WEBVTT - Episode 480 w/ Arrested Development 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:15.920 And this drinks chess, motherfucking podcast makes he's a legends 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:16.919 every Queens rapper. 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:18.800 He ain't agreed as your boy in O r E. 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:21.959 He's a Miami hip hop pioneer. What up his dj 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:22.680 E f N? 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:25.240 Together they drink it up with some of the biggest 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:27.280 players you me and the most. 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:31.520 Professional unprofessional podcast and your number one source for drunk 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:32.479 drinks chants. 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:34.800 Mother posty days, New Year CST. 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:36.840 It's time for drink Champs. 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:44.960 Drink up mother? What a good bee hoping to me? 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:46.320 This is your boy n A O n A A 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:48.960 one up his dj E f N and it's drink Champs. Yeah. 0:00:57.160 --> 0:00:59.440 And when we started this show, we started this by 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:02.120 saying that we wanted to give flowers to the people 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:02.760 who came before. 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:04.319 So people who paved the way for us. 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:07.760 But people who are set, you know, all their market 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:08.760 in this hip hop game. 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:09.560 You know what I mean? 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:12.680 Uh, these people in front of us are icons. They 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:15.240 are more than legends. They are tycoons. I was so 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:18.240 happy when we get to call that we get a chance. 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:19.600 To interview us. So I want to do something. 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:21.840 I want to do something personally, because we never had 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:22.280 more than. 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:26.119 Three artists at the time. So I want to pass 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:27.880 them and let them introduce theyselves. 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:31.120 We know the name of the rest of developmental know, 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:37.440 I go create it to a question that to this, 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:39.080 but I want everybody to introduce theyselves. 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:40.440 You know what I'm saying. You gotta talk to the 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:49.800 ladies because we were Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's why I land, right, Okay, 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:57.600 let's go, okay, okay, yeah, JJ buget from the at LS. 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:00.400 What's up? 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:02.720 This is for Rita a baby? 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:10.639 Oh la okay, I'm one love okay, and speech from 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:16.040 everywhere from because when you google you, it says Milwaukee, 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:18.720 but you lived in Atlanta, but you got a soul 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:19.320 named Tennessee. 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:19.560 I was. 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:26.799 So, so let me ask all of y'all collectively as 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:30.760 a group, how much do we hate to show arrested development? 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:46.480 You're correct? 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:47.200 Google? 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:51.240 And that came up first, like me, bother. It bothered 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:53.120 me so much. I was cursing about I don't even 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:54.640 notice it, you. 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:55.160 Never saw it. 0:02:55.840 --> 0:03:02.600 I was like them, we were talking about that earlier, right, 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:06.520 because actually my very first album. 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:09.520 Was called component Oriegga right. 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:12.720 And and what I didn't know is when I signed 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:15.399 my name, excuse me, when I signed for the deal, 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:16.359 I signed my name. 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:19.720 So that's why my next album, if you look at it, 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:21.200 says n On right. 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:23.240 Because I was in the process of buying back by name. 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:26.120 I didn't even know you could sell your name. I 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:28.600 would say, that's how naive I was. So let me 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:29.120 ask y'all. 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:31.480 Because you guys got Grammys, we're gonna go through all that. 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:35.880 But how did like because I asked g Depp right, 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:37.680 and g Depp was sitting right here and Lil Wayne 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:39.840 had sampled this record, and I said, Gepp, how did 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:41.640 you feel about that? And he said, on one hand, 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:46.120 he enjoyed it because it was a new generation paying homage, right, 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:48.560 But on on another hand, they didn't even have to 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:50.560 clear it with him. So I want to ask all 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:52.960 of y'all, like, you know, because you're all arrested Development, 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:54.120 is that? 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:54.360 Like? 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:57.360 How does how did that feel? When you first heard? It? 0:03:57.480 --> 0:03:59.800 Felt confusing because we heard it at the Super Bowl 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:01.160 so day, many many years ago. 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:04.000 Wow, And the announcer said, and. 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:07.640 Coming up next is arrested Developership and I'm looking like, no, 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:08.440 we ain't coming up. 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:09.880 So I didn't get it. 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:13.040 And it was a TV show, so I was confused 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:15.320 to announce the TV show at that day, never announced it. 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:17.320 First time announced it. They were saying it was coming 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:19.560 on Monday or whatever, or tonight. Actually they were saying 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:20.320 it was coming on tonight. 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:23.080 And I was confused and so much the commentators on 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:25.320 the super Bowl it was like you about the band, 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:27.840 and it's like, no, it's a TV show. And so 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:30.159 I found out that way and I was like, what's 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:31.760 going on, Like I never heard of this. I don't 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:34.080 know what's going on. So yeah, then we we sued them. 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:36.400 Right, oh yeah, all right, so look look so I 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:38.000 would make you feel better, let me go away. 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:38.640 I feel better. 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:42.240 I didn't know my record Superdug was in answerage who 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:43.800 I watched Entourage. 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:47.720 So yeah, so listen, everybody feel good. We don't like 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:53.600 the result of that lawsuit, were you. 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:54.640 We settled out of court. 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:57.360 We settled out of court, but they we had the 0:04:57.440 --> 0:05:01.400 name trademark, so they want supposed you know, that we 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:02.680 had a trademark. 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:04.760 They were not supposed to use it. They just used 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:05.280 it anyway. 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:07.800 Wow, And they figured we was broke, that we had 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:09.880 no way, you know, no means of fighting it, and 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:11.680 so we was like, yeah, we had to go to 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:12.360 court and everything. 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:15.599 But for kids who's listening. 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:19.479 That's something that you have to actually know, like there's 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:21.760 other people who would come and take your name. You 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:23.880 have to fight for it, especially if it's something that 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:26.000 you noted his work fight for I'm glad to hear. 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:32.400 That, make sure. So so it's it's amicable. It's amicable. 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:35.920 It's able now, yes, now it was. It was weird 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:39.120 at first though, for real, I still don't like the show. 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:49.080 Exactly. A little bit. 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:51.599 A little bit of the first. 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:53.400 Episode and they made a joke about Babo j. I 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:55.240 don't know if y'all don't know, they made a joke 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:58.960 about one of our member that's our brothers recipes. 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:02.720 J Yeah, and he was mean his grandfather, right. 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:04.400 It means his grandfather. 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:07.280 Didn't do what they were doing. 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:08.880 They knew what they were doing exactly. 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:11.320 But yeah, they made a few jokes about us a 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:14.520 couple episodes, just little you know, little sucks, you know 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:14.920 what I'm saying. 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:15.880 Yeah, basically. 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:17.600 So, so so let me ask you all this this 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:21.680 famous big small line. It might sound cliche, but every time, 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:23.920 you know, you get to hear you know, like a 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:25.800 bad buddy doing a Super Bowl and you get to 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:28.960 hear like you know, Kendrick, you know great race in 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:31.039 these days. Did you ever think that hip hop would 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:31.600 make it this far? 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:34.559 You know what that is a great question. 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:36.080 Yeah, not for me. 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:38.160 I didn't think it would make it, like meaning the 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:39.840 super Bowl. You know what I'm saying, because I mean 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:42.040 at that time for me, Michael Jackson. 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:41.960 That's what. 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:45.120 Okay, So now I didn't I didn't think it would 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:47.040 do the super Bowl. I knew, I knew it. I 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:48.600 knew it should make it. Put it that way, you 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:50.280 know what I'm saying. But yeah, what are you think? 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:55.080 I agree? But you said I didn't think it would 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:56.279 make it to the high school. 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:58.280 It got to me it kind of got broad you 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:01.200 know where you know, everything was kind of being called 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:04.640 hip hop, and so it was being laid indoors that 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:08.000 you know, what we thought was hip hop shouldn't necessarily 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:10.160 be in hip hop. But I feel the same like 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:12.240 a version of hip hop that i'mbly. 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:14.440 So I didn't think it was, you know, to the extent. 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:18.840 You know it's since you want to say, Okay, you 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:21.800 know what's talk about me is if you asked me 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:24.000 that question, I would think it was going that far 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:27.480 because of you guys, Because I'm like you know what 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:32.000 I mean, I'm forty eight, right, forty eight, so I'm 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:34.480 like maybe a little younger, but like when I see 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:38.160 y'all have that melodic, yeah, that sound that you knew 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:39.640 it was still hip hop, like for lack of a 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:41.240 better term, like that's where like. 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:43.600 Nate Doggs and you know, the Tea Pains kind of 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:44.440 get that style from. 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:46.960 Like the first time I ever see a melodic hip 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:49.360 hop song that was still a hip hop. 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:59.480 Song was you guys? So that's crazy if you ask 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:00.560 me that out of the question. 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:08.440 But but all right, boom moving on. Yeah, the Grammys, 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:13.080 right like you guys got too, we got to Grammy 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:13.600 you got. 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:24.480 I'm sorry kids today that I'm sorry. I know some 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:26.120 of some of you know and some of you and 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:30.600 a lot of them. Listen, We're ain't a Grammy back then, 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:35.800 it's right, that was opening doors. 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:40.959 Yeah, yeah, they were not only representing black people, but 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:45.280 but you also represent a whole genre of music. So 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:48.640 it wasn't popular and then and then at that time 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:52.680 you might have faced the backlash from your own peers. 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:56.199 So so so describe to me, anybody who wanted to 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:58.600 take this question, how was that moment in time. 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:04.240 It was crazy. So we were up against Billy ray Cires. 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:08.959 Like Billy was it Chris Cross maybe Chris Cross forget. 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:09.880 Somebody else. 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:16.679 Before they had category, had hit category, they had hip hop. 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:23.960 Yeah they did. We got best best okay, So yeah 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:25.960 the first time, I think, yeah, we were first rap. 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:30.200 So we honestly thought that Billy ray Cyrus is gonna 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:33.400 get it the best Cyrus pops, right okay. And so 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:34.959 then they called our name and we were like what 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:38.520 were just finished performing? And we went back out. It 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:41.400 was just amazing, Like I mean, such an honor because 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:44.000 people have been in the industry for years, legends, legends, 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:47.000 they've never won Grande and then for our first time 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:48.760 out and I just so happened to be sixteen at 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:53.920 the time. We were all young in the early twenties, 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:54.920 and it was just a blessing. 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:56.880 And I believe that's the first time they televised it 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:59.600 as well, so we got to see y'all eat. 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:00.840 It's a good point. 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:03.719 I think Fresh Prince in the wont something. But it 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:06.360 wasn't television they were. 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:08.559 Did they boycott that one? You know, I gotta be 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:12.040 confused when I when I that everybody in hip hop 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:14.640 tried to boycott. I think it was two. 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:16.439 I think it was one with Will Smith and on 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:20.400 the stage, and I think I think that's two separate ones. 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:22.199 And I think when people bring that up, I think 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:23.280 they mixed up the two. 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:26.800 I don't think willing them was boycott necessarily. Maybe they was, 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:29.599 but I forgot about it on our show, and we 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:31.920 just forgot exactly. 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:34.640 Yeah, they gave it to him backstage. 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:36.720 They gave it to him backstage, Yeah, exactly. 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:40.000 If you looked the footage from ours, you could tell 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:41.880 it was like part of the first ones. 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:47.160 Yeah, yeah, right, But looking at it, looking at the 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:49.679 Grammy shows from now to, do you see a more 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:53.720 representation of the culture in it or That's. 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:54.719 A great question to me. 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:58.640 I feel like it can't really be said that it 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:01.920 represents the culture perfectly everybody where it needs to be 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:04.800 because tribes never won. I mean, so many people have 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:07.040 never won a Grammy, you know what I'm saying. 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:09.320 They get so much respect, right, I would say Nas 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:11.160 didn't win one, but he won one, and we said. 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:14.280 Yeah, he won one, his newer stuff, right right, So yeah, so. 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:17.000 I can't say we have. 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:20.920 That was on the Grammy campaign and he's let them 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:21.600 have it, Uh. 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:31.439 Wonder he's on he's like a little bit control all. 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:39.160 But but I think that in my opinion, right, I 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:41.800 think that hip hop is always just wanted a placements 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:45.080 like like like like like when you when you see 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:48.000 the rock and Roll Hall of Fame, right, yea, we 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:51.360 know that's that's not ours right exactly, but we know 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:53.880 it's still somewhat of an ironer like and we're going 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:58.960 to salute We're going to sute him publican, I think 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:02.880 that hip hop lead a full fledged awards show, like 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:07.480 we had to Bet Awards. Everyone about it, but like 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:10.920 like I mean, where it's where it's really the artist controls, 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:15.559 not not not VC, not adventure capitalist? 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:16.719 What do you what do you guys think? 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:16.959 For me? 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:19.840 Definitely that's exactly what question. 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:20.200 I mean. 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:23.880 The original Source Awards was Source Awards was don't but 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:26.400 Zino and they've made we all owe your apology. 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:30.800 We all the original source. Yes, they did a great job. 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:32.800 We just did. 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:35.240 The system was a great job made. 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:39.400 I think the people because I was it little John, 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:41.400 I forgot who who said it just recently was like, Yo, 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:44.640 we really don't have a platform where we're saluting ourselves. 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:46.800 Like like that, and I agree with that. 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:48.640 I think we're ready now. 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:51.360 I think we're ready for something like that because the 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:53.480 conversation is just bubbling and hovering. 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:56.560 We're ready for something like that now. Yeah, we're sure 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:58.080 enough multi generational now. 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:02.320 I think we're mature enough to Yeah, because we're talking 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:03.720 about it, but we can make it happen. 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:06.840 Yeah, even with old. 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:10.800 You know what I'm saying, even with the committees right, 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:13.959 Like I don't know who these committees are, right, the 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:16.719 community that people are, But what if this guy is 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:18.600 a person that's just a risk guy that owns toys 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:27.360 arrest and I know old school toys arrest, know, Like. 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:30.440 That's what I'm saying, Like like because because they never. 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:33.520 Revealed who's in these committees, who actually does these vote tracts? 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:37.240 So I wouldn't mind if it's always been off peers 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:40.640 like like like like exactly, credible artist who's been through it. 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:43.800 Maybe even when a Grammy, he's a credible artist that 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:45.600 we respect and they be in charge. 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:47.440 Like when you said Q Tip earlier, I. 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:49.520 Thought of that automatically because I believe you Tip was 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:51.160 mad at like what I believe it was cute, Tip, 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:57.680 I forget what remember that he's credible, incredible, Like, yeah, 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:00.839 so do you think that that would that that's what 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:01.200 we need. 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:03.560 We need our own committee, without a doubt. 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:07.559 I think also, to be fair, hip hop is not 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:09.880 a monolith. It's not just one thing. I think that's 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:11.359 one of the things that's missing. 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:14.079 Throughout the life of hip hop is that, you know, 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:17.920 in the beginning, everything was different. You had the West 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:20.000 Coast to East Cote, and everything that popped up was 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:23.200 so unique that that was kind of celebrated because it 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:24.040 was all hip hop. 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:27.760 Now you have such a wide variety of what is. 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:31.000 Considered hip hop that isn't always represented in the mainstream, 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:33.280 and you need to celebrate at all. 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:35.480 So if you had something like that, you can have the. 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:38.320 Categories and not that that's been the old now that 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:40.920 you don't have to be too old to be a 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:41.680 hip hop no more. 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:44.920 We had ghost based on this show, and that's what 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:46.880 he was trying to say. I believe he said it 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:48.520 like a better version. 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:51.480 He said, Yo, it's. 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:53.440 Messed up to say like hip hop and then you 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:55.800 go morn and you see das music, you see like, 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:58.560 you know, a snapping music. He said, there should be 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:01.040 different versions of hip hops like. 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:04.320 You know, like sub genres, genres we deserve that. 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:06.760 I mean, our new album is called adult contemporary hip 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:09.280 hop because of that, we felt like there needed to 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:11.960 be more, you know, split it up, you know what 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:13.640 I'm saying, Like it's like talking. 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:16.000 To your pres Yes that I mean, I mean, I 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:17.920 mean that's why like four four four is one of 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:20.480 my favorite jay z Holbem is because like and that's 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:24.560 and that goes against his his original albums is because like, 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:25.400 I like who. 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:27.160 He as is as a black man. 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:31.200 Now he developed and I identify with that more like 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:33.080 like being in the streets when we me not be 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:35.160 in the streets. I can't identify with that. So I 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:39.480 love I love like people making should that genre music 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:39.960 be called that? 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:40.320 Adult? 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:43.000 I personally love it. 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:43.880 It's dope. 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:46.560 I think I think there needs to be different categories, 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:49.480 whether it's adult contemporary hip hop or anything else. And 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:52.400 then whether you know, whatever the newer styles of hip 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:55.360 hop is, that's cool, but like have a few different 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:57.840 categories because that makes sense to me. You know, a 0:15:57.920 --> 0:15:59.920 lot of young people ain't vibing with what we're vibing with, 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:01.560 you know what I'm saying, and they feel left out 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:04.360 when it's only when the discussion is about whatever we're like, 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:05.240 you know what I'm saying. 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:11.000 Has a facilion genre like cre like that to discard 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:14.240 whatever they think is old or different like everything else. 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:15.920 Right, Yeah, that's cool. 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:19.280 But but but but we would give them their lane too. 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:23.680 They would have the new hip I will say, drill lane. 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:26.600 But then there's a lot of like you need a 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:31.520 committee for that though, something and and and that's something 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:36.560 I always wanted to ask, because like, do you guys 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:39.840 win in the Grammar? You guys with like conscious music, 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:42.320 you never like, you know, like winning the Grammy. I 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:44.800 can imagine the knights, the parties you guys are inviting to, 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:47.760 especially back then, it's probably cocaine everywhere. 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:50.000 You know what I'm saying. And you know, I can imagine. 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:56.440 But you guys stuck with your guns. I mean, but 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:59.760 I imagine because I mean those days different, that's any murk. 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:06.080 How did y'all maintain because you've. 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:09.280 Never heard like nothing like not like when they're out 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:11.560 here getting pulled over some speed in Like, how did 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:15.720 y'all maintain that? No Instagram and y'all just got. 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:16.119 Away with it. 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:23.719 So we just I can't speak for Rocks we never 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:30.480 really we don't drink smoke. Ross were kind of seeing but. 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:44.920 Right, so yeah, we just I think for us, we 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:47.800 were so busy and just focused on what we were, 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:51.159 you know, just the whole energy of the group, you know, 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:54.480 and we were representing the black community, all these different 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:56.600 facets of it, you know what I mean, and the 0:17:56.760 --> 0:17:58.280 music just life music. 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:00.720 We just wanted to stay in that vibrant energy. 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:03.040 And then we were able to do shows with like 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:05.880 we did a show like Lenny Kravis came up staying 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:06.760 to stay to us. 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:09.359 Then we did like a whole tour with all. 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:11.960 These African artists, a lot of stuff that jazz festivals, 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:12.320 we went. 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:15.200 On, tour, folk festivals, festivals, a lot of stuff. 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:18.080 Artists weren't able to do at the time. 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:19.840 We were we were the only ones able to do it, 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:20.840 the only ones. 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:23.359 So yeah, and I was like, way too y'all to 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:24.480 be doing any type of drugs. 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:31.919 Let me let me keep it real. 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:34.000 I won't say any names, but there was there was 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:37.000 people in the group struggling, you know what I'm saying, 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:40.440 with addiction and things like that. We we were dealing 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:43.800 with that, but it just it wasn't what we were 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:46.440 striving to like chase after a du but there was 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:48.399 you know, some real things going on, but we just 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:51.240 you know, we was the ones trying to save everybody 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:53.159 from it, and like, you know, let's let's keep it 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:56.200 focused on what we striving to do, because going. 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:58.720 We just found a lot of that out recently. We 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:02.000 didn't even know you in that time that they were struggling. 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:03.280 Yeah, at least some of them. 0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:06.000 He realized one of the worst druggs in the world. 0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:06.360 Is fame. 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:12.760 And the most addictive. 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:15.560 Yeah, Like I say this all the time. 0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:17.960 It's hard being the person on Monday and not being 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:20.520 that person on win hard. 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:22.160 And vice versus some people. 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:25.000 So some people chase that fame and they chase they 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:27.480 chase it and instead of chasing the art, you know. 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:29.639 What I'm saying, So like and that's that's I think 0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:30.920 that's the best way to say it. 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:33.920 Like for me, I was always trying to just focus 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:36.560 on the art, like, stay focused on the art despite 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:39.200 these distractions that was going on at certain little times 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:41.439 in our in our group, you know, in our tribe. 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:43.399 Well, I know one thing that kept me grounded to 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:46.200 whenever I remember after we wanted the Grammys, I came home. 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:47.960 My mom was like, I need you to walk down 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:49.040 to the corner and give me some was. 0:19:50.520 --> 0:20:00.200 Mama kept it real, But I'm sure it's all also 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:02.800 just as difficult to be to want to be that 0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:05.760 example to people and to be in that positive lane, 0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:07.080 that has to be just so difficult. 0:20:07.359 --> 0:20:12.320 Yeah, especially at that time. But I got the battle 0:20:12.320 --> 0:20:15.520 in the n w A right like it was. 0:20:15.880 --> 0:20:16.480 Well, I'll tell you this. 0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:20.240 I come from Milwaukee, and the disparities between black and 0:20:20.280 --> 0:20:22.160 white was so clear cut in Milwaukee. 0:20:22.560 --> 0:20:23.240 We're I'm raised. 0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:24.600 It was known. 0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:26.920 Statistically as the worst place for black people to grow 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:27.159 up in. 0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:28.600 Wow, I heard you say that. 0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:32.600 Yeah, And so I did see the disparities. 0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:36.200 And my mom and dad were both civil rights leaders, 0:20:36.240 --> 0:20:38.199 so my mom owned still owns to this. 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:40.880 Day, biggest black publication there you go, the biggest. 0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:42.520 Black publication in all of Wisconsin. 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:50.440 And so for me, I had this burning passion to 0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:53.840 bring other things to the table for hip hop, like Okay, 0:20:53.920 --> 0:20:56.399 we got this, we got that, we got this, Now 0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:59.040 we need this part too, you know what I'm saying. 0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:01.600 And that's that was a big thing. So my point 0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:04.120 is is not being distracted just like, Okay. 0:21:04.000 --> 0:21:04.760 We're on that mission. 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:05.600 We was on that mission. 0:21:05.680 --> 0:21:07.880 So as far as how hard it was, it was hard, 0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:09.720 but it was also the passion we had it since 0:21:09.840 --> 0:21:10.119 day one. 0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:10.760 You know what I'm saying. 0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:13.640 It wasn't like, yeah, I was gonna say the other 0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:14.440 thing is it was. 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:16.760 It was definitely our backgrounds how we came up, Like 0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:20.080 my dad's a pastor, my mom you know, like these 0:21:20.200 --> 0:21:21.080 community people. 0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:25.040 I hooked up with them. Yep, more community people, more 0:21:25.080 --> 0:21:25.840 community people. 0:21:26.200 --> 0:21:30.840 She's mom was a dancing truck helping our community, right exactly. 0:21:31.400 --> 0:21:33.320 The stuff was coming at us, but it wasn't. 0:21:34.359 --> 0:21:36.640 And think about what we was doing back in those days, 0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:40.880 like when we first started, we would do sound check, 0:21:41.119 --> 0:21:44.520 leave sound check and go where y'all remember community center, 0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:47.000 two community centers. We go to the projects. We would 0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:49.000 go to the projects and speak about things there. We 0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:51.040 go to the homeless shelters and speak about things that. 0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:54.399 We had two tours going on simultaneously. One tour was 0:21:54.480 --> 0:21:56.879 the shows at the night and then we had a 0:21:56.920 --> 0:21:58.800 whole other person named Dearrel who used to work with 0:21:58.840 --> 0:22:02.120 Bob Marla. She she was in charge of making sure 0:22:02.160 --> 0:22:05.840 we were going to the community centers every day every day, 0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:08.640 so tours like living that. You know what I'm saying, 0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:12.240 so non stop, NonStop, and we all you know, helped 0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:13.399 us focus, you know, to what. 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:16.320 Speech was saying about and rise about the upbringing. 0:22:16.600 --> 0:22:18.560 My mom was one of the first black on dance 0:22:18.560 --> 0:22:22.560 schools owners in the States, so I grew up with 0:22:22.640 --> 0:22:23.159 the artists and. 0:22:23.280 --> 0:22:26.040 Just you know, coming from a t L. Being born 0:22:26.080 --> 0:22:29.880 in the Swats, we had a level of black xcents. 0:22:32.160 --> 0:22:32.360 Yeah. 0:22:32.400 --> 0:22:34.360 Well Sea Low used to take dance from my mom. 0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:36.320 My mother talked him tapping jail. 0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:38.879 Yeah, I went to school Sleeping Grown. 0:22:41.320 --> 0:22:44.280 Yeah, so shout out to Sea Loan and Sleeping Ground 0:22:44.320 --> 0:22:45.720 went to We went to there together. 0:22:46.440 --> 0:22:48.600 Yeah, so we used to He was in the dance group. 0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:52.119 I was in dance room a lot of and we go. 0:22:52.240 --> 0:22:55.240 Wave was in that grop like it's just the whole 0:22:55.880 --> 0:22:57.560 at L, you know what I mean. 0:22:59.600 --> 0:23:01.960 Yeah, I remember going to a c L and please 0:23:02.000 --> 0:23:04.119 people from at I don't kill me. Well, I remember 0:23:04.280 --> 0:23:06.200 back then and I used to say. 0:23:06.040 --> 0:23:08.240 It's Brooklyn in the house. People were. 0:23:09.800 --> 0:23:12.800 Because I remember ATL at one point didn't have an identity. 0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:16.879 Was like when you look at it now, like I remember, uh, 0:23:18.080 --> 0:23:20.880 I think I think he was on uh be Hot 0:23:21.040 --> 0:23:23.720 be High TV and you're saying that I couldn't go 0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:27.119 to people with a record label because they had no no. 0:23:27.280 --> 0:23:28.360 No, nothing in Atlanta. 0:23:28.680 --> 0:23:31.200 And I remember just looking at it now, like every 0:23:31.240 --> 0:23:32.000 record label. 0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:32.520 In the world. 0:23:34.560 --> 0:23:37.440 So I want to shout out some artists like Atlanta 0:23:37.600 --> 0:23:40.000 did have a sound, but it was just I think 0:23:40.040 --> 0:23:43.600 it was just more regional local at the time when 0:23:43.640 --> 0:23:45.680 we came out and kund Of exploded because it was 0:23:45.960 --> 0:23:51.080 t O C. Criss Cross, I think we were all 0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:51.960 around the same time. 0:23:52.359 --> 0:23:57.359 But Sammy, Sam, Hitman Sam and Sam right in the 0:23:57.440 --> 0:24:07.520 dream him, Yes, it. 0:24:07.600 --> 0:24:09.760 Was a lot of that's the sound we were saying 0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:15.600 the South, Oh yeah, from from because. 0:24:17.800 --> 0:24:18.560 From someone else, but. 0:24:18.640 --> 0:24:20.480 He yeah, I think he was from New York originally, 0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:22.880 I think, and then he came down to the land, 0:24:22.960 --> 0:24:23.679 but he was doing this. 0:24:25.359 --> 0:24:25.760 Every day. 0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:29.280 But he made his mark in the at so yeah, 0:24:29.359 --> 0:24:32.399 so they you know, we definitely had a sound and 0:24:32.480 --> 0:24:35.720 then he was Yeah, but it was just not as. 0:24:35.840 --> 0:24:39.320 Global, but it wasn't labels at that labels. 0:24:39.760 --> 0:24:42.320 Shout out to the DJ dj is in Atlanta. 0:24:42.440 --> 0:24:45.720 They created like a culture around our music and our 0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:46.240 sound that. 0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:48.000 Was a very specific DJ smurf. 0:24:48.240 --> 0:24:52.040 Yes, you know, what I'm saying sort of evolution of that. 0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:53.760 I feel like I saw the episode. 0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:55.880 Of that because I felt like it was so much 0:24:55.960 --> 0:24:59.160 time that they was gonna, you know, keeping to say 0:24:59.200 --> 0:25:01.800 like they're from over here, like they're like like it 0:25:01.920 --> 0:25:03.440 was one thing for short deep for certain I know 0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:06.360 this is so simplistic, but it was the waffle House. 0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:10.119 We didn't have to We're like, like, you got a 0:25:10.160 --> 0:25:11.440 club at the fucking. 0:25:13.560 --> 0:25:16.359 Like the Flex Club going on to me like this 0:25:16.520 --> 0:25:18.520 leaving the show was like they're like, they're like, where 0:25:18.560 --> 0:25:18.960 you're going. 0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:20.600 We were like, yeah, where you're going? 0:25:20.600 --> 0:25:22.359 And they said the waffle House and was like they 0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:24.640 were saying that like it was something to Julian. 0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:31.480 And then even the strip clubs like when when what 0:25:31.720 --> 0:25:34.879 was it? Players Club? When when? When we heard that, 0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:36.520 we were like us in New York, we were like, 0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:37.840 wait a minute, you'll throw money. 0:25:38.160 --> 0:25:40.240 We were like talking about the German's Club, the. 0:25:40.280 --> 0:25:49.520 Gentleman's Club that I never seen. 0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:51.520 That's the first time in Atlanta and then I came 0:25:51.520 --> 0:25:53.560 to Miami, but it was the first time where they 0:25:54.000 --> 0:26:00.480 chilled like they and they were eating, how they were 0:26:00.520 --> 0:26:02.680 breaking they records they were like and it was a 0:26:02.760 --> 0:26:06.680 certain type of job I believe Jamaine called the strip 0:26:06.760 --> 0:26:09.240 club music. He's like, there's also strip club music that's 0:26:09.320 --> 0:26:10.720 just made for just strip clubs. 0:26:10.760 --> 0:26:11.639 But I had never seen that. 0:26:11.920 --> 0:26:17.040 Yeah, but let me actually ask you, right, because from Milwaukee. Yeah, 0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:21.520 I believe you said that. The day you graduated, I left, 0:26:21.800 --> 0:26:24.920 someone pulled out a gun on you. Facts and you 0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:28.399 had left. Yeah, but at the time, Atlanta is not 0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:30.800 the place that it is now. What made you choose 0:26:30.840 --> 0:26:32.479 Atlanta of everywhere else you could have went? 0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:35.360 So I used to spend all my summers in Tennessee. 0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:39.040 My grandmother's from there, my father's from there, everybody on 0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:39.919 my father's side, So. 0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:41.399 I loved it. 0:26:41.560 --> 0:26:42.760 I fell in love with the South. 0:26:42.840 --> 0:26:48.480 I fell in love with the community, the self determination, 0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:51.440 like people was growing their own foods. They was poor, 0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:55.160 but they were able to barter and make things happen, 0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:57.480 and it was all in the community. I fell in 0:26:57.560 --> 0:26:57.960 love with that. 0:26:58.160 --> 0:26:58.720 So when I. 0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:02.560 Graduated high school, which I did horribly in high school, 0:27:02.560 --> 0:27:04.200 so I knew I needed to do something different in 0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:05.760 my life because I wasn't going anywhere. 0:27:05.880 --> 0:27:09.520 And I got this gun pulled on me at my graduation. 0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:12.639 And I said the actually graduation after you left. 0:27:12.560 --> 0:27:19.159 After I, and so I said, you know what if 0:27:19.160 --> 0:27:21.000 I don't. If I don't leave here, I'm not gonna. 0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:24.040 I think I won't make it because stuff was getting tight, 0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:27.480 and so I I wanted to go down south. So 0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:30.360 I went to Atlanta because Atlanta was it had first 0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:32.400 of all school, which is where I met Headliner, who 0:27:32.480 --> 0:27:34.880 was the first person I brought into the group was Headliner. 0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:39.000 He we met at Art Institute of Atlanta. So it 0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:42.800 was the one place that my low grade point average, 0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:45.200 which was a zero point nine, but my low grade 0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:47.640 point average could get into this school, the only school 0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:55.040 I could think of. So that's Atlanta was the place 0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:56.960 to come. Not to mention, it was a lot of 0:27:57.000 --> 0:27:59.520 progressive stuff coming up in Atlanta. It was like a 0:27:59.560 --> 0:28:02.920 little Africa like it was very progressive, Like people were 0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:04.159 thinking differently in Atlanta. 0:28:04.320 --> 0:28:08.159 So yeah, you know, because what it is now is 0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:11.880 like it's almost baby Wakanda. 0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:16.520 That's what it was. Even more we didn't get to 0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:18.960 see that. Yeah, yeah it was. It was. 0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:21.720 It was a lot of like revolutionary stuff going on there, 0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:25.080 like the main community we grew up in, or at 0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:26.520 least I could speak for me and Headliner. 0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:28.399 We spent most of our time in West End. Well, 0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:31.320 West End is a very cultural center of Atlanta. 0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:35.240 All the Rosters, all the Africans, a lot of you know, 0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:38.800 Nation of Islam, Shrine of the Black Madonna, like all 0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:41.080 of these kind of like landmark. 0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:44.480 Places and so that's the area. And of course the 0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:48.760 HBCUs all of that exactly vegetarian. 0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:51.800 So so all of these places was where we used 0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:53.840 to hang out at. So it was sort of our 0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:55.880 like place to be, you know, it's where we felt 0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:58.400 the most comfortable, at the West End and the West End, 0:28:58.480 --> 0:29:00.200 West End which is still a dope culture there. 0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:03.520 So did it really take y' all three years, five months, 0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:06.360 two days, and did wow? 0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:08.280 It was like it's got to be true. 0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:10.760 Yeah. 0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:11.160 Yeah. 0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:13.320 And the evolution of it all, it was really fun. 0:29:13.400 --> 0:29:16.080 So I mass speech and headliner, So my Ski and 0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:17.160 Bird we got a shout out. 0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:19.600 We got to shout out Ian birt Atlanta. 0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:23.240 I mean, if you were doing music in the nineties 0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:26.440 and and then blessed or touch it, it happened in 0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:30.080 the eighties, eighties, I mean speeching with eighty eight eighty nine. 0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:33.240 I was thirteen when I joined the group. My sister 0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:38.000 was offered the opportunity to dance, she didn't want to 0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:38.200 do it. 0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:41.200 So they want to dances, right, Yeah, I want her 0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:41.640 to dances. 0:29:41.880 --> 0:29:44.240 I went to the audition. I look because I love Come. 0:29:44.440 --> 0:29:53.600 I was dressed like come. We all did our audition 0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:55.480 and then we were together for a while. Then we 0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:59.200 had some people nicer ashtrak They came in some other dances, 0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:01.880 and then we met Rise and. 0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:04.120 Engaged. 0:30:04.240 --> 0:30:05.280 They were engaged. 0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:08.000 I think you all was engaged at the time we 0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:08.680 were working on it. 0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:14.080 Yeah, I mean, and when it was at a step 0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:15.760 show of Greeks, that's what we meant. 0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:21.440 Stuff we got booed on that show. We did miss 0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:25.360 the window we got, but it was ahead of his time. 0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:28.600 Atlanta was on a certain general I think it was 0:30:28.600 --> 0:30:32.760 ahead of his time. And and so for us, we 0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:35.800 were just doing crazy stuff like that they didn't get. 0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:39.080 And so yeah, they like, did you consider what you 0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:40.480 were doing? Experimenting? 0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:43.080 Like very much. So, But I'll say this, I got 0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:43.600 a shout. 0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:45.840 Out Dayla Soul because when they released three Feet High, 0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:48.240 or even when they released plug Tuning and stuff like that, 0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:50.440 they gave us permission. 0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:51.800 I didn't know them, but I'm saying. 0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:55.200 Meaning when they did it, it was like, okay, we 0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:57.920 could go further than because it worked and it. 0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:00.880 Was they were different and it worked, different worked. 0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:02.880 And it was dope, right, And so I always tell them. 0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:04.400 I tell them this all the time. And I used 0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:06.840 to call pass back then. I got his number from 0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:09.080 a sister named Kat and I would you want to. 0:31:09.080 --> 0:31:09.800 Be on Tommy boy? 0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:14.200 You can imagine? Was like, no, you don't want that. 0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:21.920 So it was like, no, do something different. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:25.080 So you was raised Muslim? I was in California. 0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:29.120 Yes, Okay, my father is ma'am Okay, lame hot spun 0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:29.800 that's right. 0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:32.000 Mass Wow. 0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:35.760 And if we just finished the mass it there, We've 0:31:35.760 --> 0:31:38.440 been building it. He's been building it since I was 0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:42.280 in school there. It's just clear Muhammed and it's now 0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:44.880 a beautiful school. 0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:46.760 And Moss and he's. 0:31:50.800 --> 0:31:56.520 So dad yeah and I'm old, he's ninety four, like. 0:31:58.240 --> 0:31:59.080 Wow, yeah, let's make it. 0:32:04.840 --> 0:32:07.280 Yeah, because what was it? 0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:10.080 What was the fight for the religion? It was the 0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:11.080 joy that had. 0:32:13.800 --> 0:32:16.200 That's the one thing that I never could understand, like 0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:19.920 of what religion I researched you. 0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:21.520 I knew you was a Muslim. 0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:25.440 But one thing that the group embraces is it feels 0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:29.360 like it's all religion. Is that something that could because 0:32:29.360 --> 0:32:31.560 it feels like it's Christians is down with y'all, it's 0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:32.840 father Sensus down with y'all. 0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:34.960 Yeah, Am I accurate in assumption? 0:32:35.800 --> 0:32:38.640 In the beginnings it was just spirituality because for me personally, 0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:42.640 I really wasn't. I wasn't a Christian I was at 0:32:42.680 --> 0:32:44.720 that time. I wasn't a Christian. I was more so, 0:32:45.680 --> 0:32:49.120 you know, just just believer in spirituality, you know what 0:32:49.160 --> 0:32:51.800 I'm saying exactly. I was sort of on that tip 0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:55.840 at the time. And so, yeah, we embraced everything to 0:32:56.000 --> 0:32:57.120 some extent or another, you know. 0:32:57.800 --> 0:32:58.360 But it's funny. 0:32:58.400 --> 0:33:00.520 I did use a lot of talk like Lord, and 0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:03.040 you know, I say stuff like this, you know, Tennessee. Like, 0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:06.080 so I do think that it's sort of seeped into 0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:08.400 me from my grandmother, you know, just being raised around it. 0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:17.040 So yeah, But the gospel group they just labeled it 0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:20.120 conscious though. That was the easy way to talk about it, 0:33:20.360 --> 0:33:22.040 Call it conscious and conscious. 0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:23.920 Do you think that's the easy way to talk about it? 0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:26.560 Conscious's the easy way to accept all of it? 0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:30.760 Okay, exactly, we're just conscious, just conscious band, that's fact. 0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:32.240 That's fact because. 0:33:32.080 --> 0:33:34.800 There's a difference between conscious and backpack rack, right right, 0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:37.880 It's like I believe, like most is that all the 0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:40.840 people's party, And I assessed that too. 0:33:41.040 --> 0:33:44.360 Yeah, so well, okay, what's it called hold on? Hold on? 0:33:44.760 --> 0:33:50.000 Your father's club when you first learned how to dj? 0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:52.520 Yep, So my dad owned the night. He was a 0:33:52.720 --> 0:33:56.240 serial entrepreneur. So he started off with gas station. He 0:33:56.360 --> 0:34:00.800 had a fast food restaurant, he had a corn roasting business, 0:34:01.280 --> 0:34:04.600 and then he got this club corn roasting. 0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:12.480 I want to invest in that business. So he started a. 0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:13.600 Club called the Fox Trap. 0:34:14.080 --> 0:34:18.000 And at the Fox Trap, it was the best club 0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:21.279 in Milwaukee for black people. So everybody was going there. 0:34:21.320 --> 0:34:24.160 The DJs were crazy, but they weren't at that time. 0:34:24.320 --> 0:34:26.239 This is in the eighties at that time, eighty three 0:34:26.400 --> 0:34:29.520 somewhere in there. At that time, DJ's and Milwaukee at 0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:32.759 least weren't scratching and mixing and stuff. But I was 0:34:32.800 --> 0:34:34.719 because I was in love with like grahmm mix of 0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:37.880 dst and you know what I'm saying, like Herbie Hancock 0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:38.840 on the Grammys. 0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:39.799 Actually, when they did. 0:34:39.800 --> 0:34:41.600 Rocket, it was like that was my first time ever 0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:42.240 seeing scratch. 0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:43.759 So I was on that tip. 0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:46.880 So I learned how to do like the regular fades 0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:49.120 and stuff like that from the DJs. But then I 0:34:49.320 --> 0:34:52.200 was bringing to Milwaukee, you know, scratching and mixing and 0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:52.800 stuff like that. 0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:55.560 What was the name of the group, What was Attack? 0:34:55.880 --> 0:34:58.400 Attack was my first group, yeah, exactly. 0:34:58.120 --> 0:35:00.680 And that was the first people on Whack in Milwaukee, 0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:02.400 first black people at first hip hop's. 0:35:02.480 --> 0:35:04.640 It's argued that we're you know, there was another group 0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:06.839 that did like some kind of wrestling record that had 0:35:06.960 --> 0:35:08.960 rap in it, you know how like fat back, like 0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:12.839 you know, it's sort of like debated, but like, but yeah, 0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:14.360 we was one of the first without the questions. 0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:16.239 So it was probably the first or second, depends how 0:35:16.280 --> 0:35:16.719 you look at it. 0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:20.200 I went to Milwaukee one time and they had shootouts 0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:22.800 and pips. I was like, wait a minute, facts, I 0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:24.440 was like baseball team. 0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:32.480 Yeah, so I want to talk about Tennessee, okay, because 0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:34.680 I was surprised to find out that this was the 0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:36.280 last record y'all recorded for that album. 0:35:36.360 --> 0:35:38.760 Yeah, yeah, so what happened? 0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:42.080 We finished the record, We recorded the record album done. 0:35:42.120 --> 0:35:44.799 We did it in Milwaukee actually at a studio called 0:35:44.840 --> 0:35:49.880 Tracks thirty two, and then unfortunately my grandmother passed that 0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:54.120 same week my brother died, and so the last place 0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:56.280 I saw both of them was at my grandmother's funeral 0:35:56.400 --> 0:36:00.320 in Tennessee. So that song just was written out of 0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:03.239 pure motions, just like as you can see, you know, 0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:04.560 you can tell, you know what I'm saying with the 0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:08.400 with the lyrics and everything. So so you know, that 0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:10.200 was the last record we did, and we did that 0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:13.640 one at Bobby brown studio called boss Bosstown. 0:36:13.719 --> 0:36:15.760 He had a studio which is now stink Oni. 0:36:17.239 --> 0:36:17.359 Now. 0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:21.000 So yeah, which is how good that record felt for 0:36:21.120 --> 0:36:23.440 me as a youngster. And I'm i'm uh. 0:36:24.040 --> 0:36:27.440 I was born ninety seventy seven, so I must have 0:36:27.480 --> 0:36:29.640 didn't pay attention to the lyrics and just pay attention 0:36:29.719 --> 0:36:30.200 to the feeling. 0:36:30.840 --> 0:36:34.040 I would put that record on for a good feeling. 0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:34.680 I didn't know. 0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:43.000 Here's because the melody and the message was so powerful 0:36:43.360 --> 0:36:45.680 that I might not never listened to the lyrics, so 0:36:45.880 --> 0:36:48.719 like I would take me to the place I didn't 0:36:48.719 --> 0:36:49.399 even realize you were. 0:36:49.360 --> 0:36:57.400 Saying out of this, like oh this might be with 0:36:57.520 --> 0:37:02.680 this record, like this is energetically a little bit, you know, 0:37:03.160 --> 0:37:05.520 so it is, but you know it's funny. 0:37:05.640 --> 0:37:08.440 Caris one called me one day, he called my I was, 0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:16.239 and I wasn't there. The answer machine picked up, and 0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:18.680 so he left a message and he's like, yo, speech, 0:37:19.520 --> 0:37:20.719 I'm just kidding. 0:37:20.480 --> 0:37:28.400 This ten years later, so it's like yo. 0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:31.480 It was so like it was encouraging to me because 0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:34.160 to me, that's a skill set, you know what I'm saying, 0:37:34.200 --> 0:37:36.200 to be able to be able to talk about stuff 0:37:36.200 --> 0:37:37.120 that's really from your soul. 0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:39.640 But it doesn't bring you down. It lifts you up. 0:37:40.120 --> 0:37:41.640 And you don't even have to listen to it if 0:37:41.680 --> 0:37:43.759 you don't want the first time, Like the lyrical track, 0:37:43.800 --> 0:37:45.759 you know that track of it, you don't have to 0:37:45.800 --> 0:37:47.759 even be on that track, You just be on the 0:37:47.840 --> 0:37:49.640 five you know what I'm saying. It just that's the 0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:51.920 track you want to be on, you know. So it's 0:37:52.000 --> 0:37:54.400 just different people could get on different tracks listening to 0:37:54.480 --> 0:37:56.080 it a lot of times, you know what I'm saying, 0:37:56.120 --> 0:37:58.279 Different different pathways or whatever. 0:37:58.320 --> 0:37:59.960 That's the power of music, though, it's the power. 0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:04.080 It's like I just I just saw what I saw 0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:06.600 and I felt what I felt exactly right. 0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:09.560 And every time I get it, it still goosebumps to 0:38:09.640 --> 0:38:11.680 this day, you know what I mean. I still remember 0:38:11.880 --> 0:38:15.239 the black and white video. I remember like Ralph McDaniel's 0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:17.960 I remember going to the jukebox, me trying to order 0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:19.320 it and get in trouble for you. 0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:24.520 So it's like it's like damn. And then years later 0:38:24.600 --> 0:38:25.680 I'm like, holy ship. 0:38:25.800 --> 0:38:28.359 As a as a lyricist, I'm listening to the lyrics, 0:38:28.400 --> 0:38:31.160 I'm like, you've been celebrating like almost. 0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:33.000 It is. 0:38:35.040 --> 0:38:38.160 But then what's crazy about that is his what's the 0:38:38.239 --> 0:38:39.719 best thing about the group? 0:38:39.840 --> 0:38:39.960 Right? 0:38:41.440 --> 0:38:44.360 Is us all known? We come from Africa? Right, no 0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:50.640 matter what I don't keep, you're white, black, Germany's original whatever, 0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:54.239 you all, you all come from Africa. And the one 0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:57.480 thing about the act for him Proverbs is the family 0:38:57.600 --> 0:39:00.759 trade is the fact that like, you know, what's my 0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:05.600 man name, bob oj Like I love that even the 0:39:05.680 --> 0:39:08.040 story of you asking him, I wanted to elder person 0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:09.000 in the group at the time. 0:39:09.040 --> 0:39:10.719 I believe he was fifty seven or something like that, 0:39:11.360 --> 0:39:14.200 and it was just like when you hear that story, 0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:15.360 it's just like that's that. 0:39:15.560 --> 0:39:21.560 African uh, you know messages that we heard like how 0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:24.040 family was and how when they see it when they 0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:27.520 say when they say they take a village to raise 0:39:27.560 --> 0:39:28.360 the child, that's what. 0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:29.000 They talk about. 0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:31.520 The African villages and you sit there and when I 0:39:31.640 --> 0:39:34.960 look at the group always from from back then to now, 0:39:35.080 --> 0:39:38.640 I always say, damn, Like if I've learned something from them, 0:39:38.680 --> 0:39:43.800 I've always learned that the African caromatererie that y'all put together. 0:39:44.040 --> 0:39:46.239 And I even see like like like I kind of 0:39:46.280 --> 0:39:49.120 like kept going back to see like, you know, the 0:39:49.239 --> 0:39:51.959 interviews that was happening after the Grammys, and I'm sitting 0:39:52.000 --> 0:39:53.879 back and I'm saying, these guys have always been the same. 0:39:53.960 --> 0:39:56.480 They stayed the same, and that's a lot that's a 0:39:56.560 --> 0:39:58.560 lot harder to do. So let me get back to 0:39:58.640 --> 0:40:02.160 my original question is how hard is that? 0:40:02.520 --> 0:40:02.640 Right? 0:40:03.360 --> 0:40:09.120 Because back then, uh, there was gang bangers, Like it 0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:12.960 really wasn't fly to where you know, it was the 0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:16.080 X Clan era for righteous teachers, and then that kind 0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:18.560 of like you know, you know, went out and then 0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:22.560 it was like gang banger's big, and you know, being 0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:26.719 a drug dealer was big, and then how how was 0:40:26.800 --> 0:40:30.440 it to navigate through that and still maintain who you are? 0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:32.400 I know I asked it in a different way, but 0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:36.160 I'm asking this musically now because like when you start 0:40:36.239 --> 0:40:38.879 to be along winning with this question, if you look 0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:41.239 at a lot of New York artists when when the 0:40:41.320 --> 0:40:44.719 South started to change, South started to take over a 0:40:44.800 --> 0:40:48.120 lot of New York artists started to play their bags 0:40:48.239 --> 0:40:51.879 with the South and change their their their their tone 0:40:51.920 --> 0:40:53.840 of music and try to see who they could fit in. 0:40:54.120 --> 0:40:56.880 What made y'all never want to fit in? For us? 0:40:57.560 --> 0:40:59.719 I guess the sort of good part about it for 0:40:59.880 --> 0:41:01.600 us was we was before a lot of that, so 0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:04.200 you know, it was before our cast was before. So 0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:09.279 for us, it was like, okay, you know we was 0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:12.399 playing it earlier. Mama is always on stage. We brought 0:41:12.440 --> 0:41:16.560 this like harmonica energy, you know, to the hip hop sounds. 0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:19.239 So it's like for us, it was just trying to 0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:21.839 be unique, trying to trying to bring that Southern energy, 0:41:21.840 --> 0:41:24.919 even the video Tennessee, making it in the rural South 0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:27.080 instead of in the city landscapes. 0:41:26.600 --> 0:41:28.640 Which is what New York was already on that right, 0:41:29.160 --> 0:41:30.640 So just trying to be different. 0:41:31.200 --> 0:41:35.440 It wasn't that hard because back then you were celebrated 0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:38.879 for being absolutely unique. Like if you can bring something 0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:42.400 unique to to some extent or another, you're going to 0:41:42.520 --> 0:41:43.160 be celebrated. 0:41:43.160 --> 0:41:45.239 Because that's what that was. What was, That's what it 0:41:45.360 --> 0:41:46.680 was about. You know what I mean, and no one. 0:41:46.640 --> 0:41:54.760 Sounded like each other prob exactly. 0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:06.880 So no, it was it was, it was dope, it was. 0:42:07.040 --> 0:42:10.239 It was easier for us because of that, because but 0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:11.280 it was still hard. 0:42:11.160 --> 0:42:13.040 Because I mean, here we are, like I was, like 0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:14.520 we was talking about when we got booed at the 0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:17.120 Step Show, A lot of the music that was coming 0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:19.200 out in the South at that exact time sort of 0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:19.520 had that. 0:42:19.600 --> 0:42:20.520 Miami based style. 0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:23.080 It was, you know, one twenty you know what I'm saying, 0:42:23.160 --> 0:42:26.400 one thirty piece per minute, and we're. 0:42:26.000 --> 0:42:27.200 Coming out with this other vibe. 0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:30.239 We was very influenced by New York, very influent. Well 0:42:30.239 --> 0:42:32.200 I'm from Milwaukee, so for me, I was very influenced 0:42:32.200 --> 0:42:35.520 by New York, but also DC go go music, the you. 0:42:35.520 --> 0:42:37.280 Know, house music from the Chicago. 0:42:39.040 --> 0:42:40.800 Chicago meant a lot to us, Like that was a 0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:44.399 big deal ninety miles away, an hour and a half away, 0:42:44.480 --> 0:42:47.799 so house was a thing, you know, the house music. 0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:51.800 So so all of those different styles we embraced it. 0:42:52.160 --> 0:42:55.200 And I'm the producer for the group, so that early music, 0:42:55.280 --> 0:42:57.000 I was producing that stuff too, so it was like, 0:42:57.719 --> 0:42:59.319 you know, I wanted to embrace all of that sound. 0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:01.440 So it was a little easier because there wasn't we 0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:03.400 wasn't expected to do a particular thing. 0:43:03.960 --> 0:43:06.400 We had all those energies though. Some of those energy 0:43:06.520 --> 0:43:14.400 like I'm from Jersey, the same area where so me 0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:17.840 and pr T from the same neighborhood exactly, and Wise 0:43:17.960 --> 0:43:20.719 and culture Freedom from the same neighborhood. So when I 0:43:20.880 --> 0:43:28.240 met speaking, so when I met them, the Jersey energy facts, 0:43:28.400 --> 0:43:32.600 the New York energy, the house energy, because. 0:43:32.400 --> 0:43:34.440 Jersey was big in house at that time. It was 0:43:34.600 --> 0:43:35.279 huge in the house. 0:43:35.440 --> 0:43:39.040 I agree, I agree, but I was probably into New York. 0:43:39.280 --> 0:43:45.040 Okay, So like Latin Quarter going to uh uh, I 0:43:45.080 --> 0:43:47.560 wouldn't say Red Para, that's way, that's way back. 0:43:49.120 --> 0:43:51.000 Uh what is it? 0:43:51.120 --> 0:43:51.239 Uh? 0:43:52.200 --> 0:43:58.320 Anyway, Mars? You know, so I was. I brought that 0:43:58.520 --> 0:43:59.680 energy to the band fast. 0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:02.960 So when we started performing, people knew, like, oh, he's 0:44:03.000 --> 0:44:03.600 from up top. 0:44:03.920 --> 0:44:07.200 But it's not just the Georgia energy, you know what 0:44:07.239 --> 0:44:11.759 I'm saying. So we had to cover he had New 0:44:11.880 --> 0:44:16.160 York Atlanta. Yeah, exactly. 0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:19.120 I feel like, for lack of a better term, y'all 0:44:19.280 --> 0:44:20.759 officially a global band. 0:44:21.360 --> 0:44:24.120 We are global at the end of the day because 0:44:24.600 --> 0:44:27.920 and it's funny because while hip hop obviously represents wherever 0:44:27.960 --> 0:44:31.080 you're from, right, I was on to me personally, I 0:44:31.160 --> 0:44:32.480 was on a tip. It ain't where you're from, it's 0:44:32.480 --> 0:44:34.800 where you're at, you know what I'm saying. So it's like, Okay, 0:44:36.000 --> 0:44:40.040 I love Milwaukee, I love Atlanta, I love like I said, DC, 0:44:40.120 --> 0:44:42.480 blah blah blah. So for me, it was just a 0:44:42.560 --> 0:44:44.200 matter of, well, this is what we're doing, this is 0:44:44.239 --> 0:44:47.040 what we're bringing to the table at all, exactly exactly 0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:49.280 in the past thirty. 0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:51.880 IM trying to say, you know what I believe or 0:44:52.040 --> 0:44:55.319 like I believe on certain job advocations they should ask 0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:59.960 hip hop right, like, because I believe some people religion 0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:02.239 into some people who raises really hip hop Like. 0:45:04.200 --> 0:45:05.560 Just no, I'm just being honest. 0:45:06.000 --> 0:45:09.320 Like I know people who I don't consider black white nothing, 0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:10.560 I just considered them hip hop. 0:45:10.640 --> 0:45:12.239 We could just sit there and just talk hip hop 0:45:12.320 --> 0:45:13.479 for nothing else. 0:45:14.200 --> 0:45:18.520 And that's like crazy because this music raised this person. 0:45:18.920 --> 0:45:20.920 He might have not been raised by me at all, 0:45:21.360 --> 0:45:24.000 it might have been for Portland, Oregon, but his knowledge 0:45:24.000 --> 0:45:24.480 of hip hop. 0:45:24.640 --> 0:45:27.239 He knows g rapp like I do. We used to 0:45:27.280 --> 0:45:29.439 talk about the hip hop flag that you wish to see. 0:45:29.440 --> 0:45:33.480 That always the hotels, you know, flag. 0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:36.279 Just think about it, right, that's crazy, so so think 0:45:36.320 --> 0:45:37.959 about and this is a real ship. 0:45:38.200 --> 0:45:40.120 I know I'm saying this like you know, bucking out, 0:45:40.160 --> 0:45:41.080 but I'm not wucking out. 0:45:41.160 --> 0:45:43.759 Like if you was to check into a hotel and 0:45:43.880 --> 0:45:45.799 you was to see the hip hop flag and you say, 0:45:46.360 --> 0:45:51.239 this is, by. 0:45:51.160 --> 0:45:53.160 The way, I have to follow all the rules. It 0:45:53.200 --> 0:45:56.680 doesn't mean I could break the rules because but like 0:45:56.840 --> 0:45:59.359 for lack of like like a soho house, but these 0:45:59.400 --> 0:46:01.520 people go to whole house and they respect the rules. 0:46:01.560 --> 0:46:01.880 They do it. 0:46:01.960 --> 0:46:04.800 Imagine we had a hip hop so whole house. Like 0:46:05.040 --> 0:46:06.160 I'm sorry, I know I'm bugging out. 0:46:07.080 --> 0:46:07.279 Are you? 0:46:07.400 --> 0:46:09.400 Are you setting it up? Because you're doesn't this No, no. 0:46:09.480 --> 0:46:12.919 No, no no, I'm I'm speaking at to Paris because 0:46:12.920 --> 0:46:14.000 I ain't no clue how to do it. 0:46:16.000 --> 0:46:18.200 I have a clue how would it would look? You 0:46:18.239 --> 0:46:18.640 know what I'm saying. 0:46:18.640 --> 0:46:20.800 I'm saying like like me doing that, like you know, 0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:23.480 you know, going to Hollywood and hanging out and these 0:46:23.520 --> 0:46:25.480 guys going hold these clubs is here, and the clubs 0:46:25.560 --> 0:46:26.719 is here, and I'm saying, Okay. 0:46:26.840 --> 0:46:29.080 Then one day I was with alchemists. 0:46:30.200 --> 0:46:33.560 And alchemist says to me, we're in Amsterdam, and he goes, 0:46:33.960 --> 0:46:35.640 I go, I can't smoke at my hotel, so I'm 0:46:35.640 --> 0:46:38.960 going to smoke. And in the coffee shop. He goes, well, 0:46:38.960 --> 0:46:41.080 you can smoke at my hotel. And I go, well, 0:46:41.080 --> 0:46:44.319 what is your hotel? Why your hotel is special? He goes, well, 0:46:44.320 --> 0:46:46.200 I'm at the hip hop hotel. And I went to 0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:48.480 his hotel. It was graffiti everywhere. 0:46:49.680 --> 0:46:52.120 It was graffiti everywhere, and I was like, holy shit. 0:46:52.400 --> 0:46:56.040 And it was smoke everywhere too, though, Like I didn't 0:46:56.040 --> 0:46:57.040 agree with this smoking. 0:46:56.840 --> 0:46:58.160 The lobby more. I was like, hold on, hold on, 0:46:58.239 --> 0:47:02.319 hold on, hold on, hold up to boss some type 0:47:02.320 --> 0:47:05.279 of because some type of some type of But what 0:47:05.360 --> 0:47:05.880 I thought. 0:47:05.719 --> 0:47:07.560 About it is I'm like, okay, if this is an 0:47:07.600 --> 0:47:10.480 eighteen years or older, okay, but that's not that's not it. 0:47:10.680 --> 0:47:13.800 I want hotels where it's like a hip hop hotel, 0:47:14.120 --> 0:47:17.360 which we're accepted, you know what I mean, Like like 0:47:17.520 --> 0:47:19.279 and when we deserved that at this point, and we 0:47:19.480 --> 0:47:21.680 have we have the bank, and we have the characters 0:47:21.719 --> 0:47:25.040 to get behind a person like I always I always 0:47:25.080 --> 0:47:27.200 said this, I always. 0:47:26.960 --> 0:47:27.759 Wanted chrest One. 0:47:27.760 --> 0:47:30.120 And we bring up Karris one and me and me 0:47:30.200 --> 0:47:32.880 and him been fighting for the hip hop union forever. 0:47:33.520 --> 0:47:36.000 I always would put the budget in Karos one hand 0:47:36.640 --> 0:47:36.880 like this. 0:47:37.320 --> 0:47:39.360 I would put it in Chris hands like this, like 0:47:39.440 --> 0:47:48.960 it's sang for hip hop. Yeah, like Curtis Blue, Harris 0:47:49.040 --> 0:47:49.720 One is involved. 0:47:51.120 --> 0:47:52.360 So you know we're doing that. 0:47:52.480 --> 0:47:55.840 There were in there, yea, because when you think about it, 0:47:56.080 --> 0:47:59.880 the only other entertainment that doesn't have a union is boxing. 0:48:00.040 --> 0:48:00.960 We're not that bootle bro. 0:48:02.400 --> 0:48:07.080 Come on, is American worldwide culture now? Like everything is 0:48:07.920 --> 0:48:09.080 influenced by hip hop? 0:48:09.200 --> 0:48:09.439 Fact? 0:48:09.520 --> 0:48:12.840 Yeah, the biggest cultural export from this country. 0:48:13.800 --> 0:48:17.239 The country the country wave now that's out double hip 0:48:17.239 --> 0:48:21.360 hop is a little it's trapped country now like that. 0:48:22.320 --> 0:48:24.799 I love that. I love it. I love to think 0:48:24.840 --> 0:48:25.959 about this hotel. 0:48:27.160 --> 0:48:34.040 You see because because architect, you know, I'm like this, 0:48:36.320 --> 0:48:38.879 but beyond that, beyond that, beyond the hotel. 0:48:39.360 --> 0:48:42.400 Flag, the flag when you look at the establishment, like 0:48:42.719 --> 0:48:44.440 what we look at the establishment. 0:48:44.480 --> 0:48:48.840 If you see, uh a Jamaican flag, you know, I 0:48:49.080 --> 0:48:51.080 this guy might have some good chicken, you know. 0:48:51.040 --> 0:48:53.040 What I'm saying, Like like like you know what I'm saying, 0:48:53.120 --> 0:48:58.000 like my bad Jamaicans a little good that's all we get. 0:48:58.440 --> 0:49:00.520 Jamaica flag you mean like that, But you know what 0:49:00.560 --> 0:49:03.720 I'm trying to say. So I always wanted to hip hop. 0:49:03.600 --> 0:49:06.279 Flag like wherever we go, Like does Alchemists actually have 0:49:06.360 --> 0:49:07.680 a hip hop There was a. 0:49:07.719 --> 0:49:09.759 Hip hop hotel when he was staying at it, and 0:49:09.840 --> 0:49:11.320 he told me, and I don't I don't know, I 0:49:11.320 --> 0:49:12.040 don't know if he was. 0:49:12.280 --> 0:49:15.839 It was actually called the hip hop he called okay, 0:49:16.000 --> 0:49:17.640 but I walked in and we smoked, and I was like, 0:49:17.760 --> 0:49:20.520 holy ship. But I knew what he meant because they 0:49:20.600 --> 0:49:23.560 accepted our kind of like, oh no, I'm limited just 0:49:23.640 --> 0:49:26.760 smoking that because that's that's like, you know, it's very simple, 0:49:26.840 --> 0:49:29.279 but I'm saying it's totality. 0:49:29.560 --> 0:49:31.319 What it meant was, Yo, you. 0:49:31.360 --> 0:49:34.239 Want to a room, you would go through graffiti in 0:49:34.320 --> 0:49:36.719 rue room, You'll go like DJ in run room. 0:49:36.760 --> 0:49:38.640 And I was just like, oh, that's kind of like 0:49:39.000 --> 0:49:45.680 that's crazy. Yeah, years ago. That is years ago. I 0:49:45.800 --> 0:49:47.640 want to track back to the album. 0:49:47.360 --> 0:49:50.000 Again, okay, because we're talking about how you guys were 0:49:50.040 --> 0:49:53.640 experimenting making the music and it felt maybe different, right 0:49:53.719 --> 0:49:54.680 than what was going on at the time. 0:49:54.800 --> 0:49:58.879 How do you get a deal two years? Okay? My bad? 0:50:02.080 --> 0:50:04.879 And you know everybody turned us down. 0:50:05.200 --> 0:50:07.480 So and I often say this, I think you already 0:50:07.480 --> 0:50:10.560 picked up on this, Like we we shopped everywhere, you 0:50:10.640 --> 0:50:13.399 know what I'm saying, But they just was turning us down. 0:50:13.440 --> 0:50:15.200 And there was no labels in Atlanta at the time. 0:50:15.280 --> 0:50:18.759 This was before La Face La Face South came soon 0:50:18.840 --> 0:50:22.120 after us, but there was no labels that was doing 0:50:22.200 --> 0:50:24.160 hip hop at the time. So you it was a 0:50:24.239 --> 0:50:27.680 tough It was a tough you know road, and only 0:50:27.800 --> 0:50:31.120 one label, which is Chrysalis, took a chance on us, 0:50:31.440 --> 0:50:32.759 and they didn't give us an album deal. 0:50:32.800 --> 0:50:33.799 They gave us a single deal. 0:50:33.840 --> 0:50:37.320 The first deal was for mister Wendell with a B 0:50:37.480 --> 0:50:41.360 side of Natural and this wasn't created yet, this song Wow. 0:50:41.640 --> 0:50:43.439 So we signed that deal. 0:50:44.400 --> 0:50:46.520 And I don't even know if y'all know this part 0:50:46.600 --> 0:50:51.440 because my mom told me I had two years to 0:50:51.600 --> 0:50:53.840 try to make it in the rest of development in Atlanta, 0:50:54.080 --> 0:50:56.439 and if I didn't make it, she said, you're coming 0:50:56.520 --> 0:50:59.279 back to Milwaukee and you're going to school. We didn't 0:50:59.320 --> 0:51:01.239 make it into year, which is why that three years 0:51:02.520 --> 0:51:05.960 school teacher, right she was, and you know that publisher 0:51:06.040 --> 0:51:09.960 this paper, and so two years it didn't happen. So 0:51:10.080 --> 0:51:12.640 I went back to Milwaukee, and that's why we ended 0:51:12.719 --> 0:51:15.200 up recording in Milwaukee. We got the single deal three 0:51:15.280 --> 0:51:18.880 years five months and we got that single deal and 0:51:19.080 --> 0:51:21.799 we ended up recording the album in Milwaukee, and then 0:51:21.920 --> 0:51:24.279 that single you Know a Little, the last thing. 0:51:24.239 --> 0:51:25.760 We did and that was in Atlanta. 0:51:26.280 --> 0:51:26.799 The album was. 0:51:28.400 --> 0:51:29.279 What speech was saying. 0:51:29.560 --> 0:51:31.799 I think we did a lot of shows, like back then, 0:51:31.840 --> 0:51:33.280 it was a lot of showcases and stuff. 0:51:33.400 --> 0:51:35.400 We performed all the time. 0:51:35.440 --> 0:51:38.160 All the time. Every weekend shows we did V one on. 0:51:38.200 --> 0:51:42.200 Three would have like stuff like that, we didn't do them, 0:51:42.440 --> 0:51:44.719 and so we were constantly like performing. We used to 0:51:44.800 --> 0:51:48.120 rehearse eight hours a day, and at this place called rehearse. 0:51:47.920 --> 0:51:49.480 Too much, and so. 0:51:52.360 --> 0:51:59.000 Yeah, yeah, jam. 0:51:59.239 --> 0:52:02.000 We started going to crossovers and rehearsing there all the time. 0:52:02.040 --> 0:52:04.120 I think we were the first hip hop out of 0:52:04.200 --> 0:52:06.880 crossover studios, So I think that. 0:52:06.960 --> 0:52:08.680 Has something to do with it too. And then I 0:52:08.760 --> 0:52:10.680 remember the year we did Jack the Rappers. 0:52:11.360 --> 0:52:13.880 So we did Jack the Rappers, and I remember when 0:52:13.920 --> 0:52:16.480 we did the performance, no one was in the room. 0:52:17.200 --> 0:52:25.279 No woman, no one heard, no one was. Let me 0:52:25.440 --> 0:52:27.360 tell you the power of the of the. 0:52:27.480 --> 0:52:35.400 Music vibrationally, we started playing one by one, then Naughty 0:52:35.440 --> 0:52:37.160 by Nature, I mean. 0:52:37.120 --> 0:52:39.880 And after the whole room was just packed out with 0:52:40.160 --> 0:52:42.040 just these people that we look up to. 0:52:45.400 --> 0:52:48.040 And this is the first time you're performing as Atlanta Group. 0:52:48.360 --> 0:52:56.959 Well yeah, and so after that, that's when I feel 0:52:57.040 --> 0:52:58.520 like everything kind of just took off. 0:52:59.000 --> 0:53:01.080 It was a very raw show. 0:53:02.200 --> 0:53:02.840 It was it was. 0:53:03.080 --> 0:53:05.880 It was a beautiful, vibrational thing. And I want to 0:53:05.920 --> 0:53:09.440 say the rest of open to me. We always have 0:53:09.640 --> 0:53:12.040 that vibrational energy, like when we come on stage. 0:53:12.120 --> 0:53:13.360 I think it moves. 0:53:14.600 --> 0:53:19.080 About y'all, me doing the research and seeing flyers and 0:53:19.200 --> 0:53:21.239 seeing y'all. Like some cases the groups, I was like 0:53:21.760 --> 0:53:24.000 they was there was the logical people tonight. 0:53:26.320 --> 0:53:28.400 Everybody had to see you like this is now that 0:53:28.480 --> 0:53:29.160 we're good? Yeah? 0:53:29.239 --> 0:53:30.319 You know that good? 0:53:30.480 --> 0:53:37.919 Yeah? So how about Easy? I was your ladyship with Easy? 0:53:38.280 --> 0:53:38.960 I never met you? 0:53:39.040 --> 0:53:40.840 Never met Easy? Okay, I never met Easier? 0:53:41.480 --> 0:53:42.480 Did y'all have you all met? 0:53:42.719 --> 0:53:43.080 Okay? 0:53:43.160 --> 0:53:43.640 I met you? 0:53:44.120 --> 0:53:47.840 Okay? And that was interesting? Okay because wait, wait, what 0:53:47.960 --> 0:53:50.160 about the airport? Wasn't that Easy at the airport? 0:53:50.480 --> 0:53:50.920 Tell me more? 0:53:51.040 --> 0:53:53.120 Maybe we were. 0:53:53.120 --> 0:53:57.480 Walking in the airport one time and they were together. 0:53:57.760 --> 0:54:00.920 This is when all the together can walk because they 0:54:01.000 --> 0:54:01.440 were gangster. 0:54:01.560 --> 0:54:03.279 We like, you know, we ain't know what we can 0:54:03.320 --> 0:54:07.239 speak about. We got going, you know, you're in an air. 0:54:07.480 --> 0:54:11.080 Going in the morning, and I think it was easy 0:54:11.160 --> 0:54:13.239 to say why they're to speak to us because he 0:54:13.320 --> 0:54:13.960 knew it was us. 0:54:14.840 --> 0:54:17.560 Somebody came and got us and we walked back. Okay, 0:54:17.640 --> 0:54:20.640 I didn't know that all right, So we walked back. 0:54:21.000 --> 0:54:22.680 We said was something that we went on the car. 0:54:22.960 --> 0:54:25.400 We definitely see I'm a huge fan of n W A, 0:54:26.160 --> 0:54:28.880 like a huge fan, so I mean, for me, it was. 0:54:29.560 --> 0:54:33.759 But I will say I now get what at that 0:54:33.960 --> 0:54:36.480 time period, we were sort of pitted against gangst to 0:54:36.560 --> 0:54:39.560 hip hop, and I think it was mistaken because I 0:54:39.600 --> 0:54:41.920 would get on stage and say a lot of our 0:54:42.000 --> 0:54:44.840 peers are calling black women bitches and holes. 0:54:45.239 --> 0:54:48.280 We're not down with that. But we weren't saying anything 0:54:48.400 --> 0:54:50.719 bad about those that were down with that. We're just 0:54:50.800 --> 0:54:53.160 saying we're not down. We're trying to do something different. 0:54:53.239 --> 0:54:56.399 But I understand how that could have been misconstrued as 0:54:56.520 --> 0:54:59.320 like we're dissing you know, anybody that's not you know 0:54:59.360 --> 0:55:02.000 what I'm saying, Like absolutely, So I think I think 0:55:02.080 --> 0:55:04.440 that's why we were probably in a in a zone 0:55:04.480 --> 0:55:07.000 of are we speaking like are we cool? 0:55:07.080 --> 0:55:07.200 You know? 0:55:07.239 --> 0:55:07.640 What I'm saying. 0:55:07.800 --> 0:55:09.799 It's funny you said, because we had come on last 0:55:09.840 --> 0:55:11.600 week and I didn't know that he was on the 0:55:11.760 --> 0:55:13.360 n w A tour with play and. 0:55:18.160 --> 0:55:20.000 I was like, this is this just makes so much sense. 0:55:20.040 --> 0:55:24.560 We just literally had said you come up with I. 0:55:26.040 --> 0:55:28.640 Mean it's a master like a boy Jains. 0:55:31.520 --> 0:55:31.680 Yeah. 0:55:31.760 --> 0:55:33.320 For us, it was, you know, it was it was 0:55:33.360 --> 0:55:37.160 a little and plus our song people every day, I 0:55:37.360 --> 0:55:40.560 said in a lyric and I in ice Cube, but 0:55:40.719 --> 0:55:42.560 I had to take the brother out for being rude 0:55:43.760 --> 0:55:48.600 and to read. One of our members said who and 0:55:48.719 --> 0:55:50.840 she knew who he was. But so that was that 0:55:51.480 --> 0:55:53.879 I think came off to ice Cube is like maybe 0:55:53.920 --> 0:55:57.040 a disc And so when when we when I met him, 0:55:57.480 --> 0:55:58.960 we were at one of the award shows and I 0:55:59.040 --> 0:56:01.080 met him and he didn't want to speak, so he 0:56:01.239 --> 0:56:01.680 just gave me. 0:56:01.760 --> 0:56:03.840 That that famous ice cube. 0:56:03.840 --> 0:56:15.600 Look up. It was all good and I seen the record. 0:56:15.640 --> 0:56:20.799 For people that don't understand what's. 0:56:18.760 --> 0:56:21.880 Interesting about that time was I was in California at 0:56:21.920 --> 0:56:26.120 my dad's school and arrested. Development was at the heights 0:56:26.239 --> 0:56:29.759 of it. And because of the type of messaging that 0:56:30.000 --> 0:56:32.440 was like the set, because it was we was listening 0:56:32.480 --> 0:56:37.400 to all the ice tea ice cube and my brother, who's. 0:56:37.320 --> 0:56:39.400 Years older than me, he was all into that. 0:56:40.080 --> 0:56:43.279 So it was kind of like refreshing to have hip 0:56:43.360 --> 0:56:47.120 hop that was also okay for nine year old me 0:56:47.560 --> 0:56:48.279 to be listening to. 0:56:48.440 --> 0:56:51.960 And we was listening to all of it. But then 0:56:52.040 --> 0:56:53.040 when MTV. 0:56:52.920 --> 0:56:57.040 Came out and videos, was like, okay, now we're finn 0:56:57.040 --> 0:57:00.719 to see what these groups look like. And you see 0:57:00.760 --> 0:57:02.919 the group and they're in the rural countries and they're 0:57:02.960 --> 0:57:05.440 driving to pick up I'm you know, we're going back 0:57:05.480 --> 0:57:06.239 and forth from l. 0:57:06.239 --> 0:57:06.920 A to Georgia. 0:57:07.520 --> 0:57:12.600 So in l A you got the snoops and the 0:57:12.760 --> 0:57:15.440 you know, the l A vibe, and then you got 0:57:15.520 --> 0:57:17.840 Atlanta and and you being. 0:57:17.720 --> 0:57:20.960 There you know what it's like, but you know the difference. 0:57:21.000 --> 0:57:22.840 But it was like, wow, I can relate to this. 0:57:23.440 --> 0:57:26.080 I see, that's what I want. 0:57:26.640 --> 0:57:29.680 That's because in all the other wrap, you gotta end 0:57:29.800 --> 0:57:33.560 up up uh. To our Crew, my brother loved to 0:57:33.960 --> 0:57:34.640 to our Crew. 0:57:37.280 --> 0:57:44.520 The album cover, we're growing up where you had to 0:57:44.600 --> 0:57:47.080 be yeah, and you have to be you know, more 0:57:47.240 --> 0:57:50.880 conscious of females, queendom and all that, and that's what 0:57:51.000 --> 0:57:51.880 this group represented. 0:57:51.920 --> 0:57:54.480 So my my dad, my stepdad was to tell you. 0:57:54.520 --> 0:57:57.080 It's like, Okay, yeah I saw and I was like, 0:57:59.200 --> 0:58:01.600 we can still be hip hop and not represent that. 0:58:03.240 --> 0:58:07.240 Women right now? Whoever is is that rhapsody? 0:58:07.800 --> 0:58:11.160 Yeah, we love big fan of rap that comes from 0:58:11.280 --> 0:58:13.600 from direct from this lenient. 0:58:14.400 --> 0:58:16.040 I mean, I think the best, in my opinion, the 0:58:16.120 --> 0:58:18.640 best place for hip hop is when there's balance. 0:58:18.320 --> 0:58:21.320 In hip hop. Which is that balance? 0:58:22.480 --> 0:58:22.840 Definitely? 0:58:23.320 --> 0:58:27.640 Yeah, you point about having the the hip hop kind 0:58:27.640 --> 0:58:28.280 of coalition. 0:58:28.400 --> 0:58:30.360 It's like you can represent all of it and give 0:58:30.400 --> 0:58:32.280 it balance that you don't right now. 0:58:32.360 --> 0:58:34.440 It's so one sided. You only hear one see that. 0:58:34.680 --> 0:58:36.840 That's what I liked about those tours that Kwame was 0:58:36.880 --> 0:58:39.800 talking about, Like we were all touring with each other. 0:58:40.000 --> 0:58:43.560 You know, agredible to me, same tours. 0:58:43.600 --> 0:58:46.680 You know what I'm saying, different region life and everybody 0:58:46.720 --> 0:58:48.640 represents exactly. 0:58:48.640 --> 0:58:53.320 I introducing every crowd a different thing. And so now 0:58:53.360 --> 0:58:55.520 if you weren't a fan of this or that when 0:58:55.520 --> 0:58:56.720 you got there, now you are. 0:58:58.120 --> 0:59:02.200 Yeah we did. That was in Alaska. Oh Ship white 0:59:02.240 --> 0:59:05.240 Clapp was on the bill. Okay, he's opening for us. 0:59:05.440 --> 0:59:09.640 Wow, you're shouting from the stage, arrested the unups contixt. 0:59:09.880 --> 0:59:12.920 Who's we wanted to be him. I can see it 0:59:13.040 --> 0:59:13.439 for them. 0:59:13.560 --> 0:59:16.800 It's like we model ourselves after arrested the untain. 0:59:16.800 --> 0:59:18.600 He's telling the audiences, so you can clearly see. 0:59:20.000 --> 0:59:21.560 Yeah, a couple of years later, we can do a 0:59:21.600 --> 0:59:24.880 show with the Black Eyed Bes in Jerusalem. Wow, the 0:59:24.920 --> 0:59:27.400 last time of all back stage speech man, we wanted 0:59:27.440 --> 0:59:29.240 to be you guys when we started. 0:59:29.720 --> 0:59:31.120 We wanted model. 0:59:36.000 --> 0:59:36.320 The rest. 0:59:37.480 --> 0:59:39.360 I can see it, and not only that, you could 0:59:39.400 --> 0:59:42.640 see even like you know the Pharrals, you know what 0:59:42.680 --> 0:59:45.560 I mean, which which is for my solo career, which 0:59:45.640 --> 0:59:47.960 means that I might not exist without me and his 0:59:48.120 --> 0:59:53.240 commodity together. And so you can see, like I said, 0:59:53.360 --> 0:59:55.360 for lack of a better terms, we can see your sons. 0:59:55.520 --> 0:59:56.080 You know what I'm saying. 0:59:57.080 --> 0:59:57.680 But not I'm not. 0:59:57.720 --> 0:59:58.600 I'm not justing nobody. 1:00:00.080 --> 1:00:03.160 And but I think they'll agree with it too, because 1:00:03.240 --> 1:00:06.959 like that was like that was one of the first 1:00:07.120 --> 1:00:10.760 feel good hip hop moments for me, Like watching the 1:00:10.800 --> 1:00:12.760 rest of the better, watching what you guys are doing. 1:00:12.800 --> 1:00:16.560 And then here's here's what I wanted to know as 1:00:16.600 --> 1:00:20.560 a personal question, one thing about me, Helen like super 1:00:20.640 --> 1:00:23.040 Doug what what what what? And then I come out 1:00:23.080 --> 1:00:27.080 with another record. Oh well, let's not super dumb, and 1:00:27.200 --> 1:00:30.160 then cool I come out with Grimy and well, let's 1:00:30.160 --> 1:00:31.840 not super don and I come up with home Boy, 1:00:31.960 --> 1:00:33.760 I Can't a Body finally, and they're like, all right, 1:00:33.760 --> 1:00:35.360 that's better than super dumb, but is it? And then 1:00:35.360 --> 1:00:36.840 I come up with the next record and that's not. 1:00:38.400 --> 1:00:41.600 I gotta keep doing. Like you guys have major hits? 1:00:42.680 --> 1:00:47.760 Were you guys like what is it of your own success? 1:00:48.320 --> 1:00:50.400 Like you know what I mean? Because like when you 1:00:50.560 --> 1:00:51.640 met a year, watched it. 1:00:51.680 --> 1:00:55.479 Because you make Tennessee and then you know, you drop 1:00:55.480 --> 1:00:57.240 another record and they're like, well, it's not tennis. 1:00:58.080 --> 1:00:59.480 It's like you can't be tennis. 1:01:00.280 --> 1:01:01.080 We're not trying. 1:01:02.520 --> 1:01:02.880 To do that. 1:01:05.760 --> 1:01:09.280 So like like like of course or lustrious career, but 1:01:09.360 --> 1:01:12.480 you guys got these these super major records. 1:01:12.520 --> 1:01:15.520 That does it haunt you? You know what I'm saying? 1:01:15.880 --> 1:01:18.160 It does for me because I got you ton't me so. 1:01:19.400 --> 1:01:24.400 Because it's haunted because you're wondering if if the fans 1:01:24.640 --> 1:01:27.880 ever let you get past that particular thing and really 1:01:27.960 --> 1:01:30.720 embrace this thing which you're excited about, like you're in 1:01:30.800 --> 1:01:32.520 this moment now, you know what I'm saying. So it's 1:01:32.520 --> 1:01:35.080 not like you don't appreciate that moment, but you're in 1:01:35.160 --> 1:01:35.680 this moment. 1:01:36.000 --> 1:01:38.360 They don't sometimes let us go to that moment exactly, 1:01:38.400 --> 1:01:39.920 I see you having to say. Or the other day 1:01:39.960 --> 1:01:42.760 he said, you know what, I realized your fans are 1:01:42.800 --> 1:01:43.440 like your parents. 1:01:43.480 --> 1:01:48.680 They don't want you to grow up sometimes. You know 1:01:48.720 --> 1:01:52.120 what I'm saying. You know that's what something to and 1:01:53.760 --> 1:01:55.400 think about it. If you think about it, that's. 1:01:55.320 --> 1:01:58.840 Their selfish needs because they don't want to grow up. 1:01:58.880 --> 1:02:00.440 They don't that time and. 1:02:00.440 --> 1:02:03.680 That you understand that time and that life was so perfect, 1:02:04.040 --> 1:02:05.280 and they're like, why are you growing? 1:02:05.360 --> 1:02:07.840 Why are you wear a suit? Now? Can you go 1:02:07.960 --> 1:02:12.840 back to the plea? I can't wear a suit one time, 1:02:13.120 --> 1:02:14.560 but you can put it on a tux. 1:02:14.760 --> 1:02:16.000 But I like what jay Z said. 1:02:16.000 --> 1:02:18.920 He said in one of his lyrics, basically like if 1:02:18.960 --> 1:02:20.840 you want to listen to that, go back to that stuff. 1:02:20.960 --> 1:02:22.760 But this is what I'm doing now, Like why did 1:02:22.840 --> 1:02:24.160 I go back? You know what I'm saying? Like it 1:02:24.240 --> 1:02:26.840 was Blue playing three, he was talking about that, Yeah, 1:02:27.480 --> 1:02:29.080 what we talk about. I think that was the song. 1:02:29.360 --> 1:02:34.240 Yeah, yeah, But you have been haunted by this definitely. Okay, 1:02:34.560 --> 1:02:36.280 not only through the record labels, but through the fans 1:02:36.360 --> 1:02:37.800 to the fans questions. 1:02:37.880 --> 1:02:38.600 You know what I'm saying. 1:02:38.560 --> 1:02:41.240 When you're doing the show and you start the show, 1:02:41.960 --> 1:02:58.200 start the show, and. 1:02:58.320 --> 1:03:01.320 Y'all got major, like y'all should have major major, Like 1:03:02.360 --> 1:03:05.640 with all love and respect to y'all, like y'all broke 1:03:05.800 --> 1:03:08.440 genres of music like like it was. 1:03:08.680 --> 1:03:09.000 It was. 1:03:10.520 --> 1:03:13.200 It's still a hip hop record, but it was played 1:03:13.320 --> 1:03:16.840 and it was like everywhere you went you heard this record, 1:03:16.880 --> 1:03:18.520 you know what I mean, Like no matter where, it 1:03:18.560 --> 1:03:22.160 didn't matter what part you was at or whatever. So 1:03:22.840 --> 1:03:25.040 I know how hard that ship is and people come 1:03:25.080 --> 1:03:27.320 out like you know. I had one dude one time 1:03:27.360 --> 1:03:30.520 I was performing It's about me. He was like bloody money. 1:03:30.680 --> 1:03:38.800 I was like, the fuck man, like bloody money and 1:03:39.720 --> 1:03:42.000 no disrespect. So I couldn't tell you this disrespect. 1:03:42.120 --> 1:03:43.400 But it's like you got to shut up. 1:03:45.040 --> 1:03:49.280 But okay, so okay, flowers, man, listen. The show was 1:03:49.280 --> 1:03:51.880 about giving people they flowers appreciate. 1:03:52.160 --> 1:03:55.200 Man. I'm really like, man, you guys, what you did. 1:03:55.200 --> 1:03:57.920 Is legendary, but you continue to do is legendary. I 1:03:58.040 --> 1:03:59.560 love the fact that y'all still in the row. 1:04:00.040 --> 1:04:00.400 Other facts. 1:04:00.400 --> 1:04:02.200 It was like, yeah, they're gonna do sound check, right, 1:04:02.200 --> 1:04:06.560 now I said, damn, still, you told her like a wrestler. 1:04:06.600 --> 1:04:08.200 Let's do that like. 1:04:12.920 --> 1:04:19.880 Ste yes, yes, literal flowers. 1:04:23.640 --> 1:04:32.520 Yeah, this is crazy, ridiculous, it's better than you know. 1:04:32.560 --> 1:04:33.400 It's not a graphic, but. 1:04:37.400 --> 1:04:42.040 Because what you did is really really legendarius, ground breaking. 1:04:42.240 --> 1:04:43.960 I mean, I need to give you all these because. 1:04:43.720 --> 1:04:52.520 You know, yeah, don't take yeah, but write my car. 1:04:54.680 --> 1:04:55.280 This is gonna be. 1:04:55.520 --> 1:04:59.160 This is crazy what you did, and y'all continue to do. 1:05:00.840 --> 1:05:01.640 It's legendary. 1:05:01.760 --> 1:05:05.040 Man. We all owe you, you know, hip hop owes you. 1:05:05.640 --> 1:05:06.520 Or the fact that y'all. 1:05:06.400 --> 1:05:09.920 Stayed down, the fact that y'all stayed family. Yeah, that 1:05:10.200 --> 1:05:11.680 that is the first thing is. 1:05:13.440 --> 1:05:15.360 People people can't stay together two months. 1:05:18.440 --> 1:05:31.000 You've been together for decades. That's beautiful. And I'm not 1:05:31.120 --> 1:05:33.200 saying that to people to to just them. I'm saying 1:05:33.240 --> 1:05:35.440 that to people to here goes an example that you 1:05:35.480 --> 1:05:36.560 can you can actually do this. 1:05:37.400 --> 1:05:39.160 And here's a question I want to ask you. 1:05:39.400 --> 1:05:44.880 Right, you know, all the time the record labels would 1:05:45.480 --> 1:05:48.360 would always see that the guy artist, they call him 1:05:48.360 --> 1:05:50.440 the lead artists and call him the you know, the 1:05:50.520 --> 1:05:53.320 producer or whatever, and they always try to get him away, right, 1:05:53.920 --> 1:05:57.160 They always say, yo, you know what you can do 1:05:57.800 --> 1:05:59.880 the rest of development, But what do you think of 1:06:00.000 --> 1:06:02.680 about doing your own solo and doing your own and 1:06:02.800 --> 1:06:04.680 breaking off and you doing that? 1:06:07.400 --> 1:06:09.760 What made you not anticipate doing something like that? 1:06:11.920 --> 1:06:15.320 You know, It's funny because there was a lot of 1:06:15.360 --> 1:06:17.560 that going on, but on a micro level. 1:06:17.680 --> 1:06:22.560 So like at photo shoots, you would see the photographers say, hey, speech, 1:06:22.640 --> 1:06:24.800 come up to the front, come to the middle, do this, 1:06:25.000 --> 1:06:27.880 do that, headliner, you go back to the back, you know, 1:06:28.000 --> 1:06:28.960 like and. 1:06:30.600 --> 1:06:33.200 Those kind of things was happening all the time. I 1:06:33.240 --> 1:06:35.840 don't think the label ever told me to try to. 1:06:35.840 --> 1:06:37.720 Do a solo career. I did do a solo career, 1:06:37.760 --> 1:06:40.680 but it was after we took a break. We took 1:06:40.720 --> 1:06:43.200 a break from ninety five to two thousand. During that 1:06:43.360 --> 1:06:45.800 time period, I did start a solo career, but the 1:06:45.920 --> 1:06:49.560 label didn't push me to do that. So I would 1:06:49.600 --> 1:06:52.720 say that from a group perspective, I don't think they 1:06:52.760 --> 1:06:55.560 ever really the label ever really tried to make it like, 1:06:56.160 --> 1:06:58.200 you know, a speech thing or a headliner thing. 1:06:58.440 --> 1:07:01.720 I don't remember that, you know, Okay, yeah, I mean 1:07:01.800 --> 1:07:03.600 we had we definitely had our issues. 1:07:04.160 --> 1:07:06.200 Oh yeah, definitely had issues. 1:07:07.560 --> 1:07:13.560 But I think what's so important is just getting together 1:07:13.760 --> 1:07:17.160 and talking things through speech. And I like a few 1:07:17.200 --> 1:07:20.760 months back, we had a beautiful conversation about the earlier 1:07:20.920 --> 1:07:23.880 years because I've known this man since I was thirteen 1:07:24.000 --> 1:07:28.040 years old. So it's like it's kind of those type 1:07:28.040 --> 1:07:31.280 of relationships regardless of what you go through, you're gonna 1:07:31.320 --> 1:07:35.400 make it. You're gonna make it and so and we've 1:07:35.400 --> 1:07:39.920 been able. Like now my role position, so to speak, 1:07:40.040 --> 1:07:42.919 is I've been doing a lot of stuff behind the scene, 1:07:42.960 --> 1:07:44.160 producing with speech on. 1:07:44.360 --> 1:07:47.600 Videos and you give what I mean, and so and 1:07:48.720 --> 1:07:49.240 and rise. 1:07:49.320 --> 1:07:53.480 You know, we do like special shows because we're you know, 1:07:53.600 --> 1:07:55.640 two of the original members, so we have special shows 1:07:55.680 --> 1:07:57.560 with a group and I just am so grateful for 1:07:57.640 --> 1:08:00.960 these people here that are continued in the legacy and 1:08:01.120 --> 1:08:04.440 keep us right. So I mean, it's just at the 1:08:04.560 --> 1:08:08.520 end of the day, it's so important to just come 1:08:08.600 --> 1:08:13.080 together and heal. And I think we had a lot 1:08:13.120 --> 1:08:16.000 of time to heal over the years. You know, speech, 1:08:16.360 --> 1:08:18.840 you know, I know, he if you're okay, I know 1:08:19.160 --> 1:08:21.840 I notice been publics, but he was sick and sometimes 1:08:22.880 --> 1:08:25.840 you know, I've been I'm a breast cancer survivor, have 1:08:25.920 --> 1:08:27.599 been through different things and when. 1:08:27.479 --> 1:08:29.360 You when you face things like that in life. 1:08:29.439 --> 1:08:32.040 You like, you know what, my little tiff with him 1:08:32.160 --> 1:08:36.240 or her, it really ain't that important. What's important that 1:08:36.760 --> 1:08:38.840 you know, we we can feel good about being in 1:08:38.920 --> 1:08:41.360 each other's space and really loving each other for really, 1:08:41.840 --> 1:08:44.240 you know, like genuinely really loving each other and caring. 1:08:44.320 --> 1:08:47.400 Because the one thing that seems like your group has 1:08:47.479 --> 1:08:51.840 expanded absolutely as opposed that, like most people like they 1:08:51.960 --> 1:08:53.800 get trapped in this industry and they say, you know what, 1:08:54.000 --> 1:08:54.360 I got to. 1:08:54.320 --> 1:08:59.360 Split the pot four ways, yea. And the fact is, like, that's. 1:08:59.240 --> 1:09:01.840 Why I broke up to a freaking family thing is 1:09:01.920 --> 1:09:04.240 because I feel like it's I feel like to y'all 1:09:05.040 --> 1:09:07.080 outside of looking at the inside of looking out, I 1:09:07.160 --> 1:09:10.240 feel like family is more deeply rooted into y'all. 1:09:11.080 --> 1:09:14.680 Really important with us. It's a big deal with us. Vibrations, 1:09:14.760 --> 1:09:18.360 that energy, like all of that stuff. We talk about 1:09:18.360 --> 1:09:20.840 a lot in this crew, and it's a very big 1:09:20.920 --> 1:09:24.000 deal for how we run things. We run things very 1:09:24.080 --> 1:09:26.439 different than a lot of other people do, but it 1:09:26.560 --> 1:09:27.160 works for us. 1:09:27.640 --> 1:09:29.240 Seeing everybody's growth has been. 1:09:29.160 --> 1:09:38.160 So beautiful, beautiful because we listen, we's like. 1:09:42.640 --> 1:09:43.519 Would to that point. 1:09:43.600 --> 1:09:45.840 One of the things that I loved about being in 1:09:45.920 --> 1:09:49.160 this in this group is that if you've ever been 1:09:49.240 --> 1:09:53.040 in the band, you're a part of the band. Everybody 1:09:53.200 --> 1:09:56.840 from from early days, so if you've done a couple 1:09:56.880 --> 1:10:00.679 of shows, you're part of you're a part of the band. 1:10:00.800 --> 1:10:03.799 And when I came after. 1:10:03.920 --> 1:10:07.760 She speech never was like, Okay, she did this, so 1:10:07.840 --> 1:10:10.120 you gotta do this is what she did, so you 1:10:10.200 --> 1:10:13.360 got to do exactly what she did. He's the everybody's 1:10:13.479 --> 1:10:16.679 unique thing that you bring to the band is the band. 1:10:16.840 --> 1:10:20.160 That's the band, not one particular vibe. 1:10:20.160 --> 1:10:23.240 It's like we we all bring the energy, like there's 1:10:23.240 --> 1:10:26.560 a foundational energy that's that needs to be there that 1:10:26.680 --> 1:10:29.760 anybody that has been in the in the band embodied 1:10:29.840 --> 1:10:30.479 that energy. 1:10:32.960 --> 1:10:35.320 Now there's a lot of women that's rocking ball has now. 1:10:35.560 --> 1:10:37.200 She was like the originator. 1:10:38.400 --> 1:10:42.840 And you know what, Dion rocked one too, and yeah, 1:10:42.880 --> 1:10:43.360 I love. 1:10:46.560 --> 1:10:51.280 Like back then it was looked at like an Apple Central. 1:10:52.560 --> 1:10:53.080 South too. 1:10:53.240 --> 1:10:56.800 I got oh wow, I did you know. 1:10:57.800 --> 1:10:59.479 A lot of men will say why did you cut 1:10:59.520 --> 1:10:59.840 your hair? 1:11:00.080 --> 1:11:05.160 That's your glory and but I just felt comfortable like 1:11:05.240 --> 1:11:06.680 that headline used to cut my hair. 1:11:06.840 --> 1:11:11.240 Okay, headline, okay, headliners. 1:11:13.800 --> 1:11:16.880 Yeah, so I would be walking around. Yeah, bald head. 1:11:16.960 --> 1:11:20.400 I mean I just recently started warning back now, but yeah, 1:11:20.600 --> 1:11:22.519 I loved it. It was such a freedom in it. 1:11:22.680 --> 1:11:26.280 And even now when like when I went through my breast, 1:11:26.320 --> 1:11:29.000 hands out shape, you know, shave it off started all over. 1:11:29.200 --> 1:11:32.559 Okay, yeah, I still do it. Okay, okay, okay, because 1:11:32.560 --> 1:11:33.519 you're knowing for that one. 1:11:35.080 --> 1:11:36.280 The blind and short blind. 1:11:36.680 --> 1:11:41.000 Yeah, let's do a quick time I think. Okay, you 1:11:41.080 --> 1:11:45.759 got your said it all right. This is our drinking 1:11:45.840 --> 1:11:50.680 game that we're gonna play. Obviously, you don't whenever you're drinking. 1:11:51.960 --> 1:11:52.320 Michael B. 1:11:52.439 --> 1:11:53.120 Jordan's drinking. 1:11:53.560 --> 1:12:01.000 Okay, okay, okay, I got socky. That's different. I don't 1:12:01.040 --> 1:12:05.080 know what soot. 1:12:05.120 --> 1:12:07.600 We're going to give you, guys two choices, and you 1:12:07.760 --> 1:12:11.040 pick one and we don't drink. But if you say 1:12:11.160 --> 1:12:13.560 both are neither, so basically you don't really want to 1:12:13.560 --> 1:12:15.719 answer the question, then we all drink. 1:12:16.600 --> 1:12:17.559 Some of us say one. 1:12:24.840 --> 1:12:27.840 I mean, this is disorganized anyway, But the real, the 1:12:27.880 --> 1:12:29.639 real point of this is not to peck people against 1:12:29.680 --> 1:12:31.519 each other the question. It's really to bring up any 1:12:31.760 --> 1:12:34.519 any stories you might have with that's really it's really 1:12:34.520 --> 1:12:35.840 to bring up names because we want to talk. 1:12:35.720 --> 1:12:40.360 About, you know, positively about people. Thank you, ad appreciate 1:12:40.400 --> 1:12:44.559 it all right? Public enemy or n w A who 1:12:44.640 --> 1:12:46.800 you pointing at? We're gonna start with. 1:12:48.680 --> 1:12:50.320 Public enemy, public enemy. 1:12:52.479 --> 1:12:55.240 Yeah, tribe called quests or brand new. 1:12:55.240 --> 1:13:04.240 View quiz quests big l or Biggie. 1:13:07.080 --> 1:13:11.720 Big big, big girl. Okay, I think you might have 1:13:11.760 --> 1:13:12.679 to drink just because. 1:13:19.400 --> 1:13:22.840 I caught that let's do it was beef Okay, rock him? Okay, 1:13:22.920 --> 1:13:30.799 rest one, that's that was both, but that we gotta drink. 1:13:32.479 --> 1:13:38.880 Cheers. I like drinking out cast ghetto boys. 1:13:40.840 --> 1:13:42.000 I don't even know who else you said. 1:13:43.360 --> 1:13:45.960 Okay, I. 1:13:47.680 --> 1:13:50.080 Don't remember any stories, but anybody we mentioned, if you've 1:13:50.080 --> 1:13:53.760 got a story that pops off means telling us obviously outcasts, 1:13:54.120 --> 1:13:55.360 you know that's. 1:13:55.760 --> 1:14:01.000 From them, absolutely form one that they got their name 1:14:01.160 --> 1:14:02.320 from the the dreads. 1:14:03.040 --> 1:14:05.720 Because I say outcast, I don't know. I'm not saying 1:14:05.760 --> 1:14:07.000 they did, but I don't. 1:14:06.800 --> 1:14:07.560 Know if they did or not. 1:14:08.000 --> 1:14:10.040 I danced in their Rose Parks video. 1:14:11.840 --> 1:14:12.080 Video. 1:14:12.200 --> 1:14:15.840 Yeah, yeah, yeah, shout out how can Yeah? 1:14:15.920 --> 1:14:16.880 Our cast is major? 1:14:16.960 --> 1:14:19.879 I mean and and to me, to me, they always 1:14:21.000 --> 1:14:23.000 anything that they might have been inspired by by what 1:14:23.120 --> 1:14:25.880 we did. They took it so much further and that 1:14:26.120 --> 1:14:28.600 always just blows my mind, like how far they took it. 1:14:29.120 --> 1:14:31.439 As much as we love our cast, I do know 1:14:31.760 --> 1:14:33.920 all words of my my mind playing trees. 1:14:33.960 --> 1:14:51.880 Yeah, right, planets. I just wanted to say, I just 1:14:51.920 --> 1:14:54.840 wanted to say something back to you. Just you know, 1:14:55.520 --> 1:14:59.000 my mind's playing tricks on me. I'm a grown ass man. 1:14:59.280 --> 1:15:07.080 I still get kind of scared when I still. 1:15:08.800 --> 1:15:16.320 Yeah, I smoked out with. 1:15:18.560 --> 1:15:22.960 Wild Man. Yeah, he's a different one. 1:15:23.439 --> 1:15:25.280 I used to promote shows. So I used to do 1:15:25.520 --> 1:15:30.040 concerts and I brought outcasts. I brought there's somebody else, 1:15:30.200 --> 1:15:35.240 goodie mob outcasts, Fujis brought Fuji So like for me, 1:15:35.479 --> 1:15:38.200 like where were these shows at in Atlanta? I used 1:15:38.240 --> 1:15:40.799 to promote huge shows, well huge rap shows in Atlanta, 1:15:41.240 --> 1:15:43.559 and so yeah, I brought all of them to the shows. 1:15:43.640 --> 1:15:46.839 So yeah, and I'm assuming early on, right in their careers, early. 1:15:46.720 --> 1:15:48.720 On, h early on, but what they was already, they 1:15:48.800 --> 1:15:50.760 was already huge, you know, like doing their things. You 1:15:50.760 --> 1:15:52.920 know what I'm saying. But there's it was. It was great. 1:15:53.040 --> 1:15:53.519 It was great. 1:15:53.760 --> 1:15:59.840 Yeah, far Side or Souls a Mischief, which. 1:15:59.720 --> 1:16:02.080 We too with them, just we literally just got off 1:16:02.120 --> 1:16:05.320 the road with them, and and I think They have 1:16:05.439 --> 1:16:07.080 a tour right now for Sight and Soul of mischie 1:16:07.360 --> 1:16:09.759 shows right now, which is yeah, yeah, we would love. 1:16:09.680 --> 1:16:10.800 To do shows with Souls and. 1:16:13.160 --> 1:16:14.759 Shout out to the far Sight. I went to school 1:16:14.760 --> 1:16:17.760 with the Flips, shout out the six Way. 1:16:18.120 --> 1:16:21.200 Yeah, heavy D or your rock. 1:16:21.760 --> 1:16:22.680 Heavy heavy D. 1:16:22.920 --> 1:16:23.240 I was. 1:16:27.560 --> 1:16:28.719 Heavy dance. 1:16:30.880 --> 1:16:32.719 Recipe. It's amazing. 1:16:33.439 --> 1:16:36.680 I love this question right here, X clan or parts teachers. 1:16:37.960 --> 1:16:38.000 Me. 1:16:38.240 --> 1:16:42.080 I'm gonna say X clan, But I like righteous teachers. 1:16:42.160 --> 1:16:43.160 I love both of them. 1:16:43.160 --> 1:16:47.360 But plan came teachers right so very close. 1:16:49.400 --> 1:16:53.280 Actually, yeah, you're drinking. 1:16:58.240 --> 1:17:01.680 All right. Main source of third Base m for me, 1:17:01.960 --> 1:17:04.320 It's gonna be main source for me. It's third Base. 1:17:05.240 --> 1:17:05.599 Mm hmm. 1:17:06.200 --> 1:17:06.640 I like that. 1:17:08.000 --> 1:17:08.519 Main source. 1:17:08.760 --> 1:17:09.959 Main source from popcorn. 1:17:11.520 --> 1:17:15.120 Yeah, we got popcorn from third Base from I'm gonna 1:17:17.360 --> 1:17:18.160 interesting story. 1:17:18.880 --> 1:17:23.439 We did a show with Third Base arrested Development and Naughty, 1:17:25.000 --> 1:17:29.680 and I was backstage with Trench Search and speech and 1:17:30.320 --> 1:17:33.160 I didn't know all my career people come up to 1:17:33.200 --> 1:17:43.280 me and say yo trash or yo search, but I 1:17:43.320 --> 1:17:46.120 didn't know what was happening to them too. He took 1:17:46.160 --> 1:17:48.840 a special picture just exactly. 1:17:50.479 --> 1:17:53.040 All of us have been mistaken all the time by 1:17:53.160 --> 1:17:58.000 people saying speech you know, yeah, it's hilarious. 1:17:58.160 --> 1:17:59.880 Yeah, run DMC or Beastie Boys. 1:18:04.640 --> 1:18:06.080 That's a really good one. But I have to say 1:18:07.080 --> 1:18:08.960 Brandy would. 1:18:08.760 --> 1:18:13.679 Say Indian like they would say. 1:18:15.960 --> 1:18:17.120 Least these were incredible to. 1:18:20.200 --> 1:18:27.080 Sleep to, revolution, crazy and incredible for everybody black m. 1:18:27.200 --> 1:18:32.839 J or Michael Jackson. I mean, Prince, we know what gonna. 1:18:32.600 --> 1:18:34.160 Say, but I'm saying Michael Jackson. 1:18:34.479 --> 1:18:35.400 Michael Jackson. 1:18:37.760 --> 1:18:40.680 Says Princes from the Lake of Miltitoba. 1:18:47.840 --> 1:18:50.120 But I mean, to me, it's just all the instruments 1:18:50.160 --> 1:18:52.960 the brother played all he was crazy with it. He's 1:18:53.080 --> 1:18:56.280 you know, he's not just an amazing and entertainer, which 1:18:56.280 --> 1:19:01.400 he was, but he was also just this multi instrumentalist, songwriter, producer. 1:19:01.479 --> 1:19:03.640 I mean, I mean, come on, you know. 1:19:05.400 --> 1:19:13.600 Story got a million? Which one do you think about this? 1:19:16.439 --> 1:19:18.240 I was thinking of the one when he invited us 1:19:18.240 --> 1:19:18.800 to the club. 1:19:19.840 --> 1:19:21.400 Tell me that story, cause I forget about. 1:19:22.920 --> 1:19:24.920 The loss thing happened. 1:19:25.439 --> 1:19:27.960 Oh yeah, okay, so yeah, so okay, now I know 1:19:28.000 --> 1:19:30.800 what you're talking about. So Prince, I'm a uge fan 1:19:30.880 --> 1:19:36.439 of Prince. I sampled Tennessee his word from Alphabet Street. 1:19:36.479 --> 1:19:38.720 He says, I want to take it to my back 1:19:38.800 --> 1:19:42.680 seat and drive a to Tennessee, and I grabbed that 1:19:42.760 --> 1:19:44.200 Tennessee for Tennessee. 1:19:44.479 --> 1:19:49.599 And sample it throughout the song, and the song went. 1:19:49.560 --> 1:19:52.280 To it was going up the charts and went to 1:19:52.360 --> 1:19:54.120 number one on the rap charts, number one on the 1:19:54.240 --> 1:19:57.000 R and B charts, and then it went to number six, 1:19:57.040 --> 1:19:58.679 I want to say, on the pop charts or whatever 1:19:58.680 --> 1:20:01.360 they call it, the hot one hundred. And the day 1:20:01.400 --> 1:20:04.080 it went down to number seven, our office got a 1:20:04.200 --> 1:20:07.400 call from Prince saying he wanted some money for that, 1:20:07.680 --> 1:20:10.160 that that word Tennessee, and so we had to pay 1:20:10.200 --> 1:20:11.680 him a hundred thousand dollars, which was. 1:20:13.880 --> 1:20:15.640 Then exact back then. 1:20:15.760 --> 1:20:18.320 And the truth is he gave he did us a 1:20:18.360 --> 1:20:21.880 favorite because that could have been he could have told 1:20:21.960 --> 1:20:23.400 us to take it off the shelf like this, He 1:20:23.720 --> 1:20:24.000 got his. 1:20:24.040 --> 1:20:26.920 Whole record taken off the record. Yeah, the whole record. 1:20:27.000 --> 1:20:28.960 He could have asked for any percentage he wanted for that. 1:20:29.160 --> 1:20:31.280 Because y'all have already did it without person. 1:20:31.200 --> 1:20:32.879 Already exactly exactly. 1:20:33.320 --> 1:20:36.000 And so what instead what he did is just ask 1:20:36.080 --> 1:20:38.280 for cash. He got one hundred thousand dollars right off 1:20:38.320 --> 1:20:38.800 the rit for that. 1:20:40.080 --> 1:20:42.519 He was showing up at all. That shows he was, 1:20:42.600 --> 1:20:43.680 and we did shows. 1:20:43.360 --> 1:20:45.160 At his club too, and he was up there we 1:20:45.360 --> 1:20:48.080 uh got man got mad and us Yeah. 1:20:48.200 --> 1:20:50.240 At glam Slam in the middle that my record mother 1:20:57.840 --> 1:20:59.280 here showing up with high hells like that. 1:21:10.240 --> 1:21:15.240 I was like, all right, cool, he got hurble, he 1:21:15.360 --> 1:21:16.200 wants some crazy. 1:21:19.680 --> 1:21:23.800 One of my favorite champs ever is I said with 1:21:24.080 --> 1:21:26.400 Nas And I asked Nas, I said, I don't feel 1:21:26.400 --> 1:21:27.760 like no one ever told Nas no? 1:21:28.680 --> 1:21:30.840 And he goes, yeah, someone told me no, And I go, 1:21:31.000 --> 1:21:32.559 who you go, Prince? 1:21:32.880 --> 1:21:36.720 Oh yeah, and then he goes, uh, Prince asked me, 1:21:36.800 --> 1:21:37.919 did I own my masters? 1:21:39.560 --> 1:21:42.759 I heard, and I said no, I don't owe my masters. 1:21:42.760 --> 1:21:44.160 And he said, well, come see me when you owe 1:21:44.200 --> 1:21:46.920 my masters, and when you're on your master, your master's 1:21:47.360 --> 1:21:49.800 And you wouldn't think that's like a harsh sting saying 1:21:49.880 --> 1:21:52.800 to a younger artist coming up in the game, but 1:21:52.920 --> 1:21:56.160 it's probably the exact statement that you need to hear. 1:21:56.360 --> 1:22:00.760 Yeah, you went forward in this game. Maybe maybe it 1:22:00.880 --> 1:22:01.599 was like that Mike Tyson. 1:22:01.640 --> 1:22:03.360 You ever see Mike Tyson with a little girl said 1:22:03.439 --> 1:22:10.160 where's your legacy? And Mike Tyson like legacy. Maybe it 1:22:10.320 --> 1:22:15.320 was that moment for Nas with Rents. But maybe moving forward. 1:22:15.439 --> 1:22:17.800 NAS needed to hear that, you understand I'm saying, And 1:22:18.120 --> 1:22:19.519 we don't know that with Mike Tyson. I don't know 1:22:19.520 --> 1:22:23.760 if y'all seen this for this, but was the moment 1:22:23.840 --> 1:22:30.040 she did need to hear too. I just I'm sorry, 1:22:30.080 --> 1:22:34.920 but that's crazy. So when you hear Prince he was 1:22:35.040 --> 1:22:38.519 so advanced in this game. You see about the slave tattoo, 1:22:38.800 --> 1:22:41.479 and you realize that years later, I had to buy 1:22:41.560 --> 1:22:43.040 my own name back, and I'm. 1:22:42.960 --> 1:22:45.600 Like, when he changed his name to the sign to 1:22:46.640 --> 1:22:49.720 I didn't know that then. I didn't know that. Yeah, 1:22:49.760 --> 1:22:51.240 he was. He was definitely fighting that fight. 1:22:51.360 --> 1:22:53.560 Yeah, And to be honest, he might have been the 1:22:53.640 --> 1:22:56.800 first in our generation, like in our general generation, to 1:22:56.960 --> 1:22:59.439 fight that fight on such a public platform, you know 1:22:59.439 --> 1:22:59.840 what I mean. 1:22:59.840 --> 1:23:02.880 Like and say against the machine, against the machine that's 1:23:03.080 --> 1:23:04.559 showing us exactly right. 1:23:06.360 --> 1:23:10.200 But see that was a whole nother you know, because 1:23:10.280 --> 1:23:15.080 Sam Cook did it as well. And you are right then, yes, 1:23:15.160 --> 1:23:18.040 all right? What was on that? Yeah? All right? I 1:23:18.320 --> 1:23:22.880 argue that ship right, all right? A ball m J 1:23:23.040 --> 1:23:26.960 G or Goodie mob. I gotta say goodie mom. 1:23:27.760 --> 1:23:28.880 I gotta say goodie mob. 1:23:30.800 --> 1:23:34.160 You know from the South with good. 1:23:37.960 --> 1:23:40.680 When I tell you, I can pick my friends by 1:23:40.760 --> 1:23:42.080 how much they know about a ball. 1:23:42.240 --> 1:23:47.360 M you like, do you know this song? 1:23:48.240 --> 1:23:49.360 Do you know nine millimeters? 1:23:49.400 --> 1:23:49.719 Boys? 1:23:49.920 --> 1:23:50.080 Right? 1:23:53.120 --> 1:23:53.720 Goodie mob? 1:23:53.840 --> 1:23:58.439 Though, all right, black Star, dead Press, that's. 1:24:01.720 --> 1:24:03.519 I'm gonna have to say both for me. I can't. 1:24:03.560 --> 1:24:03.840 I can't. 1:24:04.000 --> 1:24:05.640 I can't. I can't say one or the other. 1:24:05.840 --> 1:24:09.720 I just can't do it. Wow. Yes, And by the way, 1:24:09.840 --> 1:24:13.920 dead Press, whatever, y'all we missed y'all. Man, everyone's in Africa. 1:24:14.000 --> 1:24:15.439 I think he moved to Africa. I want to go 1:24:15.479 --> 1:24:15.880 to Africa. 1:24:17.680 --> 1:24:29.000 Yeah, shut and man, they're great for you, man, Florida. 1:24:25.880 --> 1:24:28.439 That okay, that's don't know they weren't there. 1:24:29.520 --> 1:24:29.720 Yeah. 1:24:31.800 --> 1:24:34.679 See, to me, both of them made such an impact 1:24:34.840 --> 1:24:36.720 and a totally you know, in the same way. 1:24:36.800 --> 1:24:38.160 But just I can't. 1:24:38.200 --> 1:24:38.559 I can't. 1:24:38.840 --> 1:24:41.360 For me, I can't choose either one as more important 1:24:41.400 --> 1:24:43.320 to me, Like Black Star. 1:24:43.520 --> 1:24:49.840 Because you know that Kanye made that beak that Yeah, 1:24:50.600 --> 1:24:55.840 Alchemist told us that we searched it, we researched it, 1:24:56.000 --> 1:24:56.600 we researched it. 1:24:56.680 --> 1:25:00.200 Yeah, it's kind of yeah, it's kind of like up 1:25:00.240 --> 1:25:00.719 in the air. 1:25:02.600 --> 1:25:03.160 Baseline. 1:25:03.280 --> 1:25:09.880 I'm going to ask I'm going to text that more baseline. Yeah, say, 1:25:14.600 --> 1:25:17.600 oh yeah, yeah, yeah what sorry, was he signed to 1:25:17.680 --> 1:25:22.200 produce already? I don't I don't remember. I don't remember, 1:25:22.240 --> 1:25:24.120 but I know that he had something to do with 1:25:24.160 --> 1:25:26.960 that production for sure. That but that's crazy. I't never 1:25:27.040 --> 1:25:34.120 heard of that. That's yeah. 1:25:34.280 --> 1:25:39.000 Lord, well, well he was a part of that, like 1:25:39.240 --> 1:25:43.439 dead press, like that's right, that h like I think 1:25:43.560 --> 1:25:45.280 helping them get the deal and yeah, like a whole 1:25:45.360 --> 1:25:48.280 I did not know that brand new and helped a 1:25:48.320 --> 1:25:48.840 lot of folks. 1:25:48.880 --> 1:25:53.640 Man, Yeah, yeah, we had Lord mar I guess I 1:25:53.640 --> 1:25:54.599 don't have to ask the questions. 1:25:57.840 --> 1:26:00.400 What were saying about Lord Moore said, we had Lord 1:26:00.479 --> 1:26:03.200 of Wall and it's his doc right, want we want 1:26:03.240 --> 1:26:05.000 the whole brand New being together, and we would need. 1:26:04.960 --> 1:26:07.120 Your Grandpool, but we haven't had Grandpooper yet. Man. 1:26:07.280 --> 1:26:09.599 I actually like Grandpoopa's album. He just dropped it out. 1:26:11.200 --> 1:26:12.799 He dropped it out either late last. 1:26:12.640 --> 1:26:13.400 Year or early this year. 1:26:13.400 --> 1:26:15.360 I forget because it's you know, it's been nine or 1:26:15.360 --> 1:26:17.160 ten months. But yeah, it was dope. 1:26:17.200 --> 1:26:17.600 I like it. 1:26:17.760 --> 1:26:19.719 I liked the shot Grandpool He's dope. 1:26:19.800 --> 1:26:23.400 Oh yeah, what's the next one. Let's see what we are? 1:26:24.800 --> 1:26:30.360 Ice Cuba comment or common cute. Ice C's tough. 1:26:30.439 --> 1:26:31.559 For me, I'm gonna have to say. 1:26:34.320 --> 1:26:35.160 It's crazy. 1:26:35.400 --> 1:26:37.280 It was really Yeah, yeah they did. 1:26:37.880 --> 1:26:40.040 But I got to say both for them because they 1:26:40.080 --> 1:26:41.120 did barbershop together. 1:26:42.040 --> 1:26:43.120 Yeah, they came, they came together. 1:26:44.000 --> 1:26:44.680 I didn't even know that. 1:26:44.840 --> 1:26:46.000 Yeah, I know that. 1:26:47.920 --> 1:26:50.040 That comment was such a cool guy. 1:26:50.160 --> 1:26:53.720 He's such a good spirit. He's a very kind I 1:26:53.840 --> 1:26:54.160 mean to. 1:26:54.200 --> 1:26:57.160 Me, those early ice Cube days, like his first number 1:26:57.200 --> 1:27:04.080 of solo bes that just from CERTI I could never 1:27:04.200 --> 1:27:07.920 put anything above that easily, Like, yeah, of course common 1:27:08.040 --> 1:27:09.360 is just He's ridiculous. 1:27:09.400 --> 1:27:10.839 I mean, I love that brother. 1:27:12.960 --> 1:27:15.080 All right. E p m D. Or Pete Rock and 1:27:15.120 --> 1:27:15.719 Steal Smooth. 1:27:17.160 --> 1:27:18.560 For me, I'm gonna say E p m D. 1:27:18.680 --> 1:27:19.320 Although I love. 1:27:20.840 --> 1:27:22.120 Yeah, we're gonna go. 1:27:23.840 --> 1:27:29.680 Yeah, I'm saying or Pete Smooth. We say both of 1:27:29.720 --> 1:27:49.280 them both official group. You're right, I mean would say 1:27:49.439 --> 1:27:52.160 p m D because came before. 1:27:53.240 --> 1:27:57.040 Yeah, yeah, definitely, man, that stuff their albums is just major. 1:27:57.080 --> 1:27:58.240 And we just did a show with them too. 1:27:58.600 --> 1:28:01.599 Y E p m D. You do shows with everybody. 1:28:01.680 --> 1:28:02.120 Let's make some. 1:28:06.000 --> 1:28:06.519 Your favorite. 1:28:07.280 --> 1:28:10.519 I love that, I love that. I love It's a 1:28:10.680 --> 1:28:14.880 tough one. They lost so Jungle Brothers. That is tough. 1:28:15.280 --> 1:28:24.280 Wow, you're gonna have to say Daylight. I'm gonna have 1:28:24.320 --> 1:28:24.640 to say that. 1:28:26.960 --> 1:28:29.639 But it was tough one because to me, Jungle Brothers 1:28:29.720 --> 1:28:33.439 brought Daylight, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, so that's 1:28:34.040 --> 1:28:38.880 but Daylight to me, the catalog is just so you know, expansive. 1:28:38.880 --> 1:28:40.719 I mean, just think they brought to your table. 1:28:40.760 --> 1:28:44.080 I mean your last year you did was it the 1:28:44.720 --> 1:28:47.439 the Love the Hollywood Bowl and they were there. 1:28:48.240 --> 1:28:51.280 It was just the energy was so amazing. 1:28:51.600 --> 1:28:54.400 Fact, there's so many people on this boy. 1:28:55.080 --> 1:28:55.280 Yeah. 1:28:55.479 --> 1:28:59.040 I just remember before when we were in Africa. 1:28:59.400 --> 1:29:00.519 Yeah, before we went. 1:29:02.680 --> 1:29:03.160 With Daylight. 1:29:03.280 --> 1:29:05.960 Oh, it was just such a South Africa too. In 1:29:06.080 --> 1:29:07.000 South Africa. 1:29:07.120 --> 1:29:11.960 Question, yeah, yeah, in South Africa it has black people, 1:29:12.040 --> 1:29:13.519 right because I always debate with him. 1:29:14.600 --> 1:29:16.880 Yeah ninety seven percent. 1:29:17.040 --> 1:29:20.559 Yeah yeah, I told you, I know, I know, baby 1:29:20.920 --> 1:29:21.479 playing around. 1:29:22.360 --> 1:29:26.080 Yeah yeah, in South Africa. So we did the first 1:29:26.080 --> 1:29:28.520 time I went to South Africa was in nineteen. 1:29:28.280 --> 1:29:32.400 Ninety four and with Nelson Madella we did. We spoke 1:29:32.479 --> 1:29:34.960 with him and I spoke right before him. 1:29:34.960 --> 1:29:37.519 It was amazing. That was like it was amazing. And 1:29:37.680 --> 1:29:40.280 then we shot one of our videos and not in front. 1:29:40.840 --> 1:29:45.200 Antoine was our Yeah, the director that did on training day. Yeah, 1:29:45.360 --> 1:29:46.160 he did our video. 1:29:46.760 --> 1:29:49.120 Yeah, a song called United Front. 1:29:49.200 --> 1:29:50.240 Yep, you're not in Front. 1:29:50.360 --> 1:29:52.240 I did it in South ain't get a gang in 1:29:52.320 --> 1:29:54.200 South Africa to United Front, know what? 1:29:56.760 --> 1:29:57.280 Not in Front? 1:30:07.479 --> 1:30:10.000 I saw with the two kids walking down the dirt road. 1:30:10.160 --> 1:30:13.240 That was album cover. That was in South Africa. 1:30:13.280 --> 1:30:16.200 That was That's what I remember. I think that was 1:30:17.000 --> 1:30:17.920 Headliner was saying. 1:30:17.960 --> 1:30:18.200 That was. 1:30:18.680 --> 1:30:20.840 That was an amazing little moment. 1:30:22.520 --> 1:30:28.839 You gotta got Lauren Hill or Queen Latifa? Are you serious? 1:30:29.080 --> 1:30:30.759 Queen and Tifa help my baby? 1:30:34.439 --> 1:30:34.679 Yeah? 1:30:34.800 --> 1:30:37.200 She she just came to say both for me. 1:30:37.280 --> 1:30:38.800 I can't say one of the other. 1:30:40.240 --> 1:30:41.320 One time when I saw her. 1:30:44.080 --> 1:30:48.000 Tifa as a young woman coming up and you know, 1:30:48.120 --> 1:30:50.640 before I got into rested, I would look up to 1:30:50.760 --> 1:30:53.599 her and I had all the crowns like the cat 1:30:53.800 --> 1:30:55.960 she used to wear the crown and I was like, 1:30:56.080 --> 1:30:59.600 I like this woman because to me she represented a 1:30:59.760 --> 1:31:03.000 cur hervy black woman and I can relate. 1:31:03.240 --> 1:31:05.439 And she said you why, oh my? 1:31:10.120 --> 1:31:13.240 She was just powerful, just everything about her just powerful. 1:31:13.800 --> 1:31:15.160 Damn covered up and. 1:31:17.160 --> 1:31:20.360 Were yes uns. 1:31:26.080 --> 1:31:28.720 Show trying to. 1:31:28.720 --> 1:31:31.800 Get her on the show. Yeah, Queena tifas she's but 1:31:31.880 --> 1:31:32.799 of course Lauren. 1:31:32.640 --> 1:31:35.920 Hill is absolutely We're not taking that away, not at all. 1:31:36.360 --> 1:31:39.280 And when shout la on her, Lauren Hill, let's talk 1:31:39.280 --> 1:31:42.080 about that mis education. 1:31:43.640 --> 1:31:46.720 Is a very kind spirit. She she is such a 1:31:46.880 --> 1:31:48.360 sweet person. 1:31:48.600 --> 1:31:52.800 She's Yeah, we we tour with her many times, an 1:31:52.880 --> 1:31:56.360 incredible career. And Lauren, I mean, like. 1:31:56.439 --> 1:31:58.559 I said, I brought Lauren Well, I brought the Fujis 1:31:58.640 --> 1:32:00.880 to Atlanta. They opened for us in Europe to I 1:32:00.920 --> 1:32:03.160 don't know if you remember that opened the front a 1:32:03.240 --> 1:32:03.720 lot of times. 1:32:04.160 --> 1:32:05.280 So we've known that for years. 1:32:06.479 --> 1:32:10.800 Yeah. Black Thought or Andre three thousands, no, no, you 1:32:10.920 --> 1:32:17.599 t t top of I gotta go both. Definitely both. 1:32:19.280 --> 1:32:20.160 Yeah, I have to say both. 1:32:20.360 --> 1:32:25.240 I have to say because they're they're two different there 1:32:25.280 --> 1:32:28.200 are dope, two different reasons. And we just we toured 1:32:28.280 --> 1:32:33.960 with Black Thought and the Roots and so yeah, they're awesome. 1:32:35.080 --> 1:32:38.519 Rod Digger, Lady of Rage, Oh my god, lay. 1:32:43.680 --> 1:32:50.719 Yeah I love Eire Yeah yeah, yeah. 1:32:51.680 --> 1:32:55.799 Rhap City or Lady London, Rhapsody. I'm gonna say Hapsody. 1:32:55.800 --> 1:32:57.799 We just did a show with Rhapsody too, So yeah. 1:32:57.720 --> 1:33:01.599 We we got another beautiful the last one to get 1:33:01.640 --> 1:33:02.320 back to the interview. 1:33:03.400 --> 1:33:12.040 Loyal to your respect, loyal respect, respect all the long. 1:33:12.720 --> 1:33:14.840 Yeah, I'll say they almost mean the same thing. 1:33:14.880 --> 1:33:16.240 That they mean the same thing. 1:33:16.400 --> 1:33:19.280 But if you don't have respect, what good is your loyalty? 1:33:19.800 --> 1:33:20.040 Come on? 1:33:20.600 --> 1:33:21.200 That was deep, but. 1:33:22.920 --> 1:33:24.040 Repect exactly? 1:33:24.120 --> 1:33:24.680 It comes one. 1:33:24.840 --> 1:33:27.240 You can't have one when I respect. 1:33:27.840 --> 1:33:29.960 But are you loyal though, because you're. 1:33:29.600 --> 1:33:32.560 Just inside the crew, you might be part of a 1:33:32.640 --> 1:33:35.040 sabotage you if I don't have If you don't respect, 1:33:35.439 --> 1:33:36.160 you gotta respect. 1:33:37.360 --> 1:33:37.719 Respect. 1:33:38.439 --> 1:33:38.800 Go ahead. 1:33:38.840 --> 1:33:40.880 I don't think I could be loyal to someone I 1:33:41.000 --> 1:33:41.759 didn't respect. 1:33:42.520 --> 1:33:43.519 There you go, there you go. 1:33:43.880 --> 1:33:45.400 That does make sense that. 1:33:45.560 --> 1:33:48.400 We didn't answer the question respect. 1:33:48.960 --> 1:33:50.879 I'm saying respect first and foremost. 1:33:52.439 --> 1:33:53.719 I'm gonna just drink because. 1:34:00.840 --> 1:34:03.479 The time that me and him we say that, this 1:34:03.640 --> 1:34:05.840 is the one time that we should say both. I 1:34:05.920 --> 1:34:09.559 do believe that loyalty and respect those That's that's. 1:34:09.400 --> 1:34:13.559 Why if you if you have to get both, give me. 1:34:16.160 --> 1:34:18.519 If you want you better be you're gonna be loyal 1:34:18.640 --> 1:34:19.280 because of your. 1:34:19.479 --> 1:34:21.280 Believe I believe that. I believe that. 1:34:25.280 --> 1:34:27.760 Is there anything that if you had and now with 1:34:27.920 --> 1:34:29.439 the conclusive quick time was fine? 1:34:30.080 --> 1:34:30.240 Good? 1:34:33.400 --> 1:34:35.600 But is it anything that if you guys had a 1:34:35.720 --> 1:34:37.920 chance to do over, you would do over? The like 1:34:38.400 --> 1:34:42.599 basically I'm asking, is it anything you regret this beautiful, 1:34:42.840 --> 1:34:44.280 illustrious career that you guys are. 1:34:45.360 --> 1:34:45.519 Yeah. 1:34:45.560 --> 1:34:47.439 I mean there's a few things I mentioned a couple. 1:34:47.560 --> 1:34:49.080 One is I wish. 1:34:50.560 --> 1:34:55.000 If I knew better in the early days, I would 1:34:55.120 --> 1:34:59.920 have figured out a way to make sure that every 1:35:00.080 --> 1:35:08.400 body in the group felt appreciated thoroughly by me. So 1:35:08.439 --> 1:35:11.200 I'm just speaking for me right now. And then the 1:35:11.280 --> 1:35:15.479 other thing I wish I would have known and done 1:35:15.560 --> 1:35:19.479 differently is when we finished our first album put it out. 1:35:19.560 --> 1:35:21.599 We sold four million albums, five million albums. 1:35:25.920 --> 1:35:29.559 The label was really rushing us to put out new material, 1:35:30.240 --> 1:35:32.760 and I wish I would have just waited and just 1:35:33.439 --> 1:35:35.639 took a little bit more time, took as much time 1:35:35.680 --> 1:35:39.120 as we needed, because I do feel like it just 1:35:39.160 --> 1:35:41.800 would have gave us a chance to check out the 1:35:41.920 --> 1:35:44.400 landscape of what was happening, you know, because Wu Tang 1:35:44.520 --> 1:35:47.120 was coming out, there was a whole different energy dropped 1:35:47.439 --> 1:35:51.640 all exactly, so it's like just seeing, Okay, this is 1:35:51.680 --> 1:35:54.760 what's happening. Okay, now, this is what we can contribute, 1:35:55.240 --> 1:35:56.479 you know what I'm saying. I think that that would 1:35:56.479 --> 1:35:59.120 have been a good play for us. So that's for 1:35:59.240 --> 1:36:01.799 me that's what I'm saying here anywhere else. 1:36:02.080 --> 1:36:07.760 Nope out Like I shouldn't say regrets or anything, but I. 1:36:09.880 --> 1:36:10.120 Okay. 1:36:10.560 --> 1:36:14.880 I feel like artists need the opportunity to experiment, Like 1:36:15.000 --> 1:36:19.040 we need the permission to suck, Like, make some stuff, 1:36:19.120 --> 1:36:22.519 let it be as wack as possible, because you're letting 1:36:22.600 --> 1:36:25.600 your creativity go as far as you can let it go, 1:36:26.160 --> 1:36:27.600 and then you kind of reel it back in it, 1:36:27.640 --> 1:36:29.720 you know what I mean. But sometimes artists, I think 1:36:29.800 --> 1:36:32.720 we feel like once the first album is dope, the 1:36:32.840 --> 1:36:35.120 next album everything has to be dope after that, and 1:36:35.160 --> 1:36:37.479 if it's not dope, then you fell off. And it's 1:36:37.520 --> 1:36:40.519 like your creativity doesn't get this chance to be able 1:36:40.560 --> 1:36:43.760 to grow. And growth isn't It is not comfortable, it's 1:36:43.840 --> 1:36:47.160 not pretty, and it's not always like you won't always 1:36:47.280 --> 1:36:48.800 be on top every single time. 1:36:48.880 --> 1:36:50.800 It's not always linear too, you know what I'm saying. 1:36:50.960 --> 1:36:52.439 Sometimes it's like that, you know what I mean. 1:36:52.600 --> 1:36:55.679 So giving artists to the opportunity to put some stuff 1:36:55.760 --> 1:36:59.120 out that's different and give it a chance, like we 1:36:59.240 --> 1:37:02.200 open to just here something different. 1:37:02.720 --> 1:37:05.599 That'd be the difference between industry and culture, industry and art. 1:37:06.160 --> 1:37:10.560 Yeah, and that that means what andre three thousand and 1:37:10.680 --> 1:37:15.280 outcasts to do a lot of different stuff for that 1:37:15.720 --> 1:37:17.120 period of time, and it was dope, you know. 1:37:17.760 --> 1:37:22.519 I think for me, I was all passion and I 1:37:22.560 --> 1:37:23.920 didn't know much about the business. 1:37:23.960 --> 1:37:25.760 So I was very green when I came in because 1:37:25.760 --> 1:37:28.599 I was so young, and then we didn't have the internet. 1:37:28.880 --> 1:37:29.040 You know. 1:37:30.040 --> 1:37:33.000 My mom, uh was an avid reader, So that's how 1:37:33.000 --> 1:37:33.559 I learned a. 1:37:33.640 --> 1:37:36.080 Lot about the industry actually through my mom just reading 1:37:36.160 --> 1:37:38.200 books and about the industry. 1:37:39.560 --> 1:37:43.879 But I was just all passion, all passion and no business. 1:37:44.520 --> 1:37:46.640 And so I think if I had to do it 1:37:46.720 --> 1:37:49.160 all over again, I would learned a lot more about 1:37:49.200 --> 1:37:52.240 the business. But back then someone literally had to take 1:37:52.280 --> 1:37:54.160 your hand and say just follow me, you know what 1:37:54.240 --> 1:37:56.640 I'm saying. It was just a different world back then, 1:37:57.360 --> 1:38:01.000 and I just I wanted to learn more from a 1:38:01.080 --> 1:38:04.639 business perspective because once we got out, the group. 1:38:04.479 --> 1:38:07.880 Came out, and just how everything moved so fast, and 1:38:08.080 --> 1:38:09.920 just how I was. 1:38:09.920 --> 1:38:12.400 In an adult world as a teenager, you know what 1:38:12.439 --> 1:38:15.200 I mean, And just how they were everything was more 1:38:15.320 --> 1:38:16.000 business than it. 1:38:16.120 --> 1:38:17.599 Was creative, you get what I'm saying. 1:38:17.920 --> 1:38:21.400 And then we spent more a lot of times being creative, 1:38:21.640 --> 1:38:24.519 you know, and parsing and stuff like that. So I 1:38:24.600 --> 1:38:29.400 didn't know about like copyrights and you know, writing, publishing, 1:38:29.560 --> 1:38:32.400 none of that stuff. So you know, learning through trial 1:38:32.479 --> 1:38:35.000 and narrow and then like latter years when we came 1:38:35.080 --> 1:38:36.920 back together and got to do records, we wrote. 1:38:37.160 --> 1:38:39.880 We wrote a lot of stuff on the. 1:38:40.880 --> 1:38:43.759 That was a third album, Your Hair's of the Harvest, 1:38:44.200 --> 1:38:47.320 So that was like our third album, and that was 1:38:47.560 --> 1:38:49.960 super fun. And you know a lot of growth had 1:38:50.000 --> 1:38:52.920 taken place through those years. Throughout those years, so you know, 1:38:53.160 --> 1:38:57.400 just just being in the industry, you know, not knowing 1:38:57.520 --> 1:38:59.080 how it really worked, you know. 1:38:59.240 --> 1:39:02.599 But honestly, I don't think we I mean speech, none 1:39:02.640 --> 1:39:02.800 of it. 1:39:03.120 --> 1:39:03.599 None of them. 1:39:07.800 --> 1:39:11.600 Yeah, it looking like yeah, yeah, I wouldn't do my 1:39:11.720 --> 1:39:12.840 own ship that you would do. 1:39:13.920 --> 1:39:14.519 I didn't know nothing. 1:39:14.840 --> 1:39:17.120 Yeah, That's why I tell a lot of young artists 1:39:17.200 --> 1:39:20.880 now when I do have a chance to talk to them, 1:39:20.960 --> 1:39:23.000 like learn as much as you can, you know, And 1:39:23.080 --> 1:39:26.800 relationships are so important. You know, a lot of people 1:39:26.960 --> 1:39:30.000 don't build relationships now like we used to back in 1:39:30.000 --> 1:39:30.719 the day because. 1:39:30.479 --> 1:39:32.360 We didn't have the internet. You had to get out 1:39:32.400 --> 1:39:34.360 and talk to people. I don't think we do that 1:39:34.439 --> 1:39:35.360 as much anymore. 1:39:35.600 --> 1:39:37.920 Yeah, it's something that if I could comment on what 1:39:38.040 --> 1:39:41.679 you just said his what's crazy about the new artists, 1:39:43.280 --> 1:39:45.439 They definitely don't need a label at all. 1:39:46.400 --> 1:39:50.000 True, Yes, like they don't need what we needed. 1:39:50.240 --> 1:39:55.000 Yeah, right, we needed a top forty record. We needed 1:39:55.280 --> 1:39:58.840 a record to go and travel right now, God bless me. 1:39:59.560 --> 1:40:02.840 NBA Young Boy is all over. He is selling out 1:40:02.880 --> 1:40:06.599 arena right now, and I don't know anybody in their 1:40:06.680 --> 1:40:08.439 thirties that could even quote a record. 1:40:08.520 --> 1:40:08.600 Now. 1:40:08.640 --> 1:40:11.080 What I'm saying about that, I'm not dissing him. I'm 1:40:11.080 --> 1:40:14.439 giving him light. What I'm saying is that people under 1:40:14.479 --> 1:40:17.400 thirty could be the people that's that's that's doing it, 1:40:18.080 --> 1:40:20.439 that's quoting his records. What I'm saying is that's an 1:40:20.479 --> 1:40:22.840 example to us. It's an example to people that came 1:40:23.240 --> 1:40:26.680 before us, example people that came that's coming after us. 1:40:27.080 --> 1:40:29.800 Is that look, we don't even need these people if 1:40:30.000 --> 1:40:33.240 really apply the pressure to ourselves and say, look, let's 1:40:33.320 --> 1:40:37.439 it's a direct to consumer market right now, let's just 1:40:37.520 --> 1:40:40.720 talk to them direct and NBA Young Boy, I don't 1:40:40.720 --> 1:40:43.200 know who's behind you. I see bird Man sometimes behind you, 1:40:43.240 --> 1:40:46.320 I see whatever. NBA Young Boy, you're a great example 1:40:46.400 --> 1:40:48.559 of that. I see you selling out Arenas, I see 1:40:48.600 --> 1:40:50.439 you doing this shit, and I see you it's like 1:40:50.600 --> 1:40:51.200 what your. 1:40:51.160 --> 1:40:55.000 Fans that is? That shit is something to that school. 1:40:55.000 --> 1:40:56.600 What we strive to do is like you know what. 1:40:58.720 --> 1:41:00.880 That's the beautiful thing about this part podcast. 1:41:02.880 --> 1:41:06.439 Is I remember like going on tour and they sending 1:41:06.520 --> 1:41:08.880 me to places that it didn't matter to my career. 1:41:10.160 --> 1:41:12.639 I had to pay for it anyway. Right, So let's 1:41:13.040 --> 1:41:16.679 I had to go to which is all Kansas? 1:41:16.800 --> 1:41:16.880 Right? 1:41:17.360 --> 1:41:19.600 I don't know, give me an example. I'm not saying that. 1:41:21.040 --> 1:41:22.639 I mean I go to which of God to Kansas 1:41:22.760 --> 1:41:25.520 or whatever, and it's three people at my instos. 1:41:26.720 --> 1:41:28.519 Yeah, yeah, there's three people. 1:41:28.600 --> 1:41:31.840 But I was right next door in Cleveland killing them. 1:41:32.400 --> 1:41:34.720 I was right on the block. And they didn't have 1:41:34.800 --> 1:41:38.640 the algorithms back then exactly. Now we actually have the algorithms. 1:41:38.080 --> 1:41:41.760 Where you can actually see and say, oh, listen, we're 1:41:41.800 --> 1:41:45.719 not going to do a forty city tour with Drink Canser. 1:41:45.760 --> 1:41:48.760 We'll do a twenty eight city tour. All of these 1:41:48.760 --> 1:41:50.200 twenty eight cities is going to matter. 1:41:50.320 --> 1:41:54.080 It's the market still writing Marcus our mars Yes, and 1:41:55.120 --> 1:41:58.920 you young brothers. That's out there. You got the algorithms. 1:41:59.360 --> 1:42:03.040 You have a advantage that we didn't have. Better take 1:42:03.120 --> 1:42:07.200 full advantage, and please continue to take full advantage, because 1:42:08.800 --> 1:42:15.639 this is like I love Leo Cohen, right, I don't 1:42:15.680 --> 1:42:18.240 care whoever feels about Leo. Come, that's who y'all feel. 1:42:18.560 --> 1:42:21.240 Your relationship with Leo Cohen told me this is one 1:42:21.280 --> 1:42:23.519 of the best times to get in the industry. And 1:42:23.600 --> 1:42:26.679 you say why, Okay, well, you don't got to press 1:42:26.760 --> 1:42:29.400 up an album. If you're producing your own album. You 1:42:29.479 --> 1:42:31.840 have a relationship with a person that's producing your own album, 1:42:32.080 --> 1:42:33.920 y'all can make a deal and you can say, you listen, 1:42:34.120 --> 1:42:35.840 let me do this, this and that, and then you 1:42:35.880 --> 1:42:40.280 can really own everything, get algorithms from the photography, everything, 1:42:40.479 --> 1:42:42.320 and it's not as expensive. 1:42:42.400 --> 1:42:44.040 Remember your album packaging was. 1:42:44.080 --> 1:42:47.519 One hundred and seventy thousand, when you can include it 1:42:48.439 --> 1:42:52.280 who you travel to your stylist and you know all 1:42:52.360 --> 1:42:55.120 that you spending money that you didn't even really understand. 1:42:56.040 --> 1:42:58.200 But now it's like I can look at everything and 1:42:58.280 --> 1:43:03.519 I can control it. So I want elder artists, uh, 1:43:03.920 --> 1:43:07.480 you know, younger artists, don't. Don't be confused about these algorithms. 1:43:08.360 --> 1:43:11.920 Understand these algorithms and said, you know what, continue to 1:43:12.320 --> 1:43:13.920 promote to your own fed. 1:43:15.000 --> 1:43:17.320 I agree, but I want to ask them in to 1:43:17.400 --> 1:43:19.200 that because one thing we got to be careful with 1:43:19.760 --> 1:43:22.360 is as independent as we feel in this tech age. 1:43:23.160 --> 1:43:27.360 These platforms are the new record labels and they can 1:43:27.640 --> 1:43:28.200 platform you. 1:43:29.320 --> 1:43:30.439 So make discussion. 1:43:30.640 --> 1:43:33.320 Should also understand that I don't think you're totally I'm 1:43:33.360 --> 1:43:36.840 this indie artist, like diversify these platforms that you're on, 1:43:37.040 --> 1:43:40.280 try to find the most independent ones your audience. 1:43:40.160 --> 1:43:43.439 And have a grassroots part of your campaign as well. Agree, 1:43:44.160 --> 1:43:44.439 there's a. 1:43:44.439 --> 1:43:46.639 New platform called Coda that I think is dope. 1:43:47.479 --> 1:43:50.479 So I'm just saying that, and I want to just 1:43:50.560 --> 1:43:52.280 add I think that what. 1:43:53.880 --> 1:43:57.760 Needs to happen or continue to happen, I know I 1:43:57.920 --> 1:43:58.519 actively do it. 1:43:58.600 --> 1:44:01.360 I know other people to actively do each and different people, 1:44:01.680 --> 1:44:03.519 but a lot of older artists, we got to embrace 1:44:03.600 --> 1:44:06.040 these younger artists and bring them up. And then the 1:44:06.120 --> 1:44:09.479 younger artists also, Like I spend a lot of time 1:44:09.800 --> 1:44:12.760 with younger artists and they teach me a lot of 1:44:12.800 --> 1:44:14.920 stuff I did not know about the Internet, and they're 1:44:14.920 --> 1:44:16.679 like this easy, you can do this, Miss. 1:44:16.479 --> 1:44:17.200 Easy, you can do that. 1:44:17.600 --> 1:44:19.400 And so I'm learning too, and I think it's you know, 1:44:19.479 --> 1:44:21.000 we got to take the old and the new and 1:44:21.080 --> 1:44:23.719 bring it together because that's what's gonna make us greater, 1:44:24.000 --> 1:44:26.200 you know what I mean. And because I think a 1:44:26.240 --> 1:44:29.160 lot of the ways, like our work ethic and how 1:44:29.720 --> 1:44:33.160 we came up everything, literally we want a carbon copy 1:44:33.360 --> 1:44:35.720 like that was considered whack if it was like somebody else. 1:44:36.120 --> 1:44:38.479 Just the individuality we have back then. I think we 1:44:38.560 --> 1:44:40.679 still need to embrace that, you know what I'm saying, 1:44:41.040 --> 1:44:44.360 But also understand this tech world because AI is here 1:44:44.520 --> 1:44:46.519 and it's here to stay. You gotta, you know, we 1:44:46.560 --> 1:44:48.960 gotta embrace stuff that's coming, you. 1:44:49.000 --> 1:44:49.439 Know what I mean. 1:44:49.560 --> 1:44:53.600 So cautious absolutely, but it's coming. It's coming, you know 1:44:53.640 --> 1:44:53.960 what I mean. 1:44:55.840 --> 1:44:59.000 I understand, Yeah, I mean, you know what I'm. 1:44:58.840 --> 1:44:59.639 Saying, It's coming. 1:45:00.160 --> 1:45:03.080 That's the one thing that I really would love to 1:45:03.160 --> 1:45:05.439 improve on this bridge in the gap. And what I 1:45:05.479 --> 1:45:10.640 say about bridging the gap is, you know, sometimes I 1:45:10.720 --> 1:45:12.240 listen to these young brothers and I don't mean to 1:45:12.280 --> 1:45:13.800 sound like the old dude, but fucking let me just 1:45:13.960 --> 1:45:15.040 sound like the old dude for now. 1:45:15.080 --> 1:45:15.360 Okay. 1:45:16.439 --> 1:45:18.080 They'll be like, yo, man, you know, I got the 1:45:18.200 --> 1:45:24.960 Jordan's on and I got on Patrick Ewings or they'll do. 1:45:25.439 --> 1:45:28.800 And you know the sneakers that you're wearing when it 1:45:28.880 --> 1:45:31.559 comes to basketball, you know the throwback jersey that you're 1:45:31.560 --> 1:45:33.439 wearing when it comes to basketball. But here you are 1:45:33.600 --> 1:45:36.880 making money off of hip hop and you don't know 1:45:36.920 --> 1:45:41.480 who fucking Biggie Smalls is exactly right that it is disappointing. 1:45:42.520 --> 1:45:44.320 And I don't mean to be the old homie that 1:45:44.439 --> 1:45:46.760 critique you, but I also have to be the old homie. 1:45:46.800 --> 1:45:48.320 They'll be like, yo, you're not right when you come 1:45:48.360 --> 1:45:51.320 on the block. Got to tie your shoelaces, you got 1:45:51.439 --> 1:45:54.880 to pick up your you're. 1:45:53.520 --> 1:45:55.320 Suspended this homie, you got to do that. 1:45:55.520 --> 1:45:59.080 Like, I have to be that person because it's like, damn, 1:45:59.320 --> 1:46:01.600 we're all being the fitting off for this. And you 1:46:01.720 --> 1:46:06.120 could tell me that Jordan One needs fucking right. It's 1:46:06.160 --> 1:46:08.720 that eighty seven. You could tell me that, But you 1:46:08.880 --> 1:46:12.760 can't tell me Biz Markey's record is you. 1:46:14.240 --> 1:46:14.920 You got. 1:46:17.400 --> 1:46:18.240 In the world. 1:46:21.000 --> 1:46:26.400 Of the girl. You want to take your platonic to wherever. 1:46:26.600 --> 1:46:29.040 You can't tell me you're not going to sing bis marks. 1:46:31.000 --> 1:46:35.240 Yeah on, bro, But you know what's happening in baseball, 1:46:35.400 --> 1:46:41.000 and you know Messi's watch like I can't I can't respect. 1:46:40.640 --> 1:46:43.720 And I think to that point, as a culture, we 1:46:43.840 --> 1:46:48.519 need to stop pitting generations against each other, because everybody's 1:46:48.520 --> 1:46:51.080 going to have a different greatest of all time thing 1:46:51.439 --> 1:46:54.120 based off of what era you came up in. But 1:46:54.560 --> 1:46:58.080 but I don't like the idea that it's like the 1:46:58.160 --> 1:47:01.360 older generations like, oh, that's whag, and the younger generation 1:47:01.520 --> 1:47:01.960 is like all the. 1:47:01.960 --> 1:47:04.400 Old stuff is whack. It's like, nah, it's just different. 1:47:05.000 --> 1:47:08.080 And if you educate yourself, like the idea that what 1:47:08.320 --> 1:47:12.000 happened before you isn't important anymore because it's about the now, well, 1:47:12.040 --> 1:47:14.479 you'll end up making the same mistakes that the artists 1:47:14.560 --> 1:47:17.760 before you did that we were hoping you would push 1:47:17.840 --> 1:47:20.400 it forward, and then there's gonna be another generation after 1:47:20.479 --> 1:47:21.000 you that's going. 1:47:21.000 --> 1:47:22.040 To build off of what you do. 1:47:22.520 --> 1:47:26.880 But we have gotten into this this pie, these pods 1:47:26.920 --> 1:47:29.240 where it's like the only thing that's dope is this, 1:47:30.000 --> 1:47:32.120 and that's not that's not true. And if if we're 1:47:32.240 --> 1:47:35.040 more celebratory of every it doesn't we don't have to 1:47:35.280 --> 1:47:37.160 like or everything don't have to be your cup of tea, 1:47:37.880 --> 1:47:41.160 but just the idea that anything but your stuff is 1:47:41.240 --> 1:47:43.720 whack or the older generation or newer generation. 1:47:43.439 --> 1:47:44.240 We just got to get out of that. 1:47:44.320 --> 1:47:46.200 I wish it was a podcast that gave flowers. 1:47:51.800 --> 1:47:53.360 And I have to say this, but I wish there 1:47:53.439 --> 1:47:56.959 was a real platform where it was a hip hop platform. 1:47:57.040 --> 1:47:59.120 Like what I mean by that is like, and I'm 1:47:59.120 --> 1:48:01.560 not saying we're not the platform. What I'm saying is 1:48:02.200 --> 1:48:05.080 we prefer to give flowers to people that has been here, 1:48:05.439 --> 1:48:08.040 you know, you know, ten years or more. Right, But 1:48:08.200 --> 1:48:13.080 then there's a platform where we should all co exists, right, meaning. 1:48:13.400 --> 1:48:16.920 The newest of the newest guy from fucking you know, 1:48:17.160 --> 1:48:20.759 Indiana should be connected with the newest newest guy from Compton, 1:48:21.280 --> 1:48:23.840 and you know, and vice versa. 1:48:24.479 --> 1:48:28.040 Do do what the fuck we do in hip hop? 1:48:28.080 --> 1:48:28.840 You know what I'm saying, like. 1:48:30.520 --> 1:48:33.960 We do is so beautiful, and it's like it's like 1:48:34.160 --> 1:48:36.439 that's the one thing I regret when you said I 1:48:36.520 --> 1:48:38.479 forget what you want to say like the younger generation. 1:48:38.840 --> 1:48:40.840 I always regret that because me. 1:48:41.200 --> 1:48:44.160 As a OG, sometimes I look over there and I 1:48:44.240 --> 1:48:45.080 want to say to him. 1:48:45.160 --> 1:48:47.680 Similar to like that you said the new intervw RA 1:48:47.800 --> 1:48:49.360 story there say, so I. 1:48:49.479 --> 1:48:52.360 Similar I look over there, and then I can look 1:48:52.439 --> 1:48:53.800 and I can see one of his homies, and I 1:48:53.840 --> 1:48:55.400 can feel like one of the homies, Like look at 1:48:55.400 --> 1:48:59.240 the old nigga trying to say, I've got that guy 1:49:01.000 --> 1:49:06.120 over here, my own smoking, of my own jam, none 1:49:06.120 --> 1:49:06.599 of that ship. 1:49:07.720 --> 1:49:10.000 That's me as an og being wrong. 1:49:10.400 --> 1:49:12.240 I'm supposed to be able to supersede that and say, 1:49:12.280 --> 1:49:16.519 all listen, let me introduce myself, right, young homie. Look 1:49:16.640 --> 1:49:18.800 regardless if you know who I am or not, you 1:49:18.840 --> 1:49:21.280 know what I mean? Like, I know, I met Young 1:49:21.400 --> 1:49:26.920 Doug one night, and I did the wrong thing. I 1:49:27.000 --> 1:49:30.519 walked up to Young Doug and he uses slim. Slim 1:49:30.640 --> 1:49:34.200 is my my sling. Slim is my slang since two 1:49:34.200 --> 1:49:35.760 thousand and the more you can pull it up. And 1:49:35.880 --> 1:49:37.080 I walked up to him and I was just like, 1:49:37.320 --> 1:49:39.760 what's up, Broke. He was like, oh, what's up, Broke? 1:49:39.840 --> 1:49:43.960 And I was just like, all right, I. 1:49:46.600 --> 1:49:49.840 Know it's me that was wrong though, Like I fully 1:49:49.880 --> 1:49:51.559 didn't introduced myself. 1:49:51.880 --> 1:49:53.600 I just wanted him to. 1:49:53.640 --> 1:49:55.760 Know who I was right then and there, and he did, 1:49:56.120 --> 1:49:57.360 and I was just like, you know what, stay in 1:49:57.400 --> 1:49:58.040 your own zone. 1:49:58.080 --> 1:49:59.000 But that was wrong of me. 1:49:59.600 --> 1:50:01.479 Like you know what, sometimes we can even bow down 1:50:01.560 --> 1:50:04.360 to ourselves because this is our community. And by the way, 1:50:04.880 --> 1:50:07.240 the reason why your name slime is because of me. 1:50:09.439 --> 1:50:13.080 Someone else's name you Slim, but that original. 1:50:14.280 --> 1:50:16.680 Name was was me since two thousand and one. 1:50:16.920 --> 1:50:18.479 And I could have easily said that. I didn't know 1:50:18.520 --> 1:50:20.320 how to say it, but I knew that that was 1:50:20.400 --> 1:50:23.040 the problems for us. Sometimes it's like I didn't know 1:50:23.120 --> 1:50:26.680 how to be like yo, yo home. I just want 1:50:26.720 --> 1:50:29.320 you to know you made a whole career ten years 1:50:30.760 --> 1:50:32.439 and you kind of took my ship. 1:50:34.000 --> 1:50:38.360 Laugh about it, you know what I mean. 1:50:39.080 --> 1:50:41.400 But that's the part that I wish we could improve 1:50:41.439 --> 1:50:44.560 and hip hop relations I was looking. 1:50:44.360 --> 1:50:46.439 Like that when you said that, because that happens to 1:50:46.560 --> 1:50:46.960 us a lot. 1:50:47.479 --> 1:50:47.960 We're weird. 1:50:48.520 --> 1:50:50.639 It's like I don't want to introduce myself. 1:50:50.880 --> 1:50:51.160 I did. 1:50:51.320 --> 1:50:54.400 I don't want to sometimes yeah, yeah, I'm good. I 1:50:54.479 --> 1:50:56.439 want to get your handshaken. You be like, what's something 1:50:56.720 --> 1:50:57.920 like it should just be real? 1:51:00.080 --> 1:51:04.240 Really needed it all more than that. 1:51:06.320 --> 1:51:10.080 But then you got you got you got, you got 1:51:10.120 --> 1:51:13.880 this younger generation that does know you got a Kendrick 1:51:13.960 --> 1:51:14.840 Lamar that would sit. 1:51:14.840 --> 1:51:17.800 There and be like, yo, what's up bro? You be like, 1:51:18.120 --> 1:51:20.960 oh ship you everybody. 1:51:21.000 --> 1:51:24.240 I didn't expect that from you, and you got J Coles, 1:51:24.280 --> 1:51:26.080 you got these people who will sit down. 1:51:26.560 --> 1:51:28.439 But I think you could easily say that there's artists 1:51:28.439 --> 1:51:31.960 that are culturally invested and artists that are just here 1:51:32.120 --> 1:51:32.720 for what. 1:51:33.520 --> 1:51:34.439 Let's just make this buck. 1:51:35.160 --> 1:51:38.920 And so I think my issue for for generationally going 1:51:39.160 --> 1:51:42.479 younger is that there's no problem with you not knowing something. 1:51:42.720 --> 1:51:44.920 We all don't know everything. We don't know that there's 1:51:44.920 --> 1:51:48.400 a problem with you not wanting to know. You should 1:51:48.479 --> 1:51:52.360 want to know. I know that about my thing that 1:51:52.479 --> 1:51:55.360 I do. Let me know that history will say for us. 1:51:55.479 --> 1:51:57.479 We're getting a lot of young people coming to our 1:51:57.560 --> 1:52:00.479 shows all of a sudden, All of a Sudden'm talking eighteen. 1:52:00.560 --> 1:52:03.639 You know, they weren't even born when we were. Because 1:52:03.680 --> 1:52:05.320 you know why hip hop is trying to learn. 1:52:05.400 --> 1:52:09.000 They want to learn, which is encouraging, right what I'm saying. 1:52:09.040 --> 1:52:12.320 That's beautiful, Yo, man, I had so much fun doing that. 1:52:12.479 --> 1:52:12.599 Man. 1:52:19.439 --> 1:52:26.240 But you guys are a group that people should study. 1:52:27.240 --> 1:52:32.920 People should understand definition of loyalty, people should understand the 1:52:32.960 --> 1:52:37.879 definition of respect, and people should understand the definition of unity. 1:52:38.360 --> 1:52:42.439 Facts that is not that is not common in hip hop. 1:52:43.640 --> 1:52:47.080 I've been in this motherfucker twenty five years. Like I said, 1:52:47.080 --> 1:52:53.679 I see, motherfuckers can't even survive two months, let alone 1:52:53.760 --> 1:52:57.360 two years, let alone twenty seven to thirty years. 1:52:58.000 --> 1:52:59.240 And that shit is not normal. 1:53:00.080 --> 1:53:02.240 I wanted to take the time out to respect y'all. 1:53:02.640 --> 1:53:02.880 Thanks. 1:53:03.040 --> 1:53:05.560 Tell y'all how much y'all mean to not only me, 1:53:06.400 --> 1:53:08.679 you know, not only say EFN and a drink chance 1:53:08.760 --> 1:53:11.759 it's a hip hop. Think you man, there's an example 1:53:11.800 --> 1:53:17.880 that we should all study and continue to study and 1:53:17.960 --> 1:53:22.160 continue to represent and respect because it's not a lot 1:53:22.840 --> 1:53:26.680 and the fact that y'all are one of many, but 1:53:27.120 --> 1:53:30.679 y'all are probably the first. I have to salute y'all. 1:53:30.720 --> 1:53:32.439 I want to tell you how much I respect y'all. 1:53:32.840 --> 1:53:35.280 Thanks. Tell y'all. Man, like the ship that y'all did 1:53:35.439 --> 1:53:38.280 is not normal. It's not normal. 1:53:38.400 --> 1:53:44.400 Like like all right, all right, there was a Rockefeller 1:53:44.479 --> 1:53:49.200 tree right one time, and they said Rockefeller. But then 1:53:49.240 --> 1:53:52.599 they seen every group that could be related to rocket 1:53:52.640 --> 1:53:56.000 fell word up. Do you know understand every group that 1:53:56.120 --> 1:54:03.240 if we did that same shit, every group that could 1:54:03.280 --> 1:54:06.600 be Lady, y'all, y'all would look like Johangti word up 1:54:06.760 --> 1:54:10.400 in the field, because it would look and it would 1:54:10.479 --> 1:54:14.000 keep going because there's certain groups that y'all birth that 1:54:14.120 --> 1:54:18.000 birth to other groups, so that ship keeps going. 1:54:19.080 --> 1:54:22.160 So in casey I didn't know it, I was just saying. 1:54:34.880 --> 1:54:43.440 We made it to drinks. But it always has to be. 1:54:43.600 --> 1:54:45.800 We always have to validate each other sometimes. 1:54:46.280 --> 1:54:50.040 Hell yeah, but it's well warranted. Man, we were waiting 1:54:50.080 --> 1:54:51.680 for this. Okay, one last question. 1:54:52.360 --> 1:54:57.920 Okay, one last question. Because you know hip hop, we 1:54:58.000 --> 1:55:01.360 always have these crazy names. How you get the name speech? 1:55:03.600 --> 1:55:05.640 I used to be called DJ and you know, you know, 1:55:06.880 --> 1:55:09.040 and they used to call me DJ Peach because in 1:55:09.120 --> 1:55:11.960 my head and how big it is, so period a 1:55:12.040 --> 1:55:16.080 name peach. Of course, when I started rhyming, I didn't 1:55:16.080 --> 1:55:16.720 want to be known. 1:55:16.600 --> 1:55:17.120 As m C. 1:55:17.240 --> 1:55:21.960 Peach. That's like, so why I put an in front 1:55:21.960 --> 1:55:22.120 of it? 1:55:23.240 --> 1:55:23.520 That was it? 1:55:23.720 --> 1:55:25.800 Speech? It just made sense. I just started rhyming. I 1:55:25.880 --> 1:55:27.240 was like, this is this is it? 1:55:27.600 --> 1:55:29.680 This makes sense? Yeah? 1:55:29.760 --> 1:55:31.600 I had something to say, So that was it. 1:55:32.200 --> 1:55:45.840 Please take a look at the record because it's dope, 1:55:45.960 --> 1:55:49.440 the actual take a look at But he's. 1:55:49.320 --> 1:55:52.560 Very he's very about this one. Yeah, about the old 1:55:52.560 --> 1:55:57.240 school one we had we had on head and he 1:55:57.320 --> 1:55:58.880 gives one of the old. 1:55:58.760 --> 1:56:13.480 Records, like that record, right, So this this, this is 1:56:13.760 --> 1:56:14.800 the care, the care. 1:56:14.880 --> 1:56:15.040 Yeah. 1:56:21.320 --> 1:56:23.360 Drink Champs is a drink Champs ll C. 1:56:23.560 --> 1:56:27.040 Production hosts and executive producers n O r E and 1:56:27.240 --> 1:56:28.280 d j e f f N. 1:56:29.440 --> 1:56:30.520 Listen to drink Champs on. 1:56:30.560 --> 1:56:35.520 Apple Podcast, Amazon Music, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. 1:56:36.640 --> 1:56:39.040 Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs 1:56:39.120 --> 1:56:41.480 hosted by yours truly, d j e f N and 1:56:41.680 --> 1:56:43.720 n O r E. 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