WEBVTT - Best NFL Week 17 Bets + Favorite Props (Ep. 39)

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<v Speaker 1>Hey everybody, Welcome back to the Betting Pros NFL Podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>brought to you by bet MGM. I'm your host, Dan Harris.

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<v Speaker 1>You can find me on Twitter at Dan Harris Ady.

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<v Speaker 1>It is time to break down some of our favorite

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<v Speaker 1>and our least favorite bets for the final regular season

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<v Speaker 1>week of the twenty nineteen NFL season. And with me

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about it all is Sean Corner, director of

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<v Speaker 1>predictive Analytics over at the Action Network. Sean is renowned

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<v Speaker 1>for his incredibly accurate projections for the NFL, which nearly

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<v Speaker 1>always leads to him being at the top of the

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<v Speaker 1>charts for the Fantasy pros Accuracy competition for Fantasy football,

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<v Speaker 1>but he is also near the top of the charts

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<v Speaker 1>for the Betting Pros Accuracy competition, so you're in good hands.

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<v Speaker 1>You can find him on Twitter at the Underscore Odds Maker. Sean.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for coming on the show. How's it going?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thanks for having me. It's going well, And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we were just mentioning this before we went on air,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think Week seventeen is define my favorite in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of just betting and daily fantasy and player props

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff. So looking forward to joining you this week specifically.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we talk about it a little bit in that

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<v Speaker 1>Week seventeen is kind of its own animal, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>every week you can make your bets. This week we're

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<v Speaker 1>really try.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a lot more based on gut field than it

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<v Speaker 1>is on the raw number. So we are recording this

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<v Speaker 1>on Thursday, as we always do with the show, but

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<v Speaker 1>unlike usual, it's the day after Christmas. So that means

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<v Speaker 1>two things. First, I think it's safe to say that

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't had quite the same amount of time to

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<v Speaker 1>do our full analysis of this weekend's games as we

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<v Speaker 1>ordinarily would. And second, I'm not really sure how much

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<v Speaker 1>that matters because it's week seventeen and you can't really

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<v Speaker 1>analyze it like a normal week. We also can't possibly

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<v Speaker 1>have all the necessary information as to who's going to

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<v Speaker 1>start or sit, which would otherwise impact our analysis. So

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<v Speaker 1>this week more than any other week, as I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll want to wait for as much information as possible

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<v Speaker 1>before placing your best. But with that said, Sean, before

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<v Speaker 1>we get into it, I do want to ask, because

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<v Speaker 1>this week is so wonky and lines have moved so

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<v Speaker 1>much already, have you been able to lock in any

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<v Speaker 1>numbers early in the week before things kind of corrected themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so early in the week. You know, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>few teams that don't have much to play for, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the Bills being one of them, the Vikings, and the Texans.

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<v Speaker 2>The Texans do have a little bit to play for

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<v Speaker 2>a I think they can move up a seed. But

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<v Speaker 2>when when they announced, Bill O'Brien said that they were gonna,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, play to win this week, the Lion was

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<v Speaker 2>up to Titans minus six, So I just I came

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<v Speaker 2>in hard on the Texans at plus six, just knowing

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<v Speaker 2>it was gonna it was gonna come down, get it

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<v Speaker 2>at the best number. So it's it's dropped down a

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<v Speaker 2>three and a half. So I wouldn't recommend taking them anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, that's how Week seventeen is is when

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<v Speaker 2>you get announcement like that, it's usually why is to

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<v Speaker 2>just take the line before it drops. So I have

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<v Speaker 2>the Texans plus six and that's all I have at

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<v Speaker 2>the moment. But the ones I'm gonna talk about today,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll likely have. I'm just waiting to see more information

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<v Speaker 2>before locking them in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the Texans in particular are in the weird situation

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<v Speaker 1>where I think they have the late game right, so

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<v Speaker 1>they might know whether or not they're locked in before

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<v Speaker 1>they even go because I think Kansas City plays the

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<v Speaker 1>early game, if that's right, unless I'm misremembering, so they

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<v Speaker 1>may have. But either way, their game matters because it

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<v Speaker 1>affects you know, it could affect the Steelers, right, it

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<v Speaker 1>depends on whether or not the Titans win, and I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like teams in that situation generally play hard. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, I kind of did the same thing where

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<v Speaker 1>when we were recording Monday, where we look ahead for

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<v Speaker 1>the early lines, I said that I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>hit the Bears who were getting seven. It was still

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<v Speaker 1>available at some books. A lot of books pull it

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<v Speaker 1>down during the game, but it was still available at

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<v Speaker 1>some books if it looked like the Vikings were going

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<v Speaker 1>to lose that game against Green Bay and essentially be

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<v Speaker 1>locked in. So I did. I hit it basically as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as that game ended. When it was up, So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm locked in at Chicago plus seven. The consensus line

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<v Speaker 1>is now Chicago plus one. I don't feel quite as

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<v Speaker 1>great about that, but I.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you know, yeah, well, you you locked in six

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<v Speaker 2>points of value there against potentially the closing number.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you did, of course, of course, of course, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>in that sense, of course. You know, I haven't yet

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<v Speaker 1>heard that the Vikings are resting the starters now anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>and they may want to get that ugly taste out

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<v Speaker 1>of their mouths and looking so futured off asily, but

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<v Speaker 1>obviously the value is there. But either way, that's sort

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<v Speaker 1>of a lesson to be learned in monitoring the lines

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<v Speaker 1>as we go along. So before we get into this

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<v Speaker 1>week's picks, I'm just gonna quickly review what went down

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<v Speaker 1>last week during the show our guest Sean Green. He

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<v Speaker 1>hit on the Packers getting five and a half from

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<v Speaker 1>the Vikings, the Eagles getting one and a half from

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys, and Jamis Winston going over three hundred passing yards.

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<v Speaker 1>His only non win was a push on the Bucks

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<v Speaker 1>getting three from the Textan, So a pretty nice week

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<v Speaker 1>for Sean. I hit on all three of my best bets,

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets getting three from the Steelers, the Dolphins and

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals over forty six and a half, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals getting nine and a half from the Seahawks. My

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<v Speaker 1>only miss was on Terry McLaurin going over one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>receiving yards, which was at plus one seventy for today.

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<v Speaker 1>As always, Sean and I are going to start with

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<v Speaker 1>the pick six, where we each give our three best

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<v Speaker 1>bets either against the spread or on the over. Under Sean,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't you get us started here?

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<v Speaker 2>So I'll just get started with a pretty meaningless game

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<v Speaker 2>the Browns and Bengals. I'm eyeing the over on this matchup.

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<v Speaker 2>My model likes the over environment for this game. It's

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<v Speaker 2>projected to be the sixth fastest pace matchup. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>ton of explosive play potential. It's actually my highest projection

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<v Speaker 2>in that regard. This week. You know, the Bengals have

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<v Speaker 2>allowed you know, the fourth highest explosive run play rate

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<v Speaker 2>and second highest exposive pass play rate. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>the Browns, you know, this will be a game where

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<v Speaker 2>the Browns wont to end on a good note. They've

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<v Speaker 2>struggled this year, so I could see Baker Chubb, O'Dell Beckham,

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<v Speaker 2>and Jarvis LANs y'all having big games here. The Bengals.

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<v Speaker 2>They should be without William Jackson this week. He was

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<v Speaker 2>placed on an ir. He did a good job chuting

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<v Speaker 2>down Odell just three games ago. They played, so he'll

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<v Speaker 2>be out. So that's going to prove the matchup. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Miles Garrett is obviously out for the Browns, but they

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<v Speaker 2>they have Sheldon Richardson and Olivia Vernon are also questionable.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is just a game that, you know, especially

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<v Speaker 2>when it's meaningless, we could just see a sneaky shootout.

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<v Speaker 2>The only reason I'm waiting to bet this is it

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<v Speaker 2>opened at forty six. It's it's been hit pretty hard

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<v Speaker 2>on the under. Sixty three percent of the money has

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<v Speaker 2>come in on the under. I think that's due to

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<v Speaker 2>the weather report. It looks like there's a ninety percent

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<v Speaker 2>chance of rain. I typically don't bet based on any

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<v Speaker 2>weather report more than seventy two hours before the game,

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<v Speaker 2>so in situations like this, the market can actually over

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<v Speaker 2>correct and give some pretty good value. So if the

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<v Speaker 2>weather report looks like it's going to clear up a bit,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll come in hard on the over, or just when

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<v Speaker 2>it seems like the line will reach its low point,

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<v Speaker 2>which it could be right around forty three and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>Y No, I'm gonna come in the over, but this

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<v Speaker 2>one I'm just waiting to see until I get the

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<v Speaker 2>best number out of curiosity.

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<v Speaker 1>How much does a game like that's gonna see, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>unless it's torrential downpours? How long? Does how much this

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<v Speaker 1>heavy rain impact whether or not you want to hit

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<v Speaker 1>the over because for me, I always think of it

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<v Speaker 1>more as you know, really windy days are are stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that can really affect the passing game or the kicking game.

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<v Speaker 1>But I never know how much to incorporate rain necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>into whether or not I want to bet the over under.

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<v Speaker 1>Does it move it significantly in your mind what you

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<v Speaker 1>want to do?

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<v Speaker 2>Usually not rain. Wind is definitely a big factor. Rain

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<v Speaker 2>not so much, And I think it always you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it always comes out of the matchup in this game.

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<v Speaker 2>If if they do run the ball more, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>that big of a deal. We saw Joe mix in

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<v Speaker 2>last week struggle a bit. He came into the game

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<v Speaker 2>with the stomach above. He should be, you know, closer

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<v Speaker 2>to one hundred percent this week, but he lit up

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<v Speaker 2>the Browns just a few weeks ago, ran the ball

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three times for one hundred and forty six yards

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<v Speaker 2>in a touchdown. On the other side of the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>We all know that Nick Chubb and Cream Hunt can

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<v Speaker 2>rack up yards, so in this matchup, even if it

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<v Speaker 2>is pretty rainy, I think the you know, the rushing

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<v Speaker 2>offense versus the rushing defense is a pretty good matchup,

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<v Speaker 2>so I think that again, there's still sneaky play on

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<v Speaker 2>the over even if the weather is pretty inclement. But

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<v Speaker 2>we'll have time to kind of get a better forecast

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<v Speaker 2>closer to the game. So it looks like it is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be bad that this number could drop to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, forty one and a half or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just think the market is typically get overcorrect

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<v Speaker 2>in a matchup like this, so I'm just letting it do.

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<v Speaker 2>It's you know, lower as much as possible. And they've

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<v Speaker 2>actually passed through some key numbers when it comes to totals,

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<v Speaker 2>a number like forty four, forty three, those are some

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<v Speaker 2>of the key numbers I look for, so it's already

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<v Speaker 2>moved down to that range. So I think it's providing

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<v Speaker 2>a ton of value now, but I just want to

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<v Speaker 2>wait and see.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely right now, it's sitting at forty three and

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<v Speaker 1>a half in our consensus, but it has been moving

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<v Speaker 1>all week, so certainly can wait till closer to game

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<v Speaker 1>time to see where it ends up. For my first pick,

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<v Speaker 1>I am going to take the Falcons and the Bucks

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<v Speaker 1>under forty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bucks have been a pretty good overplay for the

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<v Speaker 1>majority of the season, but obviously there are some differences

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<v Speaker 1>in the team now, the biggest being the loss of

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<v Speaker 1>both Mike Evans and Chris Godwin. But their secondary has

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<v Speaker 1>quietly started to play a lot better. Carlton Davis has

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<v Speaker 1>really improved as the season has kind of long. You

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<v Speaker 1>saw it last week with DeAndre Hopkins. And they've been

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<v Speaker 1>able to stop the run all year. Everybody knows that,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not just being able to stop the running game.

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<v Speaker 1>It's they've been really elite at stopping passes to the

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<v Speaker 1>running backs too, And that's really a big deal when

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<v Speaker 1>you have Vonta Freeman because that's what he's been doing

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<v Speaker 1>a lot for most of the season. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know the Falcons are going to get Julio his

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen hundred yards. He needs about eighty four yards. They are.

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<v Speaker 1>Austin Hooper's there, but I'm not really sure what else

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna do offensively. I think Christian Blake is the

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<v Speaker 1>second wide receiver. I know he's out there. I've looked

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<v Speaker 1>at him, but he's just not really getting targeted whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an outdoor game. The Falcons aren't quite a shit

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<v Speaker 1>about doors, so I don't see this as a huge

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<v Speaker 1>game for their offense. On the other side, it just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of is what it is at this point for

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<v Speaker 1>the Bucks offense. Prashad Perriman and Justin Watson, they're just

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<v Speaker 1>not the same as Mike Evans and Chris Godwin. Even

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<v Speaker 1>more than that, though, you really look at the Falcons defense,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's really turned around. In the second half.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year, they allowed twenty six point four points per

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<v Speaker 1>game before the bye. This year, they were allowing more

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<v Speaker 1>than thirty one points per game. Then coming out of

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<v Speaker 1>the by you heard that there was this report that

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Quinn was giving up the play calling duties on

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<v Speaker 1>the defense. Since then, they're giving up only about eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>points per game. And it's not like that's just an

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<v Speaker 1>easy schedule. They've played the Saints twice, for example, so

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<v Speaker 1>part of it is that they got a little healthier too.

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<v Speaker 1>But for whatever reason, they're playing well, they're playing hard.

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<v Speaker 1>And I could also see Julio Jones kind of taking

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<v Speaker 1>a seat here. He's always injured, he's you know, fighting

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<v Speaker 1>through injury pretty much the whole year. Once against to

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<v Speaker 1>his fourteen hundred yards, I could see him taking a

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<v Speaker 1>seat here. So for me, you know, the Bucks over

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<v Speaker 1>has been a good play for the majority of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, I like the under here at forty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that's a great play. Actually, before the

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<v Speaker 2>opening lines came out, I had this game projected at

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<v Speaker 2>forty eight. That's where I think the over under probably

0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:05.439
<v Speaker 2>should have been. And when it opened at fifteen and

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<v Speaker 2>a half, I didn't jump in it right away because

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, you know, everybody would be attacking the over

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<v Speaker 2>here and it might bump up to like fifty one

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<v Speaker 2>to fifty one and a half or something. Boy was

0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:17.199
<v Speaker 2>I wrong it. Yeah, the mark hat definitely corrected in

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<v Speaker 2>the right direction. So now it's you know, forty eight

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<v Speaker 2>forty seven and a half. So yeah, I would say

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<v Speaker 2>the value shot now. But I do do like the

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<v Speaker 2>under in this game. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw it at forty seven actually earlier, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh no, But then it seems to have

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<v Speaker 1>corrected it. Stuff. So it has been bat a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of these lines, that's the thing. More so than any

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<v Speaker 1>other week. I feel like the lines are completely all

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<v Speaker 1>over the place, yep, but it's fun. So what's your

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<v Speaker 1>second pick here, Sean?

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<v Speaker 2>So this game, I'm I'm probably not going to take

0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:42.360
<v Speaker 2>the Chargers before the game starts, I've I've lost enough

0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:44.800
<v Speaker 2>money on them this year. They've just been a tease

0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:48.240
<v Speaker 2>this year, very frustrating team. They're way better than their

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<v Speaker 2>five and ten record. Their Pythagoraythereum expected record is actually

0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:56.080
<v Speaker 2>seven point six wins and seven point four losses. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of that's due to their two to nine record

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<v Speaker 2>and one game one score game. You can make a

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<v Speaker 2>case that's due to poor coaching, but typically teams regress

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<v Speaker 2>to you know, winning those games half the time. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I've always said that they don't really have

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<v Speaker 2>much of a home field advantage since moving here in

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<v Speaker 2>la I actually lived down the street from the stadium,

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<v Speaker 2>so I've known about this for a while that we

0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:20.200
<v Speaker 2>don't really have the most loyal fans, so it's usually

0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:23.840
<v Speaker 2>mostly just you know, teams rooting for the way fans

0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:26.400
<v Speaker 2>rooting for the way team. We saw Philip Rivers have

0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:28.520
<v Speaker 2>to do a silent count last week at home, so

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<v Speaker 2>they're fourteen and seven against the spread on the road

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<v Speaker 2>since moving here. So I think people still overlook that

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<v Speaker 2>quite a bit. Having said that, this isn't a game

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to take before the game starts, because as

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<v Speaker 2>this game plays, I'll be looking at the Patriots Dolphins game.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think if the Patriots get off to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a fast start there and they get you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen plus lead in that game, we could see the

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<v Speaker 2>Chiefs pull back a little bit, potentially sit Patrick Mahomes.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that's likely, but that's just a potential

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<v Speaker 2>we have to look for. But also, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>Chargers in general typically get off to a slow start.

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<v Speaker 2>So Philip Rivers in his first ten pass attempts this year,

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<v Speaker 2>he's had a three eight to seven touchdown interception ratio

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<v Speaker 2>with the QB rating of seventy seven, and then the

0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:19.680
<v Speaker 2>rest of the game it improves to eighteen touchdown to

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<v Speaker 2>eleven picks ratio with the QB rating of ninety five

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<v Speaker 2>point two. So he does improve as the game goes.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is a game where I'm expecting the in

0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:30.840
<v Speaker 2>game line could move up to you know, say ten

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<v Speaker 2>and a half to seventeen and a half, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>they're more likely to do, you know, pull off the

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<v Speaker 2>back door cover in that situation, So I'm not gonna

0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:41.000
<v Speaker 2>take him plus nine to start when we get more

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<v Speaker 2>value in game, and that's that's when where you'll want

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<v Speaker 2>to monitor other games to see how a team like

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<v Speaker 2>the Chiefs could start to pull back as the game

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<v Speaker 2>goes on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the only thing they have right in there is

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<v Speaker 1>the possibility of getting the two seed. I mean I could,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I could lose. As we talked about today,

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<v Speaker 1>they could switch to the fourth seed as well. If

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<v Speaker 1>the Texans win and they lose.

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<v Speaker 2>Right yeah, yeah, I think that is a possibility.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think the Texans play later again, so they're

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<v Speaker 1>really and that's not a big deal. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to play Buffalo if you can avoid it.

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<v Speaker 1>But regardless, it is really about getting the buy. And

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<v Speaker 1>if the Patriots destroy the Dolphins, as I think most

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<v Speaker 1>people expect them to do, then you could certainly see

0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:17.480
<v Speaker 1>them pulling back. So I like that call as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a great feel for it, as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as you mentioned at the start of the game. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>it's certainly not a game that I'm looking It's bounced

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth between eight and a half and nine

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<v Speaker 1>and a half, kind of all week, but I like

0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:30.160
<v Speaker 1>the in game plan that for my second one. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you're gonna like this one, Shohn, So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to listen to what you have to say,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm going to take the Broncos laying three and

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<v Speaker 1>a half here to the Raiders. Now, it's at three

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<v Speaker 1>in a couple of books, so if you can get

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<v Speaker 1>it there, I much prefer it there. But even with

0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:44.520
<v Speaker 1>the hook, I'll still take it. The Raiders. They have

0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:47.200
<v Speaker 1>this legitimate chance they hit on this ridiculous thing where

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<v Speaker 1>like ten things are going to fall their way and

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<v Speaker 1>they somehow make the playoffs. But I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen, and I think that if all else fails,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not gonna happen, because I think the Raiders are

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<v Speaker 1>going to lose this game, and they're going to lose

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<v Speaker 1>it by more than three points. The Broncos are not

0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:02.520
<v Speaker 1>a bad football team. They could have easily been in

0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:04.600
<v Speaker 1>the mix of a few things went their way earlier.

0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:07.560
<v Speaker 1>Drew Locke is competent. They're leaning on Philip Lindsay more,

0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:09.719
<v Speaker 1>Courtlin Suttons, one of the more talented wide receivers in

0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:12.760
<v Speaker 1>the game. Their defense is solid. They're capable of putting

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<v Speaker 1>up some points, especially against a team like the Raiders

0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:18.600
<v Speaker 1>that are thirtieth and weighted defensive DVOA and offensively. The

0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Raiders are just they're down some key pieces. They did

0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:23.600
<v Speaker 1>get Hunter Renfro back, but it's still unclear if Josh

0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:25.480
<v Speaker 1>Jacobs is going to play. You had some minor leg

0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:28.600
<v Speaker 1>procedure yesterday. Apparently it was just for an infection. I'm

0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:30.680
<v Speaker 1>not sure about his availability, but he obviously has the

0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:33.960
<v Speaker 1>shoulder injury. Trent Brown is now on IR Richie Incognito

0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:35.480
<v Speaker 1>missed last week. I don't know if he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be back here. So their line has kind of been

0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:40.040
<v Speaker 1>their strength all seasons. So without those guys it really

0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:42.520
<v Speaker 1>hurts them. And I get that it's a narrative, but

0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:45.320
<v Speaker 1>Derek Carr does not play well in cold weather. I

0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:47.400
<v Speaker 1>think his teams are two and eleven or two and

0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:50.920
<v Speaker 1>twelve when the weather's under fifty degrees. I've lost count

0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:52.760
<v Speaker 1>at this point. It's a high of thirty seven in

0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:55.240
<v Speaker 1>Denver on Sunday. It's a tough place to play anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>It's their second divisional game. The Broncos surely want to

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<v Speaker 1>go out on a high. Note, especially after losing to

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<v Speaker 1>the Raiders in Week one, and even if the Raiders

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<v Speaker 1>like just you know, from a very public perspective, the

0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:08.200
<v Speaker 1>Raiders are like, well, they might have a chance of

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs and the Broncos don't. So you know, don't

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<v Speaker 1>you want to favor that team? I think you know,

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<v Speaker 1>more often than not, these teams come out that are

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<v Speaker 1>out of it and they play really hard. Guys are

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<v Speaker 1>playing for jobs. I think they want to win after

0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:22.960
<v Speaker 1>they got embarrassed a little bit in that opening game,

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<v Speaker 1>so I think they're going to play hard here. So

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<v Speaker 1>for me, I'm interested here because I have a feeling

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<v Speaker 1>you might not agree, but I will take the Broncos

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<v Speaker 1>length three and a half to the Raiders.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I like the call. That's a game where I'm

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<v Speaker 2>probably staying away from. It's really tough betting on a

0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:39.320
<v Speaker 2>team that doesn't have anything to play for. But I

0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:42.080
<v Speaker 2>forgot the theory. But you know, the Raiders fall under

0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:44.200
<v Speaker 2>it where you know they're a bad team. It's almost

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<v Speaker 2>a miracle they even have a chance for a playoff

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<v Speaker 2>birth here. But you know, a team like that, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a reason they're fighting for a playoff spot. So those

0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:57.360
<v Speaker 2>teams are more likely to have a letdown game, so

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<v Speaker 2>I think they will be a popular bet. Looks like

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<v Speaker 2>about sixty five to seventy percent of the action has

0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:06.080
<v Speaker 2>come in on them, and you know, the Broncos are

0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:07.760
<v Speaker 2>still laying a key number like three and a half,

0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:10.080
<v Speaker 2>So I think there is some sharp action on the Broncos.

0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:13.640
<v Speaker 2>And like you said, I think the Broncos are very underrated.

0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:16.520
<v Speaker 2>They if they make a couple splash landings in the offseason,

0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:19.400
<v Speaker 2>they could be sort of the twenty nineteen Browns going

0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:22.800
<v Speaker 2>into next year. You know, hopefully it doesn't turn out

0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:25.280
<v Speaker 2>that partly, but I think they have a lot of

0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:27.920
<v Speaker 2>pieces in place. Drew Locke has impressed me. He's been

0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:29.840
<v Speaker 2>a lot better than I thought he'd be. So this

0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:32.120
<v Speaker 2>is another game where, yeah, I think they'll try to

0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:33.920
<v Speaker 2>have a statement game heading in the next year. So

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<v Speaker 2>even though they don't have much to play for, they

0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:38.360
<v Speaker 2>don't have anything to play for for the playoffs, I

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<v Speaker 2>think this will be a game where they come out

0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:41.600
<v Speaker 2>more motivated than people think.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think you know, when they these lines are set,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you know, the people who set the lines

0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:50.080
<v Speaker 1>know that the public is going to be thinking about, oh,

0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:51.840
<v Speaker 1>one team has a chance to play for something the

0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:53.880
<v Speaker 1>other team doesn't, and so more of the money is

0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:55.480
<v Speaker 1>going to come in on it. But like you said,

0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:57.040
<v Speaker 1>the fact that the line's not moving, it's been at

0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:59.000
<v Speaker 1>three and a half all week, I think says that

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably more of a play.

0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:04.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And we've seen the Raiders have a massive letdown

0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:06.719
<v Speaker 2>game in a spot like this before. I mean, they

0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:10.280
<v Speaker 2>played the last game ever in Oakland and they let

0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:12.639
<v Speaker 2>the Jaguars come back and beat them. So that just

0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:15.240
<v Speaker 2>goes to show you that they would be the type

0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:17.000
<v Speaker 2>of team that would have a letdown game in this

0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:17.680
<v Speaker 2>exact spot.

0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:20.040
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, And you can't take anything away from the fact

0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:22.960
<v Speaker 1>that they just destroyed the Chargers because that doesn't count,

0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:25.639
<v Speaker 1>as he basically does exactly. All right, let's movo on

0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:26.800
<v Speaker 1>to your last pick. What do you got?

0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:30.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So this this game, it's a cluster injury situation.

0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:34.280
<v Speaker 2>So the the Seahawks have had a brutal stretch where

0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:37.000
<v Speaker 2>they lost for Sea Penny. Then last week they lost

0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:40.520
<v Speaker 2>Chris Carson and CJ. Prosss. So a situation like that,

0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:43.399
<v Speaker 2>I do I facor that in quite a bit. So

0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:46.399
<v Speaker 2>I think they're they you know, probably Dock them off

0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:48.199
<v Speaker 2>about a point, maybe a point and a half on

0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:51.600
<v Speaker 2>the power rating. Now, they did bring in Marshawn Lynch

0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:54.639
<v Speaker 2>and Robert Turbin, which you know is exciting from a

0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:58.320
<v Speaker 2>DFS perspective, but you know, I think they'll fill in

0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:00.240
<v Speaker 2>a bit. But I think Travis Homer will be the

0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:02.760
<v Speaker 2>starting running back. But ultimately this game is gonna come

0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:06.080
<v Speaker 2>down on Russell Wilson's shoulders. So I like getting him

0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:08.920
<v Speaker 2>at home here getting plus three and a half. I

0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:12.879
<v Speaker 2>thought the Niners had probably closed maybe one and a

0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:14.840
<v Speaker 2>half to two point favorite here, but three and a

0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:17.440
<v Speaker 2>half is just way too much on the road. Russell

0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:20.199
<v Speaker 2>Wilson's only been a home underdog seven times in his

0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:23.520
<v Speaker 2>career and he's six and one, so I just think,

0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:25.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, getting him here at home is just a

0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:29.639
<v Speaker 2>clutch game like this. This is definitely my play of

0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:32.640
<v Speaker 2>the week. So while I'm avoiding most of the games

0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:36.920
<v Speaker 2>because they're involving teams with nothing to play for, this

0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:39.240
<v Speaker 2>is the This is the one game I'm treating straight

0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:40.600
<v Speaker 2>up and feel pretty good about.

0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:42.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, I wonder whether or not this might be

0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:45.560
<v Speaker 1>beneficial to the Seahawks who have all these injuries at

0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:47.680
<v Speaker 1>running back because no matter what, they're not going to

0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:50.760
<v Speaker 1>give the same number of carries. Even however, the backfield,

0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:52.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, shakes out with the three running backs, so

0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:55.200
<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine they're going to run it as much

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<v Speaker 1>as they were when you had Carson and Penny and

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<v Speaker 1>even pro Sise. So I think putting the game more

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<v Speaker 1>in Russell Wilson's hands, even though the Niners are probably

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<v Speaker 1>a little more exploitable on the ground, I think that's

0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:08.520
<v Speaker 1>only a good thing for Seattle. And you know, the

0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:10.720
<v Speaker 1>game against Arizona, I just feel like they were, you know,

0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:12.159
<v Speaker 1>as much as they had the injuries, I feel like

0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:13.960
<v Speaker 1>they were just kind of looking past it. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like they were just looking at this game, and as

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<v Speaker 1>much as it affected, you know, the seating that they'll

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<v Speaker 1>get if they win the division, I think they were

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<v Speaker 1>just looking at this game. So I like the call.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I if I can do it. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>it's something where I think there is value, but I've

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<v Speaker 1>had trouble pulling the trigger on it. And again I

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<v Speaker 1>agree with you. I expected it to be closer. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it might have been two and a half at

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<v Speaker 1>one point, but it's basically been sitting now at three

0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:34.480
<v Speaker 1>and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>Well they've yeah, they've been just getting killed, I would say.

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<v Speaker 2>So it looks like they're seventy five percent of the

0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:42.399
<v Speaker 2>tickets and eighty two percent of the money that was

0:19:42.440 --> 0:19:45.439
<v Speaker 2>just you know, just sheer money and ticket action coming in,

0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:47.479
<v Speaker 2>so they had to move it past key number. So right,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see going forward. If it stays at three and

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<v Speaker 2>a half, that might worry me. But I think Sharps

0:19:52.600 --> 0:19:53.639
<v Speaker 2>are going to come in on the three and a

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<v Speaker 2>half pretty soon.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I like it. For my final pick, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to take. This is so much more of a

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<v Speaker 1>narrative play. But we're in week seventeen. I'm going to

0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:03.800
<v Speaker 1>take the Ravens and Steelers. When I took it the

0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:07.399
<v Speaker 1>under it was thirty eight. It now our consensus is

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seven, So whatever, I don't care, I'll taking It'll

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<v Speaker 1>be twenty five. I'll take it. I talked about this

0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:14.200
<v Speaker 1>when we took an early look at the lines back

0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:16.840
<v Speaker 1>on Monday. There's always a worry with a defensive score

0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:19.880
<v Speaker 1>or two. With this matchup, both defenses are excellent, even

0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:22.919
<v Speaker 1>with some Ravens resting here on the defensive side. But

0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:25.679
<v Speaker 1>outside of that, It's really tough to see this getting

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<v Speaker 1>even to this number of thirty sevens. The Steelers are

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<v Speaker 1>so abysmal offensively. I mean, Duck Hodges would not be

0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:35.320
<v Speaker 1>in there if Mason Rudolph were healthy. The alternative now

0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:38.560
<v Speaker 1>is Paxton Lynch. James Connor misspractice again today. I'm sure

0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:40.600
<v Speaker 1>he's going to miss this game. We don't know who's

0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:42.080
<v Speaker 1>going to be on the defense for the Ravens. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the only thing we do know for sure is

0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:46.560
<v Speaker 1>Brandon Williams is not going to play. That obviously hurts

0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:49.080
<v Speaker 1>the run defense. But again, if it's Benny Snell leading

0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:52.359
<v Speaker 1>the way, the Ravens can't possibly fear Hodges. It's not

0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:53.840
<v Speaker 1>like I expect them to be able to run all

0:20:53.840 --> 0:20:56.399
<v Speaker 1>over the Ravens. More importantly, we have talked about this

0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:59.680
<v Speaker 1>a couple of times on this podcast before. John Harbaugh

0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:02.879
<v Speaker 1>does not like to lose. He crushes in the preseason.

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<v Speaker 1>He does not want to lose this game to the Steelers,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe let them into the playoffs. He wants to win.

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<v Speaker 1>So whoever is out there, he is going to play

0:21:10.200 --> 0:21:12.840
<v Speaker 1>to win the game. The Steelers have an outstanding all

0:21:12.880 --> 0:21:15.440
<v Speaker 1>around defense, and we know there's no Mark Ingram, there's

0:21:15.440 --> 0:21:17.200
<v Speaker 1>no Lamar Jackson. I'm sure there are going to be

0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:19.120
<v Speaker 1>a couple of other offensive starters who are going to sit.

0:21:19.480 --> 0:21:21.480
<v Speaker 1>RG three is probably going to run the exact same

0:21:21.520 --> 0:21:23.159
<v Speaker 1>type of offense, which means there's going to be a

0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:24.879
<v Speaker 1>lot on the ground. It's going to eat up the clock,

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<v Speaker 1>probably try to avoid turnovers. It's hard to judge these

0:21:28.160 --> 0:21:29.760
<v Speaker 1>games when you have a lot of backups in. But

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the totals for the Steelers last seven games

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<v Speaker 1>is twenty nine, twenty eight, twenty six, thirty three, forty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven and twenty six. It's not all that much

0:21:40.520 --> 0:21:42.440
<v Speaker 1>rocket science. I think Tomlin is going to try to

0:21:42.480 --> 0:21:45.400
<v Speaker 1>keep Hodges from losing the game. He'll probably play conservative,

0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:47.520
<v Speaker 1>try to win it with his defense. So even at

0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:50.640
<v Speaker 1>thirty seven, which is an abysmally low total, I'm gonna

0:21:50.640 --> 0:21:52.600
<v Speaker 1>still ride with it and take the under thirty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it, Okay, I'll take it. That's all you

0:21:55.119 --> 0:21:57.879
<v Speaker 1>gotta say. I will take it. All right, let's recap here, Sean,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to take the Bengals on the Browns over

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<v Speaker 1>forty three and a half. You're obviously waiting till the

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<v Speaker 1>end to see all all the shakes out. You're gonna

0:22:04.320 --> 0:22:05.960
<v Speaker 1>take the Seahawks getting three and a half from the

0:22:05.960 --> 0:22:08.160
<v Speaker 1>forty nine Ers, and you're gonna almost certainly be popping

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<v Speaker 1>an in game bet here on the Chargers or the

0:22:11.160 --> 0:22:13.159
<v Speaker 1>Casey game. Once the Pats look like they may be

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<v Speaker 1>running away with their game against the Dolphins. I'm gonna

0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:18.240
<v Speaker 1>take the Falcons in the Bucks under forty eight, the

0:22:18.240 --> 0:22:20.560
<v Speaker 1>Broncos link three and a half to the Raiders, and

0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:23.280
<v Speaker 1>the Ravens and the Steelers to go under the really

0:22:23.280 --> 0:22:25.439
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<v Speaker 1>we each list one bet we are avoiding. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm avoiding betting on the Steelers Ravens spread. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>at certain times this week I really liked the Ravens

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<v Speaker 2>and other times I really like the Steelers. You kind

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<v Speaker 2>of mentioned it. I think this is the type of

0:24:15.280 --> 0:24:18.000
<v Speaker 2>game that the Steelers, you know, would be pretty good at.

0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:20.720
<v Speaker 2>I think they would get away with the conservative game plan,

0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:23.399
<v Speaker 2>sort of keep the ball out of Duck Hodge's hands,

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<v Speaker 2>lean on the run game, lean on that strong defense,

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<v Speaker 2>and just keep it close, and they should be able

0:24:28.320 --> 0:24:30.560
<v Speaker 2>to pull it off against a Ravens team that's you know,

0:24:30.640 --> 0:24:33.840
<v Speaker 2>resting a lot of key players. But I mean the

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<v Speaker 2>advance line for this game, I probably would have this

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<v Speaker 2>around man minus thirteen and a half or minus fourteen

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<v Speaker 2>if everybody was active and trying for the Ravens. So

0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:46.760
<v Speaker 2>a sixteen point line move as good as Lamar Jackson

0:24:46.880 --> 0:24:49.760
<v Speaker 2>is and some of the key players like mark Ingramar,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's a lot of points, you know. I

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<v Speaker 2>think RG three and Gus Edwards will be fine. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's just the game where I've been tempted to go

0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:02.080
<v Speaker 2>either way. So I've just decided, Okay, that means I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to bet either side. I'm just gonna enjoy

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<v Speaker 2>this game, whether it's betting on player props or dfs.

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<v Speaker 2>But I am not going to even try to take

0:25:10.080 --> 0:25:10.640
<v Speaker 2>a side here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I completely agree with you. I like the under

0:25:13.720 --> 0:25:15.920
<v Speaker 1>because I don't expect I expect both teams to just

0:25:16.000 --> 0:25:19.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of relax and lean on their defense. But I

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea. I do not have a feel for

0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:23.560
<v Speaker 1>this game. And it's one of many this week, and

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<v Speaker 1>the one that I'm avoiding is the Cowboys laying ten

0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:28.160
<v Speaker 1>and a half to the Redskins. I felt good about

0:25:28.160 --> 0:25:30.359
<v Speaker 1>the Redskins earlier in the week, the line was a

0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:32.600
<v Speaker 1>couple of points higher. I think case Keenum at this

0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:37.120
<v Speaker 1>point is at worst a lateral move from Dwayne Haskins probably,

0:25:37.320 --> 0:25:39.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, an upgrade, but the offensive line is really

0:25:39.760 --> 0:25:42.439
<v Speaker 1>beat up. Terry McLaurin is still in the concussion protocol.

0:25:42.480 --> 0:25:44.439
<v Speaker 1>Last I checked, I haven't seen anything yet from today.

0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:49.120
<v Speaker 1>They're completely decimated in their secondary. Their corners are Aaron Colvin,

0:25:49.280 --> 0:25:52.560
<v Speaker 1>Cody Sensebaal, and cam On Webster. You saw how easily

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<v Speaker 1>the Giants carved them up last week, so it is

0:25:54.520 --> 0:25:57.000
<v Speaker 1>really hard to see them stopping the Cowboys at all.

0:25:57.320 --> 0:26:00.359
<v Speaker 1>But Dak Prescott does not look right, and it's a

0:26:00.440 --> 0:26:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Jason Garrett led team. So I feel like that's seen

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<v Speaker 1>the Princess Bride, where Zemi's explaining how because of X factor,

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<v Speaker 1>I clearly can choose the wine in front of you.

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<v Speaker 1>But then he goes through another factor and says, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I clearly can choose the wine in front of me.

0:26:14.320 --> 0:26:16.240
<v Speaker 1>And that's basically how I feel. I can't choose the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys wine, can't choose the Redskins wine. I'm just gonna

0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:21.280
<v Speaker 1>drink beer and be happier for it. So that's the

0:26:21.280 --> 0:26:26.520
<v Speaker 1>game I'm avoiding. You are avoiding the Steelers laying two

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<v Speaker 1>to the Ravens, and I'm avoiding the Cowboys lank ten

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<v Speaker 1>let's finish up with top prop. What's your best player

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<v Speaker 1>prop for this weekend?

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, we were talking about this before we

0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:18.600
<v Speaker 2>went on air, but week seventeen sportsbooks definitely like to

0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:21.040
<v Speaker 2>hold off player props as long as possible. It's definitely

0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:24.879
<v Speaker 2>the trickiest week for that market. There's only one player

0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:27.439
<v Speaker 2>prop out there right now. It's Travis Homer's rushing yards.

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<v Speaker 2>And I actually do like this prop. It opened up

0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:32.280
<v Speaker 2>at forty two and a half, which I think is

0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:34.359
<v Speaker 2>a pretty good line. I would set it closer to

0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:37.320
<v Speaker 2>forty five and a half. I have Homer getting eleven

0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:40.439
<v Speaker 2>point seven carries here. Pete Carroll mentioned, you know, he

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:42.359
<v Speaker 2>wants to kind of stick with the guy that's been there,

0:27:43.200 --> 0:27:46.080
<v Speaker 2>so they mentioned they would lean on Travis Homer this game.

0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:49.440
<v Speaker 2>I think Marshawn Lynch, you know, he will get sort

0:27:49.440 --> 0:27:53.399
<v Speaker 2>of the short down goal line work, but Homer should

0:27:53.400 --> 0:27:55.879
<v Speaker 2>get the carries between the twenties. And that's that's where

0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:58.600
<v Speaker 2>a prop like this comes into play. Really, Robert Turbin,

0:27:58.720 --> 0:28:00.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm assuming we'll just be nothing more than a change

0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:04.280
<v Speaker 2>of pace back. So I like Homer getting over forty

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:06.400
<v Speaker 2>two and a half yards. And you know, since we've

0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:08.240
<v Speaker 2>been on air, the line has dropped to thirty nine

0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:10.200
<v Speaker 2>and a half. I think this is one of those

0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:12.960
<v Speaker 2>things where people are they're just excited to see Beast

0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:16.639
<v Speaker 2>mode Sunday night. So I think the Homer prop it

0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 2>could just go down. I think people will just expect

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:22.680
<v Speaker 2>Marshall Lench to just inherit a twenty Carrie roll or something.

0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:26.240
<v Speaker 2>So it's rare that I do attack overs on player props,

0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:27.960
<v Speaker 2>but I think this is one, especially at three and

0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:30.600
<v Speaker 2>a half. I have I ran my assimulator on it,

0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:32.920
<v Speaker 2>and I have them getting over that roughly fifty nine

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<v Speaker 2>percent of the time. So there's quite a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>value on this right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I like that one too. Yeah, I agree with

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<v Speaker 1>you completely, by the way, with player propats, which I love,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, probably more even than betting generally on the spread,

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<v Speaker 1>the unders are usually where I like to hammer it

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<v Speaker 1>because I almost always see more value there. Now on

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<v Speaker 1>this we always talk about it. It's Thursday. There aren't

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<v Speaker 1>that many props that are available in the market, and

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<v Speaker 1>then that's especially true as you said this week, So

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<v Speaker 1>more often than not, we are taking overs because that's

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<v Speaker 1>what's available over at points bet, and that is what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to do here. And I'm gonna take Christian

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<v Speaker 1>McCaffrey to go over seventy five yards receiving, which is

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<v Speaker 1>that even money over at points bet. Now, if you

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<v Speaker 1>want the free square, take over fifty yards at minus

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<v Speaker 1>two point fifty abstinente injury, that's gonna hit. He's sixty

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<v Speaker 1>seven yards receiving away from a one thousand rushing yard

0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:20.480
<v Speaker 1>one thousand receiving yards season. The coaching staff has already

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<v Speaker 1>come out and basically said he is going to get it.

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<v Speaker 1>That would only be the third time in history, joining

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<v Speaker 1>only Roger Craig and Marshall Fock. So look, it's possible

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<v Speaker 1>that his last reception gets him to seventy yards receiving

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<v Speaker 1>and he's pulled. That's fine, but I'd probably drop a

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<v Speaker 1>larger wager on going over the fifty yards, and I'd

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<v Speaker 1>add one on the seventy five yards, just to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>go for the bigger payout. But for me, I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's almost no chance with a team like the Panthers

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<v Speaker 1>that has nothing to play for it. There's also probably

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna be Dj Moore in this game. They want

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<v Speaker 1>McCaffrey to get over sixty seven yards, So I think

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<v Speaker 1>over fifty is a lock and over seventy five is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty close. All right, Sean, that's gonna do it for

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<v Speaker 1>today's show. Thanks for joining me. Remind everybody where they

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, as I mentioned, Sean is one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>again for coming on, Sean. Hopefully we can do it

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<v Speaker 1>again soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thanks for having me.

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