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Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's right, you heard the man's that time of week.

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Speaker 2: My name is Bernie Frattle. We are Comedy Aliant from

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Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio compound here in Las Vegas. We

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Speaker 2: will take you up to three am Pacific six am Eastern,

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Speaker 2: an absolute jam packed extravaganza tonight. You know there's an

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Speaker 2: old saying, well, sports are entertainment. Let's face that they are.

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Speaker 2: We don't have royalty in this country. Our athletes and

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Speaker 2: are entertainers. Actors they are royalty and well, athletes are entertainers.

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Speaker 2: But it's more than that. When you watch a sporting event,

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Speaker 2: it's a shared experience. I think people want to talk

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Speaker 2: about it. You've come to the right place. We got

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Speaker 2: a lot to talk about tonight, and I'll just tell

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Speaker 2: you right now the midnight hour. The callers have made

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Speaker 2: the midnight hour sensational and we'll have a very highly

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Speaker 2: charged midnight hour tonight. The all time record is when O. J.

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Speaker 2: Simpson passed and people gave their thoughts, and we had

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Speaker 2: thought on both sides. We'll see if this rivals that.

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Speaker 2: I will just give you a tease. I have to

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Speaker 2: ask myself, is a professional league that dubs itself a

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Speaker 2: professional league even though they lose millions of dollars every year?

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Speaker 2: Are they imploding before our very eyes? Are they self destructing?

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Speaker 2: I'm not being hyperbolic, So just set that aside for now,

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Speaker 2: because we'll get to it oh in about fifty eight minutes,

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Speaker 2: and I'll tee it up at about eleven forty five

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Speaker 2: everywhere else in between. But again, absolute jam pack show,

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Speaker 2: and I've got to get to it. All the NFL

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Speaker 2: spring meetings there were some major decisions made, the new

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Speaker 2: college football Playoff fourmatut it's worth discussing. You know, we've

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Speaker 2: got some quarterback chronicles. I want to bring you behind

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Speaker 2: the Curtin and Cleveland. What's going on between Shador and

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Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel? Want Soto a big Oops? If you want

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Speaker 2: my host opinion of Big Oops. I know some things

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Speaker 2: and I'll share with you. But we begin with the

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Speaker 2: NBA playoffs and they are raging. This is really enjoyable.

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Speaker 2: Now the league may not get there, you know New

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Speaker 2: York versus LA, or Golden State versus Boston, or you

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Speaker 2: know some marquee matchup. I don't care if I ever

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Speaker 2: see Lebron again. I've seen enough of Steph. Boston had

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Speaker 2: their run last year. I am liking what I'm seeing now.

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Speaker 2: Part of it is I saw Rick Carlisle up close

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Speaker 2: in personal in Detroit when I covered the Pistons in

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Speaker 2: the early two thousands, and there's an odd symmetry happening here.

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Speaker 2: Carlisle was the coach on November nineteen, two thousand and four,

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Speaker 2: the mouse the palace that was there, and twenty years

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Speaker 2: later that was supposed to be an Indian team that

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Speaker 2: was supposed to win the NBA title. But the mouse

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Speaker 2: at the palace at the organization back decades and now

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Speaker 2: twenty years later, the symmetry. We'll talk to Mark Medina.

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Speaker 2: I told him I thought Indiana would win series. But

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Speaker 2: I didn't say they go up too old. I just

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Speaker 2: believe with Carlisle, the pace they play, their depth and

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Speaker 2: have him watching them there one twenty two, their final

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Speaker 2: twenty seven regular season games, this is a team that's

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Speaker 2: got it going. Oh yeah, by the way, there was

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Speaker 2: another game played. Okay, see strolled into Minnesota, and you know,

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Speaker 2: we're supposed to be objective here and unbiased, but I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: I'm rooting for I'm rooting for the Timberwolves. I love

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Speaker 2: the city of Minneapolis. I've been there many times. If

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Speaker 2: you recall when I signed down this network eight years ago,

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Speaker 2: my signature line was tonight's show, you know it's going

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Speaker 2: to be lit, you know, like like you know Bert

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Speaker 2: Blyleven Minnesota. So as they saying, Burt bllye live in Minnesota,

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Speaker 2: it's going to be lit. As they say in you know,

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Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards, Minnesota, It's going to be lit. So it's real.

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Speaker 2: It's a great city. They're deserving of a champion and

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Speaker 2: someone besides the Twins, the Vikings, well they came close.

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Speaker 2: You get the picture. So Minnesota won. Okay, see lost

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Speaker 2: forty one point game. Move along, Really nothing to see here.

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Speaker 2: I think whoever wins Game four of that series will

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Speaker 2: win that series. If OKC lets them up off the mat,

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Speaker 2: trust me, Minnesota's real, And we don't know how okac's

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Speaker 2: really going to respond if they get into a fist

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Speaker 2: fight in the phone booth. Because let's face it, they've

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Speaker 2: won all their games this year by an average of

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Speaker 2: twelve points. And I think the world does Shay gilgis.

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Speaker 2: I think He's a wonderful guy, great player. He should

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Speaker 2: probably be the face of the league. You know, chet

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Speaker 2: Holmgren right on down the line, the way they play

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Speaker 2: I think the Lakers might have been able to still

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Speaker 2: The Knicks Pacers, which has history going back thirty years.

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Speaker 2: of the pronoun And then Aaron Nessmith goes bananas a

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Speaker 2: miraculous buzzer beater from Tyrese Halibert, which we thought won

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Speaker 2: still could have won in overtime. Conjures up memories of

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Speaker 2: Don Nelson and the Boston Celtics, or Garfield Heard and the

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Speaker 2: Phoenix Suns, and google it. If you don't know. My

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Speaker 2: audience is smart. They probably know Kawhi Leonard a few

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Speaker 2: years back. And the Pacers are up two to zero

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Speaker 2: and give it up to Pascal Siakam thirty nine points,

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Speaker 2: fifteen to twenty three, and the Knicks could not stop.

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Speaker 2: What right now, is the best offense in the postseason, Sorry,

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Speaker 2: Indiana is Jalen Brunson may have had it thirty six

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Speaker 2: he missed a long three pointer that would have tied

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Speaker 2: the game in the final seconds. That's the stuff legends

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Speaker 2: are made of. By the way, the Knicks are three

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Speaker 2: and five in Madison Square Garden this year in the playoffs. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: in Indiana has won six straight road games. It would

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Speaker 2: not surprise me if they go up three to zero.

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Speaker 2: Rick Carlisle knows what he's doing. How are they doing it? Well? Remember,

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Speaker 2: by the okay, I just gave the Pacers credit for

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Speaker 2: being the best offense in the playoffs because they are.

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Speaker 2: But believe it or not, guess who had the higher

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Speaker 2: ranked offense in the regular season. It was the Knicks,

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Speaker 2: and they have two elite talents on the end of

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Speaker 2: the four. But the Pacers offense has hit a new level.

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Speaker 2: It's way more difficult offense to guard than New York's.

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Speaker 2: Is Tyrese Halliburton overrated my ass floor general Pacers offense, though,

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Speaker 2: is more about pace ball movement player movement than any individual.

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Speaker 2: To the first two rounds of the playoffs, Indiana has

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Speaker 2: twenty four minutes of possession the next This is a

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Speaker 2: reality they had not been able to keep up. Through

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Speaker 2: two games, the Pacers have scored one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 2: six points per one hundred possessions, where that would be

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Speaker 2: the second highest mark for any team in the NBA

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Speaker 2: Playoffs in twenty nine years since we've gone to the

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Speaker 2: And you know what, Indiana's offense has been at its

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Speaker 2: down seventeen points in game one, they score on incredible

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Speaker 2: thirty one points and their final thirteen possessions of that game. Now,

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Speaker 2: Game two is pretty tight throughout except guess what the

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Speaker 2: Why the Pacers are dominating the transition game. They're relentless,

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Speaker 2: but their relentlessness starts in transition after made baskets after

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Speaker 2: opportunities are as critical as they've been another series in

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Speaker 2: these playoffs, but over the two games that have been

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Speaker 2: decided by a total of eight points, the Pacers have

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Speaker 2: had a huge advantage in transition. Huge they get out,

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Speaker 2: far more efficient. Okay, I just mentioned they scored forty

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Speaker 2: two points the Pacers did on their final twenty seven possessions.

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Speaker 2: It began with three straight transition layups and two of

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Speaker 2: That's coaching, that's the system. Then McConnell grabbed him of

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Speaker 2: We next have major transition issues, and not just allowing

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Speaker 2: laps after baskets. You know, they leave a guy in

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Speaker 2: what happened to that knixt defense. I think they're tired. Okay,

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Speaker 2: give it up to Pascal Siakam. There's only two rotation

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Speaker 2: players left in the playoffs who previously played a significant

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Speaker 2: role on a title run. Alex Caruso on the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty Lakers. Remember that those remember those playoffs, the the

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Speaker 2: the the Hotel California tournament where you can check in

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Speaker 2: anytime you want, but you can never leave. The Lakers

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Speaker 2: won that full championship and then pass well Siakam for

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Speaker 2: the twenty nineteen Raptors Friday, Siakam alone had ten transition points.

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Speaker 2: The entire Knicks team had eleven. Okay, so you've heard

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Speaker 2: me beat that to death. How are the Pacers getting

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Speaker 2: big buckets? They're attacking Jalen Brunson. Now, the Knicks had

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Speaker 2: only they have him swallow up in a Haliburton isolation.

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Speaker 2: So over the two games, the Pacers, who have been

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Speaker 2: ridiculously efficient otherwise they score almost every time win. Robinson

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Speaker 2: has defended a ball screen. Unsurprisingly, Indiana, they found a

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Speaker 2: they're actions at brunts. Some of those actions resulted in

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Speaker 2: some good looks from me on the ark and they

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Speaker 2: they make threes. Nicks not so much. They play a

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Speaker 2: That's just what they do. And if Jalen Brunson doesn't

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Speaker 2: score thirty at every game, they could get swept. Am

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Speaker 2: I predicting that?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: But here's the part where I'm really gonna get to

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Speaker 2: I said that. I told Mark Medina Carlisle is a difference.

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Speaker 2: Pace is a difference, and depth. The Pacers simply play

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Speaker 2: their reserves more than the NIXT two, and that doesn't

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Speaker 2: even mean their benches any better. New York had the

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Speaker 2: higher rank bench in the regular season to the first

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Speaker 2: two rounds of the playoffs, and both of the games

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Speaker 2: have been close. Even though the knixt starting lineup has

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Speaker 2: been o scored by twenty nine points in forty three minutes.

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Speaker 2: Now it's minus fifty in accumulative three hundred and eight

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Speaker 2: total playoff minutes in the playoffs. The Pacers are getting

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Speaker 2: it done, all right. What else can I say? Whether

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Speaker 2: from more than five guys. Rick Carlisle has said that

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Speaker 2: we're a team that needs everybody. That's how he got

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Speaker 2: to play. I think Tom Thibodeau really only has faith

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Speaker 2: in five people, maybe not even that many, but they

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Speaker 2: appear to be wearing out. And listen, Rick Carlile's won

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Speaker 2: a championship everybody forgets. He won in Dallas in twenty eleven.

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Speaker 2: I've been around the guy. He knows what the hell

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Speaker 2: he's doing. I don't know why Indiana is sort of

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Speaker 2: the bastard child in this tournament. The Knicks you got

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Speaker 2: all the stars. You know, that's fantastic. Ben Stiller and

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Speaker 2: Michael J. Fox and Bill Murray whooped the damn doo.

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Speaker 2: let's begin with the Saturday night NBA game. Nothing to

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Speaker 2: see here? What do you expect in Game four?

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Speaker 2: would go gracefully.

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Speaker 5: I completely agree. Now. To be clear here for the

428
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Speaker 5: listeners funding, Anathanto Takounmpo deserves blame for the first round

429
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Speaker 5: exits eats him playing really well. It's just the injuries,

430
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Speaker 5: the uneven ross or et cetera. But to your larger point, yeah,

431
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Speaker 5: the Bucks need to make that conclusion. Any idea that, Okay,

432
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Speaker 5: we want to hold on to a championship player, we

433
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Speaker 5: draft him, or small market what if Damian Lillard comes

434
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Speaker 5: back and run it back. No, that formula is not

435
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Speaker 5: going to work. They got to lick at their wounds,

436
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 5: cut their losses, and collect as much assets as they can,

437
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Speaker 5: because not only will that set them up for the

438
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Speaker 5: long term future obviously, but you can make the case

439
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Speaker 5: that actually better sets them up for short term success

440
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Speaker 5: because the last three years the ceiling has been a

441
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Speaker 5: first round playoff exit. So what's the point of that.

442
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Speaker 5: That's just spinning their wheels, that's stay hustled. That's something

443
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Speaker 5: that Chicago Bulls do, which historically has been terrible at

444
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Speaker 5: contending for the playoffs, but also terrible rebuilding. They're stuck

445
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Speaker 5: in mediocrity. The Bucks do not want to be in

446
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Speaker 5: that position. So to your point, leading to the draft,

447
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Speaker 5: they got to see what they can get because that's

448
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Speaker 5: usually when a lot of talks happened between teams, because

449
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Speaker 5: draft picks are such an intriguing asset to dangle before

450
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Speaker 5: the draft. But if not, they got to be just

451
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Speaker 5: as aggressive just as soon as free agency starts June

452
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Speaker 5: thirtieth at nine pm Eastern time, because if they just

453
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Speaker 5: run it back, it's going to be another early playoff exit.

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Speaker 2: Well said, and I subscribe to what you said about Giannis.

455
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Speaker 2: He's played well. But you know, many years ago, Chick

456
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Speaker 2: hern was once asked who would win in a one

457
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Speaker 2: on one game between Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, and Chick

458
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Speaker 2: got pissed. He said, don't ask me dumb questions. Basketball

459
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Speaker 2: is a team game. Now. The reason I share that

460
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Speaker 2: story is because Giannis is part of a team, and

461
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Speaker 2: this is this is a franchise that I think has

462
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Speaker 2: a future that be very concerned, be very worried. They

463
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Speaker 2: don't have a first round draft pick until twenty thirty one.

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Speaker 2: They'd have a single player on their current roster who

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Speaker 2: projects as a long term starter. They're in a small

466
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Speaker 2: market and they're facing a harsh business climate, and they

467
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Speaker 2: got a lot of competition now in other small markets.

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Speaker 2: I think you could move Giannis. You could get young players,

469
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Speaker 2: you might get a veteran player, and you're gonna get

470
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Speaker 2: draft choices and cap relief. You got the last word.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm trying to say it I mean

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Speaker 2: to lead the Witnesses. But that's what I just did.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I'm probably fine with you leading the

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Speaker 5: witness because you're on the money here. To be clear,

475
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Speaker 5: I don't know what where he's going to end up.

476
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Speaker 5: I don't know what the Bucks can get in return,

477
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Speaker 5: but generally it's about using this leverage play because Giannis

478
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Speaker 5: is going to be the key domino that falls before

479
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Speaker 5: all the other action takes place the rest of the offseason.

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Speaker 5: So with that, teams are going to be lining up.

481
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Speaker 5: They got to be creative. Game three teams involved to

482
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Speaker 5: make you know, trades work from a salary perspective and

483
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Speaker 5: team need perspective, and what they got to do. It's

484
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Speaker 5: got to be a combination of an all star caliber player,

485
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Speaker 5: some rotation players that fill out their depth, and some

486
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Speaker 5: draft picks. It's not going to be an equal trade

487
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Speaker 5: because Giannis Antetokumpo is a generational talent. But as long

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Speaker 5: as that trade includes an all star, a rotation player,

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Speaker 5: two and raft picks, that's that's a relative win I

490
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Speaker 5: think for the Bucks.

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Speaker 2: I think this. This is my last thought on the issue.

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Speaker 2: Coming off the top rope again, I think you're gonna

493
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Speaker 2: see Darryl Morey get aggressive as long as he doesn't

494
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Speaker 2: have to give away the farm because riddle be this batman.

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Speaker 2: If you put into the coop on the floor with

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Speaker 2: Tyreeks Massey and a healthy Joel Embiid, that's a team

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Speaker 2: that can win a championship.

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Speaker 5: Agree, Yeah, for sure. I mean assuming that Joe Embiid

499
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Speaker 5: can stay healthy and that's the only way. And I'm

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Speaker 5: not saying eighty two games, but just being available for

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Speaker 5: the playoffs. I know, talking to outside medical doctors a

502
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Speaker 5: few months ago, in relation to all his injuries, there's

503
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Speaker 5: a lot of concern about what he's going to look

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Speaker 5: like next season, even his career. But yeah, on paper,

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Speaker 5: they would do that. I think, you know, not just

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Speaker 5: the Sixers, but all the NBA teams. Here, what's fascinating

507
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Speaker 5: is the priorities the NBA teams have. The number one

508
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Speaker 5: priority is having a star player. The number two priority

509
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Speaker 5: is having depth. And because of that, in today's NBA,

510
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Speaker 5: with all the second apron concerns and the assets, you

511
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Speaker 5: don't want to have more than two superstars or else

512
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Speaker 5: you don't have enough roster depths. But when it comes

513
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Speaker 5: to superstar trades, a lot of times the market requires

514
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Speaker 5: you to do that, and so there's going to be

515
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Speaker 5: a lot of calls, there's going to be a lot

516
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Speaker 5: of interest, but this is going to be an ultimate

517
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Speaker 5: game of chicken because the number one and number two

518
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Speaker 5: rankings with getting a star player but having roster depth,

519
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Speaker 5: they might be interchangeable during this marketplace. So as a result,

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Speaker 5: there might be a lot of teams that blink and

521
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Speaker 5: a lot of talks that just kind of result in

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Speaker 5: a stalemate. And that's good result in a lot of

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Speaker 5: things being held up because all the offseason movement leading

524
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Speaker 5: in the draft, post free agency, it all revolves around

525
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Speaker 5: the honest because he the domino that's gonna fall provide

526
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Speaker 5: clarity for everything else. What they do with subsequent signings

527
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Speaker 5: as well as who they draft.

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Speaker 2: All right, last one for me, I'm gonna unvocal subject

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Speaker 2: we never have in this segment. I want to get

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Speaker 2: your thoughts on what's happening in the WNBA, but only

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Speaker 2: from the standpoint that the NBA financially subsidizes the WNBA.

532
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Speaker 2: I believe they will own about sixty percent of the WNBA.

533
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Speaker 2: They give an annual endowment of at least fifteen million

534
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Speaker 2: dollars in that league has done nothing but lose money

535
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Speaker 2: for twenty five years, including fifty million last year. But

536
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 2: they're about to implode and self destruct and jump the

537
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Speaker 2: shark because they just can't get past this catfight and

538
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 2: everybody's in on it now. And so instead of the

539
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Speaker 2: product on the floor, which is actually pretty good, just

540
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Speaker 2: like the Canadian Football League to me, good product too,

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Speaker 2: I just don't care. Mark. Should Adam Silver step in

542
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Speaker 2: and get involved.

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Speaker 5: Well, he's not the commission of the WNBA. I don't

544
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Speaker 5: know how much. I mean, he can have conversations with

545
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 5: Kathy Engelheart, but it's hers. It's her, it's her league

546
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Speaker 5: that she has to overseas. So any negotiations that the

547
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Speaker 5: league has, it's going to be with that league. Office

548
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Speaker 5: and the players Association with the WNBA. So yeah, the

549
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 5: NBA subsidizes it to some degree, but it's not the

550
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Speaker 5: same as it was during its infancy. There's a lot

551
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Speaker 5: more ownership groups that are more independent, and the commitment

552
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Speaker 5: level is different depending on the market, and that makes

553
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Speaker 5: it you know, more robust, more sustainable, but also more

554
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Speaker 5: unpredictable on what happens with this next CVA. I mean,

555
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Speaker 5: the reality is the viewership numbers are high. You know,

556
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 5: there's a reason why networks are trying to showcase games.

557
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Speaker 5: Not only is it Caitlin Clark. There's a lot of

558
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Speaker 5: good players, better teams, just more attractive overall. But I

559
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Speaker 5: think the tough part has always been trying to figure out,

560
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Speaker 5: you know, what they do from an equity standpoint when

561
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Speaker 5: it comes to you know, supporting you know, players who

562
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Speaker 5: you know are moms as well, and giving them the

563
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Speaker 5: resources and then also negotiating excuse me for a second here, Yeah, what.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to say real quickly because we just got

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Speaker 2: about a minute. I understand. Kathy Jungelbert is the league's commissioner.

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Speaker 2: She's actually fallen under a lot of criticism over the

567
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Speaker 2: last few months. Allegedly fumbling interviews and not necessarily being

568
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Speaker 2: very direct on certain issues. I know that I'm in

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Speaker 2: silver may not wield power even though listen the NBA.

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Speaker 2: I can tell you this. In two thousand and two,

571
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Speaker 2: the WNDA was considering striking and David Bert Stern says,

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Speaker 2: go ahead, I'll just shut the league down. Well, they

573
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Speaker 2: didn't strike because they can't survive without the NBA's larges.

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Speaker 2: So he's got a voice at the table and whether

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Speaker 2: he uses it or not is up to him. But

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Speaker 2: this shouldn't continue. We're not talking about the product on

577
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Speaker 2: the floor. We're talking about what's going on on social

578
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 2: media and all the miss gop surrounding it. So again

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Speaker 2: you got the last word.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and sorry someone got caught in my throat.

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Speaker 6: I was.

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Speaker 5: Well, I was trying to get at is you know,

583
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Speaker 5: the salary and how it pertains to the revenue, because

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Speaker 5: you know, the revenue is a king here. If the

585
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Speaker 5: revenue is sustainable, that's when all parties involved become more

586
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 5: open toward, you know, giving more equity there. Yeah, the

587
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 5: NBA can have influence, but it's the w NBA's league there.

588
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 5: They're going to operate the way it is, so I

589
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Speaker 5: think that's what's going to be down. To be clear,

590
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Speaker 5: there's a lot of things that they'll have to iron

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Speaker 5: now in the CBA. I don't think it's going to

592
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 5: be a lost cause. I don't think there's gonna be

593
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Speaker 5: any walkout. I think both parties know there's a lot involved,

594
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Speaker 5: but there's gonna be a lot of negotiations that I

595
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Speaker 5: have to figure out.

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Speaker 2: Mark. Appreciate you as always, buddy, You always get your

597
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 2: finger on the pulls. Feel better and enjoy the playoffs

598
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 2: and we'll be talking against soon.

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Speaker 5: I feel better. We'll talk about Roddy James exclusion from

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Speaker 5: the All NBA team the next week.

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Speaker 2: To shady. Mark always got in with a bang. That

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Speaker 2: is Mark Medina Medina Magic are Fox Sports Radio NBA guru.

603
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 2: You hear him all around the network, and for good reason.

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00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 2: Mark very much has his finger on the pulls. Coming up,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna set up the midnight hour, and from where

606
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Speaker 2: I sit here in Las Vegas, it's twenty minutes before midnight.

607
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 2: Literally perhaps where you sit the same situation, but figuratively

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Speaker 2: it's the midnight hour, which means you have the last word.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear the course tonight. Tonight it's

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Speaker 2: gonna blow up. We may, we may blow past one

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Speaker 2: am again. No one's gonna get turned away. I will

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Speaker 2: set up the topics on the table, as le Hacksaw

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Speaker 2: Hamilton used to say. We'll do that. Coming up. I'm

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Speaker 2: Bernie Fraddle. Come to your line from the Las Vegas

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Studios. Don't go away. You're listening to

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Speaker 2: the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right,

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Speaker 2: back on the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio. Come

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Speaker 2: to your line from the La Vegas Fox for a

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Speaker 2: Radio Studio's just getting started. Man, We're gonna take up

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Speaker 2: to three am Pacific, six am Eastern. So much to

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Speaker 2: get to. And we are thirteen minutes away from the

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Speaker 2: midnight hour with the callers of the stars. And they

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Speaker 2: are eight seven seven nine nine on Fox eight seven

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Speaker 2: seven nine nine six six three six nine briand will

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Speaker 2: take your calls. All right, let's dive into this. I

626
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Speaker 2: have a question for you, folks. Is a WNBA imploding?

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Speaker 2: Are they self destructing? Have they jumped the damn shark?

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Speaker 2: This was supposed to be a renaissance season. Bigger arenas,

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Speaker 2: charter flights, higher profile, you get you get the picture, okay,

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Speaker 2: But after the foul, whether or not you believe it

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Speaker 2: was a you know, a flagrant fowl or not, all

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Speaker 2: hell broke loose. Robert Griffin RG three the third, Well,

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Speaker 2: it's the department of redundancy department, he tweets out the

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Speaker 2: following on May eighteenth, Angel Rees hates Caitlin Clark. It's

635
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Speaker 2: staring us right in the face, but people are afraid

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Speaker 2: to say it. Won't answer your questions about Kaitlyn Clark.

637
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 2: Gets mad when people praise Kaitlyn Clark for the explosion

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Speaker 2: in popularity around women's basketball celebrates. You know, well, you

639
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Speaker 2: saw her celebrate when Kennedy Carter smacked her from behind.

640
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 2: She's doing high fives and jumping up and down after

641
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 2: LSU won the national championship, in which Angel Rees was

642
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 2: a key cogging that making no mistakes. She played a

643
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: great game. But she follows Caitlin Clark around the arena

644
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 2: for an hour and a half with her hand in

645
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 2: her face. You tell me if that's a good look.

646
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 2: Maybe you think it is okay, because now all of

647
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 2: a sudden, the whole world's jumped into this. Wasn't just

648
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 2: RG three, Ryan Clark got in the fray, Brittney Griner,

649
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 2: Cheryl Swoops, hell, everybody, is this good for the WNBA?

650
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 2: You tell me what is your take on? What the

651
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 2: hell's going on? Commissioner's not doing anything about it. Look, look,

652
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 2: I'm giving you facts, not feelings. Okay. The Chicago Sky

653
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 2: are zero and two. And I gotta tell you Angel's

654
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 2: not off to a great start on the floor. She's

655
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 2: averaging seven points of games. She's shooting twenty two percent

656
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 2: from the field and then thirty seven percent for the

657
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 2: free throw line, and when she was over eight the

658
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 2: other night after the game, she went on social media

659
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 2: to talk about her new outfit. Now, you tell me

660
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 2: if that's a good, good look or not, or that's

661
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 2: good for the league or good for Angel Reese or

662
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 2: good for any of this. So I'm asking you tell me.

663
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 2: Is the WNBA imploding or is this good? This infighting,

664
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 2: this cat fighting, this Hatfield versus McCoy type fight, is

665
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 2: it good for the league or is this going to

666
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 2: be a problem? Okay, because you've got people chiming in

667
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 2: now when no one asked their opinion, And I mean,

668
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:02,959
Speaker 2: look what happened between Ryan Clark and RG three. It's

669
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 2: just it's embarrassing in my humble opinion. Okay, Ryan Clark

670
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 2: always sees himself as someone who should be an authority

671
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 2: on more than just sports. He routinely comments and other things, fine,

672
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 2: this is America, it's America. Crazy things. And again Angel Reese,

673
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: she went after Caitlin Clark after that file and then she,

674
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 2: you know, she shared a video claiming Clark was I'm

675
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 2: quoting her. Now white guy running from the fade posted

676
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 2: some crazy TikTok videos. I don't know, man, I just

677
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 2: don't know how this is good. This had a chance, honestly, Now,

678
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 2: this is hyperbolic to be a potential bird Magic rivalry.

679
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 2: But both those guys won, either the Celtics and or

680
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 2: the Lakers, were in the NBA finals the entire decade

681
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 2: of the eighties, and those guys had a healthy respect

682
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 2: for each other and it never got to this level.

683
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 2: And of course there wasn't social media back then. So

684
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 2: my question is simple, I just want your reaction on

685
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 2: how the NBA WNBA could start off with a bang

686
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 2: for all the wrong reasons, all the wrong reasons. They

687
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 2: might have jumped the shark. Now, listen, I respect the

688
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: athleticism and the competition and the games are competitive. I

689
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 2: don't watch the league. They've given me no reason to

690
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: watch the league anymore. And so you know, miss me

691
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 2: on that one. But you might like it. You may

692
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 2: think I'm full of crap. I want to you know,

693
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 2: the best conversations is when not everybody agrees. So eight

694
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,439
Speaker 2: seven seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine eight

695
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 2: seven seven ninety nine on Fox. The bottom line is

696
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 2: this okay? Is the WNBA imploding? Have they jumped the shark?

697
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 2: Are they self destructing? And I just gave you all

698
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 2: the reasons why and all the parties involved. RG three,

699
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 2: Ryan Clark, Britney Griner, Ryffs. It never ends, just never ends,

700
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 2: never missed a chance or wait a minute, maybe is

701
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 2: this good for the league because I'm talking about it.

702
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 2: The second thing is there are some cool, good NFL

703
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 2: winter meetings Tuesday, check that Spring league meetings, and there

704
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 2: were two things that were talking about. And I want

705
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 2: to get your thoughts. I'm very glad the tush push survived.

706
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 2: They voted for it to stay. Give it up to

707
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 2: Jason Kelsey. Give it up to the Eagles, who made

708
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 2: a compelling case. I never believed it was fair just

709
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 2: because one team perfected this play, they should have to

710
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 2: suffer because not everybody else has figured it out. Buffalo's tried,

711
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 2: New England's tried, Cincinnati's tried, the Raiders tried, Hell nobody

712
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 2: the Chargers. No one can do it, So figure it out.

713
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 2: I'm glad to stayed. The other thing that's weird to

714
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 2: me connect the Dodger mean that the NFL owners passed

715
00:38:53,800 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 2: a resolution Tuesday allowing the NFL players to participate participate

716
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 2: in flag football during the twenty twenty eight Summer Olympics

717
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles. And guess who said, at age fifty

718
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,919
Speaker 2: he might come out, Tom Brady, do you care about

719
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 2: flag football in the Summer Olympics. Some of the players

720
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 2: seem enthusiastic about it. I want to get your thoughts

721
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 2: on the toitch push and in the NFL and flag

722
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 2: football in the Olympics.

723
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 7: I don't know.

724
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 2: I don't get it. I don't get it. Bring curling back,

725
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 2: make it a summer game now, that might be more fun.

726
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 2: So there you have it. The midnight hour that is

727
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 2: right before you and Angel Reeves, Caitlin Clark, you know

728
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 2: what's going on. You don't need me to spell it

729
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 2: out for you. I think they're jumping the shark. I

730
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 2: think they're imploding. I don't think this is good. They're

731
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 2: on their way to lose another forty million dollars this year.

732
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 2: Maybe you don't agree with that, And tell me whose

733
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 2: side you're on, tell me your thoughts, enlighten me. And then,

734
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 2: of course, the NFL Spring meetings Tuesday, the push stays.

735
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 2: Are you glad it's staying? And what are your thoughts

736
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 2: on the flag football in the Olympics eight seven, seven

737
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 2: ninety nine On Fox it's the men that on the

738
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 2: Bernie Frattle Show. Keep it locked.

739
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: Listen no Fox Sports Radio.

740
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 2: That's right, you heard the man. The Bernie Fradle Show

741
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 2: keeps rolling right along. Or come to your line for

742
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio studios here in Las Vegas will

743
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 2: take up to three m Pacific, six am Eastern. And uh,

744
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 2: we've got Caitlin Clark, Angel Reese, We've got the w

745
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 2: NBA is it imploding? And then we've got the NFL

746
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 2: The tush push survives your thoughts and NFL flag football?

747
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, Yep, real simple, it's a midnight hour. Okay, peep,

748
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 2: you know what to do? I enjoy your calls, hopefully

749
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 2: as much as you do. Let's start with Jim in Massachusetts. Jim,

750
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 2: welcome in to lead us off tonight on some highly

751
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 2: charged the subject matter.

752
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 8: Let me tell you, Bernie Caitlin Clock is the real

753
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 8: deal and Angel Reese is just a big phony. She

754
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 8: has no talent, you know, all she cares about is

755
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 8: social media and doing all this other stuff. I'm surprised

756
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 8: that the ownership of Chicago hasn't sat her down and

757
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 8: straightened her out, because I'll tell you I'll.

758
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 2: Make this prediction.

759
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 8: When her contract's up, I don't think she'll get renewed,

760
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 8: and I don't think any other tab will pick her

761
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 8: up because no one wants the baggage. There's one thing

762
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 8: about taking the baggage. If you're putting up thirty five

763
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 8: a night and ten rebounds, you know, and you're winning.

764
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 8: When you're not winning and you're causing all these problems,

765
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 8: I mean, it's time to cut her a lot.

766
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 9: You know.

767
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 2: Jim, I'm glad you mentioned a number stand on the line,

768
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 2: because I thought this was the year that we'd be

769
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 2: talking about the product on the floor. If you so

770
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 2: desire hear this out, did you know Caitlin Clark is

771
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 2: the fastest player in WNBA history to reach seven hundred

772
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 2: and fifty points, two hundred and fifty rebounds, and two

773
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty assists. And she just passed Chelsea Gray

774
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 2: in all time double doubles by a guard. No one's

775
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 2: talking about the product on the floor. It's all social

776
00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 2: media catfighting.

777
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 8: You got the floor, That's what I mean. She's the

778
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 8: real deal. I remember when Tarassi came out. Oh no,

779
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 8: she's gonna be playing with women now, it's all going

780
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 8: to be changed.

781
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 10: Yeah.

782
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 6: Well she she schooled.

783
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 8: You every time. She saw it enough the way you retired.

784
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 8: So think about that while you're sitting out there and

785
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,479
Speaker 8: la la la. And the thing is, the rest aren't

786
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 8: even protecting her anymore. They still haven't done anything.

787
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 2: Okay, another good stat again, Jim, hang on the line.

788
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 2: There are objective truths and there are personal feelings. I'm

789
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 2: gonna give you another stat. Of all the flagrant fouls

790
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 2: called in the entire league last year, one in five

791
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: were against Caitlyn Clark. There's any players in the league,

792
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 2: One in five were against Caitlin Clark. Again, you got

793
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 2: the floor.

794
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 8: There you go, explained, Go ahead. Yeah, and as far

795
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 8: as this woman you know that runs the league and everything,

796
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 8: it is clear, it is clear that she hasn't done

797
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 8: anything to straighten out that league you know where you know,

798
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 8: to where they make money and not need money from

799
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 8: the NBA. Now, you would think that those owners of

800
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 8: all those teams would agree, but they're all afraid to

801
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 8: say something because it's supposedly a minority gay league and

802
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 8: that's the way they want to keep it. And when

803
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 8: you have someone come in who's straight and who's got

804
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 8: talent and doesn't get involved with the bs you know

805
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 8: from from sports and from you know, the internet and

806
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 8: all that, it holds their head high.

807
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,240
Speaker 9: They don't know what to do with it.

808
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 6: So as you just walk in there.

809
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 8: Hey, you don't get the fifty million unless you fix up,

810
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 8: you know, clean up your act.

811
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 3: And walk out.

812
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 11: That's all.

813
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:39,240
Speaker 8: It's gonna take money.

814
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 12: Talk quickly to help walk.

815
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 2: I appreciate you real quickly. You push, push your gladys back.

816
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 2: Not everybody is I am.

817
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 8: You Bernie example, Play defense, Play defense to where they

818
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 8: don't get it.

819
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 2: That's right, right, that's right. That's a good, good point.

820
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 2: If they only do when they need a yard or less,

821
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 2: so play defense. Jim grad is always glad to have

822
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,240
Speaker 2: you leading off tonight another fan favorite. Ladies and gentlemen,

823
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 2: boys and girls, please make way for the legend in Charleston. Hi, Jerome,

824
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 2: how are you this evening this morning?

825
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 7: Hey?

826
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 9: Hey, Bernie, you just jealous because Cam I mean, Andreuries

827
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 9: has a ten thousand dollars halfbag and you don't.

828
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 8: You're just chellous.

829
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,720
Speaker 2: I can buy one tomorrow if I wanted it, Jerome,

830
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,760
Speaker 2: right now, I can buy one online while I'm talking

831
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 2: to you, if I wanted a badness. But you caught

832
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 2: me your damn Jim, how did you know, Jerome? I'm like, damn,

833
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 2: Look look at that Gucci, look at that coach person. Man,

834
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 2: I wish the hell I had.

835
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 9: That go ahead? Yeah right, hey, look here, what do

836
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 9: you want from me? You got you got clad football

837
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 9: in the Olympics, you got cat fights with men and women. Okay,

838
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 9: what do you want for me?

839
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 13: Bernie?

840
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 9: I mean, I can't not You've got three or three basketball.

841
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 9: There's a better chance I'm gonna watch that before I

842
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 9: watched it up here and Bokay.

843
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 2: But here's here's the thing, Jerome. This was supposed to

844
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 2: be the year they got over the hump and just

845
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 2: talk about the product on the floor and see what

846
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 2: they can do. And the exact opposite has happened. We're

847
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 2: five days in the league and you know, you know

848
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,919
Speaker 2: where I'm going with this is listen, are they gonna

849
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 2: jump the shark or they self destructing? We know they're

850
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: gonna lose money, that's a given, but you know they're

851
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 2: trying to create critical mass. Go ahead, Joe, I'm sorry.

852
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 9: Oh let me say. It must be nice to be

853
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 9: able to blow a duel like that, because it.

854
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 3: Wouldn't be me.

855
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 9: I don't live like Hey, I've never lived in that neighborhood.

856
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 9: Throwing to weigh money like that. You don't know how

857
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 9: nuts that drives me. But I see people throwing with

858
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 9: really lost fifty million. That's important me and people want

859
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 9: to watch that. Let come on, I'm not look, I

860
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 9: was born tonight but not last night. But then again,

861
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 9: it's my favorite comment about me on park from the

862
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 9: guys there. People like me, what's wrong with the world. Well,

863
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 9: I'm that's because then I'm guilty. You'll kid, because I'm

864
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 9: not watching the WMDY.

865
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 2: Hey, hold on there, fella, if that cut you come

866
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 2: after Jerome, you come after, Bernie, I got your back, Jerome,

867
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 2: Thank you, Bernie. Always appreciate you Jerome and your enthusiasm.

868
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 2: Hold it down there in Charleston, South Carolina. It's welcome

869
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 2: and a gentleman, a legend on Twitter that goes by

870
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 2: spocks read and give it up to you. Tonight you

871
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 2: said a respectful and thoughtful Memorial Day to everyone. I

872
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 2: was remiss. We are the land of the free because

873
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 2: of the brave spox Weed. What do you got forrest

874
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 2: to night up there in Oregon?

875
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Bernie, thank you for the for the props.

876
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 12: And I have to dance.

877
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 3: Around my my my stuff because there's there's things that

878
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 3: I would like to say, but I got to make

879
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 3: sure I don't go too far.

880
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 2: I know you know my stick.

881
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 14: But the thing is is that this holy is descended

882
00:46:55,360 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 14: into jealousy, jealousy, jealousy. Here's a person that is elevating

883
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 14: the whole league, but they continue to beat the crap

884
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 14: out of her because they're so jealous of her, and

885
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 14: they're they're acting like they're very uncivilized, if.

886
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. And we know all that.

887
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 2: So the question is is this going to cost? Is

888
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 2: this are they self destructing before our eyes because it

889
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: won't go away? Or you may think not you, but

890
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 2: someone may think, hey man, this is actually good for league.

891
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 2: I think if well, if you, if you can't sell

892
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 2: the product on the floor. At some point, someone's got

893
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 2: to get tired of losing forty minutes.

894
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 15: Depends that they do.

895
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 3: They want the same audience that keeps losing the money

896
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 3: and losing the money and losing the money. Here was

897
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:47,280
Speaker 3: a person that totally revitalized the league. They were super,

898
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 3: super good. They outclassed, you know, not because they meant to,

899
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,919
Speaker 3: but because they're so dang good and all the rest

900
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 3: of these gangster types that maybe someone needs to be dumped,

901
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,720
Speaker 3: but they just they can't stand the fact that somebody

902
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 3: is coming in that that's.

903
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 2: Abotherly Claire, So again, you you're kind of you're on

904
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 2: the side of this makes no sense, right, got it?

905
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 3: It makes no sense.

906
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 2: Eventually, fair, I'm not beggin. I'm not going to lead

907
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 2: the witness. All right, let's jump to the toush push.

908
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 2: Are you glad I got voted back?

909
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 3: Oh heck yeah. I love toushes and I love pushes,

910
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,479
Speaker 3: and I think pushes are even better than.

911
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 2: You've been into it. I can see, I can see

912
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 2: you've been into Grandpa's Cops or Tonight's bock. Hey, by

913
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 2: the way, real quickly, flag football? What's that? What am

914
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 2: I missing that? That sounds stupid to me.

915
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 3: I don't see any any respectful lineman, any respectful football

916
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 3: player that wants to play.

917
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that we're gonna develop that rivalry against China.

918
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 2: They got a hell of a flag football team.

919
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, great, well let's let's smash them in the tag. Okay, yeah,

920
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 3: let's go ahead, go ahead and take their little ribbans.

921
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 2: Right, we're gonna I ran in round one. Here's a clue.

922
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 2: Lay the points?

923
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh gosh, like forty five? What they need with

924
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 3: sort of you know, back to the tushe push. So

925
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 3: many needs to figure out how to clone ram Man

926
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 3: from he Man in the universe and they can just go.

927
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,720
Speaker 15: Whoop on you know, any.

928
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 3: Football players that tries to get a couple of yards.

929
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 3: If anybody wants to know who Ramman is, look it up.

930
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 3: He's a hero from Masters of the Universe. It's just terrific.

931
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 2: All right, great stuff, spots, Enjoy your libations tonight up

932
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 2: there in Oregon. Andrey in Massachusetts. Welcome back in. I

933
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 2: know you don't call every week, but when you do,

934
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 2: it's usually very thoughtful.

935
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 16: Bernie, thanks so much for taking the call. Listen, this

936
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 16: is a conversation about the w NBA. First of all,

937
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 16: we got to start off real real sports fans, real hoopers,

938
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 16: and then includes the NBA ball players support and appreciate

939
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,919
Speaker 16: the WNBA. That's why we got Tyreek Talliburton, who's given

940
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 16: my New York makes fixed right fix right now. Okay,

941
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,720
Speaker 16: so that's the whole nother story for a different, different

942
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 16: topic in terms of what's going on. But you see

943
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,439
Speaker 16: Tyreek Caliburton at the Indiana Games supporting the whole team,

944
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 16: showing respect to Caitlyn Clark to this situation, the gift

945
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 16: that keeps on giving, right with with Caitlyn Clark and

946
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,879
Speaker 16: Angel Reese and there, you know, it's not even really

947
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 16: what happened on the court because the foul its helf

948
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 16: was a common vul i referee, Let's be clear, it

949
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 16: was a common foul, and Angel Reath you know, pushed

950
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 16: off on the rebound action before that, and you know

951
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,479
Speaker 16: Caitlyn Clark stopped there from scoring and that two don't

952
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 16: like each other and great, you know, and then we

953
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 16: have to have the whole culture war criticisms that come

954
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 16: in after that and spinning out of control, you know,

955
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 16: in every single direction. But let's get back to the point,

956
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 16: Bernie WNBA is healthy. It's an important part of our

957
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 16: overall basketball sport in this country. It's under the late

958
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,959
Speaker 16: great leadership of David Stern and then take Adam Silver

959
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 16: taking up the mans that we have this league and

960
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 16: so the sports healthy can.

961
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 17: Continue to be healthy.

962
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 16: And that's the bottom line on that.

963
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 8: And I'm interested in that he pushed back you had.

964
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 16: Now in terms of push back, let's get to the

965
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,240
Speaker 16: touch push and if thel did the right thing. Okay,

966
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 16: we need the toush pushing football Philadelphia Eagles. This is

967
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 16: monoy mono, Bernie, this is sumo wrestlers. We get down

968
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 16: for the crown, you know. And by the way, stun

969
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 16: that the Green Bay Packers of all organizations would have

970
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,919
Speaker 16: won to bring up a charge against the pushbush because

971
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,240
Speaker 16: the dead franchise that that had had it told everything

972
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 16: built on three yards and a cloud of dust. Okay,

973
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 16: Vince Lombardi would be very displeased to know the Green

974
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 16: Bay Packers would have wanted to bring a charge against

975
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 16: the Pushbush. Given this, the rich hit three of the

976
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 16: Green Bay Packers will stop that nonsense. In conclusion, black football,

977
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 16: it's taking over the universe.

978
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 9: Bernie, what pick a ball?

979
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 2: I hear that. No, I hear that. But we really

980
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 2: want NFL players in the Olympics playing against Russia. I mean,

981
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:35,280
Speaker 2: this is stupid. I think, Artie very last.

982
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 16: Week you got to strike where the iron is hot.

983
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,439
Speaker 16: And I'm not for this pity pat you know, two

984
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 16: hand touch, you know, not actually having a Pro Bowl

985
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,240
Speaker 16: because nobody wants to get hurt. But in real time,

986
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 16: black football is a real phenomenon, just like pick a

987
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 16: ball is a phenomenon for maybe the older folks, specifically

988
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 16: at the youth level, and it's coming up from there.

989
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 10: Black football.

990
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 2: That's fair. Okay, that's fair. That's fair. Maybe this is

991
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 2: a larger thanks so much, Andre, thoughtful. Like I said,

992
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 2: this is perhaps one of those situations where there is

993
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 2: an ulterior motive and another agenda here to grow that game,

994
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 2: because the NFL is very much behind NFL flag football

995
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 2: or a flag football among the youth, especially girls, who

996
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 2: play a pretty good brand of flag football. All Right,

997
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 2: the Midnight Hour is just getting started. No one gets

998
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 2: turned away. I appreciate your patients. John in New Hampshire,

999
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 2: Greg and Texas, Kyle in Vegas, Hugh on the five,

1000
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 2: and Alan at Saint Louis. We're getting all you. Please

1001
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 2: be patient. No one gets turned away. I want to

1002
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 2: hear what you've got to say. You already know the topics.

1003
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark Andeur Reese, the WNBA and then the tush

1004
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 2: push and flag football. I'm Bernie frattle Wire come to

1005
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 2: your line from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios.

1006
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 2: Keep it locked. You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show

1007
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio.

1008
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

1009
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 4: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio

1010
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:02,439
Speaker 4: dot com and within the iHeartRadio search FSR to listen live.

1011
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 2: All right, we are back on the Bernie Fraddles Show.

1012
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Midnight Hour is off and running. Cars

1013
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 2: have been great. We've got many more to get to.

1014
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 2: We're gonna get to all of you, and no one's

1015
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 2: getting turned away, even if it spills past one am Pacific.

1016
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 2: You know there's an old saying most human beings suffer

1017
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 2: from one or two pains the paint of discipline or

1018
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 2: the paint of regret. The difference is discipline weighs ounces,

1019
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 2: while regret weighs tons. Will the WNBA regret not stepping

1020
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 2: into this and doing something about the craziness going on

1021
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 2: as it diverts from the product on the floor? Back

1022
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 2: after the phones, John in New Hampshire, John, thanks for

1023
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 2: hanging on. Welcome to the Bernie Frattle Show.

1024
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: Hey, how are yea well?

1025
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 12: Thank you good?

1026
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 10: Yeah, So, honestly, I was watching the TV today and

1027
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 10: I turned on the XSL football game instead of a

1028
00:53:54,320 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 10: women's WNBA game. Caitlin Clark is definitely talented, but it

1029
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 10: just like as a big sports fan, doesn't interest me

1030
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 10: too much.

1031
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 2: M suir enough, You're you're in a you're in a

1032
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 2: massive majority there, my friend. So I mean, do you

1033
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 2: have any opinion then about this feud that just won't end?

1034
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 8: Well, it definitely draws attention.

1035
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 10: I mean it's it's I tune in sometimes to kind

1036
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:22,839
Speaker 10: of like take a look at what's going on over there.

1037
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 10: But honestly, I mean, if you don't have like that rivalry,

1038
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 10: you know, you're not going to have people interested.

1039
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 2: So yeah, but is it a Revalie, John when Caitlin

1040
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,959
Speaker 2: Clark is six and one against Angel Reese and it's

1041
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 2: just they're trying to.

1042
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:38,879
Speaker 18: Go ahead, right, Yeah.

1043
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 10: No, I think like all the commentators all like Sports Center,

1044
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 10: you know, broadcasters, they're kind of making like a bigger

1045
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 10: deal out of it, you know how.

1046
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 8: They you know, get into things, and I don't know.

1047
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 10: I think they're making a all.

1048
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 2: Right, man, that could be that could be a too

1049
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 2: real quickly the tousch push. Are you glad it survived?

1050
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,280
Speaker 10: I'm a Packers fan. I was a little bit surprised

1051
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 10: that they brought it up and tried to ban it.

1052
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 10: But what other teams have been successful doing it? Like

1053
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 10: you see cast down?

1054
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 2: Maybe, but well nobody really and that's why, and believe

1055
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 2: it or I I got a lot of NFL context.

1056
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 2: What happens, John, is they tap the Green Bay Packers

1057
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 2: on the shoulder because they don't have an owner. As

1058
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 2: you know, they're owned by the stockholders and there's like

1059
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 2: thirty thousand of them, so no one owner had to

1060
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 2: carry that torch and be excoriated. It barely passed on

1061
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 2: the volt But anyway, you're right, no one else has

1062
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 2: been successful at it, So are you glad that it survived.

1063
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 10: You know, I hate seeing it against my team, but

1064
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 10: I think if they can do it successfully, I mean,

1065
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 10: good for them. I mean it's sport, so you got

1066
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 10: to be factful and uh smart, and it's a good

1067
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 10: play when you're on the goal line or you're sports

1068
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 10: and one you know you hate it. But I just

1069
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 10: want to say one more thing about flag football. Sure,

1070
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 10: like paulm grady, like, I don't think you know, like

1071
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 10: you're going to get probably guys on the end of

1072
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 10: their career that might volunteer to go play. You know,

1073
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 10: you're not getting paid for it. But I think first

1074
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 10: you're going to get a guy that really played flag football,

1075
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:06,439
Speaker 10: mobile quarterback that you know can move around.

1076
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 18: You're not you don't you know what there.

1077
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 2: I appreciate your thoughts. Don't be a stranger, John, and

1078
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 2: I will say this, believe it or not. There have

1079
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:17,240
Speaker 2: been a lot of big name players justin Jefferson, Joel Burrow,

1080
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,399
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase. I think they've all said, man, hey, we've

1081
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 2: always wanted to be part of the Olympics, so you

1082
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 2: might see a little bit more participation. I'm not saying

1083
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:30,959
Speaker 2: you're wrong, but I think this may be a little

1084
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 2: more popular. I'm just questioning it, but I think it

1085
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 2: was Andre from Massachusetts who said, hey, this they're really

1086
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 2: growing the game as a whole on the youth level.

1087
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 2: So maybe this helps that Gregon, Texas is up next.

1088
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 2: Welcome into the Bernie Fratisher.

1089
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 19: Hi, Greg, how's a good one?

1090
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 6: Good man?

1091
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 19: My voice is not so good? But anyway, Okay. On

1092
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 19: the Caitlin and the WBA, I think they're trying to

1093
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 19: take too much of a page out of professional wrestling,

1094
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 19: and it's in sport is a game of individuals, is disjointed.

1095
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 19: There's no real interesting teams. It's all focused on the individuals.

1096
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 19: As far as Caitlin versus Angel. Come on, man, there's

1097
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 19: no contests. But you know they gotta do what God

1098
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 19: preserve the game.

1099
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 2: Well listen, And maybe this is part of some larger

1100
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 2: conspiracy theory that I'm missing, And you may be right,

1101
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 2: but I think this is all driven by a certain

1102
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 2: agenda and we'll just leave it there. Your thoughts on

1103
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 2: the tooth.

1104
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 13: Push too push, Well, gays worked for me on electric

1105
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 13: football fifty years ago, so man, I'm all for it,

1106
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 13: you know.

1107
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 19: And so you can stop it on a tutor bod

1108
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 19: don't come to me and ask me a solve problem.

1109
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 2: Hey, good stuff, Greg. I appreciate you man, thank you.

1110
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 2: I didn't ask you about flag football. Sorry about that.

1111
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 2: Think there should be a toush push in flag football.

1112
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 2: We'll see if they have it there. Kyle and Vangas,

1113
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 2: what's up? Kyle?

1114
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 13: What's going on?

1115
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 18: Burnie them off this weekend?

1116
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 9: So you know, good?

1117
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 18: Got a little R and R really quick?

1118
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 9: Can I do this?

1119
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 18: And I know, I know it's probably gonna get dumb,

1120
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 18: but shout out to my babies. They're starting off their

1121
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 18: educational career.

1122
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 2: Their congratulations where they're going to school.

1123
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 18: They're they're they're elementary kids, but they started.

1124
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 2: A beautiful so hey, I think that. I think that's

1125
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 2: fantastic elementary schools with fourteen best years of my life.

1126
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 2: So you're a good audience. You're good at its. Continue on, Kyle,

1127
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 2: So let's let's.

1128
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Speaker 18: Let's get into it. Because i'most sart to backward. I'm

1129
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 18: gonna go with the flag football. Flag football, like the

1130
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 18: earlier caller said, it is an up and coming thing.

1131
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 18: I'm seeing more and more kids play it. They're actually

1132
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 18: in a semi professional league that does it they go

1133
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 18: around throughout each city, they play it on a national level.

1134
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 18: It's being recognized in some ways. But I do have

1135
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 18: to agree though with you what you said earlier too,

1136
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 18: like who we're going to play? What what teams are

1137
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 18: actually outside of the USA? What are we playing the

1138
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 18: rugby teams of these other countries?

1139
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 2: I mean exactly, But I do agree a couple of years,

1140
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 2: you're like the second or third caller to enlighten me

1141
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 2: now that this may be part of a larger agenda

1142
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 2: to groll the game of through flag football.

1143
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 18: The just push really don't care, man, it's part of

1144
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 18: the game. Stop it if you Bernie, you know me

1145
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 18: and I say with the basics, if you can't stop it,

1146
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 18: don't knock it. I said, that's winning and doing all

1147
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 18: that stuff like that. So if you can't stop them there,

1148
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 18: then you can't complain about it.

1149
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 12: Stop to play.

1150
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 8: If you're able to stop it.

1151
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 18: You stopped the wildcat when Rexline implemented it. You stopped

1152
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 18: all the the RPO stuff that was working at one point.

1153
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 18: It's time they stopped that.

1154
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 15: Somehow.

1155
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 18: They didn't have to change the rules. So let's not

1156
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 18: get in there.

1157
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 8: And play to win the game.

1158
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 18: Exactly exactly. You you know my standpoint when it comes down.

1159
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 2: To the NBA. Yeah, let's go.

1160
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 18: So you already know what I'm gonna say. Just what's

1161
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 18: putting that roller derby at this point, because again I'm

1162
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 18: not saying every time at this point, put put a

1163
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 18: helmet on each one of them, give them some some

1164
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 18: elbow pads, some meat hats, and most takes and mouth

1165
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 18: pieces which they already wear, and just let them all

1166
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 18: around and just beat the crop out of each.

1167
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 9: Other at this point.

1168
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's basically what's happening, by the way, and shirt,

1169
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 2: Yeah you're you're not far off, Kyle.

1170
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 18: But but you have a beautiful weekend. Again, remembering all

1171
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 18: the veterans out there, anybody veterans in their family, we

1172
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 18: appreciate the ultimate sacrifice for this country. Thank y'all.

1173
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 2: So well done, Kyle. Good luck with your kiddies starting school.

1174
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 2: Those are great memories. Uh And I would say this again, Kyle,

1175
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 2: thank you. We are the land of the Free because

1176
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 2: of the brave you on the five. Welcome in you.

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01:00:59,200 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 2: How are you tonight?

1178
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 20: Yes, sir?

1179
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 19: Wow?

1180
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 9: Wow wow you said it electric?

1181
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:06,479
Speaker 2: What an electric show?

1182
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 21: Everybody is killing it, starting with Jim calling out the

1183
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 21: Gay League. They got my effect. That was the greatest

1184
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 21: take I've heard.

1185
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 2: It was so good, so good.

1186
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 21: I want to say a few things before I get started.

1187
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 21: I'm noticing that you're, you know, some of the themes

1188
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 21: that are ongoing in your show, that you're using some

1189
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 21: of the terminology that I have been saying, like product

1190
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 21: on the field versus you.

1191
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 18: Know, personality.

1192
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 21: I heard you say that. I heard you say jumped

1193
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 21: the shark about three times already. I introduced that to you.

1194
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 2: You know, I'm wondering if that's your reference people get anymore?

1195
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 2: Do you think they do?

1196
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 7: No?

1197
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 21: I think that they Well, guess what I'm actually I

1198
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 21: just heard it on another show, not like the other day,

1199
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 21: like maybe like boom, it's back, just because it's already

1200
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 21: for me.

1201
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 2: What I did you I said, imploding, self destructing and

1202
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 2: up in the chart on the reagent, I said said

1203
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 2: jump to shark. And I'm glad you picked up on that, because,

1204
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 2: if I'm being honest to you, that to me is

1205
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 2: the most prevalent one. What it means is there are

1206
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 2: people I know that might have given the league a

1207
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 2: chance this year. Now they're not going to watch it.

1208
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 2: Because what are we doing here? Because you got before

1209
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 2: my friend.

1210
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 20: Yeah, well okay, so on that.

1211
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 8: So this is interesting too.

1212
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 21: Bernie, that the last time the topic well this been

1213
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 21: ongoing topic w the NBA stuff, right, And so I

1214
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 21: don't know if it was two weeks ago or last week.

1215
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 21: I was I was ending with the w NBA topic

1216
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 21: and you cut me to those times just to go on.

1217
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 22: And I was going to say that.

1218
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 21: We got magic and bird that's what they're trying to do.

1219
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 21: And that's what you said earlier tonight.

1220
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:50,919
Speaker 13: That's what my thought.

1221
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 2: That was theoretical back when she Angel Reese was still

1222
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 2: at LSU and Caitlin Clark and they had both just

1223
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 2: gotten drafted, but it was always going to be theoretical.

1224
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 2: Go ahead.

1225
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, Well they really fed it up, didn't they. I mean,

1226
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 7: because yes, yeah, I mean they just like it got

1227
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 7: handed to the leaders.

1228
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 21: Of the w n b A to just run with it,

1229
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 21: and they just and they just don't.

1230
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 19: Know what to do.

1231
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 2: Thank you. You just hit. You just hit on a

1232
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 2: key point there. You where is the commissioner, where are

1233
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 2: the leaders? Where is somebody who's going to stand up

1234
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 2: and say, hey, you think this is really helping us

1235
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 2: do you agree this is being enabled by the people

1236
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 2: at the top or they're just spineless.

1237
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 21: H Well, I really think that it's an irrelevant league,

1238
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 21: is what's the other thing that's going on?

1239
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 7: And the NBA doesn't have a problem chucking money at

1240
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 7: it because ultimately.

1241
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 21: If there's a few people who are into the women's league,

1242
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 21: it's going to bring more viewers to the NBA, more

1243
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 21: people involved, you know, more people just you know, on

1244
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 21: board with this basketball in general. It's like a lost

1245
01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 21: leader basically.

1246
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 2: Right, interesting thought, that's interesting thought.

1247
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 3: That's what it is, you know.

1248
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 21: But yeah, so they do it, but they obviously don't

1249
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 21: know what they're doing running the league.

1250
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 20: It's that simple, right.

1251
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 2: What the hell they only lose forty million a year.

1252
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 2: I don't know what you do for a living. You

1253
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 2: don't have to tell me. But I get the sense

1254
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 2: you're a businessman of some sort who who can lose

1255
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 2: millions a year for twenty five years later. Hold on,

1256
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 2: what the hell I would just lose another forty million

1257
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 2: this year. I've never had that luxury.

1258
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 17: That's called the lost leader.

1259
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 21: So you have a lot of money making making a

1260
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 21: lot of money doing something else, so you can you know,

1261
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:39,439
Speaker 21: attract people like giving away hot dollars for free.

1262
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 2: Basically, now that's a lost leader. This is this is

1263
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 2: the Titanic in my opinion. Yeah, hey, real quickly, Hugh,

1264
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 2: let's get your thoughts on the toush push, buddy. I'm

1265
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 2: glad it survived.

1266
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 21: You yeah, tell you unanimous. That's right, everyone, it's unanimous.

1267
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 9: I find it interesting that I'm.

1268
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 21: A bush bush back in the day when it wasn't allowed. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

1269
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 21: But you know, it's a football play. Is everybody lined

1270
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 21: up the way they're supposed to be? Are they breaking

1271
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 21: the rules and lining up? You know?

1272
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 2: Then you know what the league's case was. They're concerned

1273
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 2: about player safety, zero data on injuries.

1274
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 7: Which, by the way, we're not talking about flag football yet,

1275
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 7: but that's a good lead into flag football about insturies.

1276
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 21: But okay, but I'm not going to go to flag

1277
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 21: football yet. So there's only one team in.

1278
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 8: The NFL that's all in on it.

1279
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 15: And they're mastering it.

1280
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 21: Every other team that they're like, they'll try it out,

1281
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Speaker 21: and you mentioned the teams that are You're like, yeah,

1282
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 21: they try it, they're not as good.

1283
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 7: The thing is, is it this opposed to be a

1284
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 7: Passing League, and so I applaud Philadelphia for saying, you

1285
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 7: know what, let's just crush this. We don't care what

1286
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 7: the look is, because the look of the NFL is

1287
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 7: supposed to be more wide open half.

1288
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 21: It is you.

1289
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 2: But consider this. This come from somebody who never played

1290
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 2: football past high school. Baseball is my sport. But consider this.

1291
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 2: You every now and then, you just need to get

1292
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 2: one yard to move the change or score. You just

1293
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 2: got to win your battle against Simon in frontie. There's

1294
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 2: no science to it. You got the last word. I

1295
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 2: got to get there. I always enjoy your calls. I

1296
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 2: got to get dinner callers. You got the last word.

1297
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 8: Go ahead, okay, all right, give me three more seconds go.

1298
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 21: That's you know, it's a brilliant move.

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01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 7: Bush push get one yard and push push get one yard.

1300
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 7: Brilliant Okay, last football. It's a great sport to play,

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01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 7: it's not great to watch. It will look like the

1302
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 7: Battle of the Network and have a feel of the

1303
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 7: Battle of the Network stars on television.

1304
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 2: Right, Oh, I love it. Jesus over it, fire right on.

1305
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 22: Finally, the last thing I'm going.

1306
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 21: To say is I played for I went to Catholic

1307
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 21: school St.

1308
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 15: Brunos.

1309
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 21: In eighth grade, we played our rival Saint Mary Ann's

1310
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 21: last play of the game, I'm a receiver. We had

1311
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 21: this play called the Chris Cross.

1312
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 7: Handoff, two receivers on both ends doing a square in.

1313
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 7: I topped the ball, I handed it off to the

1314
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 7: other dude and you ran for a touchdown and he

1315
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 7: won the game. That's a great game to play, but

1316
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 7: not going to be fun to watch.

1317
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 2: Appreciate you, Hugh, as always checking in and for what

1318
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 2: it's worth. The reason it's not going to be fun

1319
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 2: to watch is football is a collision sport. It's not

1320
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 2: a contact sport. Basketball is a contact sport. Ballroom dancing

1321
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 2: is a contact sport. Football is a collision sport. And

1322
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 2: when you take that element away, you take away a

1323
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 2: huge part of football, which is intimidation and attrition. That's

1324
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 2: just a fact. There was a time fifteen years ago

1325
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 2: when ESPN played the Big Hits on Sunday Night Sunday

1326
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 2: Night Football, and I forget what it was called. The

1327
01:07:57,800 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 2: segment had a name, and someone will tweet it to me.

1328
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 2: But anyway, onward and upward the callers are fantastic. Alan

1329
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 2: and Saint Louis Gary in South Dakota Man Well, Guardina, Stephen,

1330
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 2: Kansas City, Brock and Alberta. We're getting to all you.

1331
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 2: Please be patient. I want to give everybody their fair share,

1332
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 2: and if we go past one am, I don't care.

1333
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 2: I want to hear from everybody. Thanks for taking the

1334
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 2: time to call, and we are off and running again

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01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 2: on another midnight hour. I'm Bernie Fraddle Company line from

1336
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 2: Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio Studios. Keep it locked. You

1337
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:30,679
Speaker 2: are listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

1338
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 2: We're back at the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio.

1339
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:37,560
Speaker 2: The Bennette Hour continues. Based on the call bank, it

1340
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 2: looks like we will spill past one am Pacific, four

1341
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 2: am Eastern, and that's fine with me. I want everybody

1342
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 2: who wants a chance to get in tonight to get in.

1343
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 2: So far, with regards to the WNBA, i've heard no

1344
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,599
Speaker 2: one say, hey, man, this is good for the league.

1345
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 2: No such thing as bad PR. Well, there is such

1346
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:58,560
Speaker 2: a thing as bad PR. But hey, we're talking about it.

1347
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phone. Alan and Saint Louis

1348
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 2: joins us. Allan, thanks for your patience.

1349
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 23: Well, good morning, Bertie, Good morning, sir Man. Let me

1350
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:09,719
Speaker 23: tell you, the DC subjects are really good. You're knocking

1351
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 23: out the park every week.

1352
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1353
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:16,720
Speaker 23: I blamed the w NBA for this. They could have

1354
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 23: had Indiana play New York. They could have had Indiana

1355
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 23: play Asia Wilson in Las Vegas. But no, they put

1356
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:29,599
Speaker 23: Indiana against Chicago the first game.

1357
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 22: Of the year.

1358
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 23: And what are we talking about. They didn't even let

1359
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 23: thisw NBA season breathe before this happened. You know, this

1360
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 23: is not a rivalry.

1361
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 2: What a great insight. This is a great I'm gonna

1362
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 2: let you continue, But you said something really interesting, Alan,

1363
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:51,720
Speaker 2: because guess who Indiana played Saturday. They played the New

1364
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 2: York Liberty and lost by two. It was a good game.

1365
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:55,560
Speaker 2: I didn't watch it, but I bet it was a

1366
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 2: good game.

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01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 23: Continue on, Allen, Yeah, I mean, you know they're trying

1368
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 23: to create something that's not Remember now with Bird and Magic.

1369
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 23: The two guys are likable. The two teams were good,

1370
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:13,680
Speaker 23: and that's the difference. You know, every you know in

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01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 23: a face it a lot of people don't like Caitlin Clark.

1372
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 2: That's true. I've heard that too.

1373
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 23: You know, whether it's jealousy or whatever. The Fountal line

1374
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 23: is she's not well liked. And this is amongst the

1375
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 23: w NBA players. This is not even the fan bases

1376
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:34,440
Speaker 23: out there. And you know, and I think I think Angelies,

1377
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:38,600
Speaker 23: you know, inter faces with social media. Now, once she

1378
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,599
Speaker 23: leaves that, once she leaves at court, you can't stop

1379
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 23: her from putting stuff on a personal page.

1380
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 2: The question is is she benefited from that? Do you

1381
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 2: think that really helps her the league? You're right, this

1382
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 2: is America. I don't want censorship, but I will say this.

1383
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 2: You have to tell me if her actions are beneficial

1384
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 2: to her in the league or not.

1385
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 23: I think until until her team gets better. You know,

1386
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,440
Speaker 23: people are going to say she's just talking.

1387
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 19: But what is she doing?

1388
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 23: So it all goes hand in hand. You know, if

1389
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 23: she were second team, if she was the first team

1390
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,560
Speaker 23: the w NBA, people would look past a lot of this.

1391
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 19: But she's not.

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01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 23: And I disagree with one of the previous callers when

1393
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 23: he said, you know, she's not that good. She's a

1394
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 23: rebounding machine, so she has a place in the w NBA.

1395
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:29,759
Speaker 23: But I think some of these creative rivalry sometimes robberies

1396
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 23: have to come natural, and I think if if they're

1397
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:38,640
Speaker 23: forced on people, especially somebody who really doesn't follow the

1398
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 23: sport with passion. They noticed this right away that it's

1399
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 23: being forced on them, and I think sooner or later

1400
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 23: it's it's going to backfire.

1401
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:51,600
Speaker 2: On them now real quickly. Alan thoughts, Oh god, you know,

1402
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 2: and you know, and you know, I'm.

1403
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 23: Really disappointed in Chris Candy because he's a former NFL

1404
01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 23: player and he was totally against it. And when I

1405
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 23: hear NFL players saying say, this is not a football play.

1406
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 23: It's on the field, it's a football play. They're talking

1407
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 23: about it's boring that your Washington Tennessee Titans last year

1408
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 23: thought damn team was boring. So I mean, so I'm glad.

1409
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 23: I'm glad to tell I'm glad to just push Uh

1410
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 23: didn't didn't get banned. Like I said, stop it. If

1411
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 23: you don't like it, stop it. As far as flag

1412
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 23: football is hurting, I couldn't care less about it. It's

1413
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:34,679
Speaker 23: just it's just something that's a novelty right there people

1414
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 23: talking about it.

1415
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 9: I don't think.

1416
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:38,680
Speaker 23: I think the NFL players, I think a lot of

1417
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:39,639
Speaker 23: them won't be playing.

1418
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 8: It's facing You got the guy.

1419
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 23: With a one hundred million dollar contract. I think his

1420
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 23: owner is going to tell him, you've been not played

1421
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 23: and let's face it, they talking about that flag. Football

1422
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 23: is an up and coming U sport. Didn't we hear

1423
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 23: that about soccer? And look what and what is that doing?

1424
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? Thank I appreciate thank you. Alan appreciate it now

1425
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:01,559
Speaker 2: and said something that I agree with because I want

1426
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:04,839
Speaker 2: to maintain my objectivity. Injeur Reech is a good rebounder,

1427
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 2: and John Wooden said it best. There's a place in

1428
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 2: heaven for rebounders. I'll cover the World Championship Detroit Pistons

1429
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 2: in two thousand and four. They almost repeated No. Five.

1430
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 2: Had Ben Wallace, the only undrafted player in the history

1431
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 2: of the NBA to make it to the Hall of Fame,

1432
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:24,720
Speaker 2: a spectacular rebounder, studied angles balls coming off the rim.

1433
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 2: Dennis Robins same way. Talk to Dennis many times. So

1434
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 2: we'll maintain our objectivity. But I just can't feel that

1435
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 2: the social media stuff's helping out. If they were winning games,

1436
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 2: it would, you know, diminish the after effects as it were.

1437
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 2: But they're not. Gary in South Dakota's next good evening.

1438
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 24: Gary, Pleasure, Hi, Bernie, is a pleasure to speak with you.

1439
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:56,640
Speaker 24: Thank you, first time caller. I get him first. I

1440
01:13:56,680 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 24: guess I would talk about the WNBA. I followed Caitlin

1441
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 24: Clark quite a bit when she was with the Hawk

1442
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:05,560
Speaker 24: Eyes pour South Dakota and Iowa. We're pretty close to

1443
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:09,639
Speaker 24: each other, so and I don't know, I think there's

1444
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 24: too much being made out of the so called rivalry.

1445
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 24: I think Ameel Rees really needs it to keep it alive.

1446
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 24: You know, I don't think Caitlin Clark needs it at all.

1447
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 24: And I think that it was a good game today.

1448
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 24: I watched New York Liberty and the Indiana Fever and

1449
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 24: that was a great game.

1450
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 2: And no one's talking about the game in the floor

1451
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 2: real quickly. Yeah, Gary, anything on the touch push? Are

1452
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 2: you glad it passed?

1453
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 24: I'd be okay if they get rid of it. The

1454
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:44,639
Speaker 24: thing that bothers me the most is that other play

1455
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 24: they seem to have where you've got somebody who catches

1456
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 24: the ball and the offensive lineman latch onto the runner

1457
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 24: and push him down the field. The poor defense doesn't

1458
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:55,800
Speaker 24: have a chance to stop him.

1459
01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 2: Well, you know, the game of all and as fans,

1460
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:02,640
Speaker 2: I guess we have to evolve as well. Thanks for

1461
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 2: checking in, first time, callard. Gary in South Dakota. Don't

1462
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 2: be a stranger, ladies and gentlemen. Boys and girls. You

1463
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 2: may have taken a week off last week and we

1464
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:15,799
Speaker 2: suffered for it. We welcome back in Manuel from Guardina.

1465
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:16,639
Speaker 2: What's that? Manuel?

1466
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 9: Oh?

1467
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 18: Oh oh, it's magic to know listening to.

1468
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:30,559
Speaker 11: Bernie brad Oh and the funky Cole Medina Bernie my Man,

1469
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 11: hey man. First off, blag football is it has a

1470
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 11: place at Recreation Park at Thornburg Park at Breeman Park

1471
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 11: for middle school and junior high kids. I mean, what

1472
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 11: are we talking about here? Like I said, I told

1473
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 11: you this a few weeks ago, we're gonna have another

1474
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 11: Robert Edwards. Someone's gonna shred his me up and then

1475
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 11: they're gonna go back to the drawing board and figure out.

1476
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 15: And it's just a stupid idea.

1477
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 2: Olympic sport. I mean they even tried ballroom dancing for

1478
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 2: a while. How do you win a gold medal in that?

1479
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 2: All right, real quickly, And I really want to hear

1480
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 2: your thoughts on the WNBA matter we got going here.

1481
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 11: Okay, Well, you can't spell WNBA without using red ink

1482
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 11: you and I know that, Bernie, Oh my god, they

1483
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 11: haven't made money since its inception. Now, how stupid do

1484
01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:25,719
Speaker 11: you have to be as a league to want to kill.

1485
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:26,639
Speaker 15: The Golden Goose?

1486
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 18: And I don't care if.

1487
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 11: The players don't like Haylen Klark. She's the only thing

1488
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 11: that moves the needle. She and fans loverr So it

1489
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 11: doesn't matter if the rest of.

1490
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 15: The league don't like her.

1491
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:43,800
Speaker 11: If the fans lover who pays the ticket, who pays

1492
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 11: for the ticket, who pays for the revenue, who pays

1493
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:48,879
Speaker 11: for the hot dogs in the fed? Not the players,

1494
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:52,480
Speaker 11: the fans. So they're shooting.

1495
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 15: Themselves in the foot.

1496
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:53,599
Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 11: The one thing is I think you touched on it.

1498
01:16:57,080 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 11: I think it is kind of good because it's bad.

1499
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 11: Publicity is still publicity, and they are talking about it.

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01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:06,600
Speaker 18: But they need to get their heads out of.

1501
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 11: Their collectives and show this lady the respect that she deserves.

1502
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 2: I mean, but but what evidence do we have that's

1503
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 2: ever gonna happen. It's only piling on more and more.

1504
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, you got Ryan Clark and RG

1505
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 2: three and Brittany Grinner. You can go on Twitter and

1506
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 2: read her lips and see what she said. They got

1507
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 2: her on video, Cheryl Swoops, I mean, you think you

1508
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 2: know she stole Cheryl SAPs lunch money.

1509
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 11: They weren't saying nothing when she was getting punked last year.

1510
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 11: Now she comes back and she's like, Hey, this ain't

1511
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 11: last year. I'm gonna do my thing too.

1512
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:43,560
Speaker 18: You guys are gonna hard tell me.

1513
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,680
Speaker 12: I'm a heart tell you and excuse me.

1514
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 2: I want to ask you a question, man, because Alan

1515
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 2: from Saint Louis brought up a good point. They put

1516
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 2: the Sky who didn't even make the playoffs last year

1517
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 2: against the Fever Game one. It's so contrived. You got

1518
01:17:57,479 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 2: the last word.

1519
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:02,679
Speaker 11: Well, I was gonna say, man, as a dock working man,

1520
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:06,520
Speaker 11: we know all boat rise.

1521
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 22: Up with the Harvard that he said they.

1522
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 11: Need to put respect on Kinglyn Clark. Yeah, they're trying

1523
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 11: to ride that rivalry because of Angel Reese. You know,

1524
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 11: she has name quality. Unfortunately, it's like, hey, Michael Jordan's

1525
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:28,679
Speaker 11: biggest rival wasn't Dennis Rodman, it was actually Isaiah Thomas.

1526
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 11: It's yeah, Theiah Thomas.

1527
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 2: If you want to trust me, it really was.

1528
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 11: You only knew I knew, so, so that's what I'm saying, Like,

1529
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 11: you know, it's kind of good in the fact that

1530
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 11: they had this thing since college but the talent level

1531
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:48,960
Speaker 11: man Kyton Clark is head and shoulders talent wise above

1532
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 11: Angel Reese, who shoots like if she's a John contact,

1533
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:54,680
Speaker 11: if you.

1534
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:55,760
Speaker 22: Will, you know what I mean?

1535
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 9: Refences it's it's pretty bad.

1536
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 18: And we had one more push real quickly.

1537
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 2: He just got about thirty seconds.

1538
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 24: Pal.

1539
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 2: I don't want to cut you off unless you want

1540
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 2: to wait till after the one am hour and talk

1541
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 2: about that. Wait, okay, let's do that. I want to

1542
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 2: give you because we've got Manuel Steven Kansas City, Mike

1543
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 2: the leprechron Bryson, Texas, Jimmy and West Virginia, ron In Rochester.

1544
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:21,120
Speaker 2: If you'd be so kind to hang on, you ain't

1545
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 2: getting turned away. I had a feeling this is going

1546
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 2: to happen tonight, and it is happening, and I'm glad

1547
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:29,800
Speaker 2: to hear everybody's thoughts on Caitlin Clark. And by the way,

1548
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 2: Manuel brought up Michael Jordan, Isaiah Thomas. Isaiah walked off

1549
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:36,760
Speaker 2: the floor in ninety one and the team behind him

1550
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 2: and snubbed Jordan next year. The following year, Isaiah was

1551
01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 2: left off the Olympic team. I was told they faxed

1552
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 2: the list of Jordan Isaiah's name was on it, he said,

1553
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 2: now I'm not playing. They faxed it back. His name

1554
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 2: wasn't on it. He says, I'm not I'll play now

1555
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:53,599
Speaker 2: keep it locked. He listening to the Bernie Fratler Show.

1556
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 2: It's the midnight hour and Fox Sports Radio.

1557
01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 1: Door listen, no, Fox Sports Radio.

1558
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:01,559
Speaker 22: That's right, you.

1559
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 2: Heard the man. The Bernie Fredericks Show keeps rolling right along.

1560
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 2: Come you live from the Fox Sports Radio studios here

1561
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 2: in Vegas. Callers have been fantastic. We're diving right back

1562
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 2: in as Midnight Hour goes overtime. Quick tweet from Slow Dive.

1563
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 2: I like this thought, he says. In the end, it's

1564
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 2: hard to watch basketball where the players can't dunk and

1565
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:24,600
Speaker 2: grab rebounds four feet under the rim. Cheryl Miller was

1566
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 2: the only watchable lady ever, Hugh in the five good Stuff,

1567
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 2: look that speaks to the product on the floor. Okay,

1568
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 2: right now, I'm giving the product on the floor a

1569
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 2: hall pass, but we're not even talking about that. But

1570
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 2: good stuff. All right, Let's continue on. Finish up with

1571
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:41,599
Speaker 2: Manuel from Guardina. Manuel, if you have any final thoughts

1572
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 2: on w and then you got your toush push Bud.

1573
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:46,560
Speaker 11: Honored and humble that you bring me back to the

1574
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 11: extravagan to quick shout out to breathe a niece who

1575
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 11: is an excellent producer, very knowledgeable young lady for the

1576
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 11: push man. I don't even know why this sham of

1577
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 11: a thing was even put back on the table by

1578
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 11: the owners. We all knew that he wasn't gonna get

1579
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 11: shot down, nor should he. You know what I mean,

1580
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:12,640
Speaker 11: pick up a defense that can stop me. It's a

1581
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 11: legit football play.

1582
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:16,640
Speaker 18: Hell, Bernie, I'll be honest with you, man, I was

1583
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 18: pissing the NFL stop letting those guys like kind of

1584
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 18: jump on each other's back to block the field goals.

1585
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 18: I think it's all fair game. When you're out there,

1586
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 18: you're trying to win a game.

1587
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:32,760
Speaker 11: Let these guys play, man.

1588
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 2: And you know it's so funny. The irony here, man, Well,

1589
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:38,519
Speaker 2: great calls always. You know, you know it's ironic about

1590
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 2: this whole thing is it was done in the under

1591
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:45,720
Speaker 2: the guys of player safety, which is why jumping up

1592
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 2: on guys backs like, you know, to blockfields. Yeah, sure,

1593
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:52,840
Speaker 2: numbering an injury. Stephen, Kansas City is up next.

1594
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:56,519
Speaker 6: Welcome in, Steve, Hey, Bert, Hey, Bernie.

1595
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:57,639
Speaker 18: Great show, to that boy.

1596
01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 6: We may need another hour to break all that, but

1597
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 6: you might listen. I remember as a kid, I was

1598
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 6: raised in Chicago and moved West. I remember this has

1599
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 6: happened before. I remember my heart being broken every every

1600
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:18,519
Speaker 6: spring by a certain squad of bad boys who would

1601
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 6: retalize Michael Jeffrey Jordan.

1602
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 1: And denial rules.

1603
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 2: I wrote a book about it.

1604
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 6: I have many that I have many championships, and you

1605
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 6: were there, so you know you know what I was

1606
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 6: talking about. But what they what they're not figuring out

1607
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 6: here is they had the biggest ratings of the last

1608
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:40,400
Speaker 6: twenty five years this opening game against the Chicago Sky

1609
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:43,920
Speaker 6: and it looks like with a new TV contract that

1610
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:45,679
Speaker 6: they're going to make, they're going to make.

1611
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:46,320
Speaker 8: A little bit of money.

1612
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:50,280
Speaker 6: I don't think it matters, but you the problem is

1613
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 6: they're treating her like Michael Jordan, and she draws like

1614
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 6: Michael Jordan. But without Caitlin, there is no w NBA

1615
01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:00,840
Speaker 6: as as a success they are now out. That's what

1616
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 6: they're not they're not figuring out. You have to have

1617
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 6: Adam Silver, who would have leverage. If they don't contribute money,

1618
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 6: then without the NBA, then Adam Silver's support. You have

1619
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 6: to go tell the tell the executives running that league.

1620
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 6: You've got to punish Britney Grinder. You have to punish

1621
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 6: all the malcontents that are causing problems, and then that

1622
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 6: will finally, that will finally put an end all this stuff.

1623
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 6: But they're happy getting paid, you know, they're happy with

1624
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 6: no attention. They were happy just getting salaries. So that's

1625
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:32,960
Speaker 6: that's the that's where we're at. Someone is going to

1626
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 6: have to make an example out of Britney Grinder.

1627
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 2: And there lies the problem. No one's no one's going

1628
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:42,679
Speaker 2: to do it. No one's going to do it, my friend,

1629
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:44,639
Speaker 2: But we agree this is not a good look. Thoughts

1630
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:45,360
Speaker 2: on the Toush.

1631
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 6: Push Okay, I uh, the Toos push will be done

1632
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 6: as soon as what a franchise quarterback really gets hurt?

1633
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:55,400
Speaker 6: I mean Patrick Mahomes sort of already already got hurt.

1634
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 6: But the Toush pushes is on borrowed time.

1635
01:23:59,720 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 2: Uh.

1636
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:01,559
Speaker 8: But what was the other topic?

1637
01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:05,520
Speaker 2: Black football? Black football in the Olympics.

1638
01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, go ahead, I'm here, I'm I'm here for all

1639
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 6: of it. It's a globalization strategy. No pads put all

1640
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 6: of our stars in front of the world like the

1641
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:17,599
Speaker 6: Dream like the Dream Team. My only my only quibble

1642
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:21,840
Speaker 6: is Patrick Mahomes will play one person per team, but

1643
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 6: no scrambling.

1644
01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 8: No, no scrambling.

1645
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 6: Just the USA will say we will take Patrick, but no,

1646
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 6: you cannot scramble, you cannot.

1647
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 2: Will see, he's one of the people who will sit

1648
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:38,760
Speaker 2: it out. Steve always appreciates your enthusiasm. We'll see how

1649
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 2: this plays out the Olympics. A lot of people take

1650
01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:43,839
Speaker 2: a lot of pride and wanted to be in the Olympics.

1651
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 2: Mike the Leprechaun Joint. Just welcome in, Mike, Good morning again.

1652
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:50,760
Speaker 15: How about you thank you for two things when I'm

1653
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:53,560
Speaker 15: moving houses this week and it's nice for having that

1654
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:53,800
Speaker 15: came in.

1655
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 19: But I'm packing boxes, all right, all right.

1656
01:24:56,920 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 2: So your thoughts on the w n B. A fiasco

1657
01:24:59,400 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 2: that's going on.

1658
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:01,759
Speaker 17: Okay, it's not a fiasco.

1659
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 24: It's promotional, that's my word of the promotions.

1660
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:07,679
Speaker 19: They're promoting the game. The girls are getting the ladies

1661
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:11,559
Speaker 19: are getting much better. It's I coached.

1662
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:13,439
Speaker 15: I'm an elementary teacher.

1663
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 17: You have to bring the girls and the boys.

1664
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:19,439
Speaker 10: Into games, and then the girls will be the one

1665
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 10: through a women at the besides the course.

1666
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 2: Okay, so you you think this, you think real quickly, Mike,

1667
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 2: because I want to get to all the callers. You

1668
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:29,439
Speaker 2: think this is actually helping me?

1669
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:32,680
Speaker 15: In w NBA, Yes, yes, Talk is a star.

1670
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 23: Angel Leaf is a star.

1671
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 12: Paige Buker's or whatever her name is is.

1672
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:41,759
Speaker 2: An that don't even talking about Page Beckers. People barely

1673
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:44,040
Speaker 2: know she exists in the in w NBA.

1674
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:47,719
Speaker 11: That's the point, right on the technical On the technical

1675
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 11: Leaf foul first, then reached ten second heart foul not dirty.

1676
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 2: I don't think it's dirty. But well let's move on

1677
01:25:57,040 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 2: because I I can't get to that much Manuci, But

1678
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:01,200
Speaker 2: you get your thought on the touch push you for it,

1679
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:01,720
Speaker 2: against it?

1680
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 13: Yes, it's like it's like the Bots and Express and RuSHA.

1681
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 23: It's slow, it's bowling.

1682
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:10,600
Speaker 2: Oh my, well hey, if you're the Eagles, it's not.

1683
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:13,760
Speaker 2: You move the chains, you score a touchdown, you get

1684
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 2: that hardyard, you win a super Bowl. It's football, man.

1685
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:20,679
Speaker 10: At flag football, Yeah, you go ahead.

1686
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 15: Promotion promotion, promotion does okay?

1687
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:25,120
Speaker 2: You brought up a couple of good points, Mike, I

1688
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:27,680
Speaker 2: get thanks a lot for checking in, Mike. Maybe right.

1689
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 2: The reason I can't completely subscribe to the promotion theory

1690
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:33,799
Speaker 2: is because I don't think anybody from the league office

1691
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:36,680
Speaker 2: is directing injur Reese to go on social media or

1692
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 2: beat the crap out of Caitlin Clark every time she

1693
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:42,640
Speaker 2: touches the ball. But it's happening and they're enabling it,

1694
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:47,040
Speaker 2: so it's not promotional other than the byproduct the law

1695
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 2: of unintended consequences. In a sense, the WNB is getting

1696
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 2: more airtime tonight than the league deserves because of something

1697
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:57,720
Speaker 2: off the floor, not necessarily on the floor. It's all

1698
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:00,679
Speaker 2: part of the mix. Bryson Texas Joint is welcome in Bryce.

1699
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 25: I was about to say, I'm want to be the

1700
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 25: first person that defends the w NBA, but.

1701
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 8: Okay, oh right, so I'm a big tennis guy.

1702
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:14,600
Speaker 25: The French Open starts today, so gay me. Maria Sharapova

1703
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:17,919
Speaker 25: and Serena Williams is supposed to have this huge rivalry

1704
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:19,679
Speaker 25: between the two and I don't know if you paid

1705
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 25: attention to that.

1706
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:24,439
Speaker 2: Verena absolutely and they were both champions.

1707
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 3: Right on.

1708
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:28,679
Speaker 25: And you don't think that Angel Reach is it chatting

1709
01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:31,479
Speaker 25: around her NCA champion and saying, hey, I got this

1710
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:32,760
Speaker 25: over a year, like get out.

1711
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:34,839
Speaker 2: The scrap book. If you want. No one cares anymore,

1712
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:38,759
Speaker 2: but I but I respect your ability to I respect

1713
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:44,240
Speaker 2: your right to defend the WNBA. So you believe this

1714
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:50,600
Speaker 2: event slash events involving all these people is helping the WNBA.

1715
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 25: Yes, because it helps other sports all the time. It's

1716
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 25: when Thomas Bertie wants to talk crap on the doll,

1717
01:27:56,479 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 25: It's when cynthy Paz called Daniel Nevide of stupid rock.

1718
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:03,720
Speaker 2: These are good comparisons. But but in going back to

1719
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 2: Chris Evert and Martina and Avertilover, Jimmy Connors and John McEnroe,

1720
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:13,519
Speaker 2: I would just say this, Bryce, is this an apples

1721
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 2: and oranges comparison? Because if the Sky had played the

1722
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:20,720
Speaker 2: the Fever in the the w NBA Finals last year,

1723
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 2: I think you're kind. I think this would have some merit,

1724
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:24,559
Speaker 2: but go ahead.

1725
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 25: Well, but you're right, but nobody else knows any other name.

1726
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 25: You said it already, nobody knows any other name in

1727
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:32,720
Speaker 25: the w NB except these two, so they're going to

1728
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:35,160
Speaker 25: put them front and center. You and I talked about

1729
01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:36,800
Speaker 25: this about a year ago when we were talking about

1730
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:39,840
Speaker 25: generational players that I brought sir and Williams and you mentioned, Hey,

1731
01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 25: what happened to Tennis. I said, there's no more rivalry.

1732
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:44,439
Speaker 2: Well, that's right, that's right.

1733
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:48,360
Speaker 8: So we need this, and it's not the way that

1734
01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:49,800
Speaker 8: we want it, but we need it for the w.

1735
01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 5: N b A to have any sort of chance.

1736
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:56,920
Speaker 2: All right, tush push for the toush push.

1737
01:28:57,320 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 25: The NFL did this to themselves back in the early

1738
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:03,120
Speaker 25: two thousand when he allowed the rule change to allow

1739
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:06,719
Speaker 25: players to push off insive players. And now they're regretting

1740
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 25: ever changing that rule back then, so now they're trying

1741
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:10,599
Speaker 25: to reverse it. It's never gonna work.

1742
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:15,679
Speaker 2: Money real quickly took ten seconds on the flag. Flag football,

1743
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:17,400
Speaker 2: flag football.

1744
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 8: I prepare it to tickle ball.

1745
01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:22,679
Speaker 25: As long as you don't expect an NFL style football

1746
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 25: game and you just allow flag football to be what

1747
01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 25: it is. I think it's great.

1748
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 2: All right, all good stuff, Rice, appreciate you got some

1749
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:32,240
Speaker 2: diverse opinions. Jimmy and West Virginia, welcome in Toto the

1750
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:32,960
Speaker 2: Bernie Frattles Show.

1751
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 12: How are you hey, Bernie? How are you look? I'm

1752
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:38,599
Speaker 12: gonna I'm gonna start at the bottom of the heel again.

1753
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:44,680
Speaker 12: Let's do the flag football first. Look, if if my

1754
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:48,400
Speaker 12: five ten, he'll Billy but could win a gold medal

1755
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:50,800
Speaker 12: light in or the breakdancing contest. I mean, if you're

1756
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:54,080
Speaker 12: gonna have break dancing in the Olympics, you might as

1757
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:56,360
Speaker 12: well have the flag football. I can see whether these

1758
01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:59,680
Speaker 12: players want to get that gold medal. I mean, that

1759
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 12: would be honorable for the country, you know, so I

1760
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:07,479
Speaker 12: would like to you know, uh, you see Justin Jefferson

1761
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 12: outrun any country down the road and wait on the

1762
01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:13,120
Speaker 12: ball and land in his arms and the end zone.

1763
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:15,600
Speaker 12: I think that's exactly what will happen, just like the

1764
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:18,639
Speaker 12: Dream Team. I mean they walked over everybody when at first.

1765
01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:22,599
Speaker 2: I understand. And Gola has got some really good defensive back.

1766
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:25,639
Speaker 2: So so we'll see if they can jim Justin Jefferson

1767
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:28,040
Speaker 2: at land scrimmage. Anything on the push in the wn

1768
01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:28,280
Speaker 2: b A.

1769
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:32,240
Speaker 12: You know, you gotta you're just gonna have to get

1770
01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:33,519
Speaker 12: the tooth pushed down.

1771
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:34,919
Speaker 19: But I have to play defense.

1772
01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:39,080
Speaker 12: Don't let them get flitch over. You know, you don't

1773
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:41,720
Speaker 12: get that one and a half two yard lines. We're

1774
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:43,960
Speaker 12: gonna keep you eight yards out. You know, Let's play

1775
01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:47,880
Speaker 12: some real defense. You know, stop it it'll end. And

1776
01:30:48,040 --> 01:30:49,800
Speaker 12: as far as the w n b A, man, I

1777
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:52,439
Speaker 12: just hate to see because in the end it's gonna

1778
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:56,360
Speaker 12: be construed as a black against white thing. I hate

1779
01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 12: that for the country. You know, we all got to

1780
01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:00,640
Speaker 12: come together, and I don't think it's good look for

1781
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:02,280
Speaker 12: the w n b A. I don't think it's a

1782
01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:05,000
Speaker 12: good look for USA. So you know, I don't know.

1783
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:07,560
Speaker 12: I'd like to see those girls get it together and

1784
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:10,679
Speaker 12: really exceale her. I think it would make a whole

1785
01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:12,479
Speaker 12: lot more money their buddies.

1786
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 18: I mean in the m m A.

1787
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:17,960
Speaker 12: You know, two guys of races whatever, they knock each

1788
01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:19,760
Speaker 12: other out, they get up, they hug each other.

1789
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:21,000
Speaker 8: That has been so.

1790
01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:23,400
Speaker 12: Good for everybody. I'd like to see the same thing

1791
01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:25,240
Speaker 12: happened to those ladies too.

1792
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:29,640
Speaker 2: Thanks Jimmy, appreciate your call. Ron in Rochester, thanks for

1793
01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:32,160
Speaker 2: hanging on. You are next to the Bernie Fradleshow yeah.

1794
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:34,920
Speaker 26: Man, By the time, First of all, I love this

1795
01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:38,320
Speaker 26: revision is history. It's like, first of all, Kaitley car

1796
01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:41,360
Speaker 26: teammates had a real slow start and she couldn't shoot

1797
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:42,600
Speaker 26: for anything.

1798
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 2: Games the first three games, I mean the first week

1799
01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:50,240
Speaker 2: they said she was a bus You played three games,

1800
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:51,360
Speaker 2: how did you finish?

1801
01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:51,679
Speaker 8: Ron?

1802
01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:57,479
Speaker 17: She agreed, but also like in Angel Reese. They were

1803
01:31:57,560 --> 01:32:00,320
Speaker 17: neck and neck for MVP like rookie has year.

1804
01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:03,680
Speaker 2: Not really, they might have been in your if you

1805
01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:06,040
Speaker 2: were voting, but no else.

1806
01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 17: All right, let me get the flag football. I went

1807
01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:12,439
Speaker 17: to consit. We I played in the We had this

1808
01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 17: super league in the There's a team called x Flax,

1809
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:20,160
Speaker 17: all x lacrosse players and current lacrosse players. It was

1810
01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:24,479
Speaker 17: a full contact and these guys were cheap shot artists.

1811
01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:27,080
Speaker 17: They're fast, they're some of the best athletes in the country.

1812
01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:30,600
Speaker 17: And we played against them. They like took out my

1813
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:33,559
Speaker 17: quarterback and art Scot m knee surgery because they gave

1814
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:36,760
Speaker 17: the sheet shot. These Syracuse players are fast and big

1815
01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:39,360
Speaker 17: and they hit and this was this was live at

1816
01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 17: the line and it was serious flag football, and you know,

1817
01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:46,519
Speaker 17: don't just count It was like seriously hard hitting and

1818
01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:47,920
Speaker 17: it was wars on the line.

1819
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:51,200
Speaker 2: So you know, so, do you expect the Olympic version

1820
01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 2: of the game to be that physical round, No.

1821
01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:55,439
Speaker 17: It's not gonna be like that at all. But don't

1822
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:58,240
Speaker 17: just count flag football, because I don't.

1823
01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:00,719
Speaker 2: Just count flag football as a sport. I'm very aware

1824
01:33:01,479 --> 01:33:05,000
Speaker 2: not only is it growing in popularity, but the NFL

1825
01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:08,719
Speaker 2: is help is helping to promote it. My my question

1826
01:33:08,880 --> 01:33:10,680
Speaker 2: was we really need to do this in the Olympics

1827
01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:12,880
Speaker 2: and have NFL players going risking.

1828
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:16,400
Speaker 12: It's not that was my That was that was my angle.

1829
01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:19,559
Speaker 17: That was my definitely not why why do we want

1830
01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:23,479
Speaker 17: like install American You know it should be toush push

1831
01:33:23,560 --> 01:33:24,400
Speaker 17: Ron thoughts on that.

1832
01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:26,759
Speaker 6: You know, I got to give them credit.

1833
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 17: They're good at it. You know, I really write in credit.

1834
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:32,160
Speaker 2: Hey, I love the call, Ron, don't be a stranger.

1835
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:37,080
Speaker 2: Appreciate you hanging online Hollywood in Florida. Welcome into the

1836
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:38,679
Speaker 2: Bernie Fraters Show. Thanks for your patience.

1837
01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:41,479
Speaker 6: Bernie, I am a first time caller. I appreciate that

1838
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:45,080
Speaker 6: you're having me on. First of all, for my Florida Gators.

1839
01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:47,600
Speaker 6: I want to give some love there for their championship.

1840
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:50,800
Speaker 6: The pactors Border pactors are on the verge of theirs,

1841
01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:54,520
Speaker 6: so go Sators go pactors intents.

1842
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:56,080
Speaker 12: Of the n b A, the w n b A.

1843
01:33:56,200 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 6: What it is is that they're jealous of Caitlin Clark,

1844
01:34:00,479 --> 01:34:03,560
Speaker 6: and there's a lot of pettiness and jealousy, and so

1845
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:07,560
Speaker 6: she is the reason why the WNBA is making the

1846
01:34:07,680 --> 01:34:11,120
Speaker 6: money that they're making. They're on the jets that they're

1847
01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:14,799
Speaker 6: on now that they didn't have access to before Caitlin Clark.

1848
01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:19,639
Speaker 6: So instead of them praising and appreciating, there's being petty

1849
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:22,519
Speaker 6: and all the old people, the Cheryl Swoops of the

1850
01:34:22,640 --> 01:34:25,720
Speaker 6: world and people like that, there's just jealousy and they're

1851
01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:28,759
Speaker 6: taking shots at her. In terms of the tush push,

1852
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:31,040
Speaker 6: that is what it is. The Eagles are good at it.

1853
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:33,920
Speaker 6: I don't think it's very appealing to look at. But

1854
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:37,160
Speaker 6: whatever floats the boat, I mean, whatever gets you your

1855
01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:41,000
Speaker 6: yard or two or whatever. And in terms of the Olympics,

1856
01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:44,920
Speaker 6: I would say it's a matter of a player getting hurt,

1857
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:47,719
Speaker 6: you know, non obviously it's like football is non contact.

1858
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:51,040
Speaker 6: So when a player tries to make a cut and

1859
01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:54,599
Speaker 6: ruptures and achilles or you know, messes up their knee,

1860
01:34:54,920 --> 01:34:56,680
Speaker 6: I think they're going to have some regret on that.

1861
01:34:56,960 --> 01:34:59,240
Speaker 8: But you know, whatever it is, what it is with

1862
01:34:59,320 --> 01:34:59,760
Speaker 8: that just.

1863
01:35:01,240 --> 01:35:04,080
Speaker 6: Black football, it's sits again Nick. Anyway, in the NFL,

1864
01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:07,439
Speaker 6: I would say it's the wiscification of the NFL. Look

1865
01:35:07,479 --> 01:35:09,880
Speaker 6: at how you count breathe on the quarterbacks, look at

1866
01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:13,920
Speaker 6: how you count give the you know, defense any leeway

1867
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:16,439
Speaker 6: on anything it's all offense. That's all they want. So

1868
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:19,959
Speaker 6: I think the NFL is declining anyway, just in terms.

1869
01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:21,040
Speaker 5: Of like all the rules.

1870
01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:23,320
Speaker 6: I would say real quick because I know you got

1871
01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:26,200
Speaker 6: to go, but these players know what they're signing up for,

1872
01:35:26,439 --> 01:35:29,920
Speaker 6: so to have all these lawsuits and concussions and no,

1873
01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:30,360
Speaker 6: well you.

1874
01:35:30,479 --> 01:35:32,800
Speaker 2: Just nailed it there. You finished strong their Hollywood. That

1875
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:34,960
Speaker 2: was a lot of good stuff. And I hope you're

1876
01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:37,120
Speaker 2: listening all right now because I'll give you some credit.

1877
01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:43,240
Speaker 2: The NFL has a way of reacting when you see

1878
01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:46,040
Speaker 2: them for a billion dollars due to the concussion thing,

1879
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:49,600
Speaker 2: which was few years ago. So the game is not

1880
01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:51,680
Speaker 2: going to be what it was before. And there's a

1881
01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:54,200
Speaker 2: lot of good to that, although they need to land

1882
01:35:54,280 --> 01:35:56,160
Speaker 2: somewhere in the middle because they might have gone Penning

1883
01:35:56,400 --> 01:35:57,880
Speaker 2: might have swung too far. And you're not the first

1884
01:35:57,920 --> 01:36:00,360
Speaker 2: fan to say it, Robin Orland. I had to will

1885
01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:02,760
Speaker 2: wrap us up on what's been an outstanding midnight hour

1886
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:06,080
Speaker 2: in seventeen minutes. Rob thanks for your patience. You got

1887
01:36:06,160 --> 01:36:07,120
Speaker 2: the last word tonight.

1888
01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:10,280
Speaker 20: Buri, Matt, I appreciate you squeezing me in. I'm gonna

1889
01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:13,439
Speaker 20: make a really bizarre comparison and give me just a

1890
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:14,879
Speaker 20: shade a latitude because.

1891
01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:18,400
Speaker 22: I think this, I think this issue has gotten ridiculous.

1892
01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:23,960
Speaker 20: I compare the Kaitlyn Clark situation a little bit to

1893
01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:26,360
Speaker 20: Tiger Woods and to.

1894
01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:30,880
Speaker 22: Oh, shoot, I've lost a race car driver's name. What

1895
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:33,200
Speaker 22: was the race car driver a couple of years ago.

1896
01:36:33,720 --> 01:36:36,160
Speaker 20: Supposedly they found a noois and is I know what

1897
01:36:36,240 --> 01:36:39,280
Speaker 20: you're talking about? Go ahead for forgive me. I forgotten

1898
01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:41,679
Speaker 20: forgetting his name, and you go ahead.

1899
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:42,000
Speaker 2: Day.

1900
01:36:42,479 --> 01:36:44,240
Speaker 22: Yeah, at the end of the day, the people at the.

1901
01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:46,560
Speaker 20: WNBA should be absolutely embarrassed.

1902
01:36:47,200 --> 01:36:50,240
Speaker 22: If it was a white athlete who sat on the

1903
01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:53,439
Speaker 22: bench and said, I'm gonna go get that black person,

1904
01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:57,360
Speaker 22: bleep black person, there's gonna be a national outrage.

1905
01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:01,600
Speaker 20: And I expect the same thing in this situation. And

1906
01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:06,160
Speaker 20: I mentioned Tyler because listen, embrace greatness. It doesn't matter

1907
01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:09,439
Speaker 20: if you're black, white, green, or whatever. Embrace greatness because

1908
01:37:09,479 --> 01:37:12,240
Speaker 20: that's what we all want to watch. We don't want

1909
01:37:12,280 --> 01:37:15,439
Speaker 20: to watch people thugging it out because you know they

1910
01:37:15,479 --> 01:37:18,639
Speaker 20: don't like a certain person or certain color or whatever else.

1911
01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:21,960
Speaker 20: We want to see greatness and that's what we're all

1912
01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:24,840
Speaker 20: missing here, you know, or not us, but you know,

1913
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:28,760
Speaker 20: folks in the WNBA are missing, you know, penalize these

1914
01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:32,519
Speaker 20: players who are taking a racist tone or tactic to

1915
01:37:32,680 --> 01:37:34,880
Speaker 20: make it that much bigger of a situation than.

1916
01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:35,240
Speaker 15: It should be.

1917
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:39,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, you said them mouthful And the only thing

1918
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:42,200
Speaker 2: I can say is, I don't think the WNBA is

1919
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Speaker 2: benefiting from this. And I didn't want to slow your role.

1920
01:37:45,760 --> 01:37:48,000
Speaker 2: It was, in fact, Bubba Wallace and Brandy and it

1921
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Speaker 2: was Bubble Wallace. The bottom line is is that whether

1922
01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:55,519
Speaker 2: or not there are comparisons or analogies or whatever, the

1923
01:37:55,640 --> 01:37:57,320
Speaker 2: NBA is trying to get off the ground and they

1924
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Speaker 2: lose millions of dollars every year, and I don't think

1925
01:37:59,120 --> 01:38:02,519
Speaker 2: this helps them helps them do that. So the bottom

1926
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Speaker 2: line is, I think we have kind of a consensus

1927
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Speaker 2: this hasn't necessarily been good for the WNBA. Real quickly,

1928
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Speaker 2: the touch push in the flag football, I.

1929
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Speaker 20: Mean touch pushes, stop it flag football. I think nobody's

1930
01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:20,479
Speaker 20: really taking into account. It's really two different sports, the

1931
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:23,719
Speaker 20: NFL and flag football. They're not even in the same realm.

1932
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Speaker 2: I couldn't agree more, couldn't agree more.

1933
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Speaker 20: And I would love to see an NFL player who

1934
01:38:29,520 --> 01:38:32,960
Speaker 20: wants to play not make the team because somebody who's

1935
01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:35,200
Speaker 20: been playing flag football for five to ten years.

1936
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Speaker 2: You know there's something to that. There's something to that.

1937
01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:42,240
Speaker 2: It's a different dynamic. But we all know that totally.

1938
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Speaker 2: All right, Thanks to a lot to Rob. A fantastic

1939
01:38:45,120 --> 01:38:49,479
Speaker 2: job by everybody tonight on the midnight hour, and you

1940
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:51,880
Speaker 2: really make the show go when you know, we get

1941
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Speaker 2: into these lively discussions. Everybody's respectful, everybody. You know, people

1942
01:38:56,120 --> 01:39:00,160
Speaker 2: have varying opinions, which is what we want, okay, And

1943
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Speaker 2: we're not looking for a solution year. We're not solving

1944
01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:07,080
Speaker 2: the world's problems with sports talk radio. But this has

1945
01:39:07,160 --> 01:39:09,320
Speaker 2: become a topic. And I held my nose. I was

1946
01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:11,479
Speaker 2: sure if I wanted to do this tonight, but this

1947
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Speaker 2: is what's out there.

1948
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Speaker 8: Man.

1949
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Speaker 2: You got to play the hits.

1950
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Speaker 7: You know.

1951
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:21,360
Speaker 2: What this subject matter does is create emotion and emotions

1952
01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:26,040
Speaker 2: what drives sports. If people didn't make the emotional decisions,

1953
01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:28,400
Speaker 2: they wouldn't sell three cars a year in this country.

1954
01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:31,160
Speaker 2: That's the way it works. People act on emotion, they're

1955
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Speaker 2: justifying with logic. By the way, for the best pregame

1956
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1957
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1958
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1959
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1960
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1961
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1962
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1963
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1964
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Speaker 2: didn't get voted thumbs up at the NFL Spring meetings

1965
01:40:03,960 --> 01:40:08,400
Speaker 2: this last week and I'm disappointed. Well, frankly, they didn't

1966
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Speaker 2: even vote. And I'm even more disappointed they didn't even vote.

1967
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:14,240
Speaker 2: I'll explain coming up because I thought it made too

1968
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Speaker 2: much sense and it didn't happen. I'm Bernie Frattle, come

1969
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Speaker 2: to your line from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios.

1970
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1971
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1972
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1975
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1976
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1977
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1978
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1979
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1980
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1981
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1983
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1984
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1985
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1986
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1987
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1988
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1989
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1990
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1991
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Speaker 2: and Sunday morning right here on Fox Sports Radio in

1992
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Speaker 2: the iHeart Radio app. All right, we talked about the

1993
01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:31,280
Speaker 2: Toush push and we talked about flag football. Those were

1994
01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:37,160
Speaker 2: both big topics at the NFL Spring meetings this last Tuesday.

1995
01:41:38,160 --> 01:41:41,639
Speaker 2: There was one other topic that I am disappointed frankly

1996
01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:44,840
Speaker 2: that didn't get well, they didn't even get to a vote.

1997
01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:48,799
Speaker 2: There was supposed to be a proposal changing the playoff

1998
01:41:48,920 --> 01:41:53,960
Speaker 2: seating format. It was withdrawn before a vote. And I'll

1999
01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:56,960
Speaker 2: get to that in a minute. The proposal was initially,

2000
01:41:58,200 --> 01:42:03,880
Speaker 2: i believe, orchestrated, authored by the Detroit Lions, and what

2001
01:42:03,960 --> 01:42:05,679
Speaker 2: it would have done is it would have seeded team

2002
01:42:05,800 --> 01:42:11,280
Speaker 2: strictly by record, regardless whether they won their division. Now,

2003
01:42:11,360 --> 01:42:13,400
Speaker 2: this would have meant a wildcard team with a better

2004
01:42:13,479 --> 01:42:16,559
Speaker 2: record could have been seeded higher than a division winner. Okay,

2005
01:42:17,400 --> 01:42:21,639
Speaker 2: maybe that's how it should be because consider this under

2006
01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:25,439
Speaker 2: the current playoff format, the four division winners in the

2007
01:42:25,560 --> 01:42:27,760
Speaker 2: NFC and the AFC. When you get the top four

2008
01:42:27,840 --> 01:42:32,320
Speaker 2: seeds right, that holds the postseason throughout the three wildcard teams,

2009
01:42:32,600 --> 01:42:34,800
Speaker 2: they are always going to be seeds five through seven.

2010
01:42:35,479 --> 01:42:38,600
Speaker 2: The number one seeds are always granted, by which the

2011
01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:41,800
Speaker 2: Detroit Lions were the number two, Play seven, three, play six,

2012
01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:44,680
Speaker 2: and you get it right with the higher seed, regardless

2013
01:42:44,680 --> 01:42:47,320
Speaker 2: of whether the wildcard team had a better record, gets

2014
01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:50,240
Speaker 2: to host the game in the first round. See under

2015
01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:54,000
Speaker 2: this new proposal it would have passed. The wildcard route

2016
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:55,800
Speaker 2: would have stayed the same. The change would he began

2017
01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:58,639
Speaker 2: in the second round. Instead of the top seeded team

2018
01:42:59,200 --> 01:43:02,400
Speaker 2: playing the lowest remaining seat in the divisional round, the

2019
01:43:02,479 --> 01:43:04,439
Speaker 2: team of the best record would play the team at

2020
01:43:04,479 --> 01:43:07,760
Speaker 2: the worst record. So here's what that would have looked like.

2021
01:43:08,120 --> 01:43:10,200
Speaker 2: In this team with the second best record would play

2022
01:43:10,200 --> 01:43:13,760
Speaker 2: the team in the second worst record. So let's go back.

2023
01:43:15,080 --> 01:43:17,639
Speaker 2: If the new proposal had been implemented last year. Here's

2024
01:43:17,680 --> 01:43:20,440
Speaker 2: what would have happened. In the NFC. The Detroit Alliance

2025
01:43:21,200 --> 01:43:23,840
Speaker 2: who finished fifteen and two, still get their buy. That

2026
01:43:23,960 --> 01:43:28,120
Speaker 2: doesn't change. The Eagles would have hosted Green Bay, Tampa

2027
01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:31,000
Speaker 2: Bay would have hosted Washington, and the Rams would have

2028
01:43:31,040 --> 01:43:36,439
Speaker 2: hosted Minnesota. Okay, well, check, Actually that's what did happen.

2029
01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:40,920
Speaker 2: Excuse me, see under the current format. What happened though,

2030
01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:45,880
Speaker 2: is the Commanders they upset the Bucks, they traveled to

2031
01:43:45,920 --> 01:43:49,200
Speaker 2: Detroit for the divisional round, and the Eagles hosted the Rams.

2032
01:43:49,479 --> 01:43:53,320
Speaker 2: But if the new format would have passed, the Rams

2033
01:43:53,479 --> 01:43:56,800
Speaker 2: would have had to travel to Detroit, the Eagles would

2034
01:43:56,840 --> 01:43:59,760
Speaker 2: have hosted the Commanders the context. So now, maybe for

2035
01:43:59,840 --> 01:44:02,360
Speaker 2: the Detroit the Lions Rams matchup might have been preferable

2036
01:44:02,439 --> 01:44:05,000
Speaker 2: to the one they got, especially when they consider the

2037
01:44:05,040 --> 01:44:09,160
Speaker 2: Commander's into the Lions season of complete lopsided fashion and

2038
01:44:09,240 --> 01:44:12,720
Speaker 2: the same thing for the AFC. So the bottom line

2039
01:44:12,880 --> 01:44:17,160
Speaker 2: is you know, you have a team with a fifteen

2040
01:44:17,160 --> 01:44:19,519
Speaker 2: to two record, they happened to not win their division,

2041
01:44:21,320 --> 01:44:22,600
Speaker 2: but they have the number one but they got the

2042
01:44:22,680 --> 01:44:25,719
Speaker 2: number one seed, so you know, they play a team

2043
01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:32,880
Speaker 2: that is an upstar team, and you know you're not

2044
01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:38,080
Speaker 2: really as rewarded for your regular season performance. Again, I

2045
01:44:38,200 --> 01:44:41,400
Speaker 2: think the reason the proposal made sense is because it

2046
01:44:41,439 --> 01:44:45,479
Speaker 2: would have rewarded teams for consistent performance throughout the regular season,

2047
01:44:46,680 --> 01:44:50,120
Speaker 2: seating them based slowly on their record. The Lions were

2048
01:44:50,160 --> 01:44:54,519
Speaker 2: the primary protagonists. They are the primary proponents of this proposal,

2049
01:44:55,520 --> 01:44:58,000
Speaker 2: believing it would make the latter part of the season

2050
01:44:58,080 --> 01:45:03,240
Speaker 2: more competitive. Why was it withdrawn, Well, it was withdrawn

2051
01:45:03,320 --> 01:45:06,120
Speaker 2: before the vote could take place due to lack of

2052
01:45:06,200 --> 01:45:10,400
Speaker 2: support from league owners. And that's there's no other, you know,

2053
01:45:10,680 --> 01:45:13,320
Speaker 2: way to slice it. They just simply it wasn't going

2054
01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:14,920
Speaker 2: to pass, so they didn't put up to the floor.

2055
01:45:15,760 --> 01:45:19,880
Speaker 2: Right now, the current system guarantees a division winner a

2056
01:45:19,960 --> 01:45:22,920
Speaker 2: playoff berth and a higher seed regardless of their record

2057
01:45:22,960 --> 01:45:26,080
Speaker 2: compared to wildcard teams. But we've all seen this happens

2058
01:45:26,080 --> 01:45:28,920
Speaker 2: every few years. We're an eight and nine team or

2059
01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:34,280
Speaker 2: a nine and eight team wins the division, but by

2060
01:45:34,400 --> 01:45:37,080
Speaker 2: virtue of being in a much tougher division, and eleven

2061
01:45:37,160 --> 01:45:45,479
Speaker 2: and five team is penalized because of the current system. Okay,

2062
01:45:45,720 --> 01:45:50,400
Speaker 2: the proposed change basically would have, you know, potentially stripped

2063
01:45:50,400 --> 01:45:53,360
Speaker 2: division winners of their whole field advantage in the first round.

2064
01:45:53,439 --> 01:45:55,600
Speaker 2: That was a key point of contention. Okay, I get that.

2065
01:45:56,080 --> 01:45:59,160
Speaker 2: So you win your division, but if you're nine to

2066
01:45:59,280 --> 01:46:02,080
Speaker 2: eight and you got to see a wildcard team that's

2067
01:46:02,120 --> 01:46:05,519
Speaker 2: fourteen to three, tell me about how the fans in

2068
01:46:05,560 --> 01:46:08,160
Speaker 2: the fourteen and three city feel about even though they

2069
01:46:08,240 --> 01:46:11,280
Speaker 2: won five more games than the team in went nine

2070
01:46:11,320 --> 01:46:12,720
Speaker 2: to eight, but they didn't win their division just by

2071
01:46:12,800 --> 01:46:15,720
Speaker 2: virtue of being in a tougher division, so they're penalized

2072
01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:19,240
Speaker 2: by that. All right, there's a possibility this could be

2073
01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:23,880
Speaker 2: revisited in the future. The NFL has expressed interest in

2074
01:46:24,000 --> 01:46:27,360
Speaker 2: making the latter part of the season more meaningful and

2075
01:46:27,479 --> 01:46:31,479
Speaker 2: potentially expanding the regular season to eighteen games, So we'll see.

2076
01:46:31,560 --> 01:46:34,080
Speaker 2: But I thought it honestly made a lot of sense

2077
01:46:34,720 --> 01:46:39,479
Speaker 2: to do that, and it didn't pass. But guess who did.

2078
01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:44,240
Speaker 2: The college football playoff seating has changed, now, This is

2079
01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:48,479
Speaker 2: really interesting. They've been chewing this up for months because

2080
01:46:48,680 --> 01:46:52,679
Speaker 2: after last year's twelve team College Football Playoff gave buys

2081
01:46:52,720 --> 01:46:57,200
Speaker 2: to the foremost highly ranked conference champions. Remember how people

2082
01:46:57,280 --> 01:47:01,840
Speaker 2: got ticked about Boise State, etc. Well, this year's will not.

2083
01:47:02,640 --> 01:47:05,679
Speaker 2: The conference commissioners voted to go to again a straight

2084
01:47:06,080 --> 01:47:10,120
Speaker 2: seating format, and you'll still have five spots still revert

2085
01:47:10,200 --> 01:47:14,479
Speaker 2: for reserved excuse me, for conference champions in twenty twenty five,

2086
01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:17,559
Speaker 2: which you know, the college football is on is upon

2087
01:47:17,680 --> 01:47:20,280
Speaker 2: us ninety days or ninety days from the season. Now,

2088
01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:22,800
Speaker 2: there are a lot of things to discuss about you

2089
01:47:22,880 --> 01:47:26,599
Speaker 2: know what college football will look like in twenty six

2090
01:47:26,760 --> 01:47:30,160
Speaker 2: and beyond. But with the twenty twenty five season starting

2091
01:47:30,680 --> 01:47:33,680
Speaker 2: in less than a hundred days at least, you know

2092
01:47:33,840 --> 01:47:36,200
Speaker 2: how things are going to take shape this fall. Okay,

2093
01:47:37,560 --> 01:47:41,880
Speaker 2: what's interesting is, as you know, Boise State a solid program,

2094
01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:43,920
Speaker 2: but then you know they ran into a bus on

2095
01:47:44,080 --> 01:47:49,000
Speaker 2: Penn State. They were ranked ninth in the overall College

2096
01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:53,280
Speaker 2: Football Playoff rankings, but Poise State got the number three

2097
01:47:53,360 --> 01:47:55,479
Speaker 2: seed and as a bye because they were the third

2098
01:47:55,600 --> 01:47:59,320
Speaker 2: rank conference champ. The Arizona State, who had a great

2099
01:47:59,360 --> 01:48:05,080
Speaker 2: regular season in the great postseason, was simultaneously twelfth and fourth,

2100
01:48:05,360 --> 01:48:09,040
Speaker 2: so they were twelfth in the CFP rankings, but they

2101
01:48:09,080 --> 01:48:12,720
Speaker 2: were ranked fourth as the fourth rated conference champion. So

2102
01:48:12,880 --> 01:48:17,120
Speaker 2: Arizona State got a buy in the first round and

2103
01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:21,360
Speaker 2: then hosted Texas, I believe, And then you know, Boise

2104
01:48:21,479 --> 01:48:23,040
Speaker 2: State got a buying their first and then they hosted

2105
01:48:23,080 --> 01:48:26,519
Speaker 2: Penn State. And what did Oregon get for their troubles?

2106
01:48:26,960 --> 01:48:31,080
Speaker 2: They had a gauntlet to go through. So now we

2107
01:48:31,160 --> 01:48:33,320
Speaker 2: know the NFL does something similar. They give the top

2108
01:48:33,360 --> 01:48:36,839
Speaker 2: three seeds in each conference. You had again odd pairings

2109
01:48:36,920 --> 01:48:39,680
Speaker 2: last year nine to eight Tampa Bay hosted eleven and

2110
01:48:39,720 --> 01:48:43,559
Speaker 2: six Philadelphia two years ago, the ten and seven Los

2111
01:48:43,600 --> 01:48:47,000
Speaker 2: Angeles Rams hosted fourteen to three Minnesota last year. But

2112
01:48:47,120 --> 01:48:52,439
Speaker 2: from the start it's clear, certainly with college football, there

2113
01:48:52,520 --> 01:48:57,240
Speaker 2: was tremendous dissatisfaction win this approach. And when Boise State

2114
01:48:57,360 --> 01:49:01,599
Speaker 2: and Arizona State both lost in the quarterfinals, actually all

2115
01:49:01,640 --> 01:49:05,560
Speaker 2: four conference champions did, it became very clear that this

2116
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:08,800
Speaker 2: was going to have to change. Because if you've got

2117
01:49:08,880 --> 01:49:14,120
Speaker 2: a team ranked ninth, why are they getting a bye

2118
01:49:15,479 --> 01:49:19,120
Speaker 2: over a team who ranked third? Or check that, Yeah,

2119
01:49:19,880 --> 01:49:21,200
Speaker 2: that's what I meant to say, Or a team that

2120
01:49:21,320 --> 01:49:23,920
Speaker 2: ranked twelfth over a team that ranked fourth. So let's

2121
01:49:23,960 --> 01:49:27,720
Speaker 2: say let's say this would have been implemented last year.

2122
01:49:27,760 --> 01:49:30,400
Speaker 2: Here's what it would have looked like the first round.

2123
01:49:31,640 --> 01:49:35,160
Speaker 2: Twelve ranked Clemson would have visited number five Notre Dame,

2124
01:49:36,320 --> 01:49:41,200
Speaker 2: Arizona State would have gone to Ohio State, SMU would

2125
01:49:41,200 --> 01:49:47,280
Speaker 2: have gone to Tennessee. SMU did not have a good postseason,

2126
01:49:47,600 --> 01:49:51,400
Speaker 2: and Boise State would have traveled to Indiana. And what

2127
01:49:51,439 --> 01:49:54,000
Speaker 2: would the spreads have been in those games? Notre Dame

2128
01:49:54,040 --> 01:49:56,800
Speaker 2: would have everyboy thirteen over Clemson, Ohio State by twenty

2129
01:49:56,840 --> 01:49:59,960
Speaker 2: four over Arizona State, Tennessee would have been a SI

2130
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Speaker 2: even point favorite over Rest of You, and Indiana would

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01:50:02,920 --> 01:50:04,439
Speaker 2: have been a twelve and a half point favorite over

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Speaker 2: Boise I think that might have been a better contest.

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Speaker 2: But in last year's actual first round, the four teams

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01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:13,840
Speaker 2: home teams Notre Dame, Ohio State, Penn State, and Texas.

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Speaker 2: They were projected by as favorites by Rann averages seven points. Okay,

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01:50:20,120 --> 01:50:22,640
Speaker 2: but the results were actually much more lopsided than that,

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01:50:24,080 --> 01:50:28,160
Speaker 2: And I think it's because the teams that should have

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01:50:28,200 --> 01:50:30,720
Speaker 2: been matched up against each other were because they were

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Speaker 2: stuck on the conference champion. You were rewarded for being

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01:50:33,680 --> 01:50:39,360
Speaker 2: a conference champion irrespective of your record. Assuming all four

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Speaker 2: teams won in last year simulation, does anybody think Arizona

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Speaker 2: State would have beat Ohio State or Tennessee, Loston Home

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Speaker 2: SMU or Indiana Notre Dame. You get the picture. The

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Speaker 2: second round would have been Oregon versus Indiana, Penn State

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01:50:54,880 --> 01:50:59,679
Speaker 2: versus Notre Dame, Texas versus Ohio State, and Georgia versus Tennessee.

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01:51:01,479 --> 01:51:03,320
Speaker 2: And then you know, we might have ended up with

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01:51:03,439 --> 01:51:07,880
Speaker 2: the same final Notre Dame versus Ohio State. Fair enough,

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Speaker 2: but who would have benefit fitted from this change? Look,

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01:51:12,320 --> 01:51:15,720
Speaker 2: the truth of the matter is the teams that had

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01:51:15,760 --> 01:51:20,599
Speaker 2: the better record and the better resume during the regular

2151
01:51:20,680 --> 01:51:23,760
Speaker 2: season would have benefited. Now, I believe it or not,

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01:51:24,160 --> 01:51:26,000
Speaker 2: Ohio State won the whole thing, so it's moot, but

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01:51:26,040 --> 01:51:29,280
Speaker 2: they would have benefited. There's a vary answer. There's a

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01:51:29,439 --> 01:51:34,920
Speaker 2: table that some math wonks put out that shows, you know,

2155
01:51:34,960 --> 01:51:38,000
Speaker 2: an algorithm based on how these teams would have benefited

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01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:44,320
Speaker 2: based on a percentage basis. But it's it's mindless to

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Speaker 2: give a bunch of numbers on the air like this.

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Speaker 2: So look, what are the takeaways from this whole deal?

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01:51:51,200 --> 01:51:53,880
Speaker 2: The number five seed isn't quite as uniquely valuable. Now,

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01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:57,920
Speaker 2: remember last year, you really caught a break by being

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Speaker 2: a five seed. We never really got to see the

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01:52:01,360 --> 01:52:04,200
Speaker 2: twelve team playoff as originally in vision. Okay, we didn't

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01:52:04,240 --> 01:52:08,439
Speaker 2: because there were six conference champions earning bids from a

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01:52:08,600 --> 01:52:14,160
Speaker 2: universe that featured five power conferences. Okay. Now, instead, between

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Speaker 2: the adoption of the twelve team playoff and their actual

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01:52:17,600 --> 01:52:21,280
Speaker 2: arrival and the SEC adding Oklahoma and Texas, the Big

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01:52:21,400 --> 01:52:24,599
Speaker 2: Ten cannibalized the PAC twelve. You've really only got four

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Speaker 2: power conferences remaining, so we end up with only five

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01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:32,320
Speaker 2: conference champions. We get it, four power conferences, but it's

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Speaker 2: clearly a power conference tournament. That fifth one, I'll go

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01:52:35,360 --> 01:52:38,000
Speaker 2: to the Boise State team, who came from a good

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01:52:38,040 --> 01:52:42,200
Speaker 2: conference in Mount West, but certainly not a power conference conference.

2173
01:52:42,320 --> 01:52:45,679
Speaker 2: Titles mean less even more now you get the picture.

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01:52:45,720 --> 01:52:48,000
Speaker 2: I could go on and on, but I'm looking much

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01:52:48,080 --> 01:52:53,240
Speaker 2: more forward to this year's college football playoff tournament because

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01:52:53,280 --> 01:52:56,519
Speaker 2: it's going to make sense, much more so than the

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Speaker 2: NFL tournament, which I'll also look forward to. But frankly,

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01:53:01,360 --> 01:53:05,200
Speaker 2: I think it was a missed opportunity coming up. What's

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01:53:05,280 --> 01:53:08,519
Speaker 2: the latest with Aaron Rodgers. Did he possibly leave a

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01:53:08,600 --> 01:53:11,400
Speaker 2: hint this past week? Did you miss it? I'll clue

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Speaker 2: you in on Bernie Fraddle Company line from the Las

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Speaker 2: Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios. Give your lock. You're listening

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01:53:16,880 --> 01:53:20,360
Speaker 2: to the Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right,

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01:53:20,400 --> 01:53:25,160
Speaker 2: back at the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio Company.

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01:53:25,240 --> 01:53:29,640
Speaker 2: Lyon from our studios here in a Las Vegas. I

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01:53:29,720 --> 01:53:33,800
Speaker 2: want to talk about a very proud NFL franchise. They've

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01:53:33,840 --> 01:53:41,920
Speaker 2: won six Super Bowls and their quarterback who had been

2188
01:53:42,040 --> 01:53:44,960
Speaker 2: a starter for thirteen years and won a Super Bowl,

2189
01:53:45,920 --> 01:53:52,200
Speaker 2: Ben Roethlisberger, retired four years ago. And really the Steelers

2190
01:53:52,240 --> 01:53:56,000
Speaker 2: are now had to have been in quarterback purgatory and

2191
01:53:56,120 --> 01:54:01,040
Speaker 2: it's continuing into this year. They're in this odd situations.

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01:54:01,360 --> 01:54:04,320
Speaker 2: They seem to be preparing for a season without a quarterback,

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01:54:04,479 --> 01:54:06,559
Speaker 2: or with a quarterback, wasn't even a quarterback? Where am

2194
01:54:06,600 --> 01:54:10,080
Speaker 2: I going with this? They're still waiting on Aaron Rodgers.

2195
01:54:10,640 --> 01:54:13,960
Speaker 2: And you know, Mike Tomlin is a very measured guy.

2196
01:54:14,000 --> 01:54:15,559
Speaker 2: I don't know why people are calling for his head.

2197
01:54:15,840 --> 01:54:17,360
Speaker 2: I think it was one of the best coaches in

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Speaker 2: the NFL. You tell me who else would have won

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01:54:19,520 --> 01:54:21,439
Speaker 2: with the squad the last four years or gone far

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01:54:21,560 --> 01:54:23,479
Speaker 2: in the playoffs with all the things that have happened,

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01:54:24,600 --> 01:54:26,479
Speaker 2: he said about three weeks ago, you'd like to have

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Speaker 2: settled circumstances, but you know, deadlines don't often bring that

2203
01:54:29,240 --> 01:54:33,560
Speaker 2: to a head. He's right, okay, But I want to

2204
01:54:33,560 --> 01:54:35,200
Speaker 2: get to the Steelers a little bit of credit. They're

2205
01:54:35,240 --> 01:54:38,200
Speaker 2: not in quarterback desperation mode. They didn't reach into the draft.

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01:54:38,200 --> 01:54:40,200
Speaker 2: They're smart all right.

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01:54:40,400 --> 01:54:40,520
Speaker 22: Now.

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01:54:40,600 --> 01:54:44,520
Speaker 2: You may not agree with me, but Omar Kahn, their GM,

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Speaker 2: and Mike Tomlin are on the same page. And here's

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01:54:47,560 --> 01:54:49,800
Speaker 2: their quarterback room. So if you're a Steelers fan, I

2211
01:54:49,880 --> 01:54:51,800
Speaker 2: know you've got RL Burns from her rosary hoping they

2212
01:54:51,840 --> 01:54:55,080
Speaker 2: figure something out. Mason Rudolph their third string QB two

2213
01:54:55,160 --> 01:54:58,560
Speaker 2: years ago. He returned in free agency. Well, he helped

2214
01:54:58,600 --> 01:55:00,440
Speaker 2: a Titan to be so bad. In twenty twenty four,

2215
01:55:00,480 --> 01:55:04,160
Speaker 2: they drafted Cam Mooreton number one overall. Now, Mason Rudolph's

2216
01:55:04,320 --> 01:55:05,880
Speaker 2: decent quarterback, but he's not going to get you to

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01:55:05,960 --> 01:55:09,600
Speaker 2: a super Bowl. How about Skyler Thompson, a journeyman backup

2218
01:55:09,640 --> 01:55:12,960
Speaker 2: heading into his fourth NFL season. Then you've got Will Howard,

2219
01:55:13,520 --> 01:55:16,920
Speaker 2: a sixth round rookie out of Ohio State via Kansas State.

2220
01:55:17,920 --> 01:55:21,680
Speaker 2: And that's a whole quarterback room with total of cumulative

2221
01:55:21,840 --> 01:55:26,200
Speaker 2: history five thousand NFL passing yards. That's not good. A

2222
01:55:26,240 --> 01:55:28,760
Speaker 2: lot of teams handled their quarterback situations a lot more

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01:55:28,800 --> 01:55:32,680
Speaker 2: aggressively this season. For one example, the Jets guaranteed thirty

2224
01:55:32,720 --> 01:55:36,320
Speaker 2: million to Justin Fields, who started six games for Pittsburgh

2225
01:55:36,400 --> 01:55:38,720
Speaker 2: last year, and Pittsburgh benched him. And I know why

2226
01:55:39,520 --> 01:55:41,240
Speaker 2: he's fourteen and thirty as a starter. You can go

2227
01:55:41,280 --> 01:55:43,800
Speaker 2: out and prove me wrong this year. But that's a

2228
01:55:43,840 --> 01:55:46,920
Speaker 2: story for a different day. So most Steeler fans are

2229
01:55:47,080 --> 01:55:49,440
Speaker 2: now starting to give up on what used to be

2230
01:55:49,640 --> 01:55:53,560
Speaker 2: Steelers exceptionalism, the belief that there's just something special about

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01:55:53,600 --> 01:55:56,800
Speaker 2: the way they operate. But I contend the Steelers are

2232
01:55:56,840 --> 01:56:01,040
Speaker 2: a model stability. Even if that stability is stalled right now.

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01:56:01,640 --> 01:56:05,840
Speaker 2: It's a little bizarre, it's a little unsettling. There seems

2234
01:56:05,880 --> 01:56:08,040
Speaker 2: to be, according to seeing some people, some kind of

2235
01:56:08,160 --> 01:56:12,200
Speaker 2: backdoor handshake deal with Rogers, and maybe they're gonna get

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01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:18,240
Speaker 2: this done. Okay, if this spills past June tenth, OTA's

2237
01:56:19,080 --> 01:56:21,640
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a red flag. There's no two ways

2238
01:56:21,680 --> 01:56:25,880
Speaker 2: about that. But on the other hand, just this past week,

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01:56:26,400 --> 01:56:29,320
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, who likes to be air on microphones, may

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Speaker 2: have dropped a hint. Huh. We know he's been linked

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Speaker 2: to the Pittsburgh Steelers all off season long. It's gotten

2242
01:56:35,840 --> 01:56:39,800
Speaker 2: to the point mat Rooney is basically comment about waiting

2243
01:56:39,840 --> 01:56:43,240
Speaker 2: for Rogers, and of course, Rogers, in two Rogers fashion,

2244
01:56:43,720 --> 01:56:46,480
Speaker 2: takes his time, leaves the whole world in limbo. That's

2245
01:56:46,560 --> 01:56:50,200
Speaker 2: just how he operates. But Rogers did drop an interesting

2246
01:56:50,320 --> 01:56:54,080
Speaker 2: hint this week about where he plans to end up now.

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01:56:54,960 --> 01:56:56,640
Speaker 2: And by the way, do you get the forty two

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01:56:56,760 --> 01:57:00,480
Speaker 2: year old Rogers who's severely declined even though he had

2249
01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:02,960
Speaker 2: a few good games last year, but he helped drive

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Speaker 2: the Jets franchise into a ditch. Maybe they were already

2251
01:57:06,400 --> 01:57:09,240
Speaker 2: in that ditch living in a van down by the river,

2252
01:57:10,360 --> 01:57:13,120
Speaker 2: but he is a four time MVP. Can he dial

2253
01:57:13,160 --> 01:57:16,640
Speaker 2: it up? One time? One season, a young fan went

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01:57:16,720 --> 01:57:19,120
Speaker 2: up there Aaron Rodgers and asked, would you ever sign

2255
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Speaker 2: with Chicago Bears. Rogers shot that down pretty quickly, but

2256
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Speaker 2: he did provide some insight on which team he's interested in.

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01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:30,840
Speaker 2: Rogers replied to the young fan he said no, but

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01:57:30,920 --> 01:57:34,080
Speaker 2: I believe there's a team that might play in Chicago

2259
01:57:34,240 --> 01:57:37,360
Speaker 2: this year on a road tip. I don't know, not sure,

2260
01:57:38,520 --> 01:57:42,840
Speaker 2: you better check it out. The Steelers just happened to

2261
01:57:42,920 --> 01:57:46,600
Speaker 2: be one of the visiting eight teams in the twenty

2262
01:57:46,640 --> 01:57:50,360
Speaker 2: twenty five schedule that will play a game in Soldier

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01:57:50,440 --> 01:57:54,640
Speaker 2: Field in Chicago this year. Now you're wondering who the

2264
01:57:54,680 --> 01:57:58,160
Speaker 2: other teams are, Well, Dallas, Detroit, and Green Bay they

2265
01:57:58,200 --> 01:58:00,960
Speaker 2: all visited Chicago as well. But they've got an established

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01:58:01,000 --> 01:58:04,280
Speaker 2: quarterback on their roster. A couple of other teams, the

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01:58:04,360 --> 01:58:07,400
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns and the New York Giants. You may not

2268
01:58:07,600 --> 01:58:11,160
Speaker 2: like their quarterback room, but they have death charts, even

2269
01:58:11,200 --> 01:58:16,480
Speaker 2: though they're messy. And that leaves the Minnesota Vikings. He

2270
01:58:16,600 --> 01:58:18,880
Speaker 2: seems to be you know, they seem to be ready

2271
01:58:18,920 --> 01:58:20,800
Speaker 2: to hand the keys of the car to JJ McCarthy.

2272
01:58:21,440 --> 01:58:23,720
Speaker 2: And then the New Orleans Saints, well, they just had

2273
01:58:23,800 --> 01:58:27,760
Speaker 2: Derek Carr suddenly retire, and some people tried to tie

2274
01:58:27,840 --> 01:58:32,720
Speaker 2: the Saints to Rogers, but uh, they're they're they're high

2275
01:58:32,760 --> 01:58:34,800
Speaker 2: on Tyler Shuck, so we'll just see what happens. They

2276
01:58:34,880 --> 01:58:38,040
Speaker 2: drafted him. We'll see what they do that leaves the Steelers.

2277
01:58:38,160 --> 01:58:42,760
Speaker 2: The only team is the likely spot that Rogers was

2278
01:58:42,800 --> 01:58:45,640
Speaker 2: hitting at. Now, if you're into reading tea leaves, and

2279
01:58:45,720 --> 01:58:52,720
Speaker 2: I'm not, every indication points to somehow this, this whole

2280
01:58:53,000 --> 01:58:56,960
Speaker 2: arrangement being consummated sometime before the season. But wouldn't you

2281
01:58:57,040 --> 01:58:59,680
Speaker 2: want to be in mini camp, wouldn't you want to

2282
01:58:59,720 --> 01:59:02,480
Speaker 2: be get the timing with your receivers. But again, into

2283
01:59:02,640 --> 01:59:07,640
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers fashion, he doesn't do anything conventionally, but he

2284
01:59:07,720 --> 01:59:09,760
Speaker 2: did drop a hint, so we'll have to wait and

2285
01:59:09,880 --> 01:59:13,920
Speaker 2: see what happens. Aaron Rodgers to the Steelers, Well, they

2286
01:59:13,960 --> 01:59:16,600
Speaker 2: do play in Chicago this year, and Aaron said it

2287
01:59:16,680 --> 01:59:19,160
Speaker 2: might be a team that plays in Chicago. Coming up.

2288
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Speaker 2: Jeff Austin from me CI, I'll join us talk about

2289
01:59:22,160 --> 01:59:24,560
Speaker 2: some things in the betting world and other sports headlines.

2290
01:59:24,680 --> 01:59:26,400
Speaker 2: Keep it locked to the Bernie Frattles Show on Fox.

2291
01:59:27,600 --> 01:59:29,440
Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

2292
01:59:30,640 --> 01:59:32,920
Speaker 2: That's right, you heard the man Bernie Fraddle Show keeps

2293
01:59:33,080 --> 01:59:35,520
Speaker 2: rolling right along. My name is Bernie Frattle. We are

2294
01:59:35,640 --> 01:59:38,400
Speaker 2: coming to a line from the Fox Sports Radio studios

2295
01:59:38,440 --> 01:59:43,840
Speaker 2: here in Vegas. It's been a very spirited show tonight. Again.

2296
01:59:43,960 --> 01:59:46,000
Speaker 2: Want to thank all the callers to the midnight hour

2297
01:59:46,800 --> 01:59:48,720
Speaker 2: and we may visit some of the subject matter with

2298
01:59:49,480 --> 01:59:53,360
Speaker 2: Jeff Austin's welcome and our guy from Boston runs ECI

2299
01:59:53,520 --> 01:59:56,800
Speaker 2: say hello to Jeff Dawston, a man of many hats. Jeff,

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01:59:56,800 --> 02:00:01,680
Speaker 2: appreciate you coming on again, buddyd.

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Speaker 15: Morning, Bernie. Happy Memorial Day weekend.

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Speaker 2: That's right, good, good on you. I haven't repeated that

2303
02:00:05,520 --> 02:00:07,920
Speaker 2: enough tonight Again we are the land of the Free

2304
02:00:08,000 --> 02:00:10,480
Speaker 2: because of the Braves. So good on you and some

2305
02:00:10,560 --> 02:00:12,680
Speaker 2: of the other callers for reminding me that I need

2306
02:00:12,760 --> 02:00:16,120
Speaker 2: to talk about Memorial They a little bit more fervently,

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02:00:16,640 --> 02:00:20,040
Speaker 2: real quickly. It seems like the Red Sox are always

2308
02:00:20,040 --> 02:00:22,040
Speaker 2: in the news. I mean, you got Rafael Devers hitting

2309
02:00:22,080 --> 02:00:24,400
Speaker 2: three zero three leads to league with forty at RBIs.

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02:00:25,080 --> 02:00:27,920
Speaker 2: But I'm hearing not good things about Alex Bregman. He

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02:00:28,040 --> 02:00:30,400
Speaker 2: may not be back for quite a while, but yet

2312
02:00:30,880 --> 02:00:33,680
Speaker 2: Devers is not at third base. You brought up a

2313
02:00:33,760 --> 02:00:37,800
Speaker 2: prospect and I'm named Marcelo Mayor, who I couldn't pick

2314
02:00:37,800 --> 02:00:39,240
Speaker 2: out of a police lineup, so you don't have to

2315
02:00:39,280 --> 02:00:42,120
Speaker 2: help you with that. And right now the position belongs

2316
02:00:42,160 --> 02:00:44,880
Speaker 2: to somebody named Nick Sogard. The Red Sox are in

2317
02:00:44,920 --> 02:00:47,320
Speaker 2: second place in the American League East. How do you

2318
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Speaker 2: replace it? You don't replace the Alex Bregman. But were

2319
02:00:50,040 --> 02:00:52,640
Speaker 2: you surprised that Rafael Devers was not back at third base?

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Speaker 15: You know, Bernie. A spring training that started with such

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02:00:59,640 --> 02:01:05,680
Speaker 15: an odd demism, the addition of Bregman, the kids in

2322
02:01:08,360 --> 02:01:12,080
Speaker 15: soon to be coming up. Let's say from Worcester, they

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02:01:13,640 --> 02:01:18,400
Speaker 15: bring over Crochet, they give him an extension. But right

2324
02:01:18,520 --> 02:01:22,920
Speaker 15: from spring training, when Bregman came to camp, that's when

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Speaker 15: the drama started. That's when Devers decided to grab his

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Speaker 15: glove and go back home for a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 15: Alex Cora, who's usually so strong with the team itself

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02:01:36,800 --> 02:01:41,240
Speaker 15: the locker room, kind of took this one on the chin. Bernie.

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Speaker 15: He went in in the corner and explained to Devers that, hey,

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Speaker 15: we're bringing Bregman in. Put your glove on the let's say,

2331
02:01:50,800 --> 02:01:54,520
Speaker 15: on the dugout. You're going to be the next David Ortiz.

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02:01:54,920 --> 02:01:57,280
Speaker 15: And it took a while, but he kind of warmed.

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02:01:57,000 --> 02:01:57,360
Speaker 3: Up to it.

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Speaker 15: And ever since then there's been the Cassis injury, now

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02:02:02,080 --> 02:02:04,520
Speaker 15: Bregman and injury that he had. I think they said

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Speaker 15: in twenty one, Bernie, and he was out for almost

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Speaker 15: two months, and in my eyes, Bregman was the heart

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02:02:12,600 --> 02:02:16,040
Speaker 15: and soul. He was the glue keeping the steam together.

2339
02:02:18,400 --> 02:02:20,880
Speaker 15: Really really going to be tough to replace.

2340
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Speaker 19: Here, Bernie talking.

2341
02:02:23,080 --> 02:02:25,640
Speaker 2: With Jeff Austin ECI, Jeff, I want to jump to

2342
02:02:25,680 --> 02:02:27,880
Speaker 2: the NBA Playoffs, but I want to get your perspective

2343
02:02:27,920 --> 02:02:33,040
Speaker 2: because this is your wheelhouse. Look, the Pacers Next Series

2344
02:02:33,200 --> 02:02:37,320
Speaker 2: always delivers, it always has throughout history, and we are

2345
02:02:37,440 --> 02:02:40,400
Speaker 2: seeing some you know, the old just when you think

2346
02:02:40,440 --> 02:02:42,840
Speaker 2: you've seen it all, you see something new. And this

2347
02:02:43,120 --> 02:02:46,960
Speaker 2: rivalry runs deep, it goes back thirty years. Okay, how

2348
02:02:47,040 --> 02:02:51,120
Speaker 2: has the handle been on that series Next Pacers, and

2349
02:02:51,240 --> 02:02:54,160
Speaker 2: how's the handle been in general this year for the

2350
02:02:54,520 --> 02:02:55,960
Speaker 2: NBA Playoffs.

2351
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Speaker 15: It's I think for fans perspective, it is absolutely great.

2352
02:03:03,200 --> 02:03:06,840
Speaker 15: For the fact that the defendant champs, the Celtics, So

2353
02:03:07,160 --> 02:03:13,120
Speaker 15: the preseason i'll say co favorites with Okac are not there.

2354
02:03:13,240 --> 02:03:16,840
Speaker 15: So we have that new blood injected there. We have

2355
02:03:17,080 --> 02:03:19,920
Speaker 15: the Mecca, we have Spike Lee, we have the Knicks

2356
02:03:20,440 --> 02:03:23,360
Speaker 15: and the Pacers going back to the Reggie Miller days

2357
02:03:23,760 --> 02:03:26,120
Speaker 15: and we had a you know, kind of one of

2358
02:03:26,200 --> 02:03:31,560
Speaker 15: those moments with Game one in Haliburton. So the handle. Listen,

2359
02:03:31,920 --> 02:03:37,120
Speaker 15: the handle hasn't been bigger in overall in sports. And

2360
02:03:37,240 --> 02:03:41,640
Speaker 15: I think with the new blood with OKAC, with ants

2361
02:03:41,840 --> 02:03:47,800
Speaker 15: out West now East, with Jalen Brunson with Haliburton, I

2362
02:03:47,960 --> 02:03:51,480
Speaker 15: think the NBA and the books are doing quite well.

2363
02:03:51,560 --> 02:03:55,000
Speaker 2: Burning all right, I want to jump to a guy

2364
02:03:56,200 --> 02:03:59,760
Speaker 2: that I'm going to be talking about here in about

2365
02:03:59,760 --> 02:04:04,200
Speaker 2: fifty ten minutes or maybe toward the end of the show.

2366
02:04:05,280 --> 02:04:06,960
Speaker 2: And this is a guy who's going to be paid

2367
02:04:06,960 --> 02:04:09,520
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty one million dollars this year, actually

2368
02:04:09,520 --> 02:04:11,320
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty one million, eight hundred and seventy

2369
02:04:11,320 --> 02:04:14,000
Speaker 2: five thousand, which is his salary plus the seventy five

2370
02:04:14,000 --> 02:04:16,480
Speaker 2: million dollars stunning bonus. You saw him up close and

2371
02:04:16,680 --> 02:04:19,720
Speaker 2: personal in Boston just a few days ago, and he

2372
02:04:19,840 --> 02:04:21,920
Speaker 2: not only had a poor series, he struck out on

2373
02:04:22,000 --> 02:04:24,720
Speaker 2: three pitches and consecutive bats in Game one, didn't take

2374
02:04:24,760 --> 02:04:29,000
Speaker 2: his bat off the shoulders. What are your impressions, now

2375
02:04:29,080 --> 02:04:31,680
Speaker 2: that you do impressions, What are your impressions of Juan Soda?

2376
02:04:31,760 --> 02:04:32,520
Speaker 2: What's going on there?

2377
02:04:32,600 --> 02:04:36,280
Speaker 15: Because I think this is not good, you know, it's

2378
02:04:36,400 --> 02:04:39,400
Speaker 15: kind of funny Bertie. He leaves the Nationals, goes to

2379
02:04:39,520 --> 02:04:43,320
Speaker 15: the Padres, and the Padres are expecting, you know, the

2380
02:04:43,440 --> 02:04:47,080
Speaker 15: next coming to Mickey Mantle here and what did he do?

2381
02:04:47,280 --> 02:04:51,400
Speaker 15: He had like one hundred and twenty something walks that year, Bertie.

2382
02:04:51,760 --> 02:04:54,720
Speaker 15: What So he's getting on base, but he's not driving

2383
02:04:54,800 --> 02:04:57,840
Speaker 15: in runs. He's not getting the forty to fifty home

2384
02:04:58,000 --> 02:05:01,720
Speaker 15: runs like Judge and others. Comes to New York for

2385
02:05:01,720 --> 02:05:06,200
Speaker 15: a year, protected by Aaron Judge again, has a great year,

2386
02:05:06,840 --> 02:05:12,120
Speaker 15: not Aaron Judge like numbers or tiny numbers. But hey,

2387
02:05:12,280 --> 02:05:15,160
Speaker 15: the Yankees with a runner up. They win the American

2388
02:05:15,240 --> 02:05:19,839
Speaker 15: League and they lose to the Dodgers in the World Series.

2389
02:05:20,360 --> 02:05:23,120
Speaker 15: Now there's a bidding war. The Mets want to get

2390
02:05:23,240 --> 02:05:27,919
Speaker 15: back on that front page of the post. They're excited.

2391
02:05:28,040 --> 02:05:28,680
Speaker 22: Here they come.

2392
02:05:28,760 --> 02:05:32,760
Speaker 15: Here comes their night and shining armor. It isn't worked

2393
02:05:33,000 --> 02:05:36,880
Speaker 15: that way again. He loves his walks, he loves to

2394
02:05:36,960 --> 02:05:41,520
Speaker 15: get on base. I don't think he's been He was

2395
02:05:41,640 --> 02:05:46,240
Speaker 15: embraced when they signed him. He was embraced in spring training.

2396
02:05:46,320 --> 02:05:48,480
Speaker 15: The Mets got off to a great sat even with

2397
02:05:48,600 --> 02:05:51,840
Speaker 15: all their injuries. He comes to town, like you said,

2398
02:05:51,880 --> 02:05:55,160
Speaker 15: he was kind of reprimanded in the midst of a

2399
02:05:55,280 --> 02:05:58,440
Speaker 15: middle of a mini slump, let's say, and you're right,

2400
02:05:58,640 --> 02:06:02,480
Speaker 15: he just left his battle on his shoulders. He broke

2401
02:06:02,560 --> 02:06:05,400
Speaker 15: the slump. I was watching last night on Fox Sports

2402
02:06:06,320 --> 02:06:11,640
Speaker 15: bases loaded double, so hopefully that will jump start him.

2403
02:06:11,960 --> 02:06:16,840
Speaker 15: But if you were expecting Aaron Judge in city field here,

2404
02:06:17,280 --> 02:06:21,160
Speaker 15: you're not getting Aaron Judge. So kind of a streaky hitter,

2405
02:06:21,280 --> 02:06:25,440
Speaker 15: but he has no problem Bernie taking the walk to

2406
02:06:25,520 --> 02:06:28,520
Speaker 15: get the first base versus the theatrics.

2407
02:06:29,680 --> 02:06:32,760
Speaker 2: Well, he's going to have to because right now, Jeff,

2408
02:06:32,800 --> 02:06:35,720
Speaker 2: he's hitting two thirty six and he's had almost a

2409
02:06:35,760 --> 02:06:38,520
Speaker 2: couple hundred bats, so we're forty games into the season.

2410
02:06:39,360 --> 02:06:42,000
Speaker 2: This doesn't project well. And when you're being paid seven

2411
02:06:42,080 --> 02:06:45,720
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty five million dollars. And I'm going to

2412
02:06:45,760 --> 02:06:49,640
Speaker 2: tell a quick story about the recent series with the Yankees,

2413
02:06:49,720 --> 02:06:52,000
Speaker 2: and he was very revealing. I think I'm wondering if

2414
02:06:52,000 --> 02:06:55,720
Speaker 2: both sides are really regretting this final thing, Jeff does.

2415
02:06:55,760 --> 02:06:57,560
Speaker 2: Did WNBA have much of a handle?

2416
02:06:59,640 --> 02:07:04,640
Speaker 15: Not anything? Like you know, football is king obviously, as

2417
02:07:04,680 --> 02:07:10,640
Speaker 15: you and your listeners know. If it's not Caitlin Clark,

2418
02:07:11,000 --> 02:07:14,880
Speaker 15: which I saw an article yesterday, She's covered like twenty

2419
02:07:15,080 --> 02:07:19,720
Speaker 15: five to twenty seven percent of all the marketing in

2420
02:07:20,000 --> 02:07:24,000
Speaker 15: all the numbers. You know, big game last night against

2421
02:07:24,040 --> 02:07:29,320
Speaker 15: the Liberty that they lose at home. Very you know,

2422
02:07:29,440 --> 02:07:33,160
Speaker 15: you'll see a Dave Portnoyd, big slip on DraftKings or

2423
02:07:33,200 --> 02:07:37,839
Speaker 15: something like that. Very minimal decent on the prop market.

2424
02:07:38,000 --> 02:07:43,200
Speaker 15: But if it's not Caitlin Clark, the actual handle itself,

2425
02:07:44,640 --> 02:07:48,920
Speaker 15: you know, goes with the other minor sports. But it's

2426
02:07:49,040 --> 02:07:53,400
Speaker 15: picking up. But let's just say none of the books

2427
02:07:53,480 --> 02:08:00,640
Speaker 15: are getting blown away by you know, gigantic number all.

2428
02:08:00,800 --> 02:08:04,400
Speaker 2: Bernie doesn't surprise me. I knew that would be the answer, because,

2429
02:08:05,360 --> 02:08:09,120
Speaker 2: let's face it, the story and I'm glad you mentioned it. Saturday,

2430
02:08:09,880 --> 02:08:12,680
Speaker 2: the defending champion of New York Liberty did have a

2431
02:08:12,840 --> 02:08:16,600
Speaker 2: tough game in Indiana one by two nine eight. Somebody

2432
02:08:16,680 --> 02:08:18,480
Speaker 2: pointed out that the Liberty went to the file line

2433
02:08:18,560 --> 02:08:22,040
Speaker 2: thirty two times and I fever only fifteen. That you

2434
02:08:22,120 --> 02:08:25,600
Speaker 2: can do with that what you will. But do you

2435
02:08:25,760 --> 02:08:28,800
Speaker 2: believe the recent ruckus that continues on social media and

2436
02:08:28,880 --> 02:08:31,080
Speaker 2: this infighting is good for the NWNBA.

2437
02:08:31,960 --> 02:08:34,800
Speaker 15: I had a great conversation yesterday with a good, good

2438
02:08:34,880 --> 02:08:38,760
Speaker 15: friend and colleague. You know when you look at your

2439
02:08:38,960 --> 02:08:44,000
Speaker 15: gift hours in the mouth and this is what's happening.

2440
02:08:44,600 --> 02:08:48,600
Speaker 15: I think it's a black guy, not just in the WNBA,

2441
02:08:48,800 --> 02:08:52,160
Speaker 15: but in sports here, Bernie. Here comes Caitlin Clark two

2442
02:08:52,240 --> 02:08:57,120
Speaker 15: years ago, last year that comes onto the scene and

2443
02:08:57,360 --> 02:09:03,200
Speaker 15: really takes that sport to the next level. Uh, from marketing,

2444
02:09:03,600 --> 02:09:08,760
Speaker 15: from attendance, from sales to actual flights to and from

2445
02:09:08,840 --> 02:09:15,160
Speaker 15: these games, and it just becomes I used the word jealousy, Bernie,

2446
02:09:15,480 --> 02:09:18,480
Speaker 15: and I go back to one of the first interviews

2447
02:09:18,560 --> 02:09:28,040
Speaker 15: with Sue Byrd and like Diana Torosi exactly, thank you

2448
02:09:28,560 --> 02:09:32,000
Speaker 15: uh uh, And it was almost so negative. These girls

2449
02:09:32,080 --> 02:09:35,920
Speaker 15: were jealous because they paved the way. Without them, there'd

2450
02:09:36,000 --> 02:09:41,160
Speaker 15: be no the w or WNBA, and Clark has just

2451
02:09:41,320 --> 02:09:44,480
Speaker 15: taking it to the next level. You had your magic

2452
02:09:44,600 --> 02:09:46,520
Speaker 15: and Larry what they were trying to do.

2453
02:09:46,800 --> 02:09:49,080
Speaker 11: Here, you had your villain and hero.

2454
02:09:49,600 --> 02:09:54,000
Speaker 15: With Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark. And now even to

2455
02:09:54,200 --> 02:09:57,920
Speaker 15: start this year, it's just in my eye, it's just

2456
02:09:58,040 --> 02:10:04,400
Speaker 15: becomes so negative with the racism, with all the negativity

2457
02:10:04,680 --> 02:10:08,400
Speaker 15: versus what she has brought to the sport. And now

2458
02:10:08,560 --> 02:10:11,480
Speaker 15: Paige Becker's is in the League and maybe you can

2459
02:10:11,600 --> 02:10:15,920
Speaker 15: grow with that. I really hope that it changes. And

2460
02:10:16,040 --> 02:10:19,560
Speaker 15: I think a lot has to do with today's social

2461
02:10:19,720 --> 02:10:24,560
Speaker 15: media and some of the people on the big platform plums.

2462
02:10:24,920 --> 02:10:28,920
Speaker 15: Instead of pushing it aside and talking about the positive,

2463
02:10:29,320 --> 02:10:33,560
Speaker 15: they're pushing the negative piece, Bernie, and it's not a

2464
02:10:33,680 --> 02:10:34,960
Speaker 15: good look at all. Bernie.

2465
02:10:35,880 --> 02:10:38,080
Speaker 2: Jeff, I'm an agreement real quickly. Tell the good folks

2466
02:10:38,120 --> 02:10:41,240
Speaker 2: where you can find it. Can find your work and

2467
02:10:41,280 --> 02:10:42,280
Speaker 2: all your good work you're doing.

2468
02:10:43,920 --> 02:10:48,240
Speaker 15: You can find me on x at Ecsports invest Or.

2469
02:10:48,360 --> 02:10:51,280
Speaker 15: You can go to our website at East Coast Sports

2470
02:10:51,400 --> 02:10:56,120
Speaker 15: Investors dot com. We give out information on a daily basis, Bernie,

2471
02:10:56,440 --> 02:11:00,280
Speaker 15: on all the major markets. We try to give about

2472
02:11:00,960 --> 02:11:06,160
Speaker 15: the sharpest numbers around it. And we're celebrating our tenth

2473
02:11:06,320 --> 02:11:11,040
Speaker 15: year of public service and very excited to help clients

2474
02:11:11,160 --> 02:11:16,200
Speaker 15: all around the world, just providing the best information possible, Bernie.

2475
02:11:16,960 --> 02:11:18,840
Speaker 2: Jeff, great stuff. Was always want to get you on

2476
02:11:18,960 --> 02:11:22,600
Speaker 2: in about three or four weeks again, because I have

2477
02:11:22,680 --> 02:11:24,120
Speaker 2: a lot, we have a lot of questions about the

2478
02:11:24,200 --> 02:11:26,520
Speaker 2: NBA draft. Jeff gets the rest keep up their great.

2479
02:11:26,360 --> 02:11:30,520
Speaker 15: Work, buddy, All right, Bernie, you too, You take care that.

2480
02:11:30,640 --> 02:11:34,600
Speaker 2: Is Jeff Dawson e CI man that wears many hats.

2481
02:11:34,640 --> 02:11:37,400
Speaker 2: One guy who's wearing one hat. It's a New York hat,

2482
02:11:37,880 --> 02:11:40,640
Speaker 2: but not the New York Andy were last year. There

2483
02:11:40,680 --> 02:11:44,520
Speaker 2: are some questions and concerns about mister Soda. I'm going

2484
02:11:44,600 --> 02:11:47,480
Speaker 2: to share them and maybe remind you about the contact

2485
02:11:47,560 --> 02:11:50,760
Speaker 2: details you forgot about, because I'll tell you what the

2486
02:11:50,880 --> 02:11:53,040
Speaker 2: Mets are paint a bundle and so far the ROI

2487
02:11:53,200 --> 02:11:57,320
Speaker 2: has not necessarily been there. I'm Bernie Friderwick kemedy Lyne

2488
02:11:57,360 --> 02:11:59,920
Speaker 2: from Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios. Keep it locked.

2489
02:12:00,120 --> 02:12:02,440
Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

2490
02:12:04,240 --> 02:12:07,120
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2491
02:12:07,160 --> 02:12:10,520
Speaker 4: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio

2492
02:12:10,640 --> 02:12:14,720
Speaker 4: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

2493
02:12:14,880 --> 02:12:15,480
Speaker 4: listen live.

2494
02:12:16,400 --> 02:12:19,040
Speaker 2: All right, back on the Bernie Frattle Show Fox Sports

2495
02:12:19,160 --> 02:12:22,840
Speaker 2: Radio comany live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios here

2496
02:12:22,880 --> 02:12:28,520
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. Ladies and gentlemen, meet Juan Soto. As

2497
02:12:28,600 --> 02:12:32,040
Speaker 2: you all know by now. Oh, let's see, it's been

2498
02:12:32,120 --> 02:12:37,600
Speaker 2: what about six five, six days ago, Juan Soto failed

2499
02:12:37,640 --> 02:12:41,160
Speaker 2: to hustle a hustle, hustle out of the batter's box.

2500
02:12:41,960 --> 02:12:44,440
Speaker 2: He hit a ball shot off the green Monster Monday

2501
02:12:44,520 --> 02:12:46,480
Speaker 2: night against the Boston Red Sox, the game when the

2502
02:12:46,480 --> 02:12:49,320
Speaker 2: Mets lost, and held himself to a three hundred and

2503
02:12:49,400 --> 02:12:52,600
Speaker 2: forty seven foot single. The whole world's seeing it by now.

2504
02:12:52,680 --> 02:12:55,680
Speaker 2: This is the second time, by the way, in just

2505
02:12:56,560 --> 02:13:00,920
Speaker 2: a matter of a few days, that Juan Soto's uh

2506
02:13:02,480 --> 02:13:06,080
Speaker 2: hustle was called into question. And he's drawing a lot

2507
02:13:06,120 --> 02:13:10,200
Speaker 2: of scrutiny and uh and and you know, I didn't

2508
02:13:10,200 --> 02:13:12,280
Speaker 2: even mention that he misjudged the you know, the ball

2509
02:13:12,320 --> 02:13:15,640
Speaker 2: that he hit. Look, he says, I've been hustling pretty hard.

2510
02:13:15,960 --> 02:13:20,520
Speaker 2: If you see it, you could tell no, not true. Okay,

2511
02:13:20,760 --> 02:13:23,400
Speaker 2: you're you're you went a little bad dad bob there.

2512
02:13:23,840 --> 02:13:27,480
Speaker 2: And because that's exactly what's not happening. And his employer,

2513
02:13:28,120 --> 02:13:31,720
Speaker 2: the New York Mets, I'm believing they're a lot more

2514
02:13:31,800 --> 02:13:34,040
Speaker 2: concerned about what's going on here than has made it

2515
02:13:34,120 --> 02:13:36,800
Speaker 2: to the mainstream. And it came to a head just

2516
02:13:36,840 --> 02:13:40,920
Speaker 2: a few days later after a weekend series against the

2517
02:13:40,960 --> 02:13:45,040
Speaker 2: New York Yankees. Here's what happened. You looked at the

2518
02:13:45,080 --> 02:13:49,120
Speaker 2: body language, You look at the facial expressions, and the

2519
02:13:49,240 --> 02:13:53,240
Speaker 2: banter and it seems to me Mets officials might be

2520
02:13:53,280 --> 02:13:57,400
Speaker 2: a little concerned about Juan Soto's lack of enthusiasm for

2521
02:13:57,520 --> 02:14:00,360
Speaker 2: his new team, because he seemed happy. It's a duly

2522
02:14:00,400 --> 02:14:04,120
Speaker 2: over the weekend when he was interacting with his former

2523
02:14:04,200 --> 02:14:08,280
Speaker 2: Yankee counterparts and manager Aaron Boone and even Aaron Judge

2524
02:14:08,960 --> 02:14:12,760
Speaker 2: during batting practice. In addition, Soto, who was supposed to

2525
02:14:12,760 --> 02:14:15,920
Speaker 2: be miked up for ESPN Sunday telecast, agreed to do

2526
02:14:16,000 --> 02:14:18,640
Speaker 2: it and then he backed out. He told the Mets

2527
02:14:18,680 --> 02:14:21,840
Speaker 2: he was tired of answering questions about Judge, although believe me,

2528
02:14:21,920 --> 02:14:24,960
Speaker 2: he liked hitting behind Judge. He benefited from that and

2529
02:14:25,120 --> 02:14:28,000
Speaker 2: his decision to leave the Yankees for the Mets. This

2530
02:14:28,200 --> 02:14:32,000
Speaker 2: confirms the theory among Met fans that there may be

2531
02:14:32,200 --> 02:14:36,840
Speaker 2: some remorse. There may be some remorse that Soto left

2532
02:14:36,920 --> 02:14:39,720
Speaker 2: New York Yankee used to go to the Mets, and

2533
02:14:41,360 --> 02:14:44,560
Speaker 2: you know, maybe the Mets have some remorse too. Soto

2534
02:14:44,640 --> 02:14:46,960
Speaker 2: also left the stadium Yankee Stadium and didn't even speak

2535
02:14:46,960 --> 02:14:49,400
Speaker 2: to the media after the Mets lost eight to two

2536
02:14:49,560 --> 02:14:52,480
Speaker 2: on Sunday night. Look Soto had a rough weekend against

2537
02:14:52,480 --> 02:14:54,760
Speaker 2: his former team. He went one for ten in the

2538
02:14:54,840 --> 02:14:57,920
Speaker 2: series and your Jeff say he likes to walk. He

2539
02:14:58,040 --> 02:15:02,160
Speaker 2: walk four times. He had an extremely hostile reception from

2540
02:15:02,240 --> 02:15:06,200
Speaker 2: Yankee fans that lasted throughout the whole three game series,

2541
02:15:07,200 --> 02:15:10,680
Speaker 2: and I think the irony is he was surprised by

2542
02:15:10,720 --> 02:15:16,240
Speaker 2: the ongoing strength and of that hostility. The reaction from

2543
02:15:16,360 --> 02:15:19,760
Speaker 2: Yankees fans obviously stems from his decision to leave the

2544
02:15:19,800 --> 02:15:23,720
Speaker 2: team in the offseason to join the Mets. Now he

2545
02:15:23,760 --> 02:15:26,880
Speaker 2: got seven hundred and sixty five million for it, and

2546
02:15:27,200 --> 02:15:28,840
Speaker 2: I think if you're the Mets, you have a right

2547
02:15:28,960 --> 02:15:33,760
Speaker 2: to think Sodo could be maybe a little bit more enthusiastic. Otherwise,

2548
02:15:34,240 --> 02:15:37,919
Speaker 2: this is a story and innuendo that's going to continue

2549
02:15:38,000 --> 02:15:43,080
Speaker 2: to gain momentum. Read a lot of comments after the series.

2550
02:15:43,200 --> 02:15:46,080
Speaker 2: One guy wrote in Soto lacks the energy he had

2551
02:15:46,160 --> 02:15:49,480
Speaker 2: with the Yankees. He misses Judge hitting behind him. Does

2552
02:15:49,520 --> 02:15:52,800
Speaker 2: he have remorse joining the Mets? Only Soto knows. We'll

2553
02:15:52,840 --> 02:15:56,120
Speaker 2: have to see how this goes throughout the season. But

2554
02:15:56,520 --> 02:16:00,520
Speaker 2: in case you're wondering, Sodo will be paid one hundred

2555
02:16:00,520 --> 02:16:02,720
Speaker 2: and twenty five million, one hundred and twenty one million,

2556
02:16:03,320 --> 02:16:05,720
Speaker 2: three hundred. Okay, let me try that again In English.

2557
02:16:06,120 --> 02:16:08,200
Speaker 2: One hundred and twenty one million, eight hundred and seventy

2558
02:16:08,240 --> 02:16:11,280
Speaker 2: five thousand this year because he got a seventy five

2559
02:16:11,400 --> 02:16:13,960
Speaker 2: million dollars signing bonus, and he's going to get a

2560
02:16:14,000 --> 02:16:17,480
Speaker 2: salary of forty six eight seventy five the next two years.

2561
02:16:18,080 --> 02:16:20,400
Speaker 2: Then you know forty three million and twenty twenty seven.

2562
02:16:20,480 --> 02:16:22,640
Speaker 2: And I don't need to read every salary. The point

2563
02:16:22,640 --> 02:16:24,960
Speaker 2: of the matter is it's a seven hundred and sixty

2564
02:16:25,040 --> 02:16:30,720
Speaker 2: five million dollar deal. But here's some context. Juan Soto,

2565
02:16:31,320 --> 02:16:33,959
Speaker 2: on average, will earn fifty one million a year. He's

2566
02:16:34,000 --> 02:16:36,520
Speaker 2: bat in two thirty six right now, he earns nine

2567
02:16:36,600 --> 02:16:39,520
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty thousand per week, one hundred and forty

2568
02:16:39,600 --> 02:16:44,200
Speaker 2: thousand per day, six thousand dollars an hour. And in

2569
02:16:44,280 --> 02:16:47,320
Speaker 2: the last two minutes that I've been talking about Juan Soto,

2570
02:16:47,400 --> 02:16:50,360
Speaker 2: assuming he's getting his beauty rest right now, he made

2571
02:16:50,360 --> 02:16:52,600
Speaker 2: two hundred dollars. He makes one hundred dollars a minute,

2572
02:16:54,400 --> 02:16:56,800
Speaker 2: whether he's going to the john or playing for the

2573
02:16:56,879 --> 02:17:00,120
Speaker 2: Yankees or sleeping. Oh, by the way, it's not, it's

2574
02:17:00,120 --> 02:17:02,040
Speaker 2: just that he got seven hundred and sixty five million.

2575
02:17:02,680 --> 02:17:05,520
Speaker 2: Did you know Juan Soto also gets free use of

2576
02:17:05,600 --> 02:17:09,680
Speaker 2: a luxury suite and up to four premium tickets behind

2577
02:17:09,760 --> 02:17:12,320
Speaker 2: home played for regular season in postseason New York Mets

2578
02:17:12,400 --> 02:17:16,200
Speaker 2: games home games. He couldn't afford it. I mean you

2579
02:17:16,240 --> 02:17:18,640
Speaker 2: got to you gotta throw that in right, and a

2580
02:17:18,760 --> 02:17:22,920
Speaker 2: suite wasn't enough. He gets four of the highest paid

2581
02:17:22,959 --> 02:17:25,800
Speaker 2: seats in the house too. Now see here's the rub.

2582
02:17:26,360 --> 02:17:31,360
Speaker 2: The Yankees also offered Juan Soto seven hundred and sixty

2583
02:17:31,480 --> 02:17:36,360
Speaker 2: million over sixteen years. But the Yankees said, nah, we'll pass.

2584
02:17:36,800 --> 02:17:40,800
Speaker 2: We're not gonna budge because you're asking for a suite,

2585
02:17:41,680 --> 02:17:45,160
Speaker 2: We're not doing it. It would set historical precedent since

2586
02:17:45,640 --> 02:17:49,160
Speaker 2: guys like Aaron Judge and Derek Jeter, they not only

2587
02:17:49,200 --> 02:17:51,119
Speaker 2: didn't ask for a suite, they paid for their own

2588
02:17:51,200 --> 02:17:54,560
Speaker 2: at Yankee Stadium. But Wan Soto, oh no, no, that

2589
02:17:54,720 --> 02:17:57,480
Speaker 2: was the showstopper for him. Now, the other weird thing

2590
02:17:57,640 --> 02:18:01,440
Speaker 2: is there was something called the number twenty two claws.

2591
02:18:02,600 --> 02:18:04,920
Speaker 2: See last year the Mets had a third baseman named

2592
02:18:04,959 --> 02:18:07,840
Speaker 2: Brett Batty, and he wore number twenty two. Not just

2593
02:18:08,160 --> 02:18:12,760
Speaker 2: last year, but each of the past three seasons. Apparently,

2594
02:18:13,040 --> 02:18:17,400
Speaker 2: Soto decided, I'm not going to do what shoheo Tani

2595
02:18:17,480 --> 02:18:23,280
Speaker 2: did and be nice about it. When Shoheo Tani went

2596
02:18:23,360 --> 02:18:25,800
Speaker 2: to the Dodgers and he bought Joe Kelly a Porsche

2597
02:18:26,280 --> 02:18:30,720
Speaker 2: so he could get number seventeen. So Soto actually had

2598
02:18:30,720 --> 02:18:34,960
Speaker 2: a clause put in his contract that includes the fact

2599
02:18:35,400 --> 02:18:39,160
Speaker 2: that he has to be given number twenty two without

2600
02:18:39,240 --> 02:18:43,800
Speaker 2: having to even ask or speak to mister Baty about it. Yeah,

2601
02:18:45,200 --> 02:18:49,520
Speaker 2: so one Soto seventy five million dollar bonus seven hundred

2602
02:18:49,520 --> 02:18:52,240
Speaker 2: and sixty five million, fifty one million a year, nine

2603
02:18:52,280 --> 02:18:54,119
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty thousand a week, one hundred and forty

2604
02:18:54,160 --> 02:18:56,360
Speaker 2: k a day, six thousand an hour, and one hundred

2605
02:18:56,440 --> 02:18:59,520
Speaker 2: dollars a minute. Oh I'm not done. Did you know

2606
02:18:59,600 --> 02:19:06,200
Speaker 2: his part of Juan Soto's contract, he's provided security for

2607
02:19:07,840 --> 02:19:11,160
Speaker 2: him and his family for all road and home games.

2608
02:19:11,800 --> 02:19:18,160
Speaker 2: What is he? You know, an international dignitary? Is he's

2609
02:19:18,200 --> 02:19:20,000
Speaker 2: being threatened? I don't know, I don't I don't get this. Okay,

2610
02:19:20,920 --> 02:19:25,480
Speaker 2: now here's some other bonus clauses. If Juan Soto wins

2611
02:19:25,520 --> 02:19:29,320
Speaker 2: the MVP, he gets another five hundred thousand, and he

2612
02:19:29,440 --> 02:19:32,400
Speaker 2: gets if he wins a second MVP, he gets a

2613
02:19:32,480 --> 02:19:35,560
Speaker 2: million dollars for every MVP after that. But even if

2614
02:19:35,600 --> 02:19:38,600
Speaker 2: he just finishes in the top three in the MVP,

2615
02:19:38,720 --> 02:19:41,120
Speaker 2: he gets two hundred and fifty thousand, and if he

2616
02:19:41,200 --> 02:19:45,760
Speaker 2: finishes in the top five of MVP voting, he gets

2617
02:19:45,760 --> 02:19:48,720
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty thousand. So if that doesn't make

2618
02:19:48,760 --> 02:19:51,320
Speaker 2: your head spin and you want you say to yourself, here,

2619
02:19:51,720 --> 02:19:56,840
Speaker 2: here's the key number. Two thirty six and three forty seven.

2620
02:19:57,600 --> 02:20:01,960
Speaker 2: Three hundred and forty seven shot off the wall and

2621
02:20:02,080 --> 02:20:04,000
Speaker 2: he turns it into a single because he doesn't hustle

2622
02:20:04,560 --> 02:20:10,640
Speaker 2: and he came under a lot of backlash. Two thirty six.

2623
02:20:10,800 --> 02:20:13,280
Speaker 2: That's Jan SODA's batting average. I will give him the

2624
02:20:13,360 --> 02:20:15,480
Speaker 2: full year. He had to eighty eight. Last year with

2625
02:20:15,520 --> 02:20:20,320
Speaker 2: the Yankees, had a good offensive year. Different situation. But

2626
02:20:20,800 --> 02:20:23,520
Speaker 2: when you start talking about former teammates, and it even

2627
02:20:23,600 --> 02:20:26,120
Speaker 2: had got to a point where Aaron Judge had to

2628
02:20:26,200 --> 02:20:33,280
Speaker 2: issue a response in what was considered some controversial comments

2629
02:20:33,320 --> 02:20:36,400
Speaker 2: to matter if you're his new employer, Soto admitted playing

2630
02:20:36,440 --> 02:20:38,720
Speaker 2: with the Mets has been different without having Judge hit

2631
02:20:38,800 --> 02:20:41,480
Speaker 2: behind him. He admitted it, so it admits he was

2632
02:20:41,560 --> 02:20:44,560
Speaker 2: being pitched differently without Judge because Judge is a big threat.

2633
02:20:45,160 --> 02:20:47,680
Speaker 2: It's definitely different. Quote Soto said, I had the best

2634
02:20:47,720 --> 02:20:50,280
Speaker 2: hitter in baseball behind me. I was getting more attacked

2635
02:20:50,560 --> 02:20:52,920
Speaker 2: and more pitches in the strike zone, less intentional walks

2636
02:20:52,959 --> 02:20:54,879
Speaker 2: and things like that. I was pitched differently last year.

2637
02:20:55,840 --> 02:21:00,600
Speaker 2: People felt those comments had some virus remorse about joining

2638
02:21:00,640 --> 02:21:03,200
Speaker 2: the Mets instead of remaining with the Yankees. But to

2639
02:21:03,320 --> 02:21:07,200
Speaker 2: draw another player into it wasn't smart. Give Aaron Judge credit.

2640
02:21:07,720 --> 02:21:11,320
Speaker 2: He refused to take debate, pointing out Soto still has

2641
02:21:11,400 --> 02:21:14,120
Speaker 2: a forminal slugger hitting behind him, a guy by the

2642
02:21:14,200 --> 02:21:17,360
Speaker 2: name of Pete Alonzo hidink. Pete Alonzo feels about that,

2643
02:21:18,080 --> 02:21:20,920
Speaker 2: and Judge says, I'm not going I'm not going back

2644
02:21:20,959 --> 02:21:22,400
Speaker 2: and forth. He's got one of the best hitters in

2645
02:21:22,440 --> 02:21:26,119
Speaker 2: the game hitting behind him in Pete Alonzo. So Soto,

2646
02:21:26,600 --> 02:21:30,359
Speaker 2: so far, he's caused drama among Mets fans, among writers,

2647
02:21:30,720 --> 02:21:34,080
Speaker 2: and even try to draw the Yankees into it. Presumably

2648
02:21:34,560 --> 02:21:37,400
Speaker 2: he had to know losing Judge as a teammate would

2649
02:21:37,400 --> 02:21:40,280
Speaker 2: have some impact on his numbers. On the other hand,

2650
02:21:41,440 --> 02:21:43,480
Speaker 2: Juan Soto continues to be an enigma. He's on his

2651
02:21:43,600 --> 02:21:47,360
Speaker 2: fourth team, a superstar in air quotes, but there's no

2652
02:21:47,520 --> 02:21:50,680
Speaker 2: question he's dangerous. But where am I going with this

2653
02:21:51,120 --> 02:21:55,080
Speaker 2: real simple? I really think Juan Soto having some regrets

2654
02:21:55,360 --> 02:21:57,520
Speaker 2: not staying with the Yankees, and it would only be

2655
02:21:57,640 --> 02:22:01,680
Speaker 2: natural if the Yankees had some the Mets had some regrets,

2656
02:22:02,600 --> 02:22:04,480
Speaker 2: pointing you up that number. But let's see where this

2657
02:22:04,600 --> 02:22:08,240
Speaker 2: thing ends up. Well, you know, we covered all on

2658
02:22:08,320 --> 02:22:11,920
Speaker 2: this show from American Football, Flag Football, Great Callers tonight

2659
02:22:12,000 --> 02:22:14,320
Speaker 2: again by the way, on the midnight hour, including that

2660
02:22:14,400 --> 02:22:19,880
Speaker 2: other football spelled futbol that we call soccer. Here in

2661
02:22:19,959 --> 02:22:22,840
Speaker 2: the good old us of A. It's time Chris Perfetts

2662
02:22:22,879 --> 02:22:23,720
Speaker 2: World of Soccer.

2663
02:22:24,879 --> 02:22:35,320
Speaker 27: The greatest goals, the thrilling finishes, the international drum.

2664
02:22:40,720 --> 02:22:44,120
Speaker 1: It's all here in this report from the world of soccer.

2665
02:22:44,560 --> 02:22:47,160
Speaker 28: Some amazing scenes from around the world of soccer. Bernie

2666
02:22:47,760 --> 02:22:50,320
Speaker 28: More to come on Sunday as the last day of

2667
02:22:50,360 --> 02:22:54,240
Speaker 28: the English Premier League will be played. Every club in

2668
02:22:54,520 --> 02:22:56,960
Speaker 28: action and the big thing to watch of course one

2669
02:22:57,160 --> 02:23:00,000
Speaker 28: through five heading to the Champions League next year.

2670
02:23:00,200 --> 02:23:03,000
Speaker 1: Really three for five is up for grabs right now.

2671
02:23:03,080 --> 02:23:07,400
Speaker 28: Which means Manchester City, Newcastle United, Chelsea and on the outside,

2672
02:23:07,560 --> 02:23:11,120
Speaker 28: Aston Villa and Nottingham Forrest all kind of looking for

2673
02:23:11,200 --> 02:23:15,440
Speaker 28: a spot and really just seeing who will stumble who

2674
02:23:15,520 --> 02:23:18,680
Speaker 28: can get in. It's going to be extremely fascinating, and

2675
02:23:18,760 --> 02:23:22,600
Speaker 28: we started off Friday with such fun scenes too. We've

2676
02:23:22,760 --> 02:23:25,080
Speaker 28: already announced all the winners for most of the major

2677
02:23:25,160 --> 02:23:27,800
Speaker 28: leagues across Europe except for Italy. We had kept telling

2678
02:23:27,879 --> 02:23:30,800
Speaker 28: you to watch Italy my favorite league in the world, Syria,

2679
02:23:31,200 --> 02:23:35,160
Speaker 28: because it was just drama throughout. On the final day,

2680
02:23:35,640 --> 02:23:38,040
Speaker 28: you had two matches being played at the same time

2681
02:23:38,240 --> 02:23:43,840
Speaker 28: on Friday, as Inter Milan was taking on the side

2682
02:23:44,000 --> 02:23:48,840
Speaker 28: Como and Napoli was taking on Cagliari. Napoli had seventy

2683
02:23:48,920 --> 02:23:52,840
Speaker 28: nine points an Inter had seventy eight. Napoli not used

2684
02:23:52,920 --> 02:23:55,480
Speaker 28: to a ton of titles in their history outside of

2685
02:23:55,520 --> 02:23:58,320
Speaker 28: the age of Maridona, although they claimed one two years ago,

2686
02:23:58,640 --> 02:24:02,000
Speaker 28: and Inter of course one of the giants of Italian soccer.

2687
02:24:02,600 --> 02:24:06,280
Speaker 28: And what scenes across there as Napoly looked to the

2688
02:24:06,360 --> 02:24:09,119
Speaker 28: two men that they had had all year, the Scottish

2689
02:24:09,160 --> 02:24:13,959
Speaker 28: Scott mcdominey and Romolo Lucaku from Belgium, and both them

2690
02:24:14,040 --> 02:24:17,280
Speaker 28: scoring goals here and Locacu won a cap to.

2691
02:24:17,480 --> 02:24:19,520
Speaker 1: His illustrious career.

2692
02:24:20,080 --> 02:24:25,040
Speaker 28: As as Knopoly closes in and has their second title

2693
02:24:25,120 --> 02:24:28,280
Speaker 28: in three years, Kanti their manager won the legends of

2694
02:24:28,360 --> 02:24:30,200
Speaker 28: the game and to be rewarded like this.

2695
02:24:30,480 --> 02:24:33,560
Speaker 1: It was scenes across Naples.

2696
02:24:34,240 --> 02:24:35,720
Speaker 4: It's their fourth title in club.

2697
02:24:35,680 --> 02:24:38,920
Speaker 28: History again, two in the last three years, Napoli, and

2698
02:24:39,240 --> 02:24:42,560
Speaker 28: we we're talking about a club where that two years

2699
02:24:42,560 --> 02:24:46,920
Speaker 28: ago they didn't even win it with the same real core. Cavak,

2700
02:24:46,959 --> 02:24:50,879
Speaker 28: Shelia and Ossaman. Those were the guys who really spearheaded

2701
02:24:50,920 --> 02:24:53,879
Speaker 28: it there. For Napoly to really change this along has

2702
02:24:53,920 --> 02:24:56,959
Speaker 28: been nothing short of magical and could end up seeing

2703
02:24:57,000 --> 02:24:59,320
Speaker 28: them become a destination for a lot of big players,

2704
02:25:00,120 --> 02:25:02,600
Speaker 28: including Kevin de Brugna, who is going to be a

2705
02:25:02,680 --> 02:25:06,040
Speaker 28: free transfer or free agent out of Manchester City once

2706
02:25:06,120 --> 02:25:09,280
Speaker 28: they finished their game here on Sunday, and it could

2707
02:25:09,360 --> 02:25:12,640
Speaker 28: be edging towards him joining Napoli to give them some

2708
02:25:13,080 --> 02:25:17,280
Speaker 28: extra firepower. Great scenes on Saturday as the Women's Champions

2709
02:25:17,360 --> 02:25:20,800
Speaker 28: League is won by Arsenal, and that brings us to

2710
02:25:20,920 --> 02:25:24,400
Speaker 28: the Men's Champions League which will be happening next weekend

2711
02:25:24,920 --> 02:25:29,480
Speaker 28: Saturday May thirty, first three pm Eastern Paris Saint Germain

2712
02:25:30,000 --> 02:25:33,120
Speaker 28: and Internacional Milan. We just mentioned them earlier. They had

2713
02:25:33,160 --> 02:25:36,080
Speaker 28: just stumbled and lost out in the Scudetto. It will

2714
02:25:36,120 --> 02:25:40,560
Speaker 28: be the Italian giants against the French giants. What a

2715
02:25:40,640 --> 02:25:42,960
Speaker 28: turnaround has been for Paris Saint Germain to lose their

2716
02:25:43,000 --> 02:25:47,000
Speaker 28: big three and still put together a leaner, more nastier squad,

2717
02:25:47,320 --> 02:25:51,199
Speaker 28: and for Internazional to see their dreams of an Italian

2718
02:25:51,280 --> 02:25:54,840
Speaker 28: title slip away and they have to focus now on

2719
02:25:55,000 --> 02:25:57,520
Speaker 28: the Champions League. In spite of the fantastic year they've

2720
02:25:57,560 --> 02:26:01,440
Speaker 28: had from Marcus Thram and Lotaro Martine. Both those players

2721
02:26:01,600 --> 02:26:05,240
Speaker 28: actually did not play in Inter's final game against Como.

2722
02:26:05,640 --> 02:26:08,600
Speaker 28: They were not a factor in a chance for them

2723
02:26:08,720 --> 02:26:12,400
Speaker 28: to get the Scudetto, so they should be well rested

2724
02:26:12,760 --> 02:26:13,920
Speaker 28: for the Champions League.

2725
02:26:13,920 --> 02:26:15,640
Speaker 1: And for Inter, yeah, that is probably the.

2726
02:26:15,959 --> 02:26:19,520
Speaker 28: Bigger title over the Scudetto, although that honor is still

2727
02:26:20,200 --> 02:26:22,520
Speaker 28: They're going to have to come back from that disappointment.

2728
02:26:22,560 --> 02:26:23,840
Speaker 28: They're going to have to wear that on the sleeve.

2729
02:26:23,840 --> 02:26:27,400
Speaker 28: Whereas PSG, who has always been focused on Champions League

2730
02:26:27,560 --> 02:26:30,040
Speaker 28: and never really has a lot of competition in French

2731
02:26:30,120 --> 02:26:33,600
Speaker 28: League One, is well rested, is ready to go and

2732
02:26:33,720 --> 02:26:36,480
Speaker 28: has had plenty of their guys seeing bench time as

2733
02:26:36,560 --> 02:26:41,199
Speaker 28: they get ready for this fantastic, fantastic showdown. Now PSG's

2734
02:26:41,280 --> 02:26:44,440
Speaker 28: had a turbulent journey through the inaugural league phase. They

2735
02:26:44,560 --> 02:26:48,320
Speaker 28: really struggled and had to get a knockout phase playoff

2736
02:26:48,400 --> 02:26:52,280
Speaker 28: win over Breast to really be in here by Inter meanwhile,

2737
02:26:52,400 --> 02:26:56,240
Speaker 28: had just been cruising through the league phase and just

2738
02:26:56,360 --> 02:27:00,400
Speaker 28: kind of had really a nasty game with Barcelona. Really

2739
02:27:00,520 --> 02:27:03,280
Speaker 28: not a lot of trouble to them throughout there. It

2740
02:27:03,440 --> 02:27:06,840
Speaker 28: is a classic matchup of offense in Paris versus the

2741
02:27:06,959 --> 02:27:11,840
Speaker 28: defense of Inter Milan. It makes it all extremely satisfying

2742
02:27:11,920 --> 02:27:14,080
Speaker 28: to watch. If you're going to ask me who I think,

2743
02:27:14,240 --> 02:27:16,959
Speaker 28: I really think my heart is behind Paris Saint Germaine

2744
02:27:16,959 --> 02:27:19,640
Speaker 28: at this point. They have been so close so many

2745
02:27:19,720 --> 02:27:23,400
Speaker 28: times on wanting to claim the Champions League title. I

2746
02:27:23,560 --> 02:27:27,959
Speaker 28: know it's in Milan's DNA and ters DNA for Champions

2747
02:27:28,040 --> 02:27:30,480
Speaker 28: League for UEFA titles, but this feels right.

2748
02:27:30,879 --> 02:27:33,560
Speaker 1: You look to the goalkeepers Jan Luigi.

2749
02:27:33,280 --> 02:27:36,520
Speaker 28: Dona Ruma probably in the net for PSG, and he

2750
02:27:36,760 --> 02:27:39,160
Speaker 28: is he's been for these big moments before. He was

2751
02:27:39,240 --> 02:27:42,800
Speaker 28: critical for Italy winning Euros a few years back. I

2752
02:27:43,720 --> 02:27:46,200
Speaker 28: really like this PSG squad and I think Inter is

2753
02:27:46,240 --> 02:27:47,960
Speaker 28: going to be really struggling to get over the heartbreak

2754
02:27:48,240 --> 02:27:50,920
Speaker 28: of missing out on their treble. We'll break down review

2755
02:27:50,959 --> 02:27:53,080
Speaker 28: the game next week. I always get missed the eyes

2756
02:27:53,120 --> 02:27:55,600
Speaker 28: we get near the end of the club season in Europe.

2757
02:27:55,920 --> 02:27:58,520
Speaker 28: We had some farewells from Ansoloti. It's kind of the

2758
02:27:58,760 --> 02:28:01,600
Speaker 28: end of an era Real Madrid. We didn't even get

2759
02:28:01,640 --> 02:28:04,640
Speaker 28: to touch on that on his departure and the applause

2760
02:28:04,680 --> 02:28:08,440
Speaker 28: he got coming out of the press corps or the

2761
02:28:08,760 --> 02:28:12,880
Speaker 28: applause that should be for Luka Modrik, who is also

2762
02:28:13,000 --> 02:28:14,880
Speaker 28: saying farewell to Real Madrid.

2763
02:28:14,959 --> 02:28:15,840
Speaker 1: We'll talk about them.

2764
02:28:15,760 --> 02:28:17,960
Speaker 28: As the offseason goes on and have all of this

2765
02:28:18,040 --> 02:28:20,920
Speaker 28: from the Champions League final next time on the World

2766
02:28:21,000 --> 02:28:21,440
Speaker 28: of Soccer.

2767
02:28:23,040 --> 02:28:28,080
Speaker 2: All right, that's a mouthful. Well coming up, we wrap

2768
02:28:28,200 --> 02:28:31,440
Speaker 2: up the show and I tell you what I can't

2769
02:28:31,480 --> 02:28:35,640
Speaker 2: wait later on tonight. Indiana Pacers and the New York

2770
02:28:35,720 --> 02:28:39,800
Speaker 2: Knicks teed up again. Never seems to fail to surprise

2771
02:28:39,920 --> 02:28:43,320
Speaker 2: and deliver. This is gonna be an epic game. The

2772
02:28:43,520 --> 02:28:46,080
Speaker 2: Pacers are home now, they lead the series two zip.

2773
02:28:46,600 --> 02:28:50,000
Speaker 2: They're a one and a half point favorite, and coming up,

2774
02:28:50,080 --> 02:28:53,240
Speaker 2: I want to give you a quick walk down memory

2775
02:28:53,320 --> 02:28:57,080
Speaker 2: lane and how really truly deep this Knicks Pacers rivalry

2776
02:28:57,920 --> 02:29:02,360
Speaker 2: really goes and how it's start it with a head butt.

2777
02:29:02,560 --> 02:29:04,520
Speaker 2: Believe it or not, I'll give you the details coming up.

2778
02:29:04,560 --> 02:29:07,360
Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, now that the NFL schedules

2779
02:29:07,400 --> 02:29:09,880
Speaker 2: are out, you have designs on going to a game,

2780
02:29:10,480 --> 02:29:13,920
Speaker 2: we'll talk about some of the purchase prices already going

2781
02:29:14,040 --> 02:29:16,560
Speaker 2: through the roof the five priciest games of the year.

2782
02:29:18,160 --> 02:29:23,040
Speaker 2: And believe it or not, well, the Eagles Cowboys rematch

2783
02:29:23,680 --> 02:29:26,000
Speaker 2: at seven hundred and sixth a ticket on September fourth,

2784
02:29:26,320 --> 02:29:28,800
Speaker 2: isn't the highest one. We'll get to that coming up.

2785
02:29:29,000 --> 02:29:31,000
Speaker 2: I'm Bernie Frattle. We're coming to a line from the

2786
02:29:31,000 --> 02:29:33,160
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio studios here in Las Vegas. Keep it

2787
02:29:33,200 --> 02:29:34,879
Speaker 2: locked and listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox

2788
02:29:34,879 --> 02:29:39,920
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. All right, we are wrapping it up on

2789
02:29:40,080 --> 02:29:44,440
Speaker 2: the Bernie Frattle Show. A big thanks to producers Mark

2790
02:29:45,000 --> 02:29:49,360
Speaker 2: and Brianna all your hard working professionalism is very much appreciated.

2791
02:29:52,080 --> 02:29:56,440
Speaker 2: Before I get to the intensity, history and depth and

2792
02:29:56,560 --> 02:30:03,039
Speaker 2: breadth of the Nixed Pacers rivalry, if you have designs

2793
02:30:03,040 --> 02:30:05,320
Speaker 2: and going to an NFL game this year, well they've obviously.

2794
02:30:05,400 --> 02:30:08,360
Speaker 2: The NFL's released their twenty twenty five schedules. And even

2795
02:30:08,400 --> 02:30:10,800
Speaker 2: though there are four months to go until the Eagles

2796
02:30:10,840 --> 02:30:15,840
Speaker 2: and Cowboys kick it off. Well, guess what. According to Tickpick,

2797
02:30:15,920 --> 02:30:18,480
Speaker 2: the average purchase price in twenty twenty five for an

2798
02:30:18,560 --> 02:30:21,959
Speaker 2: NFL ticket three hundred and three dollars a game. That's

2799
02:30:22,040 --> 02:30:25,440
Speaker 2: seventy five dollars more ticket than a season ago. Because again,

2800
02:30:25,560 --> 02:30:28,680
Speaker 2: that's at this point the number one priciest game of

2801
02:30:28,720 --> 02:30:32,400
Speaker 2: the year. The Chiefs versus the Eagles on September fourteenth,

2802
02:30:33,120 --> 02:30:37,920
Speaker 2: not surprising, seven hundred and forty nine dollars. That opening

2803
02:30:38,000 --> 02:30:43,720
Speaker 2: game September fourth, Eagles at Cowboys. That'll be fun. That's

2804
02:30:43,760 --> 02:30:46,080
Speaker 2: only seven hundred and six if you want to, so

2805
02:30:46,160 --> 02:30:48,720
Speaker 2: you get, you know, leftover money for beering a hot dog.

2806
02:30:50,320 --> 02:30:54,520
Speaker 2: Raiders and Cowboys interesting. Interesting, six hundred and seventy three

2807
02:30:54,560 --> 02:30:57,640
Speaker 2: dollars a ticket. That game will be played till November

2808
02:30:57,720 --> 02:31:02,720
Speaker 2: seventeenth Lions Packers. That's Thanksgiving weekend six hundred and fifty

2809
02:31:02,800 --> 02:31:07,160
Speaker 2: six dollars. And finally there's there go to that man again, Cowboys,

2810
02:31:07,520 --> 02:31:11,880
Speaker 2: Bears and Cowboys on September twenty first, six and twenty dollars.

2811
02:31:12,240 --> 02:31:17,160
Speaker 2: So go figure that one out of the priciest five

2812
02:31:17,280 --> 02:31:19,480
Speaker 2: games of the year, the Cowboys are involved in three

2813
02:31:19,520 --> 02:31:22,720
Speaker 2: of them. They're gonna stink again this year. They may

2814
02:31:22,800 --> 02:31:25,119
Speaker 2: improve from last year, they ain't going They're not going anywhere.

2815
02:31:25,879 --> 02:31:27,440
Speaker 2: You think they figured it out. I don't know. I

2816
02:31:27,480 --> 02:31:28,520
Speaker 2: don't think so. I don't think.

2817
02:31:29,560 --> 02:31:29,720
Speaker 24: You know.

2818
02:31:29,920 --> 02:31:32,720
Speaker 2: Jethropew and Bob Lily are walking through that door. Google him.

2819
02:31:32,720 --> 02:31:35,600
Speaker 2: That's when they were good. Well Tony, Okay, Emma, Samith,

2820
02:31:35,640 --> 02:31:43,560
Speaker 2: Troy Akan whatever, work with me. All right? I tell

2821
02:31:43,560 --> 02:31:46,760
Speaker 2: you what you you watch just right around the corner,

2822
02:31:46,800 --> 02:31:49,720
Speaker 2: what Tasa the NFL is gonna be king it already?

2823
02:31:49,879 --> 02:31:53,480
Speaker 2: Is you know what I mean? So there's proof right there.

2824
02:31:53,600 --> 02:31:57,280
Speaker 2: The hot ticket. I'll tell you what. The next Pacers

2825
02:31:57,360 --> 02:32:03,640
Speaker 2: is a hot ticket. I think because this is appointment

2826
02:32:03,720 --> 02:32:08,959
Speaker 2: viewing for any NBA fan, current, past, present, all three

2827
02:32:08,959 --> 02:32:12,800
Speaker 2: of the above. No one will ever convince me that

2828
02:32:12,920 --> 02:32:16,440
Speaker 2: the Knicks Pacers not only is one of the most intense,

2829
02:32:16,560 --> 02:32:19,560
Speaker 2: enduring rivalries in NBA history and one of the longest,

2830
02:32:20,959 --> 02:32:27,800
Speaker 2: it always continues to pay payoff. They have had eight

2831
02:32:27,920 --> 02:32:32,880
Speaker 2: postseason series in total, forty eight playoff games, and they've

2832
02:32:32,920 --> 02:32:38,560
Speaker 2: battled for Eastern Conference supremacy. But even though you've had

2833
02:32:38,640 --> 02:32:43,680
Speaker 2: different eras, different coaches, different players, the tension, and that's

2834
02:32:43,720 --> 02:32:46,760
Speaker 2: the key word here. Tension remains the same. And it

2835
02:32:46,840 --> 02:32:49,800
Speaker 2: all started in nineteen ninety three when the Knicks and

2836
02:32:50,360 --> 02:32:53,039
Speaker 2: Pacers first met. The Knicks won the series three games

2837
02:32:53,080 --> 02:32:55,000
Speaker 2: to one. Back then it was best of five in

2838
02:32:55,040 --> 02:32:58,640
Speaker 2: the opening round, but Game three changed everything. John Starks

2839
02:32:58,920 --> 02:33:02,560
Speaker 2: just that Johnston head butted Reggie Miller in a moment

2840
02:33:02,600 --> 02:33:06,160
Speaker 2: of rage that lit the fuse that set the next

2841
02:33:06,320 --> 02:33:10,000
Speaker 2: decade of playoff encounters off and running. From nineteen ninety

2842
02:33:10,040 --> 02:33:12,760
Speaker 2: three to two thousand, the Knickson Pacers met six times

2843
02:33:12,760 --> 02:33:16,400
Speaker 2: in the postseason. Northern NBA rivalry matched the frequency of

2844
02:33:16,480 --> 02:33:22,720
Speaker 2: ferocity seriously, and I covered Pistons, Lakers, Piston, Celtics, Pistons,

2845
02:33:22,800 --> 02:33:27,360
Speaker 2: Bulls in the postseason. This is when it really matters,

2846
02:33:27,400 --> 02:33:29,560
Speaker 2: the NBA really matters. As you know by now, it

2847
02:33:29,640 --> 02:33:33,440
Speaker 2: feels like the regular season more meaningless than ever. These

2848
02:33:33,520 --> 02:33:37,200
Speaker 2: games weren't just playoff series. They were blood wars. They

2849
02:33:37,240 --> 02:33:40,680
Speaker 2: were blood feuds, they were emotional wars. And you know,

2850
02:33:41,360 --> 02:33:43,520
Speaker 2: you started to see the same faces over and over.

2851
02:33:44,360 --> 02:33:47,560
Speaker 2: Reggie Miller, who was known for his clutch shots and

2852
02:33:47,680 --> 02:33:51,280
Speaker 2: trash talk. He'd loved going to New York and he

2853
02:33:51,440 --> 02:33:54,240
Speaker 2: often saved his best for the New York crowd, including

2854
02:33:54,400 --> 02:33:58,600
Speaker 2: Spike Lee, the self proclaimed Nick super fan, and he

2855
02:33:58,800 --> 02:34:03,200
Speaker 2: helped elevate that rivalry because he had courtside annex. Reggie

2856
02:34:03,240 --> 02:34:05,200
Speaker 2: Miller and Spike Lee used to go back and forth,

2857
02:34:05,240 --> 02:34:07,360
Speaker 2: and they're the coaches. Rick Carlyle, like I told you,

2858
02:34:08,160 --> 02:34:10,520
Speaker 2: I was up saw on Detroit covered in Detroit. He

2859
02:34:10,680 --> 02:34:14,680
Speaker 2: once served as an assistant with the Pacers before he

2860
02:34:14,800 --> 02:34:16,760
Speaker 2: was head coach of the Pacers for the first time

2861
02:34:16,840 --> 02:34:20,000
Speaker 2: and now the second time. Tom Thibodeau who's currently with

2862
02:34:20,080 --> 02:34:22,360
Speaker 2: the next he was an assistant during the same era

2863
02:34:22,920 --> 02:34:26,320
Speaker 2: that Rick Carlisle was an assistant in Indiana. Their presence

2864
02:34:26,680 --> 02:34:30,040
Speaker 2: adds to the tension. Let's jump to nineteen ninety four.

2865
02:34:30,080 --> 02:34:34,199
Speaker 2: In nineteen ninety five, that's when the rev the rivalry

2866
02:34:35,520 --> 02:34:40,000
Speaker 2: that the WNBA wishes Caitlin Clark and Adrian Rees have

2867
02:34:41,200 --> 02:34:45,080
Speaker 2: started to really reach a crescendo. In nineteen ninety four,

2868
02:34:45,680 --> 02:34:48,320
Speaker 2: Reggie Miller scored twenty four points in the fourth quarter

2869
02:34:48,400 --> 02:34:51,640
Speaker 2: of Game five at Madison Square Garden and he was

2870
02:34:51,800 --> 02:34:56,400
Speaker 2: taunting Spike Lee and made the choke sign, which you

2871
02:34:56,440 --> 02:34:59,040
Speaker 2: can find on YouTube, and it was one of the

2872
02:34:59,080 --> 02:35:03,680
Speaker 2: most iconic play playoff moments. Ever, and the Knicks actually

2873
02:35:04,160 --> 02:35:08,560
Speaker 2: won that series, but the Pacers said, we're here, We're

2874
02:35:08,640 --> 02:35:11,600
Speaker 2: making our presence known. The very next year, once again,

2875
02:35:11,720 --> 02:35:15,119
Speaker 2: Reggie Miller stunned the Knicks eight points in nine seconds.

2876
02:35:15,480 --> 02:35:17,920
Speaker 2: He had two threes and two free throws with under

2877
02:35:17,959 --> 02:35:21,760
Speaker 2: twenty seconds to go. They stole Game one, sounded for

2878
02:35:21,840 --> 02:35:25,840
Speaker 2: Mayer the way Indiana just stole Game one. Indiana actually

2879
02:35:26,160 --> 02:35:29,120
Speaker 2: won the series in seven games, eliminating the Knicks for

2880
02:35:29,200 --> 02:35:33,800
Speaker 2: the first time. Fast forward to nineteen ninety eight and

2881
02:35:33,920 --> 02:35:39,360
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine. Again the two familiar foes they clash again.

2882
02:35:40,200 --> 02:35:43,240
Speaker 2: Indiana won the nineteen ninety eight series in five games,

2883
02:35:44,080 --> 02:35:46,760
Speaker 2: with Reggie Miller once again delivering a bunch of daggers

2884
02:35:47,280 --> 02:35:50,280
Speaker 2: late in games. But the Knicks returned the favor In

2885
02:35:50,400 --> 02:35:54,080
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine, despite being the eight seed, New York

2886
02:35:54,160 --> 02:35:57,600
Speaker 2: upset the Pacers and Eastern Conference finals. Imagine that, unless

2887
02:35:57,680 --> 02:36:01,680
Speaker 2: we forget, that was the pat Riley coach team, the

2888
02:36:01,840 --> 02:36:05,440
Speaker 2: closest the Knicks have come to a championship since that

2889
02:36:05,600 --> 02:36:10,440
Speaker 2: epic team in nineteen seventy or seventy one, the famous

2890
02:36:10,680 --> 02:36:16,440
Speaker 2: Willis Reed game, and that year nineteen ninety nine, Larry

2891
02:36:16,520 --> 02:36:19,480
Speaker 2: Johnson had a four point play in Game three, which

2892
02:36:19,520 --> 02:36:22,680
Speaker 2: helped tilt the series. As I said, did reach the

2893
02:36:22,800 --> 02:36:26,520
Speaker 2: NBA Finals. Pat Riley came also close to giving the

2894
02:36:26,520 --> 02:36:29,760
Speaker 2: europe their championship. You can google your own John Starks.

2895
02:36:29,800 --> 02:36:31,200
Speaker 2: I know if people are in New York right now,

2896
02:36:31,240 --> 02:36:33,280
Speaker 2: don't drive off through it. I know you remember what happened.

2897
02:36:33,520 --> 02:36:37,160
Speaker 2: We'll just leave it right there. Indiana, though, was sent

2898
02:36:37,280 --> 02:36:41,840
Speaker 2: packing and they wondered what went wrong. Fast forward to

2899
02:36:41,920 --> 02:36:46,600
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. The Knicks Pacers rivalry, well, guess what

2900
02:36:46,800 --> 02:36:51,880
Speaker 2: it resurfaced last year during the Eastern Conference semifinals. The

2901
02:36:52,000 --> 02:36:55,119
Speaker 2: series win seven games, Indiana won four to three. Tyres

2902
02:36:55,280 --> 02:36:58,840
Speaker 2: Halliburton led the Pacers to their first conference finals in

2903
02:36:59,000 --> 02:37:04,080
Speaker 2: ten years. For the Knicks, another painful so On brand

2904
02:37:04,320 --> 02:37:09,080
Speaker 2: Nick's loss. But this rivalry was not over. New York

2905
02:37:09,160 --> 02:37:12,920
Speaker 2: retooled its roster in the offseason and now they're determined

2906
02:37:12,920 --> 02:37:14,680
Speaker 2: to get to the NBA Finals for the first time

2907
02:37:14,760 --> 02:37:17,720
Speaker 2: in twenty six years. But Indiana wants to break through

2908
02:37:18,480 --> 02:37:21,760
Speaker 2: for their first finals appearance in twenty five years. So

2909
02:37:21,840 --> 02:37:24,960
Speaker 2: you got two hungry teams and right now you've got

2910
02:37:25,040 --> 02:37:30,200
Speaker 2: the Indiana Pacers with a two to o lead. These

2911
02:37:30,240 --> 02:37:34,199
Speaker 2: are more than just games because what makes a rivalry

2912
02:37:34,520 --> 02:37:38,480
Speaker 2: legendary is the emotional weight it carries, not through a

2913
02:37:38,560 --> 02:37:41,360
Speaker 2: couple of months or a couple of years, but through

2914
02:37:41,400 --> 02:37:45,000
Speaker 2: a generation or two. Think about it. Because the fans

2915
02:37:45,080 --> 02:37:47,360
Speaker 2: in New York, you saw the pain on their faces

2916
02:37:47,360 --> 02:37:50,240
Speaker 2: when they were losing Game one and two. They remember

2917
02:37:50,320 --> 02:37:53,760
Speaker 2: the pain and it carries over. They want to cherish

2918
02:37:53,800 --> 02:37:56,440
Speaker 2: the victories. They find the villains, they find the heroes.

2919
02:37:56,840 --> 02:38:01,680
Speaker 2: The Knicks Pacers rivalry lives on because of these iconic

2920
02:38:01,760 --> 02:38:05,520
Speaker 2: moments and because both teams refuse to back down. He

2921
02:38:05,720 --> 02:38:08,480
Speaker 2: just had it the other night with Tyre's Halliburton throwing

2922
02:38:08,560 --> 02:38:11,760
Speaker 2: up that last second three, bouncing high up off the rim,

2923
02:38:12,160 --> 02:38:15,200
Speaker 2: dropping through the net. They celebrated, only it wasn't a three,

2924
02:38:15,240 --> 02:38:16,400
Speaker 2: it was a two. He had his foot on the

2925
02:38:16,480 --> 02:38:20,800
Speaker 2: line and it went over time. Even players like Jalen

2926
02:38:20,800 --> 02:38:23,560
Speaker 2: Brunson and Obi Topping, they have personal connection to the

2927
02:38:23,640 --> 02:38:26,600
Speaker 2: history because Brunson watched his father play in the rivalry.

2928
02:38:27,120 --> 02:38:30,359
Speaker 2: Topping started with the Knicks and now he plays for Indiana.

2929
02:38:31,080 --> 02:38:35,080
Speaker 2: Rivalry tradition, I'll ride a passage the Knicks and Pacers

2930
02:38:35,800 --> 02:38:39,640
Speaker 2: they tear it up again Sunday Night, Game three, expect

2931
02:38:39,680 --> 02:38:42,800
Speaker 2: more fireworks. No two teams in NBA history have played

2932
02:38:42,840 --> 02:38:45,879
Speaker 2: more playoffs against one another. That stat alone says everything.

2933
02:38:46,520 --> 02:38:49,360
Speaker 2: An NBA final spot is on the line in this series.

2934
02:38:49,720 --> 02:38:53,320
Speaker 2: Every possession matters, every moment. What's going to happen next?

2935
02:38:53,440 --> 02:38:56,640
Speaker 2: That's going to add lore to this rivalry. I can't

2936
02:38:56,680 --> 02:39:00,440
Speaker 2: wait for eight pm Eastern Time on Sunday night. Nixon

2937
02:39:00,480 --> 02:39:02,879
Speaker 2: Pagers can do it for the Bernie Frattle Show. See

2938
02:39:02,920 --> 02:39:05,360
Speaker 2: you next time. Keep in lock. The Great Andy Furman

2939
02:39:05,440 --> 02:39:07,560
Speaker 2: up next on Fox Sports Radio