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Speaker 1: And then through the window you saw them being like silence,

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Speaker 1: I'm Craig Robinson and I played Darryl on The Office.

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Speaker 1: Hi everyb and welcome back to Off the Beat, a

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Speaker 1: very special episode of Off the Beat. I am your host,

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Speaker 1: Brian baum Gartner. Now this is a pretty special week. Right,

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Speaker 1: It's October, We're we're nearing all hollows eve, if you will.

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Speaker 1: But also this week, many many many moons ago, two

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Speaker 1: This year, well, I I have decided to put myself

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Speaker 1: as you know we're in football season and the office

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Football league is it. It's eighteenth year. We're in

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Speaker 1: is failing this year very very hard. Happy birthday, John,

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Speaker 1: beat here. He is my pal, John Krasinski. Bubble and Squeak.

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Speaker 1: We were in the scenes together coming from two totally

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00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,479
Speaker 1: different places, and that's what was so cool, like the

427
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 1: weird explosive thing, and it was one of those things

428
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 1: where you know, I think that when you put yourself

429
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: as an audience member and you're like, I think this

430
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 1: is funny. I knew this is what I would want

431
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: to see, is me trying to tell him something and

432
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 1: him being annoying. Or the best is when we teamed up,

433
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: when we did when we did stuff together and we

434
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 1: were a team, that was great. That stuff was amazing,

435
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 1: like those those talking heads where we do together. Don't

436
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,360
Speaker 1: think I was professional once in those because when I

437
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 1: sat in a chair next to him, that weird energy

438
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 1: radiated off of him and I just started laughing. I'm

439
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 1: a crier laugher, and I had like that high pitched

440
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 1: girl laughter. That's what made rain so good. Is he

441
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 1: he was able to remember. We always used to laugh

442
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: because he had this look on his face that he'd

443
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 1: give to me that would make me break every time.

444
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 1: And by the way, it's like his face didn't even move,

445
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 1: but like some energy came out and I would laugh

446
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 1: every time. He would do this like really funny, kind

447
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 1: of like dumb face at me, and I would laugh

448
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 1: every time, and it's funny. It's almost like he, of

449
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: all people, made the lines feel like improv. Him and

450
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 1: Steve I think made the lines feel the most like

451
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 1: they were improving. You know, you're a part of my

452
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 1: favorite moment of shooting ever. People always asked me, what's

453
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 1: the hardest you ever laughed on set? Without a doubt,

454
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: it's when you sat on his lap. When you sat

455
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 1: on his lap and his improv with you. I think

456
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: you can see it on the out takes, right. Oh yeah,

457
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 1: it's the funniest. And by the way, to your point again,

458
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 1: you're right they always went to you for a button

459
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: because any time they went to me for a button

460
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 1: and Steve was doing improv, I was not there physically not.

461
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 1: I remember Matt Soon going just just let me know,

462
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 1: are you gonna be there? And I was like no,

463
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 1: because I would laugh so hard that I had to

464
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: walk off set into the diving they office and I

465
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 1: was just the most unprofessional and they would you were

466
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 1: doing such good work, and he said something about like

467
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: attaching balloons to you or something, and they whipped to

468
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: me and I was like, dude, don't do it. I'm

469
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: only going to fail you. And that was one of

470
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: the only times that I just literally gave up on

471
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: doing my job. And then he pretended that his legs

472
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: were asleep. Yeah, but his voice changed when you sat

473
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 1: on his lap. Well, that's that's the thing that I

474
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 1: always that I always say to people was and it

475
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: was right in my ear. It was right in my ear.

476
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: And he I would go, kill what would you like

477
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 1: a little and it was like this inhalation of air. Jeez,

478
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 1: I didn't know you were going to ask me that.

479
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: And he goes, well, thank quicker like that. And remember

480
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,199
Speaker 1: when he started banging his head on the glass. Oh,

481
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: that whole improv And I remember, God bless Steve. He

482
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,439
Speaker 1: used to get so frustrated, not really, but like I know,

483
00:25:58,560 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: I was a pain in the aster room because I

484
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 1: would laughed so hard, and some of them He'd be

485
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: doing the most genius stuff and I'd be in a

486
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 1: two shot with him ruining the take and he was like,

487
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: come on, man, maybe don't laugh on this one. So

488
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 1: nice about it. But also it was like I'd like

489
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 1: to go home. And yeah, The Office was constructed in

490
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: the opposite way than most comedies, or certainly television comedies,

491
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: where typically the leads are the young lovers and then

492
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 1: you've got a crazy uncle or the crazy boss that

493
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: that is back in the corner. No, um, this show

494
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: was the reverse, which which is which? Which was putting

495
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: and specifically the moments and examining like why Jim and Pam,

496
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: like why that relationship became so important to people and

497
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: so charged? Was people weren't watching a half hour of it.

498
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: They were just stealing a moment from the corner, which

499
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: makes you like I want to lean forward. And the

500
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: other thing was there's an idea that when you generalize,

501
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: it becomes more universal, right, like this is generally who

502
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: this guy is from this midwestern town. But the amount

503
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: of specificity and reality both in those moments between Jim

504
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: and Dwight and Jim and Pam. The opposite is true

505
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: that the more specific you get that the characters become

506
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 1: infinitely more real and therefore universal and relatable. To me,

507
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: that idea is is interesting. No, I think it's I

508
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 1: think it's really true, and I think that's sort of

509
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 1: the magic trick of the show is. And I don't

510
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: I don't know the specifics of why it's so huge now.

511
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it's mind blowing to me. A four year

512
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: old came up to me at the airport and was like,

513
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 1: it's my favorite show and I was like, do you

514
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: get any of it? And they're like, yeah, like it

515
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: totally universal, like you said. But I also think that

516
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: the stakes were set up so wonderfully because that's real life, right.

517
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: I think when you're in love with someone, especially someone

518
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 1: at work, you very much look forward to those interactions

519
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: at work. But that means that when you go home,

520
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: in your home life with your friends or whatever else

521
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: you're doing, you will not see that person. So you

522
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: are sort of, I don't know, tantalized by the idea

523
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: that like, when I get that moment, I'll savor it.

524
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: And I think that's real life, and that's what we

525
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: did in the show. I particularly, I'm thinking right now

526
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: about the relationship with Roy you know what I mean.

527
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: It's like it's like lighting a fuse that might blow

528
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: six weeks from now, but it was a very specific fuse. Right,

529
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: So the first time you saw me and David together,

530
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: people were like, oh, okay, so you just told me

531
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: that this is a potentially explosive thing, and then we

532
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: didn't go into it. You'd reference him a couple of times,

533
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: and it was very specific references. And she said that

534
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: he brought me to the game and left me at

535
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: the arena, like things like that, where you're just slowly

536
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: leading the breadcrumbs back to the trigger, and then by

537
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: the time he comes in and pushes me, you're so

538
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: invested in that. Not in a television way. I think

539
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: in like a like these people are my friends, oh right,

540
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: my friend, as much as I love them together, is

541
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: trying to go after a girl who's taken. That's real

542
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: life steaks rather than TV steaks. And I think that's

543
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: what made it like the first time that we accidentally

544
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: kissed at Dundees and like that's real life, whereas a

545
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: regular television show would have a big, huge kiss scene

546
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: like they finally got together, and it was I remember

547
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: reading that script and being like man, that is so

548
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: smart that have the audience be like did they just

549
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: kiss and it's and not give them what they thought

550
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: they want. It was so because that's how I felt.

551
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: I felt like, oh my god, I thought we were

552
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: gonna do some huge kissing and instead she just did

553
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: it at Dundeees and you're like, oh my god. And

554
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: of course I would have stewed on that for months

555
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: and been like, was that that count? Was she just drunk?

556
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: Rather than if it was a big kiss scene where

557
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: I took her out back and like, you know, made

558
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: some huge overture, you'd be like, oh good, I'm being

559
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: entertained by this moment. But I don't feel anything. I'm

560
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: not connected. I don't know if any of that made sense. No,

561
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: that's so smart. I think I um. I think people

562
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: see themselves in the show, and it's a combination I

563
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: would imagine of every character. You know. I don't think

564
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: you look at one character and you go like, oh,

565
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: I'm Michael. I hope you're not Michael. But it's more like, oh, man,

566
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: I have a co worker that loves cats, and I

567
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: have a coworker that drives me insane. I don't know.

568
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: Maybe that's it, and certainly people have bosses that are crazy, right, Yeah,

569
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: it's what you were talking about, I think is so true.

570
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: I had a conversation with Greg where traditional sitcoms there's

571
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: a rhythm, there's a rhythm to the joke, it's it's

572
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: it's totally on the beat. And I think that in

573
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: the relationship between Jim and Pam, everything happened off of

574
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: the beat, not at the time you expected, right from

575
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: way early, like right like in terms of like the progression.

576
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: But then also what Greg talked about a little bit

577
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: was once it got to a certain point that he

578
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: was like, well, we need to get them together, Like

579
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: I'm not going to create artificial impediments that make everybody

580
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: go like come on, because I think he had brought

581
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: this audience in to a very seemingly realistic relationship. So

582
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: if you started doing weird things that felt fake, then

583
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: people wouldn't relate to it anymore. I'm saying, like, I

584
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: love I can admit on this podcast. I was never

585
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: like a casting No, I wasn't really great with dating,

586
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: and I feel and I think that's what's so great

587
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: about the show is how do you go about that? Like,

588
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: how do you start a relationship with someone who's already

589
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: with someone. It's a great place to start and then

590
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: just you know, slowly, you know. I remember also how

591
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: bold it was that when you thought you would do something,

592
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: you know, like proposed to her, he would write an

593
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: entire episode where you're like, oh man, and at the end,

594
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: this is gonna be the proposal because again in TV,

595
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: you know that, like the big scenes are coming, and

596
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: he wouldn't do it. And then when I did propose,

597
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: I love that talking head where I was like, I've

598
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: been planning on this forever, like I love that, you know. Um.

599
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: I've said to people that nothing shut down production like

600
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: an important gem and pan moment, like when there were

601
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: moments between the two down. No, I mean like shut

602
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: it down right right, like like like you're blushing right now.

603
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: But it's I mean like Casino Night and not and

604
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: not just one, two different moments in Casino Night, because

605
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: the relationship was so important to the two of you

606
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: and getting it right totally. I remember those two moments

607
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: very well. I remember the parking lot. Yeah, it's funny

608
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: now that you say that, Yeah, which must have been

609
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: frustrating for you. Oh you'd be like, oh please, just

610
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: get me out of here before they filmed this, or

611
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: it's going to be seven hours. Yeah, well we were

612
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: in there that seven hours. But again I had never

613
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: experienced anything else, so that was weird for me. Was

614
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: I remember like there was an energy around those moments.

615
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: I remember. I remember so many different things, but I

616
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: remember that parking lot scene. I remember not knowing where

617
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: Matt was and Ken wouldn't tell me and he was like,

618
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 1: don't worry about it, just do the scene or whatever,

619
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: you know, and I thought that was cool. And then

620
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 1: certainly I remember the like the big moment, the big

621
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 1: kiss that was shut down, like that was nobody was

622
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: on set, nobody was around the craft service table. But

623
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: I didn't know that was happening. So I walked on,

624
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: you know, ready to joke with folks, and they were

625
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: like not wanting to make eye contact with me, and

626
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: I was like, what happened? I feel like I said

627
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: something to you, like I was going on. I know.

628
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: I kind of remember that too, And then it made

629
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: me more nervous because then they were like, all right, now,

630
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: maybe you should go out the door and whenever you're

631
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: ready come in, And I was like, what's happening? There

632
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,479
Speaker 1: is no I'm gonna call action and they're like, no, man,

633
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: well do you remember that night. I remember that night.

634
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: I remember because you were so frustrated you were still there. No,

635
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 1: I just I remember it being so big. I think

636
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: the thing that I am most proud of artistically he

637
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: is not blowing your top in that moment in the

638
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: shot in the show was every single shot where the

639
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:13,720
Speaker 1: camera was positioned. Just the discussion about are the cameras

640
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: in the room? Are the characters aware the cameras in

641
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: the room? How does that change behavior based on the

642
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: fact that the cameras are in the room or if

643
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: they think that they're alone. And I think that at

644
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 1: that moment, specifically at the end of Casino Night, you

645
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: see the slats in the blinds and them shooting and

646
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: catching you guys, that there are such an intimacy. You know.

647
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: It's like Randall and Matt were to my favorite people

648
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 1: on Earth and I couldn't see them, and like, I

649
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: don't even think I got to see the set before

650
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 1: I went up, you know what I mean. Like it

651
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: was also weird, and I'm sure for a better actor

652
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: you'd think like, oh, that's what you need, right, And

653
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: so I was like, I am a terrible actor because

654
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm nervous, and maybe that was the intention,

655
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: but I was like, I don't even know. Remember, Randall

656
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: wasn't anywhere, and usually I was like what are we doing?

657
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: Like what? Which? What? What? How? Where do you want

658
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: me to be whenever? And it was really weird. I

659
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: was so freaked out. And I remember I was on

660
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: set for a while before Jenna got onto because Jenna

661
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: was taking her moment, which is fine, but again I

662
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 1: was so not knowing of that world that I didn't

663
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 1: know that I could take thirty minutes in my trailer

664
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: to prepare. Mentally, I was like, mentally, what's happened? And

665
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: then I got so much more scared, and I was like,

666
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: you know, then you start to think like, oh god,

667
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: I didn't do my homework and she's doing your homework. Right.

668
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: Were you on board with the trajectory of Jim and

669
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: Pam's relationship, like just in terms of the timing, did

670
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: you have concerns about it happening to soon? No, it

671
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: sounds like a hallmark version of Greg, But I truly

672
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: and Greg I trusted. I could tell that he had

673
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: a beat on it. He was always so nice to

674
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: involve Jenna, and I remember that he would tell you

675
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: kind of when things were going to happen, and he

676
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: would remind you in scenes, you know, don't worry. This

677
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: isn't the moment that's going to lead to this, that'll

678
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: happened later, like he he had it all tracked out. Also,

679
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: we were what in season five or six by the

680
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 1: time that I was in that motel with that other

681
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,439
Speaker 1: girl and stuff like that, And that's the only time

682
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: I remember putting whatever, put my foot down, not really,

683
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: but I remember I got that was the only time

684
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: I was very much against because he was saying, you're

685
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: going to actually make out with her in this scene.

686
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: And that was the episode I directed. Yes, that's right,

687
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 1: but the bed bugs and I don't remember. It may

688
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,479
Speaker 1: have been an earlier version about you guys making out,

689
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,439
Speaker 1: but I remember that was the only time we had

690
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: like a it was like a bad, negative moment. But

691
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: I remember being in a room and it was like

692
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: I remember finding myself kind of saying things that I

693
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: never thought i'd say before, like I'm not going to

694
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: shoot it. Remember Paul Lieberstein was in the room. He

695
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: was like, no, you you will do it in an

696
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: aggressive way. But it was like he saw the benefit

697
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 1: of doing it. And I remember saying to Greg, there's

698
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: a threshold with which you can push our audience. They

699
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: are so dedicated, We have shown such great respect to them.

700
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 1: There's a level of messing with them that you've done,

701
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: like in a great way. I mean like you've messed

702
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: with them by the whole kiss happening too early. And

703
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: I think there's a moment where if you push them

704
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: too far, they'll never come back. And I think that

705
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: if you show Jim to be cheating, they'll never come back. Yeah,

706
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: And I what did you think? That's right? You directed

707
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: what what was your feeling? Well, my recollection, well, it

708
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: was never that you were going to make out, but

709
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: it was about there was what was the line? How

710
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: far can we go? I was supposed to kiss her

711
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,240
Speaker 1: in that bathroom. I remember that's what they were pitching,

712
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't know that that's going

713
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: to go well for us. Yeah, but even just you

714
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: being in a room with her, you know, how would

715
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: you behave even if you didn't think the cameras were there,

716
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: Because the cameras were shooting from outside and they weren't

717
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: in the room except when Dwight came in. Um. Anyway,

718
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: the whole point is the passion for which you fought,

719
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: and Jenna fought and Greg like that everybody was collaboratively.

720
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,959
Speaker 1: That it wasn't a negative fight. It was a big

721
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: conversation because again it was so important to everybody. Yeah,

722
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: but also I had trusted Greg up to that point,

723
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: and it was really hard for me to say, I

724
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,959
Speaker 1: think we're actually making the wrong decision. Right. Um, you

725
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: obviously wildly successful when people approach you. Now, what percentage

726
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: of it is about the office? Oh? Large majority. Again,

727
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: I think it's the difference between fans who feel like

728
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: they're a part of something and fans who have watched something.

729
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: I think there's very few things that I watched when

730
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: I was a kid that I felt so connected to.

731
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: It was more like, oh, I like the movie ET,

732
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: But there were very few things that I felt like,

733
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: if I ever saw that person, we shared a life

734
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: moment together. Had I ever met Chris Farley, I would

735
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: have said that because I watched Tommy Boy so many

736
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,720
Speaker 1: times that he didn't know he was my best friend,

737
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: but he was my best friend. So I think that

738
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: thing is like I shared so much in my life

739
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: with that show. That's why I think that people, you know,

740
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: people have seen other things, which is great. Certainly recently,

741
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: like I think quiet place in Jack Ryan people are

742
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 1: coming up a lot more. But I I think our

743
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: fans see me and instead of going up to an

744
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: actor to get a picture or something, they're actually seeing

745
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 1: a friend of theirs. Is my point, My long meandering

746
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: point is no one looks at Jack Ryan. And I

747
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, my buddy, Jack Ryant, Oh

748
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: my god, you're an actor. I didn't realize they do

749
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: think that with Jim and I've had My favorite experiences

750
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: with fans is when they think we've gone to school

751
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 1: together or something. That's my favorite. Like I I had

752
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: one where a woman said we know each other and

753
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: I said Doe, and she goes, we went to school

754
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: together and I was like, I don't. I don't think

755
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: we did, and she went, yes we did. And it

756
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: was like that thing of like why am I being

757
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: awkward about it? And where did you go to school?

758
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: And she said some school and I went, I did

759
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: not go to that school and she went, yes you did,

760
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: and like I was like okay, and then I left

761
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: and I could see that either else someone else has

762
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: been like, you don't know that person. You just thought

763
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: that it was at the airport bookshop and then through

764
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: the window you saw them being like silence, being like,

765
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 1: oh no, God, it was great. But I think that

766
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: that's such a credit to the show that you don't

767
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: just like the show, you actually think you know those people. Um,

768
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: what are you most thankful for? Oh? My god, everything?

769
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: I mean, are you asking me as a person? Well,

770
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: I mean, without sounding hyperball, it's it is my everything.

771
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: I mean, that show changed my entire life. Was twenty

772
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: three when it started, so I hadn't even really formed

773
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,280
Speaker 1: an identity of who I was. And so that show,

774
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: not only from a rear perspective, where I've had more

775
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: opportunity than I ever would have dreamt of having for

776
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: one day, I have for an entire lifetime, is all

777
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: due to that show. I never would be doing any

778
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: other thing that you've seen me do, writing, directing, acting,

779
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: and something else if it wasn't for that show. But

780
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: as a person, I think it sort of gave me

781
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: this very quintessential building block that I got to stand

782
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 1: on to build the rest of my life. Yeah, you're

783
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: you're about to say, that's all crack of ship? What what? What?

784
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: What would you say? I think it's very similar. I

785
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 1: think I was processing what you were saying that because

786
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: of the people who were working on it, not just

787
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: the actors, but the writers who are like all showrunners

788
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 1: now from the early season, you know, extremely successful, fun

789
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: good shows. It's but also our crew. Like you said,

790
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 1: like you know again in a very probably lame, cliche

791
00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: hallmark way, like I don't know that as a person

792
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: I would be able to have the luxury forget you know,

793
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 1: success or finance or anything. It's the luxury of being

794
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: who I wanted to be. I didn't know who I

795
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: wanted to be. And because of such a warm environment

796
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 1: where if everyone had a color, people were splashing their

797
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: experience and their colors all over me, I got exposed

798
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: to everything I wanted to be and then got to

799
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: choose to move forward with my life in a way

800
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: that I not only didn't know existed, but that I

801
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: could sustain. Like that you could, you could do fantastic

802
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 1: fun stuff every day for ten years of your life.

803
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: And genuinely, I've been asked, I'm sure you get asked

804
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 1: all the time, what year. Were you guys all over it?

805
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: Like when were you guys like we're over it? And

806
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: I genuinely am trying not to look back with revisionist history.

807
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:56,439
Speaker 1: I don't remember one moment where I was like, such

808
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: a job, Yeah, writing, acting, directing. Is there one you prefer?

809
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: That's a good question. I don't know. I think yeah.

810
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 1: I think acting was always I think because it was

811
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: the first, there's something I really love about it. I

812
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 1: think that there's elements to acting being more fun because

813
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: you don't have the weight of responsibility of any kind

814
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: like turning into script. You have the responsibility. I hope

815
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: this doesn't suck, and directing you of all the responsibilities,

816
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 1: which can be terrifying. But by the way, you don't

817
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: want to suck being an actor either. But I don't know.

818
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: I guess that it's once you've gone to you know,

819
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: the whole behind the camera idea and you see how

820
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: the sausage is made, you realize how I think writing

821
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: and directing made me a better actor, and vice versa.

822
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 1: You know everybody. I remember always getting awards, people would

823
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: always be like in thanks to the crew and whatever,

824
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 1: and we had the greatest crew of all time and

825
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 1: I think that that taught me to look back on

826
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: all the things I loved movies and television, whatever, and

827
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 1: realized that for every moment you remember watching and loving,

828
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: there were three to six people who made that moment

829
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: exactly happen at that exact time, and it was magic,

830
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: from props to camera to set design anyway, that kind

831
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: of thing. I don't know if that answered anything. No.

832
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: I think so like people always ask how did I

833
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: get into directing or writing, and it's like, because I

834
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: went to the best film school ever, which was the Office,

835
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,720
Speaker 1: and you learn what's good. I think my taste level

836
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: became solidified on that show, like I see what's possible

837
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: now and everything I do. Um. I've said this before

838
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 1: that I never would have directed and rewritten A Quiet

839
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: Place if it wasn't for Greg, because I remember him

840
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: saying to me one day, don't look at this as

841
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,919
Speaker 1: a comedy. Just be in the moment, right you You

842
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: your character doesn't know he's funny. We get to we

843
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: get to decide, right, So we're not making a comedy.

844
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: We're just telling the best story we can. And if

845
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: you end up laughing, great, If you cry at a

846
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: moment with Pam great, but just tell the best story.

847
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: So when I got offered Quiet Place, I was like,

848
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,240
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about horror. And I remember actually

849
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 1: sitting down before I wrote the script and said, I'm

850
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:33,919
Speaker 1: not going to make a horror movie. I'm not gonna

851
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: make a genre movie. I'm gonna tell the best story

852
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: I can about this family. And if you end up

853
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 1: getting scared at moments, that is on you, because it's

854
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: only my job is only to tell you the most

855
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: concise and strong story I can, and then every emotional

856
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 1: thing that you feel is coming from you and how

857
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: you're experiencing it. And I remember I never would have

858
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: had the guts to do that, because I would have

859
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: said the same thing I said to Greg that day,

860
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: which is like, I don't to mess this up. I

861
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 1: want to make sure I'm really funny in this scene

862
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: for you, and he was like, no, no, I don't

863
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: want you to be funny. I want you to tell

864
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: the best story and let other people decide whether the

865
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: scene is funny. And I was like, mind blowing stuff.

866
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: That is very, very smart. But The Quiet Place isn't

867
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: a comedy. No, you should see it before we do

868
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 1: an interview shoot. Thanks Bud, You're welcome. Is it over? Yeah?

869
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: I mean, do you have anything else you want to say?

870
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,280
Speaker 1: I mean we feel like we covered a lot of topics,

871
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: We covered a lot of ground. I don't know what

872
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: I said. Um, John, I love you so much and

873
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming and talking to me. This is great.

874
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 1: But also it's just so good to see you. It's

875
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: so good to see you. I feel like I just

876
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 1: went to a therapy session. You did, you did great.

877
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 1: Which you don't cut yourself out of this, you you,

878
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: You'll get my bill. Um. We still have headphones on,

879
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: which allows me to do this. I don't want to

880
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: slip round. I don't want your slippery. I don't want

881
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: your slipping around in my brain or ear. Um are

882
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 1: we done? Can I please get out of here? All right? Ali? Guys, dude,

883
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: thank you, welcome, thank you, Welcome back everybody. I hope

884
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 1: you enjoyed that. But now it's time to celebrate the

885
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: real birthday boy, Mr Craig Robinson. That's right today, October

886
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: Craig entered this world. Well not today, but some years ago,

887
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: fifty years ago. In fact, Craig was born. Craig and

888
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: I we've been friends for over seventeen years now, and

889
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:05,240
Speaker 1: we've had, we've had, we've had some pretty good times.

890
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: You know, you have never truly lived until you have

891
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 1: spent a very late night listening to Craig Robinson play

892
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: any song you could possibly name on his keyboard. That's right,

893
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: any song you can name, Craig can play. And if

894
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: he doesn't know the song, this is not a joke.

895
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: You just hum a little bit of the song for

896
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 1: him and he starts playing it and it's usually better

897
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 1: than the original. He is absolute fact. He is a

898
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: musical genius. Okay, I've done enough talking especially nicely about Craig.

899
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: The time has come here. He is my friend and yours,

900
00:49:48,239 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: Mr Craig Robinson. So what's up? How you doing so?

901
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm good. It's been so long since I

902
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:12,240
Speaker 1: saw you? How long? I mean a couple of years.

903
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: It's been a few what's new in your life? I mean,

904
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: I'm doing this right now. I'm on the road a

905
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: lot you Oh yeah, yeah, is this thing on? Yeah,

906
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: it's probably on. We start already. We'll not really tell

907
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: the truth, man, I mean, it's it's recording. But I'm

908
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:35,479
Speaker 1: just interested in saying what's up? Okay? Um, check check,

909
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: check check. Are you checking your sound? Yeah? Are you

910
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 1: a sound expert? Well, you're a musician, so yeah. I

911
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: mean I don't know if it's going loud or so there.

912
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: Did I ever tell you the story? This is before

913
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: I think we had done the pilot only and I

914
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: hadn't been in l a very long. I ever tell

915
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: you going the mbar story for real? I went to

916
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 1: the m Bar and they used to do like an

917
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: open mic night, and somebody was like, oh, go to

918
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: the m Bar. I think I knew somebody who was

919
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: like a server there, and I remember it was David

920
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: Cross was there, and Sarah Silverman some other people and

921
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: you you were so far and away the funniest thing

922
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: that night. Well you had a guy with Yeah, I

923
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: think me and Jerry did. Yeah. Yeah. How many shows

924
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: you do a year? I mean how many cities? Oh shows,

925
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 1: shows are like, you know, five sometimes seven a weekend,

926
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: So I probably do thirty plus weeks. Are you jesus

927
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: if I'm not filming myself. So you're the hardest working

928
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: man in show business, not by um. You incorporate music

929
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: a lot into your stand up. Do you think that

930
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: Darryl being a musician on the show. Did that come

931
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: from you? Do you think the writers wrote that? Yeah?

932
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 1: They they We were like a towel being rung up.

933
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: They got whatever whatever they knew we could do, they

934
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: got it out of us, right, absolutely. Yeah, you started

935
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: pretty early. I mean I remember that Christmas episode. You

936
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: and I think we were DJA in the corner and

937
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: then gradually you start. Yeah, we had like what do

938
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: you call those little balls that with the lights and

939
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: uh disc disco ball? Obviously, I mean for people who

940
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: don't know, music comes very easy to you. Yes, I

941
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: have seen people hum you tunes and you start playing

942
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: well trained here is it trained or is it natural?

943
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: I mean both. You have to sit down and like

944
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: there's time I was sitting, like play a song in

945
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: this breakdown note for no each chord we want to

946
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: play again. We want to play again until I get

947
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 1: and go through the whole song. And it Once you

948
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: do that, you know sometimes you start you know, see

949
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: patterns and you know, see what's going on in the song.

950
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: So that's how you learned. Do you read music? Yeah,

951
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: but how you do not like I can hear me.

952
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 1: It takes me a while to read some music, but

953
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: I can hear pretty good. You hear better than anyone

954
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. Okay, no, I'm just saying I'm trying.

955
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, but you trained yourself to do that.

956
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: I think people think about it as being sort of

957
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: a natural gift, but no, it's definitely a gift. But

958
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: it's it's you know, it's a gift. You have to

959
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: work for it. It's like you gotta know you had

960
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: the talent to do it and then just developed that, right.

961
00:53:55,440 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 1: I remember later on they kept pairing me with you

962
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 1: and Ed Helms in musical situations. Z Kevin and the Zitz.

963
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 1: It was Kevin and the Zitz, and I remember we

964
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: would you know, we never had time to read the

965
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 1: episodes before we did them, and we would read the

966
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: episodes and they would be like song, song, song, and

967
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: I don't know if you knew this. I would go

968
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: to them and I would be like, okay, when is rehearsals?

969
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: When is rehearsal? And then I would come to you

970
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: and I'd be like all right, you guys, can we

971
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: And you'd be like yeah, yeah, no, we're good, We're good,

972
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,280
Speaker 1: and Ed be the same way, like as like, no,

973
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 1: that's fine, No, I got it. And I was like no, no, no, guys,

974
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,959
Speaker 1: I don't have it. I don't know what the hell

975
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: I'm doing. Um there's a quote that has been attributed

976
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: to you which that you basically started doing music because

977
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 1: it's there were so many funny people in Chicago that

978
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: you wanted to do something that was different in a way.

979
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: Is that true? Not exactly? Okay, Um, I just you know,

980
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 1: it's my thing. And I had the song that I

981
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: did in college that transferred over to the stage. I

982
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: would like play, you know, piano, the same singing to

983
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,479
Speaker 1: a girl on the phone, you know, singing a nice

984
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: and like talking to her, singing to a little bit.

985
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: You know, it's romantic, and I hit up with it.

986
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: Can I had some booty right, and then I was like, okay, him,

987
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 1: listen to see if she's laughing, and watched, so she's laughing. Okay,

988
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: we're good. But so then I did that like, I

989
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: don't know, some open mic kind of thing. But it

990
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: wasn't the open mic. It was like, you know, actors

991
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: in the room on a Friday night, like you know,

992
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: and then you just did what you do. So then

993
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 1: once you started doing comedy, I went up and did

994
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 1: this show and uh, it didn't go too well. I

995
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: was just think, all heckless heaven. It's in Chicago, and

996
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: you get eight minutes to perform the first three minutes,

997
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: nobody gets to mess with you. From the third minute

998
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: on if people wanted to hecker you. There are three

999
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: people in the audience who have rubber chickens. If you've

1000
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,280
Speaker 1: got all three rubber chickens, you had to get off stage.

1001
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: And then uh, three people have score cards. So I

1002
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: got two rubber chickens the first night and before I

1003
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 1: get to there like I'm not getting a third chicken.

1004
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 1: It's good night. Then the next week I came back

1005
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: with my keyboard. That was all she wrote. You did

1006
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: the song that ends with your buddy getting the phone. Um,

1007
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: somebody's sucking my lady. Somebody's sucking my lady. Yeah, somebody's Yeah,

1008
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 1: that's that's what you saw. That's what I saw at

1009
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: m bar. That's what got me. They got me in

1010
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: front of Apple Town to get me in front of

1011
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 1: Greg Daniels. Yeah. When I did my audition for the Office,

1012
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 1: Great Games, was like, doesn't get any funny into that.

1013
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, now audition, like oh, what like

1014
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: seems like a big voted confidence. Right, I'm thinking like, oh, man,

1015
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: now wait because they had seen it, they all you

1016
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: at a club, well and not at the club, but

1017
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 1: you know, like you gotta see this guy or you know,

1018
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: you know right right right right? Um. I feel like Darryl,

1019
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: you know, even from the beginning, had kind of a

1020
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: gem thing with the camera, like it felt like you

1021
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 1: were on the same page, Like you would do the

1022
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 1: looks to the camera like did you just see that idiot.

1023
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: I don't get a lot of camera looks untill later,

1024
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: but people do say, yeah, see me as a voice

1025
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: of reason in all the insanity. Yeah, Ben Silverman says

1026
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: that you're the smartest person who worked at Dunner Mifflin. Well, no,

1027
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: not you, but Darryl right right, right right. I can

1028
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 1: see that. Yeah, Daryl was just trying to you know,

1029
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: be honest, make an honest buck, and I couldn't believe

1030
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: a lot of things that was going around him. And

1031
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: you know, he knew he had to keep the piece

1032
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: and knew he had to uh keep his job. Yeah,

1033
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 1: so I don't I don't think he ever thought I'm

1034
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 1: smart than these cats. He just you know, just like

1035
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: would you belat these cats? You know, but it felt like,

1036
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: you know, they showed a lot that the warehouse maybe

1037
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 1: was run more efficiently than the regular office. Like you

1038
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: were you were good. Yeah. Um. Darryl's relationship with Michael

1039
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:30,479
Speaker 1: in the show, it was a very like he kept

1040
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: coming to you for advice, particularly on black culture. It

1041
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: was a very very funny dynamic. What was your experience

1042
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: working with Steve? He's the greatest. The way he could

1043
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: turn it comedy button off and on like a falsett.

1044
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:55,439
Speaker 1: It was just genius to me. Whenever I had seen

1045
00:58:55,520 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 1: with him moment and I was like titilation was holy know,

1046
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: very exciting. And I learned from him, stole from him

1047
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: all of that. Yeah, it's funny that you said. You

1048
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: said that because I thought you were going to say

1049
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: something else, which I think is also true. Is part

1050
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: of his genius is how he turns so quick even

1051
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: within a scene, you know what I mean, Like he

1052
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: is he is fighting down one path and something may

1053
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 1: happen and he just turns it like that and he's like,

1054
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 1: you know, ultimate scene partner two. He listens and reacts two,

1055
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 1: you know what's going on. Like we had a scene

1056
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 1: I didn't even really notice until it aired, it was

1057
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 1: a negotiation. It might be my favorite episode just because

1058
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: the work I did with Steve and being able to

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Speaker 1: play with him like that. It was the scene where

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Speaker 1: he's like, I'm not going to speak first, decline to

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Speaker 1: speak first. So we did a couple of takes and

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00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 1: it was fine. Uh, and then he did his next

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01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 1: take and he's making these faces and if you look closely,

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01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 1: you can see Meet started to crack a smile on that.

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01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: But it was just like, without even speaking, he could,

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01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 1: you know, pull us out of you. The laughter is like, oh,

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01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 1: he's about to get me. But also in that episode

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01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 1: when I was saying, uh, where he listens and you know,

1069
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 1: like the perfect improvisation partner, you're listening and take it

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Speaker 1: to the next level. So we're talking about, you know,

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01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 1: getting raged from Jane. I said, make it happen, Captain,

1072
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 1: he said, I will, Sergeant. My god, amazing. H Have

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Speaker 1: you ever seen Greg going to his own like what?

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01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: So we were doing this show, that's what in the

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01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: office was ms Robinson Robinson. Yeah, So we had the pitch,

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01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: like the big pitch was like later on the the

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01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 1: day and uh, and cast Key was there. Tracy shout

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01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 1: out Tracy and she had to move. She was like, great,

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01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 1: we gotta go. And Greg went into this feverish, fierce

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01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 1: like you saw his brain work and he started writing

1081
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 1: and banging in and it was it was like watching

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01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 1: Michaelangelo paint or something. It was it was like, Oh,

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01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 1: this is happening right now in front of me, dude,

1084
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 1: is incredible. Salute Greg Daniels. Yeah. When when he was

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01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 1: doing it, going into his writing mode and cast Key

1086
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 1: was trying to sell Greg we go, he almost like

1087
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: you know, like he was typing. It was. It was

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01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 1: it was amazing brow. He was just he like he

1089
01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 1: had an idea, he had I swear it was like

1090
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 1: watching Harry Potter or something. It was. It was magic.

1091
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 1: It was like a world wind around him. And he

1092
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 1: almost barked at her, which she trying to get it

1093
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:17,919
Speaker 1: to go. Yeah. See the smartest comedy person you know. Yes,

1094
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 1: I'm to say absolutely, I do love working with Greg.

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01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he couldn't be a nicer guy, you know,

1096
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 1: and then smartest dude in every room. Yeah, what are

1097
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 1: you what are you most thankful for? For the office? Um?

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01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 1: You know, when you meet people, it's it's this uh

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01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 1: genuine like like it feels like you you have friends everywhere,

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01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 1: and that's, uh, that's a big part of my life

1101
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 1: because you know, these friends come out, they support my

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01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 1: shows and what have you. And it's a lot of

1103
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 1: like the deeper goals. You know, people had these stories

1104
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 1: of you know, my mother had cancer and you know,

1105
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 1: we watched The Office and you know, we got through this,

1106
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 1: and it'll be these incredible, heart wrenching stories about our family.

1107
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 1: We don't talk, but we bond over the Office, you know,

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Speaker 1: thank you. Asking me, he was like, why why the

1109
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:26,919
Speaker 1: hell is the show still relevant? And I think that's

1110
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 1: that's a big part of it. People really connect through

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01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 1: the show with family members or whoever. Right, why do

1112
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 1: you think it resonates? I mean, here was my impression

1113
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 1: anyway that people are like, oh the Office, Yeah, people

1114
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: can relate because sixty million people work in offices around

1115
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 1: the country. So of course, now like it's young people

1116
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: who are really into it. Soldiers for sure, man, um, yeah,

1117
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 1: and the young people like starting it and people are like, yeah,

1118
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 1: I'm on my nice nice time around watching it or

1119
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 1: we watched it you know three times a four times.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's a phenomenon. I don't know how to

1121
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 1: put my finger on it. I think that awkwardness. You know,

1122
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 1: it's got everything that humor, awkward, it's got heart. You

1123
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 1: fell in love with people, you know, it's a beautiful.

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01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, alright, guys, do we need anything else from

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Speaker 1: Mr Robinson here? No predictors? Good, thanks buddy, You're welcome, sir, dude.

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01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 1: It's been so crazy. I've seen everyone, John, John, I Rain.

1127
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 1: I'm sure this is the most born interview. I'm suck

1128
01:04:51,920 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 1: at these things. That's good, John Craig. I have to

1129
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 1: leave you with these four parting words. It is your birthday,

1130
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 1: so powerful, I know, but in all serious this happy birthday, guys.

1131
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 1: I am so glad that our paths crossed all those

1132
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 1: many years ago. And to all of you out there listening,

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01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining me. We'll be back

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Speaker 1: next week with a brand new episode. I promise you

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Speaker 1: it will be magical. That was a hint. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you next week. Off the Beat is hosted an executive

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Speaker 1: produced by me Brian Baumgartner, alongside our executive producer Langley,

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01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 1: our producers Our Diego Tapia, Liz Hayes, Hannah Harris, and

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Speaker 1: Emily Carr. Our talent producer is Ryan Papa Zachary and

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Speaker 1: our intern is Sammy Katz. Our theme song Bubble and Squeak,

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Speaker 1: performed by my great friend Greed Bratton,