WEBVTT - The Office Sweet 16 Party 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:21.320 Hello, Oh, I am so excited. Welcome to a very 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:26.280 special episode of the Office Deep Dive. I am your host, 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:31.000 Brian baum Gartner. Listen. Even though we put out our 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:36.200 usual Tuesday episode yesterday with Mr Ben Silverman, I am 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:41.839 coming at you today with this bonus episode because sixteen 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:49.240 years ago today, on Thursday, March two thousand five, at 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:55.080 nine pm local time, the American Office premiered on NBC. 0:00:55.720 --> 0:01:04.520 That's right, the Office turns sixteen today. Happy Sweet sixteen everybody. Wow, 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:09.280 this is exciting. Now. I checked, weirdly, this is not 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:14.520 recognized as a national holiday. Weird. But in honor of 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:17.720 the special occasion, I am throwing you are fans a 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:23.600 sweet sixteen party. This episode is for you, the wonderful 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:26.800 fans who love the show and have been showing so 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:30.520 much love for this podcast. I'm going to answer some 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:34.520 of the fantastic questions that you sent in and tell 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:37.160 even more behind the scenes stories that we didn't get 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:39.960 to on the podcast. And I'm gonna respond to some 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:44.360 of your comments about the podcast itself. I seriously love 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:49.000 hearing from you guys, so I am very excited to 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:55.240 respond to some of your burning questions. But first, because 0:01:55.520 --> 0:02:00.320 this is our special fan episode. I am going to 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:05.240 have a chat with one well lucky fan. This guy 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:11.000 is an office super fan. I met him wow, thirteen 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:16.880 years ago. Then he started like stalking me on social media. 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:20.079 And then one day I show up to set and 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:22.400 this guy's on set like talking to all of the 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:27.320 other actors. And then he ended up making an appearance 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:33.040 in one episode of the show, the series finale no Less. 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:39.160 And he also happens to be the NFL's m v 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:43.320 P and for sixteen years, the quarterback of the Green 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:47.720 Bay Packers. That's right, Please give a warm welcome to 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:52.560 my friend Aaron Rodgers. Aaron, how's it going. That's a 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:58.280 nice intro there, buddy. I mean, if you're looking for 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:02.359 someone eventually the Hall of Fame, I might be available 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:06.440 if you're interested. You get the perfect face for radio, 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:12.640 my friend, Like I've always always told you, uh years 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:14.720 though I can't believe it's been thirteen years. I remember 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:16.959 when we met. I was so juiced because I was 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:21.440 a huge fan of the show. But um, wow, that 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:26.120 is it's it's crazy thirteen years and and my favorite 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:28.239 part about that story is I didn't know who you were. 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:33.000 I don't know you were either I thought you were 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:39.360 somebody scatty or so yes. I Um, when when did 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:41.400 you start watching The Office? Did you watch it from 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:44.880 the beginning. I didn't watch from the beginning. Um, I 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:48.800 was a little bit. Uh well, i'll tell you. I 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:51.760 was way into the British Office. I'm a fan of 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:55.040 Ricky's your Base for a long time. I watched those 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:58.280 two seasons. I said, I thought they were absolutely brilliant. 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:02.360 And my friend Joey longtime friend, and got me into 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:05.640 it and we had started watching his House. I mean, 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:08.080 you know, right when it came out. And I remember 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:11.480 when when I heard the there's gonna be an adaptation 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:14.520 in the States, I was like, and well, how can 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:16.520 they do this show in the States, you know? And 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:18.680 I remember, so I didn't really get into it the 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:22.279 first season and I started watching it. I think I'm 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:25.200 guessing there was like a DVD that came out. This 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:27.479 was after VHS, so this is probably a DVD that 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:29.800 came out. Remember watching it and going, oh, they did 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:32.480 the Jello episode like in the British Office and stuff, 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:34.279 and this is the season went on. I was like, 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:37.040 this is really funny, like and this is this is 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:38.719 gonna be really good because you guys started to go 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:41.680 in your own direction and from that point forward, I 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:44.800 was hooked. And I've seen it so many times through 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:48.120 and I watched it, I think, uh, two and a 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:52.320 half times through Uh, during COVID, So you watched it 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:55.640 two and a half times. That's amazing. I knew we 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:57.599 had talked, and I knew that you were rewatching it 0:04:57.600 --> 0:05:00.280 again because periodically you will like send me a green 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:04.400 shot of me doing something really stupid. Uh, And I 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:07.560 knew that you you were watching it. Why why do 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:10.320 you keep coming back to it? I mean, I guess specifically, 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:14.480 like what is it that you love about it? I mean, 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:17.680 it's it's hard to just pick one thing. I just 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:19.440 think there's so many things about this show that are 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:23.160 so beautiful and and and that should be timeless. But 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:24.920 I think the interesting part about the show is that 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:29.720 it would get canceled by this culture we live and 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:35.200 I think before it even got going. And uh, for 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:38.559 reasons that I think are so beautiful about the show 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:42.400 is that it's it's people who aren't necessarily PC and 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:45.320 and don't always say the right things and and I 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:47.240 think that's the beauty and any great TV show is 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:50.159 it's characters who are relatable who you can go, oh, man, 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:54.160 I love this about Jim. You know, he's an awkward 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:56.800 situations and all he can do is just look around 0:05:56.800 --> 0:06:00.400 and look at the camera, you know, paying um with 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:02.920 you know, a relationship that's you know, in and out 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:04.840 and you just want somebody to commit to you or 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:07.200 or Michael, you know, you just want him. He just 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:09.520 wants to be liked so badly. That's all he cares 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:12.560 about is like people, you know, respecting him and liking him, 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:15.160 and you just we we start, especially in those characters, 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:17.400 with people that we know in our own lives. So 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:20.320 we're not only loving the characters, but we're loving it 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:23.000 because every time we see Kevin, we're reminded of someone. 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:26.360 Every time we see Ryan the Temper, were reminded that 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:28.920 someone from our lives. It makes us laugh, or makes 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:31.040 us mad, or makes us anything, any type of emotion 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:33.600 that brings it kind of brings even deeper in the show. 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:36.279 And I think just the meanings, the deeper meaning of 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:39.159 the show in the way it's crafted, I think is beautiful. 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:41.840 The way it's written, the character arcs for so many 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:44.200 um of the people. You you start to just really 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:46.320 love on the show yourself included. I love your character 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:48.960 arc throughout the show. How kind of as the show 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:51.279 goes on, you're You're the way you talk kind of 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:53.920 gets kind of gets smarter. And I remember the first 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:55.320 time I met you, I was like, Oh, you don't 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:59.240 talk like that, like you're doing the show. But I 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:04.320 love your character. I love Rains as Dwight. Um. I 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:07.479 love the fact that Creed story and how he got 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:09.920 his part and fill us his story she got her 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:14.240 part on the show, and and Robert California coming in 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:17.200 as bizarre as you could possibly imagine Spader and just 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:20.080 killing it and actually kind of bringing you back in 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:22.000 after you didn't know what was gonna happen when Steve 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:24.480 left the show, and and then just how it ends, 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:26.600 you know, and to be a part of strangely a 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:30.800 part of the penultimately in the in the final episode, um, 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:33.080 where there's just a couple of just amazing lines I've 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:36.440 I've mentioned him before, and you know, when Andy speaks 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:38.840 to camera there in the last episode, it's just so 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:44.400 beautifully written and spoken by him talking about you. You 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:46.400 wish somebody would tell you're in the good old days 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:48.400 before you left him. I think that's it's it's that 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:50.480 and that's what the show does. It's such a nostalgic 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:53.120 part of so much of our lives where we can 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:55.440 just remember where we were when we saw certain episodes 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:57.080 or what phase of life we were in when the 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:59.720 show was going crazy, and that's why we're all thankful 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:01.600 for that's why we binge the hell out of it 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:05.600 on Netflix. Yeah, you know, it's funny ed not too 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:09.080 long ago, he I think it was on Twitter he 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:12.920 sent out that quote and he had a picture of 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:17.400 me and John and Rain and himself all in our 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:21.280 Texas after the Golden Globes one year and I remember 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:24.400 back to that more like he was doing it on purpose, obviously, 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:27.600 but just him for me personally, going back to that 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:30.760 night and going back to so many nights like that 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:36.080 with those guys. Um. Yeah, it's that one still gets me. 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:38.520 That that one still gets me. And because you brought 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:39.840 it up, I was going to bring it up later. 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:42.400 But you know, one of the questions that I asked 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:46.760 everybody was about the very last line of the show, 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:52.160 which is i'll paraphrase, but Pam talking about why they 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:55.760 chose dunder Mifflin as a subject for this documentary and 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:59.720 then realizing that it was a good subject because there's 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:02.800 Beau the in ordinary things, and isn't that kind of 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:06.640 the point. But through all of the shenanigans, all of 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:10.160 the you know, crazy you know, like I've said many times, 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:12.480 we felt like we were just being idiots, you know, 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:16.000 for a decade, But there was an underlying feeling there 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:18.880 that people like you just said, seemed to respond to. 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:24.240 That It celebrates that that ordinary nous um or or 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:29.600 seemingly ordinariness in people. Yeah, I couldn't agree with you anymore. 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:32.920 I mean, there's a lot of misty moments in the 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:37.960 last episode and just that last montage of of Jim 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:40.520 and Pam talking to camera, you know, especially when Jim's 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:45.760 talking about dunder Mifflin and this amazing, crazy, you know, 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:48.640 bizarre place that he lived and worked at and the 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:51.800 people that he grew up with and Creeds, you know, 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:54.360 playing the guitar there, you know, after the you know, 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:57.760 Angela and and do I come up after you know 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:01.480 the wedding is just this is some the just sweetest, 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:04.440 most beautiful moments and in a show's ending, I think 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:08.440 because you're bringing that nostalgia and and just a great 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:12.400 montage and um, and you kind of you wrap things 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:15.080 up now. I'm I love watching movies and shows and 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:18.480 and sometimes I think, you know, for certain shows or 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:20.040 movies you don't need it, and you don't need to 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:22.000 wrap things up. It's almost better with the mystery. But 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:24.760 I think with with the ride that that the Office 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:26.559 took us on for so many years, like it was 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:29.880 fun to to see all these different stories wrapped up, 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:33.719 and and to have ah Steve come back the way 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:35.880 that he did and the time that he did. That's 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:39.880 what she said, joke was so perfectly done. And and 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:44.640 to see Nelly come back, and to see Ryan and 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:48.360 Kelly end up together, and um and Dwight in the 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:50.400 dream job that he wants to and you and your 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:53.840 character with your bar and you guys patching things up, 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:57.440 and and Jim, you know, getting a grand gesture from 0:10:57.520 --> 0:10:59.679 Pam to to go do his dream job. I just 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:01.640 there's so many beautiful moments put in the end. It 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:03.760 comes down to that set, which I was lucky enough 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:05.920 to go on thankfully when I when you when you 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:09.560 showed me around, But just to end it there for 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:11.760 all of us, you know, it was just a really 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:13.440 special moment, I think, and I'm sure it was for 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:17.360 you guys to you know, it's it's funny coming up 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:19.480 in a in an episode not too long from now. 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:23.360 I sit down with Creed and he I saw him 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:25.760 the night before. We actually played in a benefit concert 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:28.240 the night before, and I said, hey, tomorrow, you're coming in, 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:32.199 we're gonna chat. Bring in your guitar. And he played 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:35.679 that song for me, just sitting and right now I'm 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:39.160 I'm I'm having feeling just him sitting there playing that 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:44.040 song with him. It will never not do something to 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:49.560 me for sure. Um the series finale, you mentioned you 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:53.200 were not scripted in the show, as you know. You know, 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:57.560 I've never revealed who was scripted. I may have told 0:11:57.600 --> 0:12:00.079 you it was a it was a famously remember it 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:02.360 was a famous tennis player. Let's just go with that. 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:05.640 It was a famous tennis player. And we finished the 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:10.439 table read and I went to Greg Daniels and I said, hey, 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:12.400 you know, I don't know if you know, if somebody 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:14.280 knows him, if he's going to come in or whatever. 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:16.160 I was like, but you know, I just want you 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:18.040 to know. Aaron Rodgers a big fan of the show, 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:19.720 and he's like Oh, do you think Aaron would do it? 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:23.440 I think he would. And uh, and then yeah, you 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:26.240 came on. Um, I remember us hanging out. Obviously we 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:28.480 weren't in it together, but a little bit, you know, 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:32.199 offset how was that experience for you coming on the 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:34.080 shows as being a big fan of the show and 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:36.439 you've gotten to know a lot of us at that point. 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:38.960 But yeah, and and that's the fun thing. I got 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:41.840 to be around, said a couple of times, and and 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:44.680 be out, you know, with you guys a few times, 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:46.760 and met a number of people, had met Angela and 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:51.400 Oscar and who else? Did I meet? Craig m bj 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:59.840 Novac you're doppelganger? Yeah, yeah, guys looking at the side 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:04.000 by side picture online? Yeah yeah, yeah, dead on. And 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:07.920 I met I met Steve on a plane randomly one time. 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:09.960 And I met Rain on set. So it was fun 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:12.280 to be out there. Uh. And we got to be 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:15.560 with Ed Helms on that shoot. So I was pumped. 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:17.440 I mean, I remember the drive down. I was so 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:20.640 excited to to just like be on the set and 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:22.080 and to see what was going on. I didn't know 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:24.720 what I was, you know, really the role I was. 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:28.040 I was walking into um and then I meet my 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:32.280 two other guest stars. It's uh Santa Gold, who I 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:36.120 didn't know who she was before, but she was really 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:40.120 really sweet and just a really sweet special person. We 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:42.560 had a fun, fun day and then Clay Aikin was 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:44.000 it was and I had known Clay because I had 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:47.360 been a fan of American idol um so uh to 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:50.280 this day when people you know who that's the beauty 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:51.960 in the show, there's so many people who just have 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:54.360 watched it now and they're like, hey, I just saw 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:56.760 you on the You're on the Office. I'm like, yeah, 0:13:56.840 --> 0:14:00.760 that was like eight years ago, you know, Like, but 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:03.200 I love that, and that's the timeless nature of the show. 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:05.000 But it was so fun beyond set and just watching 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:08.880 Ed work, you know, through his his bid and you know, 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:11.080 I just have so much respect for him and I 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:12.880 love what he brought to the show. And it's just 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:17.320 he's quirky nard dog that only only he could do. 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:20.520 Umbody was so funny beyond the said my favorite memory 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:23.000 from the show was you know, my lines, And I've 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:25.760 gotten some guff for it over the years, but it 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:28.600 wouldn't like I had the greatest lines, you know, and 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:31.800 and the one line, you know, the lines that they 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:34.920 end up using in the montage of the kind of 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:37.240 the viral song that comes out You're just not good 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:40.320 or whatever. Like I didn't mind those lines, but flag 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:43.360 on the play was not my favorite line. And I 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:47.880 just felt like, like, I get this, it's a football reference, 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:51.000 you know, but I would never say that, and Brian, 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:54.080 you know me, I'm like, it was just so cheesy. 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:57.200 So so if we did twelve takes, you know, if 0:14:57.200 --> 0:15:00.040 we did twelve takes, you know, four the times I 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:03.160 said flag on the play. The other eight I just 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:05.200 kind of add lib. But I was like, can I 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:07.520 just say something that I think I would use? And 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:09.680 so the first like I think three takes, I said 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:11.760 flag on the play, and then I just add live 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:15.880 after that, and the sweet sweet script lady would come 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:18.920 by and go, Mr Rogers, um, your line is flag 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:25.840 on the play, and you know that was like that 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:28.360 was like after like the third time I hadn't said it. 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:30.360 So we're in like take eight now, and I'm like, 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:34.000 I'm still gonna go something different, And you know, she 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:36.480 was so sweet. She never lost her patience, but I 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:40.480 could tell by about take eleven she was like, Hey, 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:44.120 your your line still is flag on the place. Oh yeah, yeah, sorry, 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:47.880 I forgot you know that I said flag on the 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:49.680 play and they got the twelfth take and I'm like, yeah, 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:53.400 they're gonna use that. That's but it was so it 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:55.600 was so fun being on there and then to see myself, 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:57.800 you know when they you know, when they cut to 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:01.040 the viral video of the baby wow, wow, you know 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:04.920 in the last episode. Um Man, it was so fun 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:08.320 And I do really appreciate be You're setting that up 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:12.000 for me and give me the opportunity because although I 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:14.760 never got seen and in another one of my all 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:17.760 time favorite shows, I've been in the penultimate episode of 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:20.440 now two of my all time favorite shows, the other 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:23.080 one being a Game of Thrones, which are still people 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:25.000 don't realize I might have been in there where with 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:27.320 the office they can actually see my face, my slightly 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:31.760 bloated still on my phase of eating the copious amounts 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:35.360 of dairy products all the time, but I did ahead 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:37.880 of last surday on set. Do you feel like that 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:40.760 your life has changed since being on the office, I mean, 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:44.400 do people recognize you in public? Yeah? I'd say that 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:47.800 was probably the biggest. The biggest thing I will say 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:50.120 though that you know, There's been some things over the 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:51.880 years that I think I've helped my brand as much 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:53.800 as anything. I always give State Farm credit for this 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:56.960 bizarre discount double check that. When I read the script 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:58.880 first time, I'm like, this is not funny, this is 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:01.720 like they gotta change since sure enough. I mean for 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:03.520 years it was. And you've been with me on the 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:06.000 golf course at Taho that was, and Pebble Beach that 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:07.639 was like the only thing people would yell at me 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:10.639 and I would and I would just laugh. How that 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:15.480 kind of changed my you know, my public persona. But 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:17.200 you and I have talked about the numbers of people 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:19.520 that have watched this show on Netflix, four times as 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:23.160 many watched on Netflix as any other show. It's unbelievable. 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:27.000 Um now, it's obviously over at the Peacock, but uh, 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:29.479 but I will say that I'm sure there were some 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:32.040 people wondering who the hell that was, and then other 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:35.440 people going, oh, isn't that that guy who's the insurance guy? 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:39.240 Is he was in the office? Wow? Okay, so yeah, 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:40.760 it might have helped my brand a little bit. But 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:44.479 that's funny. I appreciate it, buddy, It's fun He did 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:47.919 a great job with the you know, with the first podcast. 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:50.640 And that's the thing I think is beautiful is it's 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:54.240 so many people have you either loved this show since 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:58.679 season one or I've gotten into it more recently, but 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:00.600 it has stood the test of town time because it's 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:03.560 just so relatable and it has such a good message 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:05.359 all the while. It just keeps you laughing the whole 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:08.119 time because you just you know, some of the stuff 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:10.679 that Michael Pools and the pranks at Gym pools on 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:13.760 Dwight all the time, and and your character Aric and 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:16.360 Oscars and Angelas and everybody kind of gets that's cool. 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:18.720 Everybody kind of gets through opportunity to shine in different 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:21.960 episodes in different ways, which is which is really cool 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:24.600 to see as well. Yeah, one of the things we've 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:28.080 we've talked about is you know why the show is 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:30.919 still so big? I mean, why, quite frankly, is it 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:33.360 bigger now than it ever was when it was on? 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:36.679 And um, I think you've touched on a lot of 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:39.920 those things, sort of the universality that you know, how 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:43.040 how much people relate to the show. And I think 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:46.400 there's something else which I've sort of come to in 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:49.960 these conversations with so many people. Is that so many 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:54.159 shows after a decade or or longer since we you know, 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:58.320 and it's been sixteen years since the pilot aired, um 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:03.440 is that they feel dated or they feel not quite right. 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:06.399 And I think that the discovery that I've had is 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:10.760 that a documentary can never be dated. It is about 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:15.960 these people at this time, and it's so defining the 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:20.520 time that it you know, the clothes or the technology 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:23.879 that maybe isn't exactly the same, that doesn't matter because 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:27.080 it's about that and you're following that journey on that time. 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:29.840 And so you never do that like, oh, that's an 0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:32.479 old joke or oh that's you know, look at that 0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:34.960 flip phone or whatever. It's like, you don't if there's 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:37.120 a documentary about the seventies, you don't go this looks 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:39.680 this is dated. It's like, well, yeah, it's about the seventies. 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:46.480 Dink um. Anyway, Yeah, that's that's a really fascinating point 0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:48.280 that I'm just thinking about as you're saying that. It 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:50.480 makes a lot of sense because you watch old episodes 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:54.360 of uh Seinfeld of Friends or Saved by the Bill. 0:19:54.400 --> 0:19:56.120 There's some of the shows we grew up on, you like, 0:19:56.880 --> 0:19:59.600 man like they didn't have phones and they didn't the 0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:02.480 way they communicated and some of the jokes and stuff. 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:04.240 You look at it differently, for sure than when you 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:07.280 look at this faux documentary style, which by the way, 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:12.480 is just so brilliantly genius of Ricky and Stephen, you know, 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:16.560 to to start off, like and you pick a paper 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:19.760 company too, it's like, wait, what what do we Yeah, 0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:22.920 that's why. So and you pick a place, you know, Scranton, 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:25.919 p A. It's like, it's just this beautiful combination of 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:29.240 like the workplace, the fact that it's shot as a 0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:32.800 documentary it's in Scranton, p A. And you have the 0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:36.399 non PC characters in a time where the era is changing, 0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:41.080 and yeah, just all it's just all so beautifully done. Um, 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:42.879 and I think it will continue to standard test of 0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:46.280 time because there's a love affair of nostalgia of a 0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:49.600 time like that where things were maybe a little less 0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:53.840 precious than they are now. Well, thank you so much 0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:59.240 for talking to me about this as usual, so perceptive 0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:03.960 and and so deep about um well life and the show. Um. 0:21:04.000 --> 0:21:06.119 But before we leave, I feel like it's only fair 0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:08.840 that I ask you this question that you've told me 0:21:08.880 --> 0:21:11.440 without me asking many times who's your favorite character on 0:21:11.520 --> 0:21:19.200 the office. If you're definitely in my top five, I think, uh, 0:21:19.600 --> 0:21:22.399 that's exactly right. That's I thought it was gonna be 0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:25.159 a quick answer for you. I mean for those we 0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:28.080 play a lot of golf together, and oftentimes it's in public. 0:21:28.880 --> 0:21:33.040 You you always say that it's Creed. That's what you all. 0:21:33.160 --> 0:21:35.520 You always say that it's Creed. But maybe you're just 0:21:35.600 --> 0:21:39.199 needling me, and I'm just needling you because you know 0:21:39.280 --> 0:21:41.080 you may have been higher on the call sheet than him, 0:21:41.119 --> 0:21:43.600 and you actor types, you are also worried about who's 0:21:44.240 --> 0:21:47.560 ranked number one and number twenty on the call sheet? 0:21:48.000 --> 0:21:53.520 Are worried about that? Just after this is what you 0:21:53.560 --> 0:21:55.760 did too? You try to turn it right back on me. 0:21:56.359 --> 0:21:58.359 We had a classic. I just show this. We had 0:21:58.359 --> 0:22:00.760 a classic. You know. We're waiting on the on this 0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:04.080 whole in South Carolina playing the BMW event, and there's 0:22:04.119 --> 0:22:06.800