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Speaker 2: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntire. What is up?

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Speaker 3: Straight firefam, It's made Jason McIntyre Straight Fired for Wednesday,

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Speaker 3: January seventeenth, Folks, I did not expect the NBA to

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Speaker 3: open the podcast in the middle of January, in the

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Speaker 3: middle of the week, but Yo Kich and Embiid throwing

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Speaker 3: haymakers in a pretty damn good NBA Tuesday Night game.

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Speaker 3: I'll say this about the league. Great job scheduling the

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Speaker 3: Nuggets and Sixers for basically, like, you know, nearing the

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Speaker 3: end of the NFL season. I think there's seven NFL

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Speaker 3: games left and you get this as a Marquee TV game.

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Speaker 3: Really nice job by the NBA. A little later in

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Speaker 3: the pod, I will rank, along with Rob g the

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Speaker 3: eight best quarterbacks left in the NFL playoffs by the

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Speaker 3: season they've had. Okay, so, just because Patrick Mahomes is

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Speaker 3: the greatest quarterback of all time, you know, we've been

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Speaker 2: He has not had a great season.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about that, and we will dabble in this

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Speaker 3: Austin Reeves nonsense that's out there. You know, I'm a

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Speaker 3: big Austin Reeves guy, But let me quickly start with

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Speaker 3: the Nuggets and Sixers before we get to the NFL. Listen,

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Speaker 3: the NBA right now is just I know. Listen, if

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Speaker 3: you're one of those guys who hates the NBA, I

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Speaker 3: get it. I'm not trying to convince you to like

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Speaker 3: the NBA. I loved Michael Jordan and Magic and nineties

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Speaker 2: It stinks now.

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Speaker 3: I get if you're one of those guys, like I

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Speaker 3: get it, you just don't. You don't like the sport.

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Speaker 3: The reality is the basketball has never been better. The

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Speaker 3: halftime score of Nugget Sixers, featuring two of the incredible offenses,

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Speaker 3: was seventy eight to seventy eight. Okay, this game was insane.

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Speaker 3: The shot making so the Nuggets shot fifty percent forty

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Speaker 3: percent from three. The Sixers, who won the game by five,

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Speaker 3: shot fifty six percent forty eight percent from.

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Speaker 2: Three, forty eight percent from three. Fifteen threes made. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the game was incredible. Denver dominated inside.

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Speaker 3: Jokic had more offensive boards eleven than the double of

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Speaker 3: what the Sixers had, which is five. But when you're

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Speaker 3: and Joel Embiid, the defending MVP, goes for forty one

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Speaker 3: to ten. It was tied at one eleven. Fourth quarter,

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Speaker 3: We're like, okay, we got a game, we got something here,

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Speaker 3: and then mb just goes off three a great pass

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Speaker 3: It was just an incredible performance there from Embiid. And

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Speaker 3: I know, I get it, not a ton of defense

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Speaker 3: being played, but toe to toe mvs. Embiid versus Yokic,

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Speaker 3: and the Nuggets, by the way, went into the fourth

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Speaker 3: leading and Embiid just took over.

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Speaker 2: According to yeah.

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Speaker 3: The game log here, when it was one to eleven,

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Speaker 3: all MAXI scored a bucket, but then Embiid scored and

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Speaker 3: beat hit a nineteen footer and one and b twenty

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Speaker 3: like scored all of the points late a free throw.

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Speaker 3: I mean basically he scored all their points for like

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Speaker 3: a six minute stretch. It took over the game. Really

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Speaker 3: impressive stuff from Joel Embiid. I know I'm not the

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Speaker 3: biggest Sixers lover here. I just I'm not a believer

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Speaker 3: in this team. I've got to see it in the postseason. Sorry,

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Speaker 3: they're really really good, I get it. Currently they are

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Speaker 3: third in the East. Meanwhile, Lakers check Lakers with the

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Speaker 3: A day after walking out on a media question at

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Speaker 3: the podium on Monday about his future and one year

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Speaker 3: left on the contract, Mike Tomlin says he will be

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Speaker 3: back next season for the Pittsburgh Steelers. That's a big

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Speaker 3: win for Pittsburgh. I did wonder if maybe there was

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Speaker 3: a chance. Tomlin says, you know what, Burrow's back next year,

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Speaker 3: Lawrence Aing's staying down forever, Rogers is back. AFC's just loaded.

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Speaker 3: I got freakin' Pickett, Rudolph or Trubisky there.

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Speaker 3: I don't think at twenty or whatever that's going to

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Speaker 3: I'm getting the most out of my team. Maybe I

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Speaker 3: just say, let me go do TV. But because he

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Speaker 3: he still has that year left, so if he were

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Speaker 3: to go to TV, he would then have to be like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I'm coming back and I don't want to go to Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 3: so you got to trade for me for the final year.

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Speaker 3: So it seems like tom I'm get saying. Tomlin thought

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Speaker 3: seriously considering fading Pittsburgh next year because Mike Tomlin's got

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Speaker 3: enough of a body of work rob that he's gonna

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Speaker 3: get a job regardless if they go five and twelve

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Speaker 3: next year. Tomlin has built up enough equity. He very

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Speaker 3: few coaches do more with less than Mike Tomlin. He

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Speaker 3: is just an excellent coach. He's just in a crap situation. Listen,

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Speaker 3: we saw the Dolphins when they lost Dan Marino wander

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Speaker 3: And like, this is just early stages, folks, Like the

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Speaker 2: Guess what, this is just the beginning.

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Speaker 3: It is tough to find a quarterback, which is why

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Speaker 3: a second. But Rob, I guess I'm not. I'm well,

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Speaker 3: it goes my alarm. I'm not totally surprised that Mike

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Speaker 3: Tomlin is sticking around for one more year. Although I'll

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Speaker 3: tell you right now I will be fading the Steelers

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm not super surprised that. Well, again, he

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Speaker 1: He wouldn't. He didn't say that, right. He's like, I'm

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Speaker 1: I really like Mike Tomlin. I would love he was

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I it would be a really bad look to

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Speaker 3: Right, it was like, was it Kellen Moore who everybody

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Speaker 3: it didn't work out great. I mean, he's only Kellen Moore.

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Speaker 3: Mike AD's got a Super Bowl win. He like you said,

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Speaker 3: it's bleak bro It's essentially Russell Wilson via trade justin fields.

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Speaker 3: It just it doesn't feel like there's a lot of options.

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Speaker 3: Could Does Daniel Jones excite you in Witsburg?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: None of those guys do anything. But without a quarterback

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Speaker 3: you can't win. And yeah, I don't know, Rob Now

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Speaker 3: I do wonder would Tomlin you think just hang it

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Speaker 3: not really, Let's be realistic. The Bucks were underdogs at home.

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Speaker 3: like absolutely, paramount rob. Let me ask you this. If

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Speaker 3: this season, Okay, I'm going eight Baker Mayfield and this

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Speaker 3: Then I would go Jared Goff at seven. This season.

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Speaker 2: This season, I'm going Patrick Mahomes at six. Wow O,

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Speaker 3: All right. I mean, honestly, Jordan Loves been better than

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Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes this season. He's doing it with young, nobody receivers. Right,

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Speaker 3: he's a first year starter. He's had a better season

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Speaker 3: I would go c J Stroud at four. C J

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Speaker 3: Stroud's been unbelievable. I've been slow to come around. Brock

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Speaker 3: I would go to Josh Allen because literally Alan put

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Speaker 3: And Lamar I would go one because you know he's

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Speaker 3: point five, Lamar Jackson eight point seven, Rock Purty eight

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Speaker 2: Eight point six, Patrick Mahomes six point six.

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Speaker 3: That's lower than Mayfield. Mayfield eight point five. Like Mahomes

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Speaker 3: lot of checkdown stuff. This has been one of his

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Speaker 3: But even the success rate for for Patrick Mahomes forty

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Speaker 2: Straut, by the way, led the league in air yards

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Speaker 3: Like deep ball throwing Pro Football Focus, I mean, she

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Speaker 3: Jay Stroud is the best quarterback in the league this year.

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Speaker 3: That's it's not hyperple. You look at the numbers, and

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Speaker 3: And then it's like Dak Prescott, but Dak Prescott's eliminated

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Speaker 3: know it's a hot take of people are gonna get angry,

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Speaker 3: look quarterback rating anything, like it's not knocking Mahomes. Is

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Speaker 3: Of course, you don't win MVPs and go to Super

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Speaker 3: the reality and my dog's upset with me, Buddi's like, Jay, Jay,

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like it's a lot of dink and

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Speaker 2: Are you ready for this? In the Divisional round Tour?

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Speaker 1: You know what when you first said it, I was

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Speaker 1: taken aback because like, how could anybody have Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 1: two of those five. I keep digging as you're talking.

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Speaker 1: And at first glance, it seems fine, right, Like, you know,

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Speaker 1: fantastic season. Lamar's quit MVP A Mahomes' Mahomes. And then

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Speaker 1: only based on reputation. Josh Allen had more total touchdowns

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Speaker 1: by fifteen, fourth quarter comebacks, more game winning drives. You

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Speaker 1: know what, Patrick Mahomes, Yes, he is the best quarterback

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Speaker 3: reality is, listen, Mahomes has set a high bar. This

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Speaker 3: in the AFC Championship every year. But by yardage, this

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Speaker 2: As a pro. Now.

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Speaker 3: He had one hundred few yards in twenty nineteen, but

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Speaker 3: This is his fewest touchdown passes. Again, outside of the

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Speaker 3: his weakest quarterback rating, weakest QBR. Like the numbers don't lie.

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Speaker 3: Mahomes has not been great. This doesn't mean he's not great.

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Speaker 3: It's insane. Yes, he can be an all time great. Yes,

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Speaker 3: into this divisional round Riken because Stroud has been so

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Speaker 3: otherworldly and Jordan Love is one of the hottest quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: All the time heater, He's on an all time heater.

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Speaker 3: That's insane, And someone showed the video of his touchdown

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Speaker 2: And and I'm a doubter of Love. I don't know

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Speaker 3: We've got like a fifteen sixteen game sample of Jordan Love,

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Speaker 3: Like is he awesome? I don't know, but he's sure

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Speaker 1: Flaco's done one too. Yep.

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Speaker 3: and essentially Jordan Love's been out of his mind. Now

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Speaker 3: Now we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 2: I bet the Niners.

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Speaker 3: I'm on the Niners, But I just I wonder if

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Speaker 3: shut that Shanna We said, like, would McCarthy get tight

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Speaker 3: if he fell behind they got down twenty seven to nothing,

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Speaker 3: Shanahan's down entering the fourth.

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Speaker 1: Rob Well history says he's gonna get tight.

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Speaker 3: And now you got Jordan Love versus versus Jared goffa.

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Speaker 2: Rematch of the Thanksgiving Game.

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Speaker 3: I don't know where are you on the Purdy versus Stroud.

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Speaker 3: Heading in the season and Jordan, uh, sorry, c J.

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Speaker 3: He has dragged that franchise into the playoffs and now

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Speaker 2: To me, he's been incredible.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I'll tell you what I already said. I'm

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Speaker 1: me marinate for other seventy two hours. I may go

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Speaker 1: Houston out right. I'm still thinking. I haven't totally shut

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Speaker 1: the door on that possibility. And it's all because of CJ. Stroud. Now,

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Speaker 1: if you had to pick one guy today, I'm picking

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Speaker 1: brock Party because he had the longer body of work

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Speaker 1: and because he.

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Speaker 2: You know, wait, wait, what do you mean pick one guy?

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Speaker 2: What do you trust? The most.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if I just for trusting for this weekend, I'm

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Speaker 1: picking brock Purty ahead of c J. Stroud only because

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Speaker 1: brock party has, again the longer body of work. It's

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Speaker 1: not much longer, it's like eight games longer.

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Speaker 3: Than c J.

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Speaker 1: Stroud, but he's been consistently great basically since he's got

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Speaker 1: into the NFL. Similar to c J. Stroud, he just

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Speaker 1: has another half a season on top of it. However,

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Speaker 1: it's not like it's a super easy decision because, as

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Speaker 1: I said late last week and even a little bit

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Speaker 1: on yesterday's spot, CJ Stroud he has all of those

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Speaker 1: same intangible quarterback you know, quote unquote skills that brock

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Speaker 1: Purty does. Thrown with anticipation, thrown with accuracy, getting to

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Speaker 1: the open man quickly one two, three, boom layer throws

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Speaker 1: hit like the things that you look for in a

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Speaker 1: classic quarterback sense, things that Tua is good at, things

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Speaker 1: that Joe Montana wasn't, things that Tom Brady was great at.

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Speaker 1: But what CJ. Stroud also has is the things that

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Speaker 1: you can't teach, the things that either you have it

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Speaker 1: or you don't, The things that Josh Allen has that

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes has that Lamar Jackson has. So every once

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Speaker 1: in a while you get this perfect marriage where it's

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Speaker 1: the guy who can play quarterback and the classic sense

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Speaker 1: of the word, and the guy who is just a

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Speaker 1: phenomenal playmaker and he can do things that we can

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Speaker 1: only you know, dream of doing. And every once in

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Speaker 1: a while you get a guy who can do both.

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Speaker 1: And CJ. Stroud is that guy who can do both.

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Speaker 2: He's that guy. You're not that guy, past CJ. Stroud,

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Speaker 2: you are that guy.

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Speaker 3: You are all right, quickly, we'll just do I just

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Speaker 3: wanted to do two minutes on this just because the

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Speaker 3: NBA is coming back. But we rob and I love

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Speaker 3: Austin Reeves. And starting January fifteenth, anybody who was signed

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Speaker 3: to that I don't know what it's called, whatever the

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Speaker 3: extension was or the deal that Reeves signed, RUI sign,

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Speaker 3: they were eligible to be traded, not just those two,

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Speaker 3: but a route league wide. So starting January fifteenth, NBA

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Speaker 3: trade talks started to heat up. And I just need

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Speaker 3: to be clear to everyone. I'm not just an Austin

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Speaker 3: Reeves stan who is like a huge fan and I

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Speaker 3: respect his hustle and he's got like one of the

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Speaker 3: best contracts in the league. I'm sorry, Rob, unless I'm

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Speaker 3: getting an All NBA player in return, I'm not trading

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Speaker 3: Austin Now. I'm not saying an All NBA player straight up,

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Speaker 3: but in the package I need an All NBA player

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Speaker 3: if I'm giving up Austin Reeves. I think he is

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Speaker 3: the third best player on the Lakers, and Rob, you

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Speaker 3: can disagree. I think he is gonna be He's proven

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Speaker 3: to be a clutch playoff performer, was excellent in the postseason.

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Speaker 3: He's ascending. The guy was on the Olympic team. He

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Speaker 3: could do so many things. He can create, he can defend,

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Speaker 3: He's long and by the way, fans.

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Speaker 2: We know Laker fans are unhinged. They will revolt if

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Speaker 2: Austin Reeves is traded. I think there will be a.

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Speaker 3: Literal mutiny at Crypto facility. If the Lakers end up

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Speaker 3: moving on Aston Reeves. I just need to get that

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Speaker 3: on the table.

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Speaker 2: Rob.

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Speaker 3: I know you're a big Austin Reeves guy too, but

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Speaker 3: I just they better not trade him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they better than well not trade unless you're getting

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Speaker 1: like Donovan Mitchell in exchange. And you know I'm a

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Speaker 1: big fan of the John Tay Murray, like, he seems

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Speaker 1: to be the guy that everybody's circling as the next

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Speaker 1: future Laker. You know, the clutch sports tie in the

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Speaker 1: Hawks being terrible. But if I'm trading Austin Reeves to

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Speaker 1: get de Jeah Murray, like, to me, that's like a

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Speaker 1: net neutral because the contracts first and foremost. Number one,

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Speaker 1: Austin Ree's making what twelve million and Dejonte's just signed

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Speaker 1: a new extension that's number one. Number two. We already

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Speaker 1: know that Austin Reeves know how to play alongside Lebron

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Speaker 1: and Ad and that's something that you know, you can't

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Speaker 1: discount because part of the issue with being a Laker

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Speaker 1: and playing with Lebron James is as great as he is,

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Speaker 1: it's not easy. You have to work around him, and

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Speaker 1: he's the solar system, you know, like Kevin Love struggled

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Speaker 1: a little bit, Chris Boss struggled a little bit playing

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Speaker 1: with Lebron James. And the fact that Austin Reeves knows

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Speaker 1: how to and he has the trust of those guys,

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Speaker 1: you can't undersell that point, you.

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Speaker 3: Said, Donovan Mitchell, Are you saying that if the Cavs said, hey,

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Speaker 3: we're going to be losing Donovan Mitchell. We'll have a

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Speaker 3: package that includes Austin Reeves and ruly you would take

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Speaker 3: Mitchell for him?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely? Whoa, because he's the all NBA talent you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: Jean is great, but he's.

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Speaker 3: Not I was thinking more Jason Tatum levels. Oh from

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Speaker 3: Jonathan Mitchell doesn't play any defense.

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Speaker 1: Most guys don't play any defense.

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Speaker 2: Austin Rea, who's goarding Jamal Murray in the playoffs from

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Speaker 2: the Lakers?

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Speaker 1: Nobody could ship Dad?

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Speaker 2: You so you would give up Reeves for Mitchell?

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Speaker 3: I need I need some time on this now. I

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Speaker 3: I've got to like get in fudge. I like Mitchell

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Speaker 3: a lot. He's proven postseason scorer. I don't know he

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Speaker 3: doesn't want a ton that's a famous flops He got

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Speaker 3: outplayed head to head by.

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Speaker 2: Who was it on?

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Speaker 3: Uh? Didn't he lose a couple of postseason series that

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Speaker 3: he should have won with the Jazz?

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Speaker 2: He lost?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Jaln Brunson.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he lost to Jaylen Brunson.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know, man, I don't.

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Speaker 3: My gut says no, But I I give me a

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Speaker 3: day to think about it. All right, that's all for today.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk to you tomorrow,