WEBVTT - John Krasinski & Craig Robinson Birthday Special 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.880 My favorite experiences with fans is when they think we've 0:00:02.920 --> 0:00:05.840 gone to school together or something. That's my favorite. Like 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:08.600 I had one where a woman said we know each 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:10.200 other and I said dewey, and she goes, we went 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:12.399 to school thegither and I was like, I don't. I 0:00:12.400 --> 0:00:14.480 don't think we did, and she went, yes we did. 0:00:15.120 --> 0:00:16.480 And it was like that thing of like why am 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:18.279 I being awkward about it? And where did you go 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:20.280 to school? And she said some school and I went, 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:21.760 I did not go to that school and she went, 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:25.639 yes you did, and like I was like okay, and 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:28.720 then I left and I could see that either someone else, 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:30.880 someone else has been like you don't know that person. 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:33.480 You just thought that it was at the Airport bookshop. 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:37.519 And then through the window you saw them being like silence, 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:46.640 being like, oh god, it was great. Oh. I'm John 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:49.400 Krasinski and I played Jim Helpert on The Office. Hi, 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:58.560 I'm Craig Robinson and I played Darryl on The Office. 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:03.520 Hi everyb and welcome back to Off the Beat, a 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:07.720 very special episode of Off the Beat. I am your host, 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:12.080 Brian baum Gartner. Now this is a pretty special week. Right, 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:18.280 It's October, We're we're nearing all hollows eve, if you will. 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:24.640 But also this week, many many many moons ago, two 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:29.040 of my absolute favorite people on the planet. We're born 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:33.760 John Krasinski, who you know Jim Halpert from the Office, 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:40.280 and Craig Robinson, who played everybody's favorite warehouse foreman Darryl Philban. 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:44.840 This year, well, I I have decided to put myself 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:47.920 in charge of the party planning committee. That's right, somebody 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:49.840 had to pick up the mantle. And I thought that 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:53.000 a great way to celebrate my friends would be to 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:57.800 go into the archives and revisit some of my conversations 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:02.520 with them. So that's why I'm gonna do. And you listeners, 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:06.840 you're in for a treat because these guys and our conversations, 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:11.560 they were pretty they were pretty great. First, we're gonna 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:15.240 go to John. Now you may not know this, but 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:19.000 John and I we don't live so close together anymore. 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:23.400 So I traveled all the way across the country to 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:27.800 New York City to meet him and to have this conversation. 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:31.360 And I have to say, from the moment that I 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:35.960 saw him, it was like zero time had passed. Now 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:39.480 these days, we've been in touch quite a lot because, 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:42.680 as you know we're in football season and the office 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:46.880 Fantasy Football league is it. It's eighteenth year. We're in 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:50.320 full swing, almost halfway through the season. I need to 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:54.680 update you. J K and I are tied. We're both 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:57.239 three and three. I have a few more points. I'm 0:02:57.280 --> 0:03:01.600 in fourth, He's in fifth. It's a race to the playoffs. 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:06.800 But worth noting Rain dead last twelfth place, and I 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:11.080 always need to bring up Rain's position, especially when he 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:16.400 is failing this year very very hard. Happy birthday, John, 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:21.720 I hope you all enjoy this best of off the 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:30.160 beat here. He is my pal, John Krasinski. Bubble and Squeak. 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:37.320 I love it. Bubble and squeak on Bubble and Squeaker 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:51.560 cookie every month, left over from the night before. He 0:03:52.200 --> 0:04:04.040 body just never Thanks for choosing to kill floor to 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:07.560 record this. Hey, what do you mean the little scariest darst? 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:11.320 I actually agree. I got out and looked I right 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:16.800 and was like, where I think I'm in the wrong spot? Oh, 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:22.000 what's up are you doing? Dude? What's your hats? Um? 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:24.039 How are you? By the way, just so you know 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:25.720 this is not Rebecca. I just want to teach you 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:28.600 about things when you were like found a place in Tribeca. 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:32.920 I didn't say that. I said this is this is horrible. 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:36.560 We're recording this on the Statland. It's literally horrible to 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:38.960 get here. I ended up getting out of my car 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:41.760 and walked because I'm still taking you in. I'm just 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:46.159 drinking you in. You have not changed. It's really frustrating 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:48.960 what everyone says that I really feel like I have. No, 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:52.080 you haven't. I certainly am. You have a lot. I'm elderly. 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:56.479 Why would you say that I feel elderly? Else I 0:04:56.480 --> 0:05:02.400 can't even say elderly. What's with the intense beer though? Um? 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:08.320 It started with laziness and then turned into winter, so 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:11.440 it's just insulation. Really, gotta be honest. My wife I 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:12.920 was gonna shave it, and she went, don't do that, 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:18.240 so she liked it. Hello, Um, I can't you know 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:20.600 I love No, I like it. No, I'm saying I 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:23.479 love it here here in New York just too cold. 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:26.280 We've moved on from the beard. Okay, well you talked 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:29.240 about winter. I thought that was a seamless transition. Get 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:33.360 ready for a lot of those I love it here. 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:37.800 You should move here. It's really cold and it's literally 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:39.960 the opposite of what you want. There's not a lot 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:42.960 of golf. You've really done the post office thing, right, 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:45.240 I'll tell you that. What do you mean, just you know, 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:50.520 show ends. You just become this like golfing extraordinaire. Like 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:57.520 people don't know that I was over in Monte Carlo, Monica, Monica, Monica, 0:05:57.680 --> 0:06:01.320 one of those ms. Yeah, that's Carlo and Monico. I 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:04.360 think it's kind of the same thing. I'm not clear of. 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:06.400 All I know is that I heard that you were there. 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:08.800 I texted you and you said, I'm going, oh my god, 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:12.200 this is great. I'm about to golf on a cliff 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:17.039 overlooking like nice or something. It was like cool, man, 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:22.200 sorry about your life. Um, look at that you had notes? 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:26.880 Is so official? No, no, I mean this is let's 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:28.880 get back to it. You've now gotten everybody almost other 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:32.920 than Steve basically, Uh yeah, Mike, sure, I'm gonna start 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:34.800 making this noise. I'm sure I'm gonna get that note 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:39.080 pretty soon. Yep, that's a nod in the back. Alison Jones. 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:42.920 Did you get Phillis? Yep? And I got them together 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:49.919 as Ah, that's awesome. Alison knew Phillis did not. Man, Yeah, 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:54.800 they were like mystics. They knew what was happening before 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:57.520 we did. In the casting process. They knew they were 0:06:57.560 --> 0:07:01.720 cooking something. But you started in New York, I did, Yeah, yeah, 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:03.920 so you just it was like what an open call 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:08.239 or you got called into I got, wow, the elderly 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:11.600 thing's taken it. I got I had just gotten a manager. 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:13.440 I had gone out to l A to shoot this 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:15.520 pilot and then they immediately didn't pick it up. And 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:17.960 before I left l A, my manager said you should 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:20.360 meet this person, Alison Jones. So I went by and 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:23.840 met her and wanted her to adopt me. And then 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:26.680 she said, you should pay attention to this thing coming 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:28.440 out soon and it's called The Office and you should 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:30.000 you should come in for it. And I said, oh, 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:31.880 that's really nice. So I got back to New York 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:35.119 and about three weeks later my manager called and said, 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:36.560 they want you to come in for the show called 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:39.640 The Office. And I was like, Alison Jones pro and 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:41.200 they said they want you to come in for the 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:45.720 role of Dwight. And at that point I had seen 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:49.320 and fallen in love with the British show. I was 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:52.200 down at Virgin Records. Remember that I was down at 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:55.760 Virgin Records and Union Square buying the like black DVD 0:07:55.920 --> 0:08:01.360 case with this special edition and just binge watching that thing. 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:04.040 And that's what made me so nervous, so that I 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:06.840 actually said, I don't know where I got I was 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:09.600 still waiting tables, and I don't know where I got 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:12.480 the confidence to go, yeah, no, I don't want to 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:14.560 go in for Dwight. Let me know when they're doing 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:19.040 the Tim character. And they basically said like, how dare you? 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:22.040 Who are you? And my manager did say he was 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:24.040 like wow, that didn't go great. They were very upset, 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:28.720 and then, very luckily for me, like four three four 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:31.360 weeks later, they still hadn't found a gym, and then 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:33.400 they were like, now you can come in for Jim 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:36.120 and I was like okay, and then I went in 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:39.520 trying to remember I guess I did one just with 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:43.880 the casting people. It was totally terrified, because not only 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:45.960 was I excited about the prospect of getting the part, 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:48.640 but I was also very nervous, Oh my god, I 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:50.240 don't want to be on one of those shows that 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:52.720 because I was such a TV nerd, and I remember 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:54.920 like Arrest of Development was coming out around then and 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:56.520 that was really good and smart, and I was like, 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:58.600 oh no, we're going to take a really good, smart 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:02.280 show and kill it. And while I was waiting in 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:05.400 the waiting room, six gyms that looked identical to me 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:07.920 had gone in and done their audition and left, and 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:09.760 we're like high fiving each other, and I was the 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:13.280 last one, and right at that exact moment, they were like, 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:15.240 we're gonna take a lunch break for an hour, and 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:18.320 I was like, oh, maybe see one more and we 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:21.199 get one more in and I sat there very nervous, 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:23.720 and everybody left. It was at thirty rock, and then 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:26.400 they came back with sandwiches and salads and someone sat 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:28.520 down across from me with a salad and said, you 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:30.160 know you're nervous, and I said, no, you know, you 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:33.080 either get these things or you don't. But I'm terrified 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:36.480 for the person creating a show, because I mean, I 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:39.520 I just feel like Americans have such a track record 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:42.920 of taking brilliant shows and ruining them. And he goes, 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:45.320 I'll try not to. My name is Greg Daniels. I'm 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:48.720 the executive ucer. And then I called my manager and said, 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:51.440 I'm going to leave now. There's no way I can 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:55.160 go into this room. And he was like you have to, 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:57.320 you have to go in, and you know, blah blah blah. 0:09:57.320 --> 0:09:59.480 And I went in and I remember opening the door 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:03.640 to a rorious laughter, and it was not laughter with me, 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:07.160 it was definitely laughter at me. And Greg was running 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:09.520 the room and very sweetly but just like this is 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:12.240 the guy who ruined his own life, and everybody was 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:17.640 like laughing, and it, weirdly was this bizarre blessing because 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:20.840 because they were already laughing, I felt like I was 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:23.320 already in my audition when I walked in, So I 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:27.440 just kept going and read some lines and they laughed. 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:30.480 And then later I remember Greg saying, I'll never forget that. 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:34.080 You told me that it really helped your audition because 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:36.560 you were really honest, and I remember I, that's the 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:38.800 vibe that I want on this show, someone who will 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:41.760 be honest and make sure that we're all doing good work. 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:43.520 And I was like totally. So now I go into 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:45.880 every audition for anything just being like, so this movie 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:51.400 sucks all right, hasn't worked since. But but the weirdest 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:53.160 thing was I came and I didn't know this that 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:57.240 there's a dynamic between New York actors and l A actors. 0:10:57.280 --> 0:11:00.760 Did you know this, it's like sharks and sets, Like 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:04.040 the New York actors go first because they flew in 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:07.160 for it. And I remember Jim Gaffigan was on my 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:11.560 plane auditioning for Steve's part, and we were all in 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:14.720 this room doing auditions, and I remember I got really 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:17.880 nervous because we had been auditioning for like two hours, 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:20.760 and then they like slowly were letting New York people go. 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:23.319 And then I watched all the l A people come 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:28.320 in and was just completely judging myself on them. Man, 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:31.600 I'm having like a an acid flashback. But two people 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:35.400 walked in that really blew my brain out. One was 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:38.840 bj Novak, who I hadn't seen really since high school. 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:41.160 We went to high school together, right, so you knew him, 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:43.319 and he walked in. He walked Yeah. I mean, imagine 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:46.640 like somebody from your high school walking into a bizarre scenario. 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:50.240 Already you're in some weird bizarro world auditioning to be 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:53.000 doing something pretend for the rest of your life, and 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:55.120 then that person walks in. It was an acid trip 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:56.800 and I was like hey, And then I got more 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:59.439 nervous because he acted and directed and everything in high school, 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:01.840 like he was already in and I was barely an actor. 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:03.360 I mean I wasn't an actor. I was a waiter. 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:05.880 And I was like, what part are you going out for? 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:07.360 And he was like, Oh, we're going I'm doing this 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:10.280 part called Ryan It's like and I was like, oh, 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:12.040 you're not going for gym? Then I might say, other 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:14.640 shot at this, and then I was like cool man, 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:18.240 that's awesome, and was super like giving myself a fist pump. 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:20.960 And then I know it sounds like a like a 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:23.760 fairy tale, but it's true. I remember Jenni Fisher walking 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:26.280 in and as soon as she crossed the threshold on 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:28.320 the door, I was like, well, that's it, Like that 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:32.240 is exactly who should play Pam. And then what happened 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:35.600 was I watched her go in with all the other 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:39.160 gyms and I was like, oh no, because like I 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:41.520 saw that they were just lining up the gyms with her, 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:44.000 and I was like, see, she's it's the tipping point. 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:47.840 She's it. And I remember saying to myself alone in 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:50.120 a corner, Uh, if I don't go in with her, 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:51.880 I know I don't have it. I know I don't 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:54.880 have it. And I never went in with her. And 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:57.600 then four hours after they had like go of all 0:12:57.600 --> 0:13:00.640 the New York guys. I was sitting there and stood 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:02.800 up and walked on set while they were in the 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:05.320 middle of someone's audition, and I was like, I'm so sorry. 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:07.160 I'm gonna leave now. I think you forgot to let 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:10.400 me go home. And from behind a door like a 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:13.280 fake wall, they were like all right, and then like 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:15.240 Greg came out and they're like, just give us thirty 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:18.240 more minutes, and I was like, and I was so insecure, 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:21.520 and then I turned around. I waited another fifteen twenty minutes, 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:23.000 and they were like one more, just come on in. 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:25.120 And I walked in and I saw that it was Jenna, 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:28.800 and I was like, oh my god, if I'm auditioning 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:32.160 with her, I'm back. You have a shot. And we 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:34.640 did a scene together that was awesome, and I remember 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:35.920 having so much fun with it. I think it was 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:38.240 at the copier. I think I think it was one 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:39.720 at the desk and one at the copier, and we 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:42.480 just had to improv about stuff. And then we were 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:44.600 walking out and I turned to her and I was like, 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:45.960 just so you know you're gonna get the part. I 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:47.240 know you're gonna get the part, and she was like, 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:49.679 oh my god, I said the same thing about you. 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:51.480 As soon as I saw you. I was like, that's 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:53.760 Jim and it was really weird and I was like 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:55.800 all right, And again I don't know why this happened, 0:13:55.840 --> 0:13:58.280 but when I got the part, which was amazing, I 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:00.520 legit jumped on a couch did and think that that 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:03.320 was real? And the only question I asked my manager 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:05.160 at the time was did Jennificer get it? It was 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:09.920 like I didn't even get fully happy until I knew 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:11.480 that she was doing the part because I was like, 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:15.280 if she's the part, then again, it's just that one 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:18.640 more step where like this might be good. It's so 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:21.800 interesting because that a four hour story and that was 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:26.640 really good. But what it um, it's interesting. I had 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:31.160 never heard this before. Greg said she was she was 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:34.560 it from the beginning. Yeah, it's weird, right like and 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:37.000 look is just so perfect for it. But then also 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:39.480 like I don't know, man, they were selling in her 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:41.400 delivery how like I don't know what the word is, 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:45.560 like demure or something. And she was so good. I 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:48.000 remember being so nervous when I was auditioning with her 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:51.320 because I was like, she was so subdued and under 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:53.440 where I was like, oh my god, I'm I'm like, 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:57.440 she's doing like physical comedy bits compared to you. So 0:14:57.480 --> 0:14:59.480 I just went super submerged and was like by the 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:03.160 end just being like like barely talking. So so does 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:07.520 she help you? Oh? For sure? Because again I knew 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:10.680 that my chance, my only chance, was with her, And 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:12.480 as soon as I started acting with her, I was like, dude, 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:15.400 this is the one. Don't blow this. So talk a 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:17.960 little bit about you're a fan of the British show. 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:22.200 We start work on a ratings are not good, but 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:25.080 are you feeling good about what we were doing? Oh 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:27.640 my god, yeah, I think you know, shooting the pilot, 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:29.480 we were all a little nervous, right, I think so 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:30.920 we all felt like, oh my god, we're gonna be 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:33.160 judged on the actual British script. At least that's what 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:35.760 I felt. But I was just so happy to be there. 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:41.960 I knew the group was working really well. I knew 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:44.760 the show like our like you said, the world was 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:47.360 really good, the vibe was really good, all the actors 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:51.640 were incredible, and I gotta be honest, it was probably 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:53.280 one of the reasons why I was able to keep 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:56.160 a level head because I didn't care if the show 0:15:56.240 --> 0:16:01.080 did well or not, because I asked, what's his name? 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:05.400 Oh my god, um, the executive that came every Friday, 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:08.520 and that like, super handsome dude. I'm gonna remember his name. 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:11.280 He was so nice. No, no, no, he's super handsome 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:18.640 as well. No, Jeff Engl, I gotta I gotta take 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:21.600 a nap after pulling that. Jeff was the nicest guy. 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:24.240 But don't you remember he would come down super nice, 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:27.560 dressed well, handsome ass guy and I'd be like, what's up, 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:30.600 Jap And he's like, oh, great, I love this episode. 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:33.400 This will be the last one. And I was like oh, 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:35.360 and he's like, yeah, it's just not getting the ratings 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:37.760 and the and the network doesn't get it. I love it, 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:39.560 but this is gonna be the last one. He said 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:43.120 that every week of the first season, those first six 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:48.240 are six totalt just every week, and so on the 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:52.120 like fifth week, I said to him, can you make 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:53.800 me a DVD so I can give it to my 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:55.840 mom so she at least knows that what I was 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:58.200 doing out here was real and that I wasn't like 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:01.960 living under a bridge I'm And he said, yes, I 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:05.040 still have that DVD that he wrote hand wrote on 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:09.960 it the Office episodes one through six, So that's kind 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:12.400 of all I cared about, was like, I definitely want 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:14.040 to show my friends because this will be one of 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:17.119 those things that's brilliant but canceled. And I want to 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:18.800 show my mom and I want her to know that 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:22.680 I'm okay. But I'll tell you I do know when 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:25.639 it changed for me was I used to go to 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:28.960 this same dinner every morning with my buddy Danny, and 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:32.120 on a Wednesday, because we used to air on Tuesdays. 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:34.879 I think that at that time, I walked it on 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:39.080 a Wednesday morning and the same diner, same people. We're 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:40.960 now looking up and be like, that's that's to do 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:43.520 from that show and it was sexual Harassment had aired 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:46.720 the night before. I at least that was my moment 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:49.920 that I've really knew something had changed, like people were 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:53.159 watching and it started. It was weird because I was 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:55.199 really happy about it, obviously, but I was also a 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:58.800 little freaked out because that's sort of like secret club 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:02.159 that we had was no longer secret. Obviously, it was 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:04.159 great that the secret cove was not secret, but it 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:06.000 was like a big transition for me. I remember that 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:09.280 it took me a while too that people knew who 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:13.760 I was was very weird. I also remember this moment 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:16.919 I was walking here in New York and I was 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:20.640 walking through and this guy put his hand up real 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:22.720 fast in my face and I thought I was getting assaulted. 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:25.600 And he was like, you're on my iPod, dude, And 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:28.879 I was like, what is an iPod? What are you 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:33.439 showing me? And there was my dumb face on his 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:35.480 whatever was like an inch by an inch or two 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:42.119 video iPod, big dial, big dial. That was trippy for me. Interesting. 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:45.320 And then the third and final thing was when we 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:49.600 got parodied on SNL. Remember Fred Armison did a weekend 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:53.199 update piece. He was pretending to be Steve Jobs or 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:54.960 was he talking about Steve Jobs. I think he was 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:57.040 pretending to be Steve Jobs. And he kept saying iPod 0:18:57.600 --> 0:19:02.120 and he was going iPod the office at Apple, the office, iPod, 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:05.400 iPod the office. And I remember that laughing really hard 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:07.359 because I loved everything Fred did, but I was also like, 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:10.080 whoa if we're being parodied on S and L, this 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:14.000 is big, I think for me. The first Christmas episode 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:16.680 that we did, that's kind of when the video iPod 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:19.919 came out, there was a deal with Apple as you 0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:22.520 as you reference that we were going to be on there, 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:25.159 and that's when we were in. Our second season was 0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:32.080 like six episodes, four episodessodes one more zero confidence. And 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:35.919 then I remember Greg saying it all, you know. I 0:19:35.960 --> 0:19:37.720 think a lot of people get to say, you know, 0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:39.360 we owe it all to our fans, but I think 0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:41.639 we might be the only show who actually owes it 0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:45.440 all to our fans. Because Greg told me that when 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:49.480 people started paying for shows that they could watch for 0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:53.560 free on their TV, then they had to pick up 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:55.840 the show. And I remember being like what that was 0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:59.359 just so mind blowing to me. Yeah. One of the 0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:03.520 things that we've been talking about are like comedy duos, right, 0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:06.320 And we talked about the ensemble, and it is like 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:11.320 the greater ensemble, but also like the pairings, like the 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:16.159 accountants Michael and Dwight, Dwight and Jim, you know, and 0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:20.320 and how all of those things the smaller groups work together. 0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:24.600 That's when I think the show became stratospheric, is when 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:28.760 you guys started having real storylines, you know what I mean. 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:32.520 Like I remember when like Creed had a big storyline 0:20:32.560 --> 0:20:34.400 for the first time, and I was like, this is it, man, 0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:37.680 This is like painting pictures with the four primary colors 0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:40.280 or using everything you have in the palette, and how 0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:43.359 much more beautiful. I remember feeling that the show is 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:47.600 like genuinely lifting off because like everyone, you know, all 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:52.160 those bullpen scenes got so much funnier when everybody was involved, 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:55.400 like Diversity Day, Diversity that which was the second episode, 0:20:56.160 --> 0:20:58.679 but it's crazy. That's when I knew that we were 0:20:58.680 --> 0:21:01.200 doing something different than the British. I might have even 0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:03.320 said it's a rain or Jenna. I was like, whoa. 0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:07.600 Like the fact that we're being this sort of on 0:21:07.640 --> 0:21:10.800 the edge and it's so funny and making such a 0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:14.600 great social commentary using Steve as the the sort of 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:18.400 boob character. It was so next level like that. That's 0:21:18.400 --> 0:21:20.720 when I realized, like, oh, if I wasn't on this show, 0:21:20.880 --> 0:21:24.440 I would be obsessed with this show. I remember when 0:21:25.160 --> 0:21:27.479 Larry Wilmore said my name is Mr Brown, he goes, 0:21:27.520 --> 0:21:30.320 I'm not calling you that. I lost my mind. That 0:21:30.400 --> 0:21:33.040 joke was so good. That was b J wrote that right, yea, 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:37.440 so good. But you um the Gem and Dwight stuff 0:21:37.680 --> 0:21:41.720 and specifically what everybody talks about are the pranks and 0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:44.600 the two of you guys working together. Why do you 0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:48.600 think you two worked so well together. I don't know 0:21:48.640 --> 0:21:51.879 either the characters or the you know, the actors, you 0:21:51.920 --> 0:21:54.760 and Rain well. I mean, I think obviously there's some 0:21:55.000 --> 0:22:00.320 version of the old adage of polar opposites are always great. 0:22:00.440 --> 0:22:03.600 You know. Whatever happens when you put two polar opposite 0:22:03.680 --> 0:22:08.000 characters together is sort of magical because it's the odd couple, 0:22:08.200 --> 0:22:10.239 you know what I mean. And I think that the 0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:13.920 beauty of our show that I really remember being so 0:22:14.040 --> 0:22:19.720 special is when pretty early on, they would allow Rain's 0:22:19.800 --> 0:22:22.600 character to have heart and he felt bad for him 0:22:22.640 --> 0:22:26.400 at times, and then he totally not make you feel 0:22:26.400 --> 0:22:29.840 bad for him because he'd be doing crazy stuff. But 0:22:29.880 --> 0:22:32.879 I remember that that really helped me with the pranks 0:22:32.920 --> 0:22:35.959 because it wasn't just being mean to him because pranks 0:22:35.960 --> 0:22:37.399 are easy, you know what I mean. I think pranks 0:22:37.440 --> 0:22:39.920 are kind of the easiest form of jokes. I don't 0:22:39.920 --> 0:22:41.639 mean on our show, I'm saying, like doing a prank 0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:45.320 to someone because it's fishing a barrel kind of you know. 0:22:45.680 --> 0:22:48.440 But I think that what the writers did so well 0:22:48.600 --> 0:22:52.480 was make those pranks kind of loving and like brotherly, 0:22:52.600 --> 0:22:54.520 Like there was a brother aspect to it that I 0:22:54.560 --> 0:22:57.320 think made them so great because I wasn't being mean. 0:22:58.359 --> 0:23:00.840 I was doing something that I he kind of got 0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:02.800 to kick out of two. I don't know that that's 0:23:02.840 --> 0:23:04.840 my theory on it, but I think that he was 0:23:04.920 --> 0:23:07.160 everything I didn't want to be, or so I thought. 0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:11.679 We were in the scenes together coming from two totally 0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:14.479 different places, and that's what was so cool, like the 0:23:14.520 --> 0:23:17.120 weird explosive thing, and it was one of those things 0:23:17.119 --> 0:23:20.960 where you know, I think that when you put yourself 0:23:21.000 --> 0:23:23.280 as an audience member and you're like, I think this 0:23:23.320 --> 0:23:25.680 is funny. I knew this is what I would want 0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:28.000 to see, is me trying to tell him something and 0:23:28.080 --> 0:23:30.800 him being annoying. Or the best is when we teamed up, 0:23:31.480 --> 0:23:33.280 when we did when we did stuff together and we 0:23:33.320 --> 0:23:36.160 were a team, that was great. That stuff was amazing, 0:23:36.200 --> 0:23:38.440 like those those talking heads where we do together. Don't 0:23:38.440 --> 0:23:41.360 think I was professional once in those because when I 0:23:41.440 --> 0:23:44.280 sat in a chair next to him, that weird energy 0:23:45.000 --> 0:23:47.800 radiated off of him and I just started laughing. I'm 0:23:47.920 --> 0:23:50.520 a crier laugher, and I had like that high pitched 0:23:50.960 --> 0:23:54.960 girl laughter. That's what made rain so good. Is he 0:23:54.960 --> 0:23:58.000 he was able to remember. We always used to laugh 0:23:58.040 --> 0:24:00.800 because he had this look on his face that he'd 0:24:00.840 --> 0:24:03.920 give to me that would make me break every time. 0:24:04.320 --> 0:24:07.400 And by the way, it's like his face didn't even move, 0:24:07.800 --> 0:24:09.920 but like some energy came out and I would laugh 0:24:09.920 --> 0:24:13.000 every time. He would do this like really funny, kind 0:24:13.000 --> 0:24:14.880 of like dumb face at me, and I would laugh 0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:17.960 every time, and it's funny. It's almost like he, of 0:24:18.000 --> 0:24:21.040 all people, made the lines feel like improv. Him and 0:24:21.040 --> 0:24:23.119 Steve I think made the lines feel the most like 0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:25.879 they were improving. You know, you're a part of my 0:24:25.920 --> 0:24:30.400 favorite moment of shooting ever. People always asked me, what's 0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:33.440 the hardest you ever laughed on set? Without a doubt, 0:24:33.560 --> 0:24:35.720 it's when you sat on his lap. When you sat 0:24:35.800 --> 0:24:38.400 on his lap and his improv with you. I think 0:24:38.440 --> 0:24:40.840 you can see it on the out takes, right. Oh yeah, 0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:44.439 it's the funniest. And by the way, to your point again, 0:24:45.200 --> 0:24:46.880 you're right they always went to you for a button 0:24:46.920 --> 0:24:48.760 because any time they went to me for a button 0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:51.640 and Steve was doing improv, I was not there physically not. 0:24:51.960 --> 0:24:54.359 I remember Matt Soon going just just let me know, 0:24:54.440 --> 0:24:56.359 are you gonna be there? And I was like no, 0:24:56.760 --> 0:24:58.359 because I would laugh so hard that I had to 0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:03.840 walk off set into the diving they office and I 0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:07.920 was just the most unprofessional and they would you were 0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:10.640 doing such good work, and he said something about like 0:25:11.280 --> 0:25:13.960 attaching balloons to you or something, and they whipped to 0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:16.800 me and I was like, dude, don't do it. I'm 0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:18.520 only going to fail you. And that was one of 0:25:18.560 --> 0:25:21.320 the only times that I just literally gave up on 0:25:21.400 --> 0:25:23.320 doing my job. And then he pretended that his legs 0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:26.960 were asleep. Yeah, but his voice changed when you sat 0:25:27.040 --> 0:25:29.119 on his lap. Well, that's that's the thing that I 0:25:29.160 --> 0:25:31.879 always that I always say to people was and it 0:25:31.920 --> 0:25:34.240 was right in my ear. It was right in my ear. 0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:39.000 And he I would go, kill what would you like 0:25:39.080 --> 0:25:45.200 a little and it was like this inhalation of air. Jeez, 0:25:45.200 --> 0:25:46.399 I didn't know you were going to ask me that. 0:25:46.440 --> 0:25:49.840 And he goes, well, thank quicker like that. And remember 0:25:49.840 --> 0:25:53.199 when he started banging his head on the glass. Oh, 0:25:53.240 --> 0:25:55.800 that whole improv And I remember, God bless Steve. He 0:25:55.840 --> 0:25:58.439 used to get so frustrated, not really, but like I know, 0:25:58.560 --> 0:25:59.800 I was a pain in the aster room because I 0:25:59.800 --> 0:26:02.040 would laughed so hard, and some of them He'd be 0:26:02.040 --> 0:26:05.080 doing the most genius stuff and I'd be in a 0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:07.879 two shot with him ruining the take and he was like, 0:26:07.880 --> 0:26:09.600 come on, man, maybe don't laugh on this one. So 0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:11.119 nice about it. But also it was like I'd like 0:26:11.160 --> 0:26:34.960 to go home. And yeah, The Office was constructed in 0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:40.359 the opposite way than most comedies, or certainly television comedies, 0:26:40.440 --> 0:26:46.080 where typically the leads are the young lovers and then 0:26:46.359 --> 0:26:51.640 you've got a crazy uncle or the crazy boss that 0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:57.320 that is back in the corner. No, um, this show 0:26:57.440 --> 0:27:01.960 was the reverse, which which is which? Which was putting 0:27:02.400 --> 0:27:07.119 and specifically the moments and examining like why Jim and Pam, 0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:10.760 like why that relationship became so important to people and 0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:14.840 so charged? Was people weren't watching a half hour of it. 0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:18.840 They were just stealing a moment from the corner, which 0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:22.840 makes you like I want to lean forward. And the 0:27:22.880 --> 0:27:28.280 other thing was there's an idea that when you generalize, 0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:31.960 it becomes more universal, right, like this is generally who 0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:36.680 this guy is from this midwestern town. But the amount 0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:41.760 of specificity and reality both in those moments between Jim 0:27:41.760 --> 0:27:45.520 and Dwight and Jim and Pam. The opposite is true 0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:50.800 that the more specific you get that the characters become 0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:55.679 infinitely more real and therefore universal and relatable. To me, 0:27:55.800 --> 0:27:58.840 that idea is is interesting. No, I think it's I 0:27:58.840 --> 0:28:00.879 think it's really true, and I think that's sort of 0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:04.920 the magic trick of the show is. And I don't 0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:08.000 I don't know the specifics of why it's so huge now. 0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:11.320 I mean, it's mind blowing to me. A four year 0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:13.240 old came up to me at the airport and was like, 0:28:13.440 --> 0:28:15.919 it's my favorite show and I was like, do you 0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:18.240 get any of it? And they're like, yeah, like it 0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:21.600 totally universal, like you said. But I also think that 0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:25.040 the stakes were set up so wonderfully because that's real life, right. 0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:28.800 I think when you're in love with someone, especially someone 0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:32.119 at work, you very much look forward to those interactions 0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:33.800 at work. But that means that when you go home, 0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:36.320 in your home life with your friends or whatever else 0:28:36.359 --> 0:28:39.160 you're doing, you will not see that person. So you 0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:41.960 are sort of, I don't know, tantalized by the idea 0:28:42.040 --> 0:28:44.800 that like, when I get that moment, I'll savor it. 0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:46.760 And I think that's real life, and that's what we 0:28:46.800 --> 0:28:49.680 did in the show. I particularly, I'm thinking right now 0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:52.120 about the relationship with Roy you know what I mean. 0:28:52.160 --> 0:28:55.200 It's like it's like lighting a fuse that might blow 0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:59.280 six weeks from now, but it was a very specific fuse. Right, 0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:03.200 So the first time you saw me and David together, 0:29:04.000 --> 0:29:06.560 people were like, oh, okay, so you just told me 0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:10.560 that this is a potentially explosive thing, and then we 0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:12.920 didn't go into it. You'd reference him a couple of times, 0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:16.320 and it was very specific references. And she said that 0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:17.880 he brought me to the game and left me at 0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:21.240 the arena, like things like that, where you're just slowly 0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:25.360 leading the breadcrumbs back to the trigger, and then by 0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:30.160 the time he comes in and pushes me, you're so 0:29:30.280 --> 0:29:33.240 invested in that. Not in a television way. I think 0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:37.040 in like a like these people are my friends, oh right, 0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:40.560 my friend, as much as I love them together, is 0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:43.760 trying to go after a girl who's taken. That's real 0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:47.360 life steaks rather than TV steaks. And I think that's 0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:51.320 what made it like the first time that we accidentally 0:29:51.400 --> 0:29:54.520 kissed at Dundees and like that's real life, whereas a 0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:57.960 regular television show would have a big, huge kiss scene 0:29:58.080 --> 0:30:00.840 like they finally got together, and it was I remember 0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:02.720 reading that script and being like man, that is so 0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:05.760 smart that have the audience be like did they just 0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:08.880 kiss and it's and not give them what they thought 0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:10.840 they want. It was so because that's how I felt. 0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:12.440 I felt like, oh my god, I thought we were 0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:15.960 gonna do some huge kissing and instead she just did 0:30:16.000 --> 0:30:17.920 it at Dundeees and you're like, oh my god. And 0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:21.720 of course I would have stewed on that for months 0:30:22.200 --> 0:30:25.760 and been like, was that that count? Was she just drunk? 0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:29.360 Rather than if it was a big kiss scene where 0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:31.720 I took her out back and like, you know, made 0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:34.440 some huge overture, you'd be like, oh good, I'm being 0:30:34.560 --> 0:30:37.360 entertained by this moment. But I don't feel anything. I'm 0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:40.360 not connected. I don't know if any of that made sense. No, 0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:45.120 that's so smart. I think I um. I think people 0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:47.840 see themselves in the show, and it's a combination I 0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:50.960 would imagine of every character. You know. I don't think 0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:52.640 you look at one character and you go like, oh, 0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:57.800 I'm Michael. I hope you're not Michael. But it's more like, oh, man, 0:30:58.200 --> 0:31:00.800 I have a co worker that loves cats, and I 0:31:00.840 --> 0:31:04.040 have a coworker that drives me insane. I don't know. 0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:10.120 Maybe that's it, and certainly people have bosses that are crazy, right, Yeah, 0:31:10.160 --> 0:31:12.800 it's what you were talking about, I think is so true. 0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:19.080 I had a conversation with Greg where traditional sitcoms there's 0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:22.640 a rhythm, there's a rhythm to the joke, it's it's 0:31:23.040 --> 0:31:26.520 it's totally on the beat. And I think that in 0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:31.360 the relationship between Jim and Pam, everything happened off of 0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:36.080 the beat, not at the time you expected, right from 0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:40.280 way early, like right like in terms of like the progression. 0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:43.160 But then also what Greg talked about a little bit 0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:46.960 was once it got to a certain point that he 0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:49.800 was like, well, we need to get them together, Like 0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:54.440 I'm not going to create artificial impediments that make everybody 0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:57.440 go like come on, because I think he had brought 0:31:57.600 --> 0:32:02.680 this audience in to a very seemingly realistic relationship. So 0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:06.000 if you started doing weird things that felt fake, then 0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:09.640 people wouldn't relate to it anymore. I'm saying, like, I 0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:12.880 love I can admit on this podcast. I was never 0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:17.120 like a casting No, I wasn't really great with dating, 0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:21.040 and I feel and I think that's what's so great 0:32:21.080 --> 0:32:23.480 about the show is how do you go about that? Like, 0:32:23.520 --> 0:32:27.400 how do you start a relationship with someone who's already 0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:31.240 with someone. It's a great place to start and then 0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:34.320 just you know, slowly, you know. I remember also how 0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:38.360 bold it was that when you thought you would do something, 0:32:38.560 --> 0:32:41.400 you know, like proposed to her, he would write an 0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:43.520 entire episode where you're like, oh man, and at the end, 0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:45.400 this is gonna be the proposal because again in TV, 0:32:45.680 --> 0:32:49.280 you know that, like the big scenes are coming, and 0:32:49.280 --> 0:32:51.600 he wouldn't do it. And then when I did propose, 0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:53.400 I love that talking head where I was like, I've 0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:57.920 been planning on this forever, like I love that, you know. Um. 0:32:57.960 --> 0:33:05.080 I've said to people that nothing shut down production like 0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:09.240 an important gem and pan moment, like when there were 0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:13.760 moments between the two down. No, I mean like shut 0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:18.280 it down right right, like like like you're blushing right now. 0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:21.680 But it's I mean like Casino Night and not and 0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:25.560 not just one, two different moments in Casino Night, because 0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:28.400 the relationship was so important to the two of you 0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:31.440 and getting it right totally. I remember those two moments 0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:33.520 very well. I remember the parking lot. Yeah, it's funny 0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:35.400 now that you say that, Yeah, which must have been 0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:39.720 frustrating for you. Oh you'd be like, oh please, just 0:33:40.200 --> 0:33:43.080 get me out of here before they filmed this, or 0:33:43.160 --> 0:33:47.800 it's going to be seven hours. Yeah, well we were 0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:50.720 in there that seven hours. But again I had never 0:33:50.800 --> 0:33:54.120 experienced anything else, so that was weird for me. Was 0:33:54.160 --> 0:33:57.680 I remember like there was an energy around those moments. 0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:01.760 I remember. I remember so many different things, but I 0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:04.600 remember that parking lot scene. I remember not knowing where 0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:07.640 Matt was and Ken wouldn't tell me and he was like, 0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:09.359 don't worry about it, just do the scene or whatever, 0:34:09.400 --> 0:34:10.920 you know, and I thought that was cool. And then 0:34:11.800 --> 0:34:14.399 certainly I remember the like the big moment, the big 0:34:14.520 --> 0:34:17.800 kiss that was shut down, like that was nobody was 0:34:17.840 --> 0:34:20.799 on set, nobody was around the craft service table. But 0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:23.319 I didn't know that was happening. So I walked on, 0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:25.440 you know, ready to joke with folks, and they were 0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:28.000 like not wanting to make eye contact with me, and 0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:29.680 I was like, what happened? I feel like I said 0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:31.880 something to you, like I was going on. I know. 0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:34.080 I kind of remember that too, And then it made 0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:36.080 me more nervous because then they were like, all right, now, 0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:38.319 maybe you should go out the door and whenever you're 0:34:38.320 --> 0:34:40.279 ready come in, And I was like, what's happening? There 0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:42.479 is no I'm gonna call action and they're like, no, man, 0:34:43.680 --> 0:34:47.080 well do you remember that night. I remember that night. 0:34:47.400 --> 0:34:50.680 I remember because you were so frustrated you were still there. No, 0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:54.359 I just I remember it being so big. I think 0:34:54.400 --> 0:34:59.160 the thing that I am most proud of artistically he 0:34:59.280 --> 0:35:01.279 is not blowing your top in that moment in the 0:35:01.320 --> 0:35:09.080 shot in the show was every single shot where the 0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:13.720 camera was positioned. Just the discussion about are the cameras 0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:15.960 in the room? Are the characters aware the cameras in 0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:18.600 the room? How does that change behavior based on the 0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:20.880 fact that the cameras are in the room or if 0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:23.000 they think that they're alone. And I think that at 0:35:23.239 --> 0:35:26.359 that moment, specifically at the end of Casino Night, you 0:35:26.440 --> 0:35:29.600 see the slats in the blinds and them shooting and 0:35:29.640 --> 0:35:33.560 catching you guys, that there are such an intimacy. You know. 0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:36.640 It's like Randall and Matt were to my favorite people 0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:40.360 on Earth and I couldn't see them, and like, I 0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:42.560 don't even think I got to see the set before 0:35:42.560 --> 0:35:44.319 I went up, you know what I mean. Like it 0:35:44.440 --> 0:35:47.640 was also weird, and I'm sure for a better actor 0:35:47.760 --> 0:35:49.480 you'd think like, oh, that's what you need, right, And 0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:51.640 so I was like, I am a terrible actor because 0:35:51.640 --> 0:35:54.200 I don't know. I'm nervous, and maybe that was the intention, 0:35:54.239 --> 0:35:56.600 but I was like, I don't even know. Remember, Randall 0:35:56.880 --> 0:35:59.799 wasn't anywhere, and usually I was like what are we doing? 0:35:59.880 --> 0:36:02.120 Like what? Which? What? What? How? Where do you want 0:36:02.120 --> 0:36:05.200 me to be whenever? And it was really weird. I 0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:07.480 was so freaked out. And I remember I was on 0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:10.319 set for a while before Jenna got onto because Jenna 0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:12.640 was taking her moment, which is fine, but again I 0:36:12.680 --> 0:36:17.240 was so not knowing of that world that I didn't 0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:20.280 know that I could take thirty minutes in my trailer 0:36:20.280 --> 0:36:22.600 to prepare. Mentally, I was like, mentally, what's happened? And 0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:24.799 then I got so much more scared, and I was like, 0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:26.319 you know, then you start to think like, oh god, 0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:28.799 I didn't do my homework and she's doing your homework. Right. 0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:33.440 Were you on board with the trajectory of Jim and 0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:37.200 Pam's relationship, like just in terms of the timing, did 0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:41.239 you have concerns about it happening to soon? No, it 0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:45.160 sounds like a hallmark version of Greg, But I truly 0:36:45.160 --> 0:36:47.719 and Greg I trusted. I could tell that he had 0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:49.200 a beat on it. He was always so nice to 0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:52.160 involve Jenna, and I remember that he would tell you 0:36:52.280 --> 0:36:54.880 kind of when things were going to happen, and he 0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:57.960 would remind you in scenes, you know, don't worry. This 0:36:58.000 --> 0:37:00.000 isn't the moment that's going to lead to this, that'll 0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:03.160 happened later, like he he had it all tracked out. Also, 0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:05.759 we were what in season five or six by the 0:37:05.800 --> 0:37:08.359 time that I was in that motel with that other 0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:10.439 girl and stuff like that, And that's the only time 0:37:10.480 --> 0:37:13.120 I remember putting whatever, put my foot down, not really, 0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:14.759 but I remember I got that was the only time 0:37:14.800 --> 0:37:18.080 I was very much against because he was saying, you're 0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:20.640 going to actually make out with her in this scene. 0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:23.799 And that was the episode I directed. Yes, that's right, 0:37:24.520 --> 0:37:27.359 but the bed bugs and I don't remember. It may 0:37:27.400 --> 0:37:30.479 have been an earlier version about you guys making out, 0:37:30.560 --> 0:37:33.439 but I remember that was the only time we had 0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:35.680 like a it was like a bad, negative moment. But 0:37:35.680 --> 0:37:37.480 I remember being in a room and it was like 0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:42.279 I remember finding myself kind of saying things that I 0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:44.560 never thought i'd say before, like I'm not going to 0:37:44.719 --> 0:37:48.319 shoot it. Remember Paul Lieberstein was in the room. He 0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:50.160 was like, no, you you will do it in an 0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:52.680 aggressive way. But it was like he saw the benefit 0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:57.320 of doing it. And I remember saying to Greg, there's 0:37:57.360 --> 0:38:00.719 a threshold with which you can push our audience. They 0:38:00.760 --> 0:38:04.480 are so dedicated, We have shown such great respect to them. 0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:06.879 There's a level of messing with them that you've done, 0:38:06.960 --> 0:38:08.680 like in a great way. I mean like you've messed 0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:11.160 with them by the whole kiss happening too early. And 0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:13.719 I think there's a moment where if you push them 0:38:13.760 --> 0:38:15.759 too far, they'll never come back. And I think that 0:38:15.800 --> 0:38:21.719 if you show Jim to be cheating, they'll never come back. Yeah, 0:38:21.800 --> 0:38:24.560 And I what did you think? That's right? You directed 0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:27.200 what what was your feeling? Well, my recollection, well, it 0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:29.480 was never that you were going to make out, but 0:38:29.520 --> 0:38:35.120 it was about there was what was the line? How 0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:37.120 far can we go? I was supposed to kiss her 0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:39.240 in that bathroom. I remember that's what they were pitching, 0:38:39.280 --> 0:38:41.400 and I was like, I don't know that that's going 0:38:41.440 --> 0:38:45.120 to go well for us. Yeah, but even just you 0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:49.719 being in a room with her, you know, how would 0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:52.960 you behave even if you didn't think the cameras were there, 0:38:53.040 --> 0:38:55.560 Because the cameras were shooting from outside and they weren't 0:38:55.600 --> 0:38:59.800 in the room except when Dwight came in. Um. Anyway, 0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:05.640 the whole point is the passion for which you fought, 0:39:06.040 --> 0:39:11.680 and Jenna fought and Greg like that everybody was collaboratively. 0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:13.959 That it wasn't a negative fight. It was a big 0:39:13.960 --> 0:39:17.160 conversation because again it was so important to everybody. Yeah, 0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:19.480 but also I had trusted Greg up to that point, 0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:21.400 and it was really hard for me to say, I 0:39:21.440 --> 0:39:25.959 think we're actually making the wrong decision. Right. Um, you 0:39:26.440 --> 0:39:34.239 obviously wildly successful when people approach you. Now, what percentage 0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:38.440 of it is about the office? Oh? Large majority. Again, 0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:42.360 I think it's the difference between fans who feel like 0:39:42.360 --> 0:39:46.480 they're a part of something and fans who have watched something. 0:39:46.880 --> 0:39:49.520 I think there's very few things that I watched when 0:39:49.520 --> 0:39:52.920 I was a kid that I felt so connected to. 0:39:53.040 --> 0:39:55.200 It was more like, oh, I like the movie ET, 0:39:56.400 --> 0:39:58.480 But there were very few things that I felt like, 0:39:58.480 --> 0:40:00.799 if I ever saw that person, we shared a life 0:40:00.840 --> 0:40:04.040 moment together. Had I ever met Chris Farley, I would 0:40:04.080 --> 0:40:07.160 have said that because I watched Tommy Boy so many 0:40:07.200 --> 0:40:09.720 times that he didn't know he was my best friend, 0:40:09.760 --> 0:40:12.200 but he was my best friend. So I think that 0:40:12.280 --> 0:40:14.480 thing is like I shared so much in my life 0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:19.640 with that show. That's why I think that people, you know, 0:40:19.840 --> 0:40:22.480 people have seen other things, which is great. Certainly recently, 0:40:22.480 --> 0:40:24.160 like I think quiet place in Jack Ryan people are 0:40:24.160 --> 0:40:26.839 coming up a lot more. But I I think our 0:40:27.040 --> 0:40:30.680 fans see me and instead of going up to an 0:40:30.680 --> 0:40:33.160 actor to get a picture or something, they're actually seeing 0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:36.240 a friend of theirs. Is my point, My long meandering 0:40:36.280 --> 0:40:38.440 point is no one looks at Jack Ryan. And I 0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:40.480 was like, oh my god, my buddy, Jack Ryant, Oh 0:40:40.480 --> 0:40:42.759 my god, you're an actor. I didn't realize they do 0:40:42.880 --> 0:40:46.600 think that with Jim and I've had My favorite experiences 0:40:46.640 --> 0:40:48.960 with fans is when they think we've gone to school 0:40:49.000 --> 0:40:51.879 together or something. That's my favorite. Like I I had 0:40:51.920 --> 0:40:54.319 one where a woman said we know each other and 0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:55.920 I said Doe, and she goes, we went to school 0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:58.120 together and I was like, I don't. I don't think 0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:00.680 we did, and she went, yes we did. And it 0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:02.239 was like that thing of like why am I being 0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:04.120 awkward about it? And where did you go to school? 0:41:04.200 --> 0:41:05.920 And she said some school and I went, I did 0:41:06.000 --> 0:41:07.759 not go to that school and she went, yes you did, 0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:11.560 and like I was like okay, and then I left 0:41:11.600 --> 0:41:14.759 and I could see that either else someone else has 0:41:14.800 --> 0:41:16.960 been like, you don't know that person. You just thought 0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:20.239 that it was at the airport bookshop and then through 0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:23.239 the window you saw them being like silence, being like, 0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:26.839 oh no, God, it was great. But I think that 0:41:26.840 --> 0:41:28.759 that's such a credit to the show that you don't 0:41:28.800 --> 0:41:34.040 just like the show, you actually think you know those people. Um, 0:41:34.160 --> 0:41:37.120 what are you most thankful for? Oh? My god, everything? 0:41:37.920 --> 0:41:41.040 I mean, are you asking me as a person? Well, 0:41:41.080 --> 0:41:47.640 I mean, without sounding hyperball, it's it is my everything. 0:41:47.800 --> 0:41:52.400 I mean, that show changed my entire life. Was twenty 0:41:52.440 --> 0:41:54.680 three when it started, so I hadn't even really formed 0:41:54.680 --> 0:41:58.280 an identity of who I was. And so that show, 0:41:59.120 --> 0:42:02.600 not only from a rear perspective, where I've had more 0:42:02.640 --> 0:42:05.600 opportunity than I ever would have dreamt of having for 0:42:05.640 --> 0:42:08.160 one day, I have for an entire lifetime, is all 0:42:08.239 --> 0:42:10.640 due to that show. I never would be doing any 0:42:10.719 --> 0:42:14.040 other thing that you've seen me do, writing, directing, acting, 0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:16.520 and something else if it wasn't for that show. But 0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:20.160 as a person, I think it sort of gave me 0:42:20.239 --> 0:42:24.440 this very quintessential building block that I got to stand 0:42:24.480 --> 0:42:28.399 on to build the rest of my life. Yeah, you're 0:42:28.480 --> 0:42:31.719 you're about to say, that's all crack of ship? What what? What? 0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:35.440 What would you say? I think it's very similar. I 0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:38.280 think I was processing what you were saying that because 0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:40.440 of the people who were working on it, not just 0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:44.759 the actors, but the writers who are like all showrunners 0:42:44.800 --> 0:42:49.360 now from the early season, you know, extremely successful, fun 0:42:49.560 --> 0:42:52.560 good shows. It's but also our crew. Like you said, 0:42:52.600 --> 0:42:56.240 like you know again in a very probably lame, cliche 0:42:56.320 --> 0:43:00.440 hallmark way, like I don't know that as a person 0:43:00.680 --> 0:43:04.719 I would be able to have the luxury forget you know, 0:43:04.920 --> 0:43:07.760 success or finance or anything. It's the luxury of being 0:43:07.800 --> 0:43:10.160 who I wanted to be. I didn't know who I 0:43:10.200 --> 0:43:13.440 wanted to be. And because of such a warm environment 0:43:13.480 --> 0:43:18.799 where if everyone had a color, people were splashing their 0:43:18.840 --> 0:43:22.279 experience and their colors all over me, I got exposed 0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:25.160 to everything I wanted to be and then got to 0:43:25.239 --> 0:43:27.680 choose to move forward with my life in a way 0:43:27.680 --> 0:43:31.440 that I not only didn't know existed, but that I 0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:36.480 could sustain. Like that you could, you could do fantastic 0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:39.800 fun stuff every day for ten years of your life. 0:43:40.080 --> 0:43:42.239 And genuinely, I've been asked, I'm sure you get asked 0:43:42.239 --> 0:43:44.879 all the time, what year. Were you guys all over it? 0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:47.799 Like when were you guys like we're over it? And 0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:51.840 I genuinely am trying not to look back with revisionist history. 0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:56.439 I don't remember one moment where I was like, such 0:43:56.480 --> 0:44:04.120 a job, Yeah, writing, acting, directing. Is there one you prefer? 0:44:05.480 --> 0:44:08.279 That's a good question. I don't know. I think yeah. 0:44:08.360 --> 0:44:10.840 I think acting was always I think because it was 0:44:10.880 --> 0:44:14.480 the first, there's something I really love about it. I 0:44:14.520 --> 0:44:19.280 think that there's elements to acting being more fun because 0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:21.960 you don't have the weight of responsibility of any kind 0:44:22.040 --> 0:44:24.239 like turning into script. You have the responsibility. I hope 0:44:24.239 --> 0:44:27.560 this doesn't suck, and directing you of all the responsibilities, 0:44:27.560 --> 0:44:30.799 which can be terrifying. But by the way, you don't 0:44:30.800 --> 0:44:33.160 want to suck being an actor either. But I don't know. 0:44:33.239 --> 0:44:37.600 I guess that it's once you've gone to you know, 0:44:37.640 --> 0:44:41.040 the whole behind the camera idea and you see how 0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:44.880 the sausage is made, you realize how I think writing 0:44:44.880 --> 0:44:47.680 and directing made me a better actor, and vice versa. 0:44:48.680 --> 0:44:51.359 You know everybody. I remember always getting awards, people would 0:44:51.400 --> 0:44:53.040 always be like in thanks to the crew and whatever, 0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:55.839 and we had the greatest crew of all time and 0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:59.799 I think that that taught me to look back on 0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:04.000 all the things I loved movies and television, whatever, and 0:45:04.040 --> 0:45:07.800 realized that for every moment you remember watching and loving, 0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:10.840 there were three to six people who made that moment 0:45:10.960 --> 0:45:13.920 exactly happen at that exact time, and it was magic, 0:45:14.040 --> 0:45:19.000 from props to camera to set design anyway, that kind 0:45:19.040 --> 0:45:21.480 of thing. I don't know if that answered anything. No. 0:45:21.600 --> 0:45:24.360 I think so like people always ask how did I 0:45:24.360 --> 0:45:26.840 get into directing or writing, and it's like, because I 0:45:26.880 --> 0:45:29.680 went to the best film school ever, which was the Office, 0:45:30.600 --> 0:45:33.720 and you learn what's good. I think my taste level 0:45:35.000 --> 0:45:43.160 became solidified on that show, like I see what's possible 0:45:43.280 --> 0:45:47.200 now and everything I do. Um. I've said this before 0:45:47.280 --> 0:45:50.760 that I never would have directed and rewritten A Quiet 0:45:50.760 --> 0:45:55.080 Place if it wasn't for Greg, because I remember him 0:45:55.160 --> 0:45:58.239 saying to me one day, don't look at this as 0:45:58.239 --> 0:46:01.919 a comedy. Just be in the moment, right you You 0:46:01.920 --> 0:46:06.000 your character doesn't know he's funny. We get to we 0:46:06.080 --> 0:46:09.600 get to decide, right, So we're not making a comedy. 0:46:09.640 --> 0:46:12.239 We're just telling the best story we can. And if 0:46:12.320 --> 0:46:15.799 you end up laughing, great, If you cry at a 0:46:15.840 --> 0:46:22.000 moment with Pam great, but just tell the best story. 0:46:22.120 --> 0:46:25.120 So when I got offered Quiet Place, I was like, 0:46:25.239 --> 0:46:28.240 I don't know anything about horror. And I remember actually 0:46:28.280 --> 0:46:32.359 sitting down before I wrote the script and said, I'm 0:46:32.360 --> 0:46:33.919 not going to make a horror movie. I'm not gonna 0:46:33.920 --> 0:46:36.680 make a genre movie. I'm gonna tell the best story 0:46:36.760 --> 0:46:39.440 I can about this family. And if you end up 0:46:39.480 --> 0:46:43.399 getting scared at moments, that is on you, because it's 0:46:43.440 --> 0:46:45.719 only my job is only to tell you the most 0:46:45.760 --> 0:46:49.319 concise and strong story I can, and then every emotional 0:46:49.400 --> 0:46:51.839 thing that you feel is coming from you and how 0:46:51.880 --> 0:46:54.560 you're experiencing it. And I remember I never would have 0:46:54.560 --> 0:46:57.520 had the guts to do that, because I would have 0:46:57.560 --> 0:46:59.080 said the same thing I said to Greg that day, 0:46:59.120 --> 0:47:00.880 which is like, I don't to mess this up. I 0:47:00.920 --> 0:47:02.800 want to make sure I'm really funny in this scene 0:47:02.840 --> 0:47:04.239 for you, and he was like, no, no, I don't 0:47:04.239 --> 0:47:06.279 want you to be funny. I want you to tell 0:47:06.280 --> 0:47:08.719 the best story and let other people decide whether the 0:47:08.760 --> 0:47:11.120 scene is funny. And I was like, mind blowing stuff. 0:47:11.280 --> 0:47:15.200 That is very, very smart. But The Quiet Place isn't 0:47:15.239 --> 0:47:18.080 a comedy. No, you should see it before we do 0:47:18.120 --> 0:47:25.399 an interview shoot. Thanks Bud, You're welcome. Is it over? Yeah? 0:47:25.400 --> 0:47:27.080 I mean, do you have anything else you want to say? 0:47:27.120 --> 0:47:29.280 I mean we feel like we covered a lot of topics, 0:47:29.320 --> 0:47:30.920 We covered a lot of ground. I don't know what 0:47:30.960 --> 0:47:36.279 I said. Um, John, I love you so much and 0:47:36.400 --> 0:47:40.560 I appreciate you coming and talking to me. This is great. 0:47:40.600 --> 0:47:43.359 But also it's just so good to see you. It's 0:47:43.400 --> 0:47:44.759 so good to see you. I feel like I just 0:47:44.800 --> 0:47:47.839 went to a therapy session. You did, you did great. 0:47:47.920 --> 0:47:51.800 Which you don't cut yourself out of this, you you, 0:47:51.800 --> 0:47:54.920 You'll get my bill. Um. We still have headphones on, 0:47:57.320 --> 0:47:59.600 which allows me to do this. I don't want to 0:47:59.600 --> 0:48:02.520 slip round. I don't want your slippery. I don't want 0:48:02.560 --> 0:48:06.239 your slipping around in my brain or ear. Um are 0:48:06.239 --> 0:48:12.800 we done? Can I please get out of here? All right? Ali? Guys, dude, 0:48:13.280 --> 0:48:35.319 thank you, welcome, thank you, Welcome back everybody. I hope 0:48:35.360 --> 0:48:38.759 you enjoyed that. But now it's time to celebrate the 0:48:38.840 --> 0:48:44.600 real birthday boy, Mr Craig Robinson. That's right today, October 0:48:46.040 --> 0:48:51.719 Craig entered this world. Well not today, but some years ago, 0:48:52.320 --> 0:48:56.920 fifty years ago. In fact, Craig was born. Craig and 0:48:56.920 --> 0:49:01.279 I we've been friends for over seventeen years now, and 0:49:01.360 --> 0:49:05.240 we've had, we've had, we've had some pretty good times. 0:49:05.320 --> 0:49:09.120 You know, you have never truly lived until you have 0:49:09.200 --> 0:49:13.799 spent a very late night listening to Craig Robinson play 0:49:13.920 --> 0:49:19.880 any song you could possibly name on his keyboard. That's right, 0:49:20.280 --> 0:49:23.600 any song you can name, Craig can play. And if 0:49:23.640 --> 0:49:26.640 he doesn't know the song, this is not a joke. 0:49:26.880 --> 0:49:29.480 You just hum a little bit of the song for 0:49:29.560 --> 0:49:33.320 him and he starts playing it and it's usually better 0:49:34.000 --> 0:49:37.840 than the original. He is absolute fact. He is a 0:49:38.000 --> 0:49:44.000 musical genius. Okay, I've done enough talking especially nicely about Craig. 0:49:44.040 --> 0:49:47.480 The time has come here. He is my friend and yours, 0:49:48.239 --> 0:50:04.319 Mr Craig Robinson. So what's up? How you doing so? 0:50:05.080 --> 0:50:07.920 I mean, I'm good. It's been so long since I 0:50:07.960 --> 0:50:12.240 saw you? How long? I mean a couple of years. 0:50:12.520 --> 0:50:16.040 It's been a few what's new in your life? I mean, 0:50:16.120 --> 0:50:18.560 I'm doing this right now. I'm on the road a 0:50:18.560 --> 0:50:23.279 lot you Oh yeah, yeah, is this thing on? Yeah, 0:50:23.280 --> 0:50:26.799 it's probably on. We start already. We'll not really tell 0:50:26.840 --> 0:50:29.640 the truth, man, I mean, it's it's recording. But I'm 0:50:29.680 --> 0:50:35.479 just interested in saying what's up? Okay? Um, check check, 0:50:36.040 --> 0:50:39.880 check check. Are you checking your sound? Yeah? Are you 0:50:39.920 --> 0:50:42.799 a sound expert? Well, you're a musician, so yeah. I 0:50:42.840 --> 0:50:47.000 mean I don't know if it's going loud or so there. 0:50:48.440 --> 0:50:51.799 Did I ever tell you the story? This is before 0:50:52.840 --> 0:50:57.920 I think we had done the pilot only and I 0:50:57.920 --> 0:51:00.480 hadn't been in l a very long. I ever tell 0:51:00.480 --> 0:51:03.799 you going the mbar story for real? I went to 0:51:03.840 --> 0:51:05.359 the m Bar and they used to do like an 0:51:05.360 --> 0:51:08.400 open mic night, and somebody was like, oh, go to 0:51:08.400 --> 0:51:09.960 the m Bar. I think I knew somebody who was 0:51:10.000 --> 0:51:13.440 like a server there, and I remember it was David 0:51:13.480 --> 0:51:18.680 Cross was there, and Sarah Silverman some other people and 0:51:18.760 --> 0:51:23.480 you you were so far and away the funniest thing 0:51:24.040 --> 0:51:28.040 that night. Well you had a guy with Yeah, I 0:51:28.080 --> 0:51:31.600 think me and Jerry did. Yeah. Yeah. How many shows 0:51:31.640 --> 0:51:36.200 you do a year? I mean how many cities? Oh shows, 0:51:36.480 --> 0:51:40.800 shows are like, you know, five sometimes seven a weekend, 0:51:41.440 --> 0:51:46.719 So I probably do thirty plus weeks. Are you jesus 0:51:47.480 --> 0:51:50.120 if I'm not filming myself. So you're the hardest working 0:51:50.160 --> 0:51:57.560 man in show business, not by um. You incorporate music 0:51:57.600 --> 0:52:00.440 a lot into your stand up. Do you think that 0:52:00.719 --> 0:52:02.799 Darryl being a musician on the show. Did that come 0:52:02.840 --> 0:52:06.080 from you? Do you think the writers wrote that? Yeah? 0:52:06.320 --> 0:52:11.360 They they We were like a towel being rung up. 0:52:11.440 --> 0:52:14.480 They got whatever whatever they knew we could do, they 0:52:14.560 --> 0:52:18.120 got it out of us, right, absolutely. Yeah, you started 0:52:18.160 --> 0:52:22.239 pretty early. I mean I remember that Christmas episode. You 0:52:22.320 --> 0:52:25.040 and I think we were DJA in the corner and 0:52:25.040 --> 0:52:30.680 then gradually you start. Yeah, we had like what do 0:52:30.719 --> 0:52:33.000 you call those little balls that with the lights and 0:52:33.200 --> 0:52:37.239 uh disc disco ball? Obviously, I mean for people who 0:52:37.320 --> 0:52:43.640 don't know, music comes very easy to you. Yes, I 0:52:43.680 --> 0:52:47.440 have seen people hum you tunes and you start playing 0:52:47.960 --> 0:52:51.520 well trained here is it trained or is it natural? 0:52:52.320 --> 0:52:55.520 I mean both. You have to sit down and like 0:52:55.600 --> 0:52:58.520 there's time I was sitting, like play a song in 0:52:58.640 --> 0:53:02.680 this breakdown note for no each chord we want to 0:53:02.680 --> 0:53:04.719 play again. We want to play again until I get 0:53:05.320 --> 0:53:06.920 and go through the whole song. And it Once you 0:53:06.960 --> 0:53:10.560 do that, you know sometimes you start you know, see 0:53:10.600 --> 0:53:13.680 patterns and you know, see what's going on in the song. 0:53:14.280 --> 0:53:18.120 So that's how you learned. Do you read music? Yeah, 0:53:19.040 --> 0:53:21.440 but how you do not like I can hear me. 0:53:22.440 --> 0:53:24.360 It takes me a while to read some music, but 0:53:24.760 --> 0:53:28.920 I can hear pretty good. You hear better than anyone 0:53:28.960 --> 0:53:33.600 I've ever seen. Okay, no, I'm just saying I'm trying. 0:53:34.239 --> 0:53:38.480 I don't know, but you trained yourself to do that. 0:53:38.880 --> 0:53:40.719 I think people think about it as being sort of 0:53:40.719 --> 0:53:44.640 a natural gift, but no, it's definitely a gift. But 0:53:44.680 --> 0:53:46.680 it's it's you know, it's a gift. You have to 0:53:46.719 --> 0:53:50.160 work for it. It's like you gotta know you had 0:53:50.160 --> 0:53:54.799 the talent to do it and then just developed that, right. 0:53:55.440 --> 0:54:00.880 I remember later on they kept pairing me with you 0:54:01.120 --> 0:54:06.880 and Ed Helms in musical situations. Z Kevin and the Zitz. 0:54:07.480 --> 0:54:10.400 It was Kevin and the Zitz, and I remember we 0:54:10.480 --> 0:54:12.719 would you know, we never had time to read the 0:54:12.719 --> 0:54:15.319 episodes before we did them, and we would read the 0:54:15.360 --> 0:54:19.440 episodes and they would be like song, song, song, and 0:54:19.440 --> 0:54:20.759 I don't know if you knew this. I would go 0:54:20.800 --> 0:54:23.440 to them and I would be like, okay, when is rehearsals? 0:54:23.480 --> 0:54:25.200 When is rehearsal? And then I would come to you 0:54:25.200 --> 0:54:26.640 and I'd be like all right, you guys, can we 0:54:26.719 --> 0:54:28.719 And you'd be like yeah, yeah, no, we're good, We're good, 0:54:28.800 --> 0:54:31.280 and Ed be the same way, like as like, no, 0:54:31.320 --> 0:54:33.800 that's fine, No, I got it. And I was like no, no, no, guys, 0:54:33.960 --> 0:54:36.959 I don't have it. I don't know what the hell 0:54:37.040 --> 0:54:41.200 I'm doing. Um there's a quote that has been attributed 0:54:41.239 --> 0:54:44.480 to you which that you basically started doing music because 0:54:44.480 --> 0:54:47.920 it's there were so many funny people in Chicago that 0:54:47.960 --> 0:54:50.960 you wanted to do something that was different in a way. 0:54:51.000 --> 0:54:57.480 Is that true? Not exactly? Okay, Um, I just you know, 0:54:58.360 --> 0:55:03.839 it's my thing. And I had the song that I 0:55:03.880 --> 0:55:08.759 did in college that transferred over to the stage. I 0:55:08.800 --> 0:55:12.239 would like play, you know, piano, the same singing to 0:55:12.280 --> 0:55:14.479 a girl on the phone, you know, singing a nice 0:55:14.600 --> 0:55:16.480 and like talking to her, singing to a little bit. 0:55:16.520 --> 0:55:18.120 You know, it's romantic, and I hit up with it. 0:55:18.640 --> 0:55:23.239 Can I had some booty right, and then I was like, okay, him, 0:55:23.280 --> 0:55:26.400 listen to see if she's laughing, and watched, so she's laughing. Okay, 0:55:26.440 --> 0:55:30.080 we're good. But so then I did that like, I 0:55:30.120 --> 0:55:34.239 don't know, some open mic kind of thing. But it 0:55:34.320 --> 0:55:37.000 wasn't the open mic. It was like, you know, actors 0:55:37.719 --> 0:55:40.000 in the room on a Friday night, like you know, 0:55:40.080 --> 0:55:42.200 and then you just did what you do. So then 0:55:42.239 --> 0:55:45.560 once you started doing comedy, I went up and did 0:55:45.600 --> 0:55:49.320 this show and uh, it didn't go too well. I 0:55:49.400 --> 0:55:52.000 was just think, all heckless heaven. It's in Chicago, and 0:55:52.640 --> 0:55:56.000 you get eight minutes to perform the first three minutes, 0:55:56.520 --> 0:55:59.600 nobody gets to mess with you. From the third minute 0:55:59.600 --> 0:56:02.000 on if people wanted to hecker you. There are three 0:56:02.000 --> 0:56:04.080 people in the audience who have rubber chickens. If you've 0:56:04.080 --> 0:56:06.280 got all three rubber chickens, you had to get off stage. 0:56:07.000 --> 0:56:10.480 And then uh, three people have score cards. So I 0:56:10.520 --> 0:56:13.640 got two rubber chickens the first night and before I 0:56:13.640 --> 0:56:15.399 get to there like I'm not getting a third chicken. 0:56:15.520 --> 0:56:18.279 It's good night. Then the next week I came back 0:56:18.320 --> 0:56:21.120 with my keyboard. That was all she wrote. You did 0:56:21.239 --> 0:56:26.200 the song that ends with your buddy getting the phone. Um, 0:56:27.000 --> 0:56:32.120 somebody's sucking my lady. Somebody's sucking my lady. Yeah, somebody's Yeah, 0:56:32.160 --> 0:56:34.719 that's that's what you saw. That's what I saw at 0:56:34.840 --> 0:56:39.120 m bar. That's what got me. They got me in 0:56:39.160 --> 0:56:40.799 front of Apple Town to get me in front of 0:56:41.080 --> 0:56:44.400 Greg Daniels. Yeah. When I did my audition for the Office, 0:56:44.440 --> 0:56:46.880 Great Games, was like, doesn't get any funny into that. 0:56:47.080 --> 0:56:51.120 I was like, okay, now audition, like oh, what like 0:56:52.000 --> 0:56:55.200 seems like a big voted confidence. Right, I'm thinking like, oh, man, 0:56:56.640 --> 0:57:00.200 now wait because they had seen it, they all you 0:57:00.239 --> 0:57:01.960 at a club, well and not at the club, but 0:57:02.040 --> 0:57:06.360 you know, like you gotta see this guy or you know, 0:57:06.440 --> 0:57:11.040 you know right right right right? Um. I feel like Darryl, 0:57:11.440 --> 0:57:15.080 you know, even from the beginning, had kind of a 0:57:15.200 --> 0:57:19.360 gem thing with the camera, like it felt like you 0:57:19.400 --> 0:57:21.560 were on the same page, Like you would do the 0:57:21.640 --> 0:57:24.440 looks to the camera like did you just see that idiot. 0:57:24.520 --> 0:57:27.880 I don't get a lot of camera looks untill later, 0:57:28.200 --> 0:57:31.760 but people do say, yeah, see me as a voice 0:57:31.760 --> 0:57:37.720 of reason in all the insanity. Yeah, Ben Silverman says 0:57:37.960 --> 0:57:42.000 that you're the smartest person who worked at Dunner Mifflin. Well, no, 0:57:42.520 --> 0:57:46.200 not you, but Darryl right right, right right. I can 0:57:46.280 --> 0:57:49.360 see that. Yeah, Daryl was just trying to you know, 0:57:49.720 --> 0:57:53.960 be honest, make an honest buck, and I couldn't believe 0:57:54.080 --> 0:57:56.640 a lot of things that was going around him. And 0:57:56.720 --> 0:57:58.320 you know, he knew he had to keep the piece 0:57:58.360 --> 0:58:02.320 and knew he had to uh keep his job. Yeah, 0:58:02.440 --> 0:58:05.120 so I don't I don't think he ever thought I'm 0:58:05.120 --> 0:58:07.920 smart than these cats. He just you know, just like 0:58:07.920 --> 0:58:10.560 would you belat these cats? You know, but it felt like, 0:58:11.240 --> 0:58:14.960 you know, they showed a lot that the warehouse maybe 0:58:15.080 --> 0:58:19.720 was run more efficiently than the regular office. Like you 0:58:19.760 --> 0:58:26.720 were you were good. Yeah. Um. Darryl's relationship with Michael 0:58:27.040 --> 0:58:30.479 in the show, it was a very like he kept 0:58:30.520 --> 0:58:35.400 coming to you for advice, particularly on black culture. It 0:58:35.560 --> 0:58:39.480 was a very very funny dynamic. What was your experience 0:58:39.520 --> 0:58:44.280 working with Steve? He's the greatest. The way he could 0:58:45.520 --> 0:58:50.120 turn it comedy button off and on like a falsett. 0:58:50.760 --> 0:58:55.439 It was just genius to me. Whenever I had seen 0:58:55.520 --> 0:59:00.200 with him moment and I was like titilation was holy know, 0:59:00.720 --> 0:59:04.680 very exciting. And I learned from him, stole from him 0:59:04.800 --> 0:59:07.720 all of that. Yeah, it's funny that you said. You 0:59:07.760 --> 0:59:09.000 said that because I thought you were going to say 0:59:09.040 --> 0:59:11.200 something else, which I think is also true. Is part 0:59:11.200 --> 0:59:15.680 of his genius is how he turns so quick even 0:59:15.720 --> 0:59:18.160 within a scene, you know what I mean, Like he 0:59:18.560 --> 0:59:21.280 is he is fighting down one path and something may 0:59:21.320 --> 0:59:24.640 happen and he just turns it like that and he's like, 0:59:25.200 --> 0:59:31.480 you know, ultimate scene partner two. He listens and reacts two, 0:59:31.880 --> 0:59:33.720 you know what's going on. Like we had a scene 0:59:35.120 --> 0:59:40.160 I didn't even really notice until it aired, it was 0:59:40.200 --> 0:59:45.240 a negotiation. It might be my favorite episode just because 0:59:45.360 --> 0:59:48.960 the work I did with Steve and being able to 0:59:49.000 --> 0:59:51.160 play with him like that. It was the scene where 0:59:51.200 --> 0:59:55.280 he's like, I'm not going to speak first, decline to 0:59:55.280 --> 0:59:58.280 speak first. So we did a couple of takes and 0:59:58.280 --> 1:00:01.320 it was fine. Uh, and then he did his next 1:00:01.400 --> 1:00:05.880 take and he's making these faces and if you look closely, 1:00:06.840 --> 1:00:11.440 you can see Meet started to crack a smile on that. 1:00:11.600 --> 1:00:15.200 But it was just like, without even speaking, he could, 1:00:15.320 --> 1:00:18.480 you know, pull us out of you. The laughter is like, oh, 1:00:18.560 --> 1:00:21.840 he's about to get me. But also in that episode 1:00:23.160 --> 1:00:26.000 when I was saying, uh, where he listens and you know, 1:00:26.640 --> 1:00:30.560 like the perfect improvisation partner, you're listening and take it 1:00:30.600 --> 1:00:32.600 to the next level. So we're talking about, you know, 1:00:32.600 --> 1:00:35.080 getting raged from Jane. I said, make it happen, Captain, 1:00:36.240 --> 1:00:49.880 he said, I will, Sergeant. My god, amazing. H Have 1:00:49.960 --> 1:00:53.840 you ever seen Greg going to his own like what? 1:00:55.000 --> 1:00:58.160 So we were doing this show, that's what in the 1:00:58.200 --> 1:01:03.840 office was ms Robinson Robinson. Yeah, So we had the pitch, 1:01:04.120 --> 1:01:06.560 like the big pitch was like later on the the 1:01:06.720 --> 1:01:11.320 day and uh, and cast Key was there. Tracy shout 1:01:11.360 --> 1:01:14.200 out Tracy and she had to move. She was like, great, 1:01:14.200 --> 1:01:19.040 we gotta go. And Greg went into this feverish, fierce 1:01:20.320 --> 1:01:23.640 like you saw his brain work and he started writing 1:01:24.320 --> 1:01:27.400 and banging in and it was it was like watching 1:01:28.760 --> 1:01:33.440 Michaelangelo paint or something. It was it was like, Oh, 1:01:33.520 --> 1:01:36.560 this is happening right now in front of me, dude, 1:01:36.600 --> 1:01:42.720 is incredible. Salute Greg Daniels. Yeah. When when he was 1:01:42.760 --> 1:01:45.920 doing it, going into his writing mode and cast Key 1:01:46.080 --> 1:01:48.800 was trying to sell Greg we go, he almost like 1:01:48.840 --> 1:01:52.280 you know, like he was typing. It was. It was 1:01:52.720 --> 1:01:57.000 it was amazing brow. He was just he like he 1:01:57.040 --> 1:02:00.640 had an idea, he had I swear it was like 1:02:00.680 --> 1:02:04.400 watching Harry Potter or something. It was. It was magic. 1:02:04.480 --> 1:02:09.120 It was like a world wind around him. And he 1:02:09.240 --> 1:02:11.520 almost barked at her, which she trying to get it 1:02:11.640 --> 1:02:17.919 to go. Yeah. See the smartest comedy person you know. Yes, 1:02:18.440 --> 1:02:21.920 I'm to say absolutely, I do love working with Greg. 1:02:22.480 --> 1:02:24.560 I mean, he couldn't be a nicer guy, you know, 1:02:24.720 --> 1:02:29.400 and then smartest dude in every room. Yeah, what are 1:02:29.440 --> 1:02:37.080 you what are you most thankful for? For the office? Um? 1:02:37.120 --> 1:02:41.000 You know, when you meet people, it's it's this uh 1:02:41.840 --> 1:02:46.560 genuine like like it feels like you you have friends everywhere, 1:02:47.640 --> 1:02:52.360 and that's, uh, that's a big part of my life 1:02:52.600 --> 1:02:55.320 because you know, these friends come out, they support my 1:02:55.440 --> 1:02:59.280 shows and what have you. And it's a lot of 1:02:59.680 --> 1:03:03.440 like the deeper goals. You know, people had these stories 1:03:03.480 --> 1:03:08.000 of you know, my mother had cancer and you know, 1:03:08.080 --> 1:03:10.520 we watched The Office and you know, we got through this, 1:03:10.600 --> 1:03:17.560 and it'll be these incredible, heart wrenching stories about our family. 1:03:17.600 --> 1:03:20.600 We don't talk, but we bond over the Office, you know, 1:03:21.200 --> 1:03:23.000 thank you. Asking me, he was like, why why the 1:03:23.000 --> 1:03:26.919 hell is the show still relevant? And I think that's 1:03:27.040 --> 1:03:32.280 that's a big part of it. People really connect through 1:03:32.320 --> 1:03:36.920 the show with family members or whoever. Right, why do 1:03:36.920 --> 1:03:39.440 you think it resonates? I mean, here was my impression 1:03:39.480 --> 1:03:44.640 anyway that people are like, oh the Office, Yeah, people 1:03:44.680 --> 1:03:48.880 can relate because sixty million people work in offices around 1:03:48.880 --> 1:03:53.360 the country. So of course, now like it's young people 1:03:53.880 --> 1:03:59.400 who are really into it. Soldiers for sure, man, um, yeah, 1:03:59.440 --> 1:04:02.320 and the young people like starting it and people are like, yeah, 1:04:02.320 --> 1:04:05.400 I'm on my nice nice time around watching it or 1:04:05.480 --> 1:04:07.600 we watched it you know three times a four times. 1:04:08.240 --> 1:04:11.640 You know, it's a phenomenon. I don't know how to 1:04:11.640 --> 1:04:14.760 put my finger on it. I think that awkwardness. You know, 1:04:14.760 --> 1:04:19.280 it's got everything that humor, awkward, it's got heart. You 1:04:19.600 --> 1:04:24.920 fell in love with people, you know, it's a beautiful. 1:04:25.920 --> 1:04:30.280 So yeah, alright, guys, do we need anything else from 1:04:30.400 --> 1:04:39.200 Mr Robinson here? No predictors? Good, thanks buddy, You're welcome, sir, dude. 1:04:39.400 --> 1:04:45.360 It's been so crazy. I've seen everyone, John, John, I Rain. 1:04:45.920 --> 1:04:51.880 I'm sure this is the most born interview. I'm suck 1:04:51.920 --> 1:05:10.960 at these things. That's good, John Craig. I have to 1:05:11.040 --> 1:05:17.760 leave you with these four parting words. It is your birthday, 1:05:18.920 --> 1:05:22.560 so powerful, I know, but in all serious this happy birthday, guys. 1:05:23.160 --> 1:05:28.360 I am so glad that our paths crossed all those 1:05:28.400 --> 1:05:31.240 many years ago. And to all of you out there listening, 1:05:31.360 --> 1:05:34.280 thank you so much for joining me. We'll be back 1:05:34.320 --> 1:05:38.280 next week with a brand new episode. I promise you 1:05:38.440 --> 1:05:43.800 it will be magical. That was a hint. We'll see 1:05:43.840 --> 1:05:53.800 you next week. Off the Beat is hosted an executive 1:05:53.840 --> 1:05:58.680 produced by me Brian Baumgartner, alongside our executive producer Langley, 1:05:59.040 --> 1:06:03.440 our producers Our Diego Tapia, Liz Hayes, Hannah Harris, and 1:06:03.520 --> 1:06:08.240 Emily Carr. 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