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Speaker 2: Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos King,

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Speaker 2: the King of Reality TV and one of the most

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Speaker 2: the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the

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Speaker 2: entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable

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Speaker 2: moments that we are still talking and tweeting about. Yes,

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Speaker 2: welcome back to season two of Reality with the King. Listen,

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Speaker 2: I missed y'all. I know y'all missed me because y'allbreak

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Speaker 2: We are going to talk about some other reality shows

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Speaker 2: like last season, Child, I'm a dropper interview. Y'all will

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Speaker 2: The Real Housewives of Potomy Park one reunion. This reunion

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Plan, I love you, I miss.

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Speaker 2: You, I missed you more.

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Speaker 1: You were the one producer I could pull anything out

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Speaker 2: you're so so, but no, you weren't. Listen, Jacqueline was

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Speaker 1: We did an interview, and then they called and said

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Speaker 2: No, listen, you're so genuine. And the reason why I

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Speaker 1: So what happened was we came on being ourselves. This

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, And I will say this when it comes

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Speaker 2: I'm like the Jacqueline wait, not tell me and.

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Speaker 1: Tell your friend.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: You don't think the girls do that. We would always

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that, Carlos, How did you get under

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Speaker 2: I left video village where the producers were. I crawled.

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Speaker 2: It was a long table. And listen, I'm like five

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Speaker 2: that and how you just had to blurt out like,

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Speaker 2: No, you are a truth teller, And that's the reason

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Speaker 1: The last time I talked to Dina really was when

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Speaker 1: My husband has talked to her a few times. My

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Speaker 2: Way You're moving to the LC in June Exclusive. Look,

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Speaker 2: New Jersey. We could go on the LC Housewives.

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Speaker 1: I I at this point in my life, I think

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Speaker 2: Do you have anything fun to do, Jacqueline? I belong

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Speaker 1: You know. During the time of filming, so much was happening,

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Speaker 1: No, So it's you know, Caroline's the type of person

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Speaker 1: But I have no ill feelings towards like anyone my family.

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Speaker 1: So yes, I reached out to her when stuff happened

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Speaker 1: just wanted to know if she was okay, because originally

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00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 1: it came out like I thought she like beat her

432
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:23,679
Speaker 1: up or something happened.

433
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 3: I'm like, what the hell happened?

434
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 1: You know, I think it's been hard for her. I

435
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 1: don't have all the details still, I just you know,

436
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 1: I hear stuff in the press and I hear it,

437
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,640
Speaker 1: you know, but I don't really know. But anytime anybody's

438
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,879
Speaker 1: like you know, it's not good.

439
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, and we love you, Carolina. We're praying

440
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 2: for you, and you know you have a family over

441
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 2: here too, so I just wanted to say that that

442
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,439
Speaker 2: we love you. And yeah, look, we don't have all

443
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,159
Speaker 2: the details, like you said, everything is alleged, but at

444
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,400
Speaker 2: the end of the day, we are praying for Caroline

445
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 2: to heal after that situation.

446
00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 1: Definitely, it's like she went through her traumatic event, Dina

447
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,360
Speaker 1: would do her traumatic event, and it's just it's yes good.

448
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 2: What is good, though, is Teresa and Jacqueline broke the

449
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 2: internet with this five hour lunch in Vegas. So let

450
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 2: me tell you guys. I have been talking to Jacqueline

451
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 2: for months about coming on the podcast, and Jacqueline said,

452
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 2: I'm going to do it. The time has to be right.

453
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 2: I text Jacqueline last week and she said, I maybe

454
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 2: having dinner with an old friend and I so I'll

455
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 2: let you know after that, and I said, okay, and listen.

456
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 2: Because me and Jacqueline are friends and we know each other.

457
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 2: I didn't ask who. I kind of figure who it was.

458
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 2: My respose was yes.

459
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 1: I know because it's funny because I kept seeing like

460
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 1: Andy Cone kept bringing up my name on watching it

461
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 1: happens live, like with Teresa, I think it's time to

462
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 1: end that warn and you know, he would say little

463
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 1: things like bringing me up. And I heard her in

464
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: a few different things where she was saying like, you know,

465
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,120
Speaker 1: she would talk to me or I knew it was there,

466
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: but I didn't want to reach out because I didn't

467
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 1: want to get back into that world, like I was,

468
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: I'm good here whatever. You know, I didn't know how

469
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: she truly felt, because sometimes she'll say one thing I

470
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 1: didn't know, you know. And then one morning, I like

471
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: woke up to a text from her saying she was

472
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 1: going to be in Vegas and that she wanted to

473
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: meet me for a cup of coffee. And then she's like,

474
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 1: you can bring Chris, I'm going to have Louis. And

475
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 1: I was just like, I like sat up and I

476
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: like had to look at it again. I'm like, what

477
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 1: is this. I was in such shock, and I showed Chris,

478
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, uh, wees wants to meet for coffee?

479
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 2: What do you think?

480
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: Like I was just like I didn't know what you know,

481
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 1: and Chris was like, you should sit down. It's been

482
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 1: a long time. I think you should sit down and

483
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 1: talk to her. Just hear her out, see what she

484
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 1: has to say. And so we agreed to meet with her.

485
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 1: We were going to meet for breakfast.

486
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 3: But then we ended up meeting for lunch instead the

487
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 3: day before.

488
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 1: And I was like excited to see her, and it

489
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 1: was just weird when I saw her. And you know

490
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: how we fight, like we're two tauruses. We'd go ahead

491
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: head it's like collision, you know, but we saw each other,

492
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: we literally almost like it was almost like running towards

493
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 1: each other to hug each other. And she sat down

494
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 1: next to me. Louis sat across from Chris. We were

495
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: at Tiffriyani's at the Wynn in Las Vegas, and we

496
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,959
Speaker 1: just started like talking like no time it passed, and

497
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 1: we didn't even really address the old issues. We were

498
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,360
Speaker 1: just like catching each other up on everything they were

499
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: telling me about. You know, she has a step son, now, Nicholas,

500
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: who also has autism, you know, and his name is Nicholas.

501
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 1: So we were talking a lot about that and how

502
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 1: that came about, and you know, some of their stories

503
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,239
Speaker 1: and we were exchanging stories and just really catching up.

504
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 1: I know everyone was like, oh, they're meeting to you know,

505
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 1: do something with and I was kind of waiting to

506
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 1: see if there was like another motive to it, you know,

507
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: but there wasn't.

508
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 3: She was very genuine and just so sweet.

509
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: We both kind of just said, you know, during the

510
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: time of the show, we were both going through things

511
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: in our life that was very stressful. We have a

512
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: lot of pressure being on the show, not only from producers,

513
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 1: but people in our ears, you know, from people on

514
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: the cats or outside influences and stuff. So when you

515
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: have a lot of people in your ears and you're

516
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,959
Speaker 1: under a lot of stress and your things are happening

517
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: on the show, you don't really know who to trust. Anyway,

518
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: It's very hard to make up and maintain a friendship

519
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,239
Speaker 1: on a show like that because you know, it's kind

520
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 1: of about coming out with things. You could be thinking

521
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: something in your head and this was very hard for

522
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: me in the first interviews, but you don't say it

523
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: out loud because it hurts somebody's feelings, right, But you

524
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 1: learn on the show after a while, but the audience

525
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: doesn't know what you're thinking, So you've got to say

526
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 1: whatever it is you're thinking, to put it out there

527
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: so the audience knows what you're thinking. Because you are

528
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: on a show, I think more things are brought to

529
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 1: the surface than need to be when you're on a

530
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: reality show. And especially what people don't understand too, is

531
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: if there's a lot of things going on in the

532
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 1: press and the media, it has to be talked about

533
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,199
Speaker 1: on camera because you can't have all this going on

534
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 1: out here and then it not discussed on the show.

535
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: So like when you're being told, listen, everybody on the

536
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: show is talking about this and this and this, you

537
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: have to talk about it too. It causes a lot

538
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: of problems. So now that we're I'm away from the show,

539
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: I'm We're both in really good places in our lives.

540
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: We're both really happy in our lives where they are

541
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 1: right now and everything. I think that makes it easier

542
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: when you're away from the drama, you're away from the

543
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: toxic energy of the show, that now we can actually

544
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 1: because we were friends before the show, we're able to

545
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 1: be friends again after the show and just ignore, basically,

546
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: just forget the time on the show, because it's hard

547
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: to maintain a friendship when you're on the show because

548
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: something else is going to come around that's going to

549
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: cause a problem, you know, somewhere.

550
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 2: The elephant in the room is the fact that Teresa

551
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 2: was dealing with a lot of legal stuff. Teresa was

552
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 2: on the cover of those tabloids every week, and at

553
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 2: that time, I wasn't producing the show, but I get

554
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 2: as a producer, if it's in the press, you have

555
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 2: to talk about it. And the one thing that I

556
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 2: remember watching the show was Teresa didn't want to address

557
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 2: anything because I think some embarrassment was happening. You were

558
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 2: obviously like, I'm your friend, but I'm also doing my job.

559
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 2: It was weird, and that's why I appreciate the fact

560
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 2: that in this five hour lunch you don't have to

561
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,479
Speaker 2: address anything in the past because it's the past. And

562
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 2: what I tell people about Teresa is when I spoke

563
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 2: to her recently, she's the same woman. She's so funny.

564
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 2: And the fact that we saw loosing fl get back

565
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 2: together it made everyone happy because it goes to show

566
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 2: you that the issue you and Teresa had honestly, Jacqueline,

567
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 2: as a viewer at that time, watching it, I'm like,

568
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 2: it's not that serious.

569
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, we said hurtful things to each other

570
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: about each other, honestly, Like I haven't seen the Housewives

571
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: of New Jersey in years. I watched the reunions because

572
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: it kind of tells me the whole story. And I've

573
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: caught like a few key episodes and someone's like, oh,

574
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: you have to see you know this whatever, But like

575
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: on the reunions, she was very different like the person

576
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: I saw in the reunion In person, she was much

577
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: more humbled, very we very like. Her demeanor was very

578
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: different and just she was reminded me of the old Teresa.

579
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: I was like very happy to see her, and it

580
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: just like we picked up like no time had passed

581
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: and just laughing, talking, catching up with the girls. Gabriella

582
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: called while I was on the phone with her, Oh,

583
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: so I got to see her, and so it was

584
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: just really nice. And I had heard things about Louis,

585
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: but I didn't know anything about him, you know, I

586
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: just had heard things from other people.

587
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 3: I met him, I loved him. I thought he was

588
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 3: the nicest person.

589
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: You could tell he was very caring, an upbeat and positive,

590
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: and he was like, you know, Teresa's been wanting to

591
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: reach out to you for a long time, and you know,

592
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: I'm glad that she did it, so that made me happy.

593
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: I'm like she wanted to, but I think she knows

594
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: me like anybody who extends an olive branch. That was

595
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: meaningful of my life before with Teresa. We have a

596
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: history before the show and her I was just very

597
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: open to it.

598
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 3: It was like her fifth time making up.

599
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: But I think this time is for good.

600
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you different. I reconnected with Teresa, who

601
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 2: was so apologetic. She was like, I didn't invite you

602
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 2: to my wedding. I'm so sorry, Teresa. Our friendship is

603
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 2: not predicated on an invite your wedding. We picked up

604
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 2: where we left off. What you said the Teresa who

605
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 2: we talked to Jacqueline, that's not the person that's on

606
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 2: the show. And when I say that, I'm going to

607
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 2: say this because she's on the show with her brother

608
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 2: and her sister in law and with people who are

609
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 2: dealing with dramatic things. Teresa has to have her guard

610
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 2: up because she doesn't know and you know this being

611
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 2: on the shoe.

612
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: Shoulder, like who's bringing up what? Who's gonna say what?

613
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 2: Who's yes? And I'm glad you said that the fact

614
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 2: that Teresa humbly reached out to you, the Teresa who

615
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 2: you see on the show, you would think she'd be like, no, bitch,

616
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 2: you need to reach out to me. It's bitch better,

617
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 2: you know, like all that bad. Yeah, But but she's

618
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 2: she's so sweet. And one thing I will say to

619
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 2: the audience, and I'm glad you can echo this is

620
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 2: she literally is the same person. Obviously met her two

621
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 2: thousand and eight doing the show, but you knew her

622
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 2: before that that's who she is. And I think again,

623
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 2: her brother in law and Melissa just makes it hard

624
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 2: for her. A lot of people wanted to know because

625
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 2: you know, listen, I share that based on my conversation

626
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: with Teresa that she called me to let me know

627
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 2: she just found out Melissa was joining the show.

628
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 3: So I didn't know that she was also trying to

629
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 3: contact you.

630
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: I knew that afterwards that she was like reaching out

631
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: to Danielle telling her stuff. I found out later, but

632
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: I didn't know she was reaching out to producers trying

633
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: to get on the show. But the way I saw

634
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: that she got on the show, and then I'll tell

635
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: you Teresa's reaction and all that I thought because when

636
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: we would film, because Teresa always invited them to, like

637
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: the baby shower, the christening, her housewarming party. They were

638
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: there during filming, but Teresa always used to say while

639
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: we were Mike, don't talk to Melissa. She just wants

640
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: her face on camera, Like she knew what Melissa was about,

641
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: so she didn't want her to be noticed and on camera.

642
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: So guess what. As Teresa's friend, I didn't talk to

643
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: Melissa because I knew that Teresa didn't want me too,

644
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: so I didn't have anything to do with her because

645
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: of that. But she's saying that in her microphone. I'm

646
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: thinking the producers are hearing this, and she's like, who

647
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: doesn't she want filmed? Who's Melissa? Who you know? And

648
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: then she's on Facebook and you guys always look for

649
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: who's friends with, who related to who? They see them

650
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: fighting on Facebook over the Sprinkle cookies or something, and

651
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: I think that drew their attention even more. The producers. Actually,

652
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: a produce another producer told me this. They were looking

653
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,239
Speaker 1: at that like she doesn't want to be around them.

654
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: They're fighting on social media.

655
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 3: She was feeding Danielle.

656
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: With stuff information and I remember Melissa was scared about

657
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: that at one point she didn't want Danielle to come

658
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: out with what she had said to her.

659
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 3: And she didn't tell me what she said to her,

660
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,239
Speaker 3: but I can imagine.

661
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: What it all was then with her. I guess talking

662
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: to you, trying to get on the show and everything,

663
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: that's what kind of got them on the show. It

664
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: was about a week before filming when she found out,

665
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: I think, because I remember the christening was going to

666
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: be the first scene that they filmed. So Teresa was like,

667
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: I'm not doing this show, Like, I'm not filming with them.

668
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,959
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do it. She was so against it,

669
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: And I said, Teresa, why don't you just call your brother,

670
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: make up with them before you start filming and come

671
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: to an agreement that you're not going to fight on camera,

672
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: that you're just going to put the ship behind you,

673
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: you know, if they if they're going to be on

674
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: the show, get to a good place with them before filming.

675
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: And Teresa was like, fuck that, I'm not talking. You know.

676
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: She was so mad. She would not talk to them,

677
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I really think you should talk to

678
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: them before filming. Nope, nope, no. The night before the christening,

679
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: she still hadn't signed her contracts because I think we

680
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: had like renewed our contracts. We're getting more money or whatever.

681
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: She hadn't signed the night before, and I was like, Teresa,

682
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: I said, are you seriously going to go to this

683
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: christening tomorrow while they're miked up and have the cameras

684
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: all around them filming on the show that you put

685
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: on the map, you know, and you're just gonna hand

686
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:53,719
Speaker 1: it over to them, and you're going to watch them

687
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: from across the room, watch them filming. Then you called her.

688
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 2: She hung over.

689
00:33:58,880 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: You were calling her.

690
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 2: Yes, pill it, Jaqueline, Yeah. And then I.

691
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: Guess you talked her into it.

692
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,959
Speaker 2: I don't know how you did it, because I did,

693
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 2: I said to Teresa. So Jacqueline's right. I called her

694
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 2: back because Teresa called me and she said, I'm not filming.

695
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 2: I said, look, listen here, Teresa, this is your show.

696
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 2: You're not going to let anyone run you off your show.

697
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: Exactly.

698
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 2: Sign the contract and go to work tomorrow. And mind you,

699
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 2: I'm not a producer on the show anymore. But because

700
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 2: I love you, ladies, I said, go to work tomorrow,

701
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 2: and she said, okay, Fino.

702
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: So what happened was instead of talking to him before

703
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: she started filming and resolving it. She kind of thought,

704
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna act like nothing's wrong on camera, and

705
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: she went over to put her arms around, like, hey, guys,

706
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: what's going on guys?

707
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: You know, like she.

708
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: And then they were like, now you're being nice to us,

709
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: like they called her out on Cara. She was gonna

710
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 1: just to pretend like nothing was wrong, you know, but

711
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: if they wanted to come on the show and be peaceful,

712
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: why do that? Like I talked to them about it,

713
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: and they were so adamant about not they weren't going

714
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: to try to hurt her and you know that kind

715
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 1: of thing. But they're really good at playing the vay

716
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: Like they had a lot of stories about how Teresa

717
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: treated them and like a lot of things. I think

718
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: that they were just very I think they were upset

719
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: that they weren't included on her show when she was

720
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: on the show, and so now they're like, all right,

721
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna, you know, we're going to get on our

722
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: own way kind of thing.

723
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, And do you feel like that was the same

724
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 2: for Kathy and Rosie too.

725
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,720
Speaker 1: No, Kathy wasn't after Terri's like, no, I think Kathy

726
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,919
Speaker 1: just like someone had approached her about being on the show.

727
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: I guess through Melissa the Facebook or whatever. We had

728
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: reached out to her, and she didn't say anything at

729
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: first to Teresa because she didn't even know if they

730
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: were going to pick her, and she didn't want to

731
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: go through the whole interviewing process and then not get

732
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: on it and then have to be like, yeah, so

733
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: they didn't pick me for your show, you know kind

734
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: of thing. So she was waiting to see if she

735
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: got it first before she decided for sure if she

736
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: was going to do it or not, and she was

737
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,280
Speaker 1: gonna tell Teresa, but then she had gone away first.

738
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: They were trying to decide, Okay, are we really doing this,

739
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 1: and then when she got back, Teresa had already found out,

740
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: and then it was like a whole thing. But like,

741
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: I think she was going to tell her, and I

742
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: don't think Cathy's plan was to like get it. I

743
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 1: don't think she felt the same way about Teresa. They're

744
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: like Melissa and jo did agreed.

745
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 2: Now that makes sense, That makes a lot of sense.

746
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 2: Do you have any regrets on the show?

747
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 3: I mean, do I think I always handled myself?

748
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: Well? No, you know how it is like a lot

749
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: of the scenes are cut out too, and you're not

750
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: seeing the whole picture. That, like what got me to

751
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 1: certain places weren't shown, so that was annoying. I can't

752
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: say that I regreted, just because I always feel like

753
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: in life, things happened for a reason. You learn lessons

754
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: you I don't know, things happened to move you forward

755
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 1: and grow from.

756
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 2: And I loved you on the show because you were

757
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 2: always yourself and my match's point. Producing the first two

758
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 2: seasons and then watching the rest of the seasons. I

759
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 2: don't see any regrets based on you because you always

760
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 2: did what you wanted to do, and you were always

761
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 2: authentically you. You never wavered from like Carlos, this is

762
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 2: my truth, and I'm only going to do what I

763
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 2: feel is right, whether it gives me in trouble with

764
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 2: the family or my friendships.

765
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: I used to get calls from the producers the higher ups,

766
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: like because I wouldn't do something or like whatever, and

767
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: I would get in trouble and.

768
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 2: You did not even show up to a reunion.

769
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't show it to there because you know what,

770
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 3: I thought.

771
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 1: I quit it that way. I don't know if people realized.

772
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: But like, we wrapped season four finale the night before

773
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,760
Speaker 1: season three reunion, and we were not in a good place.

774
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,439
Speaker 1: I had already shut down off of filming. I didn't

775
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: know that my contract still had me on there another year,

776
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: so I had to come back the next season. But

777
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: but I really felt like I couldn't take any more.

778
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: That was at the height of Nick's regression. He was

779
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 1: not diagnosed it he was about to be diagnosed. I

780
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,439
Speaker 1: was fighting with. It was just so much negativity and

781
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: the whole Strippergate thing that like disgusted me that that

782
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 1: was like the whole thing. And like I had heard

783
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: they were bringing in Danielle was going to be there,

784
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 1: kim Ge was going to be there. I'm texting Caroline going, oh,

785
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: you're the target tonight, kim GE's on our way, you know,

786
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: Like because we were all trying to figure out who

787
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: the target was, because you know, the finale, someone's always

788
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: the target, and we wanted to know who the target was.

789
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 1: So like anytime I would hear something, I'd be like,

790
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: it's you. We were trying to figure it out. I

791
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: couldn't go to the season three reunion to pretend like

792
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: I'm great with Teresa, you know, because they didn't break

793
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:46,919
Speaker 1: that fourth wall.

794
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 3: Then well they kind of did it that reunion.

795
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 2: Well they had to because you're such a big part

796
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 2: of the show that they had to explain it somewhat.

797
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: I like, seriously have the biggest breakdown. I was like

798
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 1: my life Like at the time, I'm like with Nick

799
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: fighting the pressures the show, how ugly the show gets.

800
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: I just didn't want any part of it. I was

801
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: like screaming at the producers. You guys, it's like so bad.

802
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: I was like, not in a good place. I cried,

803
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: like it was terrible.

804
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, look you're in a great place now. How is

805
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 2: Ashley doing. Ashley's good.

806
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: She's got, you know, my grandson Cameron, who's now six,

807
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: and he's like the cutest thing. Like I love facetiming

808
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: with him. It just sucks that he's not here all

809
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 1: the time for me to, you know, but I spoil

810
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: him from Afar and she's a good mommy with him,

811
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 1: and you know, she's just she lives in New Jersey

812
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: and I live here.

813
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 2: What was the last time you spoke to Danielle Season

814
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 2: two reunion? Oh?

815
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: Really?

816
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:42,720
Speaker 2: Yeah?

817
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 3: Because remember she like hugged me and she's like yes. Well,

818
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 3: then we had gone to.

819
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: Do press and someone from the press outlet told me

820
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 1: she was trying to give them or tell them stories

821
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: about me. And they were like, yeah, she's trying to

822
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: give us these stories about you that blah blah blah

823
00:39:59,040 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: blah blah.

824
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 3: And I'm like, what I thought we made a truth?

825
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: Like why is she doing that? One of her friends

826
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: or fans or whatever turned on her started sending me

827
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: all their private dms where she was telling that girl

828
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: to attack me on social media and put.

829
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 3: This out and I was just like, what is she doing?

830
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 3: Like why is she doing that?

831
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: And then she was telling lies about my daughter to people,

832
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 1: things that weren't even true, and so I was like,

833
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: how can she just make this kind of stuff up

834
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: about people that to me is a dangerous person. And

835
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: I was just like, I'm not having anything to do

836
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: with her.

837
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 2: Are you open to a five hour lunch with Danielle? No?

838
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: Because I wasn't friends with her before the show? Yeah, No,

839
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: she too many dangerous lies and things it to me,

840
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 1: It's just I would rather keep my distance.

841
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 2: Would you ever do Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip?

842
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: Everybody asked me this. The thing is could I handle

843
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: two weeks on a girl's trip. Yes, I could handle it.

844
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 1: I could have fun even if I fought for two weeks.

845
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: It's two weeks of my life. I could handle it.

846
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: But really, sickly, I can't do it because I don't

847
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: have a sitter for two weeks. Long for me to

848
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: go on a trip like that to watch Nicholas.

849
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 2: It's only seven days. It is. You're there for like

850
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 2: seven days maximum, and then you get to go home.

851
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 1: Oh well even seven days?

852
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 3: No, no, but even seven days. Who would watch my

853
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 3: son for seven days?

854
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 2: All right?

855
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: Maybe with a combination of like CJ, my mom, Chris,

856
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: maybe I could juggle it. Maybe. But if anybody wants

857
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: to touch my boobies and vagina unwont wanted, I won't

858
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: say what I want to do.

859
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,720
Speaker 2: Jaccoline, thank you so much, bro appearing on the pod listen.

860
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 2: I am so happy you did this. I know you're

861
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 2: a busy woman and you have a lot going on

862
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: with the kids and everything. I just want to say

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