1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Time for our countdown to kickoff interviews for week fourteen, 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: JP Shadwick with you ahead of the Colts and Jaguars 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: in a battle for first place in the AFC South. 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: Let's start this week with Mike Dempsey's weekly conversation with 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: CBS Sports senior writer and our Jaguars happy our co 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 1: host Pete Frisco. 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 2: Well, I think part of the thing is is they've 8 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 2: been more physical, and when you're more physical at times, 9 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 2: that leads to victories. But the other part of that 10 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: is sometimes it gets in a team's head, like and 11 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: when it gets in the team's head and all they 12 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 2: hear all week leaning into a game is they haven't 13 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 2: won there since twenty fourteen. I mean, you take the 14 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 2: field knowing that, and it's a weird thing. In the NFL. 15 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 2: I've seen it happen over and over again. A team gets, 16 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: you know, inside another team's head and they have a 17 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: hard time getting out from underneath it. 18 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 3: All right, Well, Pete, looks like you know, in the 19 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 3: sloppy weather forecast for today may wet in the field 20 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 3: at times, and the Cults are a team that wants 21 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 3: to run the ball, but sore of the Jags does 22 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 3: weather play an advantage for either side. If it gets 23 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 3: a little bit nasty. 24 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: Today, well, I think ideally Jackson would like to throw 25 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: it a little bit more. We know, with Daniel Jones 26 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 2: being banged up, that's a problem for them, and he's 27 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: a little stationary, so they're the ideal scenario is to 28 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: run a lot of Jonathan Taylor. But I think when 29 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 2: you look at Jacksonville, they want to be able to 30 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 2: throw the ball. And I think Trevor Nx is coming 31 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: off one of his best games. So if it's rainy 32 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 2: and wet, I think that kind of plays to the 33 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 2: advantage of the Colts in that scenario. 34 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, and Jonathan Taylor is a big part of the 35 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 3: reason why they haven't had the success here. The jackson 36 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 3: have done a good job and that goes back to 37 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 3: your talking about being the more physical team. Jackson number 38 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 3: one in run defense, but you know that's circumstantial at times. 39 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor having a hell of the year. Who's got 40 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 3: the edge in that category today? 41 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: Well, and you mentioned the number one ranking and run defense, 42 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: and you got to get you know, I always say, 43 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: look deeper at the yards per carry and that's pretty 44 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: dark good too, So they've done a nice job, and 45 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: I give a lot of credit that de Von Hamilton. 46 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: He's been really good. You know what the Colts want 47 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 2: to do. It's just a matter of getting physical at 48 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: the point of attack. And that means all those guys 49 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: on the interior of the defense. That means the edge 50 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 2: guys have to set it and hold him from getting 51 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 2: off the big play. And when he gets into the 52 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 2: loop in the loose and he's going to you got 53 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: to tackle him so a five yard run doesn't turn 54 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 2: into a thirty five yard run. And I think that's 55 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: the key. I look, is there an advantage, No, but 56 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 2: I mean it's going to be hard to contain Jonathan Taylor. 57 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: The big advantage you have, though, is that Daniel Jones 58 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 2: can't move that well and we saw that last week. 59 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: He only ran the ball one time. And if he 60 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 2: can't move, that kind of limits what they do in 61 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: that read zone read game. 62 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and also you know, make some a stationary target 63 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: to some degree in the pocket. Josh Heinzellen's been getting 64 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 3: a ton of pressure lately. Does he need to have 65 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 3: a big game if the Jags are going to post 66 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 3: the w today? 67 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: And you know, Mike, if they if they choke off 68 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 2: the run, I think they can have a big day. 69 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 2: It's a good offensive line, it's not a great offensive line. 70 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: They played well. I think you've seen some overachievement there. 71 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 2: But you saw pressure last week from the Texans. Now 72 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: the Jaguars don't rush the rush the passer like the 73 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 2: Texans do, but I think there's an opportunity. But if 74 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: you get the run game going, that really slows down 75 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 2: the pass rush and that'll be a problem. That's why 76 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: Jonathan Tailor is the key to the entire thing. And amazingly, 77 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: they sometimes get away from him. We've seen that in 78 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 2: games where he doesn't get the carries he needs the 79 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: beginning and so take him away, you win the game. 80 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: Don't take him away, and you can have big problems, all. 81 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 3: Right for the Jaguars. They you know, haven't gotten eye 82 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 3: popping numbers out of Brian Thomas Junior obviously this year 83 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 3: peed he's on pace for well under one thousand yards. 84 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 3: He's only scored two touchdowns, one receiving, one rushing. But 85 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 3: he did come back and I thought gave a little 86 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 3: bit of a spark to the team last week. Very 87 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 3: impressed with his hustle on the fifty yard catch and 88 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 3: run by Jacoby Myers to get that downfield block. What 89 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 3: could betj be for this team over the final five 90 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 3: weeks of the season. 91 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: You know, you saw a lot of good things out 92 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: of him. It was just the block. I thought his 93 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: route running was better, and I thought he was crisper 94 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 2: and what he did he caught the football, he was 95 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: more precise. And the thing is, and I think Jacoby 96 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: Myers being there is a really good thing for him 97 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: because when you watch Kobe Marrier, he's a pro. And 98 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: when he's a pro, he knows how to run routes. 99 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: He knows how to sit down in his own And 100 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 2: it's one thing to have a guy like Tim Patrick 101 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: come in who's also a pro, but he doesn't do 102 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: a lot. Well, now you have a guy who's a 103 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: pro who is doing a lot, and I think that 104 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: kind of bleeds into the young receivers and into that 105 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: receiver room. So I think it was a step in 106 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 2: the right direction for Brian Thomas. Can they get him 107 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 2: go into what I thought he would be before the season, 108 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 2: Probably not, but he could be significantly better than what 109 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: he was before he was out of the lineup. 110 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 3: You mentioned Trevor Lawrence have played pretty well last week, Pete, 111 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 3: what do you expect from him over the final month plus. 112 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 2: I think there's a confidence thing going on with him, 113 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 2: and it starts with I think Myers. I mean Myers. 114 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 2: He knows where he's going to be. He knows he's 115 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 2: a professional, he knows he'll sit down, he knows he 116 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: knows how to get open. And I think that confidence 117 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 2: of throwing to him kind of has bled out a 118 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 2: little bit to the offense. Getting Strange back in the 119 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 2: offense helps too. And I think William Code did a 120 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 2: really good job of play calling last week, kind of 121 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: getting guy scheming guys open. On the touchdown pass to Strange, 122 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: you know, he had the tight end, the two tight 123 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 2: ends that together of the side and Marris ran to 124 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 2: the corner and he ran underneath it the to the 125 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: post for a touchdown. And I think he's done a 126 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 2: great job. So it's better. It's not quite, you know, 127 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 2: and I thought last week was one of his best games. 128 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: It's not quite driving the ball down the field on 129 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: a consistent basis. But you didn't need to do that 130 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 2: last week. Maybe this week you do. 131 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 3: All Right, here we go, Pete, Late on the line. 132 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 3: Who gets the W today? 133 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 2: I'm not breaking that streak. You kidding me. I think 134 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 2: Jacksonville gets to win. I think they're playing a physical 135 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: brand of football. You stop Jonathan to tail or, you 136 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 2: win the game, and I think they'll slow him enough 137 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: that they can win the game. That streak remains, they 138 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 2: win the football game. 139 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: Ryan Sexton caught up with Jaguars rookie defensive end Danny Strigo. 140 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 4: You think about it. We play a kid's game for 141 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 4: a profession, So what else can you do other than 142 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 4: go out there and have fun. That's the way I've 143 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 4: tried to play my entire college career and bring it 144 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 4: into the NFL. Obviously, you don't want to get, you know, 145 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 4: two outside yourself and turn into goofy, but you know, 146 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 4: just play with a smile on your face and go 147 00:05:58,120 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 4: out there and have some fun. 148 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 5: I'm sure you've asked your up this, but why didn't 149 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 5: you get drafted? I mean, how in the world with 150 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 5: the way that you're playing and the way that this 151 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 5: team views you. I asked that question and people just 152 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 5: shrug their shoulders. 153 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 6: I don't know. 154 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, at this point, I don't really think about it. 155 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 4: I knew coming into this year that all I needed 156 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 4: was an opportunity just to go out and you know, 157 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 4: prove what I can do, and you know, end up 158 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 4: having to do it a little bit of a harder way, 159 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 4: which you know, I'm grateful for because you know, it 160 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 4: makes you really appreciate, you know how much you've put 161 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 4: in to get here and you know, be able to 162 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 4: keep that mindset in order to keep going. 163 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 5: Tell me about the relationship with a guy in the 164 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 5: locker next to you. You and bj Green both made 165 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 5: the roster as undrafted rookie free agents, and you have 166 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 5: both made impact plays over the last month. 167 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 6: Did you feed off of each other? 168 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 7: Absolutely? Yeah. 169 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 4: We when we came into OTAs we grew close just 170 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 4: because you know, playing the same position and going through 171 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 4: the same things in similar scenarios and being able to 172 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 4: go through camp together and making the roster together. It 173 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 4: was huge and it's only brought us closer together, so 174 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 4: you know, be able to learn off each other and 175 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 4: have fun together and time together. It's been a blast. 176 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 8: Now. 177 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 5: The physical aspects of the game are obvious, but the 178 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 5: mental side of it. When you come into camp as 179 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 5: an undrafted rookie free agent, you have to have the 180 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 5: right mindset to be able to get through camp and 181 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 5: then to grow into the role that you've gotten. 182 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 6: What was yours and how did you develop it? 183 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's a day by day thing. If 184 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 4: you sit there at the beginning of camp and you 185 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 4: look like, oh, I've got you know, this many days 186 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 4: of camp and this long of a season, like you're 187 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 4: just gonna overwhelm yourself and everything's going to get super 188 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 4: stressful and you're going to stress yourself out, and that's 189 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 4: when you start to make mistakes. So if you come 190 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 4: into each day like, hey, this is a new day, 191 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 4: go out there, put my best on tape. Your tape 192 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 4: is your resume, So you're only as good as your 193 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 4: last play, and be able to wipe off the bad 194 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 4: plays and learn from them and then not spend too 195 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 4: much time on the good plays. You know that the 196 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 4: days I always thought of camp as the days go slow, 197 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 4: the week's go fast. So you might feel like the 198 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 4: day's getting pretty long, But then you look up and 199 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 4: you're like, oh, it's already the season. Preseason's over. Camp's over. Like, 200 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 4: let's get ready to go now. 201 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 6: So tell me about the room. 202 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 5: Right, You've got forty one forty four when you got 203 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 5: some established bets. How they pushed you, helped to challenge you. 204 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,559 Speaker 5: What have you gained from them? 205 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, that a lot of knowledge. I mean, these guys 206 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 4: have seen they've forgotten more about football than I've learned. 207 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 4: So being able to pick their brain and hear what 208 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 4: they have to say, how they view the game, how 209 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 4: they watch film, you know, how they attack their opponents 210 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 4: each and every week. Being able to pick up on things, 211 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 4: Hey I think that fits my skill set, or hey 212 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 4: I think this fits your skill set, you know, things 213 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 4: like that. Being able to learn from them and see 214 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 4: how they view it, it's helped a lot. 215 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 5: And the pass rush has really turned on the last 216 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 5: couple of weeks, and listening to other guys, it sounds 217 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 5: like it's been tweaked here and there. Anthony Campanili's is 218 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 5: a very creative guy. What's happened in the last couple of weeks. 219 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 5: You have to get the technical side of it, but 220 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 5: what's happened the last couple weeks for the pass rush 221 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 5: to really kick up? 222 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's nothing that's been out of body. 223 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 4: I think we've done a really great job of figuring 224 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 4: out during the week how to beat certain guys and 225 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 4: certain teams and really applying it in the game, not 226 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 4: necessarily doing an overhaul and changing a whole bunch of 227 00:08:58,880 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 4: x's and o's and scheme. 228 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 6: I think it's just the attention to. 229 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 4: Detail has really gone up throughout the past couple of 230 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 4: weeks as to how we're going to beat certain teams 231 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 4: and how to succeed against these teams. 232 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 5: Let's end on this. It's the Colts, right, They're eight 233 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 5: and four. You're eight and four, You're playing for the 234 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 5: division lead. It's a big game in December. We haven't 235 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 5: enough of those around here in recent years in Jacksonville. 236 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 6: People are excited. Do you feel that energy? 237 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 7: Absolutely? 238 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 4: You feel it each and each and every week we're home. 239 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 4: It doesn't matter you know who we're playing or you 240 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 4: know what the record is. You feel the fans every 241 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 4: single week. Obviously we know the magnitude of this game, 242 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 4: but you know it's just the next game. You know, 243 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 4: you got to go out there and perform, just like 244 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 4: you're playing any other team in the league. 245 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: I caught up with the voice of the Indianapolis Colts, 246 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: Matt Taylor, this week, and there's plenty to dig into 247 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: between Division rivals. It is Week fourteen. First place in 248 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: the AFC South on the line, the Indianapolis Colts and 249 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars. The voice of the Colts, Matt Taylor, 250 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: joining us. Hey, December football, here we are. 251 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 8: It's big, no question about it. Yeah you mentioned it. 252 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 9: You got two eight and four teams, but it's kind 253 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 9: of like two different types of eight and four. You 254 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 9: have a surging eight and four, then you know, for 255 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 9: lack of a better term, you've got a stumbling eight 256 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 9: and four team. And not that long ago, JP, the 257 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 9: Colts were very much in the driver's seat seven and one, 258 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 9: and you know, a big dramatic win and overtime in 259 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 9: Berlin right before the bye, and then at that point 260 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 9: they're eight and two and in first place still not 261 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 9: only in the division but in the conference as well 262 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 9: in the AFC. But you know, teams keep on winning, 263 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 9: and unfortunately here for the Colts, they've kind of stubbed 264 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 9: their toe a little bit. They've lost back to back 265 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 9: games for the first time this season, and they've lost 266 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 9: three of their last four. So I think this is 267 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 9: the first time all year that you can say they've 268 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 9: hit some major adversity, kind of a crossroads. With five 269 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 9: games to go, we're gonna find out who they really 270 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 9: are and what they're really made of. With again, five 271 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 9: games to play, but three of those games inside the division, 272 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 9: two of them against the Jaguars, one against Houston. Still 273 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 9: and you know, all three of those teams, Colts, Jaguars, 274 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 9: Texans still very much in control of their own destiny. 275 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 9: So you know, if you're Roger Gordell in the NFL, 276 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 9: this is exactly what you want. You want a lot 277 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 9: of parody, you want a lot of fan bases still 278 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 9: and it's still interested late in the season. 279 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like it's anybody's game around the league. 280 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: Not there's not really a powerful team overall in the 281 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 1: NFL this year. Number one rusher Jonathan Taylor against the 282 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: number one rushing defense. 283 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:24,239 Speaker 7: For the Jaguars. 284 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 1: That's the matchup of this week from the Colt's perspective. 285 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: And Jonathan Taylor, is this his best season so far? 286 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: He's had some big ones in his past? Yeah, where 287 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: does this one compare? You know? I think it is. 288 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 9: And the reason why you know, I favor this season 289 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 9: over other seasons because he has a complimentary piece in 290 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 9: Daniel Jones, right, and not that he didn't have, you know, 291 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 9: at times complimentary pieces in the past with guys like 292 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 9: you know, you know, Carson Wentz and Gardner Minshew. But 293 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 9: I just think the consistency this year Daniel Jones has 294 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 9: really separated this season for Taylor over others. And you 295 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 9: know Taylor in the past, he's had mega years before, 296 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 9: as you know JP. I mean, he was the NFL's 297 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 9: leading rusher. You know, he's the rushing champ in twenty 298 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 9: twenty one, over eighteen hundred yards that year two years ago, 299 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 9: or I should say last year in twenty twenty four, 300 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 9: he was over fourteen hundred yards. But in neither of 301 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 9: those seasons did the Colts make the playoffs, Right, So 302 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 9: it can't be all about Jonathan Taylor. It can't be 303 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 9: all about the running game. And I think that's where 304 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 9: this season is a little bit different because the Colts 305 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 9: aren't all about Jonathan Taylor, even though he's having a 306 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 9: great individual statistical season. They have Daniel Jones to compliment him. 307 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 9: In the passing game, right, the Colts have you know, 308 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 9: three pass catchers right around seven hundred yards. You know, 309 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 9: most teams would kill for that, right. The production they're 310 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 9: getting from Pittman and Pierce and Tyler Warren who's a 311 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 9: rookie tight end. So they're they're they're a little bit 312 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 9: more a verse on offense this year, and I think 313 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 9: that's helping Jonathan Taylor because in years past we get 314 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 9: late in the season. And I'm not saying it hasn't 315 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 9: happened at times this season, but normally you'd get to 316 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 9: this point in the season and teams would have, you know, 317 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 9: the book on the Colts and plenty of tape, and 318 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 9: they'd say, all right, we got to stack the box 319 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 9: load up to stop Jonathan Taylor and make other people 320 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 9: beat us, And unfortunately for the Colts, it would kind 321 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 9: of routinely work. You know, this year. Bigger picture, the 322 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 9: box has lightened up a little bit. The defense is 323 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 9: a little bit more spread out across the width of 324 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 9: the field, which is helping Jonathan Taylor rip off bigger 325 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 9: runs and become more efficient, which is helping his individual 326 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 9: statistical season be a big one so far. 327 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 1: Matt Taylor, Voice of the Colts with us, how concerning 328 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: is the Daniel Jones leg injury and how could that 329 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: limit him? 330 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 9: You know, so far it hasn't played a huge factor 331 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 9: I think it's it's popped up in subtle areas, and 332 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 9: I think the biggest one is it's his scrambling. I 333 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 9: think he'll has you know you go by. I mentioned 334 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 9: that Berlin game right before the bye. In that game, 335 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 9: him scrambling out of the pocket was a big reason 336 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 9: why they won that game. He had six scrambles about 337 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 9: fifty yards rushing. But they faced a third and nineteen 338 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 9: in that game. Excuse me, a third and twenty one. 339 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 9: I beg your pardon. He picked up nineteen yards to 340 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 9: get him in a very favorable fourth and two, which 341 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 9: they went on to convert and then went on to 342 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 9: win the game. In the last two games, he's only 343 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 9: scrambled to combine two times, and there was an instance 344 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 9: last week where the Colts had a fourth and one 345 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 9: at the Texans nine yard line. The second quarter was 346 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 9: kind of kind of a deceptively big part of the 347 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 9: game with it being that early in the game and 348 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 9: the Colts, instead of putting Daniel Jones under center to 349 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 9: run a quarterback sneak, which he's been very effective doing 350 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 9: this year, they motioned in Tyler Warren and they got 351 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 9: kind of cute with it. They motioned them in and 352 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 9: then he dipped under center and took a tight end 353 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 9: sneak if you will, didn't handle the snap and it 354 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 9: was kind of muffled and the Colts had to turn 355 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 9: it over on down. So you know, there's a couple 356 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 9: of little instances here and there where you know his 357 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 9: mobility is being called into question. They really haven't drawn 358 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 9: up a ton of design runs for him this year, 359 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 9: which is kind of curious a little bit to me 360 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 9: going into the season because we saw that obviously a 361 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 9: lot last year within the aesthetics of the offense with 362 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 9: Anthony Richardson. Obviously, Richardson's a different animal when it comes 363 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 9: to just overall sheer athleticism than Daniel Jones. But it's 364 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 9: not like Daniel Jones the statue, right, It's not like 365 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 9: he's Gardner Minshew or Joe Flacco who the Colts have 366 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 9: used at quarterback in the last couple of years. But 367 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 9: you know, they really haven't run him a lot, you know, 368 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 9: in the design running game, so that really is not 369 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 9: all that different, I would say. Just the biggest difference 370 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 9: is just him looking to get outside the pocket, them 371 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 9: calling design bootlegs for him to roll out of the pocket. 372 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 9: They really haven't seen a whole lot of that in 373 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 9: the last couple of weeks since that sibular injury came 374 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 9: to light. 375 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: Matt, what's the bigger loss on defense, DeForest Buckner or 376 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner. 377 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 9: That's a great question. I think you're probably splitting hairs. 378 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 9: But if I have to pick one, it's probably beforest Buckner. 379 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 9: I mean, he just means so much to that defense, 380 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 9: and you know, believe it or not, the Colts. It's 381 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 9: kind of a little bit of a deceptive stat but 382 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 9: the Colts ranked fifth this year in team sacks, fifth 383 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 9: in the NFL and team sacks with thirty five. But 384 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 9: they are a very diverse They have a very diverse 385 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 9: pass rush. It's kind of democratic. They play a lot 386 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 9: of guys. I think they have nine guys with at 387 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 9: least two sacks, So they don't have like that stud right, 388 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 9: they don't have a will and Anderson or Daniel Hunter, 389 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 9: or in the case of the Jaguars, you know a 390 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 9: Josh heinz Allen, a guy that's gonna go out there 391 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 9: and get you annually ten to twelve sacks. You know, 392 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 9: they've got good edge rushers, guys like Quitty pay and Samson, 393 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 9: Abacom Latu lat is still coming along. But I would 394 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 9: say their best pass rusher overall is their defensive tackle 395 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 9: into Forest Buckner. He is just the most disruptive guy 396 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 9: they have on that defensive line, regardless of position, and 397 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 9: so missing him the last couple of games has mental lots. 398 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 9: You know, it's again too you kind of have to 399 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 9: look at the minutia of this Colts defense. The point 400 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 9: total they've given up the last two games has been 401 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 9: pretty good, pretty respectable, you know, twenty three points in 402 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 9: an overtime loss to the Chiefs, twenty points last week 403 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 9: to the Houston Texans JP as. You know, those are 404 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 9: very winnable numbers in the NFL. Right, you hold a 405 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 9: team to around twenty points, you should have a pretty 406 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 9: good chance of winning. They're doing a really good job 407 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 9: of holding teams down inside the red zone, but they 408 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 9: missed the Forrest Buckner in the sense of his ability 409 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 9: to make plays on first and second down put teams 410 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 9: in third and long, and that's been the killer for 411 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 9: the Colts as they've given up a lot of time 412 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 9: of possession in the last two games. I think the 413 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 9: Texans and Chiefs have ball controlled the Colts to the 414 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,719 Speaker 9: tune of over seventy seven minutes the time of possession combined. 415 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 9: So again, the point total is good. But when your 416 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 9: defense is on the field for a long time and 417 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 9: they're giving up big plays and then meanwhile the Colts 418 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 9: offense is over there on the sideline just chilling, waiting 419 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 9: to get back into the game, that's a bad recipe. 420 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 9: So that's where I think they really missed. The Forrest 421 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 9: Buckner is his game changing ability on first and second 422 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 9: down to play the run, and he's also their best 423 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 9: pass rusher on third down getting after the quarterback. 424 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: All Right, Matt Taylor, Voice of the Colts, with his 425 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: last one here. The last time the Colts won a 426 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: road game against the Jaguars was twenty fourteen. It was 427 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 1: Gus Bradley's second year as the Jaguars head coach. There 428 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: have been a few head coaches between then and now. 429 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: For the Jags has been another story. What is that 430 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: Is that discussed there? I mean, do you like coming 431 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: to Jacksonville anymore? What's the feel? 432 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 9: Oh? It is discussed? And I think the mission this year. 433 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,239 Speaker 9: I know you didn't ask me this question, but the 434 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 9: mission this year within the fan base was to stop 435 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 9: talking about two horrible streaks this year. The first one, 436 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 9: which was eradicated was the opening game of the season. 437 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 9: The Colts prior to this year hadn't won a Week 438 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 9: one game since twenty thirteen, which is equally as inexplicable 439 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 9: as the Jaguars dominance over the Colts at EverBank Stadium. Yeah, 440 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 9: you mentioned all the changeover and the different head coaches 441 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 9: for the Jaguars in that time. I mean, let's do 442 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 9: a trivia question on how many Colts quarterbacks have lost 443 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 9: in Jacksonville since twenty fourteen? 444 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 4: Right. 445 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 9: I don't know if you have a trivia question that sponsored, 446 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 9: but there you go. I just laid it up on 447 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 9: a tee for you. But it's really, like I said, 448 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 9: it's inexplicable. And you know, as you know, I mean, 449 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 9: some of these losses for the Colts have been to 450 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 9: some sub par Jacksonville teams. You know, the most devastating 451 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 9: loss in that series was the twenty twenty one regular 452 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 9: season finale where the Colts all they had to do 453 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 9: was win against I think like a two or three 454 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 9: win Jacksonville team and they would have made the playoffs 455 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 9: and obviously couldn't get it. Done, and that kind of 456 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 9: set the franchise back and they moved on from Carson 457 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 9: wins after that game and all these different things that 458 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 9: we don't need to get into, but I think the 459 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 9: biggest common denominator in these losses for the Colts have 460 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 9: been Jacksonville's ability historically at home to control the line 461 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 9: of scrimmage against the Colts and the Colts turnover margin. 462 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 9: I went back and I looked it up this week 463 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 9: just to refresh myself, but the Colts are minus thirteen 464 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 9: in the turnover margin in these nine consecutive losses to 465 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 9: the Jaguars at EverBank Stadium. So you really don't have 466 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 9: to be a football savant to understand why the Colts 467 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 9: have come up short down there is because they don't 468 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 9: take good care of the football. And you mentioned Jonathan Taylor. Historically, 469 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 9: he hasn't had really big games against the Jaguars on 470 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 9: the road either, So I think, you know, those two things, 471 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 9: getting him going to the running game and taking good 472 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 9: care of the football is going to be paramount for 473 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 9: the Colts. 474 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: Matt Taylor, Voice of the Colts, always the best and 475 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing the Colts here in Jacksonville again. 476 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: We always are. 477 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 8: I bet you are. 478 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: I bet you are. 479 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 9: Hopefully we'll see what happens. 480 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 8: Just go around. 481 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 9: It's always fun. 482 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,959 Speaker 1: Brian Sexton also caught up with Jags defensive coordinator Anthony 483 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: Campanelli as they look for a way to stop Colts 484 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:17,959 Speaker 1: running back Jonathan Taylor. 485 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 10: I think everybody's got to do a great job doing 486 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 10: there one eleventh. You know, as cliche as that sounds, 487 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 10: but you got to play square against a guy like that, 488 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 10: you know, I think when you're you look at his 489 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 10: big runs over the course not only the season, but 490 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 10: his career. So many of those players are guys not 491 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 10: being patient with their eyes in the gap or trying 492 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 10: to do a little bit too much. You know, we're 493 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 10: not being that disciplined at the line of scrimmage. So 494 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 10: it takes all eleven, honestly, you know, a guy like 495 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 10: that is going to make sure if you're not running. 496 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 8: To the ball, you're gonna pay. 497 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 10: So you got to really have a team tackling mentality, 498 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 10: and that it's everybody who is involved in stopping and 499 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 10: run against a guy like this. 500 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 8: That question. 501 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 5: I look at that eighty three yard touchdown in the 502 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 5: fourth quarter against the Falcons in Berlin. It looked like 503 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 5: he was down and he wasn't, so getting into the 504 00:21:58,680 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 5: ground would seem to be the key. 505 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:01,719 Speaker 8: Yeah, that's a huge part of it. 506 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 10: He's a really patient runner, you know, and he really 507 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 10: does a good job. It's almost like you got water 508 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 10: in the basement. You know it's going to find a 509 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 10: crack in there, so it comes up and comes out 510 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 10: of there. If you don't do a great job tearing 511 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 10: off the blocks, if you stay blocked against a guy 512 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 10: like this, you're going to have a hard time. But 513 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 10: the reality is their offensive line does a great job finishing, 514 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 10: so a lot of those long runs are usually also 515 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 10: the by product of their offensive line staying engaged in 516 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 10: finishing blocks. 517 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 5: What do you like about your run defense? I could 518 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 5: point out it's number one in the NFL, but you've 519 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 5: been very consistent. One guy's got more than sixty yards 520 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 5: against you this year. What have you done well that 521 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 5: sets you up to have a good Sunday afternoon. 522 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 10: I think we just got a lot of good coaches 523 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 10: here on this staff, to be honest with you. You know, 524 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 10: our linebacker coach Tim Luca, but I think he's done 525 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 10: a great job. I think Matt Edwards and Derek LeBlanc 526 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 10: have done a great job with the front especially, and 527 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 10: I think our defensive backs coaches are totally bought into 528 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 10: everybody being part of the run defense and everybody stopping 529 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 10: the run together. 530 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 8: It's a collective. 531 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 10: We meet as a unit a lot, and I appreciate 532 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 10: everybody doing that, putting the time. 533 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 8: Into that every day. 534 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 10: I think the guys, it really it comes down to 535 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 10: guys being self less, you know, and not being selfish. 536 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 10: We got guys who were playing the run, trying to 537 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 10: do their job and you know, all the while trying 538 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 10: to rush the passers. So I think our defensive line 539 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 10: has done a really good job playing square, playing with 540 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 10: fundamentals and trying to get better at it each week. 541 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 5: And both sides of the ball, not just the defense, 542 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 5: but adjusted to guys being out in last week, you 543 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,719 Speaker 5: didn't have Eric Armstead, You've been playing without Trayvon Walker. 544 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 5: How have you gotten that group to play at a 545 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 5: different level, perhaps with guys like bj Green and Danny Strigout. 546 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 10: I think that just speaks to the people more, the 547 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 10: type of guys that they are. They're like such hard 548 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 10: charging kids, They're just they're great guys to coach. They 549 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 10: care about this team, they care about the other guys 550 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 10: in the room. They don't want to let guys down, 551 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 10: and when they get their opportunity, they're playing hard as hell. 552 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 10: So that's why they're here, you know, that's why they 553 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 10: made the team. We felt like they were those type 554 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 10: of guys and when they had the opportunity to play, 555 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 10: they would go out there and show out out and 556 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 10: show everybody, you know, the type of guy to wear 557 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 10: and how they were raised and all that stuff. So 558 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 10: they bring that out in the field with them and 559 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 10: they've been playing with a lot of pride, so proud 560 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 10: of that. 561 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: You know. 562 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 5: We talk a lot about the talent, you know, Josh 563 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 5: Heinz Allen and Trayvon Walker, but it's also about the 564 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 5: team and that's it's a difficult thing to get to 565 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 5: build that sort of culture in the team room, but 566 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 5: you've got it with this team right now. 567 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 6: They all seem to have bought in. Do you feel 568 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 6: that I do. 569 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 10: I think that's a credit to Liam, you know, just 570 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 10: hammering that message every day. You know that we're not 571 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 10: going to accept anything but your best, and it's about 572 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 10: the guy next to you. And I think a lot 573 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 10: of times in pro ball that can get lost that 574 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 10: hasn't been lost here. It's a little bit more of 575 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 10: a high school locker room where guys genuinely care about 576 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 10: each other. They're trying to play their asshole for each other, 577 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 10: trying to give us our best effort every day or 578 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 10: their best effort every day at practice, in the meetings, everything, 579 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 10: you know, And I know some of that sounds cliche, 580 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 10: but but that's real. 581 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 8: I've been able to experience experience that every day with 582 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 8: these guys. 583 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 7: Well. 584 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 5: But it's not just the front too. I mean, Jari 585 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 5: and Jones steps in, Monterrek Brown's back, the back end 586 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 5: now gets Jordan Lewis back, and you've got Eric Murray 587 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 5: who could be back for you this week. 588 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 6: How much would it mean to have everybody together. 589 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 10: I think it would mean a lot to get everybody back, 590 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 10: but I think there's always a sober lining and the 591 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 10: benefit that we have going down the stretches all these 592 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 10: guys have played. Obviously, we wanted to have everybody out 593 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 10: there the whole year, but in the NFL that's not 594 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 10: always possible, and the older guys have done a great 595 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 10: job of getting the younger guys ready to you know, 596 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 10: they've been there, studying with them every step of the way, 597 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 10: you know, helping those guys develop, and not really shutting 598 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 10: them out from information, but including them in everything and 599 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 10: helping those guys become better players. So when they had 600 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 10: their opportunity to get out there, we were able to 601 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 10: have success because you know, that's that kind. 602 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 8: Of speaks to what I was saying before. 603 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 10: They all genuinely care about each other and want to 604 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 10: see each other do well, and I think that was 605 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 10: a big part of why we were able to have 606 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 10: success through that stretch where guys were injured. 607 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 5: By a final thought, Daniel Jones, the quarterback, had one 608 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 5: of those guys who's found a resurgence in his career. 609 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 5: He's battling with an injury now, but how dangerous is 610 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 5: he from the pocket? 611 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 8: He's super dangerous. I think he's a great thrower. 612 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 10: Coached against him a couple other times when I was 613 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 10: in Miami. Just watching him over the years, I've always 614 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 10: felt he's a really accurate thrower. The one thing he 615 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 10: is he's a really tough kid. He's a tough guy, 616 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 10: I should say, you know, and watching him throughout his career, 617 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 10: he'll hang in there. Now, you know, there's guys at 618 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 10: his feet up around him when he's throwing the football. 619 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 8: He's still throwing it really, really accurately. 620 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 10: He's probably having the best year statistically of his career, 621 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 10: but yeah, he's he definitely presents some issues in the 622 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 10: pocket for sure. 623 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 5: I know it's just the next game on the schedule, 624 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 5: but it's a big one for folks here in North Florida. 625 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 5: Kind of feels that, doesn't it. 626 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 8: Absolutely, it's a huge game. 627 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 10: You know, we understand that, and obviously it's those are 628 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 10: the stakes are high every week. 629 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 8: But we're excited division game, you know. 630 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 10: I think the guy's attention to detail has been great 631 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 10: these last few weeks and down the stretch, really the 632 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 10: entirety of the season, and you do all that work 633 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 10: to get in to this point, you know, for these 634 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 10: big games here at the end. 635 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: And finally, our weekly conversation with Pride to the Jaguars 636 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: running back Fred Taylor, Fred is pretty simple this week 637 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: Colts Jaguars, both teams eight and four, first place on 638 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: the line. Don't get much bigger in the regular season. 639 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 7: Coach Tweak, can I stuwit up? 640 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 11: I mean, I might got a few carries left for 641 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 11: me I know the formula, I think, and I think 642 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 11: it applies to this particular matchup. Run the ball, man, 643 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 11: You gotta run the ball. Take a pay for me 644 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 11: and Mojo. Same old coats, good record, very competitive group, 645 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 11: get after their quarterback a bit. Stop the run, run 646 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 11: the ball, stop the run is the formula, but it's 647 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 11: coach tweak man. I don't believe I've had a bigger 648 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 11: smile on my face for a matchup this season than 649 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 11: this one so much as Steak just a great environment. 650 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 11: I believe it's gonna take place in and that we 651 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 11: act Duvall County early. 652 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 7: In the week to show up. 653 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 11: I believe they are and they're gonna be the de 654 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 11: term help be the deciding factor. 655 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 7: Jaguars getting his win and you. 656 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: Know what, the Jaguars earned this spotlight, right. I mean, 657 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: they've won four out of five since by week. They 658 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: found different ways to do It hasn't been pretty, but 659 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: it's been gritty and they're right there. As Liam Cohen said, 660 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: they're not gonna apologize for wins around here. 661 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 7: Oh as you should. 662 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 11: You shouldn't have to apologize for winning, and you shouldn't 663 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 11: have to apologize for losing. I mean those things happen. 664 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 11: It comes with the territory. I hear you learn from losing, right, 665 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 11: supposed to learn from your losses. And you go back 666 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 11: to two of the losses they should have won, and 667 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 11: two of the losses here you know they really didn't 668 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 11: stand a chance of winning. But they were able to 669 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 11: learn from those games, and I think they know what 670 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 11: their identity is. We have to run the football, We 671 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 11: have to protect the quarterback. The quarterback has to utilize 672 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 11: his legs to get up out of get them out 673 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 11: of certain situations. The defense has to continue to play 674 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 11: ben but don't break. They also any pressure from time 675 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 11: to time, and they should be hungrier this week, knowing 676 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 11: the opposing quarterback has some sort of you know, crack 677 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 11: bones or broken bones, whatever the reports have been. 678 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 7: He's banged up. Get after him, bang him up some more, 679 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 7: walk away with a win. 680 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: Fred Taylor with us or you mentioned you wanted to 681 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: shoot up, but unfortunately the only Taylor wearing twenty eight 682 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: is going to be on the other side today. Jonathan Taylor, 683 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: the number one rusher of the National Football League. Give 684 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: us a scouting report. What do you like about him? 685 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 11: Everything? I mean, that's the simple answer. Everything we text yesterday. 686 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 11: I told him I'll meet him on the field Sunday, 687 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 11: you know, just to chop it up with him. 688 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 7: Man. 689 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 11: I've kept in touch over the years, even in his 690 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 11: down times when he was going through his injuries, and 691 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,719 Speaker 11: we've become pretty good friends. So you know, he's an 692 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 11: amazing player. I love seeing him run down the field 693 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 11: that Taylor twenty eight. It just marries up perfectly to 694 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 11: who I used to be as a player. I think 695 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 11: we have some similarities in our game. I believe I 696 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 11: was a bit faster, but he has to shiftingness, the 697 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 11: jump cut ability, he can run you over, he can 698 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 11: make you miss, and he can't get missing. I was 699 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 11: just a tad bit faster, and he does so much 700 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 11: in their game. He has tremendous hands and it goes 701 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 11: through him. You know, if you can slow him down, 702 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 11: the coach will struggle. But twelve games in he's eighteen 703 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 11: yards shy of thirteen hundred yards, so he's averaging well 704 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 11: over one hundred yards per game. 705 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 7: And if you give him a crack, you're gonna regret it. 706 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 11: So you gotta make sure everybody's in their gap, playing 707 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 11: gap integrity, playing great discipline football on the backside. 708 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 7: It's a lot when it comes to him. 709 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 11: So he's gonna test their discipline and they're gonna have 710 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 11: to be ready for the challenge. 711 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: Fred Taylor with US the Jaguars defense is number one 712 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: in the NFL against the run, which is positive. That'll 713 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: be tested certainly this week. But they've done some things 714 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: here with some injuries recently. Eric Armstead didn't play last week, 715 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker didn't play. They might get Eric Murray back 716 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: this week. So the positive thing that at least we 717 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: think most of these injuries are not season ending, So 718 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: in theory they're gonna get more guys back as the 719 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: weeks go along here, and that gives you some real 720 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: hope down the stretch here in December. 721 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 11: Yeah, it does give you a hope, a lot of 722 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 11: optimism there knowing that you can get some of these 723 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 11: guys that were starters earlier in the season back. Having 724 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 11: starts back, the communications should be faster, you know, the 725 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 11: familiarity should be there, and the confidence amongst the players 726 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 11: you know should be there when you look to your 727 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 11: right or you left knowing that these guys you can 728 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 11: depend on and you could trust. But at the same time, 729 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 11: JP I've also been a part of teams where you 730 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 11: want to have certain guys back, but if the momentum 731 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 11: is there and the guys that are out there playing well, 732 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 11: you don't want to lose that chemistry either. So it 733 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 11: comes down to the coach's decisions on which guys they're 734 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 11: gonna have out there. But the good thing is two 735 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 11: is better than one, right, Having multiple guys that can 736 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 11: get the job done is always better because injuries happen, 737 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,719 Speaker 11: and they happen at you know, different points throughout the 738 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 11: course of the game. So you know, have not that 739 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 11: guys back going to be good for the Jaguars. But 740 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 11: I question whether the momentum, you know, in the chemistry 741 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 11: with the guys that have been out there throughout these 742 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 11: past weeks, will that be effected is always the question. 743 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're getting contributions from some undrafted players and some 744 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: deep down the depth chart, which is great to see. 745 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: Let's finish with this today, Fred, I'm sure you see 746 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: the postgame locker room videos from Liam Cohen, right, how 747 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: would you have loved to play for Liam? And what 748 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: do you think about the energy that he has brought 749 00:32:58,480 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: to this team? 750 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 11: You know, I love the energy just to answer that 751 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 11: first and foremost. I think you're supposed to get that 752 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 11: from a younger coach, right. I can't see coach Coughlin 753 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 11: bopping around, you know, in there. And even Jack when 754 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 11: I played for Jack there, he was a bit older, right, 755 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 11: younger than coach Coughlin, but. 756 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 7: Older than Liam. You know, Liam is hip. 757 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 11: He knows all of the slang and you know, all 758 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 11: this hip hop stuff and he fits that group man. 759 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 11: And I think the one asset that he brings to 760 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 11: the table is he's black and white. Black and white, 761 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 11: you know, there's no gray when it comes to Liam. 762 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 11: He what you see is what you get, And I 763 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 11: love that from coaches that I've played with in the past. 764 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 11: You respond better, you get a better response from from players. 765 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 11: But more than anything, he's steady. You know, he's consistent, 766 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 11: and you have to be that way otherwise you'll lose 767 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 11: the players, you'll lose the leadership, and you lose the 768 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 11: locker room. And that's the one thing as a coach 769 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 11: you have to be able to avoid. So he's been 770 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 11: tested in their losses, he's been steady. He's been tested 771 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 11: in their wins. He's been steady, and I think that's 772 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 11: the one thing that I respected and admired most about Liam, 773 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 11: even in our conversations, he's, you know, the same guy. 774 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 11: He doesn't switch up on you. So starting there, man, 775 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 11: they got a shot with him so and he has 776 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 11: my full support. 777 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: And they've got shot down the stretch, they control their 778 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: own destiny for the division and beyond five games to 779 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: go to against the Colts, here we go. Fred December football. 780 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 11: December football, man. This is when you separate yourself. Run 781 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 11: the ball, stop the run. I believe it was around December. 782 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 11: It was early December when we broke those records against 783 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 11: the Colts. Hopefully these guys can break those records and 784 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 11: I know that'll be a guaranteed w if they do. 785 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: Thank you, Breed, we'll talk to you the post game. 786 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 7: All r JP always good tappling upwards. 787 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: Colts Jaguars Week fourteen, Both teams eight and four, first 788 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 1: place on the line in the AFC South. Enjoy the game.