1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Let's bring in Chris Sims Pro football talk, 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: of course, the former NFL quarterback. How do you explain that, Chris? Well? Wait, 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: first off, I mean you left me some good candy there, 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: all right? I mean, who are you going to vote 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: for in the high I'm not allowed that. I'm not 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: allowed to say it. They don't want us to say 8 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: it publicly. Or I would tell you privately, but I'm 9 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: not allowed to say it publicly. All right? All right? Cool? 10 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: I understand that you could text me later. How would 11 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: you vote to vote for Trevor Lawrence? I would? I would? 12 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: You know, he's the best player in college football for 13 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: my money, I don't you know. Again, it's unforeseen circumstances, 14 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen, all of that. That shouldn't hinder him as 15 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: far as you know what the vote or what the 16 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: award really stands for. So I would go with Trevor. 17 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: If you were Trevor, would you rather go to the 18 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: Jets or the Jags? Oh, the Jaguars probably have a 19 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: little bit more in place as far as talent on 20 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball, and even some young 21 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: talent on the defensive side of the ball. You know, 22 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: that to me is going to be more of the 23 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: decision of do you want to live in the big 24 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: lights of New York or do you want to be 25 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: kind of under the radar in Jacksonville. What suits like 26 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: the style of life you want to live too, So 27 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,559 Speaker 1: you know, ultimately, I think probably at this point right now, 28 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: the Jags are set up a little bit better team 29 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: wise than the Jets, who have a lot of holes 30 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: to fill. But you also look at Eli Manning doesn't 31 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: seem like the New York kind of guy. Your father, 32 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: who played for the Giants is not a New York 33 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: kind of guy. Joe Namoth those days are long gone. 34 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: Nameeth loved you know the bright lights and Broadway Joe, 35 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: But you don't. Sam Darnold is not a you know, 36 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: a bright lights, New York City kind of guy either. 37 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: I think we get I know, the pressure, the expectation 38 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: level would be so high. If Trevor Lawrence goes to 39 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: the Jets, it feels like he would get a little 40 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: bit more of an easing in period in Jacksonville. I 41 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: would agree. I mean, you come up, you know, like 42 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: you're talking about, you come up to New York. The 43 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: spotlight's on you immediately, and then of course it's going 44 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: to be added on to that is the fact that whoa, 45 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: they got rid of a top three quarterback pick to 46 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: take on Trevor Lawrence. So how does that guy do 47 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: on his new team? And that's going to add to 48 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: the spotlight and just the overall you know, attention around 49 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: the whole scenario. But but so your point with like 50 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: my dad, Eli Manning, Sam Darnold, even you know, I 51 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: think Trevor Lawrence has that too, where yeah, they're not 52 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: like it just it's even keel let's throw a touchdown, 53 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: throw an interception, You're not really sure which one they did. 54 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: It's the same look on their face either way. And 55 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: I think there is something to that in the New 56 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: York City area as far as balancing your life and 57 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: all the you know, the fans and all the attention 58 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: around you at all times. Yeah, it feels like it's 59 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 1: the expectation level is going to be so high because 60 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: the Jets are so thirsty. The Jags almost went to 61 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl a couple of years ago. The Jets, 62 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 1: you know, they get to watch the Super Bowl. But 63 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: I also wondered about this yesterday we got over the 64 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: shock of the Jets beating the Rams. If I'm the Rams, 65 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: what did I expose yesterday that's going to come back 66 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: and haunt me? Or is this just a one off 67 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: that the Jets caught him at the right time. But 68 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: there are there bigger issues with the Rams as we 69 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: look past this Jets upset. I think I said this 70 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: to you two weeks ago when I was on on 71 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: a Monday where to me, there's one big issue with 72 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: the Rams football team, and it's really about the only 73 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: issue because they're really well rounded and just about every area. 74 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: But there it was again, Dan, just go back and 75 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: look at the Rams schedule. Any game their offense struggles, 76 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: it's lack of run game, and then the bootleg passes 77 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: aren't there, and just quite honestly, you know, the drop 78 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: back pass game as far as scheme, and then Jared 79 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: goff in the drop back pass game and his ability 80 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: to do things that way pocket passer, being a you know, 81 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: surgical that way and making plays off schedule. This is 82 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: not the strength of the Rams. So they got themselves 83 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: in a hole and then they couldn't run the ball 84 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: and the bootlegs were gone, and it just all kind 85 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: of funneled out of control from there. Is there a 86 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: Super Bowl contender in the NFC West? Yes, I do 87 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: believe that the Seahawks to me or a Super Bowl contender. 88 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: There's no doubt the Seahawks have played better defense the 89 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: last five or six weeks. Really, ever since they left 90 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,679 Speaker 1: Josh Allen and that loss up in Buffalo, they've been better. 91 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 1: You know, I think you see their run game has 92 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: shown inklings of popping up here. And a year with 93 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: no great defenses in football, you know, this is why 94 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: I took Seattle versus Kansas City in the Super Bowl anyways, 95 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: because of the no off season, I thought the defenses 96 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: would be handicapped. I just think playoff football is gonna 97 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: lend itself to the great quarterbacks, kind of taking over 98 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: in the big moments with no crowd noise at all 99 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: of that with no great defenses, and it's just going 100 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: to favor those kind of guys. So, yes, Russell Wilson 101 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,239 Speaker 1: and the Seahawks Star contender. Were you a Josh Allen 102 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: guy prior to the draft? I didn't think you were. 103 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: I was. He was my number one quarterback that year. Really, 104 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, yeah, big, big, Josh Allen. I kind 105 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: of Lamar is number one and Josh Allen is two 106 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: in my first rankings, And honestly, Dan, I made a 107 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: deal with myself. I backed off the Lamar number one 108 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: because I got so much crap from my NFL friends. Man, 109 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: Lamar number one, are you crazy? I thought there was 110 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: maybe something I didn't know that maybe you know, there 111 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: was some character issues or something that that I got 112 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: so trashed. I honestly backed off Lamar a little bit 113 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: and ultimately made Josh Allen my number one guy. But yes, 114 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,799 Speaker 1: I was a huge Josh Allen fan. If I said 115 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: I got to take out Mahomes from the equation quarterbacks 116 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: under the age of twenty seven, that you would take 117 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: over Josh Allen. Ooh oh man. I know to me 118 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: that that and I'm just you know, off the top 119 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 1: of my head, I'm just going only guy I'm thinking 120 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: about really is him and DeShawn Watson. Those are those 121 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: are those guys I think that are young right, that 122 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 1: fit that mold what you're talking about, it's one of 123 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: those two. I mean to me writing right now, Rogers, Mahomes, 124 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, I know in totality of their careers, they're 125 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: better than Josh Allen and Deshaun Watson. But man for 126 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: twenty twenty football right now, Week fifteen, I don't think 127 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: you could say anybody's played better than Josh Allen this 128 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: year except for Rogers and Mahomes. And you see, like 129 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,679 Speaker 1: you saw a Saturday night, he can carry the team 130 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: at certain moments, doesn't matter what has to be done. 131 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: And I remind people, you know that that was the 132 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: same Denver defense that wouldn't let the Chiefs in the 133 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: end zone five different times. And Josh Allen got in 134 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: the end zone. So he at least deserves to be 135 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 1: in that conversation. I'm not saying he's there yet, but 136 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: he's in that combo. We're talking to Chris Sims, Pro 137 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: Football Talk Live co host with Mike Florio and of 138 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: course the former NFL quarterback. Let's look at the Saints 139 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: quarterbacking situation short term, long term here, what do you think, Well, 140 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: they gotta go with Drew Brees now, I mean, he 141 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,119 Speaker 1: obviously was not at one hundred percent yesterday. He didn't 142 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: look comfortable. I mean you watch it, you know, did 143 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: he look comfortable at any point during that game? Look jumpy, 144 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: in the pocket right, didn't look like real decisive with decisions. 145 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: There was a lot of like, oh should I throw 146 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,559 Speaker 1: it there? Oh should I throw it? And he didn't 147 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: know what to do with it. So they caught him 148 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: on a rusty day, you know, of course, not hitting 149 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: on all cylinders. But he's still the guy going forward, 150 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: no doubt. I just hope they find the right balance 151 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: of still letting the Taysom Hill be a factor there 152 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: because without Drew Brees's ability to really throw the ball 153 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,119 Speaker 1: down the field, I think they need that Taysom Hill 154 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: run game package to just give them one other element 155 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: to make defenses defend the whole field when you play 156 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: the Saints. I think that they just can't lose sight 157 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: of that. You look at Kansas City. They do keep 158 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: teams in games, whether it's somebody really good like the Saints, 159 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: or you know, can be some of these other teams here. 160 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: But they seem to have an answer for everything. That's 161 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: just it. It's the person who makes straight a's. But 162 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: you go, how do they make straight a's because you're 163 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: watching their study habits and you go and I don't know, 164 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: Now they do it differently here? Um right, how dangerous 165 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: I mean, what's the flaw there. I mean the flaw 166 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: is that they're just gonna play with fire here in 167 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: one of these days and you know, the wrong bounce 168 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: of the ball or you know, and just it's gonna 169 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: come down to that one one play and they're not 170 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: going to come through in the clutch. And you go, man, 171 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: they lost to a team that they're better at, better than, 172 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: and they didn't close the game out or you know, 173 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: they just were asleep at the wheel because they were unmotivated. 174 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: That's the concern. But also, like you know yesterday, I 175 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: think it also again shows their versatility too. That's what's amazing. Oh, 176 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna run the ball, we're gonna play defense, and 177 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: you know we're gonna stop the run and make Drew 178 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: Brees beat us throwing the football. You know, Oh, this 179 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: average Chiefs defense. Yet when you ask them to do 180 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: something stop Derrick Henry in the AFC Championship game, slow 181 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: down the Shanahan run game in the Super Bowl, they 182 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: always rise to the occasion. So they're frustrating. I'm with you, 183 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: and we don't. I don't think we've seen them see 184 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: play a game the whole year. I think they played 185 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 1: a lot of B and B plus games and they 186 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: still win. And that's where they're I'm annoyed by them. 187 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: I'll say this though. Their offense needs to be the 188 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: one that closes these games out. That's where they're built, 189 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: and that's that's the unit that needs to put some 190 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: of these teams away as of late, and we just 191 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 1: haven't seen them do that. You sold on Baker Mayfield, 192 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: now I am. You know, I think I think, like 193 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: the last three four weeks, the way he's playing, I 194 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: think he's finally just comfortable in the Stefanski offense what's 195 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: being expected of them. And Dan there's you there's a 196 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: language between quarterback and play caller that you know, I 197 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: actually heard even you know, Bruce arians talking about this 198 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: with Tom Brady yesterday. You know, they're they're speaking to 199 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: you with some of their play calls more than just hey, 200 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: this is the play call, but really where an offense 201 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: and an offensive coordinator get on the same page as 202 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: Oh wait, he's calling this play on second down because 203 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: we talked about this ten days ago. He's expecting me 204 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: to look for the big shot play here and if 205 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: I don't have it, throw it away. You know, it's 206 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: all those little nuances. I think that they're finally getting together. 207 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: And that's why you're seeing Baker just confident and playing 208 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 1: and playing awesome. And I see young quarterbacks do this. 209 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: And you played the position that I gotta throw the 210 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: ball away like it's hard. Your mentality is never let 211 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: me just throw it away. Your mentality is to make 212 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: a play. It must be difficult for some of these 213 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: younger quarterbacks to go, gosh, I gotta I gotta just 214 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: fall down, or I gotta throw it away right, or 215 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: throw the check down right. They're not used to that, 216 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: and I think that's where, you know, we got to 217 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: give Baker a lot of credit. Think about it. He 218 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: was he was at Oklahoma. It was throw, throw, throw, throw, throw, 219 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: throw it everywhere. And then he got with Hugh Jackson 220 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: and it was like, hey, awesome, let's throw it more. 221 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: You're the first pick of the draft. And then last 222 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: year they got Odell Beckham junior and they went, hey, 223 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: let's throw it every play. Let's keep doing that. And 224 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden this year they were like, hey, 225 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: whoa oh. We wanted to hand the ball off and 226 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: play smart and control the football. So that is an 227 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: adjustment for a guy like that, and he's done really 228 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: great in handling that. And they've matured off the field too. 229 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: I think that's another aspect you see with Cleveland that 230 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: Stefanski's really brought to the team. I'll leave you with this. 231 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: I have three quarterbacks in their first forty eight career starts. 232 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: Three current quarterbacks in their first forty eight starts. These 233 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: three quarterbacks went twenty eight and twenty the exact same record. 234 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: Are you ready for this? Yes? Aaron Rodgers was twenty 235 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: eight and twenty, Deshaun Watson twenty eight and twenty, Mitchell 236 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: Trubisky twenty eight and twenty. Yeah, that's awesome, It's awesome. 237 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: I'm happy for Mitchell Trubisky. That's a misleading stat I'll 238 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: say that much because two of those guys were doing 239 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: a lot of it. Do you think he's happy that 240 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: you're happy for him? Chris? Probably not. He's probably like, oh, 241 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: i've heard that guy saying negative things about me before. 242 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,599 Speaker 1: Screw him too. But I think that's the edge in 243 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: which he's playing with. Like I heard Matt Nagy in 244 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: the postgame press conference that he's a different man. Well, 245 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: sometimes when you get bench and you sit over there, 246 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: and you go, man, I was making the game too complicated. 247 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: And then also when you get back in, you're just go, 248 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: I'm taking no prisoners, you know, screw everybody, screw the coach, 249 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: screw all this. I'm gonna be a leader and not 250 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: think too much and do all that. And they found 251 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: their way here. That the best three offensive games of 252 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: the whole season the last three weeks. Good for the Bears. 253 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: And if you may meet you, I bet you they 254 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 1: beat the Cardinals and end up in the seventh seed 255 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: over the Cardinals. Yes, that would be my choice. WHOA 256 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: I like it, Yeah, I like it. Thank you. Hey, 257 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: Happy holidays to you and the family. Thank you again 258 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: for all the times you've joined us here on the program. 259 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: We always appreciate your insights and thanks for joining us. 260 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: Bun No, thanks, thanks to you, Thanks though all the guys. 261 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: Happy holidays. CEO, I appreciate you having me on That's 262 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: Chris Sims Pro Football Talk, and also you can see 263 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: him on Football Night in America. Thanks for listening to 264 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us 265 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: live every weekday morning nine to noon Eastern or six 266 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 1: to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local 267 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: station for the Dan Patrick Show at Fox Sports Radio 268 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 269 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching f s R, or stream us 270 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: live on the Peacock Act. Andy Staples kind enough to 271 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: join us on loan from the Athletic covering college football. Andy, 272 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: any problems with the final four? Not really, because it 273 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: was going to be Notre Dame or A and M 274 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: at four, and you could flip a coin on those two, 275 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: and I don't think anybody other than the fan bases 276 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: would have been upset if one or the other had 277 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: been picked. Notre Dame makes sense. You can make the case, Hey, 278 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: look they beat a team that's in the playoff Texas. 279 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: A and M had a really good win against Florida, 280 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: but they both got blown out by teams that are 281 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. So I mean it was kind of 282 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: six to one, half dozen to the other. I just 283 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: would like it to be a better system in general. 284 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't need to be four. Should have 285 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: been eight all along, and every year they keep showing 286 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: us why it should be eight. But you know what 287 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: will happen, Andy, You're gonna get some of these teams 288 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: that get in there and they get blown out because 289 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: they face Alabama or Clemson in the opening round. And 290 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: then people, now I know I did I said that. 291 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: I said Notre Dame gets blown out or A and 292 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: M gets blown out. We don't have a problem with that. 293 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: But if boy, if Cincinnati goes in there and gets 294 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: blown out, that's bad for college football. Yeah, it's crazy. 295 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: Because so if you had an eight team and this 296 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: is how they would do it, it would be your 297 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: five Power five champs get in your highest rank, group 298 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: of five champ gets in, and then two at largest. 299 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:14,479 Speaker 1: So the games you'd have, you'd have Oregon at Alabama. 300 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: Oh no, by the way, you get the balls out 301 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: of there and you actually play them in campus college 302 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: football stadiums where they're meant to be played. So you'd 303 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: have Oregon at Alabama, which people will say, Okay, why 304 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: is Organ in there? They don't deserve it, Okay, But 305 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: from a business perspective, you kept that side of the 306 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: country engaged the entire season. You gave stakes to the 307 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: Pac twelve championship game. And if Organ gets blown out, great, 308 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: that's Alabama getting a reward for earning the number one seed. 309 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: You got. Sinse at Clemson will Clemson kill Sincy maybe, 310 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: but at least we know. And then you have Oklahoma 311 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: at Ohio State and Texas A and m at Notre Dame. 312 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: Who is not watching those games? I know, I agree, 313 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: but I don't know. It's crazy. When do they expand 314 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: because they have the contract with ESPN? Can they break 315 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: that contract? I guess all contracts are meant to be broken. 316 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: But you know, we're we're stuck with this through what 317 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, twenty twenty six, and it's it's the 318 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: deal with the bulls that's that's the issue. Because ESPN 319 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: would be fine. ESPN wants to make the conference is 320 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: happy if the conferences say we want to do an 321 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: eight team playoff, ESPN will say, great, we'll pay you 322 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: for that, because I mean, they're gonna wind up paying 323 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: about the same amount of money anyway you slice it. 324 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: So they don't care about the packaging. They just care 325 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: about the products. So if you give them an opportunity 326 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: to buy the product, they'll buy it. But it's the 327 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: deal with the bulls because you know, you got these 328 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: middlemen and the bulls that have been for years hijacking 329 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: the way college football crowns as national champion. They were 330 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: pretty useful back in the day. They're completely useless now. 331 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: There is no need for them to be there. If 332 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: the school, let's say the Rose Bull here's here's a 333 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: good example, because the Rose Bowl has always kind of 334 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: been what was in the way. And if you went 335 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: to the Rose Bowl right now and said, hey, we're 336 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: gonna have a big ten and Pac twelve game in 337 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: your stadium. We're gonna kick it off at two o'clock 338 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: Eastern time on January first. It's not gonna be a 339 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: playoff game. We're gonna play thus on campus. We're not 340 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: gonna give you as much money as we did before. 341 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: We're ESPN is gonna give all that money to the conferences. 342 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: The Rose Bowl would say, well, no, we don't want 343 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: to do that. And they'll say, okay, that's great. We're 344 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: gonna move that game to another stadium, and now you 345 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: can have zero dollars and enjoy your monster truck pull 346 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: on January first, and the Rose Bowl will be like, okay, 347 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: we'll take some dollars over zero dollars. That would be wonderful. 348 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: And now we have the Rose Bowl in Dallas, can 349 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: we call it the Rose Bowl. I'm not clear on 350 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: the legality of this. I don't I don't know if 351 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a letter from I know it's um. Hey, 352 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: you know we got caught up in this eye test 353 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: and I still don't know. I don't have eight vision. 354 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 1: But you know the eye test with Ohio State, I 355 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: won him in there in the final four. But I 356 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: can't sit there and go, boy, they passed the eye test. 357 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: You know who passes the eye test. As strange as 358 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: this is going to sound, Florida does. If Florida didn't 359 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: lose to LSU. I mean that they went toe to 360 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: toe with Alabama. If you said they were going to 361 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: play again, I'd say absolutely, I'm all in. Yeah, you 362 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: know that lost lash Hue. I wonder was there if 363 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: if they didn't lose to Las Hue, would there be 364 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: a chance that Florida was in there and said of 365 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: Notre Dame. It would have been the twenty eighteen discussion 366 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: all over again. And remember in twenty and eighteen, Alabama 367 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 1: and Georgia play the really good SEC championship game where 368 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: two it gets hurt. Jalen Hurts comes in and there 369 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 1: was the big argument of do you put Georgia in 370 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: at number four even though they just lost Alabama. I 371 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: think you would have had that same discussion had Florida 372 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 1: not lost LSU. The problem for Florida is, yeah, you 373 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: just showed you can go toe to toe with Alabama, 374 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: but a week earlier, you just showed you can completely 375 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: lay an egg. So I mean that that's the issue 376 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: with that one. But yeah, you're that would have been 377 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: the dominant conversation Sunday morning if Florida hadn't lost LSU. 378 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: Is should Florida be number four? You're okay with Ohio 379 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: State just because yeah, I am. And here's the thing. 380 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: Everybody's like, well, you gotta punish them, punished the Big 381 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: Ten because they only played six games. Yeah, but if 382 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: you punish the Big Ten by punishing Ohio State, that 383 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,959 Speaker 1: makes no sense. The Big Ten played at all because 384 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 1: Ohio State and Nebraska and Iowa and those people fought 385 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,719 Speaker 1: to get a season played in the Big Ten. Ohio 386 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 1: State would have loved to have played ten games. They 387 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: were on the side of the ACC and the SEC 388 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: in the Big Twelve the entire time. So you can't 389 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 1: punish them because their league did something stupid. So I'm 390 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: fine with it, and look it was all gonna be 391 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: eye test anyway because we didn't have non conference games. 392 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: We didn't get remember we're supposed to get Ohio State 393 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: Oregon in week two. That would have been amazing. It 394 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: would have been a great data point for us to tell, Okay, 395 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: where's the Pack ten stack up against the Big Ten. 396 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: We don't have any idea this year because we didn't 397 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: have any non conference games, and so the only only 398 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: thing we can really say is the Sun Belt is 399 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: better than the Big twelve because the Sun Belt went 400 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 1: three and oh against the Big twelve. Army is not 401 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: going to a bowl game. Their head coach is going 402 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: to join its top of the hour. So to explain 403 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: this to me that Army, what are the eight and 404 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: two not going to a bull game? So basically they 405 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: were going to the Independence Bowl and that was set 406 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: up and the Independence Bowl had to cancel its game 407 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: because it can't get another team into the game. There 408 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: have been too many opt outs and so the Independence 409 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: Bowl does not have an opponent for them and all 410 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:46,199 Speaker 1: the other bowls because they're contractually tied to two different conferences, 411 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: had to fill through the different conferences that they're contractually 412 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: tied to and it's a great injustice because Army deserves 413 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,239 Speaker 1: to be there. You know, you've got a two win 414 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 1: South Carolina playing in a bowl and Army's not playing 415 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: in a bowl. It's ridiculous. And it's interesting because Army's 416 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: former commandant is the president of South Carolina. You think 417 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: he'd say, look, out of respect, we're gonna stay home 418 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: and you guys go play in the bowl game. And 419 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 1: I you know, you don't want anybody to have any 420 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: issues with COVID nineteen. But if somebody does, and it 421 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: seems like given the number of teams that are playing 422 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: in bulls, there's a chance somebody does, let's throw Army 423 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: in there. If somebody has to back out left them 424 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: play in a bowl game, they've earned it. Yeah, And 425 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: that's why I go back to this when people say, oh, 426 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: you know, these schools that aren't in the Power five conferences, 427 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: you know they wouldn't be able to go toe to 428 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: toe with these schools that are. And I go, let 429 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: me take you back to Army on the road against 430 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: Oklahoma and Kyler Murray and went into overtime. So it's 431 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: one game and maybe there's a blowout, but you tell me, 432 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 1: Oklahoma came out of that game going, man, we're so 433 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: much better than Army. No, and Army took Michigan to 434 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: the limit the following year. Look, Army's a good team. 435 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 1: There's no reason Army shouldn't be in a Bull game. 436 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: And this is another one of my issues with the 437 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 1: bowl system in general. Again, you don't need these middlemen 438 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: like ESPN owns and operates seventeen bowls. Now, you got 439 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: the Myrtle Beach Bowl coming on later today Conway, South 440 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: Carolina on the surf turf at Coastal Carolina. Those Bulls 441 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: have no middlemen. ESPN puts it on the teams show 442 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 1: up and you're good to go. And that's the way 443 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: they could do it throughout college football if they wanted to, 444 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: and just set up the best matchups you can instead 445 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: of having well, we got to have Big ten number 446 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: three versus SEC Number four. Don't do that. If anything, 447 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: this season taught us that things might be better if 448 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: you schedule a little more on the fly. Anyway. I 449 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: mean that Coastal Carolina BYU game was set up on 450 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: two days notice. It was probably the best game of 451 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: the season, So why not have it where the leagues 452 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: get together with ESPN and say we're going to create 453 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: thirty nine postseason games, but we're not going to set 454 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: them up by conference or anything like that. We're just 455 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: gonna match them up for the best possible matchups, the 456 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: best television matchups, the most deserving teams get the best games. 457 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: And that's how you do it. Everybody would be would 458 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,239 Speaker 1: be fine with that. Viewers would love it. And you 459 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 1: don't give money to people who don't do anything. Andy, 460 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: you're making money the product, Andy, You're making way too much. 461 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,959 Speaker 1: I know you got to stop. You got to stop 462 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: with this because you know what, it's just in three 463 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty five days, Andy, we're probably having this 464 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 1: same conversation oh one, and probably more so and more 465 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: frustrated because they will have gone back to all of 466 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: the old ways of doing things. It will be we 467 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: must schedule non conference games twelve years in advance, because 468 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: that is what we do. We must do that. But 469 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: you don't have to do that. If this year taught 470 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: us anything, you don't have to do any of the 471 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: things that you thought you had to do. So think 472 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 1: about it. If you're gonna if you're gonna press the 473 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: reset button now, would be a great time. It's great 474 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: to talk to you so always. We appreciate your insights, 475 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: Mary Christmas, Happy Holidays to Andy, and thank you for 476 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: joining us. Thank you, Dan. That's Andy Staples. Andy works 477 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: for the Athletic. Be sure to catch the live edition 478 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern 479 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart 480 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: Radio WAP. We've talked a lot about college football, and 481 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: you know the playoffs. Now we have the bowl games. 482 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: Who can play South Carolina's got two wins, they're playing 483 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: in a bowl game. Army is nine and two. They're 484 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: not playing in a bowl game, and they're head coach. 485 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: Jeff Munkin joins us on the program. Coach, thanks for 486 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 1: joining us. So explain this to me and how you 487 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: explained it to your kids. They're not playing in a 488 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 1: bowl game. Well, first, I got a day. Can I 489 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: give you an autograph story? Because I loved your autographs story? Sure, sure, 490 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: So I was an autograph seeker as a kid. I 491 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: like you go to the ball games, hang out along 492 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: the third base line of the first baseline by the dugouts. 493 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 1: So I want to tell you two stories about autographs. 494 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: One j R. Richards so the picture for the Astros 495 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: got an autograph before he had a stroke and after 496 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: he had a stroke. I thought that was pretty cool. 497 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: He's a great picture. Admired him and his and his 498 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: uh in his career. But my favorite autograph was from 499 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,239 Speaker 1: Don Sutton. Now he wasn't my favorite player growing up, 500 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: but kind of like you. I had a little conversation 501 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: with Don on the third base line out out in 502 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: right field at the Astrodome when I was about twelve 503 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: years old, and uh, he's coming along and Don Suton's 504 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: a great picture and I said, oh, missus sudden, can 505 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 1: I have your autograph? And uh, he comes over and 506 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: he said, you know you got to say please. He said, 507 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 1: you know, manners always manners always counts. And uh, I said, oh, 508 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm just so excited to get your autograph. 509 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: I got good manners. I just I was just so 510 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: excited to get your autographed. I'm sorry, yelled at you. 511 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: And he said, don't convince me, show me. And I've 512 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: never forgotten that he said that, and I still used 513 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 1: that today. I've used it for my entire career. When 514 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: a guy talks about doing something and I'm gonna do this, 515 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna do that or I'm gonna do better. 516 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: I say, don't convince me, show me. And I've shared 517 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: with him where I got that that quote, So I 518 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: got don Don Sutton to thank for that quote. But 519 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: getting h to our bowl game, and uh, you know, 520 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: we've had a great year. I'm so proud of our guys. 521 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: We've had two very emotional weeks, playing the Army Navy 522 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: game and the coming right back to play for the 523 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: Commander in Chiefs Trophy this past Saturday here at West 524 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 1: Point against Air Force, and our guys just battled and 525 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: did a great job and and we were really looking 526 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: forward to the the opportunity playing the postseason. We've been set 527 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: up to playing the Independence Bowl for for over a 528 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: year and and uh, and have been looking forward to 529 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: that like everybody, the reward of playing in the postseason 530 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: in college football. And as the day went along yesterday 531 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: and we realized that we were kind of getting pushed 532 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,959 Speaker 1: out and I understand why, and I'm not mad at 533 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: the systems. It's a system that's created lots and lots 534 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 1: of opportunities for teams to play. Is the same system 535 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: that really kept us from from having a guarantee yesterday. 536 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: But there's a lot of teams that have had a 537 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 1: chance to play it. I'm I'm not mad at the 538 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: two win teams or the three win teams that are playing. 539 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 1: In fact, I commend them that they are taking the 540 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: opportunity to play this great game. What I'm disappointed is 541 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: the teams that had a chance to play, they clamored 542 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: for the opportunity to play this fall, are now deciding 543 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,719 Speaker 1: they don't want to play. I don't understand it. And 544 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: we've got a team who is deserving of playing in 545 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: a bowl game. They're a great They're a great team. 546 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 1: They're not the most talented team in the country, not 547 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: the most talented team I've coached, but they're the best 548 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: team I've coached. And and there are a group of 549 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: young men who have made a pledge of commitment to 550 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: serve this nation. And we've got seniors who have earned 551 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,479 Speaker 1: the opportunity to play in a bowl game, who were 552 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: in tears last night. Six months from now, they're they're 553 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: gonna take a pledge to serve in the United States 554 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 1: Army and ultimately are willing to pay the ultimate price 555 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: for us to enjoy the freedoms we have and the 556 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: way of life that we enjoy to play this game 557 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 1: and to have the right to say yes I want 558 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 1: a play or no, I don't want to play. But 559 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: when there's a team like that that is uniquely positioned 560 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: to represent the one point three million men and women 561 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 1: who serve on active duty in our United States Army, 562 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: they deserve the opportunity to not just play for themselves, 563 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: but to represent those men and women. And I hear 564 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: all that we've been through that it's always for all 565 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: this team that's been through this year, we're just deciding 566 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: to opt out. Well, I challenge for all that our 567 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: soldiers have been through and all that their families have 568 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: been through, For families who who have had loved ones 569 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: deployed for a year or more and been away from 570 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: their families and will spend this holiday season away from 571 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: their families, we owe it to them to represent them. 572 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,239 Speaker 1: And UH, and we just we want the opportunity to 573 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: do that. We're hoping that they'll some way, somehow, there'll 574 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: be a chance. But I talked to our guys about it. 575 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: I told them to told them the truth on how 576 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: it got to this point. Uh. They were obviously disappointed, 577 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: But what they said was coach, if if we got 578 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: a chance, then let us continue to prepare and get ready. 579 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: And that's that's what we've done all year. We've just prepared. 580 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: We're not planned. We had a twelve game schedule in 581 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: July and we played three of those original teams, but 582 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: still manage to play eleven games. We've prepared, not planned, 583 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: And it's it's what an infantry unit does. They prepare. 584 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: They don't plan. They don't know where the battles coming, 585 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: they don't know what the weather's going to be, they 586 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: don't how many bad guys are gonna be on the 587 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: other side, what their firepower is, but they're going to 588 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: be prepared. And our country can be proud to know 589 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: that we've got soldiers out there that are protecting our 590 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: freedoms and our way of life. And then we've got 591 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: football players who are playing on this team that have 592 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: made that same commitment. So our guys are just a 593 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: great bunch of guys. So we're going to stay here 594 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: for the next few days. We're going to figure out 595 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: if we get a chance to play and see what 596 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: comes of it. How important is it for the coach 597 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: at the academy to have been through the academy to 598 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: understand what these I can't these men and women go through, 599 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: to kind of understand what their schedule is, their life is, 600 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: what happens after they graduate, get deployed, Like there's there's 601 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: a whole lot that goes into this coach that it's 602 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: not just come on in and place in football. For me, 603 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: it is and it's important that we all understand that 604 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: and embrace that. And it's one of the things I 605 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: love about West Point. I've I've I've had the opportunity 606 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: to serve as a coach at two of our service academies, 607 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: and it's it's been the great pleasure my career to 608 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: be able to do that, serve these young men and 609 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: women who are going to serve our nation. And I 610 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: didn't go to school here, but I'm proud to represent 611 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: our United States Army in this way and to serve 612 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: in this way to develop the leaders of character that 613 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: our Army needs and deserves to lead our soldiers. And 614 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: I understand this place, and I embrace what we are 615 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: as an institution, and I know our players realize that 616 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: about me, that though I didn't experience this, that I 617 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: understand their life and their commitment. And when we do 618 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: bring a young man in here, it's not just all 619 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: about football, but that's what makes them so special. But 620 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: also it's one thing to say goodbye to a senior 621 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: like this is different. When you say goodbye to your seniors. 622 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: You don't know what's going to happen to them. It's 623 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,239 Speaker 1: not like, hey, I'll keep an eye on you in 624 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: the NFL, or you know, you get a job as 625 00:31:55,080 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: an accountant somewhere. You're saying goodbye to men who you 626 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: might be saying goodbye to. They may they may have 627 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: to pay the ultimate price, but they've they've made that 628 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: choice and they've made that commitment. And you know, all 629 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: of us should be incredibly thankful for every man woman 630 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: in this nation that takes that pledge. And there are 631 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: millions of Americans who have taken that pledge and currently 632 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: serve and those that will take that pledge, and our 633 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: guys due too. And uh, you know, our guys going 634 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: to all walks of life, they're going to all all 635 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: different kinds of jobs in the army, they don't all 636 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: have the same job, but they've all made the same commitment. 637 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: And uh, and I'm really proud of them and I 638 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: just I would love to see them be rewarded with 639 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: this opportunity of a bold and they desperately want to play. 640 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: And hopefully we can give even more publicity to this, 641 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: and we appreciate your coming on and we're happy to 642 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: be able to help facilitate this so they do get 643 00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,959 Speaker 1: a chance. And maybe there's a school that opts out 644 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: out that they can't play, and you guys slide and 645 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: you guys have certainly been ready to play anybody anywhere. 646 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: And I brought this up when you'll get people who 647 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: will say, well, you know, these teams that aren't in 648 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: the Power five conferences, they can't really play with the 649 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: big boys. And I always bring up when Army went 650 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,719 Speaker 1: to Oklahoma a couple of years ago and they had 651 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and you took him into overtime. So I 652 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: don't I don't want to hear all. You know, those 653 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: smaller schools can stick with the big guys. I don't 654 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: know how you did it that day, but you did 655 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: it well. This team in the last three years has 656 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: taken two top ten teams to overtime, overtime and double 657 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: overtime double overtime at Michigan a year ago, and I 658 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: assure you that it wasn't because of our talent. We 659 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: got some talented guys, We got some good football players, 660 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: but our guys just play really hard. They play they 661 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: play together. They cared deeply for each other. There's a 662 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: sense of brotherhood in this program that's unlike any team 663 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: I've ever been a part of. And and uh, and 664 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: it's it's because of the shared experience that they'll have 665 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 1: after they graduate that that that creates a bond in 666 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 1: this team. And uh, you know, we didn't win either 667 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: of those games, so I guess they're they're right. We 668 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: just we weren't able to to finish the job. But 669 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 1: we've won some Power Five games here since I've been 670 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: here as the head coach and and uh we're gonna 671 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 1: have a chance to play some more and hopefully we'll 672 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: be able to to come away with some victories. But 673 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 1: just the spirit of this team and what they mean 674 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: to this country. I think it's great for college football. 675 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: I think it's obviously great for our our players, but uh, 676 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: but for those men and women that we represent, I 677 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: think it's important that we play and and uh and 678 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: not just say hey, we're gonna opt out well, you 679 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 1: can't give up. I mean, that's that's who you. That's 680 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: who you are, and uh, you know, hopefully I'll get 681 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 1: a chance to get up there next season. Night. I 682 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 1: appreciate the invitation that I got for the Army Navy game. 683 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: I got a compromised immune system and probably the last 684 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: person who should be traveling anywhere, but that game means 685 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: that much to me that I wanted to be there 686 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 1: to experience it. So congratulations on the season, and hopefully 687 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,320 Speaker 1: there's somebody listening who says you're right that Armies should 688 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,399 Speaker 1: be playing in a bowl game this year, coach, So 689 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: thank you and our best to you. Same to you, 690 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 1: Thanks a loud. We'll look forward to seeing you at 691 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 1: the Army Navy game next year, all right, Coach Monkin, Yeah, 692 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 1: we're ready to go after that speech. Damn, now, I'm 693 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: really mad that Army's not playing in a bowl game. 694 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be 695 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until 696 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, 697 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,280 Speaker 1: and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at 698 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 1: FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app. They're 699 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 1: quite a few Jets fans and big name Jets fans, 700 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: and Hanker's area is one of our favorites. He of 701 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: course gave us Brockmeyer, the actor comedian does a lot 702 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: of voices on the Simpsons, and here's a Jets fan 703 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: and Hank joins us. Now, Hank, how do you feel today? Well, 704 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: I mean you're right then, mixed emotions, and the emotions 705 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: that are mixed are despair and anger. How did you 706 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: feel watching that game? It's been insane watching the Jets 707 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:33,280 Speaker 1: the last this season because definitely rooting for them to lose, 708 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: but it really goes beyond that. I mean, mcaya is 709 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: is dead wrong. It's been this weird thing I swear 710 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: where I am so passionately rooting against the Jets that 711 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: my favorite team that week is whoever's playing against the Jets, 712 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: which is a tremendous win win because until this week, 713 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,919 Speaker 1: I now always win, as opposed to being a Jet 714 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: fan up until now, I almost always lose. But when 715 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: I mean, look, this was inevitable, I guess, I mean, 716 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: they really they should have won that Radar game. They 717 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 1: almost beat the Patriots, they almost beat the Broncos. They're lucky, 718 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,839 Speaker 1: they guess, they're lucky that they're they only lost, they 719 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: only won the one game. I should say, um, but 720 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 1: it's been a really almost psychotic season for me. But 721 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: it almost feels like this was your Patrick Ewing. If 722 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: you're the Knicks like you, you're, yeah, you have a chance. 723 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: We're bad. We won the lottery, we get Patrick Ewing. 724 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 1: You know it didn't pay off in a championship, but 725 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 1: you became relevant, like the Jets aren't relevant, haven't been 726 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: relevant in quite some time here, and it's Jetsy into 727 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 1: try to You know, you're bad, but you're not bad 728 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: enough to get Trevor Lawrence here exactly. I mean, look, 729 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 1: this is you know, but this is like, this is 730 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,399 Speaker 1: just it for a Jets fan, a Jets, Jets, Mets 731 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: Knicks fan, by the way. I mean, this is like saying, 732 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 1: are you surprised that Lucy didn't let Charlie Brown kick 733 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: the football? You know you're bummed, but no, can you 734 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 1: Let's say a little quiz Dan, Okay, let's go with 735 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: that metaphor, Charlie Brown and Lucy and the football. In 736 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 1: this scenario with the Jets win yesterday, who's Charlie Brown, 737 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 1: who's Lucy? And who's the football. It's even guests. Uh, 738 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,800 Speaker 1: I don't like word problems. Thank the Jets fans of 739 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 1: the football. No, no, No, Jets fans are Charlie Brown. 740 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 1: Oh okay, who's Lucy? Uh? Tom Brady and the Patriots. 741 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,720 Speaker 1: That would have been true in your path. No, Lucy 742 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: is the Jets themselves. It's the Jets organization and the football. 743 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 1: I'll accept either answer. I'd either accept h just the football, 744 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 1: since we're talking about football is to football or the 745 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: football could represent joy in life, actual happiness. Okay, so 746 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:02,280 Speaker 1: so recap now. Lucy Charlie Brown and the football represents 747 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: all Jets fans, including myself are Charlie Brown, poor said 748 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:11,840 Speaker 1: Charlie Brown, who can't ever get it right? And Lucy Evil. 749 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 1: Lucy are the Jets and Jets organization who just snatched 750 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 1: joy away from us always. And the football is either 751 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 1: the football or actual joy in living. Now, I think 752 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 1: I've seen a picture of you with Sam Darnald. Are 753 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: you a Sam Darnald guy? But you were willing like 754 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 1: you were? Do you have a relationship that you can 755 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 1: see other quarterbacks? That's actually Jim Brockmeyer. If you know 756 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 1: this with Sam Donald, that's Brockmyer right there. So that's 757 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,320 Speaker 1: not me, that's Brockmeyer. And I was backstage. I believe 758 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:46,280 Speaker 1: I was doing get up or something, Get up, get down, morning, 759 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: cold pizza, stop yourself, don't touch me one of these. 760 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: I think it was don't touch me. How would Brockmeyer 761 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 1: have called the final seconds of the Jets beating the 762 00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 1: Rams yesterday? Well, I think they just put up in 763 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 1: one long whale and moan like a Banshee whale. But 764 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,800 Speaker 1: I've been working on this, so I emailed this to Fritz. 765 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: I want brock Meyer to I want to know. Brock 766 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,799 Speaker 1: Meyer is famous for saying that the Mets are the 767 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 1: Yankees of not being the Yankees. Okay, I want to 768 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 1: expand on this, that the Jets are the Lebron James 769 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: of being worse than the Knicks, and the Knicks are 770 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 1: the Patrick Mahomes of being the Knicks of being themselves. 771 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 1: It's a lot of math. I'm giving a lot of math. 772 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: I know we're problems here. I didn't think brock Meyer 773 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 1: was that deep. Yeah, I've given this all a lot 774 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 1: of thought. Only after he's been drinking, is he? Is 775 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: he that dude? Yeah? Yeah, we'll keep your head up though. 776 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 1: This is just part of can I tell how every 777 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 1: year goes for me? Can I share with you as 778 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,879 Speaker 1: a Jets, Mets Knicks fan. So this is so we're 779 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 1: in December, We're almost at the end of the year. 780 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:58,280 Speaker 1: By now, I have definitely given up on the Jets. 781 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 1: Usually that's by Thanksgiving at the outside. This year was 782 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: weird because we had this weird Trevor Lawrence Hope. Now 783 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 1: that's destroyed pretty much almost for sure. So then around 784 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: this time of year, you turn to the Knicks. Well, 785 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 1: let's see what the Knicks can do. Right, we'll see 786 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 1: what happens. By I'd say February. That's not you know, 787 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,720 Speaker 1: that's not going to really happen with the Knicks anymore. 788 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,480 Speaker 1: So you're off the Knicks. But you got spring training, 789 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 1: so you look forward, so, well, let's see what the 790 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 1: Mets got going on this year. That dream usually is 791 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 1: done by the All Star break, by July, maybe August, 792 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: just about in time to say, well, let's see what 793 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 1: the Jets have gone on this year, on and on 794 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 1: and on until I die. Dan, You're on this loop. 795 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 1: It's just you'll never get out of that loop. I 796 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 1: was wondering, though, could the Simpsons do an episode of 797 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 1: the Jets to day how much? How much sports do 798 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:58,319 Speaker 1: the Simpsons do? Well? Every once in a while, one 799 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 1: of the famous, the most famous classic episodes is that 800 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 1: Homer at the Bad episode, which is actually featured in 801 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 1: like the Baseball Hall of Fame right now, where we 802 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 1: had all these baseball players. A great episode. Every once 803 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 1: in a while they touch on sports, but actually I 804 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 1: should I'm gonna ask for like a Jets Mets Knicks. 805 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 1: But does who does Homer root for? I mean, he's 806 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,280 Speaker 1: in the Midwest, He's probably a Chiefs fan, wouldn't he be. Well, 807 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 1: the local minor league team is the Springfield Isotopes, and 808 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: that's who Homer's fan, which I think they actually did name. 809 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: I think there's actually a real team in the Isotopes. 810 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: They're in Texas. I think, yeah, yeah, the Isotopes, And 811 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 1: I thought that's such a great nickname, Like there's nobody 812 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 1: who's known as the Isotopes other than the Isotopes. But 813 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:53,879 Speaker 1: if you had Homer somehow screw up the Jets went, 814 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: you know, like this would have been perfect, Like Homers 815 00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 1: somehow would have cost the Jets yesterday against the Rams. 816 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 1: And they don't get Trevor Lawrence and you. I mean, 817 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,400 Speaker 1: you can have Trevor Lawrence would look great in a 818 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:09,279 Speaker 1: cartoon with the flowing hair there. I don't need to 819 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,720 Speaker 1: tell the geniuses at Simpson's how to do their job. 820 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 1: But you know, but you're noodling this, So maybe Matt 821 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 1: would be interested in at least you guys. I mean, 822 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 1: come on, after all these years, you gotta you're running 823 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: out of it would be therapeutic for me. Yeah, and 824 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: we've god knows, we've done episode of everything else. Well, 825 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,439 Speaker 1: I gotta circle back to McKay Beckton for a second time. 826 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 1: That was absurd and terrible what he said. I mean, 827 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: of course, we understand no one expects the players to tank. 828 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 1: Nobody expects McKay Beckton or anybody not or Sam Donald 829 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 1: not to try, you know, and they almost so no 830 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,799 Speaker 1: one would ever fault them or to be happy that 831 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 1: they won a game. But you gotta at least tip 832 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 1: your hat to that. I guess he's too young to understand. Yeah, 833 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 1: but he's gonna have Sam Darnold's back, like literally has 834 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 1: his back that he I mean, Sam Darnold wins, he 835 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 1: can keep his JOm hank you. But yeah, you can't 836 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 1: say to Jet fans you're not a true fan. If 837 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 1: you were rooting for the Jets to lose, you can say, 838 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 1: I understand how Jets fans could feel that way, but 839 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 1: you gotta understand we're trying to win every game we can. 840 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 1: We got to look our jobs and our lives on 841 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,839 Speaker 1: the line here. No one would fault him for that, 842 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 1: But you're not a true fan. Come on, now, I 843 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,839 Speaker 1: don't think you'd say it to Makai Beckton's face, though 844 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 1: I absolutely I would through a zoom you'd be that's 845 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 1: a big man that you'd be saying. I think what 846 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,359 Speaker 1: you said is really stupid, all right. You know I 847 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 1: didn't say it was stupid, I know, but that was 848 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 1: that was the feeling I got. Does this conversation make 849 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 1: you feel bad? It was this cathartic in any way 850 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 1: for you? Oh? Yeah? I mean I feel very privileged 851 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,879 Speaker 1: that I get to, uh, okay, speak to the likes 852 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,840 Speaker 1: of You're like wine to the likes of you about 853 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 1: my Jets, Mets nicks. Uh sad? Does your wife? Does 854 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,239 Speaker 1: your wife understand this? Thank god? She dan She's a 855 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 1: Philly Philadelphia fan. So my house is horrible for me well, yeah, 856 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,440 Speaker 1: she's used to heartache. Two. Yeah. But you know my 857 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:18,840 Speaker 1: father in law who's a lovely guy, but he literally 858 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 1: he says goodbye to me on the phone, says goodbye. 859 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:26,880 Speaker 1: He goes, all right, I love you, Mets suck. This 860 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 1: is goodbye. Well with that all, uh, I'll say goodbye 861 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 1: to you, Hank and uh and happy holidays and uh, 862 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 1: Mets suck. Ah. That's okay. You made me. Thank you, Hank. 863 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 1: It's great to talk to you. You're two Dan. Happy 864 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,720 Speaker 1: holidays to everybody. Thank you, Buddy, MAT's Hankers area. Fox 865 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,880 Speaker 1: Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. 866 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 1: Catch all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot 867 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 1: com and within the iHeart Radio app. Search f s 868 00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 1: R to listen live.