well, actually, what I think we should do is we

678
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: should be talking about Brock Vandergriff this year speaking to

679
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: some people close to the old program up there, including

680
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: Aaron Gershon over at Catpause, there is a difference between

681
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: transferring in and actually transferring in and taking a role like, yes,

682
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: Devin Leary got put in the quarterback position last year.

683
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: The guys who know the program will quickly tell you

684
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: Brock Vandergriff also transferred into play quarterback, but he's actually

685
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: grabbed the role by the throat, which is not necessarily

686
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 1: something they felt like Leary did last year. Of course,

687
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: it would have helped to know that last year. It

688
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: would have saved me some embarrassment. But there's also much

689
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: more tempo being injected into the offense. So if Brod

690
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: Vandergrift puts up bigger numbers this fall, it won't necessarily

691
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: be because he's that much better than Devin Leary. It

692
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 1: may be because Bush Hampden was the offense coordinator at Boise

693
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: and now he's in there and they're just going to

694
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 1: run a whole lot more plays. It's something apparently Mark

695
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: Stoops is really prioritized, and I think they'll get it

696
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: this fall, And you know, just for fun before we

697
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: move on here, I thought it would be very, very

698
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: helpful for all of us to check in with Boston College.

699
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: Boston College hired Bill O'Brien as the new head coach.

700
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: That's one former NFL coach. Did you also know they

701
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: have Rob Chazinski up there? Did you also know they

702
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: have Doug Moron up there? They got three former NFL

703
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: head coaches on the roster. Does it matter, Well, it

704
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: doesn't ever hurt. I don't think it's the end all

705
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 1: be all. I think they had to tear a lot

706
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: of this thing down to the studs and start to

707
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: rebuild it. Look, they're over runners five and a half wins, Okay,

708
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: so a bowl.

709
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 2: Making a bowl is the win.

710
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: This year, They've got a transfer from Texas Tech, Bradley,

711
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: the receiver six'. Five he's probably been the highlight of their.

712
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: Spring Aj black over At Eagle insider was talking to

713
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: us about. HIM i think, that you, know that may

714
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: be a bright spot on the. Team but let's just

715
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: let's just see what the pulse. Is what is the

716
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: vibe From Boston college this? Year more so than, anything

717
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: that's WHAT i care.

718
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 2: About we move. Along we've got a, very very.

719
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: Very eclectic back half of the show. HERE i was

720
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: looking for a better word BUT i don't ever say,

721
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: eclectic and, frankly someone bet me five THAT i wouldn't,

722
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: Tonight so five dollars. Richer LET'S i got to remind

723
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 1: you of. Something, Okay so this time of, YEAR i

724
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 1: like to do something called the mood. Tracker forget about the, Explanation,

725
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,919
Speaker 1: colin if you're listening to me down In, FLORIDA i miss.

726
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 2: You and also you.

727
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: Can use this as your endpoint for the individual video

728
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 1: cut later.

729
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: The Notre dame mood. Tracker want to do it right.

730
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,760
Speaker 1: Now mood trackers just here's the, thermometer and we insert

731
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: it into the entire fan, base very non invasive, way

732
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: a figurative, way AND i want to know what the

733
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: fan base feels this time of. Year we have found

734
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: it's really productive and get you really ahead of the

735
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: curve if you start feeling out the fan, base because

736
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: yes there will be some eternal pessimists and eternal, optimists

737
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: but the fan base knows the program well ahead of

738
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: the preview magazine.

739
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 2: Culture and At.

740
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: Notre, DAME i think the overall mood is just one more,

741
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: wrung one more. Wrong it is really hard to climb

742
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: in this. Sport most coaches fail most coaching staffs. Fail

743
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 1: most players ultimately end up failing because it's really hard

744
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: to succeed when you're competing at this high. Level but

745
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: even if you do start to, climb it's one thing

746
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 1: to climb those first few. Rungs but any of us

747
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: who have ever watched a ladder Match TRIPLE H rock

748
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety, Eight SummerSlam being one of my personal, favorites

749
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 1: you know that the last rung is the hardest. Rung

750
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: used to aggravate me to no. End, actually how The

751
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: rock would climb a ladder because he would climb it ridiculously,

752
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: slow and he would get still far out of reach

753
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:03,959
Speaker 1: of the, belt which is hanging from the, roof because

754
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: that's how a ladder.

755
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 2: Match, works and he would.

756
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: Reach why would he, REACH i don't, know because the

757
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: belt is still several feet beyond his. Grasp Notre dame

758
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: right now is The. Rock Notre dame is on about

759
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: the third or fourth rung from the. Top keep reaching

760
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: for the. Belt they're really, good they look, great they're playing,

761
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: great they're very, competitive but they're not quite high enough

762
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: on that ladder to be able to grab the ultimate.

763
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: Prize this fan base wants a national. Championship they're not there,

764
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: yet but they aren't far. Off it's just one more.

765
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 1: Wrung oh how easy does it? Sound one more? Rung

766
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 1: you ever stood on the top rung of a? LADDER

767
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: i don't advise. It all the crash pads.

768
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,720
Speaker 2: And what not below you, NOTWITHSTANDING i don't advise.

769
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: It it's treacherous up. There it's really. Treacherous me maw

770
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't even let me climb to the top rung of

771
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: the step, ladder and no one gets hurt on that.

772
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 2: Thing so if you're trying to climb to the top

773
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: of one of.

774
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: Those industrial sized, ladders well it's twenty five Footers Jeff.

775
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: Hardy you, know guys like that are the only ones

776
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: crazy enough to climb. Those that's Where Notre dame wants to.

777
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 1: Be so there's a theory they can't get. There do

778
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: you believe that there's not a right or wrong on tonight's?

779
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: SHOW i, Guess but are you one of those people

780
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: who Believes Notre dame can't win a national title given

781
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: the modern construct of college? Football just a side question

782
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: between me and, you And i'm going to give you

783
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: my thoughts in the, second But i'll be. Interested we

784
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: probably should have put a poll. Out i'll be interested

785
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: to see what you think about. That this is a

786
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 1: good place to be for a fan base because you don't,

787
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: Suck you're not. Terrible in, fact you're really. Good you

788
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: just want to be. Great there's no threat of. Collapse

789
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 1: short of like crippling, scandal nothing's probably gonna Derail Notre dame.

790
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 2: Football you got the right. Coach you check that. Box

791
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 2: you got that out of the.

792
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: Way it's got a really good, staff got a really good,

793
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: plan really good.

794
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,439
Speaker 2: Culture it's the perfect head.

795
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: Coach LIKE i said To, bridge Classic Notre dame With

796
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: new age college. Football so all that's good and we're

797
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: not complaining about. That but there's the ceiling theory that

798
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 1: we have to deal. With If i'm A Notre dame,

799
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: fan the ceiling theory is very. Obvious it's you can

800
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: be really good At Notre, dame but you can't be

801
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: a lead At Notre dame. Anymore you can't win a

802
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: national championship there. Anymore this is not the late. Eighties

803
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: the sport's changed and certain parts of it have left you,

804
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: by and they've self imposed a ceiling that is below championship.

805
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: ALTITUDE i just asked, you, guys do you believe that

806
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: you cannot afford to believe? That if you're At Notre.

807
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,919
Speaker 1: Dame you can't afford to believe it if you're a fan.

808
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: EITHER i don't believe. It, GRANTED i think it's harder

809
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: there than it is a place Like. TEXAS i don't

810
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 1: believe in the ceiling theory because that would indicate it's

811
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: impossible to win a national title At Notre dame from

812
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: this point.

813
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 2: Moving, forward AND i don't believe. THAT i believe it is.

814
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: Possible it's not a prediction for this year or next

815
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: year or any given, year But i'm telling YOU i

816
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 1: think it's possible. THERE i think it's possible With Marcus

817
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 1: freeman and his. Staff SO i don't think any kind

818
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: of change at the top. Either it takes a. Spark

819
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: it's pure like dancing in the. Dark you can't start

820
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: a fire without a.

821
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 2: Spark but that's really what it. Takes and that spark

822
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 2: could be one.

823
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: Player it could be one, upset it could be one recruiting,

824
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: class it could be one coordinator higher it could be

825
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: one confluence of.

826
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 2: Events we watched it happen With.

827
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 1: Clemson football last, decade and all of a, sudden people

828
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: went from saying little Old clemson And clemson's got one

829
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: of those ceilings imposed on, them to all of a,

830
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: Sudden clemsons in the title game every. Year it's not

831
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 1: an apples to apples, comparison but it is a comparison

832
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: that fits well enough to use. Here the idea you

833
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: can't win a title At Notre, dame.

834
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 2: Well think about it this.

835
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 1: Way this is where it sounds a little, negative BUT

836
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: i don't think it. Is the idea that you can

837
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 1: win a national championship At Notre dame does not exist

838
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: in the minds of a lot of younger kids and.

839
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: Recruits you just have to change the way they. Think

840
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: it's as simple as. That LIKE i, said With, clemson

841
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 1: once upon a time not too long, ago no one

842
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: ever looked At clemson and Said i'm going there BECAUSE

843
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: i can win a national championship, there or if.

844
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 2: They said, it they got laughed. At but then some kids.

845
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: Went there and they won national championships. Plural now no

846
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: one laughs at that. Anymore if they get it done

847
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: At Notre, dame no one would laugh at it. THERE

848
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 1: i think it's possible to get it done. There it would,

849
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: take LIKE i, said the right. Spark but if you're

850
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: A Notre dame, fan that's all you got left pull.

851
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: For everything else is pretty much in. Place it's a

852
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: really really rock solid. Culture so you can shake the

853
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 1: tree as much as you. Want you, know some pine

854
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: cones and leaves and twigs may fall, off but you're

855
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: not toppling the.

856
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 2: Tree so what's left to?

857
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: Do climb the last rung of the, ladder that's literally

858
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: what's left to. DO i had a question from one

859
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: of you THAT i wanted to address, because as you,

860
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: know OR i think you, know we've been on the

861
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: road talking all these head coaches and you have seen.

862
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: Them the interviews are on the YouTube. Channel WHAT i

863
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 1: WISH i could, do LIKE i told you the other,

864
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: night IS i wish THAT i could wear one of.

865
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: These and this is a live mic because my physical

866
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: mic is stored away somewhere right. Now we'll find, it

867
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: we'll get it. Back BUT i WISH i could wear,

868
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 1: this or maybe just wear a wire or a miner's,

869
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: helmet you, know with a camera on. It AND i

870
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: really wish THAT i could let you guys hear some

871
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: of the off record conversation from coaches and gms and

872
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: whatnot this time of. Year it's fascinating makes. Me you,

873
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: know you can envy the, paycheck but, boy the role

874
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: some of these guys are, IN i don't envy.

875
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 2: IT i don't envy.

876
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: It now with that in, Mind jeff hit me up and, said,

877
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: hey how important is springball in this era of college?

878
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: Football who knows how many players are still on your

879
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: roster after? Spring you could lose multiple starters and have

880
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: to start from where you. Started, Yes, jeff you can.

881
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: So spring to me is both more different than it's ever,

882
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: been but also more important than it's ever. Been you

883
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: are about to see the, harsh violent reality of the

884
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: no rules transfer portal era on full display later this.

885
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 2: Month i'm not overstating.

886
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: This it will be the wildest transfer portal era that

887
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: you've ever, seen and it's going to completely gut some

888
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: of your. Teams just call it like it, is and

889
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: some of you are also going to become national championship

890
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: contenders that don't think you are coming out of spring

891
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: football and it's going to be. Amazing, well it's going

892
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: to be amazing to. Witness it's going to be a.

893
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:37,439
Speaker 2: Nightmare to be a part.

894
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: Of so imagine the paranoia amongst college football coaches right.

895
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 1: Now i've been knee deep in it lately Because i've

896
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: been talking to him. NonStop think about the idea that

897
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 1: this in spring is the most crucial team building portion

898
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: of your, season and you don't know who your team.

899
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,959
Speaker 1: Is you don't know if you may be given first

900
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: or second team tight end reps to a guy, that

901
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 1: unbeknownst to, you has been in contact with half a dozen,

902
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: schools and he's on his way out the door after,

903
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: spring after spring being the key words, there when The

904
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: hayes already in the. Barn the next thing you're going

905
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 1: to do is summer, workouts which you are not allowed to,

906
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: observe and then you got some time with. Them but

907
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: by and large it's fall. Camp that's the next thing

908
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 1: on the. Horizon and all of a Sudden gary's out

909
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 1: the door because he got a better offer from somewhere.

910
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 2: Else is it, Legal, yes it.

911
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 1: Is is it wonderful for the kids short term, FINANCIALLY

912
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 1: i suppose it. Is is it good for the Sport,

913
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: no UNEQUIVOCALLY i would argue it's not for, anyone the players,

914
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 1: included because there's more to becoming an elite football player

915
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: than getting paid in. College that's my personal. OPINION i

916
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: am not lobbying to be sent To Capitol hill anytime.

917
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: Soon imagine the paranoia, though the paranoia on how you divide.

918
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: REPS i talked to coordinator last week who, said my

919
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: best player we're unsure about at a specific. Position he,

920
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: said we're not giving him first team reps in the.

921
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: Spring we're hoping to send a message to, him but

922
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: we're really just trying to give reps to guys we

923
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: know are going to be.

924
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 2: Here we don't know if he's going to be.

925
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: Here we, hope so we, think so we don't, Know

926
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: so think about getting accurate. Intel how do you know

927
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: the feedback you're getting from your guys is the real.

928
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: Feedback there is a premier defensive player in the sport

929
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: right now going to be on the cover of a

930
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: lot of preseason magazines if he stays with his current,

931
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: team going to be on all kinds of All american

932
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,919
Speaker 1: preseason watch. Lists and he's on the, market And i'm

933
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: not sure his team even. Knows it's just it's the

934
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: state of affairs right, Now like that's the condition of

935
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,439
Speaker 1: college football right, now think about having to scout other,

936
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: rosters other, rosters if you're being real about, it you

937
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: have to know about if you're going to lose, guys

938
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 1: you have to know who's, available and in some cases

939
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 1: you have to be. Proactive we talked To Mac brown

940
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 1: about this a couple of weeks. Ago Mac brown, SAID

941
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: i know it's going, on AND i know if we did,

942
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: it we could probably go get some.

943
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 2: Players he, Said.

944
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: I'm just not going to do it if it cost us,

945
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: games if it costs us a competitive. Advantage but in

946
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: the interim it means that we don't circumvent.

947
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 2: Rules i'm happy with. That i'm content with.

948
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: That most coaches would not echo that, sentiment or if

949
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 1: they did, publicly they'd be lying to you because most

950
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: of them are well down the road of gathering the

951
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,439
Speaker 1: most intel they can on their, guys finding out their weak,

952
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: points and then going and proactively scouting and reaching out

953
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: to other.

954
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 2: Rosters what's going to. Happen you know what's going to. Happen, ALSO.

955
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: I remember last week when we were With Hugh, freeze

956
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: he said it really, Well auburn's about to be a

957
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: huge player in the Portal auburn is trying to get

958
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: better on the defensive the defensive line at, least and,

959
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 1: so for, EXAMPLE i Asked freeze last, WEEK i, said,

960
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: hey how do you like? This how weird is it

961
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 1: to be going through the latter portion of spring practice

962
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: and you don't really even know if those guys are

963
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: going to be on your team this fall and you

964
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: could go get pieces that fundamentally alter your football. Team

965
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 1: and he was, LIKE i don't like it at, all

966
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 1: but it kind of. Is he, SAID i hate the

967
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: idea of a twenty four hour. Recruitment that was a

968
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: really good way to put. It never heard anyone put

969
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 1: it that Way back in the. Day you, know until

970
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: like thirty minutes, ago recruitments were multi year processes where

971
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: you saw the kid as a sophomore in high. School

972
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 1: you got to know his, mom, dad, aunt, uncle, sister nephew's,

973
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: cousins high school, coaches position, coaches and you forge your.

974
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 1: Relationship and then whoever recruited in best went, out and

975
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: now there's guys that you don't even know are possible

976
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: ads for your team that all of a sudden are

977
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: on the, radar and you've got to for lack of

978
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: a better, term vet them over the span of about

979
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: twelve to twenty four. Hours you can't afford to be

980
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 1: more thorough than, that or else someone is going to

981
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: cut the corner on you and take them for. Themselves

982
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: and is it? Legal, yeah but legal? Illegal forget about

983
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: that for a. Second is that really the best path

984
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: for college? Football it's a horrific path for college. Football

985
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: that's me. Talking that's not any of, them although most

986
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: of them would agree with. That it's, me as a

987
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: fan of this, sport telling you it's not the way

988
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: it should. Be it's not the way it should. Be

989
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 1: there will be legal, minds there will be nil centric

990
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: folks who clip that and they'll, say, well shame on

991
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: you for not wanting those kids to get, theirs or,

992
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: well it's all. LEGAL i know, THAT i know that

993
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 1: it's not what's. BEST i care about the game LIKE

994
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: i care about what's best for the, game AND i

995
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 1: don't think that's what's best for the. Game side, note

996
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 1: since we're talking about spring games and spring, PRACTICE.

997
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,959
Speaker 2: I will make my annual spring game.

998
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:58,280
Speaker 1: Plea When I'm College Football, COMMISSIONER i will heavily incentivize

999
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: and even plea for real football games or make shift

1000
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,280
Speaker 1: versions of real football games to be played in. Spring

1001
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: because When I'm College Football, commissioner we will finally put

1002
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: into practice the idea that instead of PLAYING fcs teams

1003
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: in the, fall you could and should schedule them as

1004
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 1: your spring. Opponent And i've GOT cbs AND nbc And

1005
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: fox in THE espn over here who would love the spring.

1006
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 1: Inventory And i've got a big fat paycheck FOR ufcs

1007
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 1: teams to come, in take your, lumps but also learn

1008
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 1: valuable information about your, team and provide a real life

1009
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: opponent for that, team just as you would in the,

1010
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: fall except we're not calling it a regular season. Game

1011
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: and how this is not happening is beyond. Me so

1012
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 1: much progress quote unquote being made in this sport and

1013
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,959
Speaker 1: yet we're still not playing games for. Spring now here's

1014
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 1: WHAT i didn't just. Say WHAT i didn't say is

1015
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 1: When I'm College Football, COMMISSIONER i will mandate that everyone

1016
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: plays a legitimate opponent for their spring. GAME i don't

1017
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: care if you do or, not BUT i want you,

1018
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: to And i'm heavily incentivizing you, too and i will

1019
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: look on you with a favorable eye if you choose.

1020
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: To it should be common sense that you should want,

1021
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: to but you don't have. To you. Know it's kind

1022
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: of like WHEN i was playing baseball At Harris, county

1023
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: we had voluntary. Conditioning you didn't have. To you didn't have.

1024
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 1: To Coach Mark gilrith down there could not legally make

1025
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: you show up At Harris County High school at fiveoint

1026
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: thirty am to run until you. Puke it was probably

1027
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 1: in your best, interest but who's to say you have. To,

1028
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:41,280
Speaker 1: Anyway let's move. On now it's really time to. Dream

1029
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: i'm gonna proactively paper pop it. Here the paper, pop

1030
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: for those, unfamiliar is just when things get. Serious you

1031
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 1: need a sort of device in the show to make

1032
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: sure people who are, listening especially the podcast, crowd.

1033
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 2: Knows that things are.

1034
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: Serious BECAUSE i could do a segment with no paper

1035
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 1: and it's just a, segment but all of a sudden

1036
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 1: you hear. That all of a, sudden people, say, hey shut, up,

1037
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: babe that was a paper. Pop he must be talking

1038
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: about something, serious and he is he being? Me Because

1039
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: christian hit me up and said quarterbacks and offensive players

1040
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: are the typical favorites to win The heisman every. Year

1041
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: but is there a defensive player you think could make

1042
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 1: a case this. Year if, so why From, Woodstock. Georgia,

1043
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: Yes i've got, one, two, three, four five of. Them

1044
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: this is never going to, happen but you need to

1045
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: let me dream on. This Travis hunter is the most

1046
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: dynamic player in college football right, now plays both, ways

1047
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: a phenomenal. CORNER i still am not sure how THE

1048
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: nfl views. Him i've heard, reports but, Like i'm really

1049
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: interested to see how THE nfl conversation evolves with him this.

1050
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: Year but then, Again i'm not Because i'm a college football.

1051
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 2: Guy Travis.

1052
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: Hunter, yeah If colorado especially overachieves record wise this, year

1053
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: he would be a prime, candidate probably in terms of being,

1054
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:59,760
Speaker 1: dynamic the most likely candidate to be a Defensive heisman

1055
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 1: guy because it wouldn't just be defense for. Him Caleb

1056
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: downs is another defensive back THAT i THINK i need

1057
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: to put in this. Conversation So Caleb downs is At

1058
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: Ohio state by way Of. Alabama Caleb down's the only

1059
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: thing That i'm waiting to hear about from him is

1060
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 1: is he a good fit At Ohio? State do they

1061
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: plug him in that defense and have him look like

1062
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: the star that he, Is because if it's a good

1063
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,720
Speaker 1: fit up, there like if the puzzle piece is connect

1064
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,320
Speaker 1: the football part takes care of. Itself he's one of

1065
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: the best football players in the country last year as

1066
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: a true freshman At alabama and will be the exact,

1067
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: same if not, better as a sophomore stud in every

1068
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: sense of the.

1069
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 2: Word, So Caleb.

1070
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: Downs If Ohio state is a team that wins this

1071
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: year and they are a defensive minded, team both of

1072
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: which could very well, happen Maybe Caleb downs is the

1073
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: face of. That in a related, note what IF lsu

1074
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: is better than expected defensively this. Year ls you brought

1075
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,959
Speaker 1: in an almost an entirely new defensive. Staff i'm big

1076
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 1: fans of the guys virtually across the. Board Harold perk

1077
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: felt like he disappeared on us last year through no

1078
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 1: fault of his. Own what if he has sort of

1079
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: a resurgent year this. Year the raw talents, there no

1080
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: one doubts, that or if you, do it's very very ill.

1081
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 1: Advised but what if that new coaching staff utilizes him

1082
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: in a way that sees him burst back on the national,

1083
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: scene and then maybe that coincides WITH lsu making a

1084
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: little run in THE. Sec if he's the face of,

1085
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: THAT i could See Harold perkins being right back in that.

1086
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: Conversation But i'll tell you're talking about be in the

1087
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: face of. Something imagine with me, Here imagine a world

1088
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: Where miami's back.

1089
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 2: Is everyone with?

1090
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: Me, NO i THINK i already lost some of. You, Okay,

1091
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: well LIKE i, said just give me benefit of the.

1092
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 1: Doubt here for the sake of, Argument imagine a world

1093
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: it's Late, November miami is clinching a trip.

1094
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:00,879
Speaker 2: To THE acc championship.

1095
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: Game they go win THE acc And Ruben bain is

1096
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: the face of the. Team the first part you may,

1097
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 1: doubt but if you grant me that it could, happen

1098
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: how many other guys are equipped to be the face

1099
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: of that than Ruben. Bain he was one of the

1100
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: best players on the. Team he was one of the

1101
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 1: best football players on their team last year as a.

1102
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: Freshman i've been down there to watch a couple of other,

1103
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: practices and especially when they close those doors and you

1104
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 1: see that dude, practice it's, incredible like you've seen him.

1105
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: Play just watching him, practice watch him walk around the

1106
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: building with those other. GUYS i remember we were down

1107
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: there last year IN i think it was, spring and

1108
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 1: you're just kind of pointing out the most impressive physical.

1109
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 1: Specimens and then you've got like Cam gorbio over here saying, freshman, freshman.

1110
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: Freshman but then you look At bain and they, go, yeah,

1111
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: yeah he's different even than the rest of the.

1112
00:55:55,920 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 2: Freshmen, well what's his sophomore performance this? Year look? Like

1113
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 2: we'll see it Takes miami being.

1114
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: Back part of that conversation is the team part and

1115
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: the other parts of the individual.

1116
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 2: Part And James.

1117
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: Pierce junior At tennessee paper pop BECAUSE i think that's

1118
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 1: the least recognizable name on this, list but maybe not for.

1119
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: Long he was already one of the highest graded players

1120
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: at defensive end in the country last. YEAR i THINK

1121
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:22,240
Speaker 1: pff may have had him as the top graded defensive

1122
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: end in THE. Sec but don't quote me on. That

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1124
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Speaker 1: That it Hit Bill martin with any. Questions he's set

1125
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Speaker 1: to BECOME i think a household name this. Year, now

1126
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: this is probably the biggest reach because If tennessee has

1127
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 1: a good year this, year it's probably because offensively they

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Speaker 1: were a, juggernaut and so it may not matter What

1129
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 1: James Pierce junior, does it will to. Us but to

1130
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Speaker 1: A heisman, voter there Are heisman voters who if you've

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Speaker 1: Crazy that's what Most heisman voters pins would do if

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Speaker 1: happen those are the five Names i'd look. At, now

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Speaker 1: let's just say it did happen this. YEAR i do

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Speaker 1: i want you to look at this question or listen

1192
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Speaker 1: to this if you're on. Podcast Sooner's rule hit me and,

1193
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Speaker 1: said who are some under the radar quarterbacks who could

1194
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 1: have a big impact on the twenty twenty four. Season

1195
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: how do we define under the? RADAR i Think kyle

1196
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: McCord's under the, Radar but Yet.

1197
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 2: Kyle McCort started For Ohio state last.

1198
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 1: YEAR i think he's under the radar because many a

1199
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Speaker 1: college football fan can't even tell me where he's playing right. Now,

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Speaker 1: now if you're listening or watching this, show you are

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1202
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Speaker 2: Se and you know he went To.

1203
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 1: Syracuse they've been getting great reviews from him up At

1204
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 1: syracuse during. Spring AND i don't claim That Peyton state

1205
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 1: is Your syracuse football headquarters or anything like that When

1206
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: i'm paying, attention AND i don't think enough people. Are

1207
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 1: he was a sixty six percent completion rate guy last.

1208
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 1: Year he has big game, experience and you know what

1209
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: that schedules not exactly a murderer's row this, year so

1210
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 1: you got Experience Fran brown in his first.

1211
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 2: Year the league doesn't know what to.

1212
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 1: Expect remember When malson walked into THE sec once upon

1213
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: a time and all of a, sudden there they are

1214
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 1: playing for a national championship and people are, like, well

1215
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 1: the high school coach From. Arkansas it can happen that.

1216
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 1: Way i'm just, saying if it does At, syracuse it'll

1217
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 1: be because Of kyle. McCord how About Will rogers played

1218
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 1: like seventeen years At Mississippi. State where is he quick

1219
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 1: quiz question?

1220
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 2: There Where's Will? Rogers will leaves At?

1221
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 1: Washington? Now lost in all the talk about the coaching

1222
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 1: transition and the roster churn At washington is the idea

1223
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 1: that not only did they Get Will, rogers but he's

1224
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 1: being put back in a system custom built for. Him

1225
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 1: that wasn't the case last. Year it was an oil

1226
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 1: and water situation in his last year At Mississippi, State

1227
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: but now is At. Washington and for all of the

1228
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 1: unknowns around, there one of the THINGS i THINK i

1229
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 1: do know Is jedfish will Put Will rogers in an

1230
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 1: uptempo spread based offense that is perfectly built for his skill.

1231
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,479
Speaker 1: Set he could throw four thousand yards this. Year maybe

1232
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 1: they go six and. SIX i don't, know BUT i

1233
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: Think Will rogers is in a lot better position this.

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Speaker 1: Year and even if they don't achieve anything of note record,

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Speaker 1: wise they Play, michigan they PLAY usc they Play Penn,

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Speaker 1: state they Play. Oregon who could they knock? Off that's

1237
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Speaker 1: the other thing to think. About Roc o, BECKS, i,

1238
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Speaker 1: yeah i'll tell.

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Speaker 2: You i'll tell you in a. Second, Yeah i'll tell.

1240
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: You, Okay so, first, firstly if you don't know What

1241
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Speaker 1: i'm talking about, Here roco becked At Iowa, state one

1242
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 1: of the most under the radar underrated quarterbacks in college.

1243
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 1: Football he started in thirteen games last year At Iowa,

1244
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 1: state and their top five in returning production this, year

1245
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 1: and we were up there a few weeks. Ago AND

1246
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 1: i want to tell you that kid had. Offers he's

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Speaker 1: a really good, Player he's going to be a really good.

1248
01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 1: Player and he could have left there and shows not

1249
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 1: To and it's not necessarily because.

1250
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 2: Dollar for dollar was.

1251
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 1: Matched He's Iowa, state and not only does he know,

1252
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 1: that not only does his family know. That the locker

1253
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 1: room knows, it the building knows, it the coaching staff knows.

1254
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 1: It so you got a really talented kid there coming

1255
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 1: into his. Own you got a good supporting cast around.

1256
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 1: Him you don't have to worry about how stable he.

1257
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 1: Is he is all in because he's already turned down

1258
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: offers that would have suggested. Otherwise And Iowa state this,

1259
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 1: year they go To iowa or they go To iowa

1260
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:33,919
Speaker 1: in week two and then it's it's a bunch Of North,

1261
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Speaker 1: Dakota Arkansas, State. Houston they do not open with a

1262
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 1: front loaded. Schedule it doesn't mean they can't get, beaten

1263
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 1: but it means there's a path there Where Iowa state

1264
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 1: goes from being totally off of everyone's radar except from,

1265
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 1: mine to being in the thick of The big twelve championship.

1266
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 1: Race guess who they close. With they end With Kansas

1267
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 1: state in aimes eleven, thirty not. Am It's november, thirtieth

1268
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 1: and they play utahll the week. Before so backstretch is,

1269
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 1: tough but at least you know what you've got by. Them,

1270
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 1: hey does anyone know Where Tyler Van dyke? Is as

1271
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: it turns, out these were a lot of transfers And

1272
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 1: Rock obeck and one more guy in a, Second Tyler

1273
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 1: Van dykes In. Wisconsin he was At miami last. Year

1274
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 1: a lot of ups and, downs too many downs last.

1275
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 1: Year turnovers were just a big. ISSUE i think it

1276
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 1: got to him mentally a little. Bit we've seen both

1277
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 1: sides of. HIM i, mean he's obviously got the potential

1278
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 1: to do really good, things BUT i think they need

1279
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 1: a strong cast around, him and they need a really

1280
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 1: strong start this year BECAUSE i think he is a

1281
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 1: guy that has to shake those cobwebs of last year.

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Speaker 1: Out but if he starts feeling himself man, Like wisconsin

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Speaker 1: is not going to be the program that just leans on.

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Speaker 1: Quarterback they're gonna have good players around, him good, scheme good,

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Speaker 1: plan good culture in. Place you're two Under Luke. Fickle

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Speaker 1: maybe they do something this. Year they Got bama in

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Speaker 1: Their week, three they go TO usc week, Four they've

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Speaker 1: Got Penn, State they've Got, oregon so they got a

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Speaker 1: lot of the big boys they're playing this. Year and,

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Speaker 1: lastly but not, Leastly Jalen daniels is At kansas and

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Speaker 1: there was all that talk about whether he go in the,

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Speaker 1: portal and he. Didn't the talk is about the back.

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01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 1: Injury if he recovers from that back injury and is

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Speaker 1: able to be his former, self it seems like he's been.

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01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 1: Forgotten and if he's back to his former, Self kansas

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01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 1: can win The Big. Twelve Like kansas could be a

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Speaker 1: college football.

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Speaker 2: Playoff team point.

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Speaker 1: Blank you heard, me, right and it would be possibly

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01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 1: because of. Him but also they've got a great schedule.

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Speaker 1: Draw so you, know look at this, point If kansas

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Speaker 1: is sneaking up on, you that's your. Fault they do

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01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 1: have a very interesting situation this year where they can't

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Speaker 1: play at, home so they've got to play some games In,

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01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 1: arrowhead and they got to play some games in A

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Speaker 1: SPORTING kcs, STADIUM i, believe check me on the soccer

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Speaker 1: stadium references. There But, daniels, yeah he ALSO i think

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01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 1: belongs on this.

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Speaker 2: List we've gone like an hour four.

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Speaker 1: Minutes, look there are some people out there on vacation

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01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 1: and that's, great and there's some people out there who

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Speaker 1: are choosing to just recognize the off season and that's.

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01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 1: Wonderful that's your constitutional. Right but It's april right, now

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01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 1: and if anything we've added shows. Recently NOW i didn't

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01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 1: want to tell you. THIS i don't even celebrate my own.

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01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 1: Birthday SO i wasn't going to make a big deal

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01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 1: just because this is our five hundred. Show but this

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Speaker 1: is our five hundred, show and SO i wanted to

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01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 1: do a couple of. THINGS i wanted to thank. You

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01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 1: we didn't necessarily plan the, confetti but there's the. Confetti

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Speaker 1: AND i also wanted to let you know that there's

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Speaker 1: a whole lot coming to the show this year that

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Speaker 1: you haven't seen. Before but it's not. Bad it's all,

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Speaker 1: good and a lot of it's. Cosmetic some of it

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Speaker 1: will be content. Wise BUT i just want to promise,

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Speaker 1: you AS i told you at the outset when we

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Speaker 1: started having success, here we're not changing anything about the

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Speaker 1: show because that would be, stupid because we're going to

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Speaker 1: do what got us.

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Speaker 2: Here number.

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Speaker 1: TWO i can't really be specific on, this BUT i

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Speaker 1: want you to know because of, you, guys this is

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Speaker 1: the most consumed college football show in digital, media and

1334
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Speaker 1: you've been able to change a lot of people's lives

1335
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Speaker 1: because of. That whenever they want to tell that, story

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Speaker 1: that's their. Business but because of you listening to this

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Speaker 1: show and watching this, show there are some people in

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Speaker 1: good places now that may not have been in the

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Speaker 1: best of places this time three four years. Ago SO

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Speaker 1: i thank you Because i'm one of those. PEOPLE i thank,

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Speaker 1: you but also they thank, you and they're not necessarily

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Speaker 1: wearing a mic on camera or anything like, that nor

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Speaker 1: do they desire it to. Be but we will not

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Speaker 1: change anything about. This we will add to. It and for,

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Speaker 1: example you, KNOW i TOLD cbs a few years back

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Speaker 1: when they ask what would you love to? Do give

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Speaker 1: an infinite, resource what would you love to? DO i told,

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Speaker 1: them if you give me infinite, resource we won't even

1349
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Speaker 1: be In nashville during the. Spring we'll just go live on.

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Speaker 1: CAMPUSES i think they thought they were calling my. Bluff,

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Speaker 1: well they gave us the resources and we're on the.

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Speaker 1: Road we're hitting like twenty schools this, spring just getting

1353
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Speaker 1: As i'm trying to get you as much access as you.

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Speaker 1: Can coaches have been great because most of them listen

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01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:23,759
Speaker 1: to or watch the. SHOW a lot of the players

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Speaker 1: out there have been. Great so the other thing that's

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Speaker 1: happened is we've been able to really really refine the

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Speaker 1: filter through which our information goes. Through we don't have

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Speaker 1: to guess. Anymore in other, words we've got, really really

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Speaker 1: solid sourcing to where we can shape the stuff that

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Speaker 1: is said on this show in a manner that's, accurate

1362
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 1: instead of throwing darts at a. Board And i've done

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Speaker 1: it both ways once upon a time back In, Columbus,

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Speaker 1: GEORGIA i had the same access as anyone else, did

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Speaker 1: AND i guessed my way through it like everyone else.

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Speaker 2: Did it's much nicer to not have to do.

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Speaker 1: That so a lot of personnel folks out, there a

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Speaker 1: lot of coaches and, players we appreciate, it every one of.

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Speaker 2: You we appreciate. It onward enoughward we don't.

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Speaker 1: Even remotely consider ourselves having arrived BECAUSE i don't really

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Speaker 1: still think we scratch the surface of what the show can.

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Speaker 1: Be but it will always be formatted with you in.

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Speaker 1: MIND i do promise you. That so for our folks,

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Speaker 1: here many of whom had to work overtime to even

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Speaker 1: get this physical space, ready and that's very much appreciated as.

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Speaker 1: Well and our folks done In Fort. Lauderdale I'm Josh

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Speaker 1: bate gonna do a Late kick extra On, tuesday so

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Speaker 1: that's podcast, only so make sure you subscribe to the

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Speaker 1: Thursday i'm going to be In Fort Lauderdale Live, sunday

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Speaker 1: and then we'll be back on the road for three

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Speaker 1: More Paate State Speaker Series destination stops next, week so

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Speaker 1: they can call it the off season.

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Speaker 2: If they want.

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Speaker 1: To we don't even recognize the word. Here see you

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