1 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: From Meat Eaters World News headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This 2 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: is Col's Week in Review with Ryan cow Callahan. Here's 3 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: cal as important as they are to attend. No one 4 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: has ever accused of Fish and Wildlife Meeting of being entertaining, 5 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: but there's a first time for everything, and thanks to 6 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: listener David Jacobs, I'm here to bring you one of 7 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: the most memorable moments from a recent gathering of the 8 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: Washington State Fish and Wildlife commission. 9 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 2: My name is John Martin. I'm from Mount Lake Terrace. 10 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: John explains to the commissioners that he's wearing a button 11 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,639 Speaker 1: that says I speak for Washington Wildlife, as he proceeds 12 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: to demonstrate that's exactly what he's there to do. 13 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: Are you ready wackaacka Those are the ducks. They couldn't 14 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 2: be here today because they're playing football in Oregon. Have 15 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: to stand up for this one raw as a bear. 16 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 2: The bears couldn't be here today because they're playing football 17 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 2: in Chicago. That's supposed to be a whale. You know 18 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: how people have earthquake fills, Well, the whales couldn't be 19 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: here because they're having a ferry and powerboat drill lots 20 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 2: of fish has to be here, lots and lots of fish. 21 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: But instead I'm going to ask you their request. They 22 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 2: request that next time you hold this meeting, please hold 23 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:37,199 Speaker 2: it under water. 24 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: Mister Martin explains that the Wildlife Commissioners are there to 25 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: represent animals, not the people of Washington State. 26 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 2: You don't represent human beings. You represent those who I 27 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 2: tried to speak for. They couldn't be here today. You 28 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: don't represent the governor. You represent wildlife. And the question 29 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 2: I have to ask you is what would wildlife say? 30 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: Now? I could make a joke here about his animal impressions. 31 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: It doesn't sound like he's ever heard a duck in 32 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: the wild, much less a whale. I could also argue 33 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: with his contention that the Fish and Wildlife Commission represents 34 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,119 Speaker 1: wildlife as if they were voted in by strong turnout 35 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: from the otters and salmon, but I won't. I'm actually 36 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: pretty impressed with old John, not because I agree with him, 37 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: but because he was willing to stand in public, video 38 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: recorded meeting and do something so memorable. I don't recommend 39 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: imitating John's tactics or god awful animal calls, but I 40 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: like his spirit and that's definitely something we can all 41 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: learn from. This week, We've got cheats, wildlife, crime, wolves, 42 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: and so much more. But first I'm going to tell 43 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: you about my week. And my week has been steep 44 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: climbing tall mountains in the fog, clouds in sleep with 45 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: my only truly custom rifle I've ever ordered, my fifty 46 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 1: eight caliber Hawkin. This is a low success, high fun 47 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: hunt for big bulls. Actually it's an either sex tag, 48 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: but I'm trying to maximize it. We've been finding the 49 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: small bulls running with the cows and calves until tonight 50 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: three mature bulls hanging together high above everyone else. Problem is, 51 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: the weather is so bad you can't see them most 52 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: of the time. In fact, today it was the only 53 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: day I loaded the rifle, and that was a win. 54 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: Hiked in the damp, intermittent snow and fog for three 55 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: hours after the loading, and upon reaching the trailhead after dark, 56 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: I pulled the trigger and the flint hit the thing 57 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: that it's supposed to and she went bang. Big boost 58 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: to the confidence. Tomorrow, the weather is the worst it's 59 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: been in the forecast, but I've only got two days 60 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: to hunt, so we shall suffer up a long drainage 61 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: in the wet, then up a steep ridge in the 62 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: wet that will come up from the brush and down 63 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: from the heavens, and pray for gaps in the clouds 64 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: long enough to relocate the trio. We'll wait out the 65 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: wind until it's right crawling position, and hope she goes 66 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: bang again. It's as simple as that. Well, a few 67 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: other things have to go right, if I'm being honest, 68 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: But the important thing here to remember is big, beautiful 69 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: public lands are the places we get to challenge ourselves. 70 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: I am more and more thankful for the freedom these 71 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: places afford than ever before. And trust me, you really 72 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: think about freedom when you're packing around the old flint lock. 73 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: I swear when I bring that hammer back, something deep 74 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: in my soul whispers, no taxation without representation. Every day 75 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: out here is precious. Let's not forget why we have 76 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: these special places. We demanded it. Let's keep it up 77 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: from right now on through the new year. Hoping y'all 78 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 1: have a great safe end of fall and a winter 79 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: hunting season. And selfishly to telling you about a great 80 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: big mountain bowl I spanked in the snow with a 81 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: flint lock hawk in fifty eight. Moving on to the 82 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: cheater's desk. A tournament angler from PA was caught cheating 83 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: last week when officials discovered him using a cutout from 84 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: a kayak to stage his photo entries. Jacob Houseman had 85 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: entered a kayak fishing tournament in New York back in June. 86 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: But this wasn't your typical weekend fishing contest with observers 87 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: and judges on site. This was a month long tournament 88 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: in which contestants fished on their own time and submitted 89 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: photos of the fish they caught. Well, Houseman had a 90 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: brilliant idea to cheat the system. Instead of fishing from 91 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: a kayak, which was one of the requirements of this contest, 92 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: he fished from his motorized bass boat. Then, when he 93 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: caught a fish he wanted to enter, he used to 94 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: cut out from a neon green kayak to stage the photo. 95 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: The cutout still had the seat, along with a couple 96 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: feet of plastic in front, which is where you'd lay 97 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: a fish to snap your photo if you were actually 98 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: paddling a kayak. The plan almost worked, tournament directors accepted. 99 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: How Elseman's entry and the small mouth earned him a 100 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: cool two hundred dollars. But that's when Houseman started to 101 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: go wrong. About a month after the tournament ended, he 102 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: posted a photo of that same fish on Instagram, but 103 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: this time he was holding it on his boat. Serious 104 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: anglers are a lot like serious whitetail hunters. They can 105 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: identify the smallest marks and fin shapes, and it didn't 106 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: take long for someone to notice Houseman's deceit. Further investigation 107 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: revealed a photo of the fake kayak on Houseman's boat, 108 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: and he was forced to give up his winnings. Social 109 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: media gets a lot of hate from the hunting community, 110 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: but as regular Call of the Wild listeners know, this 111 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: isn't the first time a poacher or cheater has gotten 112 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: caught thanks to the gram. These people just can't help themselves. 113 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: Speaking to people who just can't help themselves, let's move 114 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: on over to the crime desk. A Florida man was 115 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: arrested back in October for poaching an alligator, but the 116 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: story and his charges were just announced last week by 117 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission. Local media reports 118 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: that game wardens were patrolling the Tate's Hell Wildlife Management 119 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: Area in Franklin County when they saw a truck acting suspiciously. 120 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: I suppose the truck wasn't acting suspiciously, but they say 121 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: it's artificial lights were set up quote in a manner 122 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: consistent with disclosing the presence of wildlife. A guy who's 123 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: spotlighting in Layman's storms. They kept an eye on the 124 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: truck and it wasn't long before it stopped A fellow 125 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: named Morgan Ryan Bab. The MRB got out, walked over 126 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: to a water filled ditch and pulled the line. On 127 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: the other end of that line was an alligator snagged 128 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: on a hook, and Bab shot the animal with a rifle. 129 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: The game boards hit the lights on their patrol vehicles 130 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: while Bab tried to drag the gator back into the 131 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: ditch and pretend like nothing had happened. But the jig 132 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: was up. Bab was booked for hunting gaiters without a 133 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: license or tag and for using an illegal means of take. 134 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: You can use a hook and line to catch a gator, 135 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: but you can't use a metal hook if you're using 136 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: raw meat as bait. Bab had baited a steel hook 137 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: with mullet, and he'd also left the line tied around 138 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: a tree, which is illegal. What's more, the only firearm 139 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: you're allowed to use to dispatch a gator is a 140 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: bang stick. A bankstick is a device that allows you 141 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: to fit a shell or cartridge into a metal cylinder 142 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: on the end of a pole, which detonates when you 143 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: slam the stick into whatever you want to dispatch. But 144 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: Bab used what looks like a twenty two rifle to 145 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: kill his gator, which added yet another line on his 146 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: rap sheet. Colorado Parks and Wildlife is looking for the 147 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: person who shot a Rocky Mountain big horn ram and 148 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: left it to rot. Game wardens said the half curl 149 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: ram was found in game Management Unit six p't eighty one, 150 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: about two hundred yards from County Road thirty eight FF. 151 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: It was shot in the guts, but the initial investigation 152 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: revealed that it likely died not far from where it 153 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 1: was shot. Nothing had been harvested from the animal, which 154 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: suggests to me that it was shot from the road. 155 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: Someone likely saw it as they were driving, decided to 156 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: take a pot shot, but didn't have the nerve to 157 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 1: get out of their vehicle and go retrieve the horns 158 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 1: or meat. Whoever did it is facing serious comp sequence's 159 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: poach and can carry a felony charge in Colorado and 160 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: result in a lifetime hunting ban and in this case, 161 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: a whopping one hundred thousand dollars fine. Whoever did this 162 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: in the hunter so the hunting band isn't a big 163 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: deal with that one hundred k is going to hurt. 164 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 1: Anyone with information about this incident is encouraged to send 165 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: an anonymous tip to game dot thief at State dot 166 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: co dot US. Game dot thief at State dot co 167 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: dot US. The ram was found November eleven, and officials 168 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: believe it was shot several days prior to that. Moving 169 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: on to the wolf desk, the US Fish and Wildlife 170 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 1: Service announced last month that it will no longer release 171 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: a nationwide recovery plan for the gray wolf. Under the 172 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: Biden administration, the Service said it would develop a plan 173 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: to identify threats to wolves and protect them nationwide, but 174 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: the Trump administration says that's not necessary. They say that 175 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: wolves should be delisted from the Endangered Species Act, so 176 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: there's no need to go through the hassle of proposing 177 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: and approving a nationwide recovery effort. Gray wolves are currently 178 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: listed as endangered in forty four states and as threatened 179 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: in Minnesota, but they have been delisted in an area 180 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: of the Northern Rocky Mountains covering Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, portions 181 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: of eastern Washington State, and Oregon, and a small region 182 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: in northern Utah. In this area, there are as many 183 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: as twenty seven hundred wolves. Whether you agree with the 184 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: Biden or Trump administrations depends on how you feel about 185 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: wolves expanding their current range. Some even people who supported 186 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: the original reintroduction of wolves into Yellowstone and the Northern Rockies, 187 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: think the current situation is pretty good. The wolf population 188 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: is strong and thriving in the areas where they live, 189 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: and we shouldn't worry too much about making sure they're 190 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: protected in the rest of the country. On the other hand, 191 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: wolves historically covered the vast majority of the continental US. 192 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: If you'd like to see wildlife in the same area 193 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: as they lived before European contact, we have a heck 194 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: of a long way to go. We have to make 195 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: sure wolves are protect from coast to coast if we 196 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 1: want to see that historic vision become a reality. If 197 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: you think raccoons make a racket in your trash cans 198 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: are scary at night, wait till the old Lobo comes 199 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: to visit wherever you follow on this debate, it's clear 200 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: that the current administration is planning to push for a delisting. 201 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: If that happens, it'll be yet another swing in the 202 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: carnival ride that is wolf policy in the US. As always, 203 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: we're here to keep you up to date, no matter 204 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: where that ferris wheel takes us, staying at the Wolf Desk. 205 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: A couple weeks back, we let you know that the 206 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: US Fish and Wildlife Service had prevented Colorado from importing 207 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: wolves from Canada for its relocation program, instructing that any 208 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: incoming wolves would have to come from quote unquote northern 209 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: Rocky Mountain states, almost all of which have refused to 210 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: participate in Colorado's effort. Well, another state has now bowed out. 211 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: The Washington Fish and Wildlife Service Commission this week voted 212 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: eight to one against sending wolves to Colorado. The commission 213 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: justified its refusal by stating that we'la are still listed 214 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: as endangered in Washington that its own recovery plan remains ongoing. 215 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: Washington Fish and Wildlife Commission member Lorna Smith said, quote, 216 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: given that we have our largest recovery area in the 217 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: state still missing any wolf pairs. Staff has cautioned us 218 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: against going down that road. Translocation is really really hard 219 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 1: on animals. There's no denying that, and there is a 220 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: certain expected mortality rate among translocated animals. Smith refers to 221 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: one of the quote unquote recovery areas that are part 222 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: of Washington's wolf plan statewide, Washington has committed to delisting 223 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: wolves if there are fifteen breeding pairs in the state 224 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 1: for at least three years, and in fact, there have 225 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: been well over that number for several years in a row. However, 226 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: almost all of these breeding pairs are concentrated in two 227 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: of the state's four recovery areas, but the recovery plant 228 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: stipulates that there must be four breeding pairs in each 229 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: one of the recovery areas before delisting. If the Washington 230 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: FWSC had wanted to, they could have agreed to relocate 231 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: wolves from recovery areas that are well over their objectives, 232 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: but they declined to do so. The next stop will 233 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: likely be Oregon, where most of Colorado's relocated wolves have 234 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 1: come from so far, but the picture is also complicated. 235 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: In Oregon, wolves are listed as federally endangered in the 236 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 1: Western two thirds of the state, but in the eastern 237 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: third wolves have now exceeded their recovery objectives. I can 238 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: imagine there are certain Eastern Oregonians in ag who would 239 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: be more than happy to ship off some predators, but 240 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: will see if the state Department of Fish and Wildlife 241 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: share those beliefs. And what if Colorado can't find any 242 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: wolves this year and violates its legally mandated fifteen wolf 243 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: per year relocation quota. Staying in Colorado, another charismatic species, 244 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: has been doing well enough in the centennial state that 245 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: it has now earned itself a new management category. The 246 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 1: CPW said in a statement quote, free ranging bison that 247 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: naturally enter the state from neighboring jurisdictions will now be 248 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: made managed as wildlife, especially as a big game species, 249 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: under Colorado Parks and Wildlife's authority. As of now, you 250 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: cannot go hunt a buffalo in Colorado, So if chat 251 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: GPT tells you that you can do, not believe them, 252 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: but that will be subject to change starting next year. 253 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: CPW is currently developing a bison management roster where hunters 254 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: can enroll and be eligible to be selected at random 255 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: if management action through hunting becomes necessary. A public application 256 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: form and drawing system is expected on the CPW website 257 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: in January. Ladies and gentlemen, you can be one hundred 258 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: percent sure that the name Ryan Callahan will be on 259 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: that roster. Your name should be on there too. Of course, 260 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: I'm not holding my breath that I'll be doing any 261 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: gripping grins with a two ton Colorado bohemoth anytime soon. 262 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: The state currently has no native population of wild bison, 263 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: and all the animals you might find there are visitors 264 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: from Utah. Utah has about thirteen hundred wild bison in 265 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: three separate areas, the Antelope Island Herd in the north 266 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: central part of the state, the Henry Mountains Heard in 267 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: the south central, and these animals from the Book Cliffs 268 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: region further east, which number about four hundred and fifty 269 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: in growing. Although buffalo are very controversial up north in Montana, 270 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: the mood about this bison migration has been calm in Colorado, 271 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: as the Book Cliffs Heard has never been tested positive 272 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: for brucellosis. Although I get as excited as anyone at 273 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: the prospect of hunting such an iconic species, Colorado made 274 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: this new classification largely to have a way to penalize 275 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: people for killing or capturing wild migrating bison illegally. Before now, 276 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: you'd be in a legal gray area for those actions. 277 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: But when this law takes effect on January one, there 278 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: will be a penalty of between one thousand dollars and 279 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars for illegal possession of a wild bison, 280 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: as well as a possible year in jail and twenty 281 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: licensed suspension points. But zooming out this bureaucratic decision is 282 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: outstanding news. In two thousand and twenty five, their healthy 283 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: growing populations of buffalo on the American landscape. If you 284 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: went back in time and told people in say, eighteen 285 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: eighty five, they would have thought you were out of 286 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: your mind. Quick update to our segment last week covering 287 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: the nomination of Steve Pierce to become head of the BLM. 288 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: Pierce's long held opposition to public lands has now come 289 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: to light. During the twenty twelve presidential election, Pierce said 290 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: that he opposed Teddy Roosevelt's quote big ideas of big 291 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: forests and big national parks, and that if Mitt Romney 292 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: were elected, he would quote reverse this trend of public 293 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: ownership of lance. That same year, Pierce lobbied Congress to 294 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: sell public land for oil and gas drilling, writing, quote, 295 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: over ninety percent of this land is located in the 296 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: Western States, and most of it we do not even 297 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: need ol Steve's talking for himself there. I'm sure he 298 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: can agree with me on that one. In twenty sixteen, 299 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: as a member of Congress, he co sponsored the Herd Act, 300 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: which intended to quote provide for the orderly disposal of 301 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: certain federal lands. That bill died in committee, but as 302 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: we all know far too well, those ideas never seem 303 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: to die. He has called for shrinking existing national monuments 304 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 1: and placing a limit on the designation and size of 305 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: future national monuments. Crucially, his opposition to public lands were 306 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: cited by the Center for Western Priorities as a key 307 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: reason he lost his race for New Mexico governor to 308 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: Michelle Luhan Grisham. When are these politicians going to learn 309 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: that opposition to public lands is also going to lose 310 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: them a whole bunch of upcoming elections. Pierce's nomination will 311 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: now go to the US Senate, but we don't know 312 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 1: exactly when. As I mentioned last episode, former head of BLM, 313 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: William Perry Penley served in that position without his nomination 314 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: ever coming to a vote. He was a sitting or 315 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: acting director or something like that. Gang, it's no surprise 316 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: that there's a lot of folks in key positions in 317 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 1: Washington are possibly heading to Washington that live in a bubble. 318 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: They don't know or maybe possibly refuse to understand how 319 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 1: important these places are to us, the American people. If 320 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: we don't stand up for these places, really really stand 321 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: up for these places, we can lose them. Now, Steve's 322 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: previous track record, his previous statements they don't look good, 323 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: doesn't make me think, oh, good deal, on the right track. However, 324 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: what matters is what he does going forward, if he 325 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 1: is nominated, if he does sit or act as the 326 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: head of the BLM. And I don't care if you're 327 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: a Republican or a Democrat or what you said in 328 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: the past, if you do good things in that seat, 329 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 1: that's what matters. Everybody's capable of this. This guy rough start, 330 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: bad track record, but we have got to spend time 331 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: and can vinced these people of that. Hunters again are 332 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: poised to be the greatest voices for BLM lands. We 333 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: know the true values of these places that quote unquote 334 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: have nothing on them quote unquote, would be better served 335 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: for the American people as sold off or developed. We 336 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: know these places are putting in a hell of a 337 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: lot of work for us, and we got to stand 338 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: up for him. That's all there is to it. This 339 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: is where the rubber meets the road. Next up the 340 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: Terrible tick desk. First known death from the tickborn meat 341 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: allergy alpha gl syndrome has been reported this month in 342 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: New Jersey. In September twenty twenty four, a forty seven 343 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 1: year old the airline pilot returned home after an afternoon barbecue, 344 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: and despite feeling well enough to mow the lawn and 345 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: read a newspaper, he began to suffer severe abdominal distress 346 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: and was found dead by his son in the family's 347 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: bathroom later that evening. The man had no history of 348 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: other health conditions, and medical examiners cannot determine the cause 349 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: of death, listing it as quote unexplained on the man's 350 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: autopsy report. By chance, the man's wife discussed the details 351 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: of the tragedy with a doctor and researcher, Aaron mcpheely. 352 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: Based on the facts of the case, mcpheeley suspected that 353 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: an allergic reaction may have been the cause, and she'd 354 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 1: contacted her colleague, Thomas Platt's Mills, the University of Virginia 355 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: allergist who discovered the link between AGS alpha gal syndrome 356 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: and lone star tick bites in two thousand and two. 357 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,959 Speaker 1: Plat Mills called for an analysis of a blood sample 358 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: from the deceased pilot and discovered an extremely high level 359 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: of the enzyme trip tase, evidence of severe anaphylactic shock. 360 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: He told NBC News Quote. The level he had is 361 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: basically only seen in fatal cases of anaphylaxis. His level 362 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: was two thousand. The highest level I have seen in 363 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 1: practice of a person who survived is one hundred. The 364 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: same analysis also discovered the presence of antibodies to the 365 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: alpha gal carbohydrate, providing further evidence that the tick borne 366 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 1: illness was the cause of death, likely brought on by 367 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: a hamburger the man had been eaten at the barbecue 368 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: that day. The man's family confirmed that he had suffered 369 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 1: from a similar adverse reaction to eating a steak two 370 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: weeks before the fatal incident, probing further for the cause 371 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 1: of the infection. Researchers learned that in the summer of 372 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, the man had suffered welts along his 373 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: ankles that the family had attributed to jiggers, but were 374 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: more likely bites from lone star tick larvae. In the 375 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 1: study that mcpheeley and plat Mills published in the journal 376 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 1: Allergy and Clinical Immunology, they emphasized how few doctors know 377 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 1: what AGS even is. According to the CDC, forty two 378 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: percent of doctors had never heard of AGS, and another 379 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: thirty five percent didn't have confidence that they could diagnose 380 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: it or treat people suffering from the condition. This creates 381 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: a real danger of people being infected and not knowing it. 382 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 1: Referring to the New Jersey case, plat Mill said, quote, 383 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: the tragedy is the doctors didn't think of that episode 384 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: as anaphal axis and therefore didn't connect it to the 385 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: beef at the time. The implications for hunters are clear. First, 386 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: we are more likely than anyone to be in areas 387 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: with ticks and to be hands on with their most 388 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: common hosts, the white tailed deer. We also have a 389 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: lot to lose if we can't eat red meat anymore. 390 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 1: That means you should be applying the tick repellent permethron 391 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: to all your hunting clothes and boots, and always have 392 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: a loved one or at least someone who's okay seeing 393 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: you in your birthday suit conduct a tick check on 394 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: you when your return from the field. News like this 395 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: should also prompt hunters in cities to seek out opportunities 396 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: in suburban and semi rural places where deer populations are 397 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 1: overwhelming local residents. One source cited by the University of 398 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: Virginia study called deer in New Jersey a quote unsustainable 399 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: statewide emergency. If you live in an apartment in New 400 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: York City, DC, Atlanta, Houston, or many other parts of 401 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: the country without a ton of public land around you, 402 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: conquer your shyness. Call up your aunt who lives in 403 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: a nearby subdivision. Find out if she or her friends 404 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 1: are tired of having their landscaping eaten to the ground. 405 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: It might not be as sexy as chasing doll sheep 406 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: in Alaska, but there are a lot of animals right 407 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: next door to you. People are having a tough time 408 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: dealing with them, and you could establish some relationships that 409 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: fill your freezer for many years to come. That's all 410 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: I got for you this week. Thank you so much 411 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: for listening, and remember to write in to ask c 412 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: Al that's Ascal at the meat eater dot com. Let 413 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: me know what's going on in your neck of the woods. 414 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: You know we appreciate it.