1 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth podcast. The Here We Go Again addition, 3 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: as we look ahead to Sunday's season opener in Seattle, 4 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: and yes, I know the White Snake song is Here 5 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: I Go again, But here we Go Again fit the 6 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: opening week theme coming up. Approximately twenty one minutes of 7 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: Dave Lapham Podcast Gold. I am so lucky to work 8 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: with the guy because there's nobody better in the NFL 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: at covering a team. Lap is knowledgeable, he is smart, 10 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: he is funny, and he is definitely one of the 11 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: world's great storytellers. Will hit all of the important topics 12 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: going into the season opener every year. In Week one, 13 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton is kind enough to join me for a 14 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: one on one interview. We'll discuss what it's like to 15 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: play for a head coach who is only four and 16 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: a half years older than he is, and I'll ask 17 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: Andy to do something that he doesn't like to do. No, 18 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: I didn't ask him to cuss. It's something else he 19 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: doesn't like to do. And in this week's No the 20 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: Faux segment, we'll get the scoop on the Seahawks from 21 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: their longtime radio voice former wide receiver Steve Rabel. All 22 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: of that is straight ahead. But first, here's a quick 23 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: reminder that you can have the latest edition of this 24 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: podcast delivered right to your phone, tablet, or computer by 25 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 1: subscribing on iTunes, Stitcher, Google Play, Spotify, or pod Bean. 26 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: It's the greatest invention since Triple A. No, not the 27 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: top level of Minor League Baseball, although that's great too, 28 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the American Automobile Association. On Wednesday night, 29 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 1: when I had a billion things to do, including putting 30 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: together this podcast, my car wouldn't start in downtown Cincinnati. 31 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: So I pulled the Triple A card out of my wallet, 32 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: called the Trusty toll free number, and it didn't take 33 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: long for a gentleman named Mark to come to the rescue. 34 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: It turned out I had a dead battery, and Marty 35 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: replaced it in no time. I have been a Triple 36 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: A member forever and I can't even count the number 37 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: of times it's paid off. Now let's get to football. 38 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: For the first time in seventeen years, the Bengals will 39 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: have a new head coach on Sunday, as Zach Taylor 40 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: makes his official debut. He's thirty six years old, making 41 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: Zach the second youngest current head coach in the NFL, 42 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: behind his former boss Sean McVay of the Rams, who 43 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: is still only thirty three. For what it's worth, Paul 44 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: Brown coached his first pro football game in Cleveland at 45 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: the age of thirty seven. It was actually the day 46 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: before his thirty eighth birthday. Dave Lapham played for Paul Brown, 47 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: and this Sunday he begins his thirty fourth year in 48 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: the Bengals broadcast booth. We start this week's discussion by 49 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: looking at the makeup of the Bengals fifty three man 50 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: roster and surprises, in your opinion, not anything huge, Dan. 51 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I remember we were talking on a podcast 52 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: and said, you know, based on what I'm seeing, eleven 53 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: defensive linemen deserve to make the team and only four linebackers, 54 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: and that's kind of the way it shook down. I'm 55 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: not shocked by that, particularly as fewer times you have 56 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: three linebackers on the field in today's NFL seventy five 57 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: eighty percent of the time, most teams are in three 58 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: receiver formations are on war So it doesn't really surprise 59 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: me all that much with that configuration. You know, John 60 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: Jerry was the Michael George Johnson of this football team. Agreed, 61 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: you know, to go ahead and get way of come 62 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: back and then they put Duga on the IR, which 63 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: IR recall they can do now after the fifty three months. 64 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: So if they need a guy at tackle later in 65 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: the season, that doesn't surprise me at all. SOMJ. P Ryan, 66 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: I think is a very good pickup. It's the Sooner 67 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: Sooner East, I guess. I mean running back rooms the 68 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: same as when they're in college, mix and Anderson and 69 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: p Ryan. Anderson rehabbing from the knee surgery obviously, but 70 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: Samaj p Ryan played all four special teams for the Redskins, 71 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: So Darren Simmons is happy about that that he's going 72 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: to have, you know, an option there. I'm not sure 73 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: how much of the offense p run will have you know, 74 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: a grasp of, but special teams wise, I think he's 75 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: going to be a factor in that opening day, you know, 76 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: as the third running back for sure. Let's talk about 77 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: the Bengals offense. They hired Zach Taylor in large part 78 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 1: for his ability to bring the Rams offense to Cincinnati. 79 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: During the preseason, they kept it extremely vanilla. How much 80 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: different is it going to be on Sunday. I think 81 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: it will be a lot different. I think there'll be, 82 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: you know, tweaks to formations, tweaks to blocking patterns. I 83 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: didn't see very sophisticated blocking patterns up front in the 84 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: run game or protection wise, so I think they've kept 85 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,679 Speaker 1: a lot close to the vest, which is really smart 86 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: to do. I remember after the first preseason game, coach 87 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: and Rumo told me that Andy Reid came up and said, 88 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: you guys are a pain in the neck to try 89 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: to prepare for. We didn't know what to look at. 90 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: We look at giants, we look at dolphins. What are 91 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: we look at? And then you didn't do anything. So 92 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: that's their advantage. It's going to be the same thing 93 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: for Pete Carroll offensively, what does he look at With 94 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: Zach he says, you look at the dolphin as you 95 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: look at the Rams. Obviously he's going to be a 96 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: lot of Rams influence, but he's got other influences along 97 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: the way. Same with lou and Rumo. You know, it's 98 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: like I don't know exactly what they're going to do 99 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: until they spring it. And this is the only time 100 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: they'll have that advantage that there's no tape on them, 101 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: So they did a pretty good job of keeping things 102 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: under wraps. The other I guess the flip side to 103 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: that coin is the only time they've been working on 104 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: it so far, and they've got this week of practice, 105 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: but is in walkthroughs when nobody's around to see what's 106 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: going on. So they really haven't gone and you know, 107 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: practiced it against anybody. So will they be insane? Will 108 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: they be you know in cohesion? Will they be meshed up? 109 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: Because sometimes if you put too much in, you know, 110 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: you can hurt yourself. So there's that delicate balance. You know, 111 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: how cute do you want to be? And you know, 112 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: can it hurt us more than it fools them? And 113 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: ultimately you just gotta go out. Like Paul Brown said, 114 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: you know we can trick them. I get tired of 115 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: tricking them. Just go out and block and tackle people. 116 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: Will you go win a football game? That's what it 117 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: boils down to. Lap Over the last two years with 118 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor on the Rams coaching staff, Todd Gurley averaged 119 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 1: nearly thirteen hundred yards rushing, seven hundred yards receiving, and 120 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: twenty touchdowns. Those were his averages, not his two year totals. 121 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: Do you expect Joe Mixon to approach those numbers in 122 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor's offense? I think, more importantly Joe expects it. 123 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: I do, and I think Joe does. I mean the 124 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: thing that he talked about just the other day, not 125 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: only running football, you know zas put an emphasis on 126 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 1: that obviously, but he likes how Zach utilizes the running 127 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: backs out of the backfield. I mean that's a that's 128 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: a very big characteristic and trade that Joe has. It's 129 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: very favorable. I mean, he catches the ball. You get 130 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: him the ball in space when that big freight train 131 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: gets moving, He's he's gonna make some people miss. He's 132 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: gonna get yards after catch. So it would not shock 133 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: me to have him with a thousand yards rushing in 134 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: two thousand, you know, scrimmage yards when you're throwing the 135 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: yards pass. Would It would not stun me whatsoever. And 136 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: uh you know, I mean he scored a bunch of 137 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: touchdowns last year. I think he had eight rushing touchdowns 138 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: last year. So I mean if he if he fifteen 139 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: to twenty, would be no shock to me whatsoever to 140 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: see Joe mix and put up those kind of numbers 141 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: telling you though the uh, the kind of secret weapon, 142 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: hidden weapon as such, Giovanni Bernard in this offense, watch 143 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: out for Giovanni Bernard. And then there recently acquired Samaj 144 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: p Ryan, all two hundred and forty three pounds of him. 145 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: He's the thunder and now he got a couple of 146 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: lightning strikes in Bernard and Mixing. If I had predicted 147 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: at the start of training camp that Jake Della la 148 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: Gala would make the fifty three man roster, what would 149 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: you have said. I would have said that he's gonna 150 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: have to light it up, you know in the exhibition games. 151 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: We saw him though, you know, right at the end 152 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: of workouts the mandatory mini camp, do a job out 153 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: there and watching him spend the football, it's like, man, 154 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: looking at this guy with his measurables and I'm talking 155 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: about his height at sixty seven and two hundred and 156 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: forty pounds and be able to spin the ball like 157 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: he did. It's like, hey, you've got something to work 158 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: with there, you know, potentially, but you wouldn't think, oh, 159 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: this guy's gonna make such a statement. They're gonna have 160 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: to keep three quarterbacks, he's gonna make the fifty three 161 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: men roster and be deactivated. But he did it, and 162 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: you know, credit to him. The one thing though, that 163 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: that he definitely has to work on, and I think 164 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: it was part of the part of what he was 165 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: doing was trying to impress the coaches and the organization 166 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: that he should make the team because of his arm. 167 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: Everything was going down the field. I mean Charlie checked down. 168 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: He was not. He was the opposite of that. He 169 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: had Ellis a couple of times in that last game 170 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: against the Colts where one of them was a touchdown, 171 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: another one was a big game. He was like five 172 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,599 Speaker 1: yards open, catching yards after catch would have been a 173 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: big game, and he was trying to get it to 174 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: the second and third level down the football field, showing 175 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: off that arm strength time and time again. So that 176 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: was his mindset. So I think now that he's made it, 177 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: he has to work on all the things necessary to 178 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: be a complete quarterback in the National Football League and 179 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: don't try to force things. If you try to force 180 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: things against you know, and the guys that are starting 181 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: in the National Football League as much as you did 182 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: against guys he was playing against in the second half, 183 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 1: fourth quarter of those football games. That'd be a different story, 184 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: I think. Lap the Bengals have tried to fix the 185 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: offensive line. They've used their number one draft pick each 186 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: of the last two drafts on an offensive lineman, and unfortunately, 187 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: neither one of those guys will be in the starting 188 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: lineup on Sunday. Is the line better or worse than 189 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: a year ago? You know, I think it's I think it's. 190 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: Looking at it, it's pretty much the same. You know. 191 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: I do think Miller is an upgrade at the right 192 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: guard position. I mean, I think that that kid is 193 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: a very very consistent performer. You've got to give Trey 194 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: Hopkins a big tip of the cap, you know, if 195 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: you're winning the job at the center position. And Michael 196 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: Jordan's an unknown, but he has got huge upside potential. 197 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess that's why it's hard to put 198 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: a mark on it with him in particular, because his 199 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: good is unbelievably good. He's so long and so powerful, 200 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: and his bad can be bothersome though, because he's you know, 201 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: he's young, and hopefully he won't the bad won't continue, 202 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: you know, maybe a one time thing, and he works 203 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: through it. And gets over it. You know, the left 204 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: tackle position is a big question mark. You know, Corty Glenn, 205 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: how much will he be able to play? You can't 206 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: count on it for sixteen games. He hasn't been there 207 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: for sixteen games, even in the opener. If he's able 208 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 1: to uh to suit up in the opener, I don't 209 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: know if I count on him for sixty minutes. You know, 210 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: I got to get Andre Smith ready to play the 211 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: tackle position, so you know that I get in my opinion, 212 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: hopefully this group the offensive lines that I played on 213 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: that were the better offensive lines, the sum total of 214 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: the offensive line was better than the individual parts except 215 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: for Anthony Munos, but I mean usually the sum total 216 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: was a better component than each guy when you evaluate 217 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: each guy, because you know, the offensive line is the 218 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: only It's like a bunch of three hundre pound June 219 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: Taylor dancers. You have to be in total concert. You 220 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: have to be helping each other, you have to be 221 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: doing the same thing and understand, everybody has to be 222 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: on the exact same page. So we'll see if this 223 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: offensive line is that type of offensive line, and it 224 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: could be. It could be. I don't think Jimmy Turner 225 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: is not doing a whole bunch that is going to 226 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: confuse these guys. Now. They didn't show anything in the preseason, 227 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: and they'll show more, obviously against the Seahawks in terms 228 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: of blocking configurations and all that sort of thing. But 229 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be rocket science. I 230 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: really don't. I think he's going to keep it pretty 231 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: simple and just let guys go out and execute and 232 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 1: see what they can put together. What new assistant coach 233 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: really cut your eye in training camp? Oh, a bunch 234 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: of them, did. I think? You know, Jim Turnercott and 235 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: eye with this simplistic approach that he was taken to 236 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: it all and he's a rep guy, and you know, 237 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: over and over and over and over again the same things. 238 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: And I remember with Jimmy McNally, it started with our 239 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: stance every access, then we did the duck walk, then 240 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: we did you know, the other other drills, and the 241 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: last practice for the Super Bowl started with our stands. 242 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: You're got to work on your stands every practice, guys. 243 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: You know, shift your weight, don't tip that you're shifting 244 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: your weight, but get get all your weight on the 245 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: left side of your body to your right side. Is 246 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: freed up. Shift it back to the right side of 247 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: your body so your left side is freed up, and 248 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: don't tip it by how much pressure you're putting it 249 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: in your hand. Working on all from the stands all 250 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: the way through, exact same thing every single day. And 251 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: Jimmy Jimmy Turner funny, it's too Jimmy, Jimmy McNally and 252 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: Jimmy Turner. Jimmy Turner is doing the same type of 253 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: thing with these guys. The repetition of it and the 254 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: targets are simple. Everything fits. So I've been impressed with him, 255 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: how he's worked with that offensive line. James Casey, been 256 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: impressed with that guy. I think he's a hell of 257 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: a tight end coach. And in talking to the tight ends, 258 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: they said that he not only tells you what to do, 259 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: he tells you what to avoid because he's been on 260 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: the field. Don't think he can do this, don't think 261 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: he can take this shortcut. Don't don't assume anything here. 262 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: I mean he's he's been there, done that. And so 263 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: the tight ends have had consecutive coaches that have played 264 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: in the National Football League for a duration. There's something 265 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: you know significant there and I mean, I could go 266 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: down the list, and that's I think Zach Taylor took 267 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 1: his time and put together a staff that is really 268 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: really good teachers, and they can all all get their 269 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: points across, and they do it with enthusiasm, excitement, and 270 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 1: the guys are buying into it. I think I think 271 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: every player is buying what the coach and staff is selling. 272 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: I really do. Last year, the Bengals allowed nearly four 273 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: hundred and fourteen yards a game, most enfranchise history, ranked 274 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: last in the NFL. They gave up twenty eight point 275 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: four points a game. Only two teams are worse, the 276 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: Raiders and the Buccaneers. Will the defense be significantly better 277 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: in your opinion? And if so, why, Yeah, it's the same. 278 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: It's the same scenario. The strength of the teams. The 279 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: defensive line kept a loving of them. I mean, that's 280 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: that's pretty oppressive. To keep eleven defensive lineman. It was meritocracy, 281 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 1: just like everything. Um, you know, Damian Willis gets the 282 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: starting exposition because he was the best player. Didn't matter, 283 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: So keep eleven defensive lineman, four linebackers because eleven defensive 284 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 1: lineman played better than the other linebackers that they let 285 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: go so you know, it's it's like players appreciate if 286 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: you go out there and you put tape a good 287 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: tape on your resume, it should benefit you. And I 288 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: think they respect and appreciate, you know, the fact that 289 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: they've structured the team the way they have. In today's football, 290 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,359 Speaker 1: you know, how many times do you use three linebackers? 291 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: That's the concern defensive line. Unbelievable back end, solid linebacker, 292 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: big question marks. So we've seen it three years now. 293 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: Linebacker has been picked on. They've been isolated and picked 294 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: on over and over and over again. And in today's 295 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: NFL with teams going seventy five three receivers or more, 296 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: you know, you go Nickel and Dine no more than 297 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: two linebackers potentially, So it fits. I mean, and the 298 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: thing that impresses me about the defensive lineman Dan, you 299 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: have multiple guys that can do multiple things. Carl Lawson 300 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: can be like Ah, like Ross Browner with us and 301 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: others over the years, he can rush or drop. Hubbard 302 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: has shown he can rush or drop. Willis has shown 303 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: he can rush or drop. I mean, they have multiple 304 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: guys that they can do multiple things with on their 305 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: defensive line. To try to confuse pass protections, assignments. I 306 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: do I count him as a linebacker? Do I count 307 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: him as a defensive lineman? What do I count him 308 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: as in our protection? You know, all those kind of 309 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: things offensive linemen have to start to think about. So 310 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: I think I think that this group, potentially, you know, 311 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: could hopefully play better. And the biggest reason is lou 312 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: Anna Rumo. His whole scenario has been eliminate grayer, black 313 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: and white. I'm simplifying. It's like too much grayer or 314 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: too much thinking. And I think that he's done a 315 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: good job of that, and I think that's going to 316 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: show up, and I think it's going to be the 317 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: defense is going to be as good as their front 318 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: and their back end allows it to be lap. The 319 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: Bengals open the season at Century Link Field in Seattle, 320 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: which has twice held the Guinness World Record for loudest 321 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: crowd roar at an outdoor stadium. We hear about that 322 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: all the time, but take us to the line of scrimmage. 323 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: What does that mean? When you're playing, it means it 324 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: means a bunch, There's no question about it. I mean, 325 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: particularly if you're in if you're in a close football game, 326 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: fourth quarter of a close football game, third and seven, 327 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: you have to convert your you're down four points, you 328 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: have to keep a drive going. And it's a din 329 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't hear a thing. If you look 330 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: at your teammate, you can see his mouth move. You 331 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: can't hear one word in they're screaming, you know, they're 332 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: they're screaming at the top of their lungs and it 333 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: just looks like their minds. I mean, there's nothing happening. 334 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: So it is disconcerting to an offensive lineman. For sure. 335 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: Your only advantage is being able to hear the snap 336 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: count and move on the snap count because the defensive 337 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: lineman doesn't know what the snap count is. When you 338 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: have to give up that advantage and look and kind 339 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 1: of move on the ball moves that your only advantage 340 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: is taken away. So what the Bengals have done a 341 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: big time job on, and it started even during way 342 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: back in OTAs a silent snap count because they've known 343 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: they've had the Seahawks for an opener for a long 344 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: time and they've been working on in the meeting rooms, 345 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: on the field, in the locker room, this silent snap count. 346 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: And there's a couple of different triggers they can use, 347 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: and it's it's pretty cool what they're what they're going 348 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: to try to do. And I'm thinking they may draw 349 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: Seattle offside. How big would that be? If they draw 350 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 1: the Seahawks off sides out there utilizing a silent snap 351 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: counts of their advantage, that would be that would be 352 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: bigger than big time. The Seahawks are number one in 353 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: the NFL and running the ball last year they haveage 354 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty yards a game. The Bengals are 355 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: twenty eighth. Then stopping the run, they gave up one 356 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 1: thirty eight. It's that the biggest key on Sunday, it is, 357 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: you know, and Dan, you look at it. Um they're 358 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: only five teams in the NFL that threw the ball 359 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: last year less than five hundred times, and Buffalo is 360 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: one of them, Seattle's another, Miami's another, Arizona is another. 361 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: Bengals play all of them, and then Tennessee is the fifth. 362 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 1: So all those teams really emphasize the running game, and 363 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 1: you know, the Bengals play all all those teams. Only 364 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: two teams in the NFL ran the ball more than 365 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: five hundred times and that's a Baltimore and Seattle. So 366 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: you play Baltimore twice, you play Seattle. They both emphasize 367 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:39,719 Speaker 1: the run. So looking at these opponents Arizona with this 368 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: new quarterback, will they still emphasize the run? I think 369 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: so with a rookie quarterback, you want to make sure 370 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: you get the running game on. He may be a 371 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: weapon in the running game, and I don't know how 372 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: much he's so small, but Miami's going to try to 373 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 1: still pound it, you know, Seattle's obviously gonna Buffalo is 374 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: obviously the Bengals have to be able to stop the run, 375 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: and they have to be able to run the ball themselves. 376 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: They have to win. They're playing all these teams an 377 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: emphasize the running game to the extent that they had 378 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: last year and probably will this year. You have to 379 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: be able to not get dominated in the running game 380 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: and be one dimensional. You have to be able to 381 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: be balanced and I mean try to outrush some of 382 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: these people, you know, in terms of attempts inefficiency and 383 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: see where it takes you. Russell Wilson is now the 384 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: highest paid player in the NFL, average salary thirty five 385 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 1: million dollars a year. He's obviously among the best scramblers 386 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 1: in the league, but Seattle gave up fifty one sacks 387 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: last year. Could this be a big day for the 388 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 1: Bengals pass rush. Yeah, I think, I think. You know 389 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson because of his scrambling ability, like you described, 390 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: he thinks that you can't ever get him on the ground, 391 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: So he is deeper in the shotgun and any other 392 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL because he's diminutive with the hype factor, 393 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: so he wants to get separation from the line of 394 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 1: scrimment so he can see better. So he's got a 395 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:58,959 Speaker 1: deeper shotgun snap acceptance to the football, and he'll run around, 396 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: he'll run around act there, and he'll he'll create and 397 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: he'll he'll do all of his things that way. Um, 398 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: So he does get trapped. And once once you know, 399 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: once a certain amount of time is taken has taken 400 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: place on the clock. At that point there's an offensive lineman, 401 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: you're okay, okay, man, you're on your own because you 402 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: don't know where he's gonna run, you don't know how 403 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: he's gonna you know, address the rest of the play. 404 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: And you know, the unscripted unscripted plays is where Russell 405 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: Wilson sometimes excels. Sometimes his unscripted plays end up being 406 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: better than the play that was called. But sometimes he's 407 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: gonna get trapped too. So I mean, if he's getting 408 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: sacked in three point five seconds, that's on the old line. 409 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: But if he's running around for ten seconds back there 410 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: and gets gets trapped, that's that's not on the old line. 411 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 1: Seattle still has the reputation of being great on defense, 412 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: but the legion of boom Era is officially over. It 413 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: ended in Week four last year when Earl Thomas broke 414 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,959 Speaker 1: his leg and then flipped off Pete Carroll as he 415 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 1: was taken off the field on a cart. Thomas says 416 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: in Baltimore, now, how good is Seattle's defense these days? 417 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: And how will it challenge the Bengals on Sunday. I 418 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: think it's good. You know, Seattle runs their stuff. You 419 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: know Seattle, Pete Carroll and the defensive coaches aren't saying, 420 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: you know, they are to an extent, but it's like, 421 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: you know, you know what, no matter what the Bengals 422 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: end up deciding to do, We're going to play Seattle 423 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: Seahawk defense. We are going to do our stuff. And 424 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 1: they do that as well as anybody. No matter what 425 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: you're trying to do against them, they're going to do 426 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,360 Speaker 1: their thing. And the other thing they do is retool 427 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: as well as anybody. And Jadavian Clowney is the most 428 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: recent example of it. This guy, when you add tackles, 429 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: philoss and sacks together, he's number one in the NFL 430 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: the last few years. His tackle floss is off the charts. 431 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: So everybody talks about him as an edge pass rusher 432 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: and he's good, but man, nobody talks about how good 433 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: he is disrupting the run and those We've talked about 434 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: it all the time. You know, the quarterback sacks are 435 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: so sexy. You know it's like quarterback steps up in 436 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: the pocket and he's sack for a two yard loss 437 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: and everybody goes, oh, that's great, a running backs hit 438 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: for two yard loss. And he's like, yeah, you know, 439 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: second and twelve. I mean it's the same deal. It's 440 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: the same situation that you're stressing the offense with and 441 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: the defense performing. So Jadeveon Clowney is disruptor and you 442 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 1: know he's going back to a four three defense, which 443 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: he was in college. He was a four three defensive end. Well, 444 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: he was in a three man package down there in Houston, 445 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: and Romeo Cornell did a great job of putting him 446 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: in a two point stands, putting him in the A gap, 447 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: and he'd get a lot of a lot of disruption 448 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: in the A gap from two point two point outside. 449 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: He'd line him up, say find the fish, find the 450 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: weakest spot in the offensively, and go take advantage of 451 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 1: it out of a two point stanch, you know. And 452 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,239 Speaker 1: so I don't think, I don't know if Seattle's going 453 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 1: to do that. That's not Seattle sting Seattle. I think 454 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 1: we'll have him as a as a right defensive end 455 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: going against whoever our left tackle is in that football game, 456 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: and that's a matchup that you're gonna have to watch. 457 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: The other thing that is a factor in that defense 458 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: higher than the average bear, Bobby Wagner's a stud. Bobby Wagner, 459 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: in my opinion, is the best linebacker in the NFL, 460 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: because I mean, he's equally effective against the runner of 461 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: the past. He can run laterally, he'll come downhill and 462 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: hit you. He had one hundred and thirty eight tackles 463 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: for him last year, led them in tackles. He had 464 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 1: a ninety eight yard interception return for a touchdown. I mean, 465 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: the dude's a playmaker, so you know, and Nake try 466 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: to keep him clean with those four down linemen. So yeah, 467 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 1: there's still there's still plenty to worry about. I don't 468 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: think the back end is anywhere near as good as 469 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: it was in the Legion of Boom and Doom. But there, 470 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: you know, I think the front seven is still so 471 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: good that it kind of uh, you know, puts some 472 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: makeup on the on the blemish of the back end 473 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: of that defense a little bit. When you say go 474 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: find the fish, that's an expression for finding the weak 475 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: link on the other team's line. We got to do 476 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: that literally this weekend, going to see that. I got 477 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: to go find some good fish, no question, I mean 478 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: I want to. Last time I was up there, I 479 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: was watching him throw the I mean the guy that 480 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: catches the fish, she's strong man, because those fish are sliming. Now, 481 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: this dude is good. He must have more stick him 482 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 1: on than Daniel Brentwood's head. You know, for him to 483 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: just pluck the fish like he does, that's pretty impressive. 484 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: I'm that guy. He knows what He's doing our broadcast 485 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 1: on the Bengals Radio Network this Sunday begins at two 486 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: thirty Eastern, and my fun Facts interview on the pregame 487 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: show will be with Bengals President Mike Brown. It is 488 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: always a great conversation. The Bengals have not played in 489 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: Seattle since two eleven, the seventh game of Andy Dalton's 490 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: rookie year. That day, the Red Rifle led the Bengals 491 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 1: to a thirty four to twelve win, part of a 492 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: five game winning streak that season that helps Cincinnati make 493 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 1: the playoffs. And He's only other game against the Seahawks 494 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: was a twenty seven, twenty four overtime win in two 495 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: fifteen that saw the Bengals rally from a seventeen point 496 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: deficit in the fourth quarter. Dalton will try to make 497 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,959 Speaker 1: it three and oh against Seattle on Sunday as he 498 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: plays his first NFL game for a head coach other 499 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 1: than Marvin Lewis. I talked to Andy about Zach Taylor 500 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: and much more. Do you remember your initial reaction when 501 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: you learned that the Rams young quarterbacks coach was going 502 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: to be your new head coach? I do. I was excited, 503 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: you know, you've seen rumors a different thing that's going 504 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: to happen. But you know, for me to it's my 505 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 1: first time on our career to have an offensive coach 506 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: and to know the background of Zach where he's been, 507 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: and you know, just to have him that played the 508 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 1: quarterback position everything, I was really excited about it. It 509 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: seems to me you two guys have a lot in common. 510 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: You're only four and a half years apart in age. 511 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: He was a highly successful quarterback although his career ended 512 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 1: at Nebraska, your devoted family men. You both have kind 513 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 1: of even keeled personalities. Did all of that stuff help 514 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: you guys connect right off the bat? Yeah, for sure. 515 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 1: I think we are similar in the way we just 516 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: kind of carry ourselves and the way we live our life, 517 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: and so it makes it easy to connect with people 518 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: like that. And so yeah, I mean it's been great. 519 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: Ever since he's been here, it's been fun to get 520 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: to know him more. And yeah, I'm just really looking 521 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: forward to him being here for a long time. For 522 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: visiting with Andy Dalton. You've had four offensive coordinators in 523 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: your first eight seasons. Brian Callahan makes it five, and 524 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: we just assume as fans that it's Andy. He'll be 525 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: able to handle that. He's got such a great grasp 526 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: of the xs and ohs. But how difficult is it 527 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: and what's the most challenging part? Yeah, I mean it's 528 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: you're doing similar stuff. I mean the offense. It's like 529 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: I said, it's a copycat league, and so there's similar 530 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 1: things that I've done throughout my career. It's gonna be 531 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 1: called completely different and to have three different terminologies in 532 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 1: three years, I mean, it's just okay, you're interpreting. Okay, 533 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: this is what I used to call it, this is 534 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: what I'm calling it now, and just getting ready for it. 535 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's fun to learn a new offense. Obviously, 536 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: I'd like to be an assistant longer than just one year. 537 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: But now it's been good. No sane person would suggest 538 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 1: that AJ Green's injury was a good thing for the team. 539 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: But did it accelerate the progress of some of the 540 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: other receivers. Yeah, obviously, if you know, you never wanted 541 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,360 Speaker 1: an injury to happen, But it allowed other guys to 542 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: get reps that they wouldn't have gotten. So when AJ 543 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: comes back, it'll be you know, we'll be that much 544 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: farther ahead, because these guys will have played a lot, 545 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: and so I definitely think that it's helped the development 546 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: of some of these guys. You were drafted one year 547 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: before Andrew Luck. What was your reaction to him retiring 548 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: at the age of twenty nine. You know, it's Andrew's 549 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: obviously been through a lot with all the injuries that 550 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: he's had, and at the end of the day, if 551 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: you're not finding joy in the game of football, which 552 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: I think is what he was saying, it's like he 553 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: wasn't able to be himself. He wasn't able to live 554 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: the life that he wanted to live. And so, you know, 555 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: I'm happy for him that he's had that clarity and 556 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 1: he's had that peace with the decision. Obviously, it's going 557 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: to be different having him as the quarterback for the 558 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: for the Colts played against each other for a long time. 559 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: Obviously every preseason we would end against each other and 560 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: then played against him throughout the years. But um, you know, 561 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: I'm just happy for him that he's got that piece 562 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: with everything. I'm going to ask you to do something 563 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: you don't like to do. Brag about yourself. You've been 564 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: a starting quarterback in the NFL for eight years, three 565 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 1: time Pro Bowler. By the end of this year, you'll 566 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: probably have the franchise record for completions. What are you 567 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: proudest of so far? Yeah, I think anytime you can 568 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: stay in one place for a long time, I think 569 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: that's that's one thing. We've really established ourselves in Cincinnati 570 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: from the time that we got here, and so this 571 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: is a place that we wanted to be and we 572 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,239 Speaker 1: wanted to be here for a long time. So I 573 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: think the first and foremost to be able to, you know, 574 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: have success enough to where you know you're going to 575 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: be in the city of Cincinnati. I think that's that's 576 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: one thing. There's been a lot of accomplishments that have 577 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: gone on since I've been here. Obviously, like you said, 578 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: the three the three Pro Bowls and different things. But 579 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: now I think just a lunge of a career. I mean, 580 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: going into year nine now, you know, I want to 581 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: keep playing for a while, so you know, hopefully we're 582 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: kind in the middle stages of my career. A couple 583 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: of questions about Seattle. They had two double digit sack 584 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: guys last year. They traded front Frank Clark, Jaron Reid, 585 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: is suspended. I thought, maybe you catch him in a 586 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: good time when their pass rush isn't going to be great, 587 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: and then last weekend they get Jadvan Clowney. How does 588 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,479 Speaker 1: that impact you going into Week one. Yeah, he's a 589 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: disruptive player, and you know, he had seen rumors about 590 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: maybe Seattle trying to go after him, and then obviously 591 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: it actually happened. It's just a guy that we had 592 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: to prepare for. We have to know where he's at. 593 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: He's so good. He's able to do things and and 594 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: make plays that not a lot of guys can make. 595 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: So for us, we just got to know where he's at. 596 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: What makes Bobby Wagner so unique. He's got instincts. He 597 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: understands their defense really well. He's obviously been in that 598 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: system for a long time. He is athletic. He really 599 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: can do it all. He can play the run, he 600 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: can recover, you know, getting the past lanes and all 601 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. But I think it's just his 602 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: knowledge of the game and knowledge of their system make 603 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: him the player that he is. Last question, do you 604 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: like being an underdog? You know, I feel like I've 605 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: been donna dog from a lot of my career and 606 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: so now it's one of those things you you want 607 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: to prove people wrong when you're not getting any attention 608 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: any of that stuff. But frous, we're just worried about, 609 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: you know, this one, getting getting a win for Seattle 610 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: and we'll put ourselves in good position moving forward. My 611 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: first year as the announcer was your first year as 612 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: the quarterback. Best of luck in year number nine, and 613 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: thank you for all you and JJ have done for 614 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: needy families in our community. Yeah, I appreciate it. And 615 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: he could be going into Sunday's game without Cordy Glenn 616 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: had left tackle. Glenn is still in concussion protocol, although 617 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: Cordy was on the rehab field on Wednesday, which is 618 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: the first step toward we turn into action. If he 619 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: can't play in Seattle, Andre Smith will take his place. 620 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: Now time for this week's No the Faux segment, and 621 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: this week Lap and I had the chance to visit 622 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: with Seahawks radio voice Steve Rabel, a former wide receiver 623 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: for the team. We started by asking Steve to discuss 624 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: the Seahawks biggest storylines during training camp leading up to 625 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: Game one. The biggest one, of course, is the one 626 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: on just the other day, the trade for Jadevian Clowney. 627 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: You know a few of us kind of speculated on 628 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: and there were people talking about it, but we just 629 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: we we didn't believe that it would really come to pass, 630 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: only because you know, the cost was going to be 631 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: fairly high, and you know that late were you were 632 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: you ready prepared to take on somebody like Clowney at 633 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: that point in season. Well, now we find out that 634 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: that John Schneider actually started to make contact back before 635 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: the draft, just to touch base on it. So what 636 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: they did in one fell swoop is you know, I've 637 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: been saying all through training camp, how are they going 638 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: to replace the production of Frank Clark fourteen sacks counting 639 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: the playoff last year, how are you going to replace that? 640 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: Well they just did. Zicknions is healthy and he a 641 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,959 Speaker 1: career nine, ten eleven fact guy every year every season 642 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: he's healthy. And now you get Clowney who's gotten what 643 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: career twenty nine or thirty sacks in just three four seasons. 644 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: So I think I think we've taken care of that 645 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: part of the equation and that now frees us up 646 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: to do other things on defense instead of trying to 647 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: trying to game plan how you're going to put pressure 648 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: with guys that you know are just are just guys. 649 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: They're not Pro bowlers like these two. And the thing 650 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: about Clowney that a lot of people don't realize is 651 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: his tackles. Philoss. I mean, when he sets the edge, 652 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: it's it's a tackle forloss a lot of times. He's 653 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: one of four guys in the NFL that have over 654 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: fifty tackles for loss in over twenty sacks since two sixteen. 655 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: So this guy sets the edge in the in the 656 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: running game and will be leebell edge rusher. And you 657 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: couple him with Anzo, who's you know, going to have 658 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: his first appearance. That's a that's a pretty good book end. 659 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: And then in the middle you put Bobby wagner Man. 660 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: That's a Bermuter triangle potentially defense. Yeah, it's really interesting, 661 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: laugh how this defense has changed from the Legion of 662 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: Boom just a couple of years ago, focused so much 663 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: as it was on the secondary and rightly so, you know, 664 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: three out of four of the guys were Pro bowlers 665 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: back there. Two of them almost certainly maybe three are 666 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: going to end up in the Ring of Honor. Earl 667 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: Kind of might have fingered his way out of a 668 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: out of that list, but that's story. But you know, 669 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: the move now is back toward the middle of the field, 670 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: and we've got this great trio of linebackers veteran guys 671 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: and Bobby Wagner and kJ Wright and Michael Kendricks and 672 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: some young guys behind them. They went specifically in the 673 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: draft looking for who are the next guys who are 674 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: going to step up when these guys are finally done playing, 675 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: and they went and found those guys too. So the 676 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: defense has really kind of shifted a little bit. But 677 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: the real key now is those Let's not forget the 678 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: best down defensive line had all last season and then 679 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: back the last couple of years. Jaren Reid is not 680 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: going to play the first six weeks. He's been suspended 681 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 1: right by the league. Very questionable, but he is a 682 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: guy who really he had ten sacks last year from 683 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: He's like Geno Atkins, I mean, he can make things 684 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,760 Speaker 1: happen from that inside position. So when he comes back, 685 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 1: and then poor A Ford, the guy who everybody was 686 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: talking about at the end of training camp last year, 687 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:37,800 Speaker 1: has solidified himself at maybe five eleven and three hundred 688 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: pounds and he's like trying to move a buick in 689 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: the middle of the line. He is a good one too, 690 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,280 Speaker 1: so I'm really excited about our defense. We are talking 691 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 1: to the voice of the Seahawks, Steve Rabel. Let's turn 692 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: to offense for a second. How does rookie receiver dk 693 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: Metcalf looking I don't mean with his shirt off. Well, yeah, 694 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 1: those guys when I was playing were defensive ends, and 695 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: now he's a wide receiver. For heaven's sake, He's an 696 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 1: unbelievable physical specimen. He's also a really smart, humble kid, 697 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: and all he wants to do is get better and learn, 698 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: and that's what he's done all during training camp until 699 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 1: he kind of injured his knee a little bit and 700 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: had to undergo a procedure. Nobody's really said what it was, 701 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: but kind of a cleanout procedure in his knee about 702 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 1: fourteen days ago, two weeks ago, and Pete says he's 703 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 1: very likely going to be ready to play on Sunday, 704 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,439 Speaker 1: which is a big deal. Now he might he won't 705 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: play every snap on offense, and that's probably a good thing. 706 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: But slowly get him in there, get him some playing time. 707 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 1: He's listed as a starter on the depth chart, but 708 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: I got a feeling that Jeron Brown will probably start 709 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: opposite Tyler Lockett, or if they start three wide receivers, 710 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 1: then you might put DK in there. But he's been, 711 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: he's been something, and he can get down field. He 712 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: actually runs routes better than anybody expected. You know, he 713 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: worked with Jerry Sullivan out of the former coach at 714 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,280 Speaker 1: Arizona on running pass routes, you know, breaking down, getting 715 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: out of his routes, but getting his head around, and 716 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 1: he's much better at that than I think any of 717 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: us thought he was going to be. And we all 718 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: know he can run. He's a four three guy downfield 719 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,240 Speaker 1: at six to four and two hundred and twenty pounds 720 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,479 Speaker 1: and one and a half percent body fat. Oh my god, 721 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: I mean I can't even imagine I get one percent 722 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: body fighting a little finger. But I mean, that's that's unbelievable. Really, 723 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,240 Speaker 1: it really is. Well, so the thing that I realized 724 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: that the Seahawks, you know, were established that ground game. Obviously, 725 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty yards a game last year led 726 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: the league fifth in the league four point and to carry. 727 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: But when I looked at numbers. They ran the ball 728 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: second most in the NFL behind Baltimore, who when they 729 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,399 Speaker 1: put Jackson at quarterback, they were pounding the ball. But 730 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: those are the only two teams in the NFL that 731 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: ran it over five hundred times. You know, for the season, 732 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 1: they're dead last in past attempts, the second in the 733 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: league in Rushes, dead last in past attempts. And with 734 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: that said, Russell Wilson had the best year he's ever had. 735 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 1: I guess I guess less was more for him with 736 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 1: that running game so established him. Yeah, exactly what it 737 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 1: meant was he was so effective thirty five touchdown, seven interceptions. 738 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,359 Speaker 1: That ratio himself is great. If you're throwing the ball, 739 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: you know, three four or five times, he's not right. 740 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 1: And he also didn't run as much as he has 741 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: in the past two straight weeks. He almost got his 742 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 1: life taken off. Some guys would have been on ir 743 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: and yet he's amazingly tossed. He really operates well in 744 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: this offense. He operates well. He loves handing the ball 745 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: to Chris in the backfield. You got um pro Sites 746 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: who was just coming back kind of really starting to 747 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: look like he's he's the player we thought he was 748 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: when they drafted him in the third round. But this 749 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: is this is a good offense. And you know where 750 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: it starts, slap and everybody will say this, who's ever 751 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 1: been a part of football? It starts up front. And finally, 752 00:37:56,120 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: we have an experienced veteran, a group of guys returning, 753 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: and they all understand the system. They're led by Dwayne 754 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 1: Brown on the left end, left tackle side, and I 755 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: think they're just as good as any offensive line in 756 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: the game right now. A couple more questions for Seahawks 757 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,399 Speaker 1: voice Steve Rabel. I've got a thirteen year old son, 758 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: Steve Russell Wilson is his favorite player in the NFL. 759 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: Even though his dad works for the Bengals. He's not 760 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 1: allowed to wear his number three Seahawks jersey this weekend. 761 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 1: So what I'm going to say will be heresy to 762 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 1: my own son. But I want to ask this question. 763 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 1: He was sacked fifty one times last year. We see 764 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,760 Speaker 1: him run around and make big plays when he buys 765 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: extra time. But are there not just times, but numerous 766 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: times where Russell Wilson holds onto it too long? Yeah, 767 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 1: there are some of those times, and it's and it 768 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 1: comes strictly from a guy trying to make a play. 769 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 1: I mean, he comes from a guy who's so confident 770 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: in his own ability. It also came at times when 771 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 1: it was a jail a jailbreak pass rush. And you 772 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,879 Speaker 1: know there are times when our rights coach Germaine Fetti 773 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 1: can be had. Fast pass rushers, tough guys outside make 774 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 1: it difficult on him. He's not got the best feat 775 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 1: in the world. So at times Russ had to just 776 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: as soon as he got the ball, turn and pull away. 777 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 1: And it also came when guys miss blocks. Running backs 778 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 1: miss blocks. You know, we the tight end maybe stay 779 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,359 Speaker 1: in for max protection and miss the block on a 780 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,360 Speaker 1: blitzing linebacker. You know, those kind of things happen too. 781 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 1: But Russ will tell you that probably seven or eight 782 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,240 Speaker 1: times out of ten, when he makes that wheel route 783 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: out of the backfield, something good is going to happen. 784 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 1: His receivers know where he's going. They practice it every 785 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,839 Speaker 1: single day. That okay, he's wheeling out. Here is where 786 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: I need to be, There's where you need to be. 787 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: Here's how we need to get separation. So Russ has 788 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 1: people to throw too, and then you also have that 789 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 1: option is a great ability to run this preseason needed 790 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,400 Speaker 1: a great job getting out of bounds protecting himself. He 791 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: slid down a couple of times and guys went flying 792 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: or rented. Was preseason, after all, and they might take 793 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 1: more shots obviously as the season starts. But most of 794 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: the time he didn't wheel out and get us in trouble. 795 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 1: In third and long situations, it was always you know, 796 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 1: it might have been first or second down, third down 797 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 1: when they knew they had to convert. You didn't see 798 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: nearly as much of that, you know. I think when 799 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: I watch him on tape, he more than any quarterback 800 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 1: that I think in the league does the greatest job 801 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,839 Speaker 1: of putting players between the rock and a hard place. 802 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 1: They can't guess right he's on the edge, linebacker, do 803 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 1: I drop coverage come after him? Do I stay back 804 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,400 Speaker 1: and coverage is going to tuck it and go. He 805 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 1: seems to leverage defensive backs with receivers the same way. 806 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 1: He has them so many times between the rock and 807 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 1: a hard place, and a receiver that he does that 808 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 1: with as well as any is lock it. I mean 809 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 1: lock it last year almost seventeen yards to catch and 810 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 1: over nineteen yards to catch on third down. Four touchdown 811 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 1: catches on third down. He is definitely his deep ball guy, 812 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,840 Speaker 1: isn't he? He really is, And you know it is 813 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 1: one of the big keys of this team. You know, 814 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 1: we talked about how much they run the ball, and 815 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 1: then they're going to run it again this time. Carson 816 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 1: is going to get the ball twenty five times a game. 817 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 1: Penny is going to get his share of runs. But 818 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,359 Speaker 1: what makes this offense really go? And then you know 819 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 1: teams are not done. They can see film, they understand it. 820 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,839 Speaker 1: But you keep pounding the football and guys keep coming 821 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 1: up and playing a little bit closer to the line, 822 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,319 Speaker 1: a little bit closer, and then you have the run 823 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: pass option and Russell rolls out and you watch Tyler 824 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 1: Lockett and he has the greatest ability to cross the 825 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 1: field and get into the olden area on the far 826 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 1: side of the field on a deep sale route and 827 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 1: Russell can put that ball on the money. Did it 828 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 1: several times in preseason. We saw in a bunch last year. 829 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 1: We are one of the best teams in the league. 830 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:48,439 Speaker 1: Get explosive plays and they come specifically off of what 831 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 1: was perhaps a short pass route or a run pass option, 832 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,240 Speaker 1: and Russell is able to find his guy downfield, because 833 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,879 Speaker 1: exactly what you said, you put the defense in such 834 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,839 Speaker 1: a bond should they come up as they drop back, 835 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 1: and if they're all not on the same page, there's 836 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: generally a big open spot in there someplace, and Russell 837 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: has the vision to find it. Here in Cincinnati, we're 838 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: morning the final month of Marty Brenneman's broadcasting career. And 839 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 1: of course Marty's signature call is and this one belongs 840 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,840 Speaker 1: to the reds Well. Steve Rabel's signature call when the 841 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 1: Seahawks do something spectacular is holy Cutfish. Hopefully you'll have 842 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,880 Speaker 1: to save that for week two. That's going to do 843 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: it for this edition of the podcast. If you haven't 844 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 1: done so already, please subscribe on iTunes, Stitcher, google Play, Spotify, 845 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,879 Speaker 1: or pod Bean and if you have a minute, give 846 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: it a rating or leave a comment. 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