1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: It's one of those things that we looked at on film. 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: What did he do? What did he see? He was 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: mad about it, But we've got to move on. And 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: Tuckers and himself, it never changes. He is like the 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: grandpa of the group. Always keeps us in check. Um 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 1: Tucker provides the comedic relief and I'm like that strict dad. 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: I try to keep us, make sure we're all staying accountable. 8 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge. We promised the guest. We gotta 9 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: guess we when we promised, we deliver. Well, no, that's 10 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 1: not the case. But you know we got we got 11 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: the best important Guaranteam. That's true glamorous position. We got putter. Sam. Absolutely, 12 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: this is good without because you know, obviously everybody knows 13 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: what happened at the end of that Saint scheme. Right, 14 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: we were going to drag Tucker in here and start 15 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: grilling him on the right, but we brought is a 16 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: good buddy. It's a holder. Yeah, Sam, Sam can give 17 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: us some good perspective on that. And I will say 18 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: I give Tucker a lot of props for how we 19 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: handled a Postgames go to the podium. Wanted to own up, 20 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: but his press conference postgame was fantastic, and I think 21 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: he's gonna be fine. And then he went out the 22 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: next day and want a court hole tournament. Yeah, most importantly, 23 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: I mean, in all seriousness, he could have easily bailed 24 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: on that. Yeah, it's been like, no, I'm not doing act. 25 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: No I'm not I'm not coming for that. You have 26 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: a bunch of fans. No, I'm not coming to that. 27 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: But did anyone like the true champion that he is? Yeah, 28 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 1: Justin Tucker is gonna be fine, and we're gonna talk 29 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: with Sam about that and also about Sam's background is 30 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: upon our I think you guys are really gonna enjoy 31 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: this conversation. Before we get into that conversation with Sam, 32 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: we got an email to read. Uh, this is not 33 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: necessarily a question, but it's just a cool email. And 34 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: as always, you guys can email us at the lounge 35 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: at Ravens dot NFL dot net. This is from d 36 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: In Tempests and the email is Hey, guys, I just 37 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: wanted to say that I'm coming to Baltimore from Australia. 38 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 1: Whoa to watch the biggest rivalry in sports. Ravens were 39 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,679 Speaker 1: Steelerships the game I've wanted to see since two thousand ten. 40 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: I've lived in Baltimore. I lived. I lived in Baltimore 41 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: for three months during an internship at under Armour, but 42 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: it was all baseball. So he's super pumped to get 43 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: back and he can't wait to see the beautiful city. 44 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: That's awesome, hopes to bump into us so we'll be 45 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: in the game. Give me your best Australian. I'm not 46 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: I can't even do it. I don't even know how 47 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: to do it. It's gonna sound like a I come 48 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: to strip on the Bobby that. Don't do the strip 49 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: on the body. Don't do the strip on the Barbie. Barbie, 50 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: Bob Barbie. Barbie's not Barbie, No, it's Barbie. It's like barbecue. 51 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: This is like a Bobby. I thought it was like Bobby. 52 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what it means. It's 53 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: like it's like slang for barbecue. That makes sense. Sorry, 54 00:02:53,560 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: see there's something new every day anyway. Sorry, Uh it 55 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: was Dan Tempest. Sorry you apologize, We do apologies. Also, 56 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: I got to give a shout out to our guy 57 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: Matt Boyle, who cousins with the guy who works in 58 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: this building, Dan Condon and sales so they're out at 59 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: a brewery and he's there having a conversation and Matt says, 60 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: gives him too pumpkin beers. Yeah, I've heard about this. Yeah, 61 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: well we'll see you actually, you know, Dan tells me 62 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: the story, says, hey, my cousin gave me a four 63 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: pack of pumpkin beer. Give it to you guys, because 64 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: he's a big fan of the lounge. And then Dan 65 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: comes in with two beers. I said, Dan, you told 66 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: me yesterday it was four. What happened to the other two? 67 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: He goes, oh, well, so now I'm telling you now, 68 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: I'm telling you we've got to but you don't have 69 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: any yet. I may I may have taking care of 70 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: that already. So kind of pumpkin beers are we talking here? 71 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: They're good ones. They're good. Yeah, they're good ones. You know, 72 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: we'll see if you get yours. But thanks to Matt 73 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: for those. Yes, thank you very much. With that said, 74 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: let's get right into an interview with Raven's punter, Sam Cook. 75 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: It's an honor we have. We've never had you on here, 76 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, we've been banging on the door 77 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: trying to get you on. You've been you know, saying 78 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: no for years now months, years. Yea, So we finally wrangled, Jeff. 79 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: How does it feel? You know? I know this is 80 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: a great honor for you. It is a huge honor 81 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: with you guys in this small room, beautif room. No, 82 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: we call him a huddle room. It's a very colorful 83 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: huddle room. Yeah, this is as close to football as 84 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: we get. Naming our rooms huddle run. Actually very nice. 85 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,799 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. So we want to talk about you 86 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: your background life is a punter, How you become a punter? Uh, 87 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: you know, life with Justin Tucker and how difficult that 88 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: can be on a daily basis to keep your sanity, 89 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: things like that. So let's let's start out. I want 90 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: to kind of drill in on what life is like 91 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: as a punter. Um, how much do you feel like 92 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: your job it becomes just a anotonous like that. It's 93 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 1: you're doing the same thing over and over again, and 94 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: the whole name of the game is to perfect this 95 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: one thing. This right gets like I'm I'm showing you 96 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: how it's done, that's how And so do you ever 97 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: feel like it gets just monotonous for you? Well? It, yes, 98 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: there is there is a big sense of monotonous into 99 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: our monotony. We want to say, um into punning and 100 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: it's kind of the same thing with kicking, but um, 101 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: it's trying to go out there perfected each and every day. 102 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 1: And yeah, it does kind of get boring in a sense. 103 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 1: But the nice thing that we do here is we 104 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: go out and each day we have something that we're 105 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: focusing on that kind of breaks up that monotony and 106 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: with that we are able to go out there and 107 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: kind of monitor reps and yet get our work in 108 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: inequality fashion and then be done. That way, we're not 109 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: just sitting out there doing the same thing over and 110 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: over and over. So on Wednesdays and Thursdays, we have 111 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: our specifics that we focus on and we go out there. 112 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: We just focus on those particular things, get them done, 113 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: and then be done for the day. And with I 114 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: guess with all the guys out there, with Randy and Jerry, 115 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: you know, we try to keep it fun and keep 116 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: it entertaining. And when you have Tucker, it's always entertained. 117 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: And then uh, Morgan kind of keeps us all at 118 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: day with the old man style that he is. So 119 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: it's a lot of fun being out there with those 120 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: guys each and every day, and we're always trying to 121 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: improve to get better, and it's it's a great group 122 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: of people to be with. You know, I'm curious, it's 123 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: kind of weird because when you're a punter, basically everyone 124 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: hopes that you never see the field, right, Like everyone 125 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: is rooting for you to never get on the field, 126 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: and so a great It's really the only position in 127 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: football that I can think of where a good game 128 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: for you is standing on the bench and not I 129 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: mean the accession of the hold holding because you do 130 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: that as well, but like a perfect day from a 131 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: fan's perspective and really a team's respective is if you 132 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: never get on the field. Is that kind of a 133 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: weird place to be because people aren't rooting against you, 134 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: but they're rooting against what you represent, which is basically, 135 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: in the most times that's failure for the offense. Yeah, 136 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: I mean, yes, you're right. When you have a phenomenal 137 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: offense that day and you never see the field. I mean, 138 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: in some ways it's a good thing because then I'm 139 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: just out there holding for talking around P A. T. 140 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: S UM. But other times you just know that that's 141 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: your job, that's your role and when you're called upon, 142 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: you go out there and execute, and it is it 143 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: is kind of tough in a in a sense, but 144 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: it is also a good thing when you just go 145 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: out there and do your job and you're not to 146 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: be talked about, you know. You just try to stay 147 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: under the radar, do your job and then at the 148 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: end of the day go home and enjoy your time 149 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: with your family. Yeah, Sam, I'm going to ask you 150 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: a question. I've asked you more than a dozen times. Okay, 151 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: I think I know what you're gonna ask, and for 152 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: the love of God, give me an answer. He's not 153 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: gonna do it. How how many punts are in your 154 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: bag of tricks? You've asked Jerry this question too, and 155 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: he always says, well, there's a number of them. There 156 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: are there are a number of it. You can't put 157 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: a number on it. Number. Yeah, I could say we 158 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: have this one and that one, but there's different ways 159 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: you go about it. So whether or not you call 160 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: those particular punts like a specifics m He's got the 161 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: boomerang punt. Which one is your favorite punt? I think, um, 162 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: ideally the favorite one is the knuckleball. Tell us about knuckleball, 163 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 1: and I think it is just um. Usually it's a 164 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: short yardage punt that you put up there, and in turn, 165 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 1: the goal is to hopefully get the returner to sit 166 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: underneath it and try to catch it. Well, nine out 167 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: of ten times they see it go up and they 168 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: don't ever want anything to do with it, so they 169 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: just run away anyways, So it ends up becoming a 170 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: pooch punt in some sorts, But with the idea of 171 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: getting a good bounce on it. With the you have 172 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 1: them muffing right, The idea is to really trap them 173 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: trying to catch it and get it to land somewhere 174 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: around that eight to ten yard line where it allows 175 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: them to they have to make a decision. Do I 176 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: go for it and catch it and it stays right here, 177 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: or do I let it bounce and you know it 178 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: goes to the one or something like that. Is that 179 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: the one that you hit in the game the other day, 180 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: that Chris, No, that was just a regular pooch pump. 181 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 1: We um. Let's see, we did one in Cleveland and 182 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: then we did one at home, which was against trying 183 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 1: to think it was the first punt we did that one, 184 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: but it landed at the eight and the guy just 185 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: ran away again. So more times we've had one in 186 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: let's see Arizona against Patrick Peterson. Um, I love that one. No, 187 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: he just decided to run away from that too, So 188 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: that's that's the hard part. I don't think we've ever 189 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: had one go up where they've actually tried to tried 190 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: to catch it. That's usually the most dressing to see 191 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: the return, especially out of practice. But why don't you 192 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: hit that one like all the time? Like? What are 193 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: the circumstances? The reason we don't hit that one all 194 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: the time is because if you hit it so pure 195 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 1: and there's no rotation, the ball could literally go twenty yards. 196 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: Interesting the distance thing, it is a difference easily. It 197 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: could be just a shank, I mean, not necessarily a Shane. 198 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: You hit it so hard that it's pushing against the 199 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: wind that it doesn't go anywhere. So if you have 200 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 1: a little bit of rotation, then the ball could go 201 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: forty two yards. So there's a twenty yard difference on there. 202 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 1: We had one I think in the a f C 203 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: Championship game against Denver that we put up there and 204 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: it hit it so I hit it so pure that 205 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 1: it landed at the nine team we were at the forty, 206 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 1: so it's twenty one yards, you know. Granted he didn't 207 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: try for it. It landed and it rolled inside a ten, 208 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: which was good. But that's the only downfall to it. 209 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: That's why we only do it in certain situations, typically 210 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: when we have a wind, a little slight wind in 211 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: the face. So everyone always asked Tucker, like how far 212 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: of a field goal he could kick? But now it's 213 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: time to ask you perfect situation, how far of a plant? 214 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: You can't count the role because the role could go 215 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: on forever, but how how the far of a plant 216 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: do you think you could hit in the air? Mm hmm, 217 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. Don't you ever do that? Yeah, it's 218 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: like a punt pass the kick come tiss, you get 219 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: out there, you boom it as far as you can. 220 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: The challenge, right, it is a challenge. Yeah, but I 221 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:41,119 Speaker 1: don't never go out there to see how. But that's 222 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 1: honestly not even in a punt that you would ever 223 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: use in a game. Like just like I'm just gonna 224 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: try to like you're in your own ends. I mean, 225 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: like I'm going to try to hit this thing as 226 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: far and just make him retreat. Okay, yeah, we definitely 227 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: have that. That's one of your ya. But I don't 228 00:11:55,600 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: go out there every day and see how far can we. 229 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: I think we had one in Tampa two years ago 230 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: that it was sixty nine in the year. It's pretty lengthy. Yeah, 231 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: So I mean, but I don't ever go out there 232 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: and say, man, I'm going to try to get the 233 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: seventy five or did you do pass the punt kick 234 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: out things like competition when you were going up? Yeah, 235 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 1: we did a few dominated in the punt portion of 236 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: this evening, but you would be good at all of 237 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, I was usually. You know, the 238 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: hardest thing about punt at that age is the inconsistency, 239 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: you know, and so being able to put it on 240 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: that tape or on the line, that was the hardest part. 241 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: And I always had a good leg, but typically my 242 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: arm helped me the most. And then the kicking part, 243 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: you know, it's just easy. So I didn't I didn't 244 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: know this. Did you know this scar that Sam was 245 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: recruited originally to ne were asking to be a linebacker, 246 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 1: I did not know that. I knew that that you basically, 247 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: I mean the perception I think that is that people 248 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 1: think of punters and they don't think of them as 249 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: like traditional football players. But you're a guy that has 250 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: basically I don't know, I would probably put you at 251 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: the top of the athleticism in terms of the wolf fact, 252 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: you know it terms with the ability to throw, I 253 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: would put it. It's not athleticism. We're just gonna do 254 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: this talking for you. Well, okay, sure, I think, but 255 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: I think it's just being like good at a lot 256 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: of things. Right, there's difference, and that's I'm not a 257 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: great athlete, but I'm good at a lot of things. 258 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 1: I beat you and almost everything. That's that's that's that's 259 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: the difference. So you have an athlete, or you have 260 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: a football player, or you have a player, or you 261 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: have a soccer player, right right, you have you have 262 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: an athlete where you have just a kicker. Right now, 263 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: I would say, like I I have view an athlete. 264 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: There's something that can go and at least hold their 265 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: own and in many things, right, in many sports or 266 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: in many aspects of that particular sport. Um, you know, 267 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: first and foremost, kicking his heart, I got I gotta 268 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: reiterate that, whether I was just joking, just kind of 269 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: poke fun at Tucker, but it is very difficult. But 270 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: as far as athleticism, yes, there's I think there's a 271 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: big difference because I believe somebody that can go out there, 272 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: whether it be can you shoot hoops? Can you throw 273 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: a football? Can he throw a baseball? Can he hit 274 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: a baseball? Now? Being great at all those things is 275 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: another thing, you know, But yeah, exactly. But like I've 276 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: seen you at the softball you're typically you. You lead 277 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: the way in terms of like the home run derby 278 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: for that, I gotta believe you get out on the 279 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: golf course. You probably one of the best golfers on 280 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: the team. Yeah, I mean on the team, I would 281 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: say i'd probably compete. Yeah, I mean usually I'm in 282 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: the mid eighties. Who's the best mid eighties? Damn Yeah, 283 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: who's the best on the team. Morgan's usually up there. Um, 284 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: I would say me and Morgan are probably you know, 285 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: similar Joe usually he's up there. Um. But other than that, 286 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if any other like decent golfers on 287 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: the team. It used to be mcatool it would be 288 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: your scratch golfer and I don't know, Dennis Pitto was 289 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: up there, him and Joe seemed to go hand in hand. Um. 290 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: But other than that, I don't know who else. Okay, yeah, 291 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: but Sam's Sam's good at all them. I want to know, like, 292 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: how did you first realize that you were really good 293 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: at punting? Um? I mean really good? I mean I hum. 294 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: I knew I had a strong leg growing up and 295 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: did all the kicking duties. I never realized I had 296 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: a potential to take this somewhere until maybe my senior 297 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: year in college. So it was just one of those things. 298 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: I mean, the hardest thing for punters is to be consistent. 299 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: You can have a strong leg, but if you have 300 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: some sort of consistency, will somebody look at Joe and 301 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: you know I was about there in college, just trying 302 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: to hit the farthest ball I could every time it does, 303 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: But you don't go out there and start marking every 304 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: d have. Um. But I think that was the time 305 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: where it's like, okay, I'm starting to understand how to 306 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: do this and never had I never went to any camps. Um. 307 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: It was all kind of self taught, and so my 308 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: first two years were kind of a mess in the league. Uh, 309 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: just throwing out balls. I just I hadnen't to have 310 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: a strong enough leg and was consistent enough that with 311 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: Billick here he gave me the opportunity to continue to grow. 312 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: And then with Stover help helping out a lot. And 313 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: then when Jerry came showed me a new drop that 314 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: he had worked on with um. I think it was 315 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: Sassodil or Zasadil showed him and was it Richardson Ancestail. Yeah, 316 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: he came and so we worked on this new hold 317 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: that year when he came in, and it was to 318 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: drops of a day And I think that is what 319 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: took me to the next part of my career to 320 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 1: be able to be a lot more consistent. So to 321 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: go to a makes point about your you get recruited 322 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: as a linebacker. Was a linebacker slash punter or was it? 323 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: It was a punter slash linebacker. It was one of 324 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: those things that they wanted me to come in my 325 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: first year as a red shirt to work on punting. 326 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: At the end of that year, then once we started 327 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 1: spring ball for the next year, they asked me if 328 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: I wanted to go do uh linebacker do defensive drills. 329 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: And at that point, after having a year at punter, 330 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I think this is 331 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 1: probably the time that I want to just focus on punting. 332 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: And that's when I didn't. I didn't do that. I 333 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: didn't do the linebacker drills in spring ball. So it 334 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: just kind of from there started focusing on punting, which 335 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: would have been my true freshman year. Right. That's so 336 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: it's so wild, though, but you did. You also added 337 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: to that when I was talking to you about this, 338 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: that you do like chick place and stuff, not that 339 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 1: you want to hit people on the defensive side, but 340 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: now that you are a punter, you do like to 341 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: mix it up a little bit, you know, throw the ball. 342 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, I don't mind mixing it up. Yeah, 343 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: as far as the hitting part, if I got a hit, 344 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: I I have to hit. I want to stay out 345 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: of that hit. What's the biggest hit you put on 346 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: a guy on a punt return or probably a punt return, Yeah, 347 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: just gonna be a block. But I think there was. 348 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: I think I had one against San Diego that might 349 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: have been like my first few years in the league. Um, 350 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: I think that might have been the only one. Other 351 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,360 Speaker 1: than that, it's just been trying to run guys down, right, 352 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: I told I'll never forget the trend in holiday trend 353 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 1: in holiday in Denver in the playoffs, that game, Oh 354 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: my gosh, that was that dude was going off. Yeah, 355 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: he was usually he was going off. I mean I 356 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: will say that I think he ran out of gas 357 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: a little bit. He probably did. Yeah, but you did not. 358 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: I try not to. Yeah, and in the high altitude, 359 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: that's something that's true. That's a good ploy. That was fast. 360 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: That guy is ridiculously fast. Alright, So we want to 361 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: talk to you about life of Tucker as well. And 362 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: it's typically the only reason people last. We'll just we'll 363 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: start with that. We knew you were going to say that, 364 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: and thus that's why we didn't start with this. I 365 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: know we had we had a buddy up. Yeah, exactly. Alright. 366 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 1: You can't ever have a conversation without having a conversation 367 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: about talking. I mean, you get it. I mean I do. 368 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: I do. The guy deserves it personality and football wise. 369 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: But yes, we'll start with the tough questions, which the 370 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 1: topic of the week, Uh, Tucker's extra point miss and 371 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,719 Speaker 1: how he's handled it. How have you seen, as one 372 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: of the guys closest to him, how have you seen 373 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: him handle it? This week. You know, it was it 374 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 1: was a rare situation. Um, obviously, I don't think we've 375 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: ever been in that situation, you know, where he missed 376 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: the game winner to my knowledge. Um, but it's one 377 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: of those things that could come out the next day 378 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: and we just act like nothing's happened. Um, it's one 379 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: of those things that we looked at on film. What 380 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: did he do? What did he see? And I'm sure 381 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: he you know, probably diagnosed that, but at this point 382 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: he's he's moved on. Um, that's why he is, you know, 383 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: one of the greatest kickers so far in his career 384 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: to ever play. And we just move on and treated 385 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: as if it was just you know, it was a fluke. 386 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: And you know, we had there was a lot of 387 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: wind down there on that end at that particular time. 388 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: That might have been more of an upper wind and 389 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, but well there wasn't a whole 390 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: lot of wind on the field per se where they did. Yeah, 391 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: and the flags down there on the field can be 392 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: somewhat deceiving. Sometimes you'll feel wind and the flags aren't 393 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: doing anything. Other times those things are blowing straight sideways 394 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: and you're not feeling anything On the particular field. So 395 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: it's just the way it swirls, especially down on that end. 396 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: That end seems to be more so than the other end. Um, 397 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: So what's an upper wind? Well, like at times you'll 398 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: have just different varyings of winds, Like if um, if 399 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: I'm punning into the wind, if I keep it low, 400 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: especially if we're going towards like the tunnel area, if 401 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: I keep it low, it might just keep on going. 402 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: Once I get it up to a certain height, that 403 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 1: might just get hung up and then it might hit 404 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,479 Speaker 1: it and stop it. And so like do you have 405 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 1: other stadiums like Miami was usually notorious for that. If 406 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: you got it up and over that it would float 407 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: down the field quite a ways. But if you got 408 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: it up to a certain height, then it just kind 409 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: of crushes it. So there is that. But in that case, 410 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 1: you know, it was one of those things, just a 411 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: rare anomally and Tucker knows that and just kind of 412 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: move on and go about our business. So on the wind, 413 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: I've watched the play like a whole bunch of times. 414 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: Do you think that the wind caught it or was 415 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 1: it just a slice? Like because I've I've trying to 416 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: figure that out because it first starts out like it 417 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: looks like it's going straight and then like you can 418 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: make the case that maybe the wind caught it. But 419 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: I'm also like, I've seen that shot off the golf 420 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: tea when I'm hitting it, and that looks like one 421 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: of my shots off the golf tea where you just slice, 422 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: you know, So like, what do you think it was? 423 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: It's hard. It's hard to say because you're you're not 424 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: up there with the ball. But Tucker, I mean, other 425 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: than on his kickoffs, you don't usually don't have a 426 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: ball that comes off Tucker's foot like that. And so 427 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: that's where it's, like I say, an anomaly. You just 428 00:22:58,240 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: you just have to chalk it up to an anomaly 429 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: because it's one of those things that I've never really 430 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: seen a ball come off his foot and move that hard. 431 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: So whether it be the wind or maybe put a 432 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: little bit more into it, we don't, I don't know. 433 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: And yeah, can I give you my theory on it? 434 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: You should see I wish can I played soccer? But 435 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: the bench on now, oy, this is it? All right? 436 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 1: My theory, My theory is that the wind was a 437 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: problem down to that end all game long, and everybody 438 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: knew it kickers on both sides. Everybody know it, right. 439 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: Tucker knew that as well obviously, So I think that 440 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: he got to a place where he's like, this is 441 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: an extra point and if I just freaking ripped this 442 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: ball right now, it will cut through the wind and 443 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: I won't have a problem like I can just I 444 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: can just hit this ball as if I hit it 445 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: as hard as I can, it will not what the 446 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: wind is doing. And I think that maybe he put 447 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: a little bit more into it than he would normally 448 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: on an extra point and that created the slice that 449 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: he didn't hit it like he normally would. Yeah, that's 450 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: my theory. I mean, I guess that's a good hypothesis. 451 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: I mean, as far as I don't know looking at it, 452 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: looking at his form, it didn't it would seem like 453 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: a really good swing. Um. And yeah, I just like 454 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: if we go out of practice and you know, we've 455 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: been here seven years now together and like I said, 456 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: you just you don't have balls that do that. So 457 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: it's a weird one. It is. So as he told 458 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: his first joke, since is he like back to the 459 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: same Tucker. That's the great thing about Tucker you know, 460 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: and I wish I had some of his personality in 461 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: that sense. Um, but you know, I think it was 462 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 1: just right after the game he understood that It's one 463 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 1: of those things. He was mad about it, but we've 464 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 1: got to move on and Tucker is a himself and 465 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: it never changes. Well, that's that's kind of like what 466 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 1: I'm curious about is I feel like, more than any 467 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: other position, people look at a kicker, and if kicker 468 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: has a miss, the question is like, how does he 469 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: mentally handle it? More so than like like a couple 470 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: of weeks ago in Crabtree had the drops, people weren't 471 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: necessarily thinking like can he mentally overcome that? But with 472 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: a Kicker, that's like the first topic of conversation, like 473 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: mentally can you withstand that? Why do you think that is? 474 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: And why do you think that that? What makes Tucker 475 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: different that he that's not an issue for him? Well, 476 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 1: I think his personality and the way he approaches it 477 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 1: is definitely not not going to be an issue. I mean, 478 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: he's had a couple of misses in the past and 479 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: he's always rebounded from him. Um, he's got a good 480 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: core where we know as collectively that we have his 481 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: back and he's going to go out there and do 482 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: what he does every Sunday. Um. But yeah, you're right, 483 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: I think. Um. As far as the mental aspect, I 484 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 1: think the other thing is when it comes to kickers, 485 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: and you've seen kickers and punters and snappers struggle in 486 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 1: that sense, is that you may only have four opportunities 487 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: in a game, and whereas maybe a receiver, granted they 488 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: get catches, but they might have a lot more throne 489 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 1: throne to you know, and have a lot more opportunity targets. Yeah, 490 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: and they're running a ton of routes, dozens of routes 491 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: correct and um, so you're sitting there and especially on 492 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 1: a field goal, maybe you don't even have your first 493 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,959 Speaker 1: one until the second half. You know, you just never know. 494 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,479 Speaker 1: So it's one of those things just letting it go, 495 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: focusing on the fundamentals that you have practiced year and 496 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: year out and go out there and execute the way 497 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: you know how to every every game. I think it's 498 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: interesting too about you is like you've seen it. I mean, 499 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: you were on the field for the championship with Billy's miss, 500 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: and I mean I would argue that that affected Billy 501 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: even the following off season. Now, he still had a 502 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: good training camp. Tucker just beat him out. But like 503 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 1: I kind of think the way that like Billy handled 504 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: that and handled that competition was affected by that, you 505 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like it changed who he was 506 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,959 Speaker 1: as a kicker. I think, Uh, do you think that 507 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: was the case with him or I mean I guess 508 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to dive too much into Billy, but 509 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: like you do you do agree that like kicks can 510 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: change people. Yeah, Tucker's kick isn't like the championship all right, 511 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: that one was was unique? Yeah, yeah, I mean they 512 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: all have their unique perspectives as far as each kick. Um. 513 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 1: I know when the next offseason, when Tucker first came 514 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: in and Billy came in, I mean that was a great, 515 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 1: uh training camp for both kickers. Yeah, the competition and 516 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: you know, you had a guy like Tucker that was 517 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: just he was unproven at that point other than what 518 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 1: he had done in Texas, and he was able to 519 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: hang with Billy and did a phenomenal job. And at 520 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: the end of the day, I think, you know, that's 521 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: kind of what really wanted him. The job was just 522 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: as a ability to go out there and make kicks 523 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: after kick during practice. Um, but yeah, I would I 524 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 1: would agree as far as it probably had some effect 525 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: on him. I mean, it was our opportunity to go 526 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: to the super Bowl that year, and you know, things happen, 527 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: you know, and things were meant to be, and that's 528 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: why we went the next year, you know. So I 529 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: just it's over with. I'm a big advocate that passes 530 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: in the past and just kind of move on and 531 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: move on to the next You have to ring the 532 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: next year. So so so I'm curious, like you, the 533 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: three of you got, are you, Morgan and Tucker the 534 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: longest tenured group in the league? I believe we are 535 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: second actually you know what that we might be because 536 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: it's rare that really to have any position group stick 537 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: together as long as you guys have. I mean, that 538 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: doesn't happen very often. And I think that that probably 539 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: is a big part of this the continuity. Do you 540 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,479 Speaker 1: buy into the notion that the continuity that's what I 541 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,719 Speaker 1: think as far as like hunters and kickers and snappers, like, 542 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,479 Speaker 1: if you don't give a guy a time to just 543 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: get connected with the group and kind of get comfortable 544 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: with you know what, where it starts from with Morgan 545 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: snaps and where he snaps it to my holds to 546 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: the kicker feeling confident. You know, it's kind of tough 547 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: when you bring in new holders and new snappers and 548 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: everything changes and timing changes. It's got to be difficult 549 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: for kickers to be able to adjust to that. Do 550 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: you think that your guys, basically the familiarity with each 551 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: other has allowed some of these other guys that come 552 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: in here have success and then go elsewhere, like will 553 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: What's or like Vedvic looked like he was going to 554 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: be somebody that would probably get picked up before what 555 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,239 Speaker 1: happened to him. And I feel like part of it 556 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: probably is the fact that, like all of you guys 557 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: are securing your positions and you feel good about that, 558 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: and so you're kind of willing to take somebody on 559 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: and show them the ropes. Well, I think it's one 560 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: of those things that whether or not, you know, it's 561 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: ultimate discretion of the team, whether or not you have 562 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: a job. You know, you go out there and you 563 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: perform each and every week and you hope that that 564 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: shows him. But as far as when it comes to 565 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: new guys coming in, I take pride in the fact 566 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: that I don't want to treat him like an asshole, 567 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: you know, if we can say that on here. I 568 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: don't want to be that guy that just treats him 569 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: like crap, you know. I want to treat him like 570 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: if he was my son and I was out there 571 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: teaching him, and I want to show him how to 572 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: do that. You know, granted would have you know, is 573 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: there a possibility I could teach myself out of a job? 574 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: I guess there's that case, and that in that case, 575 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: then I did a pretty darn jomp. You know. The 576 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: other thing is you have Jerry out there that works 577 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: with these you know, they bring him in for a 578 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: reason because they don't want him to be just any 579 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: person off the street. They want to find somebody that 580 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: has the potential to come in here and be a 581 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: punter or be a kicker or long snapper. And when 582 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: they come in here, we take pride in the fact 583 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: that we go out there and and show them the 584 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: stuff that we do to allow us to be consistent 585 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: day in, day out, and whether or not they end 586 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: up here or whether they end up somewhere else, we 587 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: take pride in seeing them out there and and keep 588 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: on coaching them throughout their career. It's cool give us 589 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: the status update on the wolf pack, because I feel 590 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: like we don't hear the wolf pack, like the term 591 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: thrown around much anymore, because I feel like the nature 592 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: of the wolf pack has changed with the arrival of children. 593 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: For Tucker and Morian, we've had kids. You know, the 594 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: kids are grown up, they are so I mean, how 595 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: much is the wolf fact change, I guess is a 596 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: question with the arrival of children. Other than saying, I 597 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: mean you've got a lot of wolf packs, or you've 598 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: got a lot of cubs, or what ye tuck a 599 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: little wolf pack at home? I don't It's an interesting question, 600 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: but um, yeah, describe all right, we'll leave well id 601 00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: with this. Give us a synopsis of the differing person 602 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: analities within the wolf pack, each of you. That means 603 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: you have to give one on yourself, you know, the 604 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: personality of the wolf Pack of each member to give 605 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: people in needsight, we'll considering we know where this question goes. Yeah, 606 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: it has to you know what, Well, you know Tucker's personality. 607 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: He's the one that kind of he he provides a 608 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: comedic relief. He has his his antics, um hand hint, 609 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: you know which yesterday. That's the whole point of the 610 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: hind him. But aside from that, now, Um, the reason 611 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: we love Tucker is because you know, with Morgan being 612 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: he's considered the old man of the group. But you're 613 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: older than Morgan. Morgan is the old man. So he's 614 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: been called the old man since he was in in Tennessee, 615 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: I think, so he's always been referred to as that. 616 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: He is like the grandpa the group always keeps us 617 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: in check, um. Tucker the comedic relief and you know, 618 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: everything that we need in order for us to go 619 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: out there to be ourselves. He keeps us that day 620 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: there and then I am more of the I'm like 621 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: that strict dad. I try to keep us, make sure 622 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: we're all staying accountable. We're focusing on what we need 623 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: to do, um, but at the end of the day, 624 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: allow us to have some fun, you know. So that's 625 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: what I would say. You're the dad and Morgans the grandpas. 626 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: The grandpa. I can't wait to tell Morgan he's well aware. Cool. Well, 627 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: thank you, Sam, really appreciate it. Thanks for your patients 628 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: in uh, you know, getting to the Tucker questions. You're welcome. 629 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: Thanks alright, really good stuff from Sam. He's a really 630 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: interesting guy him. I like saying a lot. Yeah, he's 631 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: a funny dude. Um, And like we said at the 632 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: start of this podcast, we both think that Justin Tucker 633 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: is going to be just fine. Do you think I 634 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: do you think by saying his reaction that I nailed 635 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: my hypothesis on the miss I think that is pretty 636 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 1: good hypothesis. Yeah, I think it's pretty good. He seemed 637 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: he I mean he said it was a good hypothesis. Yeah. 638 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: I think he just blasted the heck out of that ball. 639 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:25,879 Speaker 1: Just blast. It's the end of the game. You say, 640 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave it, gonna leave no doubt here, just 641 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: bang it through that. It's just like he's like, there's 642 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: a window. Yeah, I'm just gonna go out there and 643 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: just crush it to the next point. As long as 644 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,399 Speaker 1: I crush it and hit it straight, it's gonna go through. 645 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: And yeah, over kicked it. I mean, same kind offers 646 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: that he's like maybe it was a little yeah, and 647 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: there's probably some wind in there too, but all that 648 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: probably combined. So yeah, anyway, we'll move on too, and 649 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: moving on and if if there is a situation at 650 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: the end of Sunday's game because the Carolina Panthers and 651 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: it's a one score game and it's a fifty yard 652 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: field goal. Oh, that's gonna happen. I have no concerns 653 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: about sending Justin Tucker out there for that kick, and 654 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 1: I and I would bet that he comes through in 655 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 1: a big way. Maybe I hope that he gets that 656 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: redemption chance as soon as this Sunday. Maybe this is 657 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: just the journalist in me and I like the story 658 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 1: for stories. Yeah, but I think that Justin Tucker wins 659 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,399 Speaker 1: this game. I'm not saying that it's like with five 660 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,399 Speaker 1: seconds left or whatever, but I think that a late 661 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: Justin Tucker field goal is the difference. Nice. I like that. 662 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: In fact, part of the also thinks we all even 663 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: blow them out. Oh I kind of. I kind of 664 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: think this might be it. Uh, just just go out 665 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 1: there way by two touchdowns, three touchdowns? Do interesting to do? 666 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: Actually hear me one of the other or or can 667 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: be lost coast lost. This is a win. This is 668 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 1: a oh no, wait, somebody emailed and said I'm not 669 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: allowed to do that, or they hit me up on 670 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: Twitter and said I'm not allowed to do the big 671 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: win okay, all right, so I'm bad. I'm off. This 672 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: is a big, big winn against Carolina Panthers on Sue, 673 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: so creepy big. Thanks for listening. To talk to you 674 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: guys next week. M