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Speaker 1: This the One Bills Live presented by Callida Health.

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Speaker 2: Back in the Saddle. Welcome back. It's Chris Brown's team

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Speaker 2: Taster with you here on One Bill's Live. I guess

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Speaker 2: I'm well. I guess I'm well being welcoming us back,

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Speaker 2: are our listening audience. They are going anywhere they I mean,

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Speaker 2: unless they went on a maybe they went on a

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Speaker 1: Left. They've met all left and said they're not on

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, if Western New York looks anything like this building,

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Speaker 2: I mean it is still vacant.

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Speaker 1: It is pill It goes.

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Speaker 2: Down here because people are getting their last bits of

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Speaker 3: They're doing some stuff around the field house here too.

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Speaker 3: They're sprucing it up a little bit here and there.

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Speaker 3: They do that because the place is, like we said, empty,

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Speaker 3: and so we're just in that last little before we

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Speaker 2: Speaking of that, though, Steve and I are sitting at

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Speaker 2: our desks today, it's about an hour ago, and all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden there's this rumble like earthquake like, but

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Speaker 2: very sudden and very short, very big. Yes and Steve

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Speaker 2: gives me this look like, what in the heck was that?

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Speaker 2: And fortunately my short term memory is good enough where

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Speaker 2: going to be doing blasting across the street to break

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Speaker 2: thirty four feet into the earth. The High Mark Stadium's

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Speaker 2: like double that, sixty four feet down. This is only

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Speaker 2: gonna be half of that to build all the concrete

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Speaker 2: foundation necessary to support the structure, et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: So they're blasting to speed up the process. Now Steve

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Speaker 2: and I are both off last week the show Goes Dark,

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Speaker 2: we weren't here. We didn't hear any blasting of any kind,

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Speaker 2: it was a blast. We are running out here to

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Speaker 3: Right, run around, looking through the fence, right and sure enough,

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Speaker 3: big cloud, big cloud of smoke over there.

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Speaker 1: They it was sure they were blasting.

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Speaker 2: They're dropping on the dynamite.

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Speaker 1: I gotta say, we'll be in that building before you

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Speaker 2: Three years is before you know it, right I I

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Speaker 2: I was just thinking to myself driving out here today.

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Speaker 2: You know, I hadn't been down Abbit Road in two

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Speaker 1: Like a strip mine over there. It's so big. Worry.

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Speaker 1: I mean it is huge there. You got a hole dug.

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Speaker 1: It's vast.

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Speaker 1: It looks vast, and it's I'm looking down and goes,

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Speaker 1: Sure not. There's little you know, it looks it. It

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Speaker 2: But if you drive down Abbot Road while there is

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Speaker 1: And it is. It's massive. It's big.

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Speaker 3: It's like the guy's gonna go out there with a

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Speaker 1: Around real slowly. He might have to blast here, might

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Speaker 2: Steve has turned geology into a fictitious discipline, or by

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Speaker 3: Poke hocus pocus, and that's only because I don't understand it,

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Speaker 1: Of what goes on in my world. I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 3: Could you imagine our response if if you and I

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Speaker 1: Get out of it? Out? Yeah, go back to your hole.

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Speaker 2: I would fully expect it.

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Speaker 1: Crawl back under the rock that you do your show from.

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Speaker 2: In case you're wondering, Bill's training camp begins, or maybe

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Speaker 2: and it's not really on your radar yet. Bill's training

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Speaker 2: camp will begin on Wednesday, July twenty sixth. That's Saint

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Speaker 2: John two weeks from Wednesday, the first day of practice.

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Speaker 2: Rookies they actually have to Yeah, rookies have to report

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but they'll be here.

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Speaker 2: They will be here first, yes, you are right about.

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Speaker 3: And then the twenty fifth veterans report, which means over

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Speaker 3: at Saint John Fisher on that Tues drive a week

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Speaker 3: And then the next day it's game on bro and

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Speaker 3: that's you know, you can imagine people out there listening.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we eagerly await that. And we'll get to

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Speaker 2: our topic of discussion, which has something to do with

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Speaker 2: We'll let you know what that is very shortly. But

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Speaker 2: it's time for us to go around the NFL. Brought

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Speaker 2: to you by Kalida Health, the official health care provider

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Speaker 2: of the Buffalo Bills, and we begin with one. Denver

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Speaker 2: running back Javonte Williams, who missed just about all the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two season with a torn ACL says he's

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Speaker 2: to tell you, Steve, the Broncos better hope. So I

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Speaker 2: took a look at their depth chart the other day.

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Speaker 2: All they've got behind him is samaj p Rhin, who

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Speaker 2: There's just some unproven other guys behind those two on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I get it too, it's a passing league.

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Speaker 3: But still, I mean, even the Bills went out and

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Speaker 3: trade for a last year nah bringing him in. They

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be crazy. So we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 3: But it's I just don't see it too many teams

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Speaker 3: I don't want to I don't want to belittle the position,

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Speaker 3: but we've there's been a lot of media attention to

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Speaker 2: Right At the same time, though, knowing knowing the proliferation

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Speaker 2: to know a lot of players aren't quite right. That

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Speaker 2: he went a full calendar year. Javonte Williams will be

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Speaker 2: I mean more than half the league his committee backfields.

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Speaker 3: So both of them are gonna play somewhere. You just

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Speaker 2: No word as to whether Tristan Wurfs has a copy

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Speaker 3: For a couple of years now. I've been saying it,

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Speaker 1: It's perfect.

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Speaker 3: It's absolutely perfect. The NFL season should start exactly when

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Speaker 3: You got training camp, you got two regular season games,

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Speaker 2: Got to get somebody on the horn. Maybe get Troy

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because if you add an extra another regular season game,

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Speaker 3: Still twenty total games, just one more from counts. And

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Speaker 1: I amaze myself. I am equally amazed.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you're probably amazed at my ability to be amazed

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Speaker 3: nobody it really is. It's the ugly truth. The ugly

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Speaker 3: truth is you don't know who's going to win the

440
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Speaker 3: Super Bowl this year. The Bills have got a shot

441
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Speaker 3: at it. The Bengals got a shot at it, the

442
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 3: Chiefs got a shot at the Eagles got a shot

443
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Speaker 3: to get back there, the Niners got a shot at it.

444
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Speaker 3: Everybody else is kind of like really big question marks

445
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Speaker 3: that they got to They may catch lightning in a bottle,

446
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,119
Speaker 3: but those are the teams, you know. You know what

447
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 3: Baltimore comes back with Deshaun Healthy or I'm sorry, Lamar Healthy.

448
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 3: All of this stuff needs you don't know, but you

449
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Speaker 3: know there's a handful of teams that are good enough

450
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Speaker 3: to get there. Any One of those teams have got

451
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Speaker 3: a legit shot to get there because they're good enough,

452
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Speaker 3: and they have been good enough, and they're going to

453
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Speaker 3: be good enough if they stay healthy. To say the

454
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Speaker 3: Rams did it and that's the way you got it.

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Speaker 1: That's that's bunk. That's not true.

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Speaker 3: Just because it worked for the Rams doesn't mean it'll

457
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Speaker 3: work for everybody else it. You know, the Saints have

458
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Speaker 3: tried to do that. Now they won one early on,

459
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Speaker 3: but it was early in their process, and now they're stuck.

460
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Speaker 3: They're still stuck. They can't get they can't make it happen.

461
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Speaker 3: And the simple fact of the matter is all you

462
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Speaker 3: got to do to win the Super Bowl is be

463
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Speaker 3: good enough to get in the playoffs and play well

464
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Speaker 3: on the day your season's on the line. You don't

465
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Speaker 3: have to play well, just play better than those guys

466
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Speaker 3: over there. You just got to play better than those

467
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Speaker 3: guys on that day and do it three weeks in

468
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Speaker 3: a row or four weeks if you're a wildcard, and

469
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Speaker 3: just do That's how you got to do it.

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Speaker 2: But I think this is one of the main reasons

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Speaker 2: why we see Brandon Bean take on the approach of

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Speaker 2: staying cap strong perennially, so the Steam the team still

473
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Speaker 2: has the ability to contend each year, rather than run

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Speaker 2: at it one year and hope they cash in. You

475
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Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like that's essentially what the Rams did.

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Speaker 2: It worked, and that's great for them. They got a

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Speaker 2: title out of it, but they're not reaping any benefits

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Speaker 2: now right. I mean now they're like, oh.

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Speaker 1: Man, and you can get it.

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Speaker 2: Think about it, Steve. I mean it's Matthew Stafford, Cooper Cup,

481
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Speaker 2: Aaron Donald and a bunch of guys. Yeah, if you

482
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Speaker 2: Von Miller, there's no Leonard Floyd.

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Speaker 1: Then there's no guarantees. And I get it.

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Speaker 3: If you and a lot of people would sign up

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Speaker 3: for it, probably a lot of people would sign up

486
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Speaker 3: for Listen, you give me one and I'll give you

487
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Speaker 3: however long you go, you know whatever, two years, five years,

488
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 3: ten years, twenty years without winning another one, or we're

489
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Speaker 3: not having a chance to win another one.

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Speaker 1: Just give me one. There's a lot of people who

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Speaker 1: sign up for that. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, not unfortunately, But the way it really works is

493
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Speaker 3: you got a group here in Buffalo. They're gonna take

494
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Speaker 3: a swing at it every single year as long as

495
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 3: they got seventeen taken snaps. They're gonna put guys around

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Speaker 3: him to get in the mix and have a shot

497
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Speaker 3: at it every single year, and they're gonna they're gonna

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Speaker 3: be competitive every year and and get if they get one,

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Speaker 3: they may get two, they may get more.

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Speaker 1: That kind of thing. That's where they're at.

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Speaker 3: And you can say, until they win one, that's always

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Speaker 3: gonna be the knock on them. This is the same

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Speaker 3: knock that the teams that I was on. Right, I

504
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Speaker 3: can say whatever I want as an old guy and

505
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Speaker 3: all that, and that Bay always comes back with you

506
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,199
Speaker 3: never won one, right, And I get that at But

507
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 3: the simple fact of matters, the truth of it is

508
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 3: they're good enough, and they have been good enough. They

509
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Speaker 3: just got to get there. Last year they were they sabotaged.

510
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Speaker 3: They they got the end of the season. They had

511
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Speaker 3: nothing left to give there. They were wrung out by

512
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Speaker 3: injuries and the and the emotions of the season and

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Speaker 3: the tragedies that the city and the and the weather

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Speaker 3: that the city endured and all the stuff that they

515
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Speaker 3: went through. And yahd YadA, YadA YadA on down the

516
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 3: line the teammates, teammates death and coming back and being resuscitated,

517
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Speaker 3: the brother of a team, of a member of your

518
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 3: team died, passed away, you know, stuff like you know,

519
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 3: some big stuff is so. And then not to mention

520
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Speaker 3: they had four star players on their defense out in

521
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Speaker 3: the playoffs. I mean, yeah, injuries are one thing. You know,

522
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 3: everybody gets injuries, but man, oh man, so injuries plus

523
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Speaker 3: all the other stuff. You know, last year was not

524
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Speaker 3: their year, even when it looked at this time last

525
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 3: year it looked like it was going to be. So

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Speaker 3: we'll see. But you can't get caught up in the

527
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 3: recency bias and the instant gratification that the culture is

528
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 3: preaching to you right now. You gotta be there, give

529
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 3: yourself a chance every single year, and you'll see it

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00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 3: happen once in a while, like last year with Philly.

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Speaker 3: I mean they were good and thought, okay, we'll see

532
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Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts, I don't know, we'll see about if that

533
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 3: team's good enough. You got to know you are too.

534
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,959
Speaker 3: You gotta know it. You gotta know it with all

535
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Speaker 3: the question marks they had going into now, certainly they

536
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 3: got a great roster and around it, but they didn't

537
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Speaker 3: know anything about their quarterback. You just got to be

538
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Speaker 3: confident that you're gonna be in the conversation and as

539
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Speaker 3: long as you can, if you can stay healthy, Oh

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Speaker 3: my goodness, gracious, you know this team, it's we've been

541
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Speaker 3: there We've been there, and I think they're gonna get

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00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 3: there again, and we'll see.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of conversation, we have a topic of conversation for

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Speaker 2: you today. To get on board at eight o three

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Speaker 2: oh five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two,

546
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Speaker 2: five fifty. Who is the most important Bill's defensive player

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Speaker 2: for the twenty twenty three season. I think there are

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00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 2: a lot of options here, quite frankly, that you can

549
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 2: make a good argument for for a number of different reasons.

550
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 2: So you tell us who is the most important Bill's

551
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 2: defensive player for the twenty twenty three season on the

552
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Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball we're talking today. We want

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Speaker 2: your comments on that very subject. Open lines for you

554
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 2: at eight oh three oh five fifty one eight eight

555
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Speaker 2: eight five fifty two, five fifty the numbers to get

556
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Speaker 2: on board. Otherwise you can hit us up on the

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00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 2: tweet sheet at one Bills Live. Does a number? Does

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Speaker 2: a name Steve jump out to you any like, Oh man.

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00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: This guy's better lighted up this way? Well here's the thing.

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00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 2: Uh, if this defense is gonna do what we think.

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Speaker 3: There's a couple of ways you can look at it.

562
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 3: One is, is there a guy you got to depend

563
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 3: on to be good, and there's always guys like that.

564
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 3: But I think there's certain guys you know, we're gonna

565
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 3: show you know exactly what you're getting, particularly with the

566
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Speaker 3: veterans like I think Tredaevius White Hiding Poyer, Taron Johnson.

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00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 3: You know, I think the key guy might be Kyer

568
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 3: Elam or Christian.

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Speaker 1: Benford, whoever.

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00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 2: The second corner.

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00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 3: The second corner is if you can get a guy

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00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 3: in there that all absolutely locks it down. If kyr

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00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 3: Elam lives up to his physical gifts and his work ethic,

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00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 3: and if he starts to click for him, this defense

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00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 3: becomes exponentially better, exponentially better, because all of a sudden,

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00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 3: now you got two corners on the outside with and

577
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 3: von Miller and the you know, von Miller, Leonard Floyd

578
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 3: and Rousseau. Uh, you're looking pretty good along and with

579
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 3: Milana as well. You've got a group of guys that

580
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 3: can really go if Elom takes a step forward and

581
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 3: becomes the kind of player that we think he has

582
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 3: the potential to be. Man oh man, I I think

583
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 3: that two lockdown corners because I yes, because having said that,

584
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 3: I take it for granted that we've seen we've seen

585
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 3: tradevious out here and he looks like to Tradevius from

586
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 3: two years. It looks like he looks he looks stellar.

587
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 3: I mean, he's back to his old personality. He's happy,

588
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 3: he's laughing and joking around. He's you know, he's every

589
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 3: time you see him, he's in a full sweat. I mean,

590
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 3: the guy's working hard in OTAs in the mini camp practices.

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00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 3: He is one hundred percent all the time and you

592
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 3: can tell. So you kind of take that and I

593
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 3: said it to side. He's there, So it becomes something

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00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 3: that may be additional to the defense that they haven't

595
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 3: had in the past. And I think it might be

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00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 3: Kye Christian Benford certainly came in and played well last

597
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 3: year and made his mark.

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Speaker 1: I think Kyrie.

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Speaker 3: Elam might be a guy who who could be one

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Speaker 3: of those pieces.

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Speaker 2: That put the defense over the time.

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Speaker 3: Yes, when he when you put him in place in

603
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 3: that puzzle, all of a sudden you see the whole

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Speaker 3: picture and it's and I think, wow, really good, a.

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Speaker 2: Good case made there by Steve. We have to take

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Speaker 2: a break, but when we come back, it's your phone

607
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 2: calls coming up. PTO in Lakawana will lead us off,

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Speaker 2: but we have open lines for you at eight h

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Speaker 2: three oh five fifty one eight eight eight five point

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Speaker 2: fifty two five fifty the number to get on board.

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Speaker 2: Who do you believe is the most important Bill's defensive

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Speaker 2: player for the twenty twenty three season? Your phone call's next.

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Speaker 2: Here on One Bill's Live, presented by Colida Health, It's

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome back to One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve tasking with you on a Monday, as

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Speaker 2: we're just over two weeks away from the first practice

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Speaker 2: of training cam getting pretty exciting, getting pretty pumped. But

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Speaker 2: let's get to the phones. As we are asking you

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Speaker 2: today who's the most important Bill's defensive player for this

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three season? Coming up? We go to the phones,

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Speaker 2: and as pro must, we lead off with PTO and

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Speaker 2: lack of WANTA.

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Speaker 5: What do you got?

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00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: PTO?

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00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 7: I'm right here?

626
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 6: What's up with you?

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Speaker 7: Guys?

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I heard I was talking about that the salary

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Speaker 7: cap there, i'mother comment on that, ohad, Yeah, you know,

631
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Speaker 7: and my let's go to State Warriors. They always go

632
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 7: over the salary cap. They win championships. I think if

633
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 7: the Bills don't go the teams in the AFC that

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00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 7: may go the Jeffs got Rogers, Miami got Jamien Ramsey.

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00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 7: We gotta make a move.

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Speaker 1: Were trying to get us a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 7: I'm thinking most sports, go ahead, go ahead, and most sports.

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Speaker 1: To win your championship, it seems to me you have

639
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Speaker 1: to go over to salary cap.

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Speaker 7: And why the Bills ain't really ain't ready to do

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Speaker 7: that just a little bit.

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Speaker 8: I ain't stilling getting to no big.

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Speaker 7: Well a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing, Pet, and here's one of the problems.

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Speaker 3: And not to discredit you.

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00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: You're right.

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00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 3: You got to spend money to win, no question about it.

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00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 3: But here's the thing. The Bills are number two in

649
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 3: the league and cash out this year. They're number two

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Speaker 3: in the league, so they're doing it. They've got more

651
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 3: cash on the table this year. Now it doesn't all

652
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 3: count against the cap, but they spend as much money

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Speaker 3: as any team in the league this year. So they're

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Speaker 3: doing that. The question is can they structure it within

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Speaker 3: the rules of the salary cap to do it year

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Speaker 3: after year after year after year. Now they're gonna be

657
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 3: pretty good this next year. Although they got a ton

658
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 3: of guys who are gonna be out of contract. So

659
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 3: a lot of this money that they're paying this year

660
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 3: is coming off the books after the season's over because

661
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 3: they got a lot of one year contracts, got some

662
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 3: guys coming off the end of their contracts, all of

663
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: So all that's happening. But the Bills are spending money.

665
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Speaker 3: They're spending money like nobody's been and there, like I said,

666
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 3: I think there's only one team in the league that

667
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 3: has more cash out this year than the Bills. So

668
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 3: the misnomer that the Bills don't spend to do it

669
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 3: or don't make any moves, don't believe it. Leonard Floyd

670
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 3: is a great get for them, a great get. Dalton

671
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 3: kin Kaid is a great get for them, and he's

672
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 3: a draft pick, no question. But still don't think and

673
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 3: Jayleen Ramsey going to the Miami Dolphins, that's fine. The

674
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 3: Dolphins have been boasting really two good corners for a

675
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 3: long time. They really feel like that's the thing. It

676
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 3: doesn't help him against our guys. Two corners ain't gonna

677
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 3: get it done against the Bills. So you're you know,

678
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 3: the Bill's got three, four, maybe five, five all the

679
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 3: way down to Dane Jackson, Christian Benford, Kyer Elam, Tredavius White,

680
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 3: and Tarren Johnson. They've all got a lot of reps,

681
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 3: especially with Kyrie Elam and Benford coming back now this year.

682
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 3: So you can say what you want about Jalen Ramsey's

683
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 3: of the world and Aaron Rodgers. Certainly that's a big

684
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 3: move for the Jets and it may help them.

685
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Speaker 2: It should it better.

686
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 3: It can't help but help them, But they got a

687
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 3: long way to go to catch this wreckon crew at

688
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 3: one Bill's Drive. They because this team is better at

689
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 3: of the twenty two starting positions. They're better at twenty

690
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 3: one of them than they were a year ago. If

691
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 3: you count Josh Allen getting better after a year. The

692
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 3: only one you can make a case for is maybe

693
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Speaker 3: Tremaine Edmonds.

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Speaker 1: Yep, and you can.

695
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 2: We'll do and that's a question mark.

696
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 3: And we'll decide. We'll decide if there's a drop off

697
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 3: between Tremaine Edmonds and Dodson or Specter or a Bernard

698
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 3: or whoever. We'll see what that drop off is.

699
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Speaker 1: But that's it.

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00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 3: Twenty one other spots they got better and and like

701
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 3: you said, to your point, they paid money to do it.

702
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go back to the phones and see who

703
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Speaker 2: you think is the most important Bills defensive player for

704
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty three season. To Tom in Youngstown. Next

705
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 2: we got first. Tom.

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00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 6: Hey, guys, I'm gonna excuse me. I think the question

707
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 6: is who could the Bills afford to lose the least

708
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 6: on the defense, And to me, there's no doubt it's

709
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Speaker 6: Matt Mlano. With Edmund's gone and the way Milano plays,

710
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Speaker 6: I think he's the most important guy because he's the

711
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 6: guy we could at least afford to lose.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean to look at it.

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00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that argument. Tom. He was a name

714
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 2: that came to mind for me, not only because of

715
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 2: his own playmaking ability, but because of the way that

716
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 2: whoever the starting middle linebacker is is going to have

717
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 2: to kind of come along and grow into that role

718
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 2: and may need some extra support from Milano at that

719
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 2: second level in terms of pre snap checks getting everybody

720
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 2: lined up, at least in the early going, because the

721
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 2: general consensus is that whoever the starting middle linebacker is

722
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 2: going to be a young player. Because right now, I

723
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 2: think as much respect as I and a lot of

724
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 2: people have for Aj Klein's abilities. I think for the

725
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 2: most part, he's an insurance policy in case none of

726
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 2: these young guys shows the metal to handle all the

727
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 2: responsibilities of the starting middle linebacker position at Sean mcdermot's defense.

728
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 2: So just putting him on the side for now, Terrell Bernard,

729
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 2: Tyrrel Dotson, Baylen spector Dorian Williams the rookie out of

730
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 2: that pool. No one is proven as a starting caliber

731
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:35,240
Speaker 2: player in this league. So yes, because of Milano's playmaking ability,

732
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 2: he's important. But because of that guy having to get

733
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 2: his feet under him and settled into the role at

734
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 2: the same level of defense where Milano plays, I think

735
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 2: makes Milano's presence and play important as well.

736
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 3: And we always you know here, people who listen to

737
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 3: this show know I'm mister, I'm Polly positive over here, right,

738
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 3: I see things good.

739
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 1: And here's the thing.

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Speaker 3: It was hard for anybody to get on the field

741
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 3: for us to evaluate how good they could possibly be.

742
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 3: The only time Dotson ever saw the fields when Tremaine,

743
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 3: when the game we were up, you know, thirty two points.

744
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 3: You know it's it's thirty one to ten. In the

745
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 3: opening weekend of the season against the Rams and you know,

746
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 3: now these other guys are playing and Tremain's off the field.

747
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 3: Nobody was playing ahead of Tremaine Edmonds. Nobody was getting

748
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 3: any meaningful snaps in the five years he was here

749
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 3: with the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: Nobody didn't miss too many games.

751
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 3: So we don't know what Dots could do in a game,

752
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 3: you know, in a month of playing right crunch time.

753
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 2: We don't know what games on the line.

754
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: We don't know what Bernard can do.

755
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 3: We don't know what Baylen spectrac and none of these

756
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 3: guys was ever gonna get on the field as a

757
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 3: middle linebacker, you know, as the mike linebacker and the

758
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 3: Bills defense when Tremaine Edmonds was on the field or

759
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 3: even on the practice.

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Speaker 1: Field, we don't know.

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00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 3: So if you look at it like that, we may

762
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 3: have a guy that one of these guys could really

763
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 3: be a really good player and we don't even know

764
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 3: it because there's no way we're gonna find out until

765
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 3: Tremain's out of the way.

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Speaker 1: That's the positive way to look at it.

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00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 3: And certainly you've got to think with the way this

768
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 3: coaching staff and this leadership is structured here in Buffalo,

769
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 3: whoever gets that spot is gonna be better in week

770
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 3: four than they were in week one. They're gonna be

771
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 3: better in week eight than they were in week four,

772
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 3: and so on and so forth. That's just the way

773
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 3: this whole place is structured. You get better and you grow,

774
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 3: and you gotta get better. And these guys that are

775
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 3: coming back now after their rookie a guy like Specter

776
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 3: coming back after a rookie season, and Bernard, I gotta

777
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 3: think those guys are going to take a step forward,

778
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 3: particularly since they're gonna get a lot more meaningful reps

779
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 3: during practice, in preseason and in games perhaps as well

780
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 3: in the early going. So as you know, as sorry

781
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 3: as I was to see Tremaine Edmunds go, I have

782
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 3: a hard time seeing a cliff in his off, you know,

783
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 3: going to that position, going off a cliff in his absence.

784
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 2: Back to the phones and to Alex in Pittsburgh, what

785
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 2: do you got first, Alex.

786
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Speaker 4: Hey, guys, thanks for thinking my all y'all here in Pittsburgh.

787
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 4: I'm really excited for the move that that being has made,

788
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 4: specially on the defensive front. I'm really excited about Ford

789
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 4: from Seattle. I can't remember how you say is first? Yes, correct?

790
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:17,240
Speaker 4: And and also the kid from Leonard Floyd from UH

791
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 4: from LA and once one Miller's healthy, they'll be rotating

792
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 4: as guys and I faced and all of our entire

793
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 4: back back.

794
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 7: Into that defense.

795
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Speaker 4: And once once Miller's healthy, Saty might be be healthy early.

796
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 4: But I think that's gonna be a scary looking defensive line.

797
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 4: And I also have a question guys about UH Taylor Rap,

798
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 4: Like I know hide employer are obviously healthy. Do you

799
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 4: think he'll see much of the field when those two

800
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 4: guys are healthy. And I'll just hang up and listen

801
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 4: with you have to say thank you very much.

802
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's an interesting question, alex One. We don't

803
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 2: have a definitive answer to yet, but I will say

804
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 2: this time and again we hear this coaching staff say,

805
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 2: whether it's offense, defense, whoor special teams, the best eleven

806
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: are going to play. And I I think you could

807
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 2: find a pretty easy path to convincing yourself that Tailor

808
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 2: Rap is one of the eleven best defenders on the

809
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 2: roster and there may be a way to get him

810
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 2: on the field. And some of us have speculated, and

811
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 2: this is just speculation. It's not because we saw anything

812
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 2: out on a practice field anywhere the spring, because we

813
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 2: had limited looks at it. But knowing the talent that

814
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 2: Rap is, knowing the effusive praise that he has gotten

815
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Speaker 2: from Sean McDermott, I think this coaching staff believes he

816
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 2: can help their defense. And so even in an instance

817
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 2: where Poyer and Hyde let's just say hypothetically are healthy

818
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 2: for all seventeen games in the playoffs, I think they

819
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 2: find a way to get him on the field. Whether

820
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 2: it's a three safety look, whether if it's as a

821
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 2: hybrid linebacker, whether it's a package of plays. I think

822
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 2: his talent is too readily apparent to keep him off

823
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 2: the field, and so I would trust that this defensive staff,

824
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: along with head coach Chean mc dermott, will devise a

825
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 2: way to get him on the field and allow him

826
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: to make an impact on this defense.

827
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm with Browning.

828
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 3: I think you could see I foresee a situation right

829
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 3: out of the gate where and I we haven't, like

830
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 3: I said, I we haven't watched practice anything. But I'm

831
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 3: just you know, you if you know Tremaine Edmonds is

832
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 3: not there, that you feel like you got to put

833
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 3: him on the field and keep him on the field.

834
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, Matt Mlano moves to the mic

835
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 3: in a passing and like in third and seven plus situation,

836
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 3: Milano goes to the mic. Backer rap comes in at

837
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 3: the wheelbacker as a coverage guy or a blitzer or

838
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 3: whatever you want to call it. And you play your

839
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 3: defense like that with Tarren Johnson, you know elam and

840
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 3: and uh White at the corners with the two safeties

841
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 3: Hide and Poyer and you got too good three safeties.

842
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: With Milano, it's like a dime.

843
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 3: Look, three safeties, three corners and and there you go,

844
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 3: uh and situational football like that. I don't know if

845
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 3: they'll do that, and I don't know what I don't

846
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 3: even know what McDermott's philosophy is, because if he's got

847
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 3: a philosophy, he won't go against it.

848
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 2: That's right. But I think he is willing to adapt

849
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,439
Speaker 2: and change if he believes it benefits the overall play

850
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 2: of the defense. I mean, time and again, there is

851
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 2: a long track record here of him doing the thing

852
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 2: that is best for the team, not for an individual player,

853
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: not for a side of the ball, if it benefits

854
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 2: the team's overall opportunity to win football games. He will

855
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 2: make the change. And if you go back to his

856
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 2: time as DC and Carolina, there are some instances in

857
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 2: which he used three safety looks. So I think there's

858
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 2: a very good chance that Taylor Rap finds his way

859
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 2: on the field in this defense in some capacity, even

860
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 2: if Hyde and Poyer are healthy. We got to take

861
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 2: a break here, but Edric in New Jersey, John and

862
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 2: South Buffalo hang tight. We'll get to you when we return.

863
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Speaker 2: Here on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health, It's

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back here on One Bill's Live,

865
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Speaker 2: Chris Brown Steve Tasker with you and discussing who you

866
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Speaker 2: believe is the most important defensive player for the Bills

867
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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three. We get right back to the

868
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Speaker 2: phones and we go to Edrick down in New Jersey.

869
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Speaker 2: What do you got for us?

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Speaker 1: Drick?

871
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Speaker 7: Hey, what's up? Gentlemen?

872
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 6: Hawa are you?

873
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go off a little off topic, and I'm

874
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 7: so sorry.

875
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 4: I saw the.

876
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 7: Time I've been me and the club. I've been chomping

877
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 7: at the bit to call. I gotta say my piece

878
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 7: about Sean McDermott. You guys had long talks before you

879
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 7: went on the hiatus for your little vacation, and I

880
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 7: was listening to you know, playing back because I don't

881
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 7: get to listen to it live. And Guys, I want

882
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,479
Speaker 7: to preplace this my Sean mcdermot's speech here by saying,

883
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 7: I think Sean McDermott's a good coach. There's no doubt

884
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 7: about it. I think Sean McDermott wins games. I mean

885
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 7: our record proves it. But my question now, after each

886
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 7: and every playoff loss, is Canshawn McDermott get us over

887
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 7: the hump to win a super Bowl, which is the goal.

888
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 7: I mean, that's what we want to win. Yeah, making

889
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 7: the playoffs is great. I mean I'm all about winning championship,

890
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 7: especially when you have what I feel is one of

891
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 7: the best losses in the NFL. And now I'm gonna

892
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 7: give you this comparison. I hope you give me some time.

893
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 7: When you watch quarterbacks play the quarterback position, you just

894
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 7: tell when someone has it or they don't. Writ It's easy,

895
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 7: you can just tell. You know, you watch Josh and

896
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 7: you're like, man, Josh got it, as you would know, Chris.

897
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 7: You don't think to hire Dak Prescott back is a

898
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 7: good quarterback, right, but we all see it. He just

899
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 7: doesn't have it. Kirk Cousins just doesn't have it. Now,

900
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 7: when I watch Sean McDermott, you tell me you don't

901
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 7: see the difference between Sean McDermott and kysh Hanahan, Between

902
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 7: Sean McDermott and Sean McVay and Andy Reid and Bill

903
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 7: Belichick and heck, I don't even put dous Peterson on there.

904
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 7: There's just a difference, just like you've seen quarterbacks.

905
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 4: You see it.

906
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 7: I mean, it's there. I think right now we have

907
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 7: the Kirk Cousins of coaching. Right now, I think we

908
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 7: have Dak Prescott. Yeah, it's a good coach, But man,

909
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 7: are we gonna win a championship with Dak Prescott or

910
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 7: with or with Kirk Cousins?

911
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 6: You know?

912
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 7: And and and that's my fear right now. I think

913
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 7: this is a big year for coach McDermott, not only

914
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 7: because we've progressed every year in the playoffs. Now only

915
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 7: have we been out coached. And guys, there's no doubt

916
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 7: about it. We have been out coached every playoff loss.

917
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 7: We have been out coached. You know, Russ Tucker, he

918
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 7: made these rankings the other a few months ago with coaching,

919
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 7: he had Sean McDermott real down there and and a

920
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 7: lot of people were surprised and they were a little

921
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 7: irk even I was. But man, when you heard him

922
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 7: explain himself, Russ Tucker made a lot of lot of

923
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 7: good points. Listen, I'm not firing Sean McDermott just for

924
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 7: the heck of it, but I think the goole is

925
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 7: going to have to take a big long look a

926
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 7: few years, maybe next year or this year. It's a

927
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 7: big year for Sean McDermott. I think Sean McDermott wants

928
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 7: to run the ball. I think he wants two tight ends.

929
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 7: I think he's finally going to have that. Guys. I

930
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 7: think if he doesn't win the way he wants to win,

931
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 7: I think someone answers have you know, some questions will

932
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 7: have to be answered and the Goola is going to

933
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 7: have to take a big hard look at himself. And

934
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 7: I just want to get your thoughts on that. I

935
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 7: think I made some good points. I'm not just talking

936
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 7: as angry or I think that points about it. And

937
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 7: that's one of your thoughts on.

938
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: You, guys. I get you, and thanks for calling in Ederick. Yeah,

939
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:37,439
Speaker 1: your point.

940
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 3: You have valid points because you got to and everybody

941
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 3: wants to lay the blame somewhere for every loss, and

942
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,439
Speaker 3: there's and there's never. To me, there's never the same

943
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 3: reason you lose any game. You can go back and

944
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,959
Speaker 3: look at any six or seven plays of a game,

945
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 3: of an NFL game, playoffs or otherwise and say that's

946
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 3: the reason, that's the reason, that reason. It's this player,

947
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 3: that player, the other player, it's this coach, that coach

948
00:46:59,600 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 3: or the other.

949
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: I get all of that. Here's the thing.

950
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 3: All those coaches you named went through the same process

951
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 3: and the same escalating level of respect that Sean McDermott

952
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 3: is in the midst of getting now, particularly like guys

953
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 3: like Andy Reid, and for every guy you mentioned, I

954
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 3: can mention at a point in their career when they

955
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 3: were just like him, and you say, like like like

956
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 3: Kyle Shanahan, My my I would submit, Kyle, I don't

957
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,479
Speaker 3: want to play quarterback for shock Kyle Shanahan because never

958
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 3: and only one time, has he had a team where

959
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 3: the quarterback would stay out of the hospital. And I

960
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,720
Speaker 3: say hospital facetiously, not in the hospital, but they're injured.

961
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 3: They're always hurt, his quarterbacks are always banged up.

962
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: That's on him. Now, that's on him. So you can

963
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: and I get it.

964
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 3: He's a really good coach and I and I wouldn't

965
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 3: submit that anybody fire that guy either. But I don't

966
00:47:58,239 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 3: want I want to go to I want to say this,

967
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 3: If you think Sean McDermott has been only at say

968
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 3: he's been way above average, but say he's been as

969
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 3: a playoff coach, he's only been average, won a game

970
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 3: every year, one playoff game, but he's also never been

971
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 3: to the super Bowl, so he's like average or maybe

972
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 3: even below average. I still think this is a guy

973
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 3: you stick with because he's learning lessons and by his

974
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 3: own self admitted self evaluation, which he's very transparent about,

975
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 3: he's gonna get better in those situations. Do you want

976
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 3: to take a chance on a guy who may be

977
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 3: better in those situations or a guy who has not

978
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 3: learned the hard lessons that Sean McDermott and his team

979
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 3: have learned over the last five years.

980
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: I think I don't think so.

981
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 3: I think I trust this guy's message and Brandy and

982
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 3: I rubbing up against people who know him and talking

983
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 3: to him and say he's he's gonna get to that

984
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 3: spot because that's his goal.

985
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 1: He's not done yet.

986
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,280
Speaker 3: And for whatever hard things we've all been through together,

987
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 3: whether it's been Sean mcdermot's fault, Josh Allen's fault, or

988
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 3: Leslie Fraser's fault, or Brian Dables's fault, or Ken Dorsey's fault,

989
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 3: or Brandon Bean's fault, my fault, Brownie's fault, whoever's fault

990
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 3: it is, that guy's getting better and he's making the

991
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 3: most of the lessons he's been taught. So I and

992
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 3: I get it while we've come up short and ultimately

993
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 3: laid at the feet of the head coach. Okay, I

994
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 3: want this guy because I know he's not gonna do

995
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 3: what he did. Then you know, I know he's not

996
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 3: gonna make that mistake again, or whatever mistake you want

997
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 3: to point to. So that's I want to go forward

998
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 3: with this guy because he has brought us to the

999
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 3: brink of where everybody wants to be, where we all

1000
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 3: want to be. And like I said, they've been good

1001
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 3: enough three years and now that you're getting to these

1002
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 3: places where you're splitting hairs as to whether you advance

1003
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 3: or not, I want a guy who's been there and

1004
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 3: can get you right back to that conversation again, let's

1005
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 3: take know the shot at it. I want to take

1006
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 3: every shot I can and this group, with this head coach,

1007
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 3: this GM, all these guys, I want to be there

1008
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 3: every year. And that's where we're at because I know

1009
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,240
Speaker 3: from my experience of observing other teams and the teams

1010
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 3: that I've played on and covering every team in the league.

1011
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:17,479
Speaker 1: You gotta get that.

1012
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,439
Speaker 3: That's the thing because when you get there, every game

1013
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 3: is in and of itself its own entity, and you

1014
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 3: use all those lessons, you take one more shot at it,

1015
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 3: You're not gonna get there taking one big swing at

1016
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 3: the fence. I mean you got to. You gotta give

1017
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 3: yourself as many chances as you can to get there.

1018
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 3: And I think Sean McDermott has proven that may be

1019
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 3: what he does best. Now you can say what you

1020
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 3: want about you know he can't take the next step.

1021
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know about that.

1022
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say I do believe he can get

1023
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 2: this team over the hump and to the big game

1024
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 2: and win the big game. Yeah, Now that's just how

1025
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 2: I feel. You're questioning it. You have every right to

1026
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 2: correct question it. They haven't gotten there yet. Kyle Shanahan

1027
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 2: hasn't won a Super Bowl as a head coach either,

1028
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 2: so you know, you can compare apples and apples or

1029
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 2: apples and oranges, however you see it. But I think

1030
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 2: he's good enough to get them to the promised Land. Clearly.

1031
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 2: Terry Pagoula and Kim Pagola think that as well, after

1032
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 2: the most recent two year contract extension which runs concurrently

1033
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 2: with Brandon Bean, so they believe they have the right

1034
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 2: people in place. I tend to agree. I realize that

1035
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 2: it hasn't been definitively proven on the field in the postseason,

1036
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 2: yet I think they'll get there just the way I feel.

1037
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 2: We got to take a break here. When we come

1038
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 2: back our number two, we'll begin with CBS Sports Senior

1039
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,879
Speaker 2: NFL writer Will Brinson had some interesting comments to make,

1040
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 2: and then it's right back to your phone calls. Here

1041
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live presented by co Lot of Health,

1042
00:51:47,160 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1043
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

1044
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 2: All Right, hour number two here on a Monday, Chris

1045
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 2: brown Steed tasking with you. One Bill's Live is the

1046
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 2: show of your choice. Thanks for joining us. Waiting to

1047
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 2: get in touch with CBS Sports senior NFL writer Will Brinton,

1048
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 2: also co host of the Pick six NFL podcast, So

1049
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 2: we'll get in touch with him as soon as possible.

1050
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 2: But in the meantime, it's back to the phones where

1051
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 2: we are asking you who you believe will be the

1052
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 2: most important Bills defensive player of the twenty twenty three season.

1053
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 2: And we lead off this segment with Jerry and Tonawanda.

1054
00:52:58,080 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 2: What do you got for us?

1055
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 9: Jerry, Hey, guys, A long time watcher, I'm retiring. I

1056
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 9: watch you guys every day. I think. Yeah, I'm originally

1057
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 9: from Wyoming and uh, not to brag, but I was

1058
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 9: the first person that wanted Josh Allen here when their veils.

1059
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 2: Wanted you were the first.

1060
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 9: I was, I was, I was. I watched him in

1061
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:24,919
Speaker 9: college anyway, back in the day. I was a huge

1062
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:29,760
Speaker 9: Viking fan. And let me tell you, if we could

1063
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 9: it would be over the top. If we could have

1064
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 9: somehow get coach McDermott to get Alan Page to talk

1065
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 9: to Ed Oliver or even better yet, come to our camp.

1066
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 9: I mean, he was like the first defensive tackle m

1067
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 9: VP of the league. He is like, if to pick

1068
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 9: his brain and teach at Oliver and the other defensive

1069
00:53:52,360 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 9: tackles up defensive line, his his his his specialty. I

1070
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 9: think that would be over.

1071
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 7: The top to get him.

1072
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 9: I'd love to see Alan Page come here and talk

1073
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 9: to our defensive line. That's what I think.

1074
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 2: All right. So you're so I'm guessing that to mean

1075
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 2: that at Oliver is the player that you think is

1076
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 2: going to be most important or defensively.

1077
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 9: How because yeah, because back in the day Alan Page

1078
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 9: was was just quick as a cat. Nobody could stop him,

1079
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 9: and he would get so many tackles and stuff because

1080
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 9: nobody could block him. And so ed Oliver has that

1081
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,399
Speaker 9: quickness and if that, if that, if you could teach

1082
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 9: at Oliver a little something extra, uh, I think it

1083
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 9: would would make it Oliver that much better of a player.

1084
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right. It is a thing, I guess finger

1085
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 3: quotes a thing. Thanks for the call, Jerry, But it's

1086
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 3: a thing around the league for teams to bring in

1087
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 3: former great players. In fact, Sean McDermott brought in Luke

1088
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 3: Keikley to talk to Tremaine Edmonds.

1089
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: Bruce was here, Bruce Smith comes.

1090
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 2: Help Greg Russo out.

1091
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:05,919
Speaker 3: Smith Bruce came in and has conversations with guys. You're right,

1092
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 3: it's interesting too, you said Alan Page, who, by the.

1093
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: Way, I got a lot of respect for as well.

1094
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 3: It's it's hard to You're right, it's hard to find

1095
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 3: a guy that plays the position with the same physical

1096
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 3: gifts that.

1097
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 1: Ed Oliver has.

1098
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Alan Page may fit that description,

1099
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 3: but ed Oliver is is a little bit undersized, little

1100
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 3: lighter than most defensive linemen. So we've got to have

1101
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 3: a skill set that compliments that and gives him an

1102
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 3: edge in a matchup, particularly one on one. So it's

1103
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 3: hard to find guys in the past who match up

1104
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 3: like that, Like I said, Keithley and Tremaine Edmonds kind

1105
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 3: of match up like that.

1106
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: Bruce, Bruce can.

1107
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:49,720
Speaker 3: Match up with anybody and give him some insights because

1108
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 3: he's the best guy to ever do it.

1109
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 1: So, yes, it is a thing.

1110
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 3: And if there is a guy out there that Sean

1111
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 3: McDermott thought could help ed Oliver like that.

1112
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: I mean you can sure. You can be sure. He

1113
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 1: brought him in and not for nothing.

1114
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 3: That's why they brought One of the reasons they brought

1115
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 3: von Miller in that's why they So they coveted him

1116
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 3: so much and we're wanting to pay him all that

1117
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 3: money is because that guy's a mentor. So you're you're

1118
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 3: right on, Jerry, You're right bringing guys in who have

1119
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 3: played the position at a high level and they did

1120
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 3: it with their what was between their ears as much

1121
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 3: as they did with their with their physical gifts. It's

1122
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 3: a huge plus and it's the thing around the league.

1123
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 3: So you're right. I don't have a problem with that.

1124
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 3: I'd be I'd be willing to listen to that conversation

1125
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:32,439
Speaker 3: as well.

1126
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 1: So good on you.

1127
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 2: Let's uh welcome in CBS Sports senior NFL writer Will Brinson.

1128
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 2: Glad to get him on the line here, Will, thanks

1129
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 2: for joining us. Hey you Ben, what's up?

1130
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 9: Guys?

1131
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 5: Sorry about that.

1132
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 10: We had a we've migrated from CBS to Paramount and

1133
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 10: the technology uh the Gerbils who run the technology department

1134
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 10: decided not to have my Paramount email work.

1135
00:56:58,000 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: Nice, So there you go this murder.

1136
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,280
Speaker 5: So that's been fun. Well, always yelled.

1137
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: At me for that.

1138
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm glad we've we've ironed that out and

1139
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 2: we've got you here, and we should probably begin with

1140
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 2: some of the recent quarterback rankings that you put together

1141
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 2: on CBO Sports. Obviously we weren't surprised to see, you know,

1142
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 2: Josh Allen in the top tier with Patrick Mahomes and

1143
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow. My question for you is how hard was

1144
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 2: it to tier the rest of them after that?

1145
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 10: Yeah, so you know, these things I've actually got. I

1146
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 10: think I've done like five radio hits today, like right,

1147
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 10: because people people on top of the tiers. You know,

1148
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 10: it's the slowest time the sports calendar. What happened was unfortunately,

1149
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 10: and I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I know, I know he's

1150
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 10: one of y'all's boys, but I'm gonna throw Hi under

1151
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 10: the bus here, my boy, Chris Japasso, he was very nice.

1152
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 10: He tweeted out the tears, but the problem is he

1153
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 10: tweeted it out without the name of the tiers attached

1154
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 10: to each tier, which made Kyler Murray see it. And

1155
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 10: really I think he was in the sixth tier. But

1156
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 10: the reason he's in the six tiers because the six

1157
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 10: tier is called no clue man, because I don't know

1158
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 10: Kyler Urry's going to play week water, when he's gonna

1159
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 10: come back and play or what the Cardinals are gonna

1160
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 10: do so the rest of them. My goal was not

1161
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 10: to say, all right, here's the three best quarterbacks.

1162
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 5: That was easy the big three.

1163
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 10: The next was like, okay, I want an upside ranking, right,

1164
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,479
Speaker 10: I have four guys in this in tier two who

1165
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 10: I think could viably you know, did he be young

1166
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 10: guys some production For whatever reason, they just didn't make

1167
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 10: that top tier. Lamar Jackson, Trevor Lawrence, which surprised a

1168
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 10: lot of people, but I don't think it should. Jalen

1169
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 10: Hurts had a fantastic season. I just want to see

1170
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 10: him validate it. And then and then justin Herbert, and

1171
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 10: you know Herbert, if the Chargers went twelve games, he'd

1172
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 10: probably be in that first tier next year, I would imagine.

1173
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 5: So like of those four guys, it's could could make.

1174
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 10: The leap into that top tier if everything clicks right

1175
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 10: or they validate the season, and then that Tier three

1176
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 10: is sort of intriguing, but question marks, right, Like Aaron Rodgers,

1177
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 10: he's going to a new team man like for the

1178
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 10: and he's old, Like, that's not guaranteed to work.

1179
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:55,919
Speaker 5: Tom Brady did it well, Matthew Stafford did it well.

1180
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 10: Russell Wilson not so hot through rust in that tier

1181
00:58:58,720 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 10: as well, just because of Sean Payton.

1182
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 3: It's interesting too because it's not necessarily about how good

1183
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 3: the quarterbacks are. Certainly the big three Mahomes and Browns,

1184
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 3: Yeah they're good. Okay, they're elite, and they're in a

1185
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 3: they got a roster around him. It's kind of time

1186
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 3: for them to you know, well, Mahomes already has and

1187
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 3: Joe Burrows exactly like every year exactly so. But the

1188
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 3: others aren't necessarily about how good the guys have been

1189
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 3: or are. It's about the information we have about how

1190
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 3: the season is gonna go for them. And I thought

1191
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 3: that was a really intriguing way to break it down,

1192
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 3: because you're right, he get down to like like like

1193
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 3: Tier four is you can win with these guys, but

1194
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 3: how excited It's like Jared Goff, Dak Prescott, Geno Smith,

1195
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins, Ryan Tannehill, Derek Carr, Jimmy Garoppolo and all

1196
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 3: those names kind of they're all they yeah, they're all

1197
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 3: equally uninspiring kind of inspiring saying Okay, we got to

1198
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 3: you know, kind we got a guy, right, Like, nobody's

1199
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 3: gonna beat this guy out.

1200
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: He's our guy.

1201
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 10: Yeah, So, like the biggest thing with Tier three and

1202
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,080
Speaker 10: Tier four that people got mad about and this is why,

1203
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 10: and like the context and the name of the tier,

1204
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 10: like and what the tier focused on was really important.

1205
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 5: People were like, how on earth can you put Daniel Jones.

1206
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 5: I had Dak Prescott and he watched football before.

1207
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 10: Well, yeah I have watched football, watch it for a livin.

1208
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 10: But Daniel Jones, we saw what one year Brian Dabel

1209
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 10: did for him, and like, you guys know real well

1210
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 10: what Brian Dabel could do for a quarterback, right, and.

1211
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 5: He did it really well in New York.

1212
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 10: He did a great job in Buffalo, and he did

1213
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 10: a great job in year one with Daniel Jones. Dak

1214
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 10: Prescott to me, particularly with Mike McCarthy coming out this

1215
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 10: off season and saying that Kellen Moore was trying to

1216
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 10: light up the scoreboard and that he wants to run

1217
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 10: the damn ball so he get his defense off the field,

1218
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 10: which is like literally he said Kellen scored too many points,

1219
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 10: which is just a weird thing to say. But I

1220
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 10: think with that change offensive coordinator and then year two

1221
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 10: for Daniel Jones in that Brian Dable system, there's more

1222
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 10: upside with Daniel Jones, Like there's a better chance that

1223
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 10: Daniel Jones has this big breakout season like Dak Prescott.

1224
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 10: Dak Prescott could be a top ten quarterback or whatever,

1225
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 10: depending on how they shake out. But we've seen Dak Prescott.

1226
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 10: We know what Dak Prescott is. I don't think there's

1227
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 10: another level that Dak is gonna magically take his game

1228
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 10: to as they sort of shift to focus that offense

1229
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 10: into the run game.

1230
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 2: So let me just ask you this, and this is

1231
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 2: somewhat of an interest to Bills fans because the Giants

1232
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 2: are on Buffalo schedule this year, what do you think

1233
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 2: the next level is for Daniel Jones? Because as encouraging

1234
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 2: as his play was last year, he still only threw

1235
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 2: fifteen touchdown passes. I mean, the guy got a forty

1236
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 2: million dollar a year contract throwing fifteen touchdown passes. I

1237
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 2: realized the receiving corps was down. There wasn't a lot

1238
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 2: to work with. But we've seen other quarterbacks do more

1239
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 2: with less. I mean, I still remember Ryan Fitzpatrick here

1240
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 2: in Buffalo with Stevie Johnson and a bunch of guys

1241
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 2: throw twenty three twenty four touchdown passes. He threw fifteen

1242
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 2: touchdown passes. Well, I mean, where is this what's the ceiling?

1243
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 2: I mean it better be a lot higher than that.

1244
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 10: Yeah, oh yeah, I mean like, I mean, yeah, if

1245
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 10: he throws eighteen touchdown passes, I'm not gonna be like, haha,

1246
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 10: I told you a Tier three wins again.

1247
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 5: You know, I'm gonna be like, maybe he's a Tier

1248
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 5: four guy. You can win with him.

1249
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 10: I just think we saw him dramatically cut down on

1250
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 10: the mistakes.

1251
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 5: There was a moment during the season this past.

1252
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 10: Year where he threw a really bad pick and he

1253
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 10: and Brian Dable were sort of screaming on the sidelines,

1254
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 10: but like you could tell that it wasn't you know,

1255
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 10: one of those things that needed to be blown up

1256
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 10: into something bigger. It was Brian Dabele saying, look, dude,

1257
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:17,919
Speaker 10: it was a bad red zone pick. You saying, look,

1258
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 10: He's like, I will give you all the tools you

1259
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 10: need to be successful, but just trust me and do

1260
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 10: what I like, followed the plan. And I think as

1261
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 10: the weapons grow and as Daniel Jones grows into the system,

1262
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 10: remember I mean like he had I think it was

1263
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 10: Pat Shermer and Jason Garrett were's only two offensive coordinators

1264
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 10: and Joe Judges was running the team. You know, this

1265
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 10: is like, this is a guy who's had has not

1266
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 10: been given a fair shake. And when he was drafted,

1267
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 10: people want to pile on Daniel Jones because he went

1268
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 10: six overall in the draft that Dave Gettleman took him,

1269
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 10: and it's easy, it's easy to make fun of, especially

1270
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 10: when he slips and face plants trying to run for

1271
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 10: an open touchdown. I think that I don't know what

1272
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 10: his ceiling is like I would not I would not

1273
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 10: expect to put him in a into Tier two at

1274
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 10: any point, but I think that Tier three fits for him,

1275
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 10: and this season may determine whether he sort of slides

1276
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 10: up in that tier or whether he slides back into

1277
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 10: like a Tier four.

1278
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 5: Is a guy you can win with.

1279
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 3: And you got guys too that we just don't know

1280
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 3: enough about, like like Geno Smith. You know who was

1281
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 3: who disappeared for like a decade and then all of

1282
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 3: a sudden he popped up and was better than he's

1283
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 3: ever been before in Seattle. And certainly it says something

1284
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 3: about Geno Smith. I think it says just as much

1285
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 3: about Pete Carroll and what he knows about football as well.

1286
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 3: What about the situation Geno Smith is in, how do

1287
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 3: you see that evolving in Seattle?

1288
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 1: And can he do that again?

1289
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1290
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 10: I mean I said, like I think before the season

1291
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,919
Speaker 10: it was everybody's like, what what are the Seahawks doing?

1292
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't I don't, I don't know.

1293
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 10: And then I kind of came around to the idea

1294
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 10: that Pete Carroll wanted to recreate essentially like two thousand

1295
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 10: and eleven in twenty twelve, where they were sort of

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Speaker 10: winning rock fights, winning with the defense, running the football,

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01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 10: don't turn the ball over with the quarterback, and then.

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Speaker 5: They won the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 10: You know, before Russ was you know, blew up into

1300
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 10: whatever weird robot celebrity thing he is now like he

1301
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 10: you know, he was, he was you know, he was

1302
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 10: a game manager. Marshawn Lynch was the focal poart of

1303
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 10: that offense, and Russ would just not make mistakes.

1304
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 5: And when he I watched him an NC State for years.

1305
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 10: He was great here, but when he jump to Wisconsin,

1306
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 10: it was the same thing as Seattle he had been.

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01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 10: He is so efficient off of play action that when

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01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 10: he was running that offense with Marshawn Lynch and he

1309
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 10: could take those shots down the field. They didn't need

1310
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 10: a ton of passes for Russ to be successful. And

1311
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 10: so I think Pete Carroll wanted to get away from

1312
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 10: Russ sort of trying to become this MVP slash Hall

1313
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 10: of Famer by Bernershick building on his legacy by throwing

1314
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 10: the ball a toon and get back to his roots.

1315
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 5: And you know, Smith fit that perfectly.

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Speaker 2: Switching to you know, some division prognostication. There are a

1317
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Speaker 2: lot of people that believe that the AFC East is

1318
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 2: now a three horse race with the Patriots, you know,

1319
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 2: loitering in the background. Do you believe it's a three

1320
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 2: team race or is it? Is it cut a little

1321
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 2: bit finer than that in your estimation.

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01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 10: Since this is an official team site, I won't I

1323
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 10: will vaguely reference my thoughts on something in particular, but

1324
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 10: I said last year that the Chiefs not being an

1325
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 10: extreme prohibitive favorite to win the AFC West was insane.

1326
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 10: People got way too over their skis on the Broncos

1327
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 10: trading for Russ and DeVante go.

1328
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 5: Under the Raiders, and then the you know, the.

1329
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 10: Chargers got Khalil Mack everybody did all this stuff, and

1330
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 10: Tyreek Hill gets out of town and everybody on the

1331
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 10: planet wanted to pick somebody else to win that division.

1332
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 10: And now the same sort of thing is happening in

1333
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 10: the AFC East. In my opinion, Aaron Rodgers to the Jets, right.

1334
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 10: The Dolphins have this great roster, but I mean, seriously,

1335
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 10: a major question mark with Tua, like can he is

1336
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 10: he going to play a full season? Should he play

1337
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 10: a full season, what will they do if he were

1338
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 10: to suffer another concussion?

1339
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 5: And then of course you have the Patriots.

1340
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 6: Right.

1341
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 10: Well, I think the Bills are basically a I don't

1342
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 10: want to say, I don't want to you know, there's

1343
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 10: no ady either. I love Tommy Dermott, love Josh Allen,

1344
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 10: There's no Indy b Patrick Mahomes Like. That's just a

1345
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 10: ridiculous combination, right, I think. But I think they're a

1346
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 10: watered down version of that. And people are really itching

1347
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 10: to fade the Bills this year and to pick either

1348
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 10: the Jets.

1349
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 5: Or the Dolphins.

1350
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 10: And I think it's the same mistake as the Chiefs

1351
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 10: last year. Hey, Buffalo's got great coaching, great quarterbacking, the

1352
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 10: whole digs thing.

1353
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 5: This all stee people are just people.

1354
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 10: Just think like it's it's like over in Buffalo or

1355
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 10: something like that, which.

1356
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 1: Is just preposterous.

1357
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 10: I mean, it's a really good team that weren't not

1358
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 10: for Patrick Mahomes playing the role of the bad boy

1359
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 10: Pistons probably would have been like you know, like the

1360
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 10: Balls of the Pistons in the nineties.

1361
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 5: Right, That's like, that's the problem. And I think Buffalo

1362
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 5: comes out hungry.

1363
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Speaker 10: They're not going to be focused on as like the

1364
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:42,439
Speaker 10: number one super Bowl favorite like they were last year.

1365
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Speaker 10: And I think they'll end up being the division winner

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01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 10: and maybe do it a little handily.

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Speaker 3: Handle let's handily, Okay, I get that. Yeah, what about

1368
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 3: how good? And I get it? Think it's a word

1369
01:06:55,360 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 3: I don't, Yes, it is a people into And let's

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01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 3: talk about the rest of the division. Rogers going to

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01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 3: New York and we've seen it last year it looked

1372
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 3: like and and probably was true, they were quarterback away

1373
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 3: from being a really really good football team. They managed

1374
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 3: to beat the Buffalo Bills at home, you know, in

1375
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 3: New York with Zach Wilson, for goodness sake, and it

1376
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 3: looked like are they still that team? And will it

1377
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 3: look like that this year with Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean I think that you take a look

1379
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 10: at this roster and you can talk yourself into this.

1380
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 10: I mean, there's a reason why the Jets are getting

1381
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 10: a hype, right, I mean it's not entirely just like

1382
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 10: like silly fabrication on the part of the media because

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01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 10: Rogers went there. I mean they have, you know, in

1384
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 10: Garrett Wilson, a legit number one Alan Lazard. They paid

1385
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 10: eleven million dollars too, But you know that that helped

1386
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 10: the lure Rogers in Randall Cobbs serves a function as

1387
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 10: sort of that slot wide receiver. Micol Harbin's a very

1388
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 10: fun player too. You had Tip Minute center, and suddenly,

1389
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 10: if the often line is healthy and lives up to

1390
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 10: its expect draft and free agent and cost expectations, then

1391
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 10: this offense can be really good. Reese Hall is coming

1392
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 10: back to that acl. I mean, my boy Ban knightstill

1393
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 10: on the team. They got Michael Carter. Like, this offense

1394
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 10: could be really, really good, but there are question marks

1395
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 10: on that offensive line. You might have a rookie starting

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01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 10: center with a veteran quarterback who is changing teams for

1397
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 10: the first time in his career. That is not a

1398
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 10: guarantee to be a successful formula. McKai Beckton playing for

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01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 10: a contract, Elijah, you know what I mean? Like he

1400
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 10: can he stay healthy? That right tide is really athletic

1401
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 10: with him, Elijah Ferra Tucker if they're both healthy. And

1402
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 10: Dwayne Brown is not exactly young, he's a very good player.

1403
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 10: But like that offensive line, to me, the assumption of

1404
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 10: the Jets being good is that the offensive line will

1405
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 10: be a middle of the road, bare minimum unit, and

1406
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 10: I think it has to be that if the Jets

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Speaker 10: want to challenge the Bills.

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Speaker 1: In this division.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you mentioned the Bills you think could potentially

1410
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 2: win the division handily. Where do you have them coming

1411
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 2: in with with that division title one? Loss wise?

1412
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 5: Let me see.

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01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 10: I think my again, my technology operation here is not

1414
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 10: going well. But I did have the Brinston model. It's

1415
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:15,679
Speaker 10: a proprietary statistical algorithm like that is just me picking

1416
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:19,599
Speaker 10: each game and then adding up the number. But I

1417
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 10: think I had them going either twelve or thirty. I

1418
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 10: think I had Tom either twelve and or twelve and five.

1419
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:27,839
Speaker 10: Thank you there, we go very helpful from your producers.

1420
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:30,879
Speaker 10: Twelve and five. I had the Bills going this season,

1421
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 10: and I think if you look at the AFC East too,

1422
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 10: the schedules like not particularly easy. I mean, they're really

1423
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:38,800
Speaker 10: good teams, but like it's not going to be just

1424
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 10: a walk in the park for these teams. For all

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01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:43,640
Speaker 10: four of these teams, I think Patriots are actually going

1426
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 10: to be a little a bigger problem than people are,

1427
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 10: you know, maybe giving them credit for when you look

1428
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 10: at you know, I mean just basically it's the not

1429
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 10: Matt Patrician at offensive coordinator core of the theory that

1430
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 10: I'm operating with there. And of course, you know you

1431
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 10: have that opener at the Jets, that's a massive game.

1432
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 10: They got to play the Jaguars where they have a buy,

1433
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:02,799
Speaker 10: Like the Jacks will be in London for two weeks,

1434
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,480
Speaker 10: so that's a that's a huge travel disadvantage.

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01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 5: And you know, you have like a lot of winnable games,

1436
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 5: but not exactly a lot of easy games.

1437
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 10: At Eagles at Chiefs like these are some great matchups, uh,

1438
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 10: for the Bills and for.

1439
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 5: Us as football fans.

1440
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:18,639
Speaker 10: I think it's gonna be just difficult with the way

1441
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 10: that the schedules lay out in the ANFC East for

1442
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:22,560
Speaker 10: any team to to I think the Chiefs have a

1443
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 10: very good, uh slot for the number one seed because

1444
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 10: of how the schedules in the afcast plan out.

1445
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 1: Will, that's all great stuff. I appreciate you coming on.

1446
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:32,720
Speaker 3: Your technology looks good from this end, even though if

1447
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,679
Speaker 3: his little get Turkey Jerky getting started is great scene.

1448
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 1: Man. Thanks thanks for making some time. I know you're busy.

1449
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 5: I appreciate you guys anytime.

1450
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 2: All right here, that's Will Brentson, senior NFL writer for

1451
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 2: CBS Sports and UH put some QB tiers together in

1452
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:49,799
Speaker 2: advance of the season, as well as some yeah division

1453
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:52,719
Speaker 2: projictions projected record. You have the Bills Bills at twelve

1454
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 2: and five and with that hard schedule, Steve, you can

1455
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 2: understand that kind of a one lost record.

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01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll say this too, quarterback ranking thing. The thing

1457
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 3: that was great about it was, you know, you say

1458
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 3: one through seven tiers. It's not tiers like best to worse.

1459
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:11,599
Speaker 3: It's about tiers about how do you you know what

1460
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 3: we know about these guys and where they're at now

1461
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:15,800
Speaker 3: and how they think the season's gonna go. So it's

1462
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 3: not really how how good a quarterback they might be.

1463
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 3: And in some cases it is like you know, with

1464
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 3: Alan Mahomes and Burrow and all that stuff and this,

1465
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 3: you know, and Jalen Hurts and it's all kind of

1466
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:31,480
Speaker 3: fixed for them. But the rest of it is about

1467
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 3: what we know about them, and you know, how we

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01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 3: feel about these guys more so than their production on

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01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 3: the field. And whenever you whenever you rank positions like that, man,

1470
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 3: he had to his mentions had to be just off

1471
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:48,719
Speaker 3: the hook.

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Speaker 2: Well, especially when that we don't know category was at

1473
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 2: the bottom and people just thought they were being ranked

1474
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 2: the lowest.

1475
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 3: Right, right, they were actually just kind of when they said.

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01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 3: And there was the last the last two, the last

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01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:05,680
Speaker 3: two tiers of his quarterback one was, hey, no clue, man,

1478
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 3: I don't know how these guys are gonna do. Like

1479
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,599
Speaker 3: to Kyler Murray, he might not play for eight weeks,

1480
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 3: you know, Sam Howell, Jordan loved Baker Mayfield and Desmond

1481
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 3: who's Desmond Ridder played for who is right?

1482
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:21,440
Speaker 1: I don't even know? Like what do you like?

1483
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 6: Like?

1484
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 1: No clue?

1485
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 3: That's tier six. Tier seven was the rookies, Bryce Young, CJ.

1486
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 3: Stroud and Anthony Richardson. So we'll see about those guys.

1487
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 3: They're like in a in a category under themselves, which

1488
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 3: is why I like it. It's it's not just saying

1489
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 3: who you like better, is describing them with it. Yeah,

1490
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 3: and it's it's a really good way to rank quarterbacks.

1491
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones, though, where people have

1492
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:47,719
Speaker 2: been waiting patiently. Who is the most important Bill's defensive

1493
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 2: player for the twenty twenty three season. We go to

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01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 2: Jerry on a sale next, What do you got for us?

1495
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 1: Jerry?

1496
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 2: Are one Bill's life?

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01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 8: Well, I wish I had a name, but I think

1498
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:58,640
Speaker 8: the guy that ends up taking the middle of the

1499
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 8: linebacker position by the way, he Hi, Chris and Steve, Hello, Jerry. Yeah,

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01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 8: I'm I also want to defend John McDermott just for

1501
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 8: a minute.

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01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:11,639
Speaker 9: Uh, I just.

1503
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 8: Want to say how many years was Andy Reid a

1504
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 8: the head coach before he won a Super Bowl? And

1505
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:19,639
Speaker 8: what was the last time Tom Tomlin won a Super Bowl?

1506
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 8: And I've been a fan for a Buffalo for the

1507
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 8: last sixty three years and we've only had four successful

1508
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 8: coach David Knox, uh of course, uh Marv Oh my god, yeah,

1509
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:36,560
Speaker 8: of course I can't think of his name, but McDermott

1510
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 8: of course, and uh Marve lead And you know we're

1511
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 8: gonna throw that away. You know. I think that's just,

1512
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 8: you know, ridiculous. Yeah, you know, I I dreamed about

1513
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 8: him and a team like the Steelers where my team

1514
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 8: was competitive every.

1515
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 1: Year, you know what I mean, Absolutely, that's what I dreamed.

1516
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:56,760
Speaker 3: You're right here, and you're right about the you're right

1517
01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 3: about the middle linebacker spot too, and thanks for the call.

1518
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:04,599
Speaker 3: But yeah, the you're right and nobody I'm certainly there's

1519
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 3: been some people on that endo, the spect the very

1520
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 3: ultra endo, the spectrum where they say, yeah, we should

1521
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 3: fire Sean McDermott and get better. I don't think too

1522
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 3: many people are out there, but I think it's it's fair.

1523
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 3: And Sean McDermott, knowing what I know about him, he's

1524
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 3: got big shoulders. If you got a he probably is

1525
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:24,679
Speaker 3: more critical of himself than any of the fans out

1526
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 3: there are because that's the kind of guy he is.

1527
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:29,640
Speaker 3: That's why he is as good as he is. I

1528
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 3: think it's I think it's right. Most people don't really

1529
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 3: understand or have a grasp of everything that falls on

1530
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 3: the desk of a head coach in the National Football League,

1531
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 3: and not all of it. Most of what falls on

1532
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 3: his desk is stuff we don't have any idea about,

1533
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:51,639
Speaker 3: and a lot of what he does and what makes

1534
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 3: him a good head coach is stuff he does when

1535
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 3: he's out in front of his desk, when he's out

1536
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 3: in front of his team and on the field and

1537
01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 3: in front of his staff. Is an incredibly complex and

1538
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 3: difficult job. And as prepared as these guys are as

1539
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 3: coordinators when they finally get these big breaks as a

1540
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 3: head coach, no doubt, each and every one of them

1541
01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 3: has a different set of lessons to learn about.

1542
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 1: Being a head coach.

1543
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 3: Brian Dabols going through some of that in New York,

1544
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 3: no doubt every coach does. And if you're thinking like

1545
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:29,400
Speaker 3: your guy is not where he should be, well, yeah, okay,

1546
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 3: I would submit that there's some guys maybe who have

1547
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 3: won a Super Bowl or been to a Super Bowl

1548
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 3: who maybe weren't complete head coaches, and guys who have

1549
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:41,639
Speaker 3: never been to Super Bowl, maybe been to a Super

1550
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 3: Bowl and lost it, whatever, have never won the ultimate prize,

1551
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 3: who were very complete head coaches and didn't get everything

1552
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 3: else they needed. There's a gazillion moving parts to being

1553
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 3: a really good NFL football team and winning games, but

1554
01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 3: that holy Grail to me, because at some point you're

1555
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:02,600
Speaker 3: going to gret that. You're gonna get it if you

1556
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 3: get enough shots at it and you learn enough hard lessons,

1557
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 3: and you have a coach that has been through it

1558
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 3: and he's not gonna make that mistaken. And when they

1559
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:12,599
Speaker 3: get there, he remembers right away. It's like, oh yeah, yeah,

1560
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 3: we're not gonna do that again.

1561
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:13,960
Speaker 1: Let's go.

1562
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:17,720
Speaker 3: We got a better plan this time. Let's go and

1563
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 3: plus And I hate to say it like this, but

1564
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:26,759
Speaker 3: in that game, in that moment, when it's fourth quarter

1565
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:29,680
Speaker 3: of a super Bowl two minutes ago, the ball bounces

1566
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 3: to you instead of to them. It sometimes that's what

1567
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 3: it comes down to. And then all of a sudden,

1568
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 3: everybody piles on the winner and says he's the greatest

1569
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:41,680
Speaker 3: thing since sliced bread. And because that ball bounces the

1570
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:44,599
Speaker 3: other way, your guy stinks, you should fire him. That's

1571
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:46,720
Speaker 3: that's the world we live in, and that's kind of

1572
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 3: what they sign up for.

1573
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 1: But I'm not.

1574
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 3: I am not in that camp. I am with you know,

1575
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 3: guys like Jerry on the cell, Bro, you gotta you

1576
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 3: gotta just go and do what you do and do

1577
01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:57,639
Speaker 3: it better.

1578
01:16:57,680 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 1: Every year.

1579
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 2: We will have to take a break here, but when

1580
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 2: we come back, we'll also discuss Jerry's point about the

1581
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:06,440
Speaker 2: nameless starting middle linebacker.

1582
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:07,760
Speaker 1: Is that the.

1583
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:11,599
Speaker 2: Most important Bills defensive player for the twenty twenty twenty

1584
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 2: three season. We'll discuss when we return here on One

1585
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 2: Bill's Live, presented by Colia Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

1586
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

1587
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 2: Steve tasking with you here on a Monday, and we've

1588
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 2: been asking you today to discuss the following. Who is

1589
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:32,599
Speaker 2: the most important Bill's defensive player for the twenty twenty

1590
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:34,680
Speaker 2: three season and why? Our last caller, Jerry on a

1591
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 2: Cell mentioned a couple of things, but the one we

1592
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 2: did not yet get to is the nameless starter at

1593
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:45,679
Speaker 2: the middle linebacker position. Is that the most important Bill's

1594
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:48,599
Speaker 2: defensive player for the twenty twenty three season. I don't

1595
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 2: know if it is. And the only reason I say that, Steve, is, Look,

1596
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 2: maybe the Bill's hands were tied cap wise and there

1597
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 2: was no chance they were gonna be able to compete

1598
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 2: to keep Tremaine Edmonds. An ideal world, they would, I

1599
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 2: would like to think, but that was the player they

1600
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 2: decided to let go. If you know what I'm saying.

1601
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 2: Part of the reason why was because they anticipated as

1602
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:17,440
Speaker 2: asking price would be too steep for them to accommodate.

1603
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 2: But at the same time, we talk about premium positions

1604
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 2: in the NFL these days, and middle linebacker is not

1605
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:35,839
Speaker 2: on that list. It's usually quarterback, left tackle, edge rusher, corner,

1606
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 2: and wide receiver. Those are the perceived anyway premium positions. Now,

1607
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 2: that's not to say you don't need a good middle

1608
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 2: linebacker to be a successful football team, but I guess

1609
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:50,680
Speaker 2: what I'm saying is, yeah, they better have somebody that

1610
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 2: can handle the job and all the responsibility that goes

1611
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 2: with that position, and they better be productive to some

1612
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 2: degree your middle linebackers. Usually you're leading tackler every year.

1613
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 2: But at the same time, the Bills are leaving it

1614
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 2: up to an unproven player at this level, assuming it's

1615
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:12,400
Speaker 2: not a J. Klein to fill the role. Now, the

1616
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 2: coaching staff knows a lot more about the guys they

1617
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 2: have in that competition than we do. They see him

1618
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:20,600
Speaker 2: every day, but that's what they're going with in a

1619
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 2: go for a year. So is that guy the most important?

1620
01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:24,680
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1621
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:26,679
Speaker 1: Well, let me go this. Let me say this.

1622
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:36,600
Speaker 3: They extended Taron Johnson, Dawson Knox, Tredavious White, Matt Mulano,

1623
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 3: Deon Dawkins, Steph Diggs, Dion Dawkins, Micah Hyde, Jordan Poyer,

1624
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 3: Mitch Morse.

1625
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 2: Of course, Josh, you said Milano too, right, Yeah, So.

1626
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 3: They there's a long list of guys. They now those

1627
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 3: guys some of them said, you know, I want they

1628
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 3: got it done early. They took you know, whatever, they

1629
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:57,720
Speaker 3: didn't push it, they didn't go to free agency, but

1630
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 3: they they extended all of those guys. Whatever reason they

1631
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 3: did not extend Tremaine Edmunds. Some of it maybe has

1632
01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 3: to do with the position he plays, much like like

1633
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 3: running back, how it's getting devalued and guys are you know,

1634
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:16,480
Speaker 3: you don't have those big thumpers like the Pepper Johnson's

1635
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 3: of the world inside there, you know, coming up and

1636
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 3: taking on guards and stuff. But I think some of

1637
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:28,719
Speaker 3: it has to do with that, and I think it's

1638
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 3: it's not coincidental that the place where Tremaine Edmunds landed

1639
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 3: is a place.

1640
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:40,840
Speaker 1: That's notoriously poorly run.

1641
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 3: And a place where they've had a history of great

1642
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:50,520
Speaker 3: middle linebackers all the way to Dick Butkus, Mike Singletary,

1643
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:54,640
Speaker 3: Brian R. Locker, now Tremaine Edmunds steps in. It's a

1644
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 3: it's a club that I think at the tip top

1645
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:01,280
Speaker 3: has some antiquated idea is about how to build a roster.

1646
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 3: That's where he lands. I don't think that's the same

1647
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:08,599
Speaker 3: philosophy they use here in Buffalo. And I think they

1648
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:10,679
Speaker 3: had a number that they would have given Tremaine Edmonds,

1649
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 3: and I think they would have loved to have had

1650
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 3: him stay. But it's not fifteen million plus a year.

1651
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,799
Speaker 3: And I think it's that simple. All these other guys

1652
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 3: they got and they extended, and I think Tremaine and

1653
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 3: his representation were probably smart in letting him hit the

1654
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 3: open market because Milano, Dawson, Knox, Tarren Johnson certainly Digs

1655
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:38,759
Speaker 3: Dion Dawkins. They're all making good money, not elite money,

1656
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 3: and they're very happy where they're at. And I think

1657
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:43,840
Speaker 3: a lot of those guys, I think, take it for granted.

1658
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 1: I don't.

1659
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 3: It takes a lot of intelligence say no, no, no, no,

1660
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 3: I got a good thing going here and.

1661
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 2: I got a coaching staff that believes in me.

1662
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:55,840
Speaker 1: And I've said this over the last couple of days.

1663
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:56,639
Speaker 1: I said it to somebody.

1664
01:21:56,680 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 3: The one aspect of a player's career that every other

1665
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:07,960
Speaker 3: player in the league respects, the one aspect of every

1666
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:11,439
Speaker 3: career that is, when it's all said and done, gets

1667
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:14,880
Speaker 3: the ultimate seal of respect and approval by other players

1668
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 3: around the league, regardless of where they.

1669
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 1: Played, is longevity.

1670
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 3: And I think these players who signed here realize their

1671
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:25,519
Speaker 3: best chance to have a long and productive career is here.

1672
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 2: In Buffalo where they're also gonna win.

1673
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 1: And they're gonna win. They're really gonna win.

1674
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 2: Let's get to the tweet sheet. Gotta crack that open

1675
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 2: here before we're off the air today. Tweet sheet brought

1676
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:37,960
Speaker 2: to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving

1677
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 2: company in the Buffalo Bills, and Mad Law says the

1678
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 2: correct answer for the most important Bills defensive player for

1679
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:48,920
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three is Josh Allen. The Bills and any

1680
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 2: contender will need to outscore top tier teams rather than

1681
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:55,800
Speaker 2: shut them down. It's an interesting way to look at it.

1682
01:22:57,000 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 2: I get what you're saying. Go back to the Super Bowl.

1683
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 2: It's hard to argue. I mean, the Philadelphia Eagles had

1684
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:09,719
Speaker 2: the number one sack defense in football seventy two sacks

1685
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:13,599
Speaker 2: last year didn't matter. They lost what was it, thirty

1686
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:17,799
Speaker 2: eight to thirty five in the Super Bowl, a great

1687
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 2: defense and it didn't matter.

1688
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 3: It just don't You're right. And at the end of

1689
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:23,760
Speaker 3: the where we're with the end of the season, when

1690
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:25,640
Speaker 3: the Bills were sitting at home and they you know,

1691
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 3: and then the Bengals. The Bengals scored exactly what their

1692
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:30,599
Speaker 3: average was for the entire year.

1693
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 1: They scored.

1694
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 3: They averaged twenty six and a half points a game

1695
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 3: during the regular season. They scored twenty seven against Buffalo.

1696
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 3: It's right af their average, and they advanced the Bills,

1697
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 3: don't because they scored ten. We always felt and we

1698
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 3: said it a ton it was an arms race. I

1699
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 3: don't know, nothing's changed yet for me. I think you're

1700
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 3: he may be right that you're gonna have to score

1701
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 3: some points, and particularly when you get to the end

1702
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 3: of the year, when you get to this quarterback and

1703
01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 3: that quarterback and the other quarterback, you're gonna you're gonna

1704
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 3: have to light it up. And I think that tweet

1705
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 3: is a reflection of that.

1706
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:06,759
Speaker 2: Tiffany on the tweets sheet says, a healthy Tray White

1707
01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 2: helps lock down half the field allowing our pass rush

1708
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 2: just enough time to disrupt the opposing quarterback. I'm telling

1709
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:18,559
Speaker 2: you that Steve and I have both saw it. He

1710
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 2: looks like all pro tray again, at least he did

1711
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:23,639
Speaker 2: in the spring. I would anticipate the same in training camp.

1712
01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:27,519
Speaker 2: And if he's back to all pro level tray, that

1713
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:31,680
Speaker 2: changes the dynamic of opposing passing games precipitously. And then

1714
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 2: if you take it a step further with what Steve

1715
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:36,240
Speaker 2: said at the top of the show about Kyrie Elam,

1716
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:39,679
Speaker 2: and if he takes another step and wins the starting job,

1717
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 2: you have two first round corners potentially locking down the

1718
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 2: top two passing options from the opponent. And now they're

1719
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:50,840
Speaker 2: going to their third and fourth option more often. And oh,

1720
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 2: by the way, you got a top five nickel corner

1721
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 2: and Tarren Johnson.

1722
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's that's where you gotta be. And I

1723
01:24:57,439 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 3: that's why I said at the top of the show,

1724
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:02,640
Speaker 3: Kyrie Elam is really the the important guy for the

1725
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 3: Bills defense. If because it think about it, if it

1726
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 3: was balanced and Tredevious White and Kyrie Eland were equally

1727
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:12,519
Speaker 3: as good, and you and I have said, we don't

1728
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 3: know how how Tremaine or Tredevious is gonna play. But

1729
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:19,599
Speaker 3: it certainly looks like he is himself back to his

1730
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:23,840
Speaker 3: old self. I mean you can just his body language,

1731
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 3: his demeanor, his attitude, everything is just completely upbeat and

1732
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:30,200
Speaker 3: right back to where it was two years ago. You

1733
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:32,880
Speaker 3: can just tell he feels great, and that's, to me,

1734
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:34,599
Speaker 3: is a great sign of where he's at and his

1735
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 3: recovery from the knee injury two years ago and where

1736
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:41,000
Speaker 3: he never seemed to quite get to this last season.

1737
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:46,680
Speaker 2: Uh to faha on the tweets sheet, says Groot. If

1738
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:49,559
Speaker 2: he takes his game to the next level, Greg Russell

1739
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:52,960
Speaker 2: will help out the secondary incredibly. If he can affect

1740
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 2: the quarterback on a consistent basis, our defensive line will

1741
01:25:55,920 --> 01:26:01,760
Speaker 2: be formidable even in Vaughan's absence. Yeah, I mean, I've

1742
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:03,559
Speaker 2: said it a bunch of times on this show, and

1743
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:07,120
Speaker 2: I'll say it quickly here again. Year three has been

1744
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 2: a breakout year for a lot of players on this

1745
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:12,760
Speaker 2: roster in the past. You know, whether you're talking about

1746
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 2: Dawson Knox, Tarren Johnson in year three, there's a long

1747
01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 2: list of players who have really caught fire in year

1748
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 2: three of their careers. Spencer Brown and Greg Russeau are

1749
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 2: two players entering year three, and I think there are

1750
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:32,559
Speaker 2: high hopes that both of those guys games will reach

1751
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 2: critical mass. And if it does, now you've got a

1752
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 2: three man rotation of proven quarterback pressure guys in Rousseau,

1753
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 2: Leonard Floyd, and Von Miller when he returns. That's a

1754
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 2: heck of a rotation. Not to mention, you can kick

1755
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 2: Russeau inside, put Floyd and Miller on the edges and

1756
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:51,680
Speaker 2: sit him next to at Oliver and say go get them.

1757
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, who cares who you kick inside?

1758
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:54,400
Speaker 3: But you get those three guys on the field at

1759
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 3: the same time with ed and you got some guys

1760
01:26:57,920 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 3: that can really scoot. And even if you do get

1761
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:02,080
Speaker 3: a guy like Mahomes who can get out of the

1762
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 3: pocket and start to run, there's three of those four

1763
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:06,720
Speaker 3: guys that can outrun Mahomes.

1764
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 1: So that's that's big. And in a league, I get it.

1765
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 3: I mean, we've talked about all it's a throwing league,

1766
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:17,720
Speaker 3: throwing league, throwing leads, So you gotta have a pass rush,

1767
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:19,800
Speaker 3: you gotta have athletes, you gota guys. But if this

1768
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:24,160
Speaker 3: club there's and it's like this for every club, but

1769
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 3: this club really was deficient in these last year. Not deficient,

1770
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:30,880
Speaker 3: but substandard for an elite club like they were. They

1771
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:33,879
Speaker 3: turned it over too much, they dropped too many passes,

1772
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:36,519
Speaker 3: and their pass rush was good but not great. Without

1773
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 3: von Miller, their pass rush dropped completely out of the

1774
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 3: top ten in those seven games von Miller was out

1775
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 3: last year, it dropped off a ledge. So if you

1776
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:54,800
Speaker 3: get those three things right, this club becomes wow, even

1777
01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 3: way better than a thirteen and three club that only

1778
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:02,160
Speaker 3: lost by three games by eight points total. So if

1779
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:05,400
Speaker 3: this team takes a step forward from that spot because

1780
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:10,800
Speaker 3: they can just fix their own little little loose ends, goodness, gracious.

1781
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 2: Break time for us here some final thoughts on the tweet.

1782
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:14,960
Speaker 2: Sheeet when we're back here on one Bill's Live. Stay

1783
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:21,280
Speaker 2: tuned all right back here on One Bill's Live. Only

1784
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 2: got a less than a minute to tell you. One

1785
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:26,840
Speaker 2: of our loyal listeners of the show, Rick drove all

1786
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:29,120
Speaker 2: the way in from Perry to deliver these to us.

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01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:29,880
Speaker 7: Uh.

1788
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 2: We all know what Steve says on the show all

1789
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 2: the time about the Bills when they get to the playoffs,

1790
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:38,479
Speaker 2: they just need to play well on that day. Well,

1791
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:40,599
Speaker 2: apparently he said it so much.

1792
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 1: Guy put it.

1793
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:47,679
Speaker 3: You need to play well on that day in quotation

1794
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:50,400
Speaker 3: marks and it says Steve Tasker one Bill's Live, thank you.

1795
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:54,759
Speaker 2: It is uh, it is officially a thing. So now Steve,

1796
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:56,719
Speaker 2: you just you know, for our TV viewing.

1797
01:28:56,720 --> 01:28:58,839
Speaker 1: Way, well on that day.

1798
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 2: You just hold the shirt up and you don't have

1799
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 2: to say it anymore. All right, that'll do it for

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Speaker 2: a Monday edition, Steve, and I'll see tomorrow and one

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